Il Deux Tretiy Roms: Age of the Second Renaissance [wip]

[glossy heron]

washed

[odd tulip]

this actually looks good

👍

[glossy heron]

nothinghappensstan in 1936

[eager schooner]

Name this pls

[glossy heron]

what

[eager schooner]

Name the game i find in dummy nation

Pls

[glossy heron]

im still working on it currently 😭

[eager schooner]

Name pls

[odd tulip]

he’s not finished with it yet

when he’s done he’ll show you the name👍

[eager schooner]

Oke

[wooden mulch]

1936???

[glossy heron]

yeah

since thats when most of my stuff i want will fit in

[glossy heron]

Im still making flags and researching stuff for this 😭🙏

heres an image of the Russian Republic (Probably will be deleted) and the United States of North America with it’s integration territories of Quebec and the Rio Grande.

After the British Empire collapsed and the USNA going with unconditional surrender after the Great War, the USNA moved to pick off the British Empire’s dead body by annexing the British Empire’s Territory of: Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nunavut, and the British’s Caribbean Colonies. With causing the collapse of the unstable Second Empire of Mexico with support from democratic Mexican revolutionaries , the USNA took this opportunity to take more land from Mexico, taking Baja California and quickly establishing a integration zone in the Mexican states of: Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León, and Tamaulipas where they created the Territory of the Rio Grande.

After Kerensky was couped by Alexander Kolchak, Kolchak’s regime failed after the Black Hundreds, an Anti-Semitic, Anti-Polish, and Anti-Ukrainian authoritarian group couped Kolchak’s government, Kerensky was forced to flee to Alaska and the Far East to establish the second Russian Republic. But due to the terrible quality of living in Alaska and the Far East, majority of the populous fled to the USNA, who will soon have their ideals on internationalism and the expansion of the American living space, and Alaska is in the vicinity.

[hard birch]

usa total victory

[glossy heron]

Extra Lore or smth

After the Internationalist Progressive Party won the 1912 election who had Theodore Roosevelt as the presidential candidate against the Democratic Party candidate Champ Clark, this being the first time a third party candidate had ever been elected. With the Progressive Party's success and winning the most votes resulted in the Republican Party losing influence and votes, resulting in the party being absorbed into the Progressive Party, starting the end of the third-party system. The first thing Theodore Roosevelt did was the creation of the internationalist League of Enforcing Peace, now named the Monroe Concordat which is a defensive alliance in the Americas with the founding members: The United States of North America, The Philippines, the Central American Republic, the Republic of Cuba, and the West Indies Federation. The later members that joined were the Antillean Federation, the Republic of Haiti, and the Republic of Yucatan.

[glass wedge]

how can i play this

or you have the map style

[glossy heron]

im still working on it currently

[glossy heron]

China

I have no idea how to explain this at all.

[glossy heron]

Assyria and Kurdistan

Assyria
After a failed attempt to gain independence after the French and Russian Coalition against the Ottoman Empire led to the Ottomans oppressing them extremely. The French and Russians were already too busy pacifying their new lands in the Caucasus and the Middle East so they received minimal support from both powers. After the War of the 9th Coalition, also dubbed the ‘Great War’, the Assyrians successfully revolted and gained independence from the now weakened Ottomans who were on the side of the defeated British coalition. The Assyrians gained help during the Russian Revolution with the support from trained and well-equipped Soviet soldiers who helped establish the newly founded state called the Union of Free Assyria, a communist “republic” with the teachings of the Urmia Manifesto of the United Free Syria with the creator of the manifesto, Freydun Atturaya in charge.

Kurdistan
Just like Assyria, they failed to gain independence from the Ottoman Empire. The Kurdish rebellion supported the Russian front during the coalition but the Russians unfortunately abandoned their independence movement due to seeing no benefits in so. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Kurds were unsuccessful in establishing a state on Turkish lands due to Assyrians attacking them, leading to the Kurds having to establish the Kingdom of Kurdistan in Northern Iraq where they were successful. The nation is currently being led by the Malik, Mahmud Barzanji.

[glossy heron]

gotta redo this from an outdated map backup 😭

accidentally saved another map with the map’s name….

[cinder pilot]

@gusty kite would probably be screaming at you for Assyria

[gusty kite]

I dont have anything against any minoritys in iraq

😭

There is ONLY 142k-200k assyrians in iraq

[glossy heron]

🥶

[glossy heron]

China reduxed after the mistake 😭

[round depot]

Is this an alternative history scenario?

[glossy heron]

yeah

[round depot]

Can you tell me what it's about?

