Datamine Discussions

[vernal yacht]

Delay has no meaning if it drilled your ass

[wicked goblet]

How much is 8900%

[sleek helm]

100 is 8900

[vernal yacht]

More specifically Alteisen

[lyric comet]

blacksmith is already piss easy

[dawn lake]

Im literally shaking rn, so hyped

[vernal yacht]

You have Noah Makima Biscuit Sakura to deal with it by facetanking

You now have D and Dorothy to deal with it by nuking it to orbit

[vernal yacht]

Weird way to spell CB and Mod, but okay

[lyric comet]

those two as well

[sleek helm]

inb4 ShiftUp decides to add Nihilister as SI boss

On every Sunday

[lyric comet]

why not

[sleek helm]

More challenge for me

D + Dorothy proper use against Nihil

[wicked goblet]

Imagine bad timing the nuke goes off when the missle barrage is ongoing kek

[vernal yacht]

As long as her red circle isn't too tanky, I'm down

[wicked goblet]

The the dmg distribution is like so small hahaha

[vernal yacht]

Just don't let her red circle run out pepega

[wicked goblet]

That's why I said bad timing cause stuff can happen

[sleek helm]

You forgot how tanky is the Intercept S GraveDigger vs SI GraveDigger

[vernal yacht]

Nihil only does that when you fail interruption

[vernal yacht]

Pretty sure that's because a bug back then

[digital cloud]

int S is not level locked though

[sleek helm]

It scales with the HP tho so it is

[harsh sparrow]

[wicked goblet]

Wtf hahahahah

[sleek helm]

Real

Not edits

Yo wassup Tim

[stiff crag]

Kk thx

[sleek helm]

[lyric comet]

LMAO

[placid spade]

Also, use Dorothy skill on Mod
Both wing broke
Surprised Pikachu face

[sleek helm]

Not surprised

It's a double-edge sword

[digital cloud]

just time it LOOOOOL

[jovial jewel]

I’ll still use liter for modernia

[sleek helm]

The moment where I saw "applies to Boss Parts" is just--

"just survive bro, you have skill issue"

[velvet berry]

Yeah everyone except modernia, Dorothy should be good on

[velvet berry]

What a chad

[sleek helm]

Shitterbox

[wicked goblet]

And chatterbox

[sleek helm]

You break his head

You die

[wicked goblet]

He break yours

End of story lol

[velvet berry]

Yeah but part break isn't confirmed as of rn

The damage is distributed so I don't think his head will break

It may lower hp

But not break

[sleek helm]

Prolly

I mean

CB's head is chonky in HP

Hard to put that down unles bursted like the likes of D

[jovial jewel]

Yeah

[sleek helm]

Amplifying on your own demise

[digital cloud]

I’ve been on the verge of breaking cb’s head many times doing SI and towers, it’s not that chonky

[sleek helm]

Maybe just slightlyyyy above the HP of his Back Missiles

[icy relic]

hey so im confused about Dorothy burst as the max dmg of 8000% does that scale off of Dorothy own attack or does it scale off the dmg being dealt?

[lyric comet]

own attack

[sleek helm]

Scale off of her own attack

[icy relic]

So what im hearing is, duping Dorothy is the way to go

[pastel lichen]

Where Dorothy skills

[ripe dust]

Core 7 bait?

[signal cobalt]

People on Reddit saying liter is better cuz she can repair cover lol

[clever root]

^it is true, take boss Nihilister for example, you don’t need to bring another dps

Liter still offers role compression as she is buff+healer

[signal cobalt]

nihilister looks shitter compared to guilty I don’t even think about her

[digital cloud]

did anyone remember how dorothy’s burst targetting work?

[clever root]

I meant the boss Nihilister

[digital cloud]

does it target the highest atk or sth?

[placid spade]

Idk, the showcase literally drag the marking

[digital cloud]

oh so like rupee’s

[lyric comet]

it's like viper

same shit

[harsh sparrow]

iirc the marking affects boss parts so that's all i can kinda say

[lyric comet]

small circle

@digital cloud https://i.imgur.com/Hb3rBCZ.png

[digital cloud]

ok good, imagine if it’s a goofy ahh random targetting that affect adds during a boss fight

like how novel’s burst can do it

[icy relic]

yes nice, nikkes with survivability do good when the boss fight needs it

[obsidian fern]

nihil is the only fight where the cover repair feels mandatory or close to it. Cover gets destroyed almost instantly in most other cases

I think people overvalue it

[lyric comet]

don't think you care about cover on nihil if you bring a healer

[icy relic]

Yeah theres a lot of things where cover repair is negligable

some bosses just shoot through cover, once its broken cant repair, game is a DPS race already

Also I have a question

can you reroll on Dorothy banner? I don't think there was a clear requirement like Modernia banner?

[vernal yacht]

Elaborate

[trail mango]

and there wasnt either on modernia

hell Idont think even her char stories were locked

[icy relic]

Modernia you needed to clear chapter 14 to be able to roll on her banner

[trail mango]

because they only show her ||as a baby || nothing spoilerish

wut

?

[shy maple]

Thanks for this

[trail mango]

I dont recall that being the case

sec

[shy maple]

It's whatever, viper will probably be better

[obsidian fern]

The overzone event covers her back story

that will familiarize her with anyone not at chapter 20

it's a brilliant way to sell the character

[lyric comet]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[cunning dirge]

do we know if we need to attack that mark to store up the dmg or anywhere else is fine after we already marked the enemy.

[trail mango]

yep like I thought

[surreal egret]

holy shgit dorothy? I have 150k saving up

[trail mango]

it says nothing about ch 14

they would be dumb losing money because of people getting spoilers

lmao

besides you meet modernia before that

[surreal egret]

Fk you guys. Even if dorothy kill all my team like Soline I will still pull for her

[lyric comet]

well, you meet modernia at chapter 7

[surreal egret]

[lyric comet]

so it's kinda w.e

you just don't know why you can summon for her

[trail mango]

in fgo you can pull for chars that are deep in the story and they just cover their names

[merry shoal]

The dmg cap is 8900% of dorothy's atk stat

[whole seal]

Is dorthy worth a ticket?

[icy relic]

No skip

[merry shoal]

The s1 should still buff her burst dmg explosion right? Atleast on the boss parts

[wicked goblet]

yes

but really anything that also gives you atk% also should increase the cap

[vernal yacht]

So this is why she's a supporter...

She'd be fucking broken if she's an attacker

[placid spade]

https://youtu.be/2T1l3DpjxGc

Note, this is not a livestream

[pastel lichen]

12 hours

[magic fiber]

What kind of support that can bombard aoe 5 times during burst times with her skill 2 and it is 200% attack damage

[vernal yacht]

She's a support to prevent her from going nuts with those numbers

[lyric comet]

I wonder if her personal damage will be good enough to outweight the dmg buffs by liter

🤔

[merry shoal]

Its 200% split among the enemies

[vernal yacht]

Support has the middle ground stat of HP/DEF/ATK

[merry shoal]

So if 5 enemies its 40% dmg each enemy

[coarse patio]

So do we get rei at MLB right away?

