#tencent bad

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granite creek
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British whores

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I hate my countrymen

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Not trying hard enough to drop it

hollow idol
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It kinda funny when you guys shitting on tencent and give them money at the same timeKEKL

wild thunder
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We love the game but hate the publisher

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The word of it would be hate fuck

granite creek
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Im a dedicated F2P

short horizon
granite creek
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Yknow, alex had a point

wild thunder
uneven spear
granite creek
warm bear
winter acorn
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55pull 3golden molds no ssr fuck you 10cent KEKL

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only rapi

harsh halo
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thanks 10cent, can't even watch the story after being stuck for days on it

stiff scarab
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THat's crazy bro

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I think its just JP whales carrying this shit

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Lmfao that accelerated scrolling for 2mins worth of negative reviews

stiff scarab
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Downright scary

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Great video regardless

dry glen
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yeah

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tencent is everywhere

hasty canyon
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Tencent is the raid shadow legends sponsor of the world

stiff scarab
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Thank god for their -600b decline

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And it’s getting worse

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With the China riots

hasty canyon
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Tencent has invested in a number of vaporware surprisingly

wild thunder
torpid mango
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Wonder what'll happen if 10cent bought Raid: Shadow Legends lol

pallid quiver
late marsh
granite creek
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I said

pallid quiver
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oh, yea

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wish ios wouldnt just yeet all bad reviews

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oh nvm, shit's also sorted with ea country, so i can't even make a accurate estimate how their overall rating is here

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also germany is really putting it at 4.6. Either they quit after a week or they just dont bother

rose lily
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So we android folks eating good lol

hasty canyon
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in my country it's down to 2.4 trolldespair

wise badge
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In my country, it's now 3.9 lol

gleaming wasp
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I concur, Tencent is indeed bad

stiff scarab
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#10centout is dead because those who were doing that already quit

rose lily
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Obligatory daily, FCK YOU TENCENT.

stiff scarab
umbral pier
blazing knoll
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I mean, the front view is good, but rear view is just another one for the list of censored butts

hollow shell
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Ratting update on my county

glass anchor
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man I'd love to see tencent trying to explain their "bad publicity is still publicity" strats to shift up rn

dry glen
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Nah they just say

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Cut those server

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And then the server just vanish

glass anchor
rose lily
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<@&1008599605363085403> rise up, FCK TENCENT

hollow shell
rose lily
hollow shell
short horizon
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they should lower power requirements, 15-21 is unplayable without lvling up to > 161

rose lily
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Lmao on new nikke tweet abt ann's sad story

vagrant mantle
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I have a max level Emma, what can you do to me👉😎👈

Countless raptures and bosses have fallen before me💀💀💀And I am now ranking as the strongest NIKKE commander there is🤏😎

I didn't even spent a single cent😏😏As long as you login, 👉👉You can get free 10 draws!👈👈A SSR NIKKE will be guaranteed😱🤯😱

I drew the powerful supporter in NIKKE- Emma😍😍😍 Her massive machinegun deals constant firepower that's able to kill thousands of raptures😱😱😱She also has awesome healing abilities at the same time, ensuring the team success in every battle😎😎😎

Then, enter the gift code to get even more NIKKE upgrade resources. I upgraded my team to the max level easily and became the most powerful commander🥳🥳🥳

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🤡🤡🤡

uneven spear
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""Easy""

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Ha

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Easy my ass

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(donate core dust pls)

nocturne folio
wild thunder
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Wonder why they use her cbt design on the Banner

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Maybe that’s her skin?

misty spindle
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tencent make me go

stiff scarab
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I'd believe all this cap if she wasn't censored from her original design

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Your posts are hilarious bro... laugh Praydge

stiff scarab
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Nikke score hidden on bilibili now 🤡🚮

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Was 2.1/10 before they hid it

vagrant mantle
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🤡 🤡 🤡

stiff scarab
vagrant mantle
stiff scarab
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Agreed

vagrant mantle
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"we have no plans for censorship"

"its not censorship, its art direction"

foh...

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Take notes...

rare rapids
winter acorn
fossil atlas
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Hopefully they'll get the message.

stiff scarab
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They got the message loud and clear

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They chose to do nothing about it

warm violet
wild thunder
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Wonder will we ever know how many player quit or refund

hollow shell
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Stupid Tencent first limited banner tank but deff is too weak idk if this rupe is bug or what but its too weak even dps can take more dmg than tank

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Compare with noah is so far so stupid limited tank 🖕🏿

short horizon
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ludmilla have self damage taken reduction, noah become invincible for few second why they can survive. Rupee only have little def buffs that doesn't help her at all to survive

hollow shell
wild thunder
vagrant mantle
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What?

stiff scarab
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Ohh forgot they earned 69m from Nikke

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69m > 650b so they're positive, thank god Praydge

vagrant mantle
stiff scarab
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Was 1T

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Minus 650B over 2022... just in one year

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Tencent is one of the most important company for the ccp

vagrant mantle
stiff scarab
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Yeah they invested into the good shit like reddit/discord/etc and bought out promising companies

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But they're down bad

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From 1T to 350B

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No more stonks

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All good though

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They made 69m from NIKKE!

