Don’t kill this game with P2W!!!

[fleet thunder]

You have built an absolutely incredible game. However you can now stack Founder packs…. It’s crazy. This isnt a mobile game like asphalt. We want ZERO P2W otherwise this game will ultimately fail just like Diablo Immortal and all the others.

I’m saying this because we love the game and it’s amazing.

Stop killing your hard work.

Don’t kill this game with P2W!!!

[mortal rampart]

YES! Please Gameloft, listen to players !

Just, read the end
This is litteraly the FAQ 🤮

[fleet thunder]

yeah its crazy. Sad thing is we wont even get acknowledgement

[tranquil gorge]

Don't be surprised if they don't listen to your feedback about the monetization. The game's solid, the progression is awful.

[left hornet]

Founders pack (which you have to buy at least one to play early access) is only pay to progress element in the game. You can’t buy tokens, season tokens or multiplayer tokens. So let’s try not say it is p2w when it isn’t currently. At worst it is pay to progress faster but if you have played the game you have seen that if you are within 15 levels and 1-2 stars you can still easily bear people and with those 3 founder packs you aren’t gonna get more than that on people

[fleet thunder]

Yes I agree however their direction could be buy boxes etc. We dont want that to happen if it does they will ultimately lose MORE money and all their players bar a few whales. ITS THE WRONG model for games yet no one opens their eyes to this especially devs.

[tranquil gorge]

And when it drops out of Founders it's 100% going to be that all the currencies are buyable.

[left hornet]

They haven’t explicitly stated what progress items will be available after leaves early access. Just several items for racer customization, karts, and progress faster. That hardly states are currencies are buyable

[wide horizon]

the blue currency will 100% be a buyable one

[fleet thunder]

Lets no presume however yes it might be. We have to stop this or its killing a very good game and tbh im sick of games doing this.

Hence why SO many games have launched then closed down within a year or so

[tranquil gorge]

It's a GameLoft game. And it's Disney. it's 100% going to have the currencies buyable.

[left hornet]

I’m not gonna argue hypotheticals, continue to think what you wish. Game loft comsole games have been good with Disney dreamlight valley, not talking about mobile cause those are mostly trash true p2w games

[floral sand]

Dreamlight Valley is awesome for gameplay. I have close to 300 hours played. However, the "Premium Shop" is a big issue right now. The devs posted a response to feedback back in February that was essentially "We hear you", but nothing else has been done or addressed with it since.

[indigo timber]

Well in that case I look forward to not playing speedstorm in the future. Pleassssse devs change it.

[fleet thunder]

I feel like they could at least acknowledge this won’t be p2w and it’ll probably encourage more people to play

[rancid dawn]

🫣 really hoping they can rethink this

[tight furnace]

It’s a shame to see a very solid base game being ruined by the bean counting pieces of crap management that think this is the way to make money. For the love of games please let the devs working so hard on this make it right and stop shoving these obvious systems in the game to feed off player impatience or whales who can afford to throw money at these things. Yes presently there’s not really any of those actually there but it’s pretty clear that’s the intended f2p model once it’s out of early access based on how grindy it is and the fact there’s even a bloody mode specifically for this nonsense. Like who thought that was a good idea without proper matchmaking in ranked to make sure players actually have a chance of winning instead of being stuck in last because ultimate bundle buyers are able to out level them already. Regulated is clearly the mod of choice for people actually looking to have a good time in this game.

[wanton oriole]

It's a shame Regulated doesn't reward you with anything after a certain point. It would be different if it was an unlimited source of the regular Tokens that you get so little of from the Starter Course.

[fleet thunder]

Yeah that’s the problem I have no interest in regulated I like the competitive progression of ranked. This really needs to be addressed by the devs. Instead of just not responding.

@full goblet Please tell us some good news. You’ve made a fantastic game don’t ruin it 😦

[heavy rampart]

this one

[surreal ginkgo]

Kartracer Drift is an example to look at. That game was totally P2W in Beta. Some carts were just better/faster than others, and you could buy them. They changed this at launch: now all carts are the same with a degree of stat customization allowing for build diversity, but it’s fair. P2W will not fly on consoles.

