Modded Assets Discussion

[grand gyro]

wtf

[south dagger]

yup

[ancient schooner]

which ones did it work for?

[south dagger]

noah's naga_01

didnt work: all others i tried so far (only like 3 or 4)

[ancient schooner]

hm

[south dagger]

all these files are decrypted and loaded by my tool

green = work
red = no work
yellow = didnt try yet

it seems to load the skeleton, but texture is just purple

[grand gyro]

maybe they actually need to be repacked

dunno why

send me c202 standing

[south dagger]

actually im not sure if it even loads the skel

cuz this is supposed to be novel and not maiden i think

nah its not cuz of repack

cuz

[grand gyro]

c181_00_standing_moddoesntwork was maiden

u sent this

[south dagger]

wtf

so

@fleet current scammed me

wtf is that mod then

[ancient schooner]

LOL

[grand gyro]

maybe you just tagged it wrong?

c180 original isn't even original it's skin swap lmao

[ancient schooner]

try this

[grand gyro]

mkay

[south dagger]

ideally need a skin swap

i mean

character swap

then i can see if it loads everything except the texture

[grand gyro]

okay I see pink

[south dagger]

i wonder why the maiden mod redownloaded for u

cuz for me the maiden mod was pink

this one should also redownload for u if its invalid like maiden mod :?

[grand gyro]

no it didn't redownload

[south dagger]

hm

[grand gyro]

you tagged them wrong

[south dagger]

ah rly

original is the mod?

xD

[grand gyro]

yeah lol

[south dagger]

ah my bad

[grand gyro]

c181_00_standing_moddoesntwork is original

original is a skin swap

and I got pink texture

[grand gyro]

pink for this too

[ancient schooner]

hm

[grand gyro]

let's see what happens if I repack in my way

[small yoke]

idk if this matters but most of standing Na0h mods needed to match the texture format to RGBA32 in UABEA, when most of non modded swaps are BC7 or something

[ancient schooner]

do the new character files have RGBA32 format?

[small yoke]

Idk about the latest og files but I think just a few were RGBA32 by default

I think Maiden og summer skin was RGBA32 already, don't remember

[ancient schooner]

just checked some files

a lot of the modded ones are RGBA32

the ones that are skin swaps seem to mainly be BC7

every mod maker has theirs in RGBA32

miagi, sei, ect

[small yoke]

when I swapped RGBA32 with BC7 not matching the texture I had pink or invisible swaps

[ancient schooner]

how're you getting them to load in game?

[small yoke]

I meant before mods were dead

[ancient schooner]

ah

[small yoke]

[ancient schooner]

I'm checking the last original files I have before

[small yoke]

altought same applies to Na0h lobby mods

[ancient schooner]

vipers 02 file was BC7

[hearty dome]

new quency seems to be BC7 as well...

I don't really change the format when I mod...

[small yoke]

for example to add Na0h Clay segs lobby to Android you need to match te texture to RGBA32 because default lobby is BC7 if I remember well

I remember to help someone on DCI with that swap

[grand gyro]

it is the metadata

[sudden ore]

The format changed when you edit them with spine pro

[hearty dome]

I don't have spine pro...

[grand gyro]

damn

modding is gonna be hard

you need a valid metadata I think

[sudden ore]

SU won't give up to kill mod lmao

[grand gyro]

to make that skin swap work I did a full bundle swap

take c181_02 bundle and rename all resources, bundle name, and container name to c181_00's

c181_02.png is fine because atlas specifies it

[hearty dome]

but does that only apply to skin swaps?`what about edited pngs?

[small yoke]

so We're back to the old days where We needed to swap everything over again after every game update?

[grand gyro]

edited pngs are fine I think

[grand gyro]

nmm's method shouldn't need repacks

[hearty dome]

at least a little bit of hope

[grand gyro]

I was using a different approach

[small yoke]

well for some new skins We even need to use a hex editor for the swap so a few more steps are fine if mods revived

[south dagger]

yeah repack is not the issue

its smth else

having issues determining what

to me it feels like theres an issue loading the texture for some files

because character shows up but just pink

how can they show up if the skel doesnt load

it must be the texture

[fleet current]

I told you it’s maiden

[fleet current]

Dan truly

Skel needs to match against SkeletonData

Which isn’t true for 99.99% of mods

[south dagger]

scammer

[south dagger]

no

something else wrong

dunno what, but that was just a bait

i think its something about the pngs

[wanton gate]

Release a game cracking course then

[fleet current]

RGBA32 vs BC7?

[tribal shadow]

You guys have fun, huh?

[ancient schooner]

one thing gets said

then another

a theory is brought out

more questions than answers

[tribal shadow]

I'll just stand by and watch since I can't do shit without the program

[south dagger]

npe

i mean

if someone wanna expirement i can send some small wip thingy maybe

[ancient schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-disappears-no-extra-pay-gif-23105584

[tribal shadow]

[south dagger]

can someone replace the .png file in both of these with just a full black png?

no other mod just replace png with blackness

[lament ruin]

if jeff wouldnt waste his time pinging he could have done that already

[south dagger]

must be the same full black png in both

so just load the same file into both

if im able to load one of them but not the other then i can rule out that the .png is the issue

[half bone]

lemme try

[south dagger]

ty

weird

u didnt do anything except change the png right

[scarlet pollen]

correct

i didn't compress the files with UABEA

[south dagger]

both of them seem to not work but its not loading the files at all

i think they need to be compressed mby

[fleet current]

Nah I highly doubt it’s related to encoding. It also shouldn’t be pink just garbled when the encoding is specified incorrectly

[south dagger]

not loading the skel at all for both of these

pink = missing texture

but ye she doesnt show up at all with these 2 bundles, i think they need to be compressed

[fleet current]

I’m at Walmart

Give me money for checkout I’m poor

[lament ruin]

dont thery have a discount for workers

[south dagger]

ArrayTypeMismatchException: Attempted to access an element as a type incompatible with the array.