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Tencent shills can COPIUMOD from that

vagrant mantle
wild thunder
wild thunder
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Tencent and other tech Giant get hit hard is because they are in the opposition camp to Xi

charred ingot
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10c*nt is doing layoffs as well, even in some of their gaming studios
From what I saw someone named hiff or hixf was nikke en manager then left

wild thunder
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In my opinion Tencent is not a even a good company

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They get that big thanks to CCP and monopoly

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Now that they have to start competing fairly and operate as a business

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It’s cracking them up

stiff scarab
stiff scarab
stiff scarab
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I don't think so but you do you

wild thunder
stiff scarab
wild thunder
merry narwhal
stiff scarab
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Only recently I have learnt about tencent and it is only because of NIKKE

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How does such a big company manage to keep themselves under the radar?

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Ohh of course that's because they must be

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"Competing fairly" Am I right?

merry narwhal
wild thunder
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But everyone call me racist and bad

wild thunder
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Also Quit path of Exile when Tencent buyout the studio

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Epic game store is practically Tencent back door program

bleak grotto
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so surely many many attempts were made by the ruling party to cripple it

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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i havent studied too deeply but a peripheral search did give me that

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i could be wrong 50-50

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tencent's stake in what we would call "key infrastructure" in china though is probably what has them untouched

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despite the recent crackdown and re-enforcement of "fair competition" by the CCP

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if winnie the pooh cant smite them, nothing can

fossil atlas
merry narwhal
dry glen
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they fucked it up

fossil atlas
merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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i would think part of it is due to the internal marketing strategy

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when you do cost benefit analysis you have to arbitrarily attach a dollar value to things that can sometimes be difficult to attach a value to

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in this case, brand image

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tencent very clearly does not value brand image

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and brand image happens to play quite a role in the mobile game industry

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would you touch a game by netmarble for example?

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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it clearly works for alot of things, getting tencent to where they are today

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but this is the one thing where the strategy runs in the opposite direction to the goal

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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yea and i dont think any middle manager or even senior manager would dare to bring it to the board that their "ethos" or "core tenets" run parallel to the goal of dominating the mobile market

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i think even leadership roles would get fired on the spot

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lmao

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just how it is, we just need to point and laugh

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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precisely

merry narwhal
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plus tencent being big and used to monopoly still comfy with their strategy to squeeze quick and greedy coz no one can fight them
well again until mhy with genshin changing the market

bleak grotto
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yea we MAY see a change but not so quickly

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if nikke fails

merry narwhal
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guess nikke will be just another "attempt" to put dent on genshin like tof does pain

bleak grotto
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rather if nikke + a few other games fail

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they will probably realize something is not right with the strategy

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but even if they know its not an ideal strategy it doesnt mean they'll forego it

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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because the reparation to brand image is also another cost to them

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that they may not necessarily make back quickly

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stakeholders will whack the ceo for it

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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if i were in their shoes i'd use a proxy company to publish games

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and then say the proxy company has no ties to the main branch tencent

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that'll make it cheaper to lighten the brand image damage

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and i suspect they are actually trying this right now with level infinite

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but lmao

merry narwhal
# bleak grotto and then say the proxy company has no ties to the main branch tencent

is that.........basically what nexon doing (or at least, similar I think) with BA?
Netgames before merging is just one of their subsidiary and they ask Yostar to publish the games coz their name brand is bad back then
then after jp quite successful they publish the global themselves and slowly fixing their brand image until now and in process also merge with the natgames

bleak grotto
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yes pretty much

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companies are not so dumb they dont realize when their name on a product negatively impacts sales

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they have teams of people analyzing market data

merry narwhal
# bleak grotto companies are not so dumb they dont realize when their name on a product negativ...

I guess what makes the difference is whether they want or not and the condition of the company
tencent still a big company and still holds some of mobas that are popular so I guess they think they are still in play and one-two more fails as long as it brings quick revenue they dont care
while nexon is not as good as tencent in terms of condition and really need to fix themselves hence they change

bleak grotto
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i wouldnt say there was a big need for nexon either

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but they were not comfortable with the way things were, thats a fact

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tencent is definitely comfortable

merry narwhal
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and last time I remember none of nexon gacha prior to BA is this successful

bleak grotto
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they probably sat down and discussed as part of a large management overhaul with the stakeholders what needs to be the goal of the company

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and made the decision from way up high, unanimously, to cut off NA and repair brand damage

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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because if it truly was from the bottom of their hearts that NA was bad and they were truly good, they would have done this 10 years ago

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yea its rare that stakeholders get involved and say "management overhaul"

merry narwhal
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I dont have high opinion for nexon before but now as I play BA as my main I suddenly on their side and can confidently said they are doing very good job now

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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the question is if it truly works out in $$$ that they maintain the strategy

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or default back to the previous

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we wouldnt have the numbers, only they would

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but i'd say theres a higher chance of it being better than prior just from the understanding what brand image does for you in the mobile game market