[vernal yacht]

Do the event

[obsidian fern]

Liter's damage buff only lasts 5 seconds. Dorothy will be hitting all enemies for 200% every 2 seconds for 10 seconds after she bursts.

[lyric comet]

Yeah, but what if it's a single enemy

[obsidian fern]

It says all enemies

[lyric comet]

no no, I mean what if you're using her on a boss

that lowers her damage significantly, assuming no parts

cause you can use liter everywhere

[obsidian fern]

Liter could potentially be better if the boss doesn't have multiple parts for her brand to hit several simultaneously

[vernal yacht]

Reminder that Dorothy can be your UR B1 Liter replacement for your 2nd DPS team

[obsidian fern]

but Dorothy's last bullet reducing cd by 1.2 each time could potentially be better than Liter's reduction

[lyric comet]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. If in a boss fight where there are no other enemies and no parts if she can do more dmg to outweigh the dmg buffs by litter.

[obsidian fern]

I'm not sure how often she can hit that

[lyric comet]

I checked the stream and it takes around 6-7 sec for her to empty her mag

[vernal yacht]

Very often if you pair her with priv

[obsidian fern]

Dorothy looks to be more of a mob killer to me

[merry shoal]

Its not like that lol

The 200% is divided among the enemies

[lyric comet]

it was on last bullet wasnt it?

[obsidian fern]

■ Affects all enemies.
Deals 216% of ATK as damage.

Burst - Paradise Lost
20 seconds cooldown

■ Affects self.
Enters Expression Mode for 10 seconds and changes the cooldown of Baptism to 2 seconds.```

[vernal yacht]

She works on boss

[obsidian fern]

It's not divided. Her burst is what's divided

[vernal yacht]

Don't just focus on her 2nd skill

[merry shoal]

Dorothy | B1 20s | Water

[Skill 1] [Torch] [Passive]

■ Affects all allies.
When the last bullet hits, [Burst Cooldown 1.56 seconds ▼]
■ Affects all allies.
When the last bullet hits (while transformed), all allies Part Damage 50.68% ▲ for 5 sec.

[Skill 2] [Baptism] [Active] [20 sec Cooldown]

■ Affects all enemies.
Deals 216% of ATK of damage split between the targets.

[Burst] [Paradise Lost] [Active] [20 sec Cooldown]

■ Affects self.
Sets the Cooldown of [Skill 2] to 2 seconds.
■ Affects self.
Gain Pierce for 10 seconds.
■ Affects targeted enemy.
Marks the enemy for 10 seconds. While marked, the targeted enemy accumulates all damage received (unclear if this include part break damage or not). When the mark expires, the damage is dealt to all enemies as split damage.

The maximum damage that can be accumulated is 8900.83% of the caster's attack power.

[vernal yacht]

Her Burst makes her deal piercing damage

[obsidian fern]

Brands an enemy for the duration of the Expression mode and all the damage dealt to him by Dorothy and her teammates is added together. Once the Expression Mode ends, the damage dealt will be distributed equally between all enemies. The maximum accumulated damage is capped at 8900.83% of Dorothy's ATK.

[merry shoal]

Its both

Both are divided

[obsidian fern]

That's a different translation

[lyric comet]

the other issue is that

the brand explodes after 10s

most atk buffs end at 5-10s mark

[obsidian fern]

I don't think they'd divide 200%

[lyric comet]

which is kinda smoge

[obsidian fern]

otherwise you'd be doing peanut damage

[merry shoal]

Well thats what it says

[obsidian fern]

I'm going by https://www.prydwen.gg/blog/nikke-half-year-anniversary-stream-summary

[lyric comet]

we need official translation

[obsidian fern]

even official translations can be inaccurate for this game. lol

[lyric comet]

True actually

the biscuit incident

[wheat topaz]

POG!

[coarse patio]

Is Dorothy attack or support

[merry shoal]

Supp

[hearty jolt]

didn't expect those 25 tix to be advanced
more crown savings for me

[obsidian fern]

46 free pulls is nuts

[sick lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZzJTame4iw

bro is losing his shit

[wheat ivy]

Seems like they are being quite generous and that leak was pretty accurate

[icy relic]

Imagine how much more hype this would be if it was Nihilister instead with a good kit

[proven birch]

True she's broken my pelvis

[merry shoal]

With dorothy and nihil at least we get 20s burst rotation in pilgrim tower now

[wheat ivy]

nhil is so far away though. I haven't even beaten her yet

);

[coarse patio]

so is liter in the dumpster now?

[lyric comet]

[mint furnace]

Certain bosses liter is better like nihil

[lusty elbow]

Nope

[mint furnace]

Just boss specific

[coarse patio]

you can say she is actual liter KEK

[wheat ivy]

I'll wait for the whales to get dorothy before pouring one out for Liter.

[azure horizon]

nobody is going to stop using liter completely

its just new update hype that will die down

[lyric comet]

Yeah, it's all speculation now anyway

people need to test shit

[stiff crag]

Liter still broken

But this Dorothy bomb enables a lot of BS

ESP we see it blow ups boss parts

[coarse patio]

so i should still MLB liter?

[stiff crag]

We need to see how else it can spread

[stiff crag]

Ofc mlb liter with silver mileage or wishlist always good

Liter will be team 1 if not team 2

Liter has it all

[azure horizon]

Anyway, they can give me all the B1s they want, Ill still use volume

[coarse patio]

volume sucks

[lyric comet]

read his name

[coarse patio]

[lyric comet]

dont think he cares

[azure horizon]

ye i dont

i just switch to the shitty meta team when I get stuck

[coarse patio]

so how many copies of dorothy do i want?

im thinking 1?

her burst scales with damage done from the whole team right

[azure horizon]

her own attack as well

so LB-ing is a good idea

[coarse patio]

but it scales more from party damage no?

[stiff crag]

Worth mlb. Cuz burst atk scaling cap

[azure horizon]

although the attack spike from LB0 to LB3 doesnt seem a lot from the calculation sheet so im on the fence

[mint furnace]

Guessing for overload stats she wants atk crit and maybe elemental damage

[stiff crag]

So pilgrim mlb3 gets 40 bond levels. Insane stats

[azure horizon]

yeah thats the more important thing

[coarse patio]

hope my luck is good then i only have like 150 pulls in me

[vernal yacht]

Just hope the 2% is real

[azure horizon]

Im not even gonna try

If luck is on my side then good enough

otherwise 1 copy and im out

[quasi crypt]

No way it 2%

[azure horizon]

cant lose out on nier

[azure horizon]

yeah I dont believe it for a second

1% take it or leave it

[magic fiber]

40 bond levels are like 2k of cp ?

