Research Dungeon

[eternal heath]

the first place we need to know if the same char can be used

[unborn glacier]

Most likely no.

[eternal heath]

also how tf burst timings work

[restive idol]

depends who got which role

[unborn glacier]

Based on video, there are some minor delays

[eternal heath]

network is fucky, if 2 ppl burst at the same time what happens?

also would love to test soline but i dont have her

killing random teammates in coop

[unborn glacier]

I can take support ( liter) role.. also we can do funky builds

[eternal heath]

is the funniest shit to me

[restive idol]

for now don't level up any skills yet since bursts are bugged either way and we should try testing out units first before doing somethings

[unborn glacier]

Like hyper burst CD team

[eternal heath]

do we have isabel tho

[unborn glacier]

I have her

Level 2 skills

[restive idol]

only good if volume have any value aside here cdr

[eternal heath]

oh!

[restive idol]

liter dolla is already enough for cdr

[unborn glacier]

My theory is Dolla + liter should be enough CD reduction

Unless we have Isabel in team also

[restive idol]

the problem is if we go 2-2 or 1-3 for b2 and b3

[unborn glacier]

We try many teams lol

[restive idol]

also is the coop boss the train?

[unborn glacier]

Yeah, so it's "easier"

[restive idol]

it's only easier if there's no new mechanic and another stupid bugs that could affect its damages and shits

[eternal heath]

i wonder if they will make the coop boss really hard to make up for it

considering we are wallet openers who all have the t9 gear

[unborn glacier]

Nah, there are actual rewards, so they can't make it too hard.. or they will have another caller id fiasco 😂

World ranking.. now that different

[eternal heath]

my level do be kinda low tho

[unborn glacier]

We need to beat those t9 wallet openers

[restive idol]

prolly make it unkillable? since if damage is the basis for union rankings then the boss being unkillable and taking tons of damage across the fight would be the only thing that could make rankings work unless they make ranking on fast clear basis

[unborn glacier]

Wait let me check the video

[eternal heath]

either a speedkill or dmg dummy i guess

[restive idol]

if its dmg based for rankings and boss is killable then its stupid since everyone will just have the same damage but different clear time

[eternal heath]

cant wait to see it filled with hackers

[restive idol]

server wipeout again

[unborn glacier]

I'm old

[restive idol]

so its unkillable?

[eternal heath]

oh right since its the train boss shotguns are probably gonna be really good if we let it ram near

[restive idol]

even if you dont let it ram near 2nd phase is already near enough for shotgun to not spread badly and even if shotgun spread badly the hitbox of train is too big for sg to miss most pellets

[eternal heath]

but muh effective range

[unborn glacier]

Probably, crazy hp on the parts

Hit red circle for no ramming.. if we can do enough damage.. and if we can reach that phase

[restive idol]

yeah so dmg base and boss unkillable is the way otherwise it would be stupid to make it fast clear basis

[eternal heath]

cant wait for coop to end up being unsynced cause network is fucky

and then some ppl see red circle or a diff phase than others

[unborn glacier]

Lol, let's worry about bugs when we get there hehe

Might need sustain + Rapunzel, if the part is near indestrucible

[eternal heath]

well i just pulled noise so

[leaden wren]

I dont think thats gonna be how it works I think you will always survive til the end

what you race by is your dmg dealt

like I dont think you need to ocare about actually winning the boss

you just need to think of how to deal as much dmg to the boss in the shortest time possible

this is how world bosses are done in a lot of mobile games

[restive idol]

if boss is tanky af but deal potato dmg the healer can just go and do 1-1-3

and if fight last at least 3 mins novel would be a good unit to test there

[leaden wren]

yea i dont think you'r meant to kill the boss

you're just meant to deal dmg and not die too early

I tihnk the boss doeesnt even have HP

[eternal heath]

will need to see tmr

[restive idol]

i call it

tomorrow after mt there will be another mt prolly within 16 hours

and pretty sure that's also fixing the issue for the said earlier mt

[leaden wren]

After today I dont even wanna play the game anymore

[unborn glacier]

No running away, your joining us in bug hell hole 😂

[eternal heath]

we suffer together

oh i just saw the game news photo

so there will be faction buffs

...im going to be useless if pilgrim buff happens

[restive idol]

for co-op?

[eternal heath]

apparently, see game news

[restive idol]

in what platform? if twitter, i dont have and use twitter

[eternal heath]

@restive idol #ark-news

[restive idol]

i dont see any news about faction buffs there

nvm im blind i saw it now its in coop

[eternal heath]

[restive idol]

so its elysion + missilis buff tomorrow

[leaden wren]

this is not far enough for sniper btw

how fking far

do you need

to be

[restive idol]

try slotting harran in slot 2 or 4 can make the distance a little further sinces those are backline position

[vocal vale]

lmao no its 500 gems for best players..

[unborn glacier]

I'm talking about regular rewards for the shop. Not the ranking rewards in that post.

[eternal heath]

ok cool i can leave my current union and join over

what's the union id?

[leaden wren]

3128

[leaden wren]

I just noticed they banned people

I'm presently surrprised I aint banned

[unborn glacier]

In the game? I saw the number rise to 2+k

[leaden wren]

yea

I basically used a game breaking bug to clear 13-24 after all

but iw oudlnt really matter since if I didnt clear that day I would have cleared to day

[plush gazelle]

they probably banned people using 3rd party stuff no? unlikely that they would be able to pick up on you using a bug like that

[leaden wren]

the thing is

I believe they cant detect hacekrs

[restive idol]

you're one of their cash cows and if you get banned it will mean many whales who abused it will also be banned so they'll lose their income

[leaden wren]

they are banning based off of the account power alone

[plush gazelle]

the fuck

how do you know?

[restive idol]

then that's stupid big brain people who actually did it by multiple tries for rng are banned

[leaden wren]

I dont know I just think so. A lot of these kind of games actually cannot detect modifications of stats

[plush gazelle]

sheesh

[leaden wren]

but they could eventually

[restive idol]

most likely they have in-built 3rd party detector

and chinese always have a way to do shit with things like this

[plush gazelle]

they can’t even make bursts work properly u think they can do that

WAIT

this chat doesn’t have a slow mode

[restive idol]

genshin also had an uproar on release because some chinese were selling rerolled accounts and had to ban some reroll accounts

[plush gazelle]

praise the powers that be

[plush gazelle]

honestly i say just let these people be

it isn’t worth the effort of banning them

[restive idol]

even in league of legends chinese made a gambling site for professional doing solo que

so games in high elo have never been competition but controlled where high elo players getting paid to int for either side of the team to make the odds and shit go in to the favor of the dealers

[unborn glacier]

It was good for business 😂

[plush gazelle]