[wide horizon]

Yeah kart rider drift is really fun to play and fair now, hope this game does the same

[heavy rampart]

It is absurd that to level up pilots you have to play rankeds that are anything but balanced.

I'm playing with 1 star Bella constantly against 2 star monsters (with 2 star skills). How do they want this game to work? Rankeds should be the same for everyone.

[tranquil pelican]

They want you to have to go into a pay 2 win mode to level your characters, get frustrated and just buy what you need. The entire system is specifically crafted to do that.

The core gameplay of this game is SUPER good. But everything else is a hot garbage fire of predatory mobile tactics and retention mechanics that will make playing this game feel like a job. I really want this game to succeed. For the love of god make some changes to these systems or your game will die before it launches

[civic ingot]

The premium shop is trash, but at least there’s not any gacha game progression, unlike here.

[civic ingot]

They’ll never give unlimited access to tokens since that is the main premium “paid” currency. But we should at least be able to rack up as many multiplayer coins as we want, especially since it’s 500 for a single random cosmetic, and thousands to be able to select it yourself.

[wanton oriole]

Has that been confirmed? I know right now it is assumed that the Gold Pass Credit will be replaced with a direct purchase option, but nothing about the Tokens and Season Tokens.

Honestly, they need to consolidate all the currency in the game...

[civic ingot]

I could have sworn GL said somewhere that the gold pass would be purchasable with tokens. They’ve also been locking the most desirable items in the shop behind them.

[wanton oriole]

You mean characters. Let's face it, that's what we're here for. I want to play as Figment so badly! Instead, I'm mainly using Mulan and Mike...

[civic ingot]

Yuuupp. 😅

[heavy rampart]

I would buy characters and cosmetics for real money, but I refuse to pay for leveling up.

And what's worse, I won't recommend this game to anyone until they change this

[fleet thunder]

wonder if we will ever get a DEV response

[wanton oriole]

If we do, it will be in the #📢-game-news channel or in some kind of form of a major update during EA. I have yet to see anyone with [GL] after their name post in this discord outside of setting up the "leave your feedback about this feature here" thread.

[fleet thunder]

I’m aware however some acknowledgement would be awesome

[mild cape]

I hope we will get some acknowledgement at some point

[fleet thunder]

73 👍 , ⬆️ 27, 12 ✅ keep pushing everyone

[wintry finch]

The game is already death and journalist’s review of the early access is already burying the game because of all the garbage pay 2 win, too much currencies, too much loot boxes, everything locked behind pay wall to progress
Feeling like a job to even understand the concept.

[wanton oriole]

The photoshop abs speaks true. I was watching a Let's Try from a vTuber who is usually very forgiving and understanding, especially with EA games. They hated SpeedStorm! Most noticable was their dislike of how long it took to unlock the other modes of play and the lack of characters available from the jump. Unlocking characters is fine, but being stuck to Mickey and Donald for the first several hours was not enjoyable for them.

I can only imagine how many players feel the same way.

Personally, I'm neutral on using Mickey until I get another character, but that's because Mickey in this game is like starting with Mario in Smash Bros.

[tight furnace]

That seems unlikely

[mild cape]

That's off-topic for this thread

[wintry finch]

So the only characters that I don’t have is behind paywall but the one that already got I can buy shards with season coin this system is so broken. Don’t let any of real money be in the daily shop and just let people level-up from page of each section for real money but don’t sell shards for money, you are blocking the progression behind paywall

[fleet thunder]

Its funny how the shop issue gets "Fixed" immediately also

[mortal rampart]

I really hope that Gameloft will take seriously this as an advice by the community. We just need an open letter for the community to let us know that they are working on it.

[north stirrup]

This game is dead if they don't make regulated competitive. I'm not interested to max out characters to have fun in ranked, playing boring events daily. There zero satisfaction to win with 20 levels ahead of someone.

[unborn ibex]

Yes they need regulated ranked, but then is this concept about lvling his chars pointles and this is the way to generate money

[north stirrup]

If they add nice karts and skins they can make their money this way but they only have recolor.