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when people see yostar for example

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lol

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of course, there are many many more factors than brand image

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its just the easiest win

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the rest would be things like sustainability of the game

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games like hbr, genshin, fma mobile all take ALOT of money to maintain being full fluid 3d

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games like Nikke are middle, not super cheap but only a fraction of the cost

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and then the amount of staff/resources you allocate to each of these products

merry narwhal
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but I guess Nexon already comfortable with their current situation with BA

wild thunder
bleak grotto
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probably not, a full overhaul like that will extend to more things in the future

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not just BA

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this is organizational structure, not a product squat team

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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so xi keeps trying to sit on them but they keep dodging him

wild thunder
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Xi’s trying to nationalize Tencent now

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The process have already started

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Xi goal is to have a lot of midsize tech company

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Not a few mega big tech

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The company become too powerful when they are as large as Tencent or Ant group

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Xi don’t want that

merry narwhal
wild thunder
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Hence why they try to go international with Level infinite

merry narwhal
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I see

wild thunder
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Actually not just Tencent

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Process of releasing a new game in China almost stop for many years now

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After Xi declaration of video game is Spiritual Opium

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The same time they start limiting video game time for children

merry narwhal
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"there are no games in ba sing se"

hollow shell
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I translate the publisher on china is shift up.

If you don't mind can someone translate to make sure its dev or publisher

short horizon
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anne & admi arts

civic creek
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both are subsidiary of Nexon

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I remembered when Blue Archive was deemed as a yostar game when EN was not exist

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they don't know that NAT Games was a nexon subsidiary

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and it works too fucking well

merry narwhal
civic creek
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exactly

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the thing is

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they really care for the game even though when they start to use the name "Nexon" again for JP

merry narwhal
civic creek
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when the biggest and also the last time drama happened because of censorship a year ago, Chief Producer immediately address the issue and apologize for like many times

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and they just had to put "No Illustration Changed from the pre-release region" for every event update

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pre-release region is JP

merry narwhal
civic creek
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now they even made 2 apps for different age ratings

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and they even restore the censored version

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like what

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I played since release

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every update JP and EN had until this point, I always say "what on the world nexon is smoking, no way"

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no way they this good

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as someone who have the childhood of Counter Strike Online, which managed by Nexon, and sadly got shut down

merry narwhal
civic creek
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I just

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think its impossible to have nexon like this

merry narwhal
civic creek
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Chobra was it

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Chobra is a well known Korean caster

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nexon is based for choosing him

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he usually cast Valorant and some other eSports for Korean audience or other audience on Korean eSports

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
# civic creek nexon is based for choosing him

players received him very well
and I am also amazed he can translate like 4-5 person at once by himself while keeps us entertained and replying to chat as well (even though chat is full of crying emojis)

civic creek
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yeah

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I think he works for ESL

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which is the major eSports organization

merry narwhal
civic creek
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the chat even told him to drink lmao

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4 hours stream non stop

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and he still with the chat

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wtf

merry narwhal
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knowing his background I am not surprised by his professional work during anniv
very good translation of 4-5 persons at once

civic creek
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and everyone be like saying goodbye to him when the stream ends

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
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but again while idk what is actually happening behind those of nexon changes
and I do praise them now for able to change into better (which result in BA rising in popularity)
nexon case is kinda outlier as not many company doing this

civic creek
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yeaps

hollow shell
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If CN version publisher by shift up and age need 18+ did you guys will play CN version?

civic creek
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CN version, age 18+, I don't think so

civic creek
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that's like impossible

merry narwhal
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also ccp overlords is there
aint no way they gonna let it slip

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there is reason mhy and manjuu also "escape" from outside cn
with mhy making subsidiary in sg i think (?) and manjuu have hq in jp

civic creek
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Cognosphere is a mhy subsidiary

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based in sg

merry narwhal
hollow shell
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On my translate is publisher shift up and age need 18+

merry narwhal
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wait for someone to translate it

hollow shell
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Same I just ask on my group chat and on group hope someone speak chinese

merry narwhal
hollow shell
civic creek
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but the region the game released is still mainland china

flint quail
merry narwhal
merry narwhal
hollow shell
civic creek
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CCP cultural youth division just need to threaten to proxy ban the server from CN and thats it, you're pretty much done

merry narwhal
civic creek
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devs can be a publisher

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at the same time

hollow shell
merry narwhal
hollow shell
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Mod official said Dev but the Google Translate said publisher idk need make sure first

merry narwhal
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imo it is not worth changing to cn just cn have 18+

hollow shell
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Why nobody here speak chinese ShiftyDeadInside

merry narwhal
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ccp is just wants to cull games overall in cn

hollow shell
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Hmm what ccp mean

civic creek
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Chinese Communist Party

hollow shell
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Idk what to say... Party?