LOOOOOOOL

they’re so creative

[restive idol]

yeah but professional players are getting enough of it even faker made a claim he will stop solo que if that shit don't get fixed cuz they're invading almost every server for that

[leaden wren]

they definitely do not detect 3rd party

this is for a fafct

[eternal heath]

if they did the nude modders would be banned by now

[leaden wren]

yep

[ocean radish]

reddit made me see this

💀

[eternal heath]

tiddies are good

[ocean radish]

and i dont know what to feel

i just have the drive bookmarked

LOL

[unborn glacier]

I'm specifically just referring to gambling off, league of legend players hehe

[plush gazelle]

link

[ocean radish]

ill dm n shet

[plush gazelle]

let’s fucking go bois

[unborn glacier]

Ohh I sorta saw that

[eternal heath]

you can also just joined the destiny child discord server

[unborn glacier]

Need mod res files. Risky

[eternal heath]

thats where all these nude mods are coming from

[restive idol]

true, good for the business of the chineses but bad for riot's business since their supposed GOAT and ICON of the game is making a claim of quitting because of that so yeah

[plush gazelle]

no need

[trail falcon]

You can detect scripts and third party program 100%

If there are people like me abusing the lag bugs, they can't really detect that other than sifting through my equipment and clear records one by one

[leaden wren]

the thing is

they arent banning through third party for sure

[unborn glacier]

Ahh true hehe

[leaden wren]

they are banning based off of clear mission

I know of a person that actively cheat in this game

and they arent banned

[ocean radish]

theyre banning users using random name generator even in banning theyre using RNG

[leaden wren]

this is like 4 ban waves already

[ocean radish]

[trail falcon]

[plush gazelle]

i don’t care about the bans tbh i just want them to fix all the bugs

[leaden wren]

the only way they dont get banned is to not do missions harder thna what they could

ppl who are banned

at all 16-28

although I do wanna know what you get from Special Interception tbh ngl

[trail falcon]

you get tier 9 gear from special intercept

your characters are fixed at level 200 for special intercept as well just like EX stages

[restive idol]

would have been better if they just did this for all interception

but ig it takes away the element of challenge to it

[trail falcon]

#1 player already cleared 16-28 yesterday I think

he's able to clear to stage 8 of special intercept

[leaden wren]

those 9 looks kinda hot though

is there a reason why t8 gears arent in fking intercept SS or something?

they are too fking lazy

[plush gazelle]

why is it fixed at 200 for special interception, which is the one challenge that probably doesn’t need that to be the case

[eternal heath]

what boss is special intercept?

[trail falcon]

the monkey AKA chatterbox

I think you can tell from the picture

[leaden wren]

the thing is right

if you are at 16-28

yoo udont fking need t8

???

[eternal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-white-cat-oh-boy-facepalm-shy-cat-gif-14500248

[restive idol]

ig its for coop rankings

[trail falcon]

he doesn't actually have that many t9s its kinda rare, he gets like 1 a day

[leaden wren]

the people who are in between 36k (intercept s) and 90k (s. intecept) needs that fkin t8 bro

[trail falcon]

I think you get some from story ?

@eternal heath oh sorry, the special intercept boss changes everday

[leaden wren]

you do get from story

I own 1 T8

from clearing 14-30

but like thats not the problem

the only way for me to realistically grow now is just to wait 28 days for 1 mission

because like each mission has giga jumps for some reason

have yall seen this

[restive idol]

the yellow mark?

[eternal heath]

i have no idea what you want us to look at

[leaden wren]

I've never seen snow white with sniper rifle

its always ready to shoot

I got her to hide behind cover by stopping aim assist

[restive idol]

we're not too adept with details with snowy unlike you

[trail falcon]

wait did you finally pull snow white ?

[restive idol]

he always had a snow white if he hadn't pulled her in the amount of his swiping he wouldn't be here until now

[leaden wren]

that would be correct yes

I want to LB3 C7 her

I want to fking ATTRACTION LEVEL 9999

I want to FKING her

man this research chat has derailed

[eternal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/popuko-pop-team-epic-nodding-yeah-yes-gif-16322848

well there's nothing to test until coop comes out

we could theorycraft what teams we'll use

OH RIGHT I HAVENT JOINED THE UNION HOLD ON

[plush gazelle]

you’re just researching snow white’s insides

nothing wrong with that

[leaden wren]

[eternal heath]

@leaden wren soontm

@leaden wren what the fuck

i applied to atheria

but it said i applied to another union instead

[leaden wren]

classic

[eternal heath]

ok

i sent a req

accept before that other union i applied to on accident does

time to test the interception bug

[vocal vale]

tryining the new type of bug on GD
should I also manual yuni at the same time?

[vocal vale]

same

[eternal heath]

bleh

ok

i tried twice

cant get it to work

i like my frames

fuck it

ill just aim like i always do and play normally

[vocal vale]

dam

I really want to clear stage 8 of interception today

cant do the 3rd one hmm

its hard

[eternal heath]

damn

[vocal vale]

seems like manually clicking is better

wait it suddenly stopped working tf

[atomic gyro]

I wonder why

[vocal vale]

I cant do the last one :/

GD STFU

seems like ur full burst also matter?

[eternal heath]

wa cannot

8 million my best

[vocal vale]

wat stage is that

[eternal heath]

still 7 isnt it

or 6

idk

[vocal vale]

dipshit just took my liter in 1 go

[eternal heath]

ok, my best on manual

[vocal vale]

wtf

[eternal heath]

need to play 3million better to hit stage 8

[atomic gyro]

This is testing on low perf right?

[eternal heath]

no

i gave up low perf

that was manual

[atomic gyro]

lol, I tried with 2 cores and it was already uncontrollable

[eternal heath]

if i played better i think i could reasonable survive

i broke phase 2 circles twice

if i could squeeze out three breaks in phase 2 or time burst better for phase 3 i think i could kill it even

SKILL ISSUE

[vocal vale]

:/

[eternal heath]

this is why i want a practice mode on interception

i swear its possible with 32k

[vocal vale]

u dont need no bug m8

[eternal heath]

within a month some korean chad is probably gonna do it with SR units at low stat too

[atomic gyro]

No, they're going to do it with N units

[vocal vale]

no way in hell man this shitty gravedigger just keep moving

something must be missing

[eternal heath]

gonna go record a clean run once i can

[leaden wren]

so you're saying im a menance to the society

[eternal heath]

tomorrow it is

[leaden wren]

[vocal vale]

bloody fucking shitdigger

[plush gazelle]

can u run emulator on a mac? 🤔

[atomic gyro]

no I'm saying this entire server is a menace to society

[trail falcon]

new Taiwan article on how to use the bug on mobile

[eternal heath]

u have my interest

[vocal vale]

bruh I cant stage 3 bug no matter wat and I am struggling sometime

[trail falcon]

took me 53 tries to stage 3 bug

[vocal vale]

...
anyway I think as the org. ver of this bug I think burst matters

its so fucking hard man

half an hour already

[trail falcon]

https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=36390&snA=2725
you need to use battery saver mode, have youtube open in a small window playing simulatenously while you play the game

there's also a bilibili video link

I spent 2 hours

[eternal heath]

LMAO

[trail falcon]

honestly just do it on emulator its way more consistent and less trouble

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aK411o7gq/?spm_id_from=autoNext

there's also this vid, I use the hopping between characters technique and the esc-technique

[vocal vale]

hmm

time to blast music as well

if u click escape button earlier does it affect

[trail falcon]

I will be attempting the bug again in 6 hrs and I will stream it if you're online

[vocal vale]

nah asleep

[eternal heath]

6 hours is 4 am for me, ill be asleep

[trail falcon]

btw redd the simulation instakill bug idk if its reproducible on normal stages but I couldn't reproduce it

also not sure if you need specific units but I don't have drake

[vocal vale]

bloody hell :/

[leaden wren]

mm I see

well probaly for the better thoguh

[vocal vale]

man this bug

did it get harder or wat

oh god fuck just stop moving

ffs 1 hour already

I got life to attend to u fucking pos digger

ironic part is the first try was the best

sigh give up

stage 7

the LOOT

[leaden wren]

wait what

is thatr real?

I clear t9 on the daily

[vocal vale]

yes

[leaden wren]

and I have never seen that much purple

the fk

[vocal vale]

plz dont hit me

oh stage 8 is 12m

[eternal heath]

yeah wt ath efuck LOL

[ocean radish]

are yall abusing le bug

[vocal vale]

no

not on phase 3

[ocean radish]

sounds like hell

[vocal vale]

30K

[ocean radish]

whats the team ur using

[leaden wren]

t7 on 30k is really really good

is that a scarlet team

hes using yulha too

[eternal heath]

i couldn't do it

[vocal vale]

hmm?

wat 30k my ass

30k is after the purple items

[leaden wren]

thats even better

whats your tema

[vocal vale]

liter yuni alice yulha helm + bugs until phase 3 cuz I cant

[leaden wren]

ah bug I see

[vocal vale]

I cant get the bug on phase 3 man :v
is there a misunderstanding

no scarlet man

[leaden wren]

I thought you decided to do it without bug

and I was thinking you had this mega bigbrain team using yulha

[vocal vale]

that would be skill issue
because I have pro player level aim

[ocean radish]

mans play valorant deadass 1 tap machine

[leaden wren]

did Deli post his hit rate stuff on findings yet

[vocal vale]

bruh even with that much purple item I couldnt get through 11-6

[ocean radish]

sounds about right

[eternal heath]

hm? what power req is 11-6?

[vocal vale]

spending my credits

[vocal vale]

30700

[eternal heath]

i do remember walls for 11 being 11-3, 11-6 and 11-15

[vocal vale]

28k --> 30.7k

[atomic gyro]

i think you mean allen's

My work so busy lately

Gotta demo to google dudes tmr morning

[eternal heath]

and he technically has, though merged with the damage formula

[leaden wren]

yea I didn't know whose it is since I didnt contribute to that one

[leaden wren]

GLGL

[restive idol]

it was allen and psidra who was doing the testing yesterday

[leaden wren]

well anywas make sure to post whats not

so we dont lose research

[atomic gyro]

To the Alexening

[leaden wren]

maybe its also better if we ask laif to include the bug too

[restive idol]

tl;dr hit rate makes bullet spread more compact which in turn affects accuracy and hit/effective range and not only applicable to shotgun but all weapon aside RL and SR

[leaden wren]

im gonna be mostly free tmr hopefully game does something

[eternal heath]

our issue with hit rate is the source of it in game is so little it might as well kind of do nothing

[atomic gyro]

Game does T10 equip sale

[restive idol]

yeah only simu gives stonks hit rate buff so its too hard to test

[eternal heath]

and i genuinely cant even tell if the simu hit rate buff works or not

yesterday i tried it with and without and couldnt notice anything

but i forgot to test if sugar's s3 is any different once i took it off

it might be the case that the higher hit rate you go the stronger it becomes

[restive idol]

with and without hit rate

[eternal heath]

the issue is this was with my hit rate simu buff

[restive idol]

@leaden wren

[eternal heath]

im not sure if removed how much worse (or no change) it will be

but yeah thanks for that i forgot i took those images

[restive idol]

but it still shows that hit rate does something than being garbo if not only for the little multipliers for units

[leaden wren]

What's up?

[eternal heath]

see the reply rai sent with 'with and without hit rate"

i sent two images that time showing off sugar buff

to understand the importance of hit rate

[restive idol]

the photo for hit rate

[leaden wren]

I see it

So it only contributes to spread?

[ocean radish]

imma test this out

[leaden wren]

I can't test rn I'm about to bedge

[eternal heath]

mmhm

[ocean radish]

if nearer gives more

[eternal heath]

I dont think so, since RL works at any range, but go ahead

[restive idol]

it's aight it can't be tested further either way since outside simu there's barely anyone giving hit rate buff

[leaden wren]

Can someone run sugar and see if burst changes the effective range using blue cross hair?

[eternal heath]

that was sugar

[leaden wren]

Just cross hair over enemies

[restive idol]

that just shows that IF there were stonks buff of hit rate available outside simu it could be a good buff

[eternal heath]

from what i could tell eff range doesnt change at all

[ocean radish]

what to do?

i have sugar

[eternal heath]

tested with damage though, not crosshair, since i didnt know

[eternal heath]

go to simulation

[leaden wren]

Yea I think crosshair would be better

[eternal heath]

get used to sugar's range

then proceed to get the hit rate buff

slap hit rate cube

get whatever hit rate buffs

[leaden wren]

Just highlight over enemies

[eternal heath]

and see if the effective range increases

[ocean radish]

ok

[leaden wren]

Blue crosshair means effective range

[eternal heath]

im gonna go test the R units for fun and check their charges

[leaden wren]

See if her burst changes the range for blue crosshair

Tbh though I am inclined to agree with @eternal heath

Because if it affects effective range

Does it affect the range backwards also

Like probably not lol

[ocean radish]

im just gonna run R units and sugar

[leaden wren]

Yoroshikuuu

[ocean radish]

its a strategy buff right?

[leaden wren]

I need sleep

Should be yea

[eternal heath]

gngn

[ocean radish]

cya

[atomic gyro]

no sleep 4 u

[leaden wren]

Nite nite

[eternal heath]

#1042458757843656774 message gonna update this with the R units

[leaden wren]

No Alex jail plz

[atomic gyro]

i will be back in th next month

i will drag u

[leaden wren]

[atomic gyro]

Research Dungeon

[ocean radish]

Dude im not gettung any hit rate in sims

💀

[eternal heath]

i forgot if its a strategy or offensive buff

[unborn glacier]

send me results once you have them

[unborn glacier]

send me data! lol

[unborn glacier]

thanks, will input it soon, rushing stuff here before mainteance

[eternal heath]

no rush to input the data, i dont think anyone uses the R units

(no offence to the dozen of R unit enjoyers out there)

[eternal heath]

hi @fringe junco im typing here because there's no slow mode and technically it should be in this thread anyway

I can give you a simple example, harran s1 applies a poison, lets say it does "10%" of her attack. The poison lasts 5 seconds, and ticks every second. so that would mean it would deal 10% of her atk 5 times, yes. Lets treat this as the baseline.

in case 1, lets assume the poison debuff is snapshotted on application. so, if harran has 1000 attack, and the poison is applied, then the 10% poison tick every second would do:
100 damage, 100 damage, 100 damage, 100 damage, 100 damage
for a total of 500 damage. even if harran gets buffed to 2000 attack halfway through this poison effect, it wouldn't change the damage output of the poison because it was calculated as 1000 attack when the debuff was applied.

in case 2, lets assume the poison debuff is calculated every instance of damage. so lets say harran has 1000 attack now and applies the poison. the 10% poison tick every second does...
100 damage, 100 damage ok- but what if between second 2 and 3, harran gains a buff, or charges up her skill. lets just go with a simple 50% attack buff. so harran now has 1500 attack. IF the poison is calculated per instance of damage, then the follow poison ticks will deal 150 damage, 150 damage, 150 damage since harran's attack is now 1500.

so with the conversation earlier, I'm wondering if charge affects her DoT too, as if she charges, to 250%, and it follows case 2, her DoT damage on tick would be increased by 250% as well, so if it would have done 100 damage, then now it does 250 damage.

[fringe junco]

only harran is OP then?

[eternal heath]

@lone stream @plush gazelle you can read above, i hope its clear enough

[plush gazelle]

what

[eternal heath]

no, i dont think it actually matters too much, I just want to learn how DoTs are programmed in the game lol

[plush gazelle]

u pinged the wrong guy bro

[eternal heath]

right person but you already understood what i was typing

[plush gazelle]

kekw

[eternal heath]

so didnt need to pong

[plush gazelle]

fine

[lone stream]

Heya :D

Ah ! Thank you @eternal heath

[eternal heath]

it should be simple to test, except the issue is harran's poison is rng to apply, and I literally dont have harran

[trail falcon]

Pretty sure i've seen my poison dmg fluctuating from harran

[unborn glacier]

@eternal heath wow there is an R unit with decent burst build up

[eternal heath]

yeah, p23 is part of the fast shotgun squad

didnt test the other r units cause maint happened

[unborn glacier]

lol

id appreciate some of the existing units (those with no time range) retested/verified

so im sure it the numbers are arent a fluke hehe

[leaden wren]

harran has always been overpowered

much more than scarlet in critcurrent state

I said this on numerous occasions

IN campaign only though I will add

im gonna morb

but at least pilgrim boots

Preliminary DMG testing between a standard no pilgrim shotgun team (not-skilled) and shotgun + scarlet (Full skilled)

Baseline:
51k power on standard shotgun
53k power on Shotgun +1.

1:18 mins total time for Team 1 - Standard Shotgun Team (No Pilgrim):
Liter Drake Maiden Sugar Dolla
Drake, dealing the most dmg, aimed for interruption. (Only unit with leveled skill, about 1200 atk less than Scarlet with same gear)
Observation:
-Reached Phase 3 really quickly because Drill moves closer due to not interrupting in Phase 2.

• Slower to kill phase 3 because drill is really far away.
• extremely consistent interruptions apart from phase 2. However, because of this, it keeps the drill further away than optimal dmg range.

1:08 mins total time for Team 2 - Shotgun + 1 (scarlet):
Liter Drake Scarlet Sugar Dolla
Drake, aimed for interruption.
Scarlet dealt the most dmg, about 15% more than drake. (maxed levelled skill (4))
Observations:

• Slower to reach Phase 3 because lower uptime on Phase 2 drill, depends on who you talk to this might be a detriment.
• Faster kill time after Phase 2. Since Drill is always far away.
• Decently good interruption, missing a few on phase 3, but this can be a good thing as it moves the drill closer.

NEED ISABEL DATA PLEASE

man I fking forgot to take a picture like an idiot

[unborn glacier]

@leaden wren I don't get the test goal/methodology 😂

[leaden wren]

Just full claer

kill time test

which is better dps/team

[plush gazelle]

goal should be: which is better? scarlet shotgun or shotgun only

[leaden wren]

to compare the usage of scarlet do you need her or nah

[unborn glacier]

With bug or no bug?

[leaden wren]

no bug oc

[plush gazelle]

no bug

[leaden wren]

ofc

[plush gazelle]

his power level is high af

he doesn’t need the bug

[unborn glacier]

He doesn't need it

[plush gazelle]

[unborn glacier]

I do

[plush gazelle]

it shouldn’t change anything anyway

[leaden wren]

even better you can see here that scarlet has better dmg

whne you bug boss out

[plush gazelle]

just comparing DPS

[unborn glacier]

What comp need pair with Isabel and without?

I don't have drake

[leaden wren]

need drake so cant really

[unborn glacier]

Okay.. sorry then.. we can test Isabelle later in coop if need be

[leaden wren]

you could test isabel and scarlet dmg potential that works too

do you have sugar?

[unborn glacier]

Yes I have sugar

[leaden wren]

ok good, if you gonna be bugging I thin running isabel scarlet sugar is a good idea

[unborn glacier]

Dude

I don't have scarlet

[leaden wren]

do you only have isabel?

[unborn glacier]

If you meant for pilgrims. Then yes

[leaden wren]

man

alright

[unborn glacier]

She does about same damage as my carry

In a test I did before

O dupe Level 2 skill Isabelle vs my 3 duped level 4 skill guilotine

Or are you more concerned in overall team build?

[leaden wren]

yea I wanted to test different main DPS for the standard shotgun team

I think you can also try isabel too and see what you think

the reason why I mention Drake is because she is usually one of the unit people also use in a standard shotgun team

[unborn glacier]

Ahh, my problem with Isabel build is that my Dolla and Isabel are under leveled skill and bond wise

[leaden wren]

what im thinking rn is that Isabel will probably have th highest dps

[unborn glacier]

She should

[leaden wren]

since she has time to shine in Grave Digger

[unborn glacier]

If you build it right

[leaden wren]

I just dont have isabel to test

[unborn glacier]

Are you okay with a 30 second damage output test?

That's roughly phase 1

Going into phase 2 for me

[leaden wren]

yea.. but the problem is the dmg flunctuates a lot in the duration of phase 2 and 3. in phase 2 shotgun team without scarlet would absolutely destroy the boss

[unborn glacier]

No bug

[leaden wren]

because of how close the boss gets close to you

but I think any info is good info yea

[unborn glacier]

Hmm

[leaden wren]

but assuming shotgun team

it should be the same case for standard with isabel

I tihnk

it would be better to test after you can clear the boss without bug

since we're only using cases of GD here

[unborn glacier]

Baseline/control numbers

[unborn glacier]

Okay, if you want clear data.. then I'll need to reach maybe level 130ish

[unborn glacier]

@still drift
your google sheet lacked level 51 outpost.. so here is the data

also the credits to damage formula is kinda "wrong" in the sheet

core dust i "think" stops at a certain point/level?
ive been at 792/24h
or
33/h
for the past few outpost levels

[leaden wren]

nah

im at 42/h

[unborn glacier]

hmm.. so thats weird

[leaden wren]

yea the rate it increases is really really low

[unborn glacier]

ill check again at my next outpst defense

[leaden wren]

its like 5 outpost level per 1 increase

[unborn glacier]

ahh probably yes

[leaden wren]

keep in mind im outpost 72

[still drift]

I don't know where these people are coming from

Last time I checked nobody linked my sheet this recently

[unborn glacier]

it was pinned

[still drift]

[unborn glacier]

also, saw my comment about damage formula credits?

[unborn glacier]

now i know

[still drift]

Ah could you link me the comment? I didnt see

[unborn glacier]

have you checked the damage formula i typed up?

so we on same page

[still drift]

Uh, where?

[unborn glacier]

#1042628800564973658

check the "credits" section..
TLDR, the original source of damage formula is from NGA taiwan forum. the CN guide just copy pasted/commented on it. they arent the source/credit for it

my family is taiwanese.. so maybe im a little more sensitive to it 😂

[still drift]

Hm, it seems like an updated version. I'll implement this in an hour or two if you want?

[unborn glacier]

define updated?

😂

[still drift]

https://www.gamer.cn/nikke/article/15049

There was a little harder to understand formula from this page

[unborn glacier]

an actual comment on the guide in chinese 😂

[still drift]

Yeah a little bit abstract

[unborn glacier]

how about the ones we translated/ polished?

anything we need clarify/polish to help you?

[still drift]

Give me an hour before I take a look at it, kinda out and about atm

[unborn glacier]

sure

[unborn glacier]

@leaden wren @eternal heath @restive idol what time we experimenting coop? XD

[leaden wren]

we can do it now

[unborn glacier]

are the others online?

[leaden wren]

or we can do after 3 runs first

[unborn glacier]

for sure after 3 runs

or you can carry me

[leaden wren]

come others are here

[unborn glacier]

booting game now

how i join?

and who i bring?

[leaden wren]

I'll invite ya

[unborn glacier]

we doing voice?

[leaden wren]

I cant im in office

but others in voice

I invited

[unborn glacier]

in general?

kasu and other?

[leaden wren]

ye general

[unborn glacier]

red add the others

[eternal heath]

i can barely access my phone, im at a naval base atm

when i get on ships to do my work i need to keep my phone cause its a red zone

only avail later at night

do let me know how coop is like tho

[leaden wren]

no worries we can play with you even after 3 runs

this is what its like

[eternal heath]

[unborn glacier]

you got disconnected when?

[leaden wren]

Since the start

[unborn glacier]

okay, we try again in few mins

[unborn glacier]

invite again huhu

[restive idol]

im only available later tonight got some things to do

[still drift]

@unborn glacier The damage formula seems pretty straightforward, I'll get to implementing this by tomorrow.

[unborn glacier]

great

[unborn glacier]

great

[molten robin]

so here's a question

anyone seen datamined info for the 9-4 tactics training upgrade?

[leaden wren]

you dont get jack cock

best thing (golden) mission is 1 ssr mold

not even 5 just 1

[unborn glacier]

for research purposes, hacked reached this damage.. so we can assume train has infintie or near infinite hp
but as per player who played with hacker, they never even reached phase 2

[trail falcon]

I've reached phase 2 dealing far less damage, like 3.6 at the end of the run

[unborn glacier]

yes, ive reached phase 2 dealing only 3.9m

weird behavior

[unborn glacier]

I have theory/hypothesis about why there is no ranking in the coop

its probably cause they know there are still hackers around

[restive idol]

but tbh even if they put rankings how would everyone compete with how unstable its connection is? it'll be just a battle of better internet for stable runs and not being unlucky getting disconnected near end

[unborn glacier]

its supposedly much stable now

[restive idol]

i just played 6 games 20-30 minutes ago and it all got disconnected first thing in the fight

[unborn glacier]

come play with us later XD

once you can

maybe you got really bad apples

[restive idol]

sure just not too late im too tired today had to do a lot of things a while ago

[unborn glacier]

roughly what time? XD

[restive idol]

somewhere 6-7

[eternal heath]

finally home, but is there anything to test

[unborn glacier]

let wait for the others

to test funky stuff lol

[ocean radish]

A

[willow pecan]

alright boyos, gravedigger interception S free 7.6m hack coming in hot

credits to Psidra's bilibili videos, but written in hopefully 100% foolproof english

[unborn glacier]

what?

no laif's guide?

[willow pecan]

wait where's laif's guide

[eternal heath]

more guides are good

i tried laif method as did a friend

adn both couldnt get it to work

[unborn glacier]

yeah but which is better/easier to do

[eternal heath]

so i think multiple ways allows people to test which works best for their system

there's no best

[unborn glacier]

what the bibili video version?

[eternal heath]

[willow pecan]

it's probably the same thing, I'll write it and post sauce so you can compare

[unborn glacier]

sure

[willow pecan]

Interception S bug specifically for mobile users:

1. screen shake on at 100%, high effects quality, high graphics options and max out all graphics including fog level
2. turn off autoburst, skill animation should be off as well
3. at around 2:50 manually click burst 1 and burst 2 so you can instantly burst 3 on demand
4. wait for 2nd set of red circles to show an "X", then burst 3. You want "full burst" to appear on your screen when the small red X shadows spawn. Very finicky timing.
5. don't burst until he goes into second phase
6. use burst 1 and burst 2 during first set of red circles
7. Again, press burst 3 when 2nd set of red circles show an "X"
8. just autoburst and go make coffee, come back to around 7.5m damage done
   https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1L24y127mV/

[leaden wren]

Please post this in #1042628800564973658 as well

[willow pecan]

no problem

[eternal heath]

i have a really really stupid idea.

liter + yuni + triple snow white.

snow white just holds their charges until three full rotations of burst 3 is done

then abuse yuni

would that work

[restive idol]

problem would be missiles can kill you during charging phase since 3 burst 3 are sitting doing nothing but charge

but it could work too 🤔

[unborn glacier]

there is an actual cap to recycle level fyi

[willow pecan]

oh yeah, there are gradual caps related to synchro level

[plush gazelle]

any idea what we should buy using excess event credits? 150 cones for 15 cores seems way too expensive

[unborn glacier]

i bought re-energy

[plush gazelle]

i'm thinking of doing that too but if i'm gonna get gated like this is there even a point

[unborn glacier]

are you that close to level 30?
and that far away from 121?

[plush gazelle]

no idea. i am at level 105 with a fuck ton of hours of battle data. idk how i got it tho

well i say a lot but realistically its a bit more than 24 hours

[unborn glacier]

sounds like a good problem

[trail falcon]

re energy is good, I wouldn't buy cores

cores is the least worth

[plush gazelle]

right?

[trail falcon]

how much battle data do you have ?

[plush gazelle]

i'm doing stages now

i check later

34 hours worth

[unborn glacier]

@still drift
level 52 and 53 outpost

[eternal heath]

oh right a quick update @unborn glacier

RL:
noise
- tests: 58 60 69 65 65
- min: 58
- max: 69
- avg: 63.4

[unborn glacier]

updated doc

[unborn glacier]

@still drift

[atomic gyro]

for you researchers, if you have a list of shit to do, put them in #1043244609586872440, we should make this more organized so we can crowdsource this more effectively

[slim spade]

I cant replicate it on my phone so it may require a kinda scuffed phone to lag out of the boss mechanics

[willow pecan]

Ah, noted. I have a pretty Xiaomi 8 I think, pretty cheapskate stuff

The timing also takes quite a bit of practice, toon me around 25 tries this morning

[slim spade]

well it could be timing, i dunno. I tried various bursts right when the 47 ticks to 46 seconds as thats the same time in the video but it never worked for me. I also noticed how much the game was lagging during the mechanic skip (though might be the recording?) and my game kept running pretty smooth throughout the sequence

[unborn glacier]

@trail falcon

This is my dispatch today

[trail falcon]

not bad, tks

[willow pecan]

I believe the particular frame is when the circles disappear and the first small X shadow appears, you want "full burst" to appear on your screen then. It's been consistent for me so far, but that's a tiny sample size so I can't guarantee it works for everyone. Might vary from device to device too.

[eternal heath]

who here has scarlet

just saw a mention about a possible comp

R unit soldier ow, admi, scarlet, privaty, flex unit (probably helm)

[unborn glacier]

i think thats the super fast reload comp?

not good for story pushing though

[eternal heath]

any video of it in action i kinda wanna see it

not like i can use it though, no scarlet

[leaden wren]

its not good as 1 liter

level 8 snow white burst only for it to deal the exact same dmg as level 4

and level 1

[slim spade]

hmm. I'll keep trying though that doesn't seem to be what's happening during the reference video, at least for the first burst. The full burst sign shows up like several frames before the circles even disappear. It could also be that you do need to be frame perfect, but the laggier you can make your game run, the more leeway you have to proc it. Have others been able to replicate it?

[willow pecan]

can ignore the first and second bursts

those are tossed out of the way intentionally so you can instantly proc "full burst" at the desired frame(s), they are not relevant to the bug at all from what I understand.

but yeah, need more data from other people

burst 3 --> "full burst" at right frame is the cause of the bug, as far as I can understand.

[slim spade]

ah I meant the first full burst. It appears as there is still a sliver of red in the circle and that's what I've been going by. But I do hope this is reproduceable cause i need that gear T_T

[plush gazelle]

pog no admi

[slim spade]

Okay! Great news. I managed to replicate the entire bug and reached to stage 7. (got a T7 Attacker glove too praise RNJesus) I managed to do this by finding my old phone and downloading Nikke there and using that. On the highest settings with all sliders maxed out, the fight was noticeably laggier just like in the video. Upon doing that, I was able to replicate the first stage cheese with relative accuracy, getting it maybe 1 in 3-4 tries. The timing is still pretty tight, but compared to my current phone where I couldn't do it at all, it was a major improvement. I think this concludes that lag is an important factor in this bug, or at the very least, extends the window of opportunity to replicate it.

The second stage cheese was a lot harder for me to do, but I suspect this is because I am quite undergeared. The two rockets do ridiculous damage to my characters and can ko many of the squishier ones. I think if one of your characters die, the trick will be impossible.

This leads me to list some of the things I think are important in replicating the cheese. The first is lag, as I mentioned, which makes this cheese replicable even with boomer reaction like me.

The second is sheer volume of projectiles. I saw in a youtube video about how the game's engine is limited in the amount of objects it can process at once and that if you play the game at 30 fps cap, it will start deleting some of your projectiles and therefore decreasing your damage. Playing at 60 FPS deletes less projectiles. This matched my experience in testing in the shooting range. Therefore, what I think is happening is that we are trying to overload the game engine with objects and events (full burst) such that it deletes/freezes the boss AI due to processing error.

This is also why I think Diesel is a prime choice of character to use as the main nikke. She outputs so many bullets that it really helps in overhwelming the engine. I noticed that everytime she was targetted by the missiles and stunned, it was much harder to cheese the boss. (though I was able to pull it off once)

This calls back to why I think having a character die in the battle will make the cheese much harder - there are just less bullets flying about.

Lastly, I do think having higher powerleveld characters will make this trick a lot easier. There is a lot of rng here, if the missiles target the same character twice, they are basically dead. So ideally, you would probably want enough health so all of your units can survive two missles in someway.

A good test in the future would be if using the 30 fps cap makes this trick easier to replicate by utilizing the game engine limitations. Anyway, thank you for listening to my ted talk

[eternal heath]

btw yan's s3 is a pull effect right, does it work in the blue/red zone defense thing? could you cheese the fight by just using yan s3 and dragging mobs out of the zone?

[restive idol]

no reload comp I was gonna try this after synchro cd

tho no privati and admi was yet only going to test if OW soldier is worth the synchro

[ebon pulsar]

idk if running ow is better then n102 or liter or other atk buffer

[plush gazelle]

isn’t privaty free tho

[restive idol]

not yet on day 14 on main and alt

[plush gazelle]

not day 14

by right 12 can alr

since u only need 70 missions

altho this is assuming you can beat tribe tower

normally 13 then unlock

[restive idol]

then im prolly on day 12 or 13 but haven't completed some of the missions like elysion and missilis floor 10

[plush gazelle]

yeah

by 13 u should have

[restive idol]

since I still dont have today then most likely im on day 12

[plush gazelle]

👍

[restive idol]

i just dont wanna stress it out also im playing more casually now compared to last time

[unborn glacier]

@still drift before

After

TLDR: no change in arc ranking

[restive idol]

same stats cp just improved how is that possible tho

[unborn glacier]

im surprised also

even if the ranking took top 5 units (which i dont think so)
she is my highest ranking elysium

[restive idol]

i thought liter is missilis?

[eternal heath]

idk there's an updated cn tierlist with bugs that has them at top rated so i assume the mad scientists over there decided it was worth it

[unborn glacier]

ohh shit lol

there goes a test wasted

@still drift ill raise someone again in 1-2 days sorry 😂

[restive idol]

stonks reload speed lmao

i was also about to test this but synchro still on cd to test it

[unborn glacier]

no scarlet here to help out test T_T

[ebon pulsar]

@eternal heath I run team with n102 admi scarlet privaty and drake. Will swap to ow and see how it goes but imo it will prob be worse.

[atomic gyro]

Yo @unborn glacier I got enough skill books to do your level 4 -> 5 testing on liter now

Just want power difference right?

[unborn glacier]

@still drift need the ark ranking for manufacturer

[atomic gyro]

Got it

[restive idol]

i mean its testable for other dps aside scarlet

[unborn glacier]

im sure the reload works

just that reload is only issue to specific chars with long cooldown

[restive idol]

true, but hey it could make reloading an insta reload for other units so its still a good thing to test

[vocal vale]

so anyone know how to stable bug GD phase 3?

[unborn glacier]

im sure it works

[atomic gyro]

@still drift

[unborn glacier]

seems correct, a +15

[atomic gyro]

All skills are +15 including burst

[ebon pulsar]

@eternal heath n102/ow admi scarlet privaty drake. Ow is about the same. In my case little lower score in union training.

[vocal vale]

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
I BUGGED PHASE 3
but my damage is not enough

[eternal heath]

F

wtf does scarlet not kill herself

[ebon pulsar]

@eternal heath no lol

I think it takes away hp from current hp

Not from total

[molten robin]

I think you're on the right track, because I have procced the bug without full bursting, for example using rupee I was consistently proccing phase 1, and p sure I procced p3 last night despite being late on my full burst

[atomic gyro]

Drake unbuffed, Drake with 30.2% additional hit rate

[eternal heath]

so it does affect

which means i just got unlucky when i removed the hit rate buff

cause i didt notice a diff when i tried it earlier

[unborn glacier]

30% more ntoiceable

[eternal heath]

but now we got visual cue

[atomic gyro]

This is with 30% on a shotgun though

[eternal heath]

pog

[atomic gyro]

But that's pretty significant

I'll try to get a picture with a full burst hitrate buff from my team as well, try to get buff level 5 too for more hit rate

36.24%

[unborn glacier]

good game design on this part actually

and they actually made ui for this

but didnt tell us 😂

[atomic gyro]

Just that nobody noticed

[unborn glacier]

so blue for effective range

[atomic gyro]

Who has scarlet, maybe if we see the spread of scarlet we can finally see why her AR is leagues better than the regular

Alice hit rate even with 36.24%

[unborn glacier]

thats scarlet circle

?

[atomic gyro]

Alice hit rate even with 36.24%

[eternal heath]

thats so stupid

[unborn glacier]

whats the original?

[atomic gyro]

May or may not have been drake buffed, this was in shooting range

[unborn glacier]

so only small improvement? since the original size was quite small already?

[atomic gyro]

That's my hypothesis, since % based improvement

[eternal heath]

or is there a limit on spread how small it can get?

[unborn glacier]

I think mathematically, its probably some sort of diminishing returns

since small circles dont shrink a lot with hit rate

[atomic gyro]

Wait since the circles are static, that means positioning literally doesn't matter

Will only matter for bursts

nvm am dumb

[unborn glacier]

what?

[atomic gyro]

I forgot that view perspectives were different to positioning

[unborn glacier]

@eternal heath saw it floating on reddit (ewww)
done in COOP

[eternal heath]

wtf

[atomic gyro]

No idea if y'all still need this but will post for good measure

[unborn glacier]

i checked rayel's file

he has that already

[atomic gyro]

Alright

Where's rayel's file? So I can pin it here

[unborn glacier]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cbMB9KQeAvL_PDT8t29ipRWB5UnfkKguVElad_DUB4s

[trail falcon]

@unborn glacier hit rate is better than charge dmg for snipers, this was unexpected

[unborn glacier]

charge damage scales poorly mathematically

so not surprised

[atomic gyro]

isn't it charge speed?

[trail falcon]

is it not worth even for characters like harran that abuse charge dmg bug ?

[unborn glacier]

the cube is charge damage

[unborn glacier]

let me show sample math

[atomic gyro]

Ah you're right

[trail falcon]

I will have reload speed cube level 2 tomorrow so I'll try it with that tomorrow as well to see the comparison between the three cubes

[unborn glacier]

harran charge damage max is 250%
adding
2.54% to it is like.. extra 1% damage? and you might have to charge longer per shot also

hit rate is a little harder to math, but like more core hits = more + 100% damage

[unborn glacier]

might need more unit variety

reloard would impact slow reload unit more

[atomic gyro]

@still drift Outpost 50

Pics for proof

[still drift]

Tactics Academy Progression?

[atomic gyro]

Maxed

[still drift]

[manic widget]

Lemme see mafs for when you test resilience cube on scarlet

[unborn glacier]

thanks

[manic widget]

Grats for what

[unborn glacier]

sorry need coffee

[manic widget]

Agreed

[eternal heath]

by the way, shouldn't we post this in research findings or something #1042458757843656774 message

[unborn glacier]

Need TLDR

way too long

my brain fried reading it.. and i was trying to TLDR it

[eternal heath]

ok

i cant really write a summary either because i dont do the bug so cant firsthand experience it

[unborn glacier]

@hollow vector
just saw your guide
under the range/weapon types, the effective ranges for the weapons is wrong

[hollow vector]

oh wtf

oh i rember something somewhere about how ar's were actually good at long range, but i dont remember it

[unborn glacier]

the in game's effective range. doest work like that in the actual game

[unborn glacier]

#1042628800564973658
under damage formula

[hollow vector]

updated, thanks for pointing it out

[unborn glacier]

welcome

@hollow vector I noticed a typo on my end
the MG is mid and long range.. i think

ill do more testing to verify later

[molten violet]

👍

[unborn glacier]

@molten violet
rewards for each right?

[hollow vector]

google translate says long range, prydwen says 35-55

[molten violet]

yeah

[unborn glacier]

give me a minute, middle of battle XD

[molten violet]

cool np

[unborn glacier]

the rewards are cumulative

so if you finish sector 1, all the rewards will subtract what you got from sector 1

[molten violet]

I see ok

Thank you!