[fleet thunder]

87 upvotes says it all really

[wanton oriole]

Over 130 if you count all the reactions. Hopefully that's enough to get the attention of the developers.

[alpine ingot]

I feel like you're forgetting this game is a gacha game. I hope I'm wrong but they most likely will not change this, otherwise it wouldn't be a gacha anymore

[fleet thunder]

its a PC/Console first game.... it shouldn't be a gacha lol

[alpine ingot]

I'm not arguing with you on if it should or shouldn't be a gacha, just stating the fact that it is one and that's the core of this game and they most likely won't change that. Once again, I hope I'm wrong, I really do

[mild cape]

I'll bet if they expanded on the multiplayer modes and removed the P2W elements in ranked (or made progression easier), then gacha might be less of a concern

[wanton oriole]

^This. It would be one thing if it was a Gacha game that rewarded pulls for ranking up or completing missions, but in its current state? There's nothing to DO after a certain point. You either grind as much as you can get the items you need to upgrade or you fight it out in Rank Rances to get the items you need to upgrade. As a result, the Gacha part of it (at least for me) is just another reason to put the game down after I've done the Daily Challenges. AND I PAID TO PLAY THIS GAME MUCH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE! (I can only imagine what kind of feedback they get when it goes Free-To-Start.)

[supple shale]

The problem is that, as unfortunately happens in every game, people already lose hope from the beginning and already accept the inevitable nature of the game... but I say what's the point of doing a hearly access if some people think this way ? we don't know if the game will ever go P2W when it comes out of Hearly Access, however they do agree that the game could potentially be unfair for those who don't spend real money to take advantage... however I just want to point out that the the only things that at the moment you can potentially "buy" are the levels of the pass, some cosmetics in evidence, the battle pass of course, and some shards in case the character has not been unlocked. The universal, Multiplayer and Seasonal boxes are all made for free and in my opinion you won't have to buy them with real money (I hope), for me I don't find selling cosmetics in the shop P2W a cosmetic doesn't benefit you, however if instead they sell resources or materials to level characters faster than that then it would become P2W but right now I don't see any of that in play.

[nova quest]

It's not just P2W, it's that the game just wants you to get parts to upgrade and unlock characters, instead of thinking about a wide variety of cosmetic items, which is what works best today. More bodies. More paintings. More turbo effects and colors. Hats for characters. Elements to decorate the car. Sticker customization. Character recolors Why not? Gestures to use Ingame using the D-Pad. And surely we can still think of more cosmetic elements to have the most exclusive character and car in the car, without having to think so much about the stats.

texture styling for the car; Polished, metallic, chrome, dirty, scratched, matte steel. All combined with the rest of the customization.

even for the ranked, get points for each victory, and unlock character skins all bronze, silver and finally, gold. And if we go crazy, diamond.

1st place - 10 points / 2st place - 5 points and 3st place 3 ranked points. 1000 ranked points = full Bronze skin. 5,000 ranked points = Full silver skin. 15,000 ranked points = full gold skin (for example)

[supple shale]

Infact i like more monetization on cosmetics, cosmetics is not gamebraking and not avvantage the player.

Look at fortnite she basicly sell cosmetics in the store and notting else.

[nova quest]

that is the point. I am an Overwatch player and I pay every month for the battle pass, which are all cosmetic elements and I am delighted. The moment I went to get advantages in the Gameplay, I would stop paying. And consequently, I would not dedicate so many hours to it.

[supple shale]

tecnicly you not get characters as well from i remember?

[nova quest]

you can get it for free. Either in the battle pass (free) or if you arrive later in the game, through missions, also free.

If you pay for the pass you unlock it instantly, that's the only difference.

and even so, in the competitive one it cannot be used until after a while, I think that 2 weeks.

About Disney Speedstorm, I could understand the payment for unlocking characters, or that they are only in the paid battle passes. But only that, new characters. The rest, I would like everything to be cosmetic.

no pilot stars or stats boosts with levels

[supple shale]

i not like some times the "Fortnite" Standard but to be onest is more fair a game were the only thing you can pay real money is the cosmetics and notting else.

[potent dagger]

really bad decision