merry narwhal
hollow shell
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💀.... Political

civic creek
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@merry narwhal the first memes of early BA EN release

civic creek
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"Partai"

merry narwhal
hollow shell
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Bruhh

merry narwhal
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and then when arisu censorship fiasco happened I also starts playing global

civic creek
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I'm still grateful that I didn't drop the game when massive shitstorm happened

hollow shell
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4 people with Google Translate on different phone and island just same like my Google Translate ShiftyDeadInside need real chinese person

civic creek
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sitting atleast 20 students with 5* here, half of them atleast UE40

merry narwhal
civic creek
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still F2P on the game

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I wanted to buy those extra monthly passes

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but I always have something else to deal

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I'm grateful I didn't listen to other gacha game community or r/gachagaming to drop BA

rustic oracle
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update your game now via playstore to fix lag

merry narwhal
# civic creek still F2P on the game

I think I buy monthly back then stopped for a while after fiasco
then continue then stopped again coz I just realised they just throw pyroxene to us esp in global so no need for monthly again koharuwheeze

rose lily
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Olbigatory fck you tencent.

misty spindle
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are you serious right neow tencent

old canyon
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Blanc in a coat might actually happen now KEKWexplode

wild thunder
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Just axe her entire team then if they really want to do that

normal summit
stiff scarab
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What it was before shiftup sold nikke to tencent ^^^

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Makes sense why Chinese players are pissed

merry narwhal
stiff scarab
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But

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Yes

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Sold to tencent for at least 3 years

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After that hopefully you'll get a good game

merry narwhal
civic creek
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literally sold their soul to a demon

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for a mere popularity that quickly turn itself down

obsidian dagger
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Goodbye a semiwhale union

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Sold their 16-x accounts for a few grand and moved on

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A few of them were even 18-x

rose lily
blazing knoll
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Went from a 3.6 to 4.2 essentially overnight lmao

old canyon
obsidian dagger
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It was doomed the moment they showed Chibi pvp

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Instantly started joking about how they were going to sell their accounts on ********npc

stiff scarab
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Seeing people discuss this cringe ass pvp mode has me dead bro

obsidian dagger
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Then they did it for realsies

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Shruge its good cope

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Make the best of a bad scenario

marsh sparrow
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even whales wont pay

wild thunder
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It’s about bug

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and qol

old canyon
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I mean yeah

obsidian dagger
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The way the devs and pub treat the game isn't very indicative of good content down the line anyways.

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Take 0 player feedback

old canyon
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But doesn't change the fact atm the game is empty on any fun content

obsidian dagger
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^^

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Run through campaign and tower once Bedge

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simroom is a literal chore

old canyon
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Look at the event minigame it's basically wait 50 sec for timer to run out

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Same with coop you basically sit their and watch the boss dance for almost 2 min because he takes ages to kill you

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And there isn't even a timeline for coop it could be next week or next month haHAA

wild thunder
normal summit
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… while they stay sealed inside their houses of course.

rare rapids
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Daily reminder to diss 10cent

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and their CEO

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and that penguin

rare rapids
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get the fuck #10centout_nocompromis

bleak grotto
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cheaper to buy reviews / delete reviews than to actually win over the playerbase

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and i hate how that is reality

empty tapir
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Daily reminder that Tencent sucks

vagrant mantle
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Play on PC → https://tinyurl.com/LDPlayerLootnWaifus
Twitter → https://twitter.com/sefhi_

Hello degenerates, quick video on the accusations chinese players are making agaisnt Tencent and Shift Up, saying they sold the IP of Nikke and 2 years worth of updates.

A lot of good points so worth a read:

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeO...

▶ Play video
fossil atlas
stiff scarab
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Canada rn

stiff scarab
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No morals whatsoever

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Well it is a china origin company

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Still can't believe shitups just hand in this good game to them for some bread which they could have earned on their own laugh

queen meadow
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Tencent did buy 20% of shiftups stock

wild thunder
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Shift up got enough cash to make this game from Tencent infusion

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So it’s a deal with the devil to begin with

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Damn I wish Japanese company still make good game

sour bloom
wild thunder
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Korean and Chinese have been making a lot of good game recently

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Japanese mobile game kinda lack innovation as of late

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Not to mention un engaging story

sour bloom
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Well... True

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Only a few have that

wild thunder
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Granblue fantasy and IM@S starlight stage are good in their time

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But it’s too old already

merry narwhal
wild thunder
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Same as with KantaiCollection the game got so much potential and everyone involving it fuck it up including dev and publisher

merry narwhal
wild thunder
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Funny thing is that a lot of good Korean and Chinese game also have part of the dev team in Japan to begin with

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Cygame found their success in Normie market with their Umamusume and I can’t really get into it

exotic goblet
sour bloom
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Unless you're into horse racing in general, then maybe

wild thunder
sour bloom
wild thunder
sour bloom
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Or... Simulation games in general

wild thunder
sour bloom
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Aaand there we go wahahaha

bleak grotto
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same boat here, not remotely interested in horse racing

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can read jp

wild thunder
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if only Nikke is half as generous as GBF

bleak grotto
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i dont support anything nikke does but in their defense here the game mechanics allows GBF to be that generous

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because the pool is incredibly diluted, rate up hardly works and dupes do fuck all

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so they can afford to give you a million rolls and it wont hurt their revenue much

wild thunder
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true

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you can roll a thousand roll in 1 banner and don't even get everything that you need

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due to the number of dupe require in end game grid

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I am still unsure which one is worse between endless farming and Endless waiting

bleak grotto
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yea, companies arent magical beasts. they follow very simple things:

  1. What does the cost benefit analysis say?
  2. What does the data say?
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in cygames' case with gbf, the increased traffic during roll giveaways coupled with the fact the rolls do very little for the player makes it an easy choice to go ahead with it

sour bloom
bleak grotto
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if you gave 100 - 300 rolls in games like fgo or nikke, the results would be very different

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value per roll is higher

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though i guess nikke is a poor example here

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considering you need 11 per max lb

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replace nikke with any other game

wild thunder
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in Nikke case you can make do with low number but it mean slower progress

sour bloom
wild thunder
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until they start throwing lv lock content your way

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that's the REAL money gate

bleak grotto
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nikke is just an awful game tbh

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sorry i used it as an example

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thinking about it for 5 seconds

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its value per roll is more or less similar to gbf

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and nowhere near as generous

sour bloom
bleak grotto
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lets use BA/AK/FGO as examples instead

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or any other game that isnt idle

wild thunder
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too bad I play non of those 3

bleak grotto
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value per roll is typically pretty high

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for what it does for the player

wild thunder
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but damn I never see game losing player this quick before

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at least not this early on

sour bloom
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Well... They fuck things up to begin with...

wild thunder
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as thing stand now more will be quitting enmass this January

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like what the fuck

bleak grotto
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yea, its a real head scratcher

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i have never seen

wild thunder
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gating the normal game progress with Gacha roll

bleak grotto
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a developer more hateful to their playerbase

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than this

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like with corporations you typically pretend to put the customer first and at least pretend your focus is on the gameplay experience

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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you get none of this here, they purposely do things that grief the player and ruin the experience

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with full knowledge of what it does

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there is not even a small bit of respect

wild thunder
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all publicity is good publicity bullshit

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I will both enjoy and grief the dead of this game at the same time

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seeing the White Knight quit will be a delicacy

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
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yea it'll be interesting

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they will definitely quit

sour bloom
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Waste of potential...

bleak grotto
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they are stupid but not that stupid

wild thunder
merry narwhal
sour bloom
#

I mean Nikke would be a good game if there are no fuck ups within

bleak grotto
#

the white knights are basically the equivalent of people that say "Taco bell is not making me shit right now, i will eat it anyway"

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and then later they go take that shit

merry narwhal
wild thunder
bleak grotto
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its good

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but you cant say it doesnt make you go poopoo

warm violet
wild thunder
#

it's ok not even that spicy

sour bloom
#

Reminds me of King's Raid...

bleak grotto
#

ok, let me use a better example

wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

"I will cross this busy street because i am fine right now on the padestrian sidewalk"

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the person wont realize its a bad idea until the car is a second away from running them over

sour bloom
bleak grotto
#

this is the nikke whiteknight in a nutshell

merry narwhal
sour bloom
#

The fact that King's Raid is also made by a Korean conpany... I'd expect the same for Nikke

wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

well i'll be honest and say sector 5 in simulation is a little bit fun for me

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

it's practically your daily gameplay because story progression is not a thing for f2p

bleak grotto
#

but i'd like the option to skip if i wanted to

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like what do you stand to lose for saving 15 minutes of the players' time

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other than hoping they get bad luck and fail so they are tempted to spend more

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

see what i mean by being hateful?

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the devs constantly hope you fail

sour bloom
#

A

bleak grotto
#

reed just unlocked

sour bloom
#

I agree. Back then I loved King's Raid because aside from the characters being technically free, the story gets interesting.

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But... Yeah, it's not as good anymore. Or... Was... Because King's Raid was/being subjected to shutting down

bleak grotto
#

yea there has to be a balance

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they do too much for good will they risk shutting down

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they do too little and spite the players, they get bad press and may shut down

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nikke definitely falls in the latter though

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fuck 10c

wild thunder
#

also another elephant in the room is how expensive Nikke gacha is

bleak grotto
#

thats no elephant in the room thats a fucking whale

sour bloom
#

Heck even Uma Musume KR did dirty

bleak grotto
#

you can see it from outside the house

wild thunder
#

that's an incentive for people to buy package

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because the "discount" you get from those package actually make the roll price like "Normal" gacha instead

bleak grotto
#

yea thats definitely the intention

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

yes

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the average salary in tech is about 4 to 5k a month

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bigger games have some 500 to 1000 employees

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where the biggest have 5000+++

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naturally management and all take a bigger cut

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so you see that mobile games require alot of money to stay afloat since its not one and done and a constant development lifecycle

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you cant say "Oh theres 10 people spending 1k a month, this game is fine"

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thats not true

sour bloom
#

I'm still surprised Dragalia Lost was published by Nintendo...