[south dagger]

ty

[south dagger]

yup saw it

hopefully these 2 work

otherwise idk wtf is wrong with these bundles

cuz they werent even loading the skel

_01

i think _01 was the one that was working before

lemme try _02

nvm

_02

[ancient schooner]

okay so it shows black

that's something

[south dagger]

it means the .png is not the problem

the only difference between these 2 bundles is the .skel and .atlas

fuck me

i have no idea

could be

_Atlas file

but doesnt make sense

dunno where this pathId resolves to

but idk fuck me that isnt gonna be it

ye idk i have no idea

[ancient schooner]

did you check with a new file?

[south dagger]

probably something in _SkeletonData then but for some reason n0ahs naga mod _cover and _aim works even tho their _SkeletonData is not correct

wdym new file

[ancient schooner]

a maiden standing file from the games folder

[scarlet pollen]

have you tested any other mods from me? or just naga aim and cover?

[south dagger]

Yes thats the one that turns black

[ancient schooner]

yikes

[south dagger]

Skin swap if we swap ALL files (_SkeletonData _Atlas etc) also works

Skin swap without swapping those doesnt work

Or at least not the ones we tried

[hearty dome]

so mods where only the png is edited work, but skin swaps and mods where the skel file is edited are causing problems?

just tried to quickly read everything here... 🙃

[tribal shadow]

_Atlas issue

[hearty dome]

damn

[fleet current]

I mean it sounds like the game is verifying atlas and skel against metadata for standing mods

but still retains old behavior for cover+aim

If so, then without being able to generate new metadata that matches modded skel and atlas, then standing mods ded, unless the mod is just drawing/painting on the vanilla PNG

[fleet current]

Have you tried other cover and aim mods?

See my hypothesis above

[dry light]

dan torturing him self to revive mods and me fking my self for one more core dust

[tribal shadow]

also, surprisingly the only mods that are getting fucked by this are standing and mostly those

[fleet current]

I mean it sounds like the game is verifying atlas and skel against metadata for standing mods

[tribal shadow]

yup

just swap the whole insides of the bundle

[fleet current]

This basically makes it clear what's going on

[fleet current]

Yeah but almost any standing mod that isn't a swap will be dead

[tribal shadow]

jeff, you make it a big deal out of it

just swap the _Altas and _SkeletonData from the same file you got .png .skel and .atlas

[dry light]

if the game is verifying the standing mods are they developing away to know if u using a mods or not?

[fleet current]

They already know

[dry light]

[fleet current]

This isn't about detection, it's about killing standing mods

[tribal shadow]

jeff, please

[fleet current]

1. Spine creates live2d png, skel, and atlas for NIKKE
2. SU develops internal tools to generate metadata for skel and atlas
3. SU makes the client check skel and atlas against metadata that are generated by their private tools. If they don't pass, they don't load

[tribal shadow]

[tribal shadow]

how do you know? tested it personally? if not, then don't say something you just "assume"

[fleet current]

are you dense

give me a single example of any seireiko or miagi mod or na0h mod where that would work

[tribal shadow]

[fleet current]

https://tenor.com/view/skateparkge-gif-27311724

[tribal shadow]

for me you're just talking out your ass rn ngl

[fleet current]

I don't know I just read what Dan says

and repeat what Dan said

[tribal shadow]

I know what Dan said

and you make a huge deal out of it

[fleet current]

I don't understand how repeating what Dan said makes it a huge or small deal

[dry light]

i don't so i appreciate it either way

[fleet current]

it is what it is

[tribal shadow]

the way you said it did

[half bone]

either way, all we can do is wait for Dani and help him out if he asks for something

[tribal shadow]

yup

[dry light]

just wondering since i remember some mods used to work only if they left as NA in nnm

dose it have to do anything maybe?

[carmine briar]

Wdym

[south dagger]

Seems so but im not 100% sure

Not 100% sure what causes it yet

Seems like _Atlas or _SkeletonData causing issues

Need to investigate more

_Atlas has a pointer to a "Materials" file, invalid materials file could be causing it not sure yet

[south dagger]

Can someone put the _Atlas file from 02 into 01?

Not .atlas

_Atlas

Also make sure bundle is compressed

[south dagger]

Ty

Also

Hm

So it is possible to generate the _Atlas and _SkeletonData with unity

[tribal shadow]

the runtime does, yup

[wanton gate]

[sterile egret]

maybe it will be automatically generated when imported

[tribal shadow]

I wonder if it's able to be simulated using same runtime but outside of unity

[tribal shadow]

it is

I mean, for unity

[sterile egret]

i agree

i haven't done it before so idk XD

[south dagger]

hopefully its just _Atlas

easier to fix than if its _SkeletonData

cuz _Atlas u can just copy from original file

_SkeletonData needs to be generated by unity

[tribal shadow]

dam

[fleet current]

NOt if the modded PNG is different from original file?

[south dagger]

it worked!

pretty sure its the _Atlas

or well

[tribal shadow]

[south dagger]

99%

otherwise it shouldnt have worked

[scarlet pollen]

i tried it with unity but somehow my file looks so small xD

[south dagger]

its

[scarlet pollen]

oh cool

[tribal shadow]

modding revived when?

i might start being like Jeff

[south dagger]

hm

but im a bit confused

wtf

i have too many files

nvm

it didnt work i just forgot to apply on nmm

lemme try again xDDD

[fleet current]

[tribal shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-jjk-choso-choso-panic-insane-choso-anime-insane-gif-5693401929827560865

[south dagger]

u replaced the .atlas not the _atlas

[scarlet pollen]

ooh.