[glossy heron]

Basically all i have is napoleon wins (still doing research to make this even be possible to work), skip later portugal wins the anglo-portuguese war after they deny the ultimatum from britain with the help of france and the revolting boers onb, skip again it’s ww1 with the french faction:

France, Spain, the kingdom of italy under the bonapartes, kingdom of meridione under the murats, swiss confederation, portugal, russia, denmark, westralian revolutionaries, the mexican empire, austria and their colonies

Vs the British faction with
The UK and her colonies, sweden, prussia, japan, (the usa possibly), i forgot

This all started after the dogger bank incident during the russo-japanese war escalated into a world war and led to a french coalition victory and the collapse of russia (this will be explained more)

[glossy heron]

(the anglo-portuguese war was only over britain trying to get portugal off their claims on zimbabwe and zambia, so portugal gains those)

sweden joined over denmark still owning skåneland

[round depot]

Well I can't wait to see how it turns out in the end

[hard birch]

🙏

[glossy heron]

europe redux after some research and changing history

[dreamy abyss]

So basicly its napoleon wins so you tryna add napoleon in 1936 as if he won and you tryna make it fit in ?

Thats why we still got the russian empire ?

[glossy heron]

perchance

[dreamy abyss]

Seems cool!

Literally destroyed my patience but still take your time we want it to be an absolute masterpiece

But didn't napoleon reach Moscow how is russia fine

[glossy heron]

it doesnt happen 😭

spain and russia are spared…

[dreamy abyss]

Ohh

That even makes it cooler i'll just reanex russia

[hard birch]

is this a map of coalitions?

[glossy heron]

No, i made the colors of puppets the same as their controllers 🥶

[dreamy abyss]

Smart move

[glossy heron]

india before and after research conducted

[glass wedge]

bradar when this coming

[gusty kite]

India is rightfuly iraqi clay fr fr

[round depot]

No it's not

[gusty kite]

India is iraq

The name ie pretty similar too

We eat food indians eat food too

Thats a 100% similarity

[round depot]

No

[round depot]

No

[round depot]

No

[round depot]

And no

[gusty kite]

Indians dont eat food?

[round depot]

No they don't

[gusty kite]

We both drink water tho!!

[round depot]

False

[glossy heron]

may be another month or two 😭🙏

[hard birch]

im geeked

[glass wedge]

aw bro cmon

[glass wedge]

can u give me early access or some shi?😭

i loved this

[glossy heron]

North America Redux

The House of Bernadotte’s Mexican Empire since he doesn’t take up the throne of Sweden. More will be explained at a later date.

Spanish West Indies has been added alongside the French Dominican Colony for accuracy and lore.

[lunar kite]

Was one of your previous usernames "Avant-Garde Springfieldgh"or "Avant-Garde Springtrap"cuz I forgor

[glossy heron]

yes

[lunar kite]

But which one was it?

[glossy heron]

the first

[lunar kite]

Ok

[glossy heron]

(Outdated Thumbnail) T.R.: Fin de l'Empire [wip]

[glossy heron]

eurasian redux after more research (total austrian collapse)

[lunar kite]

Nooo,the old one was much better

Collapsed spain,the central europe borders, I'll miss them

[glossy heron]

collapsed spain didnt make much sense since they’re a lot more stable than OTL 😭

[round depot]

#bringbackcollapsedspain

[glossy heron]

colonized africa thing… (along with rhe middle east)

[odd tulip]

What’s the teal color(Angola,Rhodesia and Mozambique)

[glossy heron]

the united kingdom of brazil and portugal
(portuguese monarchy in exile in brazil)

[odd tulip]

ok

[glossy heron]

China’s second redux (a lot has happened)

[glossy heron]

this may take another 2-3 months 😭

im gonna do a ton of extensive research on more people (writers, political figures, activists, etc)

I also have to change a ton of history during the late 1700s and the entirety of the 1800s so it’s understandable 😭

[round depot]

Dude I'm making an alternate history scenario and I'm not doing research and I'm just doing whatever I want

You should do that too

Do whatever you want and don't let realism stop you

[glossy heron]

the research is also for my own benefit since i want to have more knowledge on historical people 😭

my vision for this alt history scenario isnt realistic since i want to do research to make it more interesting without it being bland

[glossy heron]

Third European redux after research🥶 (needed to get to 100 messages by showing the earliest version…)

[round depot]

Now it's ruined

[glossy heron]

its an old version 😭

from july

this scenario was originally going to be a ww1 thing but i didnt like it

[lunar kite]

Why do you change your username along with profile pic

[glossy heron]

idk

[lunar kite]

What you're saying rn is that you somehow don't know the reason that you change your username,always female

[glossy heron]

im indecisive with my username

[lunar kite]

Lmao, that's the display name
Username= Shion_awa

[glossy heron]

indecisive with my display name*

[lunar kite]

Ok

[lunar kite]

What happened?