merry narwhal
# bleak grotto yea there has to be a balance

i do feel at least BA is kinda balanced
but it might just me their gacha is definitely not the best systems (only has spark but no pity) but at least the need of dupe is less (coz farmable shard for lb) and they did throw us lots of currency (albeit not as cheap as pnc or azur lane)

bleak grotto
#

there has to be abit of fuckery

wild thunder
#

which gacha game have 5000+++ dev?

bleak grotto
#

not gacha game

wild thunder
#

is that FIFA or genshin?

bleak grotto
#

like we talk square enix etc etc

sour bloom
wild thunder
#

oh the company size

bleak grotto
#

yea company size

bleak grotto
#

because the earnings of an app doesnt go to just that team

wild thunder
#

I thought you talk about dev team size for a moment there

warm violet
#

Unless you're literally adding the janitor of the outsourced company

wild thunder
#

and can't think of game that have 5000+ dev

bleak grotto
#

well the janitor also has to be paid

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i'm not talking about devs specifically

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i'm talking about run cost of an organization

wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

of course it varies greatly because 3 people in a basement can be a company too

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but you get what the message is

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cost of running is not cheap

wild thunder
#

black company that my friend used to work for forced the dev to clean their own toilet

warm violet
#

My last boss forced everybody to be janitor once per month

bleak grotto
#

anyway we're running on tangents, tldr companies need quite alot of revenue to run especially those developing gacha games

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but fuck nikke because they are going way overboard with it

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thats all

merry narwhal
#

truly pushing to the limit

bleak grotto
#

but fuck them

wild thunder
#

in my opinion Nikke need at least 3 more month to work out all the bug and game resource flow

bleak grotto
#

right (for the corporation) doesnt mean right (for the customer)

sour bloom
exotic goblet
wild thunder
#

opening month usually is strong especially with that kind of marketing

bleak grotto
#

people die when they are killed

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

and people's shoes get wet when they step in water

merry narwhal
exotic goblet
#

People die when they are killed

bleak grotto
#

yea that one applies very well here

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they are checking all the boxes for sales and marketing

bleak grotto
#

100/100 full marks no comments

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the guy that made the decision deserves a fat bonus

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but as a customer i hope he falls down a flight of stairs

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thats all

wild thunder
#

more like enjoy their cancer

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a flight of stair is too merciful

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

the stairs definitely

wild thunder
#

atleast paralyze from neck down or something

bleak grotto
#

i can live with my pilgrim molds failing

exotic goblet
#

Nah. May the crabs of a thousand harlots nestle within his crotch.

merry narwhal
warm violet
wild thunder
#

still wonder what will happened after Tencent get nationalize

warm violet
#

Oh no. The cancer is developing, now you need to lb3 your drug

sour bloom
exotic goblet
bleak grotto
#

i'm playing still only because when the whiteknights finally hit chapter 13 or 15 they'll realize that they are just paypigs

merry narwhal
wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

and the ensuing toxicity on all the social media platforms will give me a joy like no other

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and maybe

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just maybe

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no guarantees

exotic goblet
#

Only game I know of where you get less rewards as you progress Plot.

wild thunder
#

chapter 14 is surprisingly short comparing to 13

bleak grotto
#

we'll get 301 gems as compensation

merry narwhal
sour bloom
merry narwhal
sour bloom
#

Imagine the pain of seeing that 1 gem everyday wahahaha

wild thunder
#

people tend to don't want to admit that they are wrong

bleak grotto
#

they'll move on but what happens is there will be a significantly smaller voice that stands up for 10cent

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

even in the officialcord

exotic goblet
#

Tenshit

bleak grotto
#

you will notice that the whiteknight voices are alot smaller than they used to be

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and it will keep shrinking

wild thunder
#

I see on official JP cord today some JP start talking about calling in some feminist organization to force them to raise the game rating

warm violet
sour bloom
merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

yes

#

the 1 extra gem is a reminder of their "good will"

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and is a permanent apology

#

it cant get any better than that

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
#

yea its alot smaller now

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i honestly dont care about whiteknights admitting they are wrong

wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

the fact is they can leave for any reason they like, but they WILL leave

wild thunder
#

Hell talking about in game bug can get you post deleted

bleak grotto
#

and when you -1 -1 -1 you lose out on that much more revenue

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
warm violet
wild thunder
#

people always ask there the source of that tencent buying shift up leak come from but what they listed in there are convincing af

merry narwhal
bleak grotto
sour bloom
bleak grotto
#

precisely

warm violet
merry narwhal
bleak grotto
sour bloom
#

Lol smol head KEKL

warm violet
merry narwhal
exotic goblet
wild thunder
wild thunder
#

come to think of it I think NIKKE are very much like Cyborg from MGS series

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

imagine Modernia require 400 gold ticket to pull instead of 200...

wild thunder
#

I predict people will quit enmass from that

sour bloom
merry narwhal
merry narwhal
sour bloom
wild thunder
#

I think someone said that a lot of white knight on reddit are actually also suspeciously new account

wild thunder
warm violet
merry narwhal
warm violet
#

It's actually closer to protoss dragoon

wild thunder
#

there are even factory specifically for orphan brain extraction

warm violet
wild thunder
warm violet
wild thunder
#

I want nice Raiden ass in me Nikke

bleak grotto
#

Ok but do the nikke's get awesome themes too?

