Datamine Discussions

[leaden crescent]

i mean

pilgrim vs no pilgrim

[white pulsar]

very fair I mean

[green shadow]

She is good alone

Not best

[native narwhal]

Wait is she broken?

[white pulsar]

and it should be like that

[sly prawn]

@velvet berry the pinned message has the same skill description twice

[white pulsar]

Alice is not a good pattern

[velvet berry]

hehe

wait

[white pulsar]

Privaty is, because if you can afford 3 more times resource than normal

[green shadow]

Number wise, she is

[white pulsar]

you can enjoy your sweet fruit

[leaden crescent]

if you fully invest in her team yes

[green shadow]

S1 triggers much more often than SAnis

[native narwhal]

[thorn seal]

Aside from pilgrim buff its still worth cause she doesnt compete for a slot in any other meta comp

[leaden crescent]

really?

[green shadow]

2 shots per trigger with Leona in FB, otherwise 3 shots

But remember ANY FULL BURST counts

Not only hers

[inland thicket]

so leona gonna get better place in tier list

[white pulsar]

nah

[leaden crescent]

ye

[inland thicket]

[white pulsar]

we will readjust her

[velvet berry]

fixed

[white pulsar]

once Priv kit is confirmed

it's all theory for now

but yeah, Priv can be your Elysion carry

just not as strong as she will be with Leona Tove

in fact, she's pretty much urghh without them

Guillo will slap the shit out of her

Miranda, Helm

lmao

[inland thicket]

lv 10 right ?

[white pulsar]

I'm dead

[inland thicket]

[white pulsar]

lv 10 yes

[leaden crescent]

its level 1

rn

[green shadow]

Will SAnis now be joining Tove Leona

Like fr

[white pulsar]

nah

[green shadow]

Despite ammo boost

Lmao

[leaden crescent]

no

I think

its better

[white pulsar]

I don't think 50% atk is that MUCH

[leaden crescent]

to keep it separate

[white pulsar]

to gimp your Sanis

[leaden crescent]

final shot and SG team

[sly prawn]

keep her in last bullet with doro

[green shadow]

SAnis also gains tons of ATK

And crit buffs

[velvet berry]

we still need survivability

in the team

bruh

[white pulsar]

that's why I suggest running NO CDR

[velvet berry]

who gonna heal + who gonna cdr

[velvet berry]

oh?

[sly prawn]

right?

[white pulsar]

you will lose 2 rotations at max

[leaden crescent]

tove leona privalter sugar rapunzel

[native narwhal]

Snake is right, not all is pium pium

[sly prawn]

privalter without cdr (full burst uptime)

it's joever

[velvet berry]

thats a lot tho

[green shadow]

Use CDR pls just wait Ade

[vapid igloo]

Stay strong, they'll release SG Crown soon

[green shadow]

May she be CDR AR B2 with heals

[sly prawn]

let's lose full bursts

[green shadow]

[leaden crescent]

just

run bastion

[native narwhal]

Doro, Leona, sanis, maid privaty, privaty?

[leaden crescent]

15 ammo with bastion should survive full burst down time

[pine vigil]

[velvet berry]

passiv cdr with passive heals

[native narwhal]

[green shadow]

Not really, if no CDR and with Tove atk spd

[leaden crescent]

oh right tove att speed

[velvet berry]

wait youre yellow? not brown

why no protocol

[pine vigil]

Don't ask me

[white pulsar]

also remember

[green shadow]

Ade feels like CDR

[white pulsar]

Mast ~ Leona

except Leona Hit Rate is so lethal on Priv

[green shadow]

No?

[fossil gazelle]

red hood, scarletbs, alice, they all have high burst scaling growth

[velvet berry]

why is the hitrate lethal

[green shadow]

Leona gives pellet boost

[white pulsar]

[green shadow]

Ure actually trolling

[white pulsar]

oh true, was referring to crit boost

[green shadow]

ITS PELLET BOOST MF

[near fractal]

I think Tove Leona Privaty will be an interesting team

[green shadow]

Ade is NOT attacker for sure

Thats one thing

Lol

[white pulsar]

of course they are

look at those triple resouce cost

if they are not interesting, you are bricked

like

half year

[velvet berry]

ade is support, we alrdy know that

[green shadow]

Its prolly the most expensive team

[white pulsar]

even higher than Snow team

[green shadow]

Snow is dead

[zenith goblet]

need ~3 months worth of mats for them right?

[near fractal]

I think there’s 1 10/10/10 Tove in SEA and 2 or 3 in JP

[green shadow]

3? U joking?

[native narwhal]

Noooo snow

My wife

[near fractal]

[white pulsar]

3?

sounds cute

[native narwhal]

[green shadow]

Sounds like a joke

[white pulsar]

you need 2 months to max 1 unit

3?

that's half a year

[zenith goblet]

fk it, im not gonna use sg meta

[velvet berry]

man

[velvet berry]

fuck sg

[zenith goblet]

we will has duo pilgrim banner before i can make them work

[green shadow]

Tove needs 9 4 10 at least. This PrivM needs 10 10 10, and then Leona needs Skill 2 leveled up for 5 pellet boost, then Sugar/Guilty also.

[signal cobalt]

just buy packs

[velvet berry]

$$$

ez

[near fractal]

With new simu challenge reward might be a little bit faster

[green shadow]

Just skip Moran

[velvet berry]

ok giselle

[green shadow]

[native narwhal]

Imagine buying packs hahahsha

Never gonna happens

[zenith goblet]

priv alone for pvp sound good, just from her burst

[green shadow]

No

Well yes

With crit

[velvet berry]

what if her burst scales to 1k

Mf moran + priv must pull for pvp

[green shadow]

Usually scaling is 169%

[zenith goblet]

replace priv with privalt, she can nuke

[green shadow]

So probably 700%

[velvet berry]

||hehe 69||

[velvet berry]

thats still busted, the fuck

[green shadow]

No atk buff

[whole mountain]

I doubt anyone would reach more than the 999% aoe scaling of Harran but yeah

[green shadow]

Unless atk dmg counts

And crit only happens 15%

[velvet berry]

ohok, all her buffs are during burst

[green shadow]

Ure not gonan fucking run Mast to get that nasty 40% crit rate

And gambling

[dire dome]

Uh...

[velvet berry]

regardless, priv is dead for pvp defence cuz sg sucks in defence

[dire dome]

Welp

[zenith goblet]

sanis also sg

[white pulsar]

heh

I forgot to include her burst dmg

but it;s small anyway

[velvet berry]

and shes dead for defence

[green shadow]

If u use SAnis

[velvet berry]

[green shadow]

Does her buff or Priv burst take place first

[velvet berry]

depends on positioning

[dire dome]

We got Ade's skillset yet?

[green shadow]

I doubt thats the case in pvp

[velvet berry]

it is the case

buff applies left to right

in order

left ones apply it before

[whole mountain]

Her attack buff if it lasts for 5 seconds at the very least is enough for it to last for the entire game after the first full burst

I think (how fast can you fill a gauge after full burst honestly)

Wait no nvm it has to be 10 seconds at best in minimal cdr

[pastel lily]

not yet

[green shadow]

No

Burst dmg takes place first

Then full burst buffs

[white pulsar]

as far as I recall

burst effect > skill effect

that's why SBS can eat carrot

during her own burst

[native narwhal]

Yep

[white pulsar]

or Sanis has Maxwell buff

[velvet berry]

bruh that ofc

[dire dome]

🤔

[green shadow]

Finally my 9 4 10 Tove

Is useful

IM NO LONGER SAD

[dire dome]

Cope

Wait

[timid cloud]

So, Bastion Cube on her?

[dire dome]

Kisenix whale after all

[zenith goblet]

normal sg and clip sg has same pellets right?

[dire dome]

[green shadow]

Chime B2 CDR HEALER

[timid cloud]

[green shadow]

I think rn

Just run

Tove Dolla Leona Helm PrivM

SOLO BITCHES

[white pulsar]

true

just like Snow

[dire dome]

[white pulsar]

or Quiry

as healer+burst gen

[timid cloud]

[green shadow]

No need

Helm/Dolla with Tove is enuf

Tove gives max ammo

+6

12 shots of SR

Is enough

[native narwhal]

[dire dome]

U invested in Tove only for Coop didn't u?

[green shadow]

No

[vale plume]

So Tove is better for Maid Priv, rather than Leona?

[green shadow]

No

U need both

[vale plume]

Fuck me, don't tell me Ade gonna be Healer/CDR

I don't pull for both

[green shadow]

Skip Moran

[dire dome]

Shelm pretty ok

[inland thicket]

hmm

[green shadow]

Hear me out

SW ded

[inland thicket]

will privaty bond story be like helm summer

[dire dome]

[inland thicket]

or lud winter

[dire dome]

This Kisenix

[inland thicket]

[green shadow]

• Lit Bun Alice SBS
• Vol Tiga RedHood XLud
• Doro Marci Max Priv Mod
• Sakura Moran Mast SAnis Guillo
• Tove Leona ??? ??? PrivM

Scarlet SW both ded

[velvet berry]

SAnis guillo over sw team?

ok

[native narwhal]

[zenith goblet]

50 pulls now, is it a sign to stop?

[green shadow]

You forgot how Noise Mast Saku 2B Guillo was used by Top 1

Not Top 1

But that team is outclassed by that team

?

[thorn seal]

Yes

[elder canyon]

If you stop it's a waste of pulls

[thorn seal]

No point spending everything on leona if you wont be able to pull privalter

[elder canyon]

why even pull if you are not going to commit

[velvet berry]

which solo raid

[vale plume]

Tove Leona ??? ??? PrivM | I bet one of them is Ade, maybe healer or CDR B3?

[zenith goblet]

whitesmith

[velvet berry]

mtfk that was 6 solo raids ago

we got 8 meta nikkes after that

[near fractal]

Scar still useful in Hard 21

[velvet berry]

bro the rate of meta is insane rn

[green shadow]

U see how Leona is good for SAnis

[velvet berry]

PvP nikke

[green shadow]

Well Mast is as good as Leona for SAnis

[zenith goblet]

i didnt said they still good now

[native narwhal]

Imagine use Scarlet in hard

[velvet berry]

kisenix did, that mtfk was directed towards him

I think priv just places in t5

[green shadow]

There are no T1 T5 now

Mod was T4 lmao

[velvet berry]

there are cuz theyre defined by buffers

[green shadow]

Its dumb to say it that way

[zenith goblet]

39% cp dif, she still work

[near fractal]

She’s a must if you want to Push past Hard 21 with low sync lv

[native narwhal]

[green shadow]

Yeah buffer wise T1 Bun, T2 Tiga, T3 Doro

[velvet berry]

bunnies t1
tia naga t2
doro priv t3
dolla/shelm t4
shelm/sakura t5

[green shadow]

But some people say T1 is Tiga

Yeah PrivM is T4

[velvet berry]

if boss has pierce, dolla goes to sw, otherwise priv?

[thorn seal]

Is scarlet actually pushed out of raid meta?

[velvet berry]

probably

[native narwhal]

Resurrection 2b when?

[green shadow]

Nah SW shafted soon

[thorn seal]

Cant believe i finally mlb scarlet only for her to become obsolete

[zenith goblet]

depend on how strong dor marci sanis 2 priv

[native narwhal]

Yep

[velvet berry]

how do u shaft a pierce unit

make sense pls

[green shadow]

By not introducing pierce boss

[velvet berry]

more pierce than no pierce in nikke

[steady quail]

are we drifting off topic real hard in the place that suppose to be in Eden ?

[vale plume]

So we can assume that the next Solo Raid bos won't have any kind of core

[green shadow]

Well next boss is Land Eater

[velvet berry]

we're talking about priv placement

its fine

[vale plume]

is this confirmed?

[green shadow]

No

[whole mountain]

[green shadow]

But PrivM is electric

[velvet berry]

good to assume tho

[green shadow]

So most likely land eater

[vale plume]

Which other boss that has no core?

and big

[green shadow]

PrivM also has wipe

Boss throws missiles

[crimson void]

Anyone who talks about #datamine outside from this thread will be muted on the spot.

[zenith goblet]

why ppl keep want to use privalt with tove leona, when she can replace scar in marci sanis team

[green shadow]

Wdym

[vale plume]

I'm thinking the same way, for people who doesn't pull for Leona and Tove

Or should I pull for Leona now, since her banner is still on

[green shadow]

Doro SAnis is actually terrible

[dire dome]

looks like Ark strikes again

[wise haven]

yay, i got enough mileage for privaty (i think)

[agile heron]

Wtf is that giant cd buff

[thorn seal]

Because tove leona makes her even stronger

[agile heron]

[crimson void]

some people just got muted for spreading the datamines in public channels on this server.

[green shadow]

Doro Marci SAnis is full buff on Scarlet

[zenith goblet]

it only work when we has cdr and healer...

[green shadow]

SAnis doesnt get anything there

[wise haven]

she's really the dealbreaker for SG team heh

[native narwhal]

Is maid privsty electric code?

[crimson void]

told them to keep the datamines in here but they're just too dumb to understand.

[wise haven]

along with sugar

[green shadow]

Scarlet is the core unit there

Why tf are u removing Scar

[dire dome]

shes getting down the drain

Bscar better now

[covert venture]

Is the kit all we know atm? Anything on if the banner is limited since alter?

[native narwhal]

Scarletless people use biscuit+poli

And get same DMG

[green shadow]

Also burst gen doko

[zenith goblet]

depend on how strong privalt is, maybe she can outdmg scar

[agile heron]

[green shadow]

No, Scar deals more

[agile heron]

[native narwhal]

[green shadow]

Otherwise they would use Biscu Poli

But they didnt

[zenith goblet]

isnt ppl use poli biscuit in ultra, and all bosses with parts?

[green shadow]

The problem is not that

The problem is Leona S2 is needed

For PrivM

And she needs crit team

Tove and Leona give tons of crit

Current best team is

Tove Leona Marciana Sugar PrivM

[dire dome]

wut

Marciana like lesser ammo

[pastel lily]

current best team still trash

[dire dome]

u smoking herbs?

[whole mountain]

Maid Priv... Is the one no need to B3 on her

Can try this team build when she available

Tove/Leona/Sugar/Drake/Maid Priv

[green shadow]

She likes but she no needs

[thorn seal]

Tove leona just has too much synergy with privm to skip on

[whole mountain]

SRaid New Team Build Btw

SG team, FULL DPS

no Healing

Man, no shot I gotta build like 4-5 units now.....

[green shadow]

But yeah most likely no heal

Unless Ade

[dire dome]

u just have to go frame by frame with that SG comp

[green shadow]

Ade sounds like healer

No cap

Its sus

LOL

[dire dome]

bcuz she is

[green shadow]

Very sus

[dire dome]

[whole mountain]

WE NEED another Healer SG but NOT with Last Bullet Effect one

[green shadow]

I think Ade is the last puece

[dire dome]

[green shadow]

Nah Ade is AR Healer CDR

Itsok

[pastel lily]

so u prefer no cdr?

[velvet berry]

Where do u get this copium from dawg

[whole mountain]

CDR??? How you can confirm the status of Ade?

[green shadow]

U dont trust me again?

[thorn seal]

Cdr is overrated

[green shadow]

What did I say about B3 SG

[dire dome]

he want to release his Tove

[whole mountain]

yep

[dire dome]

that i could understand

[velvet berry]

We still need a better B2

Cdr needed

[green shadow]

Thats what I said

B2 CDR

Im not stuttering

B2 CDR HEALER = ADE

[dire dome]

alt Pepper

[covert venture]

Ade will have CDR and healing...but only if another Maid For You member is present

[velvet berry]

Bro ade is prolly not cdr

[pastel lily]

[green shadow]

She is

Dont trust me?

[dire dome]

high quality copium u got there

may i have some as well?

dont get me wrong

[green shadow]

People said that to me 1 week ago for saying Leona is shit and that there will be a B3 SG synergizing with her soon

And they're eating their own words

[dire dome]

i want SG to be viable

[green shadow]

I dont fucking care

Listen to what pleases ur ears

[whole mountain]

🥱 shilling SG meta

[dire dome]

[whole mountain]

im still leonaless and i have no luck so its deadge for me

[green shadow]

People only want things that please their ears

Causing them to be blind

[dire dome]

no one is exempted frrom that

[velvet berry]

Man near SBS DPS is nuts

[thorny sleet]

@velvet berry is only new thing priv kit

[dire dome]

ya

try c7 her

[halcyon sequoia]

that would technically make them deaf not blind though

[velvet berry]

Element for ade too

[green shadow]

Soon Ade too

[velvet berry]

All is pinned

[green shadow]

Support AR Wind unknown kit

[thorny sleet]

How do i get to pins on mobile

[dire dome]

SBS doing billions like walk in the park

[velvet berry]

#1049651485086060584 message

@thorny sleet

[green shadow]

Ade and Priv should be in 1 event btw

Not separated

Because Priv's patch shud come with solo raid

[velvet berry]

It will be ade first week and then priv from 2nd week

[dire dome]

if only i still had my battle report

[signal cobalt]

i am doubtful she's limited

[green shadow]

Read desc

[dire dome]

sadly by the looks of it

[signal cobalt]

where

[thorny sleet]

Prob electric weak sr

[velvet berry]

Only one non limited alt
Scarlet

[dire dome]

she is

[thorny sleet]

[green shadow]

Priv joins maid for you because of some shit. Ade is also from maid for tou.

[thorn seal]

Click on tread name at the top of screen and then config

[green shadow]

It screams same event

[thorn seal]

Discord mobile UI so dumb

[signal cobalt]

that doesn't mean its limited tho

assuming ade is not limited she should be not limtied as well

[green shadow]

Shes limited for sure

[midnight folio]

i wonder how maid Privaty will improve my Sugar SG team

[green shadow]

Its a 3 week event

[velvet berry]

Bro it's same event for sure, valentine's is 2 units

Doesn't mean she's limited/non limited

We need to wait for when stepleaker kun reveals her banner

[signal cobalt]

there wouldn't be one limited and the other not

[velvet berry]

This time, banners DO matter
Unlike Leona's

[green shadow]

Ok Ade is free SSR

Idk maybe both are limited

[covert venture]

There's a first for everything, so it's not impossible, especially if she's meta

[signal cobalt]

im c7ing either way so

😸

[thorn seal]

Im so glad i saved those free tickets we got on new years and just got sbs with mileage

[wise haven]

ofc it's 2 banner, 2 week event

[thorn seal]

If privalter is limited i can get her easy, if not i just continue saving

[wise haven]

i hope privaty on 2nd week tho

that means her banner still last even after her event ends

[dire dome]

@velvet berry

[thorn seal]

Also with privM we have 4 meta electric dps

3 if you dont count guillo

[white pulsar]

midlet is meta now?

[brazen wolf]

If only we had electric specialized supports

[thorn seal]

She's meta to me

[wise haven]

she's called sanis
but i don't blame you, sometimes people forgot she support electric units

[thorny sleet]

Priv kit looks interesting

[leaden crescent]

imma pray that I get leona with my 50-60 standard tickets before privalter is gone

in a mold works too

if ade is cdr healer im actually offing myself

im thinking the missing piece of gonna be nayuta for half anni tho

[thorn seal]

Im saving my body labels to get hq molds whenever i do a bunch of pulls again

Think i got enough for like 8 hq molds rn

[leaden crescent]

i wish

[sly prawn]

saving my tickets for pralter and simply adding leona to wishlist

[leaden crescent]

the best plan

its not like you’ll have the team raised and ready for privalter to cruise anyways

and no one else really should either

[native narwhal]

Core max?

[leaden crescent]

so it’ll be fine

[native narwhal]

Or just mlb?

[leaden crescent]

[covert venture]

Leona may end up great for PrivM, but you have to have a PrivM for that to matter, after all

[thorn seal]

Single copy

[leaden crescent]

i dont think core maxing seasonals is a good idea

[sly prawn]

idk, although she waifu i don't like SG

[jovial forge]

it's gonna be CDR or healing

[leaden crescent]

true

but also like

who tf has

mays

mats

to

[sly prawn]

CDR and Healing

[leaden crescent]

even assuming tove investment

10/10/10 and 4/10/7 a character rn

privalter gonna be a long game unit

so it doesnt matter if you have her team rn

[sick lily]

omg... they reaaaaalllyyy want you to get leona and tove huh

anw uuuh instant mlb

[sly prawn]

waiting for numbers. unless high numbers leona still skip

[sick lily]

basically we wait till release to see if we should have leona on the wishlist at all
i hope we get more mats for the event but as of rn.
does the datamine img show what code type she is. I can't tell if it doesn't say or if i'm just blind

[sly prawn]

check pin

apparently electric

and ade wind

[whole mountain]

UOOOOOOOOOOOOOGH HARD SEGGS PRIVATY

[thorn seal]

Accordong to gatrix math privm with tove leona on same level as sbs

[sly prawn]

still won't invest

too many other units to level

[thorn seal]

I wont invest cause i got no mats we are not the same

[covert venture]

3x Nikkes to the power level of one

SBS 2 stronk

[thorn seal]

Pilgrim diff

[leaden crescent]

I mean yeah

but

its already with 3 nikkes invested

liter blanc noir

its just that most people already have them invested that its considered 1 v 3

[covert venture]

Three units that work with anyone

[leaden crescent]

yeah ik

[white pulsar]

how's the cooking everyone?

[covert venture]

Well, mostly everyone

[white pulsar]

Priv strong?

[leaden crescent]

im in school so I cant cook math wise

[covert venture]

We don't have level 10 numbers, right?

[thorn seal]

Nope

[covert venture]

Also, is that math comparing her to SBS in a team assuming no cdr for 3 minutes?

or is one of CDR units in there?

[thorn seal]

Idk gatrix did the math go ask him

[white pulsar]

who

me?

[covert venture]

[sick lily]

LETS GOOOO
SUMMER ANIS GAMING

[white pulsar]

oh it's me

[sick lily]

[white pulsar]

lacking cdr = 10% dmg loss

cdr = SBS on Tia Naga with 0 part to splash (the Material H core)

without splash

[covert venture]

So if Ade does end up CDR + healing, we have a crazy team made

[thorn seal]

Yes

[covert venture]

Is it finally time for Sugar to rise?

[thorn seal]

Also yes

[white pulsar]

with Bunnies team, she can't even put a fight against Privaty

[thorn seal]

No one else has synergy with tove leona like sugar and privm

[white pulsar]

there's

[covert venture]

technically Noir does

[white pulsar]

Guilty

[covert venture]

And yeah, Guilty

[white pulsar]

and Drake too

[thorn seal]

But they're not as good smh

[white pulsar]

SG team is special

because each and everyone of them deal dmg

[thorn seal]

Sugar the sg goat

[white pulsar]

they are half dps too

except Tove

[covert venture]

Drake > Sakura in a team where we don't need healing, I guess, probably (thinking of Grave Digger)

[white pulsar]

🚮

[covert venture]

since Drake would offer more DPS than Sakura's CDR would provide

[thorn seal]

Second best with privm

[white pulsar]

anyway my cooking for Priv is

4x hit rate = 58% HR

Leona = 20% HR

that's total 78% HR

she's basically AR during burst

and SMG during non burst

[covert venture]

Also, are you using level 1 numbers or guessing level 10 ones?

[white pulsar]

lv 10 assuming

x1.69

[thorn seal]

Doesnt leona also have the effective range buff on top of hit rate buff?

[covert venture]

[white pulsar]

look at this meme

10% dmg up

imagine a 50% dmg up

because she only buffs herself

it should be big right?

[covert venture]

That's why I'm thinking of Solo Raid Grave Digger.

My biggest frustration with shotgun comps is that destroying circles and dealing damage is annoying when it gets pushed too far back

(and the drill missiles)

[white pulsar]

btw you should manually reload her before burst

[covert venture]

should be manually using her for the "view" anyway

[white pulsar]

9 base + 6 tove = 15 + her S2 reload 3 ammo every 4 shot

her AS during burst is max 2.1 aka 21 shots over 10s

aka she's pretty much full ammo during burst

[thorn seal]

Assuming bastion?

[white pulsar]

and her reload should be very fast with Resi + her own S2

no

resi

50% reload speed = 1.2s reload only

while her reload buff is 2s

so even when burst ends, you can still enjoy your free 15 ammo. Again

hence I don't put any ammo on her

the craziest part is

in my imaginary

she's top 2 with just Leona + Tove

yeah, no SAnis

no buffers

no CDR

as long as you keep her spread small, she pays off very hard

[thorn seal]

Shotgun comp copers eating good right now

[white pulsar]

most of them over invested in Sugar

so I don't know

[thorn seal]

[white pulsar]

Sugar peak = 60~70% of Priv

by peak, I mean 100% core shot, 3.0 AS

and pretty much infinite ammo during her own burst

[thorn seal]

70% of top 2 unit is pretty good, especially since no other dps b3 will be at their peak on tove leona anyways

[white pulsar]

70% of top 2 means she's as same as Midlet

damn, remember the time we said something near Scar = gud enough?

now if thing is not near Mod, it can be considered trash

and even Mod barely holds her position in top 2 teams now

[thorn seal]

I remember when scarlet was the best dps in the game

[rose spruce]

Did I just wake up to catgorl privaty

[white pulsar]

nah

[covert venture]

Nekomaid

[white pulsar]

keep sleeping

[thorn seal]

Catgirl maid

[white pulsar]

also she will have a very hard time with me on released

💢

[rose spruce]

Nah what the fuck she got kicked from triangle or smthng

[thorn seal]

I finally got mlb scarlet and now she's obsolete

[white pulsar]

at least she's strong in PVP

[covert venture]

Alexa, play "Neko Mimi Mode"

[rose spruce]

"x times using Pellets", does it mean if she got 10 pellets and it all hit, it should be counted as 10 times hit?

[covert venture]

Yes

[white pulsar]

yep

[covert venture]

She's S Anis, but instead of last hits, she wants multi-hits

[white pulsar]

it just

[rose spruce]

They just trying to make us pull for Leona

[covert venture]

S1 is her main damage source, while her gun is just the activation for it

[white pulsar]

happens to have a Nikke

that increases pellets

[covert venture]

Shift Up fixing SGs by giving overloaded damage skills

[white pulsar]

not really, her S1 contributes 30% dmg only

[covert venture]

[white pulsar]

don't sweat it too much

[covert venture]

Really?

[white pulsar]

her own source dmg is actually her shot

[covert venture]

[white pulsar]

with lots of hit rate

that's what SG should do

SHOOT

wtf Anis is doing?

[covert venture]

although we don't know her ATK ratio yet

[white pulsar]

shoot air and her S2 deals dmg?

ah yeah, I use Sugar modifier on her

just imagine

during Anis burst, her S2 is indeed ~ her auto

but outside burst

which is 2/3 of the time

her S2 = 1/5 her auto

in a sense, you will start thinking, her S2 is actually not that impactful

but don't put ammo on her. My Math said don't fucking do that

[rose spruce]

At this point I am just hoping for Elysion to have a good unit

[white pulsar]

they have

they just don't go well together

Guillotine is insanely strong

but pairing with Elysion's support?

[knotty minnow]

I hope

Triangle is a toxic group lmao

[rose spruce]

Nah I dunno about guillotine, I benched her since there are more viable option

[white pulsar]

I expect brutal seggs with Privaty

we had our hand on Yulha

soon Priv

then Admi

[knotty minnow]

Learned from 2b

Thats always the killer

[rose spruce]

I am feeling like doing violence today and I can just ping my dad

[knotty minnow]

Ade + privalter is feb event?

Is this why they moved tia naga lol

[leaden crescent]

you didnt factor sugar’s max ammo increase

[covert venture]

[knotty minnow]

Tia naga event comes off as a valentines event ngl to you

[leaden crescent]

its stupid high even at 5

[covert venture]

I guess my brain is too Japanese, but nothing about Tia/Naga event felt like Valentine's to me.

Just reminded me of Gal Gun

[knotty minnow]

Pretty sure thats gonna be priv is it not

All these skills are level 1

[leaden crescent]

privM is gonna be great problem is she needs her sig supports

[rose spruce]

We can only hope

[knotty minnow]

Ah yeah i just figured the event got repurposed but maybe not

[leaden crescent]

and anything in elysion doesnt come close

[covert venture]

I assumed Ade would show up this year for Valentine's as soon as we didn't get her last year

Privaty was a pleasant surprise tho

[rose spruce]

The halloween does not feel like halloween to me either. Summer event has more horror aspect than acpu freeze

[knotty minnow]

Hopefully ade cooks as a support or devs are trolling

[covert venture]

Halloween is a Western thing in the first place

[knotty minnow]

We def need more decent supports to make a lot of recent units work.

[covert venture]

Japan barely acknowledges it, at least

[leaden crescent]

we have good supports but the issue is we need good supports who can heal now

[knotty minnow]

That's unfortunate

Halloween is def a very fun holiday

[leaden crescent]

cause SR bosses just destroy you otherwise

[covert venture]

And yeah, even if PrivM is much weaker without Tove/Leona, I bet she still outclasses most of Elysion (for tower)

[thorn seal]

With a 6 ammo base thats 4 extra ammo

Its really good but not crazy

As the high number might suggest

[rose spruce]

But I guess Priv still gonna kick ass when bosses like grave digger appears in Raid

[leaden crescent]

why do people keep assuming 6 ammo

NORMAL SG BASE IS 9

[whole mountain]

Source

[leaden crescent]

[covert venture]

Yeah, when did SGs get sniper ammo counts? xD

[leaden crescent]

noir hello

like I understand but like

bro

its one unit

[thorn seal]

Im just parroting what was said before

[leaden crescent]

and theres still other sgs that get used

especially in pvp

but anyways

[leaden crescent]

yeah its not only towards you

but like

noir?? naga??

[autumn plover]

Time to clap those privacheeks

[thorn seal]

As if i wasnt already doing that

[covert venture]

No one manuals them

both my Noir and Naga have 20+ ammo, so I honestly forgot what their base amount was, but I forgot that S Anis is weird with 5

[whole mountain]

Sanis has 5

Rest 9

[covert venture]

Er yeah

[sour inlet]

Ok that privaty might empty my wallet

I ain't gonna lie, Devs are cooking some shit that I've never seen before

[covert venture]

I don't even care about the kit. I'll pull for the design alone

[sour inlet]

[harsh bison]

That skirt is short

Expecting premium physics befitting Privaty

[novel moon]

unless they nerf the physics like they did on that summer pepper skin. its a buff and a nerf at the same time.

[covert venture]

For me who has the physics turned off, I'm indifferent.

[brazen wolf]

In before big ass ribbon covering the view

[rose spruce]

Exactly

Who doesn't want a nekomaid

[thorn seal]

2024 is gonna be a good year for nikke fr fr

[rose spruce]

I want a pet anyway

[rose spruce]

2023 is already good with those many rewards they gave

[thorn seal]

According to dev stream they're cooking even better for 2024

[autumn plover]

is leona a must have for leaked priv ?

[novel moon]

considering shes the only pellet buffer and Mpriv is a pellet user. id say its pretty obv

[thorn seal]

For optimal use yes

[sour inlet]

Nah but did they seriously just release shotgun team back to back without letting us save some gems

Wtf

[thorn seal]

Leona is the best b2 for privM

[novel moon]

still isnt going to save SG

[sour inlet]

I take this back

I'm fucking doomed

[novel moon]

priv alt is just the bait before the new pilgrim SG

[sour inlet]

I don't have piss girl and Leona

[autumn plover]

then, im thinking about pulling for leona

[novel moon]

i threw 20 at her this morning upon seeing priv alt. its better to have and end up not using, then to not have and them being busted and you missing out.

[covert venture]

Even better

They tweeted a notice on Leona's mechanic to make us think she was bad

[novel moon]

since ade is standard is easy skip and worry later type of mood

[covert venture]

then release a unit that directly benefits from it

[sour inlet]

Nah but that's fucked up man

[autumn plover]

im skipping both moran and ade, i dont like maids but i like priv so gotta pull

[green shadow]

Btw XMica can refresh Tove

[sour inlet]

I know crown is coming, but you can't just release a hot af tsundere maid priv and 2 shotgun buffers before and think it's okay

[autumn plover]

good to know, i'll pull xmica on 2024 christmas

[covert venture]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-meme-yeah-boy-gif-19319988

[autumn plover]

what would be the team for maid priv on challenge raid btw ?

[sour inlet]

I skipped both tove and Leona because I knew they wouldn't release a good shotgun DPS anytime soon

[novel moon]

and after them is a collab

[sour inlet]

If it isn't Lycoris recoil then I ain't pulling

[native narwhal]

Gatrix DPS list when?

Wanna see cat privaty Vs mod/Rh/alice

[covert venture]

atm looks like Tove/Leona/PrivM/Sugar/healer

[native narwhal]

[green shadow]

Wait for Ade

[brazen wolf]

Who would be the third character? I haven't watched it yet

[covert venture]

but yeah, Ade is a black box

[green shadow]

There is a chance she is the CDR we needed

[sour inlet]

Why does it need 3 ?

[autumn plover]

imma turbo skip ade

[green shadow]

If she is CDR

U cant skip her

LOL

[brazen wolf]

Cause the previous collabs were 2 SSR and a free SR

[covert venture]

Three possibilities

[green shadow]

Tove team is the most mega expensive

[autumn plover]

of course i can wdym

[green shadow]

You either have everything

Or u dont pull everything

[novel moon]

you can skip any standard unit wdym

[green shadow]

Thats SG team

[autumn plover]

you either win or lose

[sour inlet]

There's many contenders

[covert venture]

All pretty much guaranteed to be the SR

[sour inlet]

It's the Loli for sure

[covert venture]

[covert venture]

But yeah, gotta wait faster for Ade

cuz she could change everything potentially

[native narwhal]

So, we just need Ade CDR and the game is done?

[covert venture]

Ade CDR + Healing

[native narwhal]

Cdr+heal ok

[autumn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-boar-emoji-mindblown-mind-blown-slideshow-meme-gif-26390794

[native narwhal]

If is not?

[covert venture]

Rather, the healing is more important, actually

[native narwhal]

GG wp?

[covert venture]

Lack of CDR is a minor DPS loss

[autumn plover]

what if ade is rossana 2.0 ?

[brazen wolf]

We riot

[covert venture]

Then probably slap S Mary into the team

[native narwhal]

In the scale of DPS, where is privaty alt?

[covert venture]

Equal to JK SBS if Tove & Leona are invested

[sour inlet]

If ade is Rosanna I will laugh at every shotgun unit puller

[native narwhal]

So you need invest in 3 chars

[sour inlet]

[covert venture]

Superior to bunnies SBS

(assuming that the scaling is as Gastix is predicting)

[native narwhal]

Bunnies sbs Alice ?

Or just bunnies sbs

[covert venture]

I mean, we had to invest in bunnies/JKs, too

Not like they're just sitting at 1/1/1

Would be weirder if Tove/Leona could get away with 1/1/1

[native narwhal]

Sure but bunnies and jk work with a lot of chars

[covert venture]

Yeah, that's the big catch for F2P

Is building an SG team worthwhile

I want to see her numbers without Tove/Leona, cuz Gastix didn't think too highly of it from what I read.

Of course, everything is subject to change™️ until we see full numbers

We don't have level 10 skills or ATK ratios yet

PrivM could end up 2B 2.0

[sour inlet]

Or she ends up as a perma lobby screen

[novel moon]

no

[sour inlet]

Either one of them works for me

[covert venture]

The thing with Leona and Tove is that their buffs actually negate the problems with SGs we've had since the beginning of the game

[novel moon]

SG will never be good till theres a boss thats literally a wall. and literally in the face of the SG comp and doesnt move.

[covert venture]

so investing in Tove/Leona pretty much means investing in every single SG unit that will come out in the future

(unless they're a last-hit type)

[autumn plover]

landeater maybe ?

[covert venture]

No, the Hit Rate buffs + optimal range enhancements mean that the circles get quite narrow

[novel moon]

id think not land eater tbh

the hit rate needs to be like 50%+ to even mean anything.

[covert venture]

Most bosses are already fat enough for SG spreads to generally hit everything; it's the optimal range that usually guts their damage

[autumn plover]

tbh i see cute waifu, i pull

[sour inlet]

Sucks that basically every boss either jumps around like a spastic, has no core, or flies and moves away too far

[novel moon]

this is what im saying

[covert venture]

Has no core is a boon for SGs tho since it means other weapons are weaker

Moving around is a skill issue

[autumn plover]

i dont know what a core is to begin with

[sour inlet]

Not necessarily

Sure every other weapon is weaker but some units don't need to hit core to excel

Eg scalter

[covert venture]

A few outliers don't deny change the general trend

[novel moon]

lets see numbers before we start talking general trend.

[sour inlet]

Does the shotgun team have to burst to reduce their spread ?

[velvet berry]

Leona buffs HR during fb

[novel moon]

20% hit buff woooo

[sour inlet]

Interesting.

Surely the next SR boss won't be someone far away with no core

[novel moon]

the only way a full SG comp will work is if each SG has a self hit buff + leonas hit buff + cope of the last units slot with hit buff

[thorn seal]

And she has that effective range buff too right?

[sour inlet]

I'm just waiting for M.Priv to have shit scaling with her skills so she isn't considered a DPS

And then back to the shotgun DPS waiting room

[velvet berry]

That's shit, and doesn't work

Won't work on LE I think

[sour inlet]

Wait wait wait, maid privaty has cat ears and cat tail

This changes everything

[brazen wolf]

She is a Catgirl Maid lapdog

[covert venture]

At level 1

Oh wait, Leona

nvm

I'm dumb

[novel moon]

[covert venture]

I need to sleep

I'll hope for more juicy leaks upon waking

[brazen wolf]

Sleep well, and reminder of raid in 7~ hours

[covert venture]

I start work when UR starts, so I'm always late to hit Day 1

[velvet berry]

What does one do about the insane investment requirement on tove Leona priv

You can't just do that, can you

[novel moon]

just dont invest. dont fall for the trap. SG never gonna take off brochacho. save the manuals for whats important. duos and pilgrims.

[velvet berry]

Essentially tove is locked and destined for greatness
She's a general sg buffer and SG units will come in the future

But what do you do about midona and priv

[thorn seal]

Oh damn

[quartz sable]

to be precise, it does increase eff range, but takes it from 0-25 to 0-30, rather than to 0-45 like people were hoping (45 being ar range)

so it's basically useless

[novel moon]

exactly

[jovial forge]

inb4 Pilgrm Duo SGs scaling on Pallets

[novel moon]

well chime is a SMG so idk about chime and crown. but who knows anything is in the air of possibilities for year 2 nikke.

[jovial forge]

who said i was talking about chime

things can change so no sense thinking about it anyways, for now its best to focus on what we have

devs introduced pallet mechanics and pallet scaling almost immediately, so it's not a far cry to think another Nikke wouldn't scale like this after Priv m

[brazen wolf]

Reminder that Summer Mary was a shotgun before they changed her to sniper rifle

[novel moon]

[brazen wolf]

And this also happened with Mast already having scenes ingame, i think it was right before her banner

[whole mountain]

im conflicted with mast, some things i like from the old design and theres other that i like on the new design

[brazen wolf]

The new desing shows her ass while shooting, that's a win, but i like her old face more

[novel moon]

difference is mast doesnt have her gun on her. iiirc chimes idle l2d you can see her gun, which looked pretty smg but who knows, who cares till its in game anyways anymore.

[whole mountain]

im still sad with old moran design, i liked the bozosoku/shorthair/muscular/darkskin/tomboy/mommy/bigtiddy/kindadumb vibes from her

[brazen wolf]

Agree, but i don't think her old aesthetic fits her "Moron" personality.

Anyway, we getting of track, this kind of talk goes in The Eden, not Datamine Discussions

[sour inlet]

i liked the smuggyness in her old design

her new design is just horny

[harsh bison]

yep

[rose spruce]

The smile in her bikini skin is what gets me to love her new model

[coarse ivy]

So trauma time for Privaty? If the clothing she's wearing wasn't embarrassing enough

[green shadow]

Was last year valentine 2 week or 3 week

[coarse ivy]

2

[green shadow]

Ok 2 week event

2 units

Skip Moran

[leaden crescent]

doubt they'll drop a limited on a 2 week banner

[green shadow]

🙂

[green shadow]

Its not limited most likely

Just an alt

[coarse ivy]

But muh 3 weeks for premium ticket and depression story

[leaden crescent]

seasonals have always been limited

I dont see why she would be diff

[coarse ivy]

And you can't pass up an origin story for why Privaty is a tsundere dog

[knotty minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/imabesavingthatforlater-imabesavingthat4later-imabesavingthat-ima-be-saving-that-ima-be-saving-that-for-later-gif-16548514061732001937

[rose spruce]

Oh yeah Pribaty gonna release after Ade I assume?

[zealous hazel]

Hope so, need to refill my stock

[rose spruce]

I wasn't reading the datamine carefully and thiught they skipped ade and put Privaty instead. I am happy Ade is breaking from npc prison... Now we still got to wait for Rumani

[midnight folio]

and Rouge

[rose spruce]

And K

[echo pike]

does Privaty get buffed?

[zealous hazel]

Her chest, yes

[echo pike]

feel like from the original to the skin to the maid become more massive

[zealous hazel]

Meta wise, sg is kinda a meh weapon tbh

[echo pike]

[zealous hazel]

Sg got so many buffers and still niche