[unborn glacier]

sector 6 rewards lost sector

[unborn glacier]

the reward is for reload cube upgrade

[eternal heath]

bonjour

got an alice and volume dupe

so will ss effects on tetra

@unborn glacier is it just ss before lb, and ss after lb

or is there other stuff i need to do

[unborn glacier]

@still drift this is for you, do you need LB testing data?

[eternal heath]

there's no rush to reply btw i dont use either o fthem

might use volume just for combat power inflation but thats about it

i almost shortformed combat power there but then i realised how terrible it sounded with inflation afterwards

[still drift]

No, I've already figured out that LBs for SSR and SRs give 300 and 50 manufacturers points respectively.

And they give flat stats, which is already accounted for in Power calculations.

[eternal heath]

aight, ill just pop them up then

[still drift]

[slim spade]

I actually managed to do this too today with Diesel and Rupee, but only on the Phase 1 skip. Basically what happened was I was too early on my full burst but I kept firing Diesel at the boss. Specifically, I hit the boss weakpoint (parts which flash upon hit) By pouring Diesels disgusting bullets per second, the boss just skipped the mechanic at times.

I was unable to do this again for Phase 2 skip, presumably because the boss loses its weakpoints so there's nothing to shoot at. I think each bullet hitting the weakpoints counts as an individual event (after all, the game has to process the hit to make it flash) and all those events overflow and make the boss skip its mechanic.

[unborn glacier]

there is a new and easier bug

but you need a bit of power/damage to pull it off

[slim spade]

😮 do tell

[unborn glacier]

1. play on manual (duh)
2. make sure you have some kind of time-slow mo girl in team(ex.anis or drake) ... dont play her
3. when burst is ready, fire your gun (time it when red circles are out)
4. while holding fire, trigger your burst skill until the time stop happens
5. keep holding the fire and shoot the red circles

Note:
a. only your manual controlled girl will shoot, so if she doesnt have enough damage to take out the circles.. then this wont be useful

[eternal heath]

[slim spade]

hmm I see

then i guess charge weapons cant do this probably?

[unborn glacier]

i didnt test, but i assume doesnt.. but who knows.. it might work

right now, i cant do enough damage for phase 2's 3 red circles

trying to figure out how to do more

[slim spade]

ah I see. I'll try testing it out after reset

[eternal heath]

massively disadvantaged id say

[unborn glacier]

i guess since i typed this out, ill put in research finding

[slim spade]

I also assume you need to get the phase done immediately after? because you wont have burst again once its done

[eternal heath]

you can fail 2 circles after passing 1 iirc

which should be enough to get burst back up

[slim spade]

alright I see. Well if this works out it will certainly look a lot less like an exploit lol

compared to afk boss

[eternal heath]

GD really is just a shotgun check

[slim spade]

which I would certainly use... If I had any

[unborn glacier]

i have a high burst build in the team, + liter and dolla
so should go up, after maybe missing the 1st round of red circle

[unborn glacier]

shot guns are good, but my SG's cant take out the red circles in time T_T

[willow pecan]

that's actually kind of genius 🤔 powerful

anis getting even more usage

unimaginable

[leaden wren]

73 74 @still drift

[unborn glacier]

omg omg omg!

REDD LIVES!

[leaden wren]

I should start getting purples from outpost now

[atomic gyro]

OH FUCK

REDD'S BACK

The rage is over :D

[leaden wren]

idk about back lets see this weeks patch

[eternal heath]

welcum bek redd

[leaden wren]

this game better fixes some shit or I go fly in the clouds

[atomic gyro]

we will ping you every single patch

[leaden wren]

also~~ can't believe im still popo~~

[atomic gyro]

It's been like, two days since you disappeared

[leaden wren]

I go level 10 next patch if it fixes

[eternal heath]

whats your snow white's power now?

[atomic gyro]

probably OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAND

[leaden wren]

max is only 12.5k I think

its even lower than my drake

shows how much power attraction actually gives

its like equivalent to 7-8 levels

even higher with more lb's ofc

but im 100rolls dry for any ssrs anyways so

[trail falcon]

redd which stages did you use novel again ? you mentioned 13-18, 13-24 what else ?

[leaden wren]

14-1 to 14-11 I think I also just used novel

I also used novel just now for 15-9

And 15-11 I believe

14-30 I also used novel

Hard to remember since I replace her really often with dolla centi admi and poli

Keep in mind i do not have rupee

In a lot of cases I think I wouldn't use novel at all if it weren't for the power deficit

My novel is lb3 and 15 attraction which made her my highest burst2 power by far

[trail falcon]

oh...

did you use her for the train in 13-15 ?

not sure if she's good for train

[leaden wren]

I did yes

I believe I used novel for most if not all the bosses

[trail falcon]

aight, I'll invest in her

gonna retire centi and try novel tomorrow for the train

[leaden wren]

I wonder if you can check clear info for previous missions somehow

Probably not since it's nikke

[trail falcon]

you can but its riddled with hacker clears and you can't get info on legit clears

[unborn glacier]

you can, with diifculty

hold n

I can see redd's formation

[leaden wren]

Ah back when I don't have harran pepelaugh

I don't have good memories so I often get stuff swapped

Glad to know I'm right that I used novel for this one though

[unborn glacier]

from psidra:
if you are on a emulator landscape, set ur height to below 1100px, so 1920x1080, the cooldown will appear in game

[atomic gyro]

can confirm, have used landscape before and saw cooldowns

but awkward as fuck since the game doesn't support native landscape

[trail falcon]

I think that's because he's in your friend's list or guild member

[unborn glacier]

yes of course

i did say with difficulty

[trail falcon]

I don't know anyone in KR server so my clear list is filled with hackers

[unborn glacier]

none of you union members father than you?

[trail falcon]

no xd

[unborn glacier]

ahh, bad succcess then XD

[trail falcon]

There's like 2 guys in my world who are on my tail in terms of progress, but I'm like 1-2 days ahead of them in terms of progress I think. Unless they IAP, I don't think they will catch up

[lean shadow]

@whole fox @warped mural @summer coyote
I did 2 runs of each: Liter x N102 x Admi x Scarlet x Privaty/Yulha

Yulha Results:
1st run : 14.5m overall damage

2nd run: 14.2m overall damage

Priv Results:
1st run: 13.4m overall damage (probably got cursed rng on auto)

2nd run: 14.4m overall damage

[summer coyote]

we could get better results if you manual'd

[lean shadow]

too much skill

[summer coyote]

i dont even know how people use auto

[whole fox]

Skill issue lmao

[summer coyote]

ive been using manual since the start of the game