Datamine Discussions

[tulip onyx]

or am i

been told japan nickname rupee as a mini scarlet
that's why i said that

[zealous hazel]

It will.be funny if their buff is actually bugged and those nikke becomes even worse

[vital slate]

Soline is still bugged

But anyway why would you invest in Soline

When in most content you don't even have a chance to keep 100% HP full uptime

[zealous hazel]

Buff isn't out yet so let's wait and see.

[tulip onyx]

they should game modes that require mass produced unit and manual play only

[zealous hazel]

Manual play only? Bruh nah

[tulip onyx]

this top tier creeping is boring, lemme play the bottom tiers

[thorn oyster]

Maybe they’ll do a retrofit system like AL. Make new units better than base Scarlet, but can only retrofit and buff older units that have reached core 7 and retrofit scarlet still top. There whales won’t be pissed off and they successfully implemented some form of powercreep

So people will stop complaining about all future units being shittier than scarlet

[vital slate]

Uh no

[zealous hazel]

Core 7 required?💀

[thorn oyster]

I’m thinking with shiftup mindset

[tulip onyx]

you're not welcomed here go away

[vital slate]

This guy is on drugs if he thinks shift Up would do something like that

[thorn oyster]

Yeah don’t want to piss off whales if a new unit powercreeps their core 7 heavily invested scarlet.

[vital slate]

Imagine making a new mechanic only for <0.01% playerbase to keep old characters Alive

[tulip onyx]

bring out the spear gun we found one
🏁 🐳

[wooden marten]

tbh

im more thinking that nikke flexing is getting OL

and whales cant do jack about it with money once they bought a single piece

[zealous hazel]

Power creeping gotta be slow. So in 1+ year time, sure power creeping the meta

[wooden marten]

but a F2P lucc sac can nab 3 pilgrim atk gear in 1 run with their scarletless units

and do more damage than a C7 OL-less scarlet

[tulip onyx]

i'm at 160 wall i already stopped climbing the overzone challenge lol

[vital slate]

I see the game staying in the same meta we have now in 2-3+ years

[wooden marten]

well the challenge stops at 160 anyway even on 1-20

[vital slate]

They don't need to change the meta to make money

And they've been very careful not releasing stupidly Broken units

[zealous hazel]

Honestly they should powercreep. To get the game moving forward. And new player can benefit with newer/ broken characters

[thorn oyster]

Yet that’s been a complaint echoed in the playerbase

[vital slate]

You still bring Liter over Dorothy in partless fights

[thorn oyster]

“New units are niche trash”

No reason to pull

[vital slate]

More like every released Elysion is trash

Sakura was a good unit

[zealous hazel]

There is a problem with releasing only niche units tho

It dilutes the pool making it harder for new players to join

Imagine you are new player, everyone telling you to get liter and there 20+ nikke that's all niche. It's now x2 harder to get liter

[vital slate]

Wishlist

[tulip onyx]

i don't have to imagine it
i am new

[thorn oyster]

Like I personally think if blanc + noir releases and needing both of them for their pair buffs only for them to end up as niche or mediocre would just be bad design

[tulip onyx]

but true, i also think unit combo makes an interesting meta

breath new life into older units

[wooden marten]

im curious about a specific line for noir and blanc

[vital slate]

They don't really care about new ppl because the moment you hit that character wall is so many months Deep into the Game that by then they have the f2p grabbed by the balls if he's still playing

[tulip onyx]

what if ludmilla get 10x buff matched with someone newly released

[zealous hazel]

Yep, tell new player to dump their savings into normal banner

[tulip onyx]

blanc / noir sets a new combo meta

[tulip onyx]

plot twist they have to placed side by side also

[zealous hazel]

We don't know what that mean tho. Are they beyond useless if you only got 1 tho?

[wooden marten]

are we gonna have the same gimmik as a certain uwoooh game?

buffs when together?

[inland thicket]

It could be some miniscule buff

[wooden marten]

still tho

all the other units within the same squad in banner release never had this line

[vital slate]

Imo I'm 80% sure they won't be relevant to the game

Those are my 2 cents

[thorn oyster]

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case

[tulip onyx]

they better fix the pvp softlock with dorofy

[wooden marten]

i mean just like BA noir and blanc are biological sisters

unless im wrong..

[zealous hazel]

Biological?

[inland thicket]

[wooden marten]

I FOUND IT

see

im not wrong

[tulip onyx]

light bunny as opposed to the other is dark bunny?
or heavy -

[wooden marten]

dunno but elder took the oppotunity of the younger to be pomf pomf

[sweet mesa]

you mean Blanc and Noir are biological siblings when they were humans

[wooden marten]

ye

[daring gazelle]

Its probably so gimmicky its only useful on certain events like the Union Raid

[hazy river]

...

Wait wrong place

[keen temple]

What does that whole list mean

What does this mean?

explain like im a tard?

[whole surge]

different characters and their assets

[azure horizon]

10 or 20 pity, so like theres a fixed number of rewards and u go through each of them. Cost for each pull increases, so the 1st one is the cheapest and the last one is dogshit expensive.
So essentially you can consider the skin's price to be the sum of all the pulls.

[azure horizon]

Filenames

[keen temple]

File name

for

voice pack?

[azure horizon]

Nah those were for the icons

Theres another one for voices, another one for models etc

[daring gazelle]

Its likely going to cost as much as 5 to 10 times as much as the paid costumes from the shop.

[azure horizon]

In pgr the skin gachas cost around 40-50 regular pulls

And character pity is 60

So if we consider 200 as pity in nikke...

[proven birch]

500 bucks skin

[azure horizon]

She had better have an areola slip and cameltoe to justify that pricetag

[bright sphinx]

and there's people who "supports" that method of getting skin

[azure horizon]

I mean... It might be possible for hoarders to get it without spending a cent so in a way it is a free skin

while every other skin so far has needed you to spend actual money

[bright sphinx]

why do I have massive doubt about the cost getting with gems being cheap

inb4 1 pull for skin 300 gems and 3k gems for 10 pulls

[mild fiber]

that is brown bunny. not dark. bruh

[wooden marten]

i mean... the color brown is a dark one...

[wooden marten]

I bet that if we get costume gacha, itll be prolly like that where the cost increases but eventually get all...

[dim elbow]

tanned bunny

[bronze finch]

ehem

[ripe dust]

Do we have the contents and price of skin gacha yet

[wooden marten]

unless they make it truly gacha

but for now we can only dream/guess/theorycraft and whatchamacallit

[ripe dust]

99$ for rupee bunny skin

Look at ToF skin gachas for example

It's minimum 99$

Same publisher

[wooden marten]

id rather look at honkai costumes

expensive asf but the whole thing is different

[ripe dust]

Honkai isn't tencent

[wooden marten]

animatino isnt the same, pose isnt the same, idle isnt the same

[daring gazelle]

Its probably going to costs like $159 or more total

[wooden marten]

wtf no

690$

[daring gazelle]

[ripe dust]

Yeah ToF has gachapons for 100$ up to 150$

[wooden marten]

inb4 the 690$ costume pack comes with

• Lv 10 Skills & Burst mats
• 100k Core Dust
• 200m Battle Data
• 16m Credits
• rupee costume
• 320

basically to +10 Synch device and lv 10 all her kit

[daring gazelle]

The only way for them to attract the other players is to add meth on the gachapon

[whole mountain]

Why is it so hard to use #1059468005911830558 for stuff that they post in the Ingame Notice

[digital cloud]

so is datamine really dead? damn I thought they only tightened the tap for half anniv

[wooden marten]

no one talks there when i say something

[fast sparrow]

yes datamine is ded so #1059468005911830558 is the next destination

[wooden marten]

#1059468005911830558 is like #general-chat

Full blown discussion in the wrong place
Mod warns to go in right place
both place goes quiet
few moments later → Full blown discussion in the wrong place

[regal lily]

[tulip onyx]

naming a channel eden isn't exactly intuitive now is it

[wooden marten]

it was called datamina-with-off-topic or something

at least you knew the channel had off-topic to go to

but eden is like... "nice cool, an eden channel, dunno whats it about but ok"

so people stay here and off-topic like never before

[green shadow]

Well a mod said its now a private chat for elevated access

[whole mountain]

I can put a slow mode here or idk lock it until datamine post something

The eden is lore wise

Like almost everything in this server

[green shadow]

I prefer there cus its quiet

[nova coyote]

no slow mode please

peeps pls behave

[fast sparrow]

good
behave guys

[nova coyote]

pls behave

[chilly torrent]

Any leak data for Gacha Costume rate?

[ember basalt]

are you that Mizore

[chilly torrent]

?? What do you mean by that Mizore?

I'm just a normie

[ember basalt]

i thought you were him

sorry i don't intend to go off topic let's move on

[keen temple]

They big mad when Shifty got leak for April Fools

[keen temple]

discussion in the wrong place

Unholy starting those discussion

[keen temple]

He is

[ember basalt]

[wooden marten]

lolw0t

i shortened by name 17 years ago

[ivory wagon]

#1059468005911830558

https://tenor.com/view/hoam-ngantuk-nguap-net-netmediatama-gif-5330942

[bronze finch]

It showed everywhere, no need use this place to discuss

[cedar spire]

I know I should be saying this on #1059468005911830558 but yea since he asked Imma answer

Girls frontline does it and only source for their income

[cedar spire]

Ying and yang

[cedar spire]

Oh yea almost forgot about honkai doing skin gacha

Back to the topic

The pity for the gacha skin probably around 50-80 the cost per pull increases (better hope it doesn't)

[stuck torrent]

So a 20 usd skin could end up costing 100 usd? Lol

I hope it’s not that bad

[harsh sparrow]

is it confirmed to not be event currency gacha?

i thought it would be something that you'd roll for with coins earned from a minigame or something like that

[tulip onyx]

nothing is confirmed there's no info

[harsh sparrow]

oh ok, not sure why the consensus is automatically otherwise then

[velvet berry]

@burnt trench

[burnt trench]

Decent, might hit personal top 15

[keen temple]

@burnt trench @velvet berry

At least post the whole set, bruh

[velvet berry]

I ain't got the whole set man

So she's AR?

Or is that an lmg

[keen temple]

https://nikke.gamekee.com/577528.html

Here you go

dated tho

since december

[keen temple]

OMG the pixels

[velvet berry]

4k UHD

[harsh sparrow]

for those that want separate images to zoom in on

[azure horizon]

that ass is shotgun tier

bubble butt like neve/frima

only SG jiggle will do it justice

[keen temple]

Also burst animation

[burnt trench]

moved to top 10

[merry shoal]

SMG

[coarse patio]

So there is gacha for skins too?

How much is rupees bunny skin going to cost on average

[ashen pasture]

100usd max

Rumours said 50 draw max

Each 10 draw is 19.90

And to get it without pity is almost impossible

[orchid kite]

Sounds like cap unless we got the data to prove it

[ashen pasture]

Read korean or chinese?

Basically only the 5th draw rupee have a chance to drop

The red box

Horizontal is item

Vertical is number of draw

[sweet tusk]

Happy to hear they listened to our feedback of wanting the costumes to be more unique for being 20 bucks now we got a special one and it'll only cost the average mortgage

[proven birch]

so what's used to draw

paid gems?

[sweet tusk]

It looks like it's using money for the pulls

[proven birch]

cringe

[ashen pasture]

U buy token using money, then each unspend one can convert to 120gems( after when u get the skin )

[proven birch]

still cringe

[ashen pasture]

Well we can only be sure after the whole things out

[sweet tusk]

I think I'd be fine with daily nikke making this public so they can label it as misinformation

Rupee is gonna have the rep of being the most controversial nikke

[proven birch]

First censored alter then 500 bucks skin

[ashen pasture]

Lore wise, she is huge spender but dress nice, so shikicum need to spend fortune to dress her up

[proven birch]

Rupee getting shafted by ugly bastard tencent

Penguin kun

[maiden rune]

I have question. If I don’t have Rupee, so I can pull costume gacha?

[ashen pasture]

Max 100 usd, pity at 50 draws

[ashen pasture]

U can but u only can wear it urself until u get her

[proven birch]

who buys 100$ skins

only Tim would do that

[ashen pasture]

Csgo player

I mean u can copium u will get it at 10 draws but i dont think it will really happen, the chance her stated 0.1 percent, genshin is 0.6 and u know hw hard to get unit in genshin without pity

[whole surge]

What's the source on this?

[ashen pasture]

Some chinese leakers get from korean

Tbh, i hope it was fake and the rate is nt this bad and exp

[wary sail]

to sell them $300 later

[sweet tusk]

It feels like they have some kind of quota they have to meet like everytime they do something good they need to do something abysmal to keep neutral

[ashen pasture]

Csgo market is sky rocketing rn so it is justify, nikke is...

[whole surge]

News say that you pull with event currency so I assume that's the case

[ashen pasture]

I think they know hw good the skin is and.nt afraid to do shit like that

[ashen pasture]

Which news?

The notice in game?

[wary sail]

the patch notes did say something along the lines of « draw 10 times to get the skin »

and now we need 50?

[ashen pasture]

Might be a old datamine

Who knows

Or might be a troll

But outside here it was circulating

Kinda hope it was fake and can get it free

[old viper]

What I find weird is that they always state if something is paid or if u use gems as far as I remember. So them avoiding that to this point leads me to the copium hope it will be event currency

[placid spade]

Real question, why chinese and kr text on a same sheet

[old viper]

I don't trust that sheet

[old viper]

Specially since am pretty sure rigging a paid gacha in that way is illegal

[ashen pasture]

This ori, the other translate
Me no korean, only can assume the chinese is right translation

[whole surge]

"*the item [bunny costume ticket] is required for the draw"

And the line bellow that

[ashen pasture]

Yes they say u buy the ticket per 10 using 19.90

And the ticket can be refund to 120 gem after u get the skin

[old viper]

Dev note would have stated that imo

[bronze finch]

it not bout dev note, it's bout patch note

[whole surge]

None of the in game shops is called "ticket shop" is it?

[sweet tusk]

I'm sniffing that heavy copium that this sheet is wrong but my heart knows they plan on keeping quiet till it's out and then hiding when it hits the fan

[old viper]

All they said is event this event that

So I still have hope

[bronze finch]

let say keep your copium low as af instead

[sweet tusk]

I've been able to tolerate everything they've done so far but locking a rupee bunny girl skin that's supposedly better then what they've been throwing out behind a gacha is my breaking point

[placid spade]

I bet f2p would be complain anyway although the skin is cosmetic only

[ashen pasture]

I mean, things can be added, not im saying this is real 100 percent, but things can be added, just sgare wat i saw outside

[whole surge]

Well it is the

Uh

3rd?

Full change costume

[bronze finch]

keep copium lvl down af, problem solve, now cut the chat

[whole surge]

Only a few costumes changes the battle pose too

[old viper]

I still think that sheet looks sus, gotta wait for more info I guess

[ashen pasture]

Helm, dolla, viper, alice and this?

[whole surge]

Maybe, I don't remember them all rn

[merry shoal]

emma alice and this

[ashen pasture]

Just need to wait another 36 hrs

[sweet tusk]

F2P aren't real players

[merry shoal]

only 3

[ashen pasture]

Nikke is design to not f2p especialky the 160 wall

[old viper]

Or for them to randomly clarify on Twitter haha

[noble roost]

expecting a premium skin with new animations, voicelines and poses to be free is honestly pretty copium

[merry shoal]

$100 is also madness, considering emma and alice wer 20 bucks

[ashen pasture]

Nah they just shove it in game and ignore the criticism abt the price

But since skin doesnt affect the gameplay so nth i can complain really, just lick the skin in nikkepedia

[old viper]

I don't care if they make it cost gems tbh, but am not paying for gacha tickets

[ashen pasture]

Different cover pose, different voiceline is confirmed

Maybe different burst too?
Does it justify the 100?

[old viper]

Nah

Even 20 is a lot already

[sweet tusk]

If it was on a pass and they decided to make this one 30 I'd accept that it's the gacha that's a problem for me

[ashen pasture]

20 u get brid skin that cover her tits

[bronze finch]

Now cut the chit chat

[obsidian fern]

vote with your wallet. don't spend if you don't want this costume gacha to continue

[ashen pasture]

Eden perhaps?

[sweet tusk]

That brid skins biggest offense is they never fixed her physics so her booba still look like a nutsack

[obsidian fern]

they're testing the waters with this to see if they can get away with it

[old viper]

If they go that route they won't stop, ToF never stopped and that game is pretty ded already

[bronze finch]

#1059468005911830558

[old viper]

We are actually discussing a leak this time but whatever

[orchid kite]

Not to be that guy but can you leave the moderating to the mods?

[keen temple]

I have no fkin clue how to interpret this table

what does each row mean

the first 4 rows where the skin rate is 0%

and the row 5 to 10 where the skin rate is 0.1%

Is it

For every 10 pulls (20 USD)
u get 0.6% to pull a skin ?

so at 40 pulls (80usd)
u get 2.4% to get the skin

[bronze finch]

Better safe than sorry

[keen temple]

but at 50 pulls (100usd)

you get a pity for the skin?

[azure horizon]

Skin only drops after 5 pulls and you get it at or before 10 pulls

Is what the guy who sent that said

[keen temple]

The chance of getting per 10 pulls is 0.6%

am i correct.

[robust temple]

0.1% per pull

After 4th step

[sweet tusk]

There's some nice stuff in there but what is mittle filittle water?

[robust temple]

First 4 steps is 4 pull

So 46 pulls with 0.1% before spark

[sweet tusk]

So this is a step up gacha?

That makes it less bad I think instead of having to do multiple 10 pulls if I'm looking at it right

[robust temple]

Last steps is 10 pull per step

[keen temple]

spark?

[robust temple]

Yea it's say 50 for spark

[keen temple]

and is 50pulls (100usd) the pity for Skin?

[robust temple]

And if you get her early you can change it for 120 gems per pull spent

[robust temple]

Basically yes

[sweet tusk]

It seems like I'd have an easier time getting a pilgrim

[robust temple]

Should be 4.5% chance to get her before pity

Basically 100$ skin with some extra random rewards

And it doesn't say if there is pity for other rewards

[sweet tusk]

They dropped it on Twitter and said nothing other then you get it from the gacha

[keen temple]

How does that work

[robust temple]

Chance that you lose 46 time in a row

[hollow plank]

it's tower all over again isnt it

[robust temple]

And then 100% minus that chance is the chance that you will get at least 1 within 46 pulls

[hollow plank]

[keen temple]

basically

99.9%^46

[lyric comet]

[deep needle]

Say you lying

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[sweet tusk]

I'm probably gonna enjoy watching people seethe after it gets put into the game and just take it all in since they won't do anything about it and possibly start doing it instead of passes

[midnight solar]

100$ gacha skin

[whole mountain]

[sweet tusk]

It's fine since they "give" you the equipment shinies that you need to beat the si boss for and still have a chance to not get

[midnight solar]

my gif

[whole mountain]

let me introduce you to #1059468005911830558

[orchid kite]

Still gotta play the wait and see game before jumping to conclusions, but the moment they tied "gacha" to the costume, I knew we were in for some bullshit one way or another

[obsidian fern]

no costume is worth $100. Especially not in a game like this. You aren't running around in some large overworld to fully appreciate it. It's just something you see in battle and a home screen.

There's gonna be a lot of backlash towards this, I feel

Hopefully enough to convince them not to do it again

devs are crazy to think adding unique voice and animation makes it 5 times more expensive.

[zealous hazel]

Lines are blurred when rng is involved. Some ppl will likely luck out and get it free. Others will QQ

[signal cobalt]

just wait for the skin swap mod lol

+$100

[zealous hazel]

There is a silver lining to costume gacha tho.

These costumes all better be 🔥

No more subpar costumes

I want costume that rivals AL costume

[sour inlet]

did someone just say it costs $100 to pity the skin in gacha?

these numbers are doing my head in

[zealous hazel]

Nah, ppl just throwing out numbers. We don't know rates and free tries so no one can give you actual cost

But $100 skin isn't new tbh

[sour inlet]

it isnt?

have i been living under a rock

what gacha has a 100 dollar skin

[zealous hazel]

Maybe not exactly $100 but it gets there

[sour inlet]

the fact that its a gacha based skin is already bad

if the rates are even worse than pulling a rate up unit

i hope theres significant backlash on this

its disgusting

[wooden marten]

¿¿¿ free tries? this isnt a mihoyo game lol

[signal cobalt]

r u implying Mihoyo is generous

[wooden marten]

no but more than tencent

[sour inlet]

at this point just mod the skins in, its a bit cringe what they are doing right now

[wooden marten]

lets be lucky we got modders for skin at all

unlike 10years back when it wasnt even in our dreams to have modded game to have skins

[sour inlet]

you mean to say we need to get lucky for someone to mod the skin in?

[zealous hazel]

It says you only roll costume gacha with special ticket. I'm assuming these tickets are earned in the event. And if you want more tries you whale

[sour inlet]

they gonna give you 1 ticket per day

mark my words

as a daily reward

[wooden marten]

yes and no, to be precise
being able to access the files and make it possible to be used without paying is a big thing
all you need is the knowledge to do so or ask someone to do it

[zealous hazel]

I got Dorothy with free pull, I can get skin too

[sour inlet]

i suppose

im too scared to mod tho

[wooden marten]

theres that too

even if you know, some are scared of being caught

thus they make alt account but in reality would like to slap it on mains

[ashen pasture]

Correct and the pity is at 50 draws

[velvet berry]

Any mine on full rupee skin?

[robust temple]

Actually check this table again and it looks like 10 draws with increasing price

But then rates make even less sense, 0.1% for 6 draws is stupidly low

[ashen pasture]

Yea u right

10 draws

Max

But 50 token used

The first few only need single digit tokens

FOMO and sunk cost tactics to the max

[shy ember]

There's some Advanced Recruitment Banners tho

[ashen pasture]

But seems like u can only get once? 10 items in the pool and can get each 1

[shy ember]

I guess we will have to see tmrw.

I am looking forward to a breather episode after finishing Snow White Memories

[zealous hazel]

Isn't tomorrow patch?

Breather as in 7hr maint?

[ashen pasture]

Lol he meant the story of overzone is depressing and 777 might be a fun little story like bow wow paradise

But no chit chat here, go eden

[azure horizon]

Lemme ask Rei the data-minor

[zealous hazel]

Nah it's more like you get pity in 10 roll which may give you skin, advance tickets, mats etc

I don't think it will be 10 roll = skin

Only 2 days. Gotta wait for details

[ashen pasture]

10 in the pool, cost increase each pull, after u pull the prize it gone from the pool permanently

U can only do 10 pull since there is only 10 item in the pool

[zealous hazel]

Doubt skin will be in that 10 item pool

[ashen pasture]

Be noted first pull is free but 0 chance to get skin

[zealous hazel]

I bloody doubt it's that ez

[ashen pasture]

19.90 for 10 token

And at pull 8, 9, 10 will require 10 token each pull

[sand crown]

So we cant use gem for skin gacha right? Gotta swipe?

[ashen pasture]

Pull 2 and 3 only need 1 token

4 is 2
5 is 4
6 and 7 is 6

Total 50 token

100 usd

[zealous hazel]

Ah, that's where the $100 dollar price tag comes from

[ashen pasture]

Yup

U can get lucky, but will you??

[zealous hazel]

But first 4 level is 0% so of course not

[ashen pasture]

Nt sure will the rate that got drawn will split to the other item

[zealous hazel]

Wait, why is it .1 for pool 5+? We getting multiple skin or something?

[ashen pasture]

Like if u get the resources package will the 32.75 split to other side

[sweet tusk]

That's the chance for the skin

[ashen pasture]

If that the case then u have chance to get it at second pull

[zealous hazel]

I get that, but the assumption is you roll 10x and guarantee

So let's say u did that and got skin. Why is rate still .1 for pool 6?

[sweet tusk]

The table is showing the chance increasing it looks like

[ashen pasture]

Might nt be the case, it might be at 2nd pull after u get like the 32.75 percent item, the 32.75 percent item split into the remaining item

So at 2nd pull u might get 4.5 percent for rupee skin

Or

They didnt split the chance and use remaining number as gacha rate, that means the percentage is not 100% but max percentage is 67.25%

[zealous hazel]

Oh I get it now.

It's only 1 pool

So first 4 pull has zero % then pull 5 to 10 is .1 each

[ashen pasture]

Correct but since u get things at the 1st free pull, the question is will the item percentage that got taken will split the chance into the remaining item

32.75 divide 9

Thus at 2nd pull rupee skin chance will get to 4.5%

But i doubt thar

[zealous hazel]

Ya doubt. If it distribute, rupee should not have 0% chance

[quartz sable]

oh the mtl of one of the bottom right blurbs says the chance gets redistributed to the other items evenly

[quartz sable]

this

[zealous hazel]

0 times anything is still zero tho

[ashen pasture]

Yea so if u get the 32.75 2nd pull rupee skin will be 4.5

[ashen pasture]

Addition

[zealous hazel]

Chance distributed evenly or based on its original rate?

[tulip onyx]

barney rupee costume huh...
purple dinosaurs making a come back in trends i see

still no clue what that chart says lol
guess we'll find out soon in just about day's time

[sweet tusk]

I don't think I'm familiar with this fetish?

[ashen pasture]

Evenly perhaps, if ppl post they get it at 2nd pull it will stimulate ppl to try

[zealous hazel]

Welp, so only way to get pulls is to buy packages

[ashen pasture]

Yes money

[tulip onyx]

that's horse **

[zealous hazel]

Loot in general

[ashen pasture]

Advance recruit ticket x 10
Blue stone
Skill book
Resources box

Affinity item

[tulip onyx]

u buy things that u dont' want or need only to *maybe have a chance at cosmestic?

that's messed up

[zealous hazel]

Gambling. Daily reminder this game is 12+

[ashen pasture]

U guarentee to get it at 10 draws, but the odds for u to get it earlier is very against u

[sand crown]

Its lore accuracy, u are buying clothes for Rupee here

[zealous hazel]

Lore accuracy, rupee don't want your $20 outfit. She want the limited edition one that cost x5 times more

[tulip onyx]

did't someone say no skin in first 4 draws?
so u have to get up to draw# 5-10 minimum

[sweet tusk]

Buying clothes for rupee but it's like sending the miis out to buy gear in that rpg game you gave them 50 bucks to buy it but they came back with no money and a banana

[ashen pasture]

The item u drawn, its rate will evenly distribute to the rest

If that the case

[tulip onyx]

no impressed
i dno't have a thing for rabbits anyway
easy pass

[ashen pasture]

Good for you, 100 usd can be a college student monthly grocery fees

[sweet tusk]

I like rupee and love bunny girls but this just ain't it this Is making that 100 dollar t9m selector look better

[ashen pasture]

U get 10 advance recruit in this tho and it might nt cost 100usd of u lucky

Copium max output

[sweet tusk]

[tulip onyx]

stay in school
eat good
quit gacha
succeed in life

[cedar spire]

Black desert in a nutshell
1bil silver coins or basically 100mil gold coins for a piece of gear

[wooden marten]

eat school
stay in good
succeed in gacha
quit life

[bright sphinx]

wow

20$ looking mighty fine now

[wooden marten]

not confirmed

but expect your bank account to go dry

[zealous hazel]

Wym not confirmed, that excel says $100

[wooden marten]

w0t

where

lemme scroll

This?

[noble roost]

KR sheet got updated to include a tab about the skin gacha but its still hidden atm

[bright sphinx]

[wooden marten]

kek

is the language of the gacha costume in chinese?

[bright sphinx]

this gonna age like yogurt now

[bright sphinx]

yes

[wooden marten]

dam

cant wait to get luffy skin

[bright sphinx]

kek yeah translation is wacky

[noble roost]

yeah its like half translated

[bright sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gordo-luffy-gordinho-gif-25125796

[noble roost]

I went to compare the korean names of the items and these should be what's in the skin gacha

[azure horizon]

This is the real one piece

[noble roost]

only 3-2 is kinda iffy

[zealous hazel]

Ya that. Bottom right it says $100

[wooden marten]

noooooooo, my luffe skin!!!

[bright sphinx]

shit

costum module???

[wooden marten]

ye man

[noble roost]

you're probably only gonna be able to pull each tier once

[zealous hazel]

Only 3 tho

[wooden marten]

you have 3 custome module to use the ones in #modded-assets

[noble roost]

so it does line up with the notice saying you'll get everything within 10 pulls

[bright sphinx]

so just drop 100$

and you gucci?

[noble roost]

yeah basically

thats supposedly the hard pity anyways

[bright sphinx]

ok

so ToF style

welp

good luck f2p

here's the skin you guys want

it's "free"

[noble roost]

although we don't know how the probability of items remaining in the gacha changes as you get them

since it mentions something about it being distributed to the remaining items?

cant really tell until tomorrow I guess

[azure horizon]

Thats usually how costume gacha works

Fixed number of items

U get em one by one

[wooden marten]

nah

[azure horizon]

Each one has a % of dropping which changes based on amount of items left

But the relative chance remains the same

[noble roost]

yeah previous gachas I've played used a similar system

you eventually exhaust the items in the pool

or you luck out and get the skin early

[azure horizon]

Doesnt make sense otherwise since this isnt a character gacha

What will u do with skin dupes

[noble roost]

[azure horizon]

Gift it to a friend?

Time to befriend whales

[wooden marten]

lets be lucky this isnt like elsword:
You got 100$? ok, heres the gloves and maybe pants, good luck for the top piece, hair, boots, weapon & accessories

[bright sphinx]

inb4 the malding from maincord etc

[wooden marten]

maincord is there to entertain us

[bright sphinx]

why are you speaking facts

[wooden marten]

heck, we already had few free costumes no?

[bright sphinx]

[hollow plank]

[wooden marten]

i mean, the white rapi costume was free no?

not this rupee

[bright sphinx]

so far rapi and yuni is free yes

[zealous hazel]

Only 2 free skin so far. So 💀

[wooden marten]

oh right yuni too

wait... diesel wasnt free?

[zealous hazel]

Diesel wasn't free

[wooden marten]

[zealous hazel]

It was the first mission pass or something

[bright sphinx]

she is the first battlepass

[wooden marten]

where the fuck did i even get it then

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

[bright sphinx]

[zealous hazel]

You get the char free in first month tho

[bright sphinx]

you fingers mysteriously hover the checkout button right?

[wooden marten]

what finger

anyway... if 100$ is truly the hard pity, i guess its fine

[tulip onyx]

what does the tier even mean

[wooden marten]

like in ToF i guess?

1 & 2 = gold
3 & 4 = purple
5 = blue

something like that

[tulip onyx]

i've decided i'll draw for blanc only if she turns out better than centi
if not i'm just gonna stack for nier collab

[wooden marten]

i doubt she can replace centi for burst filling wise

but if for protection she does better then ye

[placid spade]

Goddamn it, 2.4 gb of bgm

[nocturne skiff]

shitup continuing to drop the ball

[proven birch]

what ball there's no ball

they already lost the ball somewhere

[wooden marten]

the ball was lost somewhere during CBT

[shy ember]

Ah so it's like Call of Duty Mobile

[placid spade]

[hazy river]

I hope nikke devs wont fuck the 777 event up by releasing a 100 dollar skin

[coarse ivy]

hmm isn't that kind of illegal in Japan?

[proven birch]

and the PvP system error with Rei

[mint furnace]

As a former brave exvius player nope its not illegal as long as they're separate banners

[wooden marten]

eh?

i mean even in BA they were in seperate banners, i was referring to having extra skills when in the same team

[coarse ivy]

Inb4 Crown and Chime have something similar

Snow White refers to them as sisters too

[sweet mesa]

wait did I just see forced in-lore to in-game character synergy?

[wooden marten]

i mean its wrttenin the biology...

[tulip onyx]

what and why is that illegal?
gambling law?

[sweet mesa]

what's even the borderline of that on JP Gacha laws?

characters should not have forced synergy passives?

[obsidian fern]

ToF's skin gachas cost around $100 to hard pity if you start from scratch but you can use the free currency (gem equivalent)

so realistically you're never starting from scratch. It just depends whether you choose to sacrifice character pulls for it or not.

[hollow cosmos]

You need dollars to buy tickets

[fast sparrow]

nah doubt chime crown gonna have similar
in BA only twins like momoi midori have same mechanic as blanc noir despite having another siblings unit
I bet this is only because blanc noir is kinda like "twins" (or they are twins according to their bio)

[sweet mesa]

lol Alchemy Stars' gacha skin system only cost half as much when reaching pity

[hollow cosmos]

Can’t use free gems

[obsidian fern]

If Nikke doesn't allow free gems and forces $$$ to buy the tickets (aside from the few free ones it probably gives) then it's far more scummy

[hollow cosmos]

That’s what the Korean leaks say

[sweet mesa]

well AS also did that system so yeah

[obsidian fern]

Then you better hope this bombs so they don't continue the trend

[sweet mesa]

but what matters is how much in total you have to pity the skin

[hollow cosmos]

Idc, not gonna buy it

[sweet mesa]

it's pricey but how pricey is it?

[coarse ivy]

100 dollars

[sweet mesa]

I mean f2pers are not gonna participate in this

[hollow cosmos]

100$

[sweet mesa]

only whales and hard Rupee simps would buy this

[zealous hazel]

$100 is the hard pity as in you pulled everything and then finally the skin

[obsidian fern]

As I said before: if it's $100 to hard pity then the devs are nuts to think adding special animations and voices to a costume makes it 5 times more expensive. The $20 ones were already kind of a rip off. This is much worse

[zealous hazel]

other games have skin and legendary skins

where legendary skins is like 2-3 times more expensive

[obsidian fern]

This is gonna cause some people to drop the game because they hate shit like this.

[hollow cosmos]

well technically you can get the skin by 5 pulls?

[hollow cosmos]

They think they’re selling the crystals to whale

[zealous hazel]

that more like the minimum with insane luck

since first 4 is guaranteed to not get skin

[obsidian fern]

It's not like ToF where it's an open world mmorpg. Skins have less value here.

[sweet mesa]

they're dropping the game because they can't afford the pulls for the skin? just don't participate in that

you don't have to drop the game because of that

let the gacha skin system fail for itself and devs may reconsider

[zealous hazel]

yep, best weapon we have aside from our wallets is to riot

[obsidian fern]

It's more like it shows the direction the game is going. Stuff like this leads to more crappy monetization due to devs being greedy. The game is already making a lot.

[onyx marlin]

Playerbase: you cant charge us $20 for a skin swap without new voice line and animation

Nikke: okay noted, here is new skin with new voice line and animation

Playerbase: damn, than-

Nikke: and that will be $100

Playerbase:

[obsidian fern]

Even Genshin, the most successful mobile game doesn't do gacha skins.

[hollow cosmos]

The main purpose of this game is getting money ASAP to feed shitup’s other only on PlayStation game

[zealous hazel]

lets be real, those whales is not going to complain and wear rupee skin to show off

[sweet mesa]

like Jdak said

most of you guys are too prone to fomo

[zealous hazel]

rupee skin = whale status.

[hollow cosmos]

Ye, the skin’s targeted clients are whales

[sweet mesa]

yeah let the whales have their badge of shame

[onyx marlin]

Finally coop where not everyone instalock burst 3

[zealous hazel]

dude, i instant lock b3 cuz i see the power levels of my team mates

[sweet mesa]

everyone will try to boycott the gacha skin system anyway

[zealous hazel]

i got like 3x their powerlevel. i cant play support lol

[hollow cosmos]

[zealous hazel]

at least my scarlet can carry a win

[hollow cosmos]

Everyone except whales

[keen temple]

To be honest

Their decision on pricing is likely based on their collected Data

the skin could be 20USD and have 20000 people buying it

but if the price is 40usd and only 12000 people buy it, they will still make more money

likely that they calculated the Equilibrium price to be the max gain for them

[hollow cosmos]

[zealous hazel]

rng is also a factor here. if it was a flat rate. they could charge like 2-3x price. but with rng, they can charge more against ppls bad luck

[wooden marten]

in the end...

[sweet mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/linkin-park-in-the-end-linkin-park-in-the-end-music-chester-bennington-gif-26242393

[wooden marten]

its just a fucking 0 stat skin, quitting game cuz of a skin is just stupid lol

nikke is not elsword where having costume there = POWER

[sweet mesa]

wait Elsword has skin with stats attached to them?

[wooden marten]

yeah meng

every piece of costume = additional stats + slots to add stat stones do dps even harder

and when you get full set, its even more stats and effects

but nikke?

just dont fucking care

id rather have more nikkes than 9999 costumes for 5 nikkes

[sweet mesa]

I hope shiftup makes another survey and people bombards the answers of the skin portion of the survey as "dissatisfactory"

[sweet mesa]

yep if you can't afford it, ignore it
simple as that

[wooden marten]

Their message:
"thank you for your reply, unfortunately, since you didnt give us money, we'll give 0 fucks of your opinon, have a great day"

[sweet mesa]

like I have a friend who is an Exusiai simp who didn't want to buy her $30 skin coz he can't afford it

[wooden marten]

i can afford it, but id rather use that money on banners than costumes

even if i was billionaire, i woulnd do it, for 2 reason

1. if i dont use her, i dont need it
2. i want more nikkes than costume that have 0 bonus stats

[sweet mesa]

I hope the bunnies are decently good both together and individually

[zealous hazel]

thats . i think them empowering each other will get in the way of things

as in they have slightly less stats cuz they are designed to be together. but since they are forced together, their niche kit becomes even more niche

[sweet mesa]

btw kit reveal should be later right?

[wooden marten]

inb4 its just flavor text and were we all flipping for nothing

[zealous hazel]

only 1.5 day or so before they come out so ya

[whole mountain]

Tbh. If you wanna discuss the price it takes to pull the skin just move to #1059468005911830558 , we will know more in a few days. I was okay with discussion about the gacha part.

[midnight folio]

good bgm files

voicelines next when

[keen temple]

Soline

meta now?

XRupee good now?

[onyx marlin]

soline base dmg still shit though?

But imo should be usable for second/third team in union raid as long you bring pepper or rapunzel

[keen temple]

She's getting a 1.25x Damage increase,

did i read that correct

[sweet tusk]

It's not illegal it's only one of those unspoken rules, they're fine with it if one of them is a welfare character but they don't like it in the gacha

I see this as everyone will throw a fit about the gacha but enough people will spend that they'll find it worth it and worse case scenario do this instead of making more passes

[whole mountain]

do we have noir's gameplay?

[sweet tusk]

I think she's gonna need more then just this to be good, still gotta give her more then a 4% defense buff

[whole mountain]

also

any clue who'll be after blanc and noir

[keen temple]

Rosanna

[whole mountain]

where can we see her stuff

model/kit?

[bronze finch]

model yes, kit no

[velvet berry]

Forget datamines for kits

[whole mountain]

^

[pastel lichen]

Where noir and blanc skills

[wary sail]

#ark-news

noir not revealed yet

no datamine

[wary sail]

literally the message above lul

[sweet mesa]

We"re just gonna find out tomorrow after the update anyway

[pastel lichen]

Oooh PvP character?

Will her damage taken work on PvP

[wary sail]

#1059468005911830558 🤓 ☝️

[merry shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981108875229012018/1108369047202041857/File_20230517-082149.jpg

[wary sail]

why dont you ping the guy that actually wants the stuff instead 🤔

[azure horizon]

@pastel lichen

gomen drool-san

[velvet berry]

Izk

[pastel lichen]

[pastel lichen]

Hope shes a clip shotgun then

[placid spade]

She is clip shotgun

[merry shoal]

Blessed

[placid spade]

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      "weapon_type": "SG",
      "attack_type": "Energy",
      "counter_enermy": "Energy_Type",
      "prefer_target": "Front",
      "shot_timing": "Concurrence",
      "fire_type": "Instant",
      "input_type": "DOWN",
      "is_targeting": true,
      "damage": 21430,
      "shot_count": 10,
      "multi_target_count": 0,
      "center_shot_count": 0,
      "max_ammo": 9,
      "reload_time": 50,
      "reload_bullet": 3300,
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      "rate_of_fire_reset_time": 0,
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      "core_damage_rate": 20000,
      "penetration": 0,
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Drake

Noir

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      "ShakeType": "Fire_SG",
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[wicked goblet]

whats accuracy here , hit rate ?

[placid spade]

I guess recoil?

[merry shoal]

Shakeweight? 👀

[sweet tusk]

Shake I'd and shake weight you say

[plucky cargo]

I heard Bunny Rupee gacha rates are leaked

[whole mountain]

Yeah its somewhere in here

[placid spade]

It's paid banner

[plucky cargo]

Banner?

[placid spade]

Skin banner

[plucky cargo]

Yeah I know that

Saw someone saying you need at least $150

[placid spade]

It said 0.1% on kr leak

[plucky cargo]

Oof

[placid spade]

I gonna wait till maint start to confirm the rate

Idk why they make it as step up banner

[honest crane]

Noir
Type: Attacker
Element: Wind
Burst: 3
Cooldown: 40s
Weapon: Shotgun (9 shots - so clip reload)

Skills

Skill 1 - passive
■ Affects all allies. Activates when above 70% HP.
ATK ▲ 8.32/14.08%

Skill 2 - passive
■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects all allies.
Max Ammunition Capacity ▲ 3/5 round(s) for x sec.
Reload ▲ 26.02/39.88%.

Burst - 40s
■ Affects all enemies.
Deals 207/351% of ATK as damage.
■ Affects allies with Shotgun.
Hit Rate ▲ 8.23/13.93% for 10 seconds
Damage to interruption part ▲13.72/23.23% for 10 seconds
■ Activates when an ally from the same squad is on the battlefield. Affects allies with Shotgun. Activates once per battle.
Hit Rate ▲ 6.86/11.61% for 30 seconds
Damage to interruption part ▲11.44/19.36% for 30 seconds

have fun

[placid spade]

Bonus stuff (prob unconfirmed), Noir also has MG as her weapon type (prob some wierd SG -> MG)

[whole mountain]

Hmm another reload buffer not bound to SG

[placid spade]

Seems broken on SR

That's 50-83% boost on SR there

[whole mountain]

Yeah but you already have macro alice with priv admi to nuke shit with infinite ammo

[placid spade]

I gonna think of SW/Maxwell + Noir

She could make their burst skill become 4-6 shot

But we know, it never happen anyway

[whole mountain]

Time to tell @velvet berry to start Noir mega thread in research

[placid spade]

Only when official news out lol

#datamine message
Should I change for posting seperated BGM each for whatever reason?

[merry shoal]

S2 Reload as in ammo refill right like power?

[placid spade]

Seems to be increase by flat value instead of %

I'm cooking now

[honest crane]

yeah

but not 100% like she has

[merry shoal]

If its team tho thats still great

Wait i guess itll fuck with dorothy tho

[coarse patio]

https://twitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1658759372481208320 in the preview for blanc they have all the bunny characters + frima

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en)

【NIKKE Motion Demonstration】

Blanc uses AR: White Pollux.

#NIKKE
#Blanc

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does that mean frima will get the next bunny skin?

[digital cloud]

no, frima probably just has some event dialogues and is a bonus nikke again

[placid spade]

Frima there is just filtered out b3

They doesn't have a gut to put Alice

[obsidian fern]

She looks mid. Burst is pretty useless outside shotgun comps (extremely niche) and her passives are decent but nothing that amazing. Using her over another burst III would be a trendendous damage loss. Not worth making Blanc's cooldown 20 seconds. Just use Blanc as a flex instead of the dedicated burst II.

[coarse patio]

they gonna make alice bunny?

[coarse ivy]

Meanwhile me being concerned if Weissritter will have the same pair mechanic

[hazy river]

So I dont have to pull for noir?

Both nice and not nice

[sweet tusk]

You don't have to pull for anyone that isn't a pilgrim

[hazy river]

Well thats confirmed another banner skipped I guess

Gonna wait for rosaline now

[sweet tusk]

With dorothy they pretty much confirmed that only pilgrims are gonna be universally good

[hazy river]

Buff for isabel surely

[coarse patio]

so is blanc going to kill novel?

[obsidian fern]

no

Blanc would be really good if she wasn't tied down by Noir. She can't be the dedicated burst II without her and including Noir kills your team damage

[coarse patio]

noir is that bad?

so blanc would be the solo pull?

and just use her as flex for heal and some damage increase?

[obsidian fern]

#1049651485086060584 message

It feels like needing Noir is how they balanced Blanc. Blanc would be crazy if she could provide 10 second invincibility to one character and that damage buff every 20 seconds. They make you give up a strong burst III to use Noir if you want that crazy survivability

[coarse patio]

whats wrong with that?

you run 1 B1, then blanc and noir, then 2 dedicated b3's

[obsidian fern]

dps is king. you can't clear stages if your dps is not high enough

[coarse patio]

you always run a "flex" anyway, but running blanc and noir basically does the same thing

blanc will take care of the healing and the damage increase buff is crazy

then just run scarlet modernia and ur good

[proven birch]

Good thing I got her from mold recently

[coarse patio]

im going liter, 2 bunny girls, scar modernia

[thorn oyster]

Yeah, I’d say it’s overall balanced from a design standpoint

[hazy river]

Having to pull both bunny girls for blanc to be good is kinda

[sweet tusk]

They don't want anything getting close to pilgrim status or launch status since they definitely messed up with the launch units if they were going for an everyone is niche route

[hazy river]

You mean with liter and our favorite bunny?

[sweet tusk]

They're balancing too late when we got plenty of girls that were real good at start

[sweet tusk]

Liter is definitely the biggest offender we got a new pilgrim 20 seconds burst 1 and she still isn't a definitive better then liter just equal footing

[thorn oyster]

Prob the only thing that would effect the balance of early units would be adjusting crit formula

[hazy river]

Make volume good you cowards

How does the crit formula work again?

[obsidian fern]

I'd say Dorothy will most likely be better than Liter in most situations after this update. Because ATK on her OL will now affect her burst. That's 44% more burst damage with 11% on each piece

[hazy river]

Could you roll for the same stat twice or more on one gear?

[obsidian fern]

and Dorothy's burst is where most of her damage lies

You're going to see Dorothy doing a lot more than before if she has a bunch of OL ATK

You can't.

You can't roll atk on the same gear twice

But you can roll it on all 4 pieces and it does stack that way

[hazy river]

Sad

But interesting to see it work like this

Man I cant wait to roll for atk

And then ammo ups

[sweet tusk]

I heard it's additive to the damage but attack is multiplicative when it's usually the other way around

[hazy river]

...attack up multiplies?

What the fuck

[whole mountain]

[velvet berry]

News to wait for official skills xD
Or at least an official leak

[coarse ivy]

even dumber idea: blanc, noir, and privaty, and then dorothy and dolla for more burst cooldown reduction

[hazy river]

this some funny shit

[signal cobalt]

that might be dumbest idea

considering noir gives ammo

best pairing is prob with mod

shotguns are too cope

[placid spade]

Flat ammount of Ammo

[signal cobalt]

prob b1 noir blanc scarlet mod

save alice for doro priv

[tulip onyx]

idk why shotgun team's getting so much attention
maybe since guilty arrived on scene
i want a sniper team

but i still don't have helm :3

[signal cobalt]

shotgun has always been cope

minus guilty

next UR is prob gravedigger though

[tulip onyx]

i should've brought that up in the survey, o well

[signal cobalt]

so not cope for that specific boss

LULE

[sweet tusk]

I like shotguns but they aren't really much good outside of bosses since every stage will have enemies hiding in the back whether it starts that way or they run back there

[green shadow]

and core hit bonus higher now for SMG I think

[green shadow]

wrong

wait

wrong reply

[green shadow]

wrong

she is Drake but better, but the problem is not there

S2 allows more shots during burst/Liter buff

Burst allows more core hits (mainly Scarlet and SG)

and S1 is PERMANENT as long as she has high HP

unlike other units

she would be 6/10 alone

but the problem is not there

it's Noir+Blanc combo which is 10/10

lol

Blanc gives too much

damage taken, shield, heals

immunity

[hazy river]

worth it pulling blanc alone?

she still look extremely good

[green shadow]

I dont think Blanc even works without Noir

[hazy river]

hmmm

well

I guess I'll wait a bit

whoops

read blanc again

it is her burst that does so much

well shit

[tulip onyx]

sub at best without noir

[hazy river]

at least they're not really a must

[whole mountain]

Please keep it about datamine discussions, before it derails again

[nocturne skiff]

more excited about new datamine stuff then the bunnies

[vital slate]

Where blanc skills?

[sweet tusk]

What datamine stuff we don't have any of that in our well behaved server

[sweet tusk]

Go to #ark-news

[proven birch]

what new stuff

[nocturne skiff]

that will be palced int he client for the miners to dig up

[vital slate]

Looks like a good healer but requires Noire to work and Noire isn't... Good so skip

Really depends on that dmg taken multiplier

[sweet tusk]

I'm rolling for both anyways because bunnies plus i imagine she can make pvp hell

It already is hell but why not make it even worse

It's so hell the guy that tops most of the leader boards in my server is only diamond 6

[proven birch]

Noir is good tho

she's just not S tier

she's atleast A especially with the mag buff and ammo regen

[tulip onyx]

she's alright if u run shotgun team and didn't get door3 i guess

[proven birch]

She's gonna be potential meta for GD

and potentially train

[primal seal]

We have Noir skills?

[bright sphinx]

@primal seal

[primal seal]

Thanks

[vital slate]

I already kill GD

Either it's a SG user like Guilty which is crazy good support, or else I don't care

Literally SGs only purpose is kill grave digger and outside of that, if their kit ain't SSS+ Tier, it's not getting into any team

[zealous hazel]

GD cheese where?

[whole mountain]

here #1059468005911830558

[magic fiber]

Blanc works in pvp

[sand crown]

Look really promising

[sweet tusk]

Running sugar noir and drake for triple shotgun comp

[wooden marten]

I hope nero will be playable and complete the animal helper kit

Liter = Power
Biscuit = Survival
Nero = Speed? (ASPD & Reload Speed)

Cuz looking at the S1 of blanc we got 0 ASPD party buffers

[whole mountain]

[dawn lake]

Hmm Blanc wouldve been busted even if she was 40cd well, even tho she still will be great in 1-2-2-3-3

[sand crown]

Just 12333 and have noir as buffer no burst

Noir s1 s2 great buff

[dawn lake]

nah i want only Blanc also no gems to pull on Noir banner as well

[whole mountain]

Guys

#1059468005911830558

Unless datamine discussions

[shy ember]

Finally! A Burst 3 Tetran!

[sweet mesa]

Geez yet another #1049391578357190697 entry I guess

[placid spade]

10 FKING HOURS TO UPLOAD TO MEGA AND ONLY GET 2GB UPLOADED

[azure horizon]

💀

[placid spade]

I upload by seperate file so that I can update more

[keen temple]

Are you using dial up modem 56kbps?

[velvet berry]

Why tf do we have blacksmith in SR

That's insane

Cuz fucking he has one shot attack

[daring gazelle]

I think the ISP detected him uploading so it limited his bandwidth

[azure horizon]

Pc client needs to be updated but its not available yet smh

Yall gonna have to wait some more for previews

same goes for android

[wooden marten]

Who knows... maybe SR blacksmith has circles....

We can only wait and pray

[placid spade]

The skin is encrypted file?

[azure horizon]

ofcourse

[noble roost]

I just got the update on android

[placid spade]

What's Rupee ID again

[azure horizon]

200

c200_01 is what we need

got android update letsgooo

god bless singapore

😆

[placid spade]

@azure horizon Have fun

[azure horizon]

[placid spade]

Ok, got the correct file

[azure horizon]

2.6gb hmmm

should be fine then

[placid spade]

I gave the specific file there, have fun

[nova coyote]

Everytime update = time to reinstall the game

[azure horizon]

dont need the icon until im swapping but thanks

[nova coyote]

[azure horizon]

why do u make it harder for yourself

just delete the folders instead

[nova coyote]

Bcuz im ios..

[azure horizon]

reinstalling is unneccesary effort

[nova coyote]

[azure horizon]

still can do it with a pc

[nova coyote]

Phone malder since day 1

Everytime new update = me searching for crown keywords in this chat

[tulip onyx]

why is new launcher doro not the gameburst one

[nova coyote]

Hope to see her in the game files

So i can skip other units

[noble roost]

update got pushed to PC too

[noble roost]

somehow mine is 3.7gb

[nova coyote]

See the box of chips below?

[velvet berry]

We already have this
Send her shooting

[nova coyote]

Thats all ur gems commanders

[velvet berry]

Also I can't believe they're adding this in a 12+ game

[nova coyote]

[tulip onyx]

3718.73 MB

[placid spade]

I don't have spine viewer

And I don't even have her sprite atlas

[tulip onyx]

she doesn't have a spine for you to view

as u can tell

[azure horizon]

just sit tight for 10 mins

and keep an eye on datamine

[nova coyote]

Volume gonna drop us smth

[naive linden]

12+ in length

[nova coyote]

[strange wolf]

Her forearms and lower legs are so thin

[azure horizon]

EVERYTHING IS RENAMED
AGAIN!!!!!!!!

fuck these devs

[strange wolf]

BRUH

[nova coyote]

[daring gazelle]

Thats what I honestly expected

[azure horizon]

they had fixed it dude

at this point its purely to throw off mods and datamines

[tulip onyx]

👀

[daring gazelle]

Considering their new stance against datamine, I'm prepared for to hear that.

[tulip onyx]

dam i called it too

volume shrimp to the rescue