[glossy heron]

burnt out for a moment hold on 😿

[lunar kite]

Ok

[glossy heron]

changed ukraine and belarus heavily for the plot

(Added the Ukrainian People’s Republic of Soviets, Free Territory of Ukraine, and the Byelorussian Revolutionary Republic)

[lunar kite]

How do
-Avant Garde Springtrap
-Ashanti Garde Springtrap
-Ashanti Garden Sprintrap
Sound?

[glossy heron]

no.

[lunar kite]

Ok

[glossy heron]

added the Duchy of Malorussia/Malorossiya (Black Hundreds in Ukraine and the Don Oblast after being forced out and cut off by the soviets)

[lunar kite]

Bruh,I thought it was good

[glossy heron]

mb

[lunar kite]

I wasn't talking about map

[glossy heron]

i know

[lunar kite]

Scenario is good but u may reach 250 countries soon and that's max country limit

[lunar kite]

I mean,all of these r puns bit whatever

[glossy heron]

im at 179 countries

[lunar kite]

Oh, that's surprisingly not much

[glossy heron]

The Russian Far Eastern Federal Alliance (Zheltorussian/Zheltorossiyan People's Republic, Far Eastern Republic, and the Alyaskan National Republic)

[lunar kite]

1)is zheltorossiya the manchuria thing

[lunar kite]

2. Chill, you're working too much

[glossy heron]

yeah

[glossy heron]

i took a whole week break 😭

[lunar kite]

Wait? malorossiya wasn't done today?

[lunar kite]

Oh,then what's the green siberia

[glossy heron]

it was done yesterday

[glossy heron]

far eastern republic

[lunar kite]

Ok,cool

[lunar kite]

Ohhh,alaska owns the far east, thought they r different

[lunar kite]

The territory is siberia,they only one 1/3 of actual far east,rest is owned by Alyaska

[glossy heron]

yeah

[lunar kite]

U kinda fumbled up,my Malaysian neutral

[lunar kite]

Oh,thought it and siberia was done today

Also,1 of my scenarios got 890 downloads if I'm correct

[glossy heron]

it was done on purpose 😭

alaska barely got 100k population

[lunar kite]

What was the old name of this scenario?

[glossy heron]

it has been the same name since ive posted the scenario sire

[lunar kite]

The tr wasn't there,it was just "Fin De L' Empire"

[glossy heron]

it has been there 😭

Germany has been murdered heavily.

(States of the Confederation of the Rhine, North German Socialist Sovet Republic, German Empire (Led by Bavaria and Austria))

[lunar kite]

What was it before this post title change,aka what was the post title

[glossy heron]

third rome (paris): fin de l'empire

might make a new post for this icl 😭

tired of looking at the outdated photo

[lunar kite]

Oh,you shortened the third rome,and herein me,a dumbass was wondering what tr means

[lunar kite]

Icl?what is that?

[glossy heron]

i cant lie

[lunar kite]

Ok

[lunar kite]

Woah, that's a lotta countries

Btw,I didn't realize until scrolling like a month ago that u did the tno scenario

That scenario is 1 of my favourites

[glossy heron]

eh

its mid

i didnt do it on the highly detailed map

[lunar kite]

Nah,most accurate

[lunar kite]

Still looks good

Also,I don't take a break that often which means anything I make despite the detail only takes 1-7 days,infact the 1444 scenario with the very detailed lowlands was made in 1 hour

[lunar kite]

Btw,r u Malaysian?

[glossy heron]

idk

perchance

maybe not

what

[lunar kite]

Uh,how cuz morog sankranti or whatever the spelling is is located in malaysia if I'm correct

[lunar kite]

How?

Let's go to dms as this prolly violates a rule

[lunar kite]

That's illegal

[glossy heron]

gotta remake this on a whole another map (thank god for the saving provinces feature)

[glossy heron]

Happy New Year’s Eve.

[glossy heron]

Australia in 1936

Thomas John Maslen's prediction on Australia having a desired blessing was correct.

[floral compass]

Bruh,deinbruder account is scheduled for deletion and this is new account(for now)and bruh,this is some schizo stuff

[round depot]

Shut the fu

[round depot]

uk up

[glossy heron]

its not schizo onb 💔

[glossy heron]

nothinghappensstan remade

[lunar kite]

Onb fullform?

[lunar kite]

Oh,cool

[glossy heron]

on bro

[lunar kite]

Ok

[glossy heron]

Third actual Eurasian redux after research (probably the last version)

• Russian Civil War on going

• Denmark, Norway, and Sweden divided to fit the lore.

• Germany more divided than ever.

• Ukraine divided between the Ukrainian People's Republic, Ukrainian People's Republic of Soviets, Grand Duchy of Malorossiya (Black Hundreds), and Free Territory of Ukraine.

• Removed Assyria

• Moved Kurdistan and made it an Ottoman puppet

• Courish Republic Added

• Iceland made a US territory due to lore

• Greece destroyed almost entirely, in place added the Eastern Rumelian Empire and the Kingdom of Makedonia

• Iberian Republic replacing Spain, Lusitania, and Algarve

will show asia soon

after it's done (adding a ton of useless islands)

[hushed tundra]

Good

[lunar kite]

Lookin’ cool so far, keep it up

[glossy heron]

changed and forgot to add the names:

• Granadine Confederation (Colombia)
• Republic of Venezuela
• Federation of the French West Indies
• Republic of North Peru
• Realm of the Three Parts
• Republic of Chile
• Argentine Confederation
• Empire of Paraguay
• Empire of Brazil (The Brazilian Rump State in the Amazon)
• Riograndenes Republic
• Socialist Republic of São Paulo
• Integral State of Minas Gerais
• Pindorama Sultanate
• Confederacy of Ecuador

[eager schooner]

Name pls

[round depot]

It's not finished

[glossy heron]

__ ## North America 🥶 __

• United States of America
  -# Republic of Honduras (Fruit Company done got bro…)
  -# Central American Republic
  -# Republic of Haiti

• Plurinational Confederacy of Louisiane (French Speaking Natives)

• Mexican Empire
  -# Department of Las Californias
  -# Department of Nuevo México
  -# Central American Department

• Republic of Albionora

• Russian Republic in Alyaska

• Republic of El Salvador

• Insular Governorate of the Spanish West Indies

• Federation of the French West Indies

• Kingdom of Denmark (In exile in Iceland and Greenland)

[mighty sinew]

Fruit company done got bro 💀

[floral compass]

German word ahh! name.

[cobalt temple]

Great lore 💯

[cobalt temple]

WOAHHH THAT'S AWESOME?!!?!

[glossy heron]

most inaccurate aral sea you'll ever see in your life

[glossy heron]

Second Change

• Kwangtung Republic (Apart of the East Asian National Republic Pact)

• Philippine Republic (Also part of the EANRP)

• Republic of Siam (Part of the EANRP) and the Kingdom of Siam (French Puppet State)

also added the spartley and paracel islands and if you havent noticed, not in the original game.

spain is back to instability 🙏

[mighty sinew]

Lol

[mighty sinew]

Pk

[mighty sinew]

Yay

[glossy heron]

note: that im gonna overhaul the entire scenario again 😭, point of divergence being 1644 with an earlier technological revolution (industrial revolution) during the age of enlightenment…

[mighty sinew]

Bruh

[glossy heron]

realv

[mighty sinew]

Alhamdulillah,Shion really?
This ain't ever gonna b complete

[cobalt temple]

When u finished

[glossy heron]

he lives

i hate staring at that outdated thumbnail everyday…

[round depot]

I don't

[pearl orchid]

Skibid🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[cobalt temple]

I can't believe some fellas name in dn was SkibidiSigma69 😭😭☠️

[pearl orchid]

Fire username🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥

[viscid marsh]

@pearl orchid has reached level 3. GG!

[cobalt temple]

User so fire bro reached lv3 bc of it 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[mighty sinew]

Poland is male,
So,I can date poland?

[glossy heron]

bavarian-austrian led german empire is gonna be removed and is just gonna be austria

💔

(bavaria and saxony get murdered in the bavarian war of succession since prussia doesn't exist as a great power anymore)

[mighty sinew]

ok

[mighty sinew]

Ayo,schizo

[meager jewel]

I can't find the scenario

[cobalt temple]

Not released yet

Also

WHEN YOU GONNA RELEASE ITTT 😭😭😭

[glossy heron]

__ ## Just give it up bro its over 😭💔__
The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves in Exile in 1936.

(They've been in Angola for the past 100 years.)

[glossy heron]

boring alliances also

[glossy heron]

Il Deux Tretiy Roms: Age of the Second Renaissance [wip]

__ The Two Third Romