#Datamine Discussions
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CBT?
Yeah she was on the first Nikke Trailer she was supposed to be the 3rd Character but got replaced by Anis
(Thank god)
I mean
She'd overlap with Marian with that look
Also that crotch part is a no no for 12+ rated game
I still hope Idda doesn’t get Scrapped
Too similar looking to chastity belt
idk why but her old face looks better then the new one maybe because its low res
Inb4 she gets the green light
Honestly if that’s the case they could just bring back the old design
This is her old design
She looks like a mixed of Privaty and Centi
I wonder what's her personality
Anis is perfect for the trio dynamic
Anis is the balance between Rapi's overly serious no-nonsense attitude and Neon's outlandish behavior
Doubt
Lets not stray far from topic but she can easily be a sidegrade to lap

get off my screen ryan !
Is good means free train on your language?
what a nice standard 
That looks horrific so probably fake as hell
Her right hand is not even colored
Doesnt match the shadow, the shadow have cuff at hand, no jacket and her boobs fills all ( no protrude part at the suit's chest )
Some chinese fb group share this and claim it was real
kekw
That’s a mod
Ah okay
And at looks low quality Asf
True
Man that youtuber guy must starved for content if hes posting fake shit 
Desperate times man
Should we make a list of ppl we should warn not to trust
do it
It just those 3
Daily Nikke
Nikkeleak
Lock & Waifu (Sefhi)
That looks like shit lol
Bunny girl, still have coat
Who the fuck greenlit this
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Almost 500ms
Actually i saw him ask is it real at the group, but then the guy there claim it was
And why did his dumbass believe him
@placid spade @plucky cargo @signal cobalt @keen temple
First of all the ears are too long

2nd of all it doesn’t even look like she’s wearing a jacket
And the hair doesn’t even match
And now it’s gonna spread because one buffoon wanted to believe another Buffoon and thinks it’s real
Kek
The group previously "leaks" are all legit
But still i hope for a more "traditional" style of bunny girl, if viper bunny is all covered up ill be so disappointed but i think viper bunny is the next sexy skin of the month ( helm , dolla , centi )
Gacha rule #1: collab units can never be meta
Who cares, even if they make her worse than crow you are going to c7 her so WHO CARES 
Do we know what element Dorothy is needa stock pile from arena shop
Oh I was assuming more like 1500 or something lol, guess it depends on how much you're gonna level her skills
I think the sum is like 720 for the burst and 360 for a S1-S2 to get to level 10? Still, yeah, best to wait.
What's the red box?
12 hours of surprise ( resources )
Might not be finalised yet, the 2 yellow box are both written burst skill manual which i think might be wrong, should be 1 skill and 1 burst
They must be trolling now
Might be intern kun translate wrong or maybe SU just know we wanna dorothy burst up so just gave us all the manual
Also, the boobs part doesn't even matched 
That dude has a history of being lurker here
They responsible for all the leak spreading that shiftup have to put anti leak notice
So we have to restrict
Now intern kun will do for us instead 
not all heroes wear capes
some are sitting in front of computer 
jk, man intern fucked up again 
So we're going to get the SSR loli on the 5th day?
Yea, and the copies in the event
Interesting.................
Welp atleast now I can finally climb THE WALL
Been waiting since release day
What is this countdown close
Daily login bonus
Day 1 actually, from mail
Ei!!! Congratz and thanks the devs being so generous for the half anni
Oh right. @rigid berry bro sorry, miss info. That's one of the spare bodies.
Yeah true. Their generosity is the reason why I can finally climb THE WALL now. So I'm extremely hyped for this update.
So
Rei is like Neve or himeno then?
One we get from login
3 we get from event?
Quite similar, yes.
One in mail 2 in event and one more login
Except she's an SSR
Bigger than Anis's booba?
Not that big
The best time to ask ur homie to play too, but nt sure if they can finish the event for the rei spare bodies
Name checks out. I'm more of a Rapi guy.
I'd be disowned if I tell my homie to play this
One of my teammates already returned to the game. The other one is too traumatized/pissed due to the game's gacha.
Won't it still take like a month to get all the copies of rei? Sure, people will break the wall if it's their last one, but it won't be quick
Then maybe they aren't real homies. Homies never disown you. They beat your ass up and straighten you out but NEVER disown you.
Yeah that's true
He would beat my ass up
But he can't 
I would rather wait for a month than have uncertainty due to this game's cursed gacha
I wouldn’t thrust gacha hell upon my worst enemies let alone friends
Ain't THAT a predicament.
Also, this
yeah, it pays to be patient. I just passed the wall last week and I've played everyday since release. And thankfully 4 / 5 lb3s were meta
Congrats on climbing THE WALL. Pretty sure this game's ONLY real wall is the 160 wall.
Once you climb it, the entire game literally unlocks for you.
thanks.
What’s climbing the wall?
5 MLB?
That took me a week
The only good water users are all elysion
Like I hit the wall and a week later bam
We're F2P/dolphins mate. Pls ignore us.
Also if I’m reading the stuff right, 3 rei is just 2*
Unless the free 3 rei doesn’t count the login one

They mentioned rei and then plus 3
Either you used the secret technique called "The Credit Card Swipe" or you just lucky as fuck.
So I assume you can MLB her if they had to mention three extra on top
I swipe but not as much as others
Free rei doesn't count. Atleast thats what I heard.
Called it.
Yep, you a whale
Dorothy
I swiped but just once
Also, viper is tetra
Insta regret
I always feel dirty swiping lmao
Now I developed the iron will to NOT SWIPE
Poli is missilis
As you should. You making F2Ps look bad
More output than rupee 
I spent 12 bucks. I almost bought the starter pack or whatever in the store to get the last dupe for Yuni to break the wall, but gave it another week and got her in a friend pull
xD poli is very usable
No she isn't.
True
I wish the liberation units would get alts without their prison stuff
Like guilty is free but she’s still chained up
Jackal and Viper makes my hormones go into overdrive, for some reason.
That's mihara
Feral enough to ||hold her head and deep throat her?||
Better treat jackal with respect, headpats and good food
Ofcourse. Definitely headpats and good food. Headpats at the back of her head and good food in the form of liquid food. Easy to swallow.

I read that as he would eat your ass

i told my homie to install the game and do my dailies when i went on vacation without wifi/data
Go eat some grass
touching aint enough for you
My man, you've been overexerting yourself again. Get some rest.
some people wanna lose elevated access it seems like 
hmmm

@modern harness
Never seen a Playboy Bunny in your life haven't u?
Will this mean Mast will be voice acted by her friend Ironmouse?
Finally, we get the official translation
Although I don't really mind getting some Vshojo girls Voice Acting some future Nikke
I mean if we got Amanda Lee
Why not them?
Holy shit... That Multiplier
So both S2 and burst are distributed
that makes s2 pretty meh against a large group of enemies if it's being split too much
Finally, Alteisen and Graveyard Digger will be easy. 
Aiming? Forget that it’s doro time
I still want to know what happens if the branded target dies before the 10 seconds are up
Well no Sherlock, she won't work with Alteisen
If you've seen her Gameplay you'll know why
Actually she should be very good against train
it takes more than 10 seconds to die
If you burst ahead of time 10s is more than enough to reach the missiles and turret
but dps is just one part of the problem. You need some way to survive if you can't kill everything immediately. Nobody is saying she's an "I win" button.

She is good against Train.
but she does do increased part damage and gains pierce. That will help massively for anyone lacking damage
I have Makima.
I'll be good by then. Gonna test her out once she drops.
You have to brand the enemy in a specific location, you then have to attack it, you only have time for that when you're in range of Fire of the first parts. And It doesn't take 10 seconds, after 10 seconds It explodes but takes 3-5 seconds to explode
Brand applied to boss also applies to all parts.
It was in the highlight stream.
You can burst before the train is off screen at the beginning
Doesn't change my point
Ye 50% damage boost against parts too.
Will be so good against Train.
Laplace murdered Chatter thanks to bonus part damage, so I'm defo interested with her pierce+part damage boost
She will be good against most bosses.
As long as your DPS doesnt exceed the 8900 cap.
You have to burst on the left side of the parts because you won't be able to do It on time for the parts on the right (at least at the start), so you're bursting against the left parts to eventually die to the right parts. They have this calculated to make Sakura work with him, not the rest.
Because if they do, Liter is better.
Liter Will still dominate on train
No?
Will see the tier list by then.
You know you can hold the burst right?
i dont even use sakura just dps and win
On what world do you must burst at the start
You know if you hold the burst until right parts are targeteable you're dead before It explodes right?
Because you know
Huh?
Takes almost 15s to explode
U dont need the explode for it
Shes good cus of her S1
Lol
Its not the explode
The explode is good but
Thats not why she is good for train
The explode affects parts as individual enemies
It does
Yes but it doesnt matter here
Since that means 8900% is spread between 7 units
I think if the Brand applied to the Train's center mass, the NUKE that will go off will damage all turrets
6 parts + 1 body
we'll see when she releases but I bet she's good against it
Her S1 will definitely clear the s out of train parts.
8900 : 7 = 1200ish base damage of Dorothy
Its as good as Scar wipe
It's like ST Burst
Kind of
Actually worse
Since Scar has 120% attack
Lol
Dorothy is made for most bosses that dont require cover healing.
Even against those that requires, you can slap Biscuit to make her a DPS as well
Don't.
Reminder that Biscuit's Burst is giving steroid and sustain to Supporter
Biscuit is... bad for DPS.
Biscuit is also 40s so idk if it’s worth that
She has 50% dmg buff on parts
Biscuit is for survivability.
Such as against Nihil.
There is a copium alternative witb Folk+Biscu.
We Will see then
I never use Folk lel. I don't even know what's her gimmick
That's still level 10 skill
Also chat in The Eden.
Bruh, if you combine her with Modernia, geeeeeesh

Sorry sorry. It just went like that. Will try to stay on topic next time.
we have #1059468005911830558 too the new elevated access chat if you wanna join us
no no i know about the functions of both chat channels. Its just that the situation kinda went in that direction. Dont worry, i shall be more wary next time. Off topics shall be yeeted to #1059468005911830558
Huh new elevated access?!
How to joinnn
Oh the eden
you are already in here
does Countdown close means something ?? or just login event
just the login event

Eos on 27th
You mean Shiftup $$$$$$ on the 27th
Liter still best b1 for campaign
If you need instant buff damage then Liter is still superior. Dorothy needs you to survive 10 seconds before the bomb detonates
Also Dorothy performance went worse on stages with multiple enemies
Yeah because good luck surviving lazor enemies for 10 seconds lol
She is really good for boss stages tho
But if you need to kill stuff really fast then Liter still #1
Pray that boss doesnt spam missiles or else ur dmg gets divided 
I think she performs well on UR as an off team/2nd team
I don't get this tho. Doesn't it detonate her burst after it ends ?
It detonates 10 seconds after she B1s
So you will probably be dead by then against multiple lazor enemies.
Nah I don't get it. I think it's a 10s burst time. The moment the burst ends the mark detonates
Yeah Dorothy couldn’t deal the final blow Grandma still stands but she’s weakened
Cus guy delayed full burst
Imaginw you accidently marked a mob, you think the dmg will be high?
Honestly Tim kinda overhyped Dorothy a little but that’s what alot of first impressions do
U see circle is already half gone by the time fbm starts
Yeah, Liter still best b1
Dorothy is still a must have unit in my opinion
Yeah Dorothy will shine in those stages
Both T0
It’s just one is better than the other on certain things which is fine
But some tierlists would probably put her at T0.5
But people overhyping her to the point that she pushes Liter completely down another Tier which isn’t the case here
Highly agree
I think it's safe to say she's 2nd best b1 in certain situations
She'll be a must have for me if I can clear SI Alteisen with her 
I wouldn’t say she’s the 2nd Best both of them are virtually tied
So we should be putting them both to bed
I mean the 68% atk buff is still better no?
Like an orderly tucking in granny

- cover repair

I still think Liter t0, Dorothy T0.5
Cuz having quick high dps is better than wait for goddamn 10s
Omega walking in to this chat gonna be like 
For boss?
Campaign in general
Oh campaign liter def better
Yeah I’d still use Liter on Campaign
omega or rimuru
quickly talk about datamine stuff to hide it 
How should I do final layout?
yes I see it, now go to #1059468005911830558 and let Dorothy lock this chat
Display name, stats?

i was summoned frfr
#1059468005911830558 of to eden with y'all off-topic variants

glban
do you guys think dorothy > liter for nihilister fight?
come join #1059468005911830558
anyway..does julia's squadmate ever get leaked before?
GUYS
can we just spread the news about how She's not likely gonna be 2% banner ????
The leaked patchnote by Intern-kun was VERY likely a template text which he inserted the the Dorothy name
and 2% was used for every other nikkes anyway
In the same leaked notes, there is the line that says " After the Special recruitment js over, Dorothy will be available from Regular recruitment, Mold, and Frienship banner "
Which is a dead giveaway that that's a template text with Dorothy name in it.
I'm already forseeing ppl going apeshit because it's " Nerfed % " from the leaked info
Nah
Ok you're definitely correct
Leave it be
It feels like you are very correct
I know it'll be 1%
So I can just write
"Just fyi
Dorothy is probably 1% banner and will not be in friendship pulls, she'll be in the same pool as other pilgrims"
Sure
Just add 'don't get your hopes up' as well
thank u, my dude
ppl will rage over anything minor thats not " the same " as leaked
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tMX9MIp1qtqwJuKCZv1tm8FHnq43fpw7zfJx44pSqO0/edit?usp=drivesdk
Campaign monster lists, note that I haven't included the stats cuz I don't have access to pc to import the file
Stage infomation
Stage Select,7-9 HARD STAGE,Rec Cp,160700
Target,Image,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Name,Bronchus,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hp
Atk
Def
Subtarget,Image,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Name,Elite Screamer,Elite Bronchus,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hp
Atk
Def
Soldier,Image,,,,,,,,,,,,
Name,Skimmer,Lure,Disc,Fez,Remnant,Scimitar,,,,,
Btw do we know shooting range defence stats
100
I'm lazy to port that
No way, surely it's higher
They're very tanky
Or do they just have a shit ton of hp
I see
How many copies of Dorothy are needed?
For a supporter, 1 is enough ig
1 for niche
MLB for more cp if using in arena/story as main unit
11 so you can max core her bc waifu
and also those now become #1059468005911830558 topic, so please go on there
who knows
I just want 2B, A2 and Commander
I just want crown
depending on what game they agreed on collab
I assume it's just nier automata, not including replicant and others
Automata since they used the same gear logo
reincarnation has same logo style
the difference is just the i
but my guess is automata too
biggest moneymaker and most wished one
Very obvious pick yeah
has union raid lineup been released yet?
no
Guess this is punishment for datamining 
only 2B and A2 (and 9S) are the protagonists but there's some popular side-characters, like the operators, the commander, the twins (the red-haired ones)

Nikke and automata use the same exact gear logo on the 'i'
They were more restrict on updating the hidden files
ye, no more assets leaking
I just want Commander playable bcus I love her desing
Then i guess it's only 2 that playable, with copium A2 is free SSR 
We all know 2B is obviously gacha material

Nah it’s gonna be 3
The Commander is most likely the 3rd character
If it’s NiER Automata
If they just whatever mixed and match which I don’t see the case then Kaine would probably be the 3rd character
I dont think they are going to include Kaine with this collab, maybe a 2B skin
9S will most likely make a cameo like how Denji did in CSM
I really hope this collab comes with skins
Then it’s 2B, A2 and Commander
The twins aren’t coming because it would weird to have just 1 and not the other
I’m hoping the make the free Unit an SSR
same
Hmm
I dont mind if the free unit is mid/bad, being a SSR already helps to new players
Based on her design and brief reading on wiki..is she like inggrid in nier universe?
Well Rai/Rei is pretty good
kinda, yeah
Please Shiftup don’t waste this opportunity to not put the commander in the game
Plus she has a great design
Hmm.. Let's see then, if so then she's going to be the free one
Commander still is a android, so she is capable of combat
Most likely unless they make A2 free
She’s basically the boss 😂
Aka the leader
I know, but some people thinks she isnt capable of combat for being all the time in the base
like the operators
I seen a lot of people who actually want her to be in the Nikke as well
there's a lot of people waiting for her to be playable in Nier;Reincarnation
she's really popular (but not at the level of 2B or A2)
Which would work perfect for her if she’s the free unit (SSR hopefully)
SR 
hey what manufacturer is rey? the pinguin dudette?
Tetra
Smh Spencer
thanks, what are her first impressions, she strong?
Shes cute
Pretty good as welfare f2p unit
Nothing over the top but that’s to expect out of a f2p unit
she's a a taunter that uses a substitute that heals itself. not sure how good she will be but still. a free mlb ssr is pretty cool for most players
i heard that they wont introduce the nier collab till the 2nd half of the year
is that true
10cent mods asleep
yet another fucking retard
despite people saying not to post it on official places
over and over
Reddit gold or likes , it is whatever ... but lets move to #1059468005911830558
Disgusting behaviour
Of course it's the retarded plebbitors
Where did these retards get those things from anyway?
We already closed the gate with elevated account system
it's just nikke db's live 2d visualizer
Ah, I'm not well versed in the tools
Probably they are in the union with a leaks channel
did you saw my dm
🤔
Btw, I can leak about event infomation during maint, cuz the patch usually 1-2 hrs after maint started
And it's really easy to read the file on pc version, cuz you don't need to decrypt
Please do
Oh btw
Do you know when maint start?

its 5h before reset time on the 26th for me
Asian country?
Oh, found it on tw patch, 1100 at +9
27th?
26th April 11:00 PM?
@vernal yachtwhat time and day are u on?
GMT+7
Basically 1 hour behind JST
27th April 10:00 AM ~ 13:00 PM my time
so if it starts on 00:00 of the 27th it should be on the 26th 23:00 for u
<t:1682604000:F>
im going based on the leak for the update that the intern released
Huh
more like noon as always
7h maintenances have been like that
thats ur time
following this
Expected maintenance period: 11:00:00 – 14:00:00, April 27, 2023 (UTC+9)
jp time is always 12h ahead for me so its easy
UTC+9 is 1 hour ahead of me
wait its actually this <t:1682560800:F>
Ain't no way it's 10:00 PM
So I will have to wait till April 28th to get my waifu
Now this is the correct one
i put 14 instead of 2
like i said
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
Only people who played the game aside from ass know that Wild Dog reference
TIME CRISIS
Fr tho
125%
Definitely
100% there is one
7h maintenance minimum
25% for an extension over the extension
He has
TC5 is like a plot of MGR lmao
TC4 is the peak moment

When you guys were saying TC3, TC4 and stuff, my mind was saying "Town Centre 3", "Town Centre 4" and I was wondering why the crap were you guys talking Age of Empires terms
Time Crisis lmao
Oh, that game
I remember playing those in arcades
They deliberately set gamemode to hard where you have a set amount of lives
Yeah
Arcade do be like that. It's why I find playing the PC ver using emulator to be too easy when it's defaulted to normal
Uhhhhh
About that
The one with bunnysuit recently?
Never touched that game
No. Keep in mind, I said "BA"
You’re welcome. Here’s the official.
BA = Blue Archive
I know
🐑?
Which is which channel again?
Eden for post?
what is this channel fkr againM

Datamining the PC port during maint is what I'm waiting for
I wonder what'll be in
Wrong
Discussion about TC lmao
Then BA
Pc version nikke is ez to datamine, don’t share about it cause dev will encrypt it 
I mean
Good thing we locked this place with elevated system
link i'm actually interested
I have those files still from the beginning of the channel, but I’m not sure if you ever updated the instructions.
thx
Regarding pulling Audio files*
It’s about staticdata file lol 

https://github.com/Perfare/AssetStudio/releases this is the repo?
is there a new version
Use that one
Cuz you don’t need to use falzar’s decrypt file
Would this work with pulling sound bins and audio files?
At least it give you some advantage of which boss we gonna suffer on solo raid 
thats what im interested in lol
No, that’s from different library
I premade these 2 for future update 
Wasn’t that mother whale one of solo raid they showed in jp stream
looks like they deleted the arca preview page of dorothy with her face expression .gif
has anyone them and can send me? thx
No wonder intern-kun took so much heat and why people were getting the muzzle
any info on viper skin?
i need a glimpse of what perfection looks like 
Too close to the sun and you will burn
Viper skin is part of the May pass, after the update in a few days they'll probably datamine a picture of it
Go to #1059468005911830558 guys
Ye, devs redesign her and now she is black viper

guy went out to find the most pixelated picture in the web
Someone leak
Modernia skin
could you clarify what classifies as topics allowed to talk here or talk in #1059468005911830558? since im a bit confused on which is allowed and whats not
unless this channel is for only stuff thats posted in #datamine and other leaks/datamines are in eden
In doubt just speak in Eden
For example what got officially announced can go to #1059468005911830558 , whats still not announced either looks of viper skin modernia or UR bosses can stay here , or if you wanna talk about older units that didn't got released like crown etc go here or the eden , see the other chat as a bit more openly free relaxed channel. If you wanna talk etc. See this more as a serious discussion thread
ahh gotcha, so officially announced stuff go to eden, but unreleased/unannounced here
lol everyone raging @ the nero thing on reddit when nero isnt even a leak
everyone already forgot bow wow paradise or something
reddit is full of people who rage at every little thing
Where? The post is full of neuron activated people which is.... Okay?
i mean in this discord
scroll down from here
That’s close but fake. And why are they trying so hard to hide it? It’s coming out at 27 either way! Are they going to keep it out from that update too?
Too lewd apparently
more like they might need to do some modification juz in case XD they dun want another xrupee incident on their hands
Fucking true, I would flip the table if that happened again. And I’ll not buy the pass
No, its for youtube, they had to do the same with soda tits for the maid event pv
kobe bryant referene
that's what i tought too
they do silhouette so it doesn't get demonitzed
but I think they're just being chicken shits. There's no chance it's lewder than stuff Azur Lane has released and they have no problems showing them on the stream and twitter
Tamaki's skin following soda's XD
They have to be more careful now because Quency teaser got shot down by twitter
And marie rose's l2d is damned dangerous
welp..it doesn't matter for me as long in game is not affected
did soda's get shot?
soda's booba got censored by plate if not mistaken
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13na00Rwz7OBtc_X6WEVudBU40co0thUeQW7LEv8pJdw/edit?usp=sharing
Finally sorted the dialogues, so here you go
Bond Story
Bond Story Number,Dialogue Number,Dialogue
01,Title,Meeting
01,1,After managing to suppress Nihilister,
01,2,I stayed at Eden for a while and helped Cecil and Johan with their work.
01,3,Zing
01,4,I heard the news.
01,5,You're planning on leaving to track down Nihilister?
01,6,That...
we just dont know who says what but that much should be fine
Pretty funny how ppl think viper skin wasn't shown because too lewd for public
It's likely they just wanted to avoid shitstorm during livestream because goddess of coats
Ayo doomposting
silhouette doesnt show a coat 
I still say she will look like blanc 
imagine viper coming out w/ a kobe bryant uniform
ok but why did Dorothy ult show her ass
Nikke is inconsistent with this shit ever since they redesigned K and did the Makima change
No it doesn't
I'm saying why are we expecting coats when this exists
They're inconsistent so we can't know
pilgrim special treatment obviously
They did both over the course of the game now
if you aren't a pilgrim in this game, you basically in the trash can
dorothy flashes her ass > people will pay money to get her because of it > due to the low af % compared to other units it will take more gems/money to get her > profit

atleast thats my take
Ok but Viper is also very popular as shown by the votings
as lunar said, shes not a pilgrim
we arent talking about skins
i kid you not almost all pilgrims will have 0 censorship
They're really going out of their way to make Dorothy a big seller.
I honestly won't be surprised if she shits all lover Liter for team damage. The devs would honestly test this to ensure Dorothy is better because if she is, word of mouth will make more people want her
watch her nuke be able to crit and she does ridiculous damage
A 40k atk Dorothy is calculated to 3.5 million with her nuke. She can do this every 20 seconds. With a 180 second fight, 3.5 million every 20 seconds is 31.5 million. 40k is also without atk% from OL. If you factor that in, with 4 pieces, it's probably closer to 60k for 5.3 million. That'd be 48 million in 180 seconds. A well invested Scarlet and Modernia (with Liter) do around 60-70 million in 180 seconds to give a comparison. This is all assuming she can't crit or do extra damage to fire.
True Ken
Plus Viper is basically fully covered and she’s still hella popular
Ass and piece of cloth isn’t everything
This community is old of the most mentally unstable communities I seen
Like bruh
i cant think of a single thing they censored since christmas rupee
Rapunzel is censored though according to the “censorship” community
People consider being changed from a datamine = censored. I personally don't. It's not a censor unless it changes after release. Pre-release, they're free to make any changes they want.
More or less have been uncensoring things and people still cry
Makima wasn’t censored at all but people bullied the devs into taking off her iconic coat
They gonna do the same with 2B when she has a skirt and they’ll lose this time 
That's why I said they're inconsistent
Unlike Makima the only people who are advocating for it are the omega horndogs
Most people are just happy 2B will be in the game
The same people who made christmas rupee made redesigned K and gave Making a coatless option
Which makes me think they want to give us more of the later
but can't with every character for reasons we can only speculate about, probably china related
It's the same reason Genshin retroactively went back to censor older characters but didn't do anything to newer ones
From what I understand CCP Supervision is actually very clueless unless they specifically get told about things
makima ass looks the same with and without coat thats my hot take
Hence why it can differ per character
I’m pretty sure most of the characters moving onwards that are in #datamine will not be censored
Youoyoyouoo
Her ass looks bigger actually with coat

What makes u say that?
They might change some shooting poses but that’s about it
There’s only have been 1 censorship so far when the time the game released
If anything we’re probably gonna get more redesigns for some characters
Like Nero, Moran and K
Yea Nero is a good example too
Redesign summer neon to Anis
Old Nero was too bland. They need to spice her to make her more appealing

she's like 99% more lewd then she was
There’s a good chunk of people who wanted the old Nero
I could see that happening to other unreleased characters if they look a bit too generic
I would say that's a very small minority
whats the deal with 2B anyway? is it because she is wearing a blindfold and people are into kinky shit?
Same with Morgan
Yes and yes
2B was designed to be heavily sexualized. The creator of Nier specifically demanded for her ass to be what he considers to be perfect
And ass
Morgan and Nero redesign prove one of their earlier statements tbh
And yes
There’s nothing wrong with 2B it’s more like there’s omega horny people who want her without a skirt

Which I don’t see happening
We thought they were bs'ing but it's clear they're doing it for character resigns
Since Morgan and Nero redesigns went into opposite directions
Nero getting more lewd and Morgan more covered
during a collab who gets more money, nikke or the collab company?
or is it like they pay a set amount to the rights?
Unless YT pushes hard enough for skirtless 2B I don’t see her being skirtless
Depends on the contract. I asume it's mostly royalties.
wdym? They censored nero, i cant see her palms anymore
They probably didn't want another overly serious character since Sakura is pretty serious herself. A better dynamic is serious and goofy, which is what Moran is
YT is the only one that can pursue them
so then nikke devs can do whatever they want
Unless the community works together like with Makima
No chance. The skirt is part of her signature clothes
Skirt Off skin 
Even in the game she doesn't run around skirtless
But yeah that’s what I’m saying
In almost every collab NiER has collab with it has been Skirt 2B
Since that’s her iconic outfit
But you know never say never with this community 
I would say there's a very large difference between a Makima without her suit and 2B without her skirt
and I doubt the devs would do it
Skirt on, mid collab unit, close to one year anniversary most likely. ez skip
Yeah it’s mainly the Uber horny please who want her without a skirt
I like Skirt 2B more than Skirtless 2B anyways
2B practically wears a thong. They're not going to show that. People are crazy to think otherwise.
True 
probably going to be a scarlet pose
im calling it now
Skirt and gun instead of a sword. I'm calling it. 
Even with 2b's skirt, I think you willgl get a glance at the goods
Eww Gun
They'll make the gun look like a pod
It's like how Dorothy has a skirt and u can still see her ass
And I also believe 2b going to get a gun. Only scarlet gets a sword
Im fine with certain collab characters having guns but most of them would just look silly
scarlet special treatment
Most collabs will get some kind of treatment
Since they want those collabs to sell
CSM is a trial collab in which they probably didn’t give 2 shiznits about
Plus them having a gun doesn’t look wrong compared to others
If their attitude towards CSM is any indication which one can argue is more popular than Nier, I have zero hopes for Nier
As long as 2b and 2a doesn't use sniper rifle or smg, then win for me
Csm is more popular than nier? Idk about that
CSM is probably more popular overall
We really only care about the gaming circle tho
And even in gaming circle Automata is only 7.5 million copies
which is a far cry from truly popular franchises
Just the gaming circle isn’t enough
GOW sells that number alone on one console
If that was the case we wouldn’t have gotten a CSM collab
7.5 million is pretty low for gaming standards
^
NiER isn’t even that popular in Japan compared to other series
2B is very well known though. Most people who have never touched Nier know of 2B
she's very iconic
Yeah people know 2B but not NiER
Like if 2B wasn’t in this collab this collab would probably make around 5 million give or take
I don't know what is Nier about, but I know who is 2B
Like I know vaguely 3 characters
2 girls 1 boy
yeah, like extreme hypothetical scenario where no Automata characters but only characters from the first Nier, the collab would be guaranteed flop. The Nier IP itself is not actually that popular.

Automata is a pretty old game too and it's been released on many platforms
5 years for 7 million
Plz no Sao. Who is the chars even going to be if it was sao?
But yeah NiER is carried by 2B
Kirito
Have to be female chars so can't be kirito
There's also gungale online they can take inspiration from
Most of their characters would sell
That arc is literally all about gun mmo
It was super niche until automota and even then it’s just the ass that sold lol
But SAO suck, this is my opinion from the one that watched all the seasons
I just played the games kek. Didn't even watch the show.
Ya, Sao got milked as much as possible
But I think NiER was mainly a suggestion because of a lot of niche audience wanted it
I say Sao isn't a good candidate
CSM appealed more to the casuals
what's gonna happen with the day by day event, to we get a new char?
or the event just ends?
Which is a difference
Nier was probably the most demanded collab for Nikke, especially since there was rumors of it for a while
Most casuals probably don’t even know what NiER is
Well I heard that if anything that got collab in gacha it must be Nier 
Although i dislike collabs in general, Nier was probably one of the few choices I could agree with. I've been seeing some push for Ryza and I'm just like "ew, no"
most suggestions are pretty awful.
CSM collab was dogshit let’s be real
The plot is bad, it was like nothing happened
regular events were more enjoyable
The CSM collab felt very rushed
Prob getting the inevitable DOA collab
now this I can get behind
The rewards are ok, but they are the same as usual event anyway
Literally and figuratively
Tbh most people don’t even know what collab whey want next after NiER
Since most people just wanted NiER
The DOA girls look weird in anime form
I’m not one of them though
I'm waiting for the EoS collab
Likely will be available for new players only. Ppl who been playing will just have it end
they look fine in AL
I could care less if NiER was a collab or not
Idk Azur lane did do them justice
Cuz Nier is the one that fits in terms of setting
Most collabs would just feel disjointed
Nyotengu was goddamn 
i mean 1 ssr every 6 months is not a lot
Well the thing with abnormal units are that they are not need to be a robot to be in the game, something like Guilty Gears can be good
GG is also a good idea
They lack appeal I feel. The transition doesn't really carry over their lewdness
Remember what fits doesn’t mean anything when it comes to collabs it’s what sells that matters
Don't matter, you already playing their game. U want more ssr, pull or pay
I mean, I'm not the one to gatekeep collabs because of settings. But I just remember so many complaining about CSM cuz "doesn't fit the game world".
Oh hell not Marie rose
I know of that. I actually own it but I don't think it's all that great
If we get a fantasy collab next don’t be mad
i don't really care about some free non pilgrim unit cause i already have core + on my main team, i'm just saying that will be nice
Aight cod collab is next get your genderbend ghost and captain price
Marie has a new skin with the rerun too. It was revealed this morning
Dizzy can be a sniper
My criteria has always just been "good units I pull, bad units skip" including for collabs
Because if we’re going about what fits most of Azur Lane collabs shouldn’t even happen
Except for like gridman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeCJJfOhTJo&pp=ygUOZGl6enkgdWx0aW1hdGU%3D and her burst can be
Guilty Gear Xrd REVELATOR Dizzy's Instant Kill
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New Marie skin
Anyway we should move to #1059468005911830558
damn i almost want to reinstall except the gameplay is dreadfully boring. i started AL during the first DOA collab too
Day to day is a catch up mechanic. If you already caught up or at least have a decent roster, you can't ask for more. Sure it will be nice but it's 100% unnecessary
They added tamaki to the collab too Mfs tryna drag me back
this one actually looks worse
well it was there from day 1, so it's a nice thing to have considering it ended at like lvl 30 tower lmao
generic artstyle
Agree, they need to release AL 2 or something
Just to keep it fresh
AL just wallpaper collecting simulator 
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AL is basically like wallpaper engine turned into a game lol
Realest sentence
It's a commander simulator for me. The only gameplay is outfitting and leveling the girls then they battle on their own with auto
manual in the game is ass to play


So question
Is the Alice skin going to be free or be in the “drum roll” mission pass
Not free
I know viper bunny skin will definitely be mission pass
It's either mission pass or the event mission pass
As f2p, I don't care which one it is😆
So double mission pass
its in the game notice
Yep. Chose which skin u want
are you a day1 f2p
More like week 1 f2p who got delayed since I got lazy rerolling
#1059468005911830558 please
alice is the event pass i believe those ones have special tickets
Not even eden. This is more like #questioning-centre 😆
Liter, Centi and Laplace would disagree with you
alice and maxwell
laplace 

ure not familiar with how strict the new anti-leak policy is, right?
even until now
no new leak has come out yey
That could be their gimmick
intern-kun has yet to finish his Viper model

That's mostly because they already datamined everything that was available in the game client. After the Dorothy update there's going to be new stuff. Especially the Viper skin should be easy since it's part of the same update it just won't trigger in game until May 1st
inb4 censor
bout I doubt
1% Dorothy 
thats cuz theres nothing new in the game files 💀
nothing is gonna stop ppl from datamining
especially if its the live client lol
Then release her
Yeah, didn't we get basically nothing new datamine wise since CSM? Like we knew of Biscuit/Sakura/D for a while
Shiftup why u uncensoring characters and not putting them in banner?
seems like they're going to update in batches
We got datamine for sakura/D. They went ham on leaks for what I assume is the half anniversary surprise. Only time will tell if they calm down once half anniversary is over
Did they shadow buff the Special Interception Bosses on the recent update? The Bosses hits like a truck now. Wt f.
These handlers never fail to amaze me.

We're not the only ones who benefit from better frame rate
I said it once here and I’ll say it again, her old design is much better, he new one is too much
just dont get hit

Ya, I'm going to agree as well. They could have made the new design a skin
It’s all about the money
More skin = more money tho
New Nero would make much more money than the old one
Or an entirely new character, it’s a waste design
Well all these old designs will become a distant memory moving forward
Nothing can you do about it when most of the community likes the new designs
No backing means shift up won’t care about our opinion
That's the one bad thing about being f2p. We go no voice since we are effectively boycotting every nikke
F2p players don’t really have an opinion because they aren’t contributing to the game outside of being download fodder
That’s just the reality
Yep, vote with your wallets. When you are f2p, you get no votes
It's pointless to complain about it because it was datamined info. You weren't supposed to know of the existence of the original to begin with
Characters often go through multiple revisions before they're finalized

This is a case of you seeing an older version
Showing more skin = Better design, that's just the Nikke fanbase in general.
f2p players be like "How dare they change/censor this $15 skin even though I was never going to spend money on it in the first place".
I didn’t get maxwells mission pass because the jacket covers her up more than the regular skin
Well, it's true none of the skins so far is just a straight-up improvement over the original. Most are just side-grades at best.