[stiff crag]

Isn’t it confirmed 2%

[coarse patio]

nier gonna be abnormal? every gonna get to use their abnormal gear rofl

[quasi crypt]

Is it on stream?

[azure horizon]

yeah abnormal

[magic fiber]

It is just on the leaked patch note

[obsidian fern]

it's lower for support than attacker but bond 40 compared to 10 for attacker is around 3k atk

[azure horizon]

But all I get is abnormal support

[quasi crypt]

If it according to patch note Dorothy will also be viable on FP

Yeah sure dud

[azure horizon]

and those even say she will be added to social pulls

so take it with a grain of salt

[lyric comet]

copy and paste from D banner

Add orothy

job done

[azure horizon]

[magic fiber]

I wonder if at 1% how much money need to put in to core 7 her

[azure horizon]

anything ranging from $0 to $3000 depending on your luck

[coarse patio]

800 pulls worth

[vernal yacht]

Timass and Modernia boogaloo

[coarse patio]

expected value

[magic fiber]

Even at 2% off banner a lot too

[obsidian fern]

bond 40 support is 1950 atk
bond 10 support is 336

1.6k difference

[stiff crag]

If it’s 1% better to use tickets. And save for collab 2%

[placid spade]

Yeah, especially bring Dorothy on chatterbox or modernia just call for suicide

[quasi crypt]

Just roll 11 free rolls and pray

[wheat ivy]

I'll try one multi pull, then save for 2booty

[quasi crypt]

I am saving for b2 pilgrim wherever she is

[coarse patio]

is her event onyl 11 days?

[stiff crag]

Ez core 7. 11 copies

[lyric comet]

nah

[magic fiber]

Seeing all limited so far, I don't think they are game breaking tbh

[quasi crypt]

Real

[lyric comet]

we just get 11 free pulls

[azure horizon]

finally time to use golden mileage kek

[coarse patio]

ohhh ok

[placid spade]

I saw you have 800 golden tickets

[wheat ivy]

2b better be like scarlett

[quasi crypt]

Tim don't forget Businrss expense

[stiff crag]

[stiff crag]

I don’t think I can set it up in time

[quasi crypt]

I only got 520 golden ticket and 140 rolls NOPERS

[magic fiber]

She will hold gun like makima and power

[azure horizon]

bruh

[quasi crypt]

Yeah just be sure to do it before 1 year anniversary

If half year is this much content

[azure horizon]

here I am with 50 pulls 9 tix and 400 mileage

[obsidian fern]

I have 25k gems and 656 gold mileage right now

[quasi crypt]

You gonna need the tax deduction on first anni

[lyric comet]

81k gems and 200 tickets

[wheat ivy]

14 gold and 198 silver mileage for me. F U Biscuit

[whole mountain]

so since the news are finally out, you can continue discussion stuff about half aniv. in #1059468005911830558 or #nikke-spice-chat. lets keep this chat clean for future Datamined content or if you wish to talk about stuff that is not official released yet or still hasnt come out.

[placid spade]

320 gold, 3k gem and 10 pull tickets

[gusty zinc]

Special Costume: Alice – Sweet Home Ala...

[quasi crypt]

We are talking about patch note duh

Kappa

[placid spade]

We will stop if there is future datamine

[wheat ivy]

I was talking about Nier. Is it really official if all this stuff isn't out in English?

[turbid narwhal]

The english stream is later

[obsidian fern]

It's official.

[wheat ivy]

I kid i kid

[placid spade]

Official, the font is same as Nier

[quasi crypt]

Truth

Im skipping everything last unit I pull is mlb makima in 90 rolls

[digital oar]

[magic fiber]

Oh skill 2 said distributed too

[turbid narwhal]

I just maxed Liters S1 and Burst too lol

[frozen jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[midnight folio]

Liter will still have some uses dont worry

[coarse patio]

LITER DED

[quasi crypt]

Yep

分配

[frozen jackal]

power creep hits hard huh XD

[turbid narwhal]

Some uses, but not enough to justify 10 levels of skill

[velvet bridge]

Wtf man I just got liter last WEEK

[frozen jackal]

what about the viper skin?

[full stirrup]

liter ded within 1 week

[placid spade]

You still can’t do low cp clear 20-31 without Liter, even if Dorothy is out

Keep coping

[velvet bridge]

Literally a gift from god

[quasi crypt]

I don't see the broken in Dorothy just me tho

[midnight folio]

just a silhouette for now

[turbid narwhal]

I doubt that will be a problem for me anyways

[frozen jackal]

oh so they still have not reveal it?

[lyric comet]

needs testing

[velvet bridge]

We’ll get one in a few days probs

[midnight folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968098119717904433/1098930149942108230/image-2-1.png

just this for now

[lyric comet]

What is low cp for a 20-31 clear? 120k?

[frozen jackal]

honestly for pvp she might not be that good but for pvp she is for sure better than liter

[quasi crypt]

Liter is not a thing in pvp

[placid spade]

125 avr

[midnight folio]

125K-126K at least i think

[frozen jackal]

i have already seen enough

[lyric comet]

No bug, right?

[turbid narwhal]

I'm 120k and I havent even started chapter 20 yet

[velvet bridge]

There is always bug

[lyric comet]

stop being lazy

[placid spade]

Liter still mandatory on 20-31, because you need cover to tank the fire breath

[turbid narwhal]

No

[obsidian fern]

the phase 2 skip was already patched

[frozen jackal]

Patched

[coarse patio]

im 95 and im on ch20

[placid spade]

Still 125

[frozen jackal]

thank god i did with 120k with the bug Lol

[quasi crypt]

I start ch20 at 140k

[midnight folio]

i finished ch20 at 135K

[frozen jackal]

you can do it before that

[turbid narwhal]

No, for real, I'm still on the Eden cutscene steps. I put them off so I dont progress too fast and burn out

[frozen jackal]

there is no such thing as a burn out when going through the story you are just scared to run out of content XDDDD

and that's okay lol

[placid spade]

I’m debating just change these to monster, subtarget and bosses

[frozen jackal]

cope

[placid spade]

Because I can’t find the script that decide amount of them dropping

[turbid narwhal]

Running out of content means no drive to play the game. Burn out

[midnight folio]

theres still Hard campaign to go through

[frozen jackal]

i get your point but how are you gonna run of content when you can't even beat the content

[turbid narwhal]

Who said I cant?

[frozen jackal]

besides we are getting 2 whole chapter less than a week

[frozen jackal]

who said i was talking about you?

i mean generally

[turbid narwhal]

You literally pinged me bro

L

[frozen jackal]

yes because i was enjoying the convo with you

[frozen jackal]

toxic

[lyric comet]

well, with 120k CP

not really enough for 20-31

but you probably have boxes and stuff saved

[frozen jackal]

what scary about 20-31 is not the damage that nihilister does .. rather the fact that she is considered a damage Check for your units to block you from next content

basically won't have enough time to beat her unless you do insane damage XD

[quasi vortex]

Wow insta buy

[lyric comet]

yea

[placid spade]

I’m debating should I change the list on sheet to ig display like this

[frozen jackal]

i was gonna skip because her default looks better for me (More fan service ) but that animation sold me XD

[quasi vortex]

When is global stream?

12 hrs?

[whole mountain]

https://discord.gg/puHE2CUD?event=1098952974396567582

[midnight folio]

good idea, maybe you could also include the colored bars for categories

[placid spade]

There is no stream on en, just a vod

[quasi vortex]

Rly?

[lyric comet]

[placid spade]

It’s on video section

[quasi vortex]

Didn't timeauss say there is more stuff for global?

[frozen jackal]

i mean they said they gonna reveal more stuff in the english verion next but then again no body gonna watch another 3 hour stream

[quasi vortex]

Or is it just copium

[frozen jackal]

gotta be a bunch of highlights

[midnight folio]

im hoping the vod is just a quick summary of things

[placid spade]

Highlight and extra information, yeah

[frozen jackal]

hopefully

[wild pebble]

Half anniversary is like this imagine full anniversary

[frozen jackal]

imagine if they show us the viper skin

[frozen jackal]

Truuee lmao

[lyric comet]

no mafia kajita, not worth to watch

[frozen jackal]

they just made it hard for them self because now the true anniversary gotta be better

[coarse patio]

where is modernia's skin?

was it revealed

[lyric comet]

no

they need to make it

[frozen jackal]

of course no

[wild pebble]

Not yet

[sweet mesa]

We really dunno when the NieR collab will start. Our stash will be destroyed if it's after the .5 anniv.

[quasi vortex]

EOS

[coarse patio]

i hope they put her underwear on the outside

[wild pebble]

[frozen jackal]

i'm actually scared because of that XD

[wheat ivy]

thats why you use half resources now, then save for nier

[midnight folio]

theres no way man

[sweet mesa]

Also it starts at 5am for SEA players

[wild pebble]

It will most probably be in may/june.

[midnight folio]

they gotta at least put one or two filler banners before the collab

[frozen jackal]

dorthy is an attackers that got support skills right?

[lyric comet]

no

[frozen jackal]

or she a support all the way?

[lyric comet]

support that has an attacker skills

[wild pebble]

B1 Support and somewhat dps.

[frozen jackal]

even better

[ocean bane]

[lyric comet]

lowers burst and dmg to parts

that's her support capability

[sweet mesa]

I was thinking collab will be June since it's gonna be as big of an event as Miracle Snow/CSM

[obsidian fern]

support gear keeps her atk in check

[lyric comet]

[obsidian fern]

otherwise she would even more broken

[wild pebble]

Live stream best part was syuen cursing

[wooden marten]

20s = i take for tower

[lyric comet]

looking at the bright side, finally a reason to OL those support gears

[frozen jackal]

my thoughts is that you would only need one copy since support units are valued for their skills not their states unlike tanks and attacks or i'm i wrong?

[frozen jackal]

so downbad for syuuen lol

[sweet mesa]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOkYw3pFMXzYeXv1sZyC7AAUEl-I6IuGx

[wild pebble]

No not down bad

[lyric comet]

wrong, her burst scales of her atk

the more atk = the better

[frozen jackal]

great advice good to know

well with neir collab it's gonna be hard to risk it for full LB3 XD

[wooden marten]

LB2 = 30 bond
MLB = 40 pilg
No?

[placid spade]

I also plan to include it

[frozen jackal]

yes

[lyric comet]

looks good

[wooden marten]

Kk

[frozen jackal]

so how is dorthy looking for pvp? i assume she will be mid

thoughts?

[wooden marten]

Waiting for actual english and not 3ngr15h translation

[wild pebble]

engrish

[frozen jackal]

[obsidian fern]

bond 10 support is 336

1.6k difference```

It's about half of attacker

[placid spade]

Things to do:

• Filtered out infomation to display like ig
• Adding name
• Display enemies stats

[wooden marten]

Sakura eyngreech burst was mistaken as "more damage on shields" until english goes "circle break"

So yeah

[sweet mesa]

She'll be for bosses with multiple parts. General content, she's still good for her AoE passive. Synergizes well with Privaty.

[placid spade]

Oh wow, cool discord update feature that I didn't know it added

[coarse patio]

i have a pilgrim support helm, my dorothy is gonna be a beast

[wooden marten]

Inb4 yorha squad flexes dorothy

At least Dorothy will boot rapunzel in tower

[sweet mesa]

Once I get Dorothy I guess all that I need is Noah (haven't finished 20-31 yet so Nihilister is not currently my option) for Pilgrim Tower

[obsidian fern]

if I remember, I'll take a screen shot of my dorothy's stats at lb0 then again at lb3

so people can see the attack difference

[frigid tinsel]

so er is dorothy good for nihilster?

or liter is needed for the shield repair

[wooden marten]

Liter

[obsidian fern]

doubtful.

[sweet mesa]

Depends on your comp

[obsidian fern]

Liter would be better

[sweet mesa]

1 2 3 3 3 peeps still gonna use Liter

[frigid tinsel]

still don’t have liter

[wooden marten]

Atk boost
Cover heal
Ammo up
Crit dmg
Burst CD

[obsidian fern]

I use 1 2 3 3 3 and I'll be switching to dorothy against most things

[wooden marten]

Only way to power creep liter is offer as much effect and 20s cd

[magic fiber]

A boss that dispell all your buffs

or silence your buffs

[wooden marten]

A possible liter powercreep
Reload speed
Burst CD
Damage share between mobs
Explosion on death debuff
Reflect damage when cover is up

[magic fiber]

Dorothy has problem, too. Like literally she provides 0 survival ability.

[digital cloud]

just kill them before they attack LMAO

that's what shift up suggested to players having trouble with stages

[wooden marten]

Yeah, use D to insta burst when boss pops

[sweet mesa]

Still Dorothy is good in her own right

[frozen jackal]

so is liter btw

[wooden marten]

Litterally a granny, accurate meme

[frozen jackal]

yes that cover repair is nice

[magic fiber]

Liter cover is so good for Nihilister fight

[frozen jackal]

but some enemies just don't care about that like train or black smith guns

[wooden marten]

Interrupt before they break

[frozen jackal]

i'm not saying liter is bad XD

i'm just saying her main job is pretty much to provide more damage to the team just like dorthy

[wooden marten]

If biscuit provided damaging buffs of some sort & 20s she wouldve been prolly essential B2

[digital cloud]

biscuit gives crit to attackers and atk to supporters!!!

[frozen jackal]

@magic fiber of course dorthy got a problem and so is every nikke.. no nikke can do it all after all .. that would be powercreep XD

[wooden marten]

Then its no matter effects lol

suporter

[magic fiber]

After this they will be back to the niche units again

[wooden marten]

So its gonna be like this

[frozen jackal]

sadly crit is not important in this game

[magic fiber]

Unless they change the formula

[frozen jackal]

who is they?

[magic fiber]

Shift Up

[wooden marten]

1 dank pilgrim > 2 wack > 1 great nikke > 2 niche nikke > 1 vomit nikke > repeat

[magic fiber]

Like create more niche units like Sakura and D

[frozen jackal]

ah i see what you mean lol

[frozen jackal]

man i was happy when i was ignorant about this XD

but hey ain't that better for us?

you can skip

and save

for collabs and pilgrims

[proven birch]

So what's the pre launch verdict on Dorothy rn

[midnight folio]

must pull

no wait, recommended pull actually

[quasi crypt]

Liter better Dorothy good

[outer iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1037759340607717496/1098972082102079538/342708126_134230289540671_2442227906593577896_n.gif

[whole mountain]

(2) so since the news are finally out, you can continue discussion stuff about half aniv. in ⁠The Eden or ⁠nikke-chat. lets keep this chat clean for future Datamined content or if you wish to talk about stuff that is not official released yet or still hasnt come out.

[wooden marten]

Must pull for pilgrim tower, if you dont mind 60 months wait, skip & wait for standard suffering

[obsidian fern]

pre launch verdict is Dorothy looks very strong. Better than Liter in some situations. Should be better against mobs and bosses with multiple parts.

In the few cases where cover is important, Liter will be way better.

[coarse ivy]

wat about gravedigger?

basically a case where you would rather want consistent dps in full burst

[obsidian fern]

will probably be bad against GD. Liter will give better immediate damage with her buff. Dorothy's damage is one big hit at the end of 10 seconds

Should be amazing against train

[coarse ivy]

so was pulling for sakura a mistake?

[obsidian fern]

sakura is still bis for any boss that's wind

you'll be thankful you have her against chapter 8 hard's boss and 140 tower

[wooden marten]

Up to you
Sakura = not get one shotted against wind like in UR

[coarse ivy]

rip the people who pulled for D

[wooden marten]

Why, shes dope against wind and insta burst

Its all niche but not absolute garbage

[sick lily]

Ok but hear me out

[coarse ivy]

dorothy would suck for arena though

maybe roughly as good as harran

[obsidian fern]

pepper, noise and jackal are still the best burst 1s for arena

[wheat topaz]

Shell get deleted so fast

[wooden marten]

Y u comparing B1 with B3

[wheat topaz]

No Emma?

[wooden marten]

Its like comparing steak and lemonade

[wheat ivy]

Pepper is good in slot 1 in arena?

[wheat topaz]

High skill Emma godly in arena 1st slot

[green shadow]

Scar and Mod come after Doro?

[wheat topaz]

Emma semi immortal

[obsidian fern]

Emma is bad against non MG users

but she hard counters them

[wooden marten]

Emma is only good against non-SR/RL

[wheat topaz]

Everyone i face use MG or AR in arena

[wooden marten]

And im only SR/RL

[obsidian fern]

then they don't know what they're doing

[wooden marten]

[coarse ivy]

wat about the reload comp? ie using dorothy as a replacement for liter

[obsidian fern]

dorothy pairs exceptionally well with privaty

[wheat topaz]

Drake is low key good in arena

[coarse patio]

why is dorothy good wit priv?

[wooden marten]

I cant wait for a party ASPD buffer to delete privaty

[obsidian fern]

because of her skill 1

[coarse ivy]

lowers mag size

[coarse patio]

oh i see

[coarse ivy]

so base 30 instead of 60

[obsidian fern]

■ Activates when the last bullet hits the target. Affects all allies.
Cooldown of Burst Skill ▼ 1.56 sec.

■ Activates when the last bullet hits the target when in Expression Mode. Affects all allies.
When attacking a certain part of an enemy, damage dealt to the part ▲ 50.68% for 5 sec.```

[wooden marten]

Getting sick of privaty needed for "last bullet" nikkes

[merry shoal]

Idk seems like enough cdr even with base ammo cap. And the part dmg buff only has 1s downtime

[wheat topaz]

I love Privaty. Tsundere queen

[wooden marten]

[wheat topaz]

I advise her everyday to tease her to see her blush

[ivory wagon]

yeah, that's for #1059468005911830558 talks

[coarse patio]

shes a 2 faced bitch

[ivory wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gtfo-get-out-of-here-gif-6207127

[wooden marten]

Yes, out with this

[rigid berry]

Holy mother of Jesus

[wooden marten]

Back to datamine talk like how ASPD > reload

[coarse patio]

how long will it take to get all the rei copies?

will it be time gated?

[rigid berry]

Everyone is too excited for Dorothy

[ivory wagon]

rei will be timegated iirc for taiwan announcement

only exist when over-zone hard appeared

[wooden marten]

Ofc, 20s pilgrim + being banner is true hype

[rigid berry]

An amazing ultra boss killer except for Modernia because of her wings

[wooden marten]

Can finally clap harder in tower

[rigid berry]

So can’t use her for that boss

Well you can try if you dare to do so

[wooden marten]

No modernia warp spam plz

[proven birch]

The only upside I could see is that her parts damage might get rid of the rocket launchers faster and therefore make the run easier?

[green shadow]

Someone said

[rigid berry]

Destroy my wings and I’ll send a barrage of missile at your nikke

[green shadow]

Kr stream say

Scar and Mod banners will also come

[obsidian fern]

I don't believe that

[wooden marten]

Ye

[coarse ivy]

sauce?

[merry shoal]

Fake news

[wooden marten]

If scar banner comes.... it definitely means shes gonna get powercreeped later

[green shadow]

The source is, someone said....

[wooden marten]

[green shadow]

I have a guild mate who says that

they announced it in KR stream

But lets see

[wooden marten]

1. Hyping wallet on scar banner
2. Release superior scar
3. Add more 9TM gear in cash shop
4. Watch people bitch and actually pay to gear new nikke
   ????
5. Profit

Bet on it

[rigid berry]

Ooo the revenue of cash they going to make for Dorothy

Maybe it will be even more when Marian came out

[green shadow]

For sure lmao

[wooden marten]

It will bro

[rigid berry]

Marian / Mod pick your poison

[wooden marten]

Pilgrim + B1 + 20s = as good as sliced bread

[wheat topaz]

April-May revenue gunna explode

[random topaz]

Dorothy burst cooldown party is at 1.24 sec

Last bullet

Thats how fucking efficient dorothy is

[lusty elbow]

4 months until the next pilgrim and then will probably get another one on Anniversary

[proven birch]

What would a superor Scar even be? Same kit but without HP drain?

[lusty elbow]

They can easily make a unit to surpass Scarlet

Honestly powercreeping scarlet is easier than powercreeping Liter

[zealous hazel]

I don't see scarlet getting surpassed until they start powercreeping everyone else

[obsidian fern]

It's easiest to powercreep dps

[lusty elbow]

Nayuta is most likely the next summonable pilgrim but she’s probably gonna be a burst 2 20sec defender

[obsidian fern]

You simply make someone do better dps

[lusty elbow]

So let’s bank on Red Hood to powercreep Scarlet

[zealous hazel]

True dps ez to be powercreep. You can argue modernia already did except modernia isn't good in pvp

[lusty elbow]

She did but people want Scarlet gone entirely

[zealous hazel]

But ppl still prefer scarlet cuz she's good everywhere

Gone entirely? Why?

[obsidian fern]

what modernia did was powercreep harran.

she pretty much took her place entirely

[tulip onyx]

stupid popularity poll 1st place shoulda been scarlet for a new costume

[lusty elbow]

So the next summonable pilgrims I can see coming is
Modernia > Dorothy > Nayuta > Red Hood (if she’s the anniversary unit) > Chime

[zealous hazel]

Harran was never really in the top except with the help of that sniper bug

[obsidian fern]

harran was a good mob clearer due to her virus

but modernia does it better and faster now

[wooden marten]

Harran burst bug was the only reason she was top

[lusty elbow]

Chime is most likely gonna come before Crown

[zealous hazel]

Red hood before chime?

[lusty elbow]

But who knows Crown might come first despite chime having her burst animation

[obsidian fern]

red hood is not coming anytime soon. keep dreaming

[lusty elbow]

If, I didn’t say definitely

But in honesty Red Hood probably isn’t coming until like around 2nd Anni or 2nd year anniversary itself

[zealous hazel]

Well, hoping next pilgrim after Dorothy will be kinda meh so I can target collab😆

[obsidian fern]

I think 21 and 22 will introduce a new pilgrim and that's who the next pilgrim banner will be

probably crown or chime

[zealous hazel]

Leak from their own story

[lusty elbow]

I feel like they are saving Nayuta for 24 or 25

[coarse ivy]

https://nikke.gg/special-interception-gravedigger/
Is dorothy a replacement for liter like volume?

[zealous hazel]

If they are smart, ch 22 will have more than 1 pilgrim

[lusty elbow]

The thing is Nayuta could come in 22

[wooden marten]

Next pilg is surely library to be put in liberation so who cares

[obsidian fern]

I don't think we'll see another pilgrim banner after dorothy till the first anniversary

[lusty elbow]

I don’t see Crown or Chime coming since they aren’t associated with Pioneer or the main story atm

[zealous hazel]

Dude, just chill on Dorothy team comp. Give the tester a chance

[fast sparrow]

better wait until she is really out and ppl testing her

[lusty elbow]

#1059468005911830558

[wooden marten]

No no no, let them theorycraft and watch it all burn down

[zealous hazel]

Opinion on new units change very fast with actual testing

[obsidian fern]

she releases next week

[lusty elbow]

The stream is over back to datamine talk

But yeah honestly Dorothy into Nayuta would be better than Dorothy into Crown/Chime because how are you really going to introduce them

Like there’s have to be a filler arc in between

[zealous hazel]

Just have modernia have a fit and force those pilgrim to pay us a visit to calm modernia down

Only need a small amount of screen time and deed is done

Maybe even save us from the jellyfish

[twilit laurel]

any info about dorothy reload time

[fast sparrow]

reinforcement but from pioneer with the coincidence of weissritter in the same time?

[zealous hazel]

Should be normal but supposedly Dorothy for 60 ammo in her magazine

[fast sparrow]

anyway more will be on #1059468005911830558

[lusty elbow]

Liberalio will be done after 22 most likely

[placid spade]

I did, why?

[zealous hazel]

Can't have pioneer save us each time. We can mix it up. Just say pioneer is too busy but got our distress signal. And then modernia hear about it somehow and beeline to us. Done deal😆

[lusty elbow]

Chapter 23 will be the start of a new arc for a character

And Pioneer will probably get involved again

Like it’s basically a pattern

[zealous hazel]

So no detail on the new chapter in the livestream?

[lusty elbow]

No details on 21 and 22 were mentioned but it’s most likely going to come with the update

[placid spade]

The background for chap 21, 22 is in the city

[fast sparrow]

could be and weissritter is just
dragged by moder along

[zealous hazel]

Ya that's what I'm thinking

[worldly violet]

Based on the leaks I can’t decide if Dorothy will out perform Liter, and if I should save for her or pull all in on Alice and just try to get Dorothy to mlb using gold tickets

[stable lantern]

I’m saving for Nier collab. Can pull Dora anytime and can use Liter for now

[proven birch]

Would she be AR like Rapi or get a new weapon entirely?

[worldly violet]

True

[zealous hazel]

Do you even need mlb Dorothy? She's support

Unless you only aiming for her burst lobby screen

[obsidian fern]

Passing up on a pilgrim is a bad idea. They're super hard to get when their rate goes back to 0.04%

so if it turns out to be a mistake to skip them, it might be hard to correct it

get at least 1 copy

[wise rover]

praying Snow White comes home on 50k. Dorothy can have some tickets ig

[worldly violet]

Her kit seems very dps heavy

But also just cp and the fact that I’m not f2p id not get 1 copy lol

[stable lantern]

Fair point. How about this: roll all my resources on Pilgrim banner and then use golden tix on Nier collab?

[zealous hazel]

Good plan until you see collab burst

[zealous hazel]

Idk how much of her kit uses her own stats tho. The brand is based on her team dps

[digital cloud]

the cap isn’t

it’s based on her own atk

[zealous hazel]

I think her second skill uses her own stats but that should be a minor part of her kit

Didn't someone throw out the 8k number?

[obsidian fern]

since she's support instead of attacker, her gains won't be as big with limit breaks and bond

[digital cloud]

it’s a numbers game though and in the endgame content, you kinda need to squeeze in as many numbers as you can get

[signal cobalt]

it depends if dorothys burst splits damage or doesn’t split damage

[zealous hazel]

I wanna say it doesn't. It already only take a % of accumulated damage

Starts at around 57% or something at level 1

[clever root]

Did the stream clarify if Dorothy’s rate up is gonna be 2%?

[green shadow]

For bosses with parts yes, she is.

[main forum]

Dont remember where I saw but iirc

[green shadow]

For bosses without parts, she might not be.

[ionic hound]

What type of gear is dorothy using?

[stable lantern]

Wdym? That I may regret not MLB for the lobby animation?

[green shadow]

But I think she is still better.

Liter might come close enough.

Liter has cover repair tho

[obsidian fern]

The description says she's a support-type so it should be support gear

[green shadow]

Also Dorothy does not need to burst

Well, if u want the free 50% dmg boost to parts

[ionic hound]

Repunzel is keeping 3 pilgrim pieces warm for her

[zealous hazel]

Ya

[main forum]

idk how credible

[obsidian fern]

I've seen like 3 different translations

[green shadow]

100% credible cus its from stream

[main forum]

I mean the deepl translation

[stable lantern]

Meh, can’t MLB much anyway with f2p. Just focus on meta as much as I can

[obsidian fern]

out of the 3 I'd believe nikke gg's the most

[main forum]

But atm it'd suggest that the damage cap is based on Dorothy's own AP

[zealous hazel]

Same boat bro. F2p can't have nice things like nice lobby animation

[green shadow]

Yes it is based on Dorothy AP

[main forum]

Only got 2x OL for her, sadge

[ionic hound]

I need stones man

[main forum]

Same

[green shadow]

Prydwen and Nikkegg alr have the most accurate translations.

[obsidian fern]

we won't know for 100% certain until she releases because even in-game descriptions can be wrong

[green shadow]

S1: CDR + Pretty much permanent damage boost to parts.

S2: Wide AoE, accelerated 5x by using Burst for 10s.

B: Accelerate S2. Gain pierce to self. Enemy brand, up to 8900% of Dorothy ATK for 10s. Then, all enemies take same damage.

If you hit this 8900% fast enough, Liter might be better than her against non-parts boss.

Also consider her own damage.

[main forum]

Plus Liter has her cover repair

[zealous hazel]

10 sec delay on her bomb tho. Timing is going to be tricky

[main forum]

At least her kit looks interesting

[obsidian fern]

cover repair is niche

doesn't help when enemies instantly destroy it

[main forum]

It is, but it's keeping Loiter on the radar

[green shadow]

Calculation is easy, however.

[obsidian fern]

Liter definitely won't be totally replaced. I think both will have their own areas of usage

[main forum]

That's pmuch my take on it as well

Though Dorothy will probably see more use

[zealous hazel]

If enemy can't instantly destroy it, it's Hella good lasting 3x or more

[green shadow]

True that

However Dorothy will do kill Liter in most places

Maybe not in arena or Nihilister

[obsidian fern]

liter is already bad in arena

[main forum]

Yep

SMG holding her back there real bad

[obsidian fern]

someone brought up a good point of what if the branded target dies before the 10 seconds are up. If it is wasted then then that's a big yikes

[main forum]

I wouldn't mind tbh

Would need more engagement from the player

Or maybe it's gonna explode if the target dies, idk

[obsidian fern]

it means she would be a lot worse against mobs

you couldn't use her to nuke them when the branded target keeps dying

[main forum]

We'll see in a week

[obsidian fern]

I would hope if the target dies before 10 seconds are up, it explodes with the damage it had instead of completely being wasted

watching the video of them fighting the whale boss. after the mark explosion this is what appears above the parts that died.

no numbers. It's just the name

can't even check if the damage is being split or not

The numbers are placed where all the others are. Making it pretty much impossible to identify those from all the numbers moderia is spewing out

[wicked bloom]

Dorothy or NieR collab? Idk what to pull for

[lament furnace]

Nier isnt coming on this patch

[wicked goblet]

is just a tease also

if you more worried progression wise Pilgrims are just priority

[lament furnace]

And collabs nikkes will be always mid

Dorothy looks t0

[thorn oyster]

Ye if you go collab just remember you pretty much pulling for waifu and not meta

[wicked goblet]

at least now i can finally use full set Supporter Pilgrim Manufacturer Gear lol

[placid spade]

No Rapunzel gang 🤝

[wicked goblet]

i like how you can see the nummber here lol

[lusty elbow]

tEx

[wicked goblet]

maybe tEx is like overkill

but then again its a free nuke every burst rotation

but then again, what happens if the nuke Crits lol

reading the new harmony cube

Snow white is gonna enjoy the last cube

[bright sphinx]

those new cubes solo raid only?

or can be used on all content

[proven birch]

8900% ??

[twilit laurel]

1800078/89=20,225
how the fuk a lv280 only 20,225 atk?

[wicked goblet]

wtf those cube stats

[wicked goblet]

it probably dint reach maxed idk

[twilit laurel]

🤔

[wicked goblet]

or is jsut thatm its probably already distributed

[twilit laurel]

can someone give me lv280 states?

[placid spade]

Do we sounds like we have dorothy datamined

[twilit laurel]

yes?

[wicked goblet]

and also idk they can run 280 but shitty stat

or even no gear at all possibly

[twilit laurel]

yap that's my point

just how

[placid spade]

Now watch giselle steal my post

[bright sphinx]

[twilit laurel]

my friend send me his 267 cocoa

is already 34604

[placid spade]

Real question, why they have a hard time kill a boss 14m hp

[twilit laurel]

how dat fuk that dorothy

[quartz sable]

it's possible they didn't hit the 8900% cap

[twilit laurel]

[quartz sable]

would make more sense so the atk wouldn't need to be as low

[placid spade]

So explain why you need to do 2 burst cycle on a 16m hp boss

[quartz sable]

whole team ungeared or something

[velvet berry]

Well it's going to be 3.5-4mil bonus damage at around lvl221

And that's considering all your damage goes into that one target, so basically a solo boss

100% damage buff

[twilit laurel]

ahhhh i know what happend
that dorothy is not Lv10 burst

[quartz sable]

also an option yeah

[twilit laurel]

cuz when that dorothry's burst skill end the full burst time still there

so that's not 10s

[velvet berry]

Yeah cuz of delay

Or we can actually manually delay as well

[twilit laurel]

ah nevemind, he use modernia so that's 15s

[wicked goblet]

Wondering if this is critable or not kek

But anyway if you always reach the cap that's 4.5m every rotation

[mild fiber]

[Target] Taunt for 3.5 sec."```

bruh

everyone can iframe train

[zealous hazel]

We don't want to tho....

[mild fiber]

is reload cube still the best? big dount

dang

we put all resources on that cube

[sick lily]

Ngl, new cubes hype

More variety

[main forum]

It could be that the new cubes stack with the old ones

it makes 0 sense to powercreep old cubes out of existence when 99% of the players havent maxed or even reached lvl 7 on a single cube yet

[orchid kite]

Poor poor Dorothy. She can literally be top tier and I'll gladly shove her ass aside for 2B

[main forum]

Your loss

[orchid kite]

I don't simp for racists

[main forum]

Weak

[zealous hazel]

Major copium that 2b will be good

[whole mountain]

New Hamory Cubes?!

[reef jay]

guys whats the burst cooldown for burst on doro?

[main forum]

20s

[lusty elbow]

20s

[reef jay]

thanks

[whole mountain]

Why Don't have Firing Speed Hamory Cube?!

[zealous hazel]

10 sec delay for bomb to go off tho

[orchid kite]

Who coping? This is implying I care if she's good or not

[main forum]

This is was 350kg of Android ass does to a man

[lusty elbow]

You’re making a huge mistake but it’s your account and your gems

[orchid kite]

It's 2B

[reef jay]

2b ass in the game would be a great addition

[main forum]

[wheat ivy]

how many games has 2b collaborated with? she a hoe

[main forum]

Think I played Nier for like 10min before getting bored

[reef jay]

did they say anything about the next collab?

[main forum]

Quite a few

Iirc no

They just teased it

[zealous hazel]

Those other game doesn't have her twerking tho

[orchid kite]

2B says "all humans are kings" while Dorothy goes "if they breathe, they're a THOOOOOOOOT"

[lusty elbow]

Most F2P are fucked anyways

Since they still have summer and anniversary

[zealous hazel]

There was an image

[main forum]

My Queen culling the peasants like she should

[lusty elbow]

• Any other incredibly good normal units

[main forum]

Oh well

[reef jay]

its ok, im at 400 gold tickets

[main forum]

Being a meta slave helps

[reef jay]

ill survive for now

[main forum]

Can probably skip summer

[reef jay]

[lusty elbow]

It’s either a pick and choose

[main forum]

Since it'll just be bunch of mid coomer baits and skins

[zealous hazel]

Summer is likely just skins. Ur fine

[main forum]

Yeah.

[lusty elbow]

Inb4 both units are Anne level good

[main forum]

Really not a fan of swimsuits either, too immersion breaking

Eeeh

[lusty elbow]

Anne was a sleeper unit

[reef jay]

oh btw hows Rei's kit?

[wheat ivy]

wasnt summer mary and neon leaked as new units. I hate when games do that

[main forum]

Idk about Anne tbh

[lusty elbow]

Yup both of them are new units

Yan, Frima, and Liter are skins

[main forum]

Account isnt bricked if you didn't get Anne, even though she's got good uses

[reef jay]

ig nothing too crazy for smg defender

[zealous hazel]

She got a decoy. Might be viable for pvp

Oh smg

[quartz sable]

summer mary was leaked as new unit yeah, since her pose is different and skins don't do that

[main forum]

Didn't expect to get a free MLB 😭

[reef jay]

yea if u arent rocket or shotgun for pvp its gonna be

[main forum]

I wonder how Dorothy will be in PvP

[lusty elbow]

We’ll probably get more free event SSRs but not like every event until much later

[main forum]

Game's still pretty fresh, yeah

too early in the game's lifespan to start handing out free SSR imo

[lusty elbow]

They’ll probably transition form SR to SSR after Year 1 or Year 1.5

Like most games do

[zealous hazel]

Rip everyone who join later and miss out on free mlb

[lusty elbow]

They missing out on a lot of stuff

[zealous hazel]

Missing out on sr is one thing but mlb counts for more

[wheat ivy]

neon will get a update with new spy gear

[signal cobalt]

neon is a terrible character

design all over the place

not really likeable

they should just write her off

I wouldn’t be surprised if her summer skin gets binned

[zealous hazel]

Obsessed about firepower, uses shotgun instead of rocket launcher ❓

[signal cobalt]

random sailor outfit

is a spy ?

[sick lily]

Summer is neon, not Anis, so im safe

[magic fiber]

Plot twist, Neon is a spy from Rapture Queen

[sick lily]

Anni is prolly gonna be liberario (i forget how to spell her name) or red hood tho

[signal cobalt]

red hood

that’s where the story is going

[sick lily]

Gonna be saving again after dorothy cuz basically no reason to summon lmao. Already got a good lot of units

[signal cobalt]

it will be exploring the goddess squad

[wheat ivy]

red hood makes more sense on 1 year anniversary. new upgrade for cover girl

[sweet tusk]

I'd like a good rapi the one we have is kinda bad

[signal cobalt]

liberalio will probably be mid and given in liberation after ch 22 been out for a while

[sick lily]

We all know anis is the real cover girl

[signal cobalt]

in like 3 or 4 months

[sick lily]

[wheat ivy]

I want her to get upgraded as well. I hate seeing them in the story, then when playing I'm not even using them anymore because they aren't good enough

[magic fiber]

Balance units

[signal cobalt]

anis deserves a ssr summer version

[zealous hazel]

Collab?

[signal cobalt]

maybe they’ll take notes and delete neons summer char

[zealous hazel]

Why even give neon summer skin? They should know by now sex sells

[signal cobalt]

if you notice barely any official art has neon anymore

just anis and rapi

didn’t get a MMD either

[zealous hazel]

They knew what that will be used for

[signal cobalt]

💀

[main forum]

Wholesome cute dances

I wouldn't mind them writing out Neon, but doubt that's gonna happen

Definitely gonna phase her out slowly

[velvet bridge]

Neon makes no sense to me

She’s a comedic relief character obviously but there was already Anis who is superior in every way

[main forum]

My thoughts more or less

She just serves no real purpose

[signal cobalt]

probably a last minute addition to appeal to…a certain crowd

[main forum]

Cunny lovers or gun lovers?

Pretty sure neither of those demographics likes her

[signal cobalt]

didn’t say they succeeded

[main forum]

[sick lily]

Idek why they making an alt of her. They prolly made her b4 thinking she will be most popular... (or maybe shes the favorite of some of the staff)

[grizzled lance]

so guys, anything we should do/not do before the patch?

[zealous hazel]

Don't spend everything on alice

[signal cobalt]

upgrade your pilgrim supporter gear

[zealous hazel]

Do: longer hours at work and build that nikke whale fund

[grizzled lance]

yeah, just locked the gear to my rapuntzel a day before, already crying but what can you do

[signal cobalt]

💀

[digital light]

library

[coarse ivy]

How would dorothy's burst skill work with the SW oneshot comp?
ie replacing Miranda for Dorothy?

[reef jay]

i wonder if we'll get A2 as well

[coarse ivy]

More setup stuff: Dorothy and Snow need to have the highest attack on the team for Maxwell buff

[reef jay]

i dont think u can replace

in that specific comp at least

cuz the buff miranda gives plays a big role

[coarse ivy]

is it the crit damage buff part?

[signal cobalt]

SW will have berserker cube

[reef jay]

yea i think so, thats what makes SW hit so hard, but its also what makes u retry cuz of rng

[zealous hazel]

Very likely. Similar to how denji isn't in csm. All males seem to be unplayable

[signal cobalt]

yea if we didnt get denji the main character of CSM we aint getting 9s lol

[zealous hazel]

So left with 2b and the other one

[reef jay]

im curious on what the weaps will be

2B with a gun sounds way too surreal

[signal cobalt]

could be a scarlet type shit

[reef jay]

hmm