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

their BGM is top tier already

warm violet
wild thunder
#

surely there will be character song in the future

#

if the game survived that is

bleak grotto
#

Well we do have hero

warm violet
#

Metal Nikke Survive: revengence

bleak grotto
#

For laplace

merry narwhal
sour bloom
warm violet
#

If gbf can get a fighting game out of their ass and arknight and Al can get anime tits shaking

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
warm violet
bleak grotto
#

Anikke: Lords of the locker room

warm violet
#

Aniki is actually a game series

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And it's as gay as you expected

wild thunder
wild thunder
warm violet
#

Back when shoot them ups are charming and FUN

#

(stares at the general direction of tohou)

wild thunder
#

I am too old to play shoot them up now

wild thunder
bleak grotto
#

im bigger on jrpgs in general

#

like smt

exotic goblet
warm violet
merry narwhal
warm violet
#

Brain in the tank thought experiment but nobody thinks about it

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

i think dragoon still have their original body inside though

warm violet
#

But nikke is also weird in that the organic brain also doesn't matter

merry narwhal
#

with exception of dragoon housed crippled protoss while nikkes housed organic brain

wild thunder
#

like Kilo

warm violet
#

Because NANOMACHINES, SON

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

stalker as well

sour bloom
warm violet
#

like why do you even need a brain anymore

merry narwhal
warm violet
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If you can wipe and (very likely) install false memory

wild thunder
#

oh I see

wild thunder
merry narwhal
# wild thunder oh I see

but the concept is quite similar
it is just the thing housed is diff
dragoon/immortals is crippled body
stalker is consciousness/souls

warm violet
#

(that's scarcasm)

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

we do have full on robot in Nikke body in game as well

merry narwhal
#

it can be easily hacked

merry narwhal
wild thunder
warm violet
wild thunder
#

no mining need

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
warm violet
merry narwhal
warm violet
#

Imagine bolt casually turns around and bites liter's head off

warm violet
merry narwhal
#

I'd rather not imagining that
imagining rapi head roll near to commander back then is already quite something

wild thunder
#

Einkk and Enikk are both full on AI using Nikke body as physical interface

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

Einkk is the mesugaki

merry narwhal
merry narwhal
merry narwhal
merry narwhal
#

what the actual f-

warm violet
#

-tekken

wild thunder
#

somehow I can imagine Blue archive having a spin off playing like Nikke...

merry narwhal
wild thunder
#

yes

exotic goblet
#

Alisa Bosconovitch and her exploding head.

warm violet
#

Yes, the perfectly normal and Totally not convoluted fighting game tekken

merry narwhal
exotic goblet
#

Or she gets roped into the Peroro-sama Cult by Hifoomy.

merry narwhal
exotic goblet
#

Nu. Hornako and Pervharu will ruin her.

warm violet
#

So

#

Has anybody tried memento mori

merry narwhal
warm violet
#

I downloaded it alongside nikke

merry narwhal
#

i dont play memento hmmmm

sour bloom
warm violet
#

And despite everybody saying it's a dead game, I think I'm going to play it longer than nikke

sour bloom
#

Boring even

warm violet
#

But it's only boring for 5 minutes everyday, while nikke is boring for 1 hr everyday

sour bloom
#

Well... Have you tried being locked at 120 in Memento Mori?

warm violet
#

For a week now I believe

sour bloom
#

It'll take you months

warm violet
#

Damn

#

Well, at least I got to enjoy doing chores quickly

merry narwhal
#

guess we have to wait for another new good games huh?

warm violet
#

My suggestion would be STOP PLAYING GACHA

sour bloom
#

Also you require more and more copies

merry narwhal
warm violet
#

True

#

Fortunately, I'm too broke to even dolphin

sour bloom
#

And limited units requires the copy of the same unit on certain points

#

Memento Mori's greedier than Nikke

uneven spear
#

I didnt expecting 2nd part of event story to be depressing

warm violet
#

O.G

uneven spear
#

I wonder why there so many depressing shit in life

warm violet
#

Memento more just updated new character N102

wild thunder
warm violet
sour bloom
#

In short... You'll need more pulls in Memento Mori

#

So many pulls

warm violet
#

A girl that forgets everything and keep her memories in a notebook

wild thunder
#

I try memento and quit in a day

#

the battle is just non exist

sour bloom
warm violet
#

Pro for me
I wish simulation lab would be non exist

wild thunder
sour bloom
uneven spear
#

I wish i could quit gacha game

sour bloom
#

At least waifus though

wild thunder
#

but kancolle can get super exited sometimes especially during hard event boss battle

warm violet
#

Bitchass waifus

#

Like holy hell what happened here why's everyone so miserable

wild thunder
#

10c happened

warm violet
#

No I meant in memento Mori

sour bloom
warm violet
#

They look a catgirl with a upbeat song

Oh her village got wiped out by pleague and she's now a grave keeper

sour bloom
#

Love Amleth

uneven spear
#

Why gacha keep giving depression?

warm violet
sour bloom
uneven spear
#

I dont think i cant do anything to upbeat myself now

#

Only cope

warm violet
sour bloom
#

Not as hell as dark souls at least wahahaha wahahaha

uneven spear
#

After see someone spoil the event story part 2

#

Feel bad man

#

Not that i got spoil but the story itself

#

Kinda make me think why recent gacha game have to make it depressing

warm violet
#

You see, depression is treated as mature

#

Like during the 2000s when every "mature" game needs a shit stained "realistic" filter

uneven spear
#

Huh

#

Man

#

Just being grown up is pain already

#

Barrage of endless shit

warm violet
#

Look on the bright side, no more homework

uneven spear
#

Yeah no homework but work

#

I hate FOMO

#

For keep me shackled with gacha

merry narwhal
wild thunder
wild thunder
uneven spear
#

got anne now

#

i

#

content

#

there's no happy

short horizon
#

cute and depresso

uneven spear
#

Feel bad as hell

#

Also during many rolls

#

I got centi and liter

warm violet
#

Congratulations

uneven spear
#

Also

warm violet
#

I rolled once with advance recruitment tickets, no success, I'm not gonna roll again

uneven spear
#

Are you fucking telling me that this shit worth a gems of one roll?

uneven spear
#

Gonna use pity for modernia

warm violet
#

But yeah the whole game is a bad deal

#

Everything is catered to instrumental play

merry narwhal
#

shitup, probably

uneven spear
#

Bad deal really

#

Worth of 1 1/2 roll

#

I got her but i dont feel happy

#

I feel depressed and pain

warm violet
#

So uhhh on average 4500 gems molds gave you 60% of a SSR, while by pooling you get on average 60% of a ssr

#

Ok it is a very bad deal

merry narwhal
uneven spear
#

Now i feel even worse about my life

warm violet
#

Nikke story in whole is cute and sexy girls doing depressing shits

uneven spear
#

More like a cake fill with shit that make feel guilty

#

Sweet and depressing

rose lily
#

Obligatory daily FCK YOU TENSHIT

warm violet
#

And with so many fridge horrors it's better to just shut your brain and enjoy the jiggles

uneven spear
#

Yup fuck tencent and china

sour bloom
merry narwhal
uneven spear
#

😔

#

😩

#

😩🔫

#

💥🔫

warm violet
#

So, reject instrumental play, return to monkey

sour bloom
warm violet
#

one thing though

uneven spear
#

One thing?

warm violet
#

WHY IS THE FREAKING HOT SEE THROUGH BODYSUIT DESIGN IS ON A MASS PRODUCED NIKKE

uneven spear
#

I dont know why

warm violet
uneven spear
#

Hit

#

Hot

warm violet
#

That chest part is just chef's kiss

sour bloom
wild thunder
#

Wouldn’t be complain about censorship either

warm violet
uneven spear
#

damn

#

feel bad playing event now

#

knowing what next

wild thunder
#

Oh seem like CP deficit stat penalty is confirmed for Arena.

#

Damn…

short horizon
#

wtf

wild thunder
#

Right

#

Do Whales even need that?

short horizon
#

so more CP you win? no need for strategy or team building?

uneven spear
#

i dont see strategy in arena

#

since it just go full auto

#

rarely see it burst

warm violet
#

there's like some strat
afaik enemy always attack left to right one by one
so put your defenser/fodder/burst dup on left most

wild thunder
#

Also Stun is very op on arena right now

uneven spear
#

oh right. Right to left

rose lily
#

Fck I hate tencent

wild thunder
#

Is the iOS update out yet?

stiff scarab
#

Bai lan

torpid mango
#

#sepuluhsenout

stiff scarab
#

Syuen enjoyer loveeyes

torpid mango
#

yes-

stiff scarab
frank dirge
haughty creek
#

Congratulations for tencent aquiring 20% of shift up

#

Now it is time for well mannered gacha games with socialist and eastern culture

marsh wing
#

Isn't it normal for devs to get stuff in games for free?

#

Downvoted x9

blazing knoll
# haughty creek Congratulations for tencent aquiring 20% of shift up
4Gamer.net

韓国テレビ局の報道により,Tencentがゲーム開発会社「SHIFT UP」の投資を済ませ,同社株式のうち20%を取得したことが明らかとなった。これに伴い,株主としてのTencentの出資比率は,創業者キム・ヒョンテ氏に次ぐ第2位となる。

short horizon
#

there it goes

#

the future of this game is now darker than black

#

now they can touch DC and stellar blade

haughty creek
#

Thanks tencent

#

For bringing socialist culture and eastern manner globally

#

Now we global peeps understand what it means to live in china

short horizon
#

not if i play games that tencent can't touch

frank obsidian
#

Fck tencent

#

Fck kim

wild thunder
#

Are there any publisher that’s not horrible left?

merry narwhal
#

uhh

#

idk, yostar?