[south dagger]

well

good to know it actually reads the .skel succesfully even tho _SkeletonData is wrong

but ye idk wtf is up

must be _SkeletonData tbh

[sterile egret]

u mean _SkeletonData is also needed?

[south dagger]

i think so

[sterile egret]

[south dagger]

most likely need unity to generate this file

[fleet current]

MonoBehavior

[south dagger]

but

idk why n0ah naga mod cover/aim works still

cuz skeletondata is not correct for them

[fleet current]

did you try other cover / aim?

[south dagger]

no

[fleet current]

well hypothesis right now is that cover/aim doesn't need to pass metadata check

only standing

so you should try to verify that

or disprove it

[tribal shadow]

Jeff please...
stop driving me insane

[south dagger]

ah

it should be

_Atlas from c181_01 i guess

not from _00

smh

u repack this shit with uabea?

me going insane

[fleet current]

extract with assetstudio and repack with uabea

[fleet current]

just block me

[south dagger]

k

let me take a working file

and put some rando _SkeletonData into it

[tribal shadow]

no

I have no enemies

[scarlet pollen]

yea i repacked it wioth uabea

[south dagger]

K lemme fuck up skeletondata in a working file

See if it still work or not

[south dagger]

lz4 compression?

seems the file my uabea is not the same as the one u make

a few kb difference wtf

the ones i make dont work at all

even just opening a working one and resaving it = no work

[small yoke]

I use the modified uabea by bingle, I guess it's different from the normal uabea right?

Idk what is different tho

[south dagger]

idk

seems like the numbers in _SkeletonData is not important

it just needs to have same animation names

humm

mby i just finish it up and release it as it is

let other ppl figure out whats wrong with some modes

[small yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-spirit-anirudh-ravichander-so-baby-song-ani-anirudh-gif-20709644

I mean Na0h and the other modders with Spine can find the way to fix stuff faster

for their own mods

[south dagger]

i modified totallength and basically put every value as 1 and it still works, as long as the names are right

so idk i dont see how it can be _SkeletonData error

[tribal shadow]

[small yoke]

so before that error was for the face swaps when We were trying with Ein, but now it affects the whole standing

[south dagger]

k whatever

ill release this tmrw

someone will surely figure out why some shit works and some doesnt'

[fleet current]

fuck it ship it

let the users QA

[abstract helm]

if it gets released with a lot of bugs, there will be so many people asking why something doesnt work lmao

[tribal shadow]

who cares

modders will make it work

[abstract helm]

well yea, I was just saying how channels will get a lot of people asking

[tribal shadow]

As long as i can see my beer rei again, I am happy

[south dagger]

ill just write if character turns pink/invisible, turn off the mod and wait for someone to fix it because its incompatible/we dont know what the problem is yet

[small yoke]

remember to add some warning about mods not working that activates automatically after a game update

[south dagger]

no such problem anymore

no need to update nmm server

[small yoke]

noice

[lament ruin]

we keep referring them to here but they never show up

they post in ten channels about mdos not working but never in mod channels

[grand gyro]

Cuz they're not intelligent enough to find a discussion "thread"

[lament ruin]

i even link to the thread it self

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

literally me

[grand gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-wall-harry-potter-hit-wall-harry-potter-train-station-gif-22382683

[fleet current]

at that point just ban them

clearly bots

botting against tos

[pine estuary]

unity generated it but it doesn't mean the app did all the work for you

the skeletonData in the game file is bigger because it has configuration, you have not, that's why. To make the same file you need to match the same configuration

[grand gyro]

I guess something was broken in the bundle

I took a fresh original bundle, re-exported everything through spine pro and voila it works

[fleet current]

What's "everything"

[grand gyro]

skel, atlas and png

[fleet current]

only those three? Cuz I gave Danieru the same exact thing

[grand gyro]

yea

[fleet current]

That's the same file as yours right

[grand gyro]

how do I change the spine language

[fleet current]

He said it didn't work

[grand gyro]

I made one by myself

[fleet current]

I basically decrypted a fresh copy of c3146..., exported png, skel, and atlas from Na0h's mod posted in #modded-assets, and put them into the fresh c3146...

Can you check to see if my repack works for you

[grand gyro]

no that method didn't work for me

that's why I had to use spine

very weird

[fleet current]

what's the difference

[grand gyro]

no idea lol

[fleet current]

if you're just replacing skel, atlas, and png

[grand gyro]

maybe some export settings?

[fleet current]

I also just replaced skel atlas and png

[grand gyro]

how did you replace them?

through uabea's import txt plugin?

[fleet current]

yes

to overwrite skel and atlas

and uabea's edit png to load new png

[grand gyro]

how about texture settings?

[fleet current]

set to RGBA32

[grand gyro]

I used this

[fleet current]

I used that too

Click load -> choose png
Texture format: RGBA32

[grand gyro]

no I used bc7

[fleet current]

But Na0h's png is rgba32 lol

That shouldn't matter tho

[grand gyro]

it doesn't really matter

it's just how the uabea reformats it

[fleet current]

Can you see if my repacked bundle works for you

re-encrypt it and rename it back to c3146...

#1041207949508497548 message

[grand gyro]

one sec sei wanted me to test his mods first

[fleet current]

okay

[wanton gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968098119717904433/1219136884761169971/icon_20.gif

[grand gyro]

this works

hmm

[fleet current]

Why @south dagger say it don't work

I bet he didn't try it

Even though I went through the time to repack and send it to him

I then repacked and sent it to him

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-annoyed-gif-27198836

[grand gyro]

damn

he's a bad guy

[fleet current]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-trouble-spanky-gif-9970011438135193066

[half bone]

truly

a villain

[wanton gate]

He tricked you

Since you urge him everyday

[grand gyro]

It's been 9 days since nmm's death.... ppl are going mad...

[polar wing]

my mental state is being held together by red hood skin

im slowing going insane

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-homecoming-spider-web-ship-cut-in-half-gif-7337845

[frozen night]

haha going mad, i was never sane 🤣

[ancient schooner]

wouldn't it be really funny if all we had to do was repack

[simple violet]

Jeff leaking dms.

[south dagger]

Didnt know you modified anything, i tried the same mod before

[fleet current]

Bro I repacked it and labeled it as repacked

After asking you to try repacking

[south dagger]

Maybe i have brain damage

[frozen night]

OBJECTION! spiderman is supposed to be a hero, why is he trying to keep the top from opening? thats not very heroic 🤣

[cursive swift]

me

[half bone]

reply to a message that's exactly one month old...dayum

[fleet current]

.

[grand gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/night-sleep-gif-27085775

[fleet current]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleep-orange-cat-cat-falling-asleep-sleepy-cat-cat-sleepy-gif-16787743594167330608

[fleet current]

Interesting... 55MB update on PC just now, and all 1KB .nds files were updated in addressables

[grand gyro]

only dp updated

[fleet current]

Hmm e653de5.db didn't change for me

Only the nds files were updated

[grand gyro]

oh

then maybe I was looking at the very first db

nds files always get redownloaded everytime you launch the game

it wouldn't make sense for it to get updated when the main file didn't change since it's used for signature checks

[fleet current]

Ic didn't know that

wonder what the 55mb was then

[grand gyro]

no idea

I had 15mb update

[ancient schooner]

mine was 4.2

[half bone]

dayum, so many giveaways by paradox

[tribal shadow]

he giving out games from sale on gog

[tribal shadow]

Me waiting,
Waiting for Danieru,
Danieru to post NMM,
NMM new version,
version that revives modding,
modding that was dead,
dead yet revived,
revived to look at jiggles,
jiggles that are bouncy...
... bouncy jiggles

Me waiting for bouncy jiggles

[cobalt lava]

Hi, I wanted to ask if there is a solution to update the mod manager

He stays there and does nothing else.

[ancient schooner]

😐

[ancient schooner]

modding is dead right now

[half bone]

maybe we should spam this chat every hour saying modding is dead

[cobalt lava]

i think

[cobalt lava]

So you can't do it the old way and just simplify the names?

[wanton gate]

Change channel name to modding is dead

Like the destiny child server

[wanton gate]

It's dead

Bruh

For now

[cobalt lava]

[wanton gate]

Until they figure out the way

[half bone]

new way was created coz old way was dead...and now the new way is dead as well

[cobalt lava]

fak

[hearty dome]

modding is dead bro
it will surely be revived
danieru means hope

a haiku about the current modding situation

[fleet current]

it's called haiku

https://tenor.com/view/skateparkge-gif-27311724

[hearty dome]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

typo

[fleet current]

no such thing as minor

send nudes
send nukes

[hearty dome]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-happens-happens-it-is-what-it-is-its-fine-its-okay-no-big-deal-gif-13807328

[tribal shadow]

send dudes

[fleet current]

[nova roost]

good idea for now

[south dagger]

sry i had some shit these 2 days x_x will work on it tmrw

all issues with modding are solved so its definitely coming back but ban risk will be slightly higher due to the methods used

not 100% sure why we get pink texture sometimes but repacking solves it every time

not sure why because the files seem pretty much identical to me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

will have to take a deep look at repacked one to see whats different cuz they look identical in assetstudio

anyway

i will just fix NMM so it can be released

repacking makes mods work so gonna release NMM before taking a more in depth look at why they need to be repacked

im just gonna add some obfuscation and encryption to parts of the code so SU can enjoy trying to analyze what NMM is doing

give them some of their own medicine

sadly its javascript so not super hard to figure out whats going on tho

[fleet current]

Tomorrow™

[grand gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/really-really-soon-real-soon-very-quickly-very-soon-spl-gif-15307402

[fleet current]

Soon™

[south dagger]

Ur free to do it urself if u want tho

[fleet current]

I can't, you're the hero

[mellow marsh]

so we know how there is the dont post paid NSFW content reminder, yeah we should have that for modding . Except like every 10min

[lament ruin]

or just make a pin

[hearty dome]

yeah because pinned messages are read very regularly

[ancient schooner]

pins are barely read

a person is going to ask a question in the channel before even bothering with checkings pins or reading another channel for a FAQ

[lament ruin]

They not gonna read giselle either

So either tell em

Or let them walk around in the dark until fixed

[mellow marsh]

Just ignore them

[ancient schooner]

I've tried before

then they either went to my DMs or kept pinging

[mellow marsh]

that means you responded. They found you

[ancient schooner]

no they look up in the chat and see that I've said something before

[mellow marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/unfriend-block-discord-no-friend-not-friends-gif-22379633

easy

[vast sandal]

@lament ruin yo bro can ya add me in your server? also my "just_alex" account got hacked and banned. can you also give me the support role also? thanks

[rain oriole]

where are the lobby/backgrounds stored, alternatively does someone already have an archive of them

[abstract helm]

if they are free, some can be found in #modded-assets

[tribal shadow]

check pins in #the-eden

[rain oriole]

thank you

[south dagger]

made a lil bit of progress today just have some teeeny bits left + add some encryptions to be annoying back to SU, most of my day tomorrow is free tho so prolly gonna be finished then

fking pink textures baited me into trying to figure out whats wrong with them, should have just gone with repack instead of trying to figure out

[slate quiver]

Got red herring'd by the pink textures huh

[fleet current]

Translation: should’ve listened to me

[south dagger]

Ye spent like 2 days on that shit

[ancient schooner]

the irony

[tribal shadow]

You should spank him for it or sth

[fleet current]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-spank-beat-beating-gif-12866723695374477811

[tribal shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[abstract helm]

so was the issue repacking? also will ban rates go up, I think you said it was a different method now right?

[south dagger]

No idea if there will be any bans or not

Current state of game/anticheat doesnt get triggered by it

But its more invasive compared to the old method so dunno maybe theyll get madge

[abstract helm]

ohh ok I see

didnt know that anticheat didnt flag anything before

[pine estuary]

I think we will need to make a pin to tell people that they should not spread the new method too much. You know, some nerd actually make a youtube video about it to grab some fame

[south dagger]

SU is here anyway lol

hi SU

[fleet current]

As long as anyone is free to install and use mods, SU will install and use mods to see how it works

It’s like Microsoft developing Office and putting it up for download on their website but hoping Google won’t know about it

The only way to mitigate this is to keep NMM and mods private to a closed group of trusted people

Where everyone is vetted

And no one outside that group can access it

[south dagger]

only give nmm to jeff and no one else

[fleet current]

[small yoke]

I added the event lobby folders to the list on nikkeparentfolders.unaux.com

[fleet current]

How will @severe mountain update nikke file finder from now on? Work with @grand gyro on a json decode after each update?

the json's Bingle uploaded basically contain the info

[dry light]

Honestly nothing will make my day than to fk them up... Lol
I would rather make nmm complicated like login by your discord account to have Traces if you leaking mods and to even add mods it would be similar to ios

[grand gyro]

well if something needs to be edited the process won't be much different from repacking

[rugged snow]

two detectives here are going to figure it out

[short crown]

one step closer

[pine estuary]

Shaders? Hmm, neverthough one day we will have to touch that thing when working with texture mods

[wanton gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939565678317416518/1289731651466690612/1II464_5NQ1FR8A1UC.gif

Gj everyone

[tribal shadow]

Method? What method?
There's no method whatsoever

[ancient schooner]

does uploading the addressable folder to the site usually take over 5 mins?

[wanton gate]

Did you delete it first

[ancient schooner]

yes

[wanton gate]

Isn't the json change to encrypted db files lol

I don't think a1teri has updated it

[ancient schooner]

ah.. right

I'm just looking for where bay's burst folder is

okay fixed it

[fleet current]

@hearty dome previewwwww

[hearty dome]

still need some finishing touches, will be done after NMM will be available again

[ancient schooner]

smallest nipples in the west

[hearty dome]

yeah I thought about making them bigger... but I just like small nippies

[tribal shadow]

looks good

[hearty dome]

yeah but stuff like the cameltoe still not looking right bothers me so I will get to work once modding is available again...

[ancient schooner]

it's

weird angle

small

[lament ruin]

Based

Keine 500er kesselnieten

[tribal shadow]

it looks as if I put something more under that part rather than it was just her cameltoe

maybe making it darker at the top would fix a bit

[hearty dome]

yeah its too "elevated" and the color doesnt match

[tribal shadow]

yup

[simple violet]

men talking about drawn pussy being too elevated is peak

[abstract helm]

😭

[small yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/wcth-hearties-nathan-what-did-i-miss-mountie-gif-17182324

[jovial stratus]

that s my nipple

[ancient schooner]

🤨

[pine estuary]

The light source is what make it looks off, you can ask @jovial stratus how to fix it. It is easy

[jovial stratus]

nah! nothing much ! i just looked at my gf nipples ! !!

[mellow marsh]

look at them hotdog buns

[mellow marsh]

proof

[tribal shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-rider-gif-12094570406792494631

[mellow marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-21666966

[jovial stratus]

xD xD xD no need !

just see my art ! u ll know !

[mellow marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ayyoooo-ayoo-ayyoo-gif-24286843

https://tenor.com/view/g5-gear-5-gear-5-luffy-luffy-one-piece-gif-17561618586234107710

[tribal shadow]

[clear night]

Hey, is NMM fixed ? got "Fixes downloaded & applied, you can now start the game.
a", but no in-game changes seen 🥲
is there a special thing to do ?

[fleet current]

most of my day tomorrow is free tho so prolly gonna be finished then

[fleet current]

[brave cove]

nope

[tribal shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[polar wing]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-gif-18439752

[silent coral]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-reaction-meme-reaction-gif-26092993

[jovial stratus]

😢🥹😭

[sudden ore]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-26861291

[tribal shadow]

https://open.spotify.com/track/777zXDJpBufzttU4AJ2dGO?si=qeW6sOVfQXaYnhISq8_8ew

[dry light]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[sudden ore]

https://tenor.com/view/vault-boy-fallout-thu-thumbs-up-pouce-en-l'air-gif-12872992734180696380

[ancient schooner]

love doing two multis

seeing gold thinking oh nice

just to get soline and crow

[ancient schooner]

okay this game really wanted to rub it in me

SSRs on the friend and standard banner

is it possible to convince shift up to change rates?

[halcyon flame]

Withdrawal going to be hitting hard soon

[nova roost]

Patience is all you need for now

[small yoke]

Diesel, Yulha and Leona for me before Quency too

[hearty dome]

I got || nothing ||

[polar wing]

L

i love having good gacha luck

(nikke rates are just insane)

[jovial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[ancient schooner]

stg every time I do a multi I see gold

even now on standard ticket

the game is trolling too much

even the fucking gold molds

what the hell is going on

[hearty dome]

Yeah my "luck" is very weird atm too... I sacrificed way too much on rouge and quency already with the 2nd anni right around the corner... On the wishlist they go, even phantom though she might be useful for elysion tower

Gotta save for cinderella, she will surely be meta breaking again

[vast sandal]

fix?

[fleet current]

Reformat your hard drive

[vast sandal]

dude i aint doing that

[fleet current]

[vast sandal]

bro i have a ton stuff there

important stuff to

ok what if i just move it all to another drive

@fleet current

bro i need help

[fleet current]

[vast sandal]

the nmm portable

link

its not working

@fleet current

[fleet current]

If you ping me one more time I'm blocking you

[vast sandal]

wait bro chillax

its just that

help me atleast?

[fleet current]

bruh I don't know how to help someone who is in this thread and hasn't realized that for the past month+ modding has been dead

[vast sandal]

tell me if the link works for you

[fleet current]

asking about how to use nmm

[vast sandal]

i know how to use

its just the ink

link*

probably dead?

[fleet current]

tell me why are you trying to download something that doesn't work

[south dagger]

ex dee

[fleet current]

Help him Dan. He is trying to download and use NMM.

[south dagger]

try pressing f5

[hearty dome]

I prefer ctrl + r

[jagged dove]

meow

[wanton gate]

What script

It says unexpected token

Just check the code

[ancient schooner]

nmm isn't updated yet so there's no point

[minor talon]

delete sys 32 its breaking nmm

[polar wing]

🗿

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[jovial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cj-gta-gta-san-adreas-gif-19181393

[distant geode]

just pin this

[polar wing]

you think people check pins?

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-26176788

[brittle ruin]

anyone got the locales

[mellow marsh]

-# he dont know

[pine estuary]

He "don't" know

Thats kinda

Off

[tribal shadow]

[fleet current]

The most effective way is to rename #modded-assets into #nmm-is-dead-stop-asking

and then pin a rule that says

"If you ask why nmm is broken you'll get banned"

and then make me moderator so I can enforce

and we'll finally achieve peace

[half bone]

so jeff wants pawah

[fleet current]

I just want peace for everyone

[grand gyro]

Ahegao double peace for everyone

[fleet current]

[jovial stratus]

[south dagger]

nmm fully working again but will tweak a few things tmrw before uploading

[jovial stratus]

ohhh

[ancient schooner]

bet someone gonna only read the first part of that

[jovial stratus]

[ancient schooner]

and then say "MODDING FIXED"

[jovial stratus]

xD xD

[minor talon]

NmM bRoKeY HoW FiX

[ancient schooner]

go to the discord shop and buy the number 1 popular avatar frame right now

[tribal shadow]

buy... The Foot

[leaden lodge]

Would be so glad that it works again.

[pine estuary]

i personal think

that before we relaunch the NMM

we need to make a code

like this time, a real rule to use this program

cannot just ignore the limitation then let the whole world carry the consequences together

first of all, skin swapping hurts their sale, this is not the first time we got striked and i am sure that they don't like 20-60$ skin swap mods

the second is collab character mods, as we will have to deal with not just NIKKE but the company of the series they are doing the collab

[wanton gate]

Just increase the level needed to unlock this channel

[pine estuary]

you really think that to unlock this channel will reduce chances

while stupid ass are reporting us on the main discord/reddit channel

[wanton gate]

Yes it helps

Modding is too popular for us to hide it easily from them

[pine estuary]

no

it is not the case

the thing here is

after relauch, this time NMM is more risky to use

so i think we need a code to , make proximabeta happy

so they can go easy with us

[mellow marsh]

They will not go easy and just keep breaking modding like this

[pine estuary]

because skin swap modding hurts their sale

i can boost their pull rate my nude modding their lamest character but cannot increase skin sale by nude modding it

because people always ask for swap version right after i make some

and tencent doesnt like it

[wicked pivot]

I'm sure they dislike the nude mods as much as skin swaps

[pine estuary]

i'm sure you dislike me as much as they are

[wicked pivot]

that too, but it's not the question here

[pine estuary]

that's dad joke, you should learn to laugh

[wicked pivot]

the moment people announces nmm is working, even if there are strict rules and it's private, it'll take tencent a handful of months to break it again

[pine estuary]

oh

you just tell me a way to prevent it

i can just not announce it and everything will be fine

yeha

i think the problem is we are spreading it too much so the dev noticed us

[wicked pivot]

it's not my job to prevent it

for all I know, I've never participated in modding stuff, and I never modded myself since release

I don't care really about your situations with nmm

I'm only here for nau

[half bone]

but if u don't share with people, modding gonna die anyway, I'm sure u wouldn't want to make mods for just 2~3 people

[hushed surge]

why should it be the spreadin problem our fault? do you really think that Hoyoverse and Kuro Games aren't aware of the mods of their games in caimogu, gamebanana,loverslab and Patreon? They know, and don't give a fuck.
This is a company problem, not spreading

[grand gyro]

he's secretly a member of shiftup's marketing team in his universe

too bad that su just hates all forms of file modification

[wicked pivot]

hopefully SU is fine with file modifications

[pine estuary]

they did not

[wicked pivot]

I will not live in a world where stellar blade is hard to mod

[half bone]

[pine estuary]

because the pull rates for their game is high

the key selling point for nikke is new character everyweek, it is different

[grand gyro]

ripperino

[pine estuary]

nah im sorry i forgot they most important thing

tencent is behind it

[half bone]

waaaaah...? wdym? their rate sucks, it almost always reaches close to pity or soft pity

[pine estuary]

i dont know what is the word to explain this

but like, they gain huge money every banner

whale pull a lot

[half bone]

oh banner revenue?

[pine estuary]

i mean it

unlike nikke

people will skip if they dont like

have you ever play a tencent game that have nude mod

[half bone]

I dun like playing any tencent game...nikke is exception

[pine estuary]

that's explain

i mean back in the day we modded Destiny Child

shiftup didnt give a fuck

[grand gyro]

dude they didn't even care about cheaters lol

[wanton gate]

What are you cooking with nau

[grand gyro]

grab a fucking game guardian and you do inf damage on that game

and nobody cares

[red canopy]

They want you to buy the overpriced skins

Rather than get it free with mods

[pine estuary]

i personally think all nikke skin is not overprice

[simple violet]

#modded-assets message

in her tap animation, her right boob looks like it’s bitten off..

[pine estuary]

if you have play like a lot of korean game

he didnt remake the breast

[mellow marsh]

🤝 same

[half bone]

it is, for most 3rd world countries...u can buy multiple games with that budget instead of a single skin in a game

[pine estuary]

Normal day in korea

Pay 8$ for a skin

of a chibi

[half bone]

and even if u are rich, my dumbass govt dun even allow paypal, so no international trading without credit cards which r damn expensive

[pine estuary]

with chubby cheek

[pine estuary]

they call it tax

[wanton gate]

Hoyo restricts the gems income so that you have to actually skip 1-2 banner ahead the character you like. Hsr doesn't even have any skins

[wanton gate]

People compare it with azur lane and brown dust lmao

Also snowbreak

Hence, they call it "overpriced"

[pine estuary]

and you are telling me that 20$ is overpriced

[wanton gate]

Not my opinion,

I don't play any of them

[pine estuary]

"hey brown dust 2 is so good, they give me like 100 pulls everyweek"

[wanton gate]

[pine estuary]

progress to get new character after 200 pulls

[grand gyro]

he runs https://nikke-db.pages.dev/

[pine estuary]

[grand gyro]

ngl $19.99 you can buy a decent indie game

[wanton gate]

Does he find the way to combine the layers of the favorite items scene?

[wicked pivot]

no

I already spent 7 hours trying to merge the layers

[ancient schooner]

literally 😭

[wicked pivot]

I have no clue how tf did they make it work in game

[ancient schooner]

and the shop with the ash and golden threads is only good for getting +1 on a costume

[wicked pivot]

my only way to perhaps continue searching would be a skel to json converter for 4.1 and merge them the HARD way

[grand gyro]

is that the uh unique item for non-meta nikkes?

[south dagger]

They just load several tracks and overlay them no?

Ie spawn two instances

[wicked pivot]

that's the theory, but it does not work

[wanton gate]

Rip

[mellow marsh]

yeah when you upgrade the commander item to max is when you can get their favorite item

[wicked pivot]

even if you load background on track 1 and foreground on track 2, only the track 2 item will show

[south dagger]

It's not a problem in spine ts

[wicked pivot]

I think they have bones shared by both animations so the track don't merge easily

[south dagger]

I mean u load 2 instances

Same as they show 5 nikkes while battling

[pine estuary]

what do you guy talking about

[south dagger]

Load the same nikke twice and overlay track 2

[pine estuary]

merging what

[wicked pivot]

I can already smell the issues coming from having two spines loaded , especially on zoom, drag , screenshot and record features

[wanton gate]

Well I guess just contact fzfalzar and ask him about skel 4.1

[south dagger]

Ye in spine player it's prolly an issue

[wicked pivot]

falzar ghosted me ever since 4.1 released

[wanton gate]

[mellow marsh]

favorite items main part and background

[pine estuary]

they are different spine files or smt

[south dagger]

Same spine different tracks

[mellow marsh]

seperate from what i understand, and cant merge them to display at the same time

[wicked pivot]

the favorites issue isn't a spine player tbh, I've tested on a couple other softwares and it was always the same hassle. I really think they are loading two spines at once in game or they have a tencent owned fork of the runtime

[pine estuary]

different animation?

[grand gyro]

do you have a bundle for it?

[pine estuary]

send me a file

[wicked pivot]

just grab them on my website

https://github.com/Nikke-db/Nikke-db.github.io/tree/main/l2d/favorite_c072

like

it'll look merged when paused on frame 0

but then when you play it it's broken

no matter the software

[south dagger]

Because the other tools don't have support for multiple spines

[mellow marsh]

who is c072?

[ancient schooner]

holy shit how many stages are there before the doll evolves?

[mellow marsh]

like 15 i think

[south dagger]

You have to add it urself

[wanton gate]

Plan b: infiltrate shiftup as employee and steal the tool

[pine estuary]

ahhhhhhh

you mean

the bg_idle?

[wicked pivot]

I really don't think nikke themselves are loading two different spine

they'd have seen how shitty that was and fixed it by now

[south dagger]

Lol

[ancient schooner]

diesel

[south dagger]

The game runs below 60fps even on decent pcs brother

[wanton gate]

[wicked pivot]

even viper asset is broken, which released like 3 months after the others so at least she'd be fixed

[pine estuary]

let me examine

[wicked pivot]

favorites so bussin broken I'm not adding the new ones to db

[wicked pivot]

credits need to be said

the artists are killing it and never made a single spine mistake

but then suddenly all the favorites are

I doubt it, they are making a weird trick with the asset and not loading two

[pine estuary]

i see know the problem

[half bone]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[wicked pivot]

I did my own tries of finding working layer combos using the official spineViewer jar

idk what tools y'all use

[mellow marsh]

Fixed it

[wicked pivot]

it'll show fixed on frame 0

press play

[wicked pivot]

and you'll have only one of them

[grand gyro]

i can see what dani meant by two instances lol

[half bone]

wtf are those lines...

[grand gyro]

skeletons

[mellow marsh]

[wicked pivot]

the goal is to load the bg in a layer 1 and diesel in a layer 2

so in theory they'd overlap

but it doesn't

so my own guess is that both animation shares one or more bones

making it not possible to show both

and when I mean layer it's not 2 seperate spine animations

it's one when you manually handles the layer & tracks of the animation

track seem to be the official term

[south dagger]

You just spawn two instances bruh

[wicked pivot]

as I told you that'd just cause like 5 issues with my website tools

[south dagger]

Yeah because spine player

You need to mod the player to spawn two instances of the spine

[fleet current]

Countdown for new NMM

10

9

[south dagger]

Not two instances of the player

[fleet current]

8

[wicked pivot]

oh

[fleet current]

7

[mellow marsh]

this man fr counting down

[wicked pivot]

that seem even harder to handle lmao

[fleet current]

6

[south dagger]

Its easy'ish in spine ts

[fleet current]

Countdown broke, Dan pulled the plug

[south dagger]

https://github.com/pixijs/spine/issues/46 here u have an example of how itd look

[wicked pivot]

I have the player in the transpiled js

[pine estuary]

but

[wicked pivot]

using two setAnimations isn't working, I've tried it already

[pine estuary]

the problem is there is no animation for bg_idle

[wicked pivot]

it works when you load any nikke and use the talking animation at the same time ( not sure why I never finished this talking feature )

but the favorites are fr just broken to their core

[pine estuary]

does the bg have any animation at all or it is just an image

with red light and green light

@wicked pivot isnt you just need to fix it in Spine

here you go

[south dagger]

He doesn't have spine pro to merge it and it's annoying to do for every animation

[pine estuary]

if he doesnt have spine pro

[wicked pivot]

that seem to work perfectly indeed sei, that's kind of you

[pine estuary]

then he cannot fix this

why? because all the model is not attached in the bg_idle

[wicked pivot]

but I don't own the software so I want to find a programatical fix for all the current and future favorites

[pine estuary]

to make the bg_idle 2nd instance

you have to have the body and the background the same attached

to the timeline

[pine estuary]

ass you can see here

the body was not attached

[wicked pivot]

that's why I said I wouldn't look further without a skel to json program, I probably could have handcrafted this fix after a limbussilion hours of tests

[south dagger]

In spinets u load the file then spawn two instances of the spine and set the first instance to bg

[grand gyro]

we're trying to render it "without" editing the file

[pine estuary]

you basically can't

it is animation

[grand gyro]

then how nikke client does it?

kek

[pine estuary]

a minutes

[wicked pivot]

skuqre and I ended up believing they are loading 2 spines but that's just too stupid to be true

[south dagger]

Why would that be stupid

[wicked pivot]

because if that was true they'd at least have split them in two different set of assets, one for bg one for foreground

and not merge everything in the same files

[south dagger]

No?

You load the spine once

Then spawn two instances

[pine estuary]

there are 2 cases for this

1st that the bg is in a "skin" slot

but in this case it is not possible

the 2nd case is using unity and load 2 instances

but i wonder why they did it

they can just do it like they did every single animation before

unity can load layered animation you know

[grand gyro]

maybe they wanted to have two animations play independently

[pine estuary]

that makes sense

[grand gyro]

like in diesel anim you only need to animate one sequence for the signal and repeat

[south dagger]

Isnt there variations of either the bg or the character

[grand gyro]

while you have another instance playing the character

[wicked pivot]

from my knowledge, to run two animations independently you have to load them on different tracks and it would work only if both animations don't use overlapping bones
similar to idle and talking animations, that's what they are doing ( idle on track 0 and talk on track 1 ) , this works I've done it with spine player and the jar viewer

but the track system doesn't work here

[pine estuary]

then in this case it is what they are doing

there is no overlapping mesh forbg_idle or idle

[wicked pivot]

[pine estuary]

oh i get it

[wicked pivot]

anyway, such a hassle for nothing, don't waste too much time on this y'all
I personally have not much interest of fixing it after it ruined 4 of my afternoons
unless you want to mods them too or display them on other websites

[pine estuary]

no you need to understand this

this is crucial

[wicked pivot]

nah i'm ight. i just want to play an indie game and work on my limbus website

[pine estuary]

this is Rei costume if i make the bg_idle work with the idle animation

you can see that the tap animation will have weird animation

it is happen because it has overlapped meshs

but why it doesnt happen in game, it is easy, they make 2 instance that load the same model at once

same with favorite cutscene

[wicked pivot]

her bg isn't even animated in my website because it's the same deal as favorites, it's in a animation

[wicked pivot]

the bg is in a skin slot but also in an animation to be moving

[grand gyro]

I think spawning two instances of spine on the player is the only way to do it

Track is used to add up translations/rotation/scale etc from each key in the animation but it's not useful in this case as one animation completely disables the bg while the other disables the character

if you put them on track 1 and 2 they just both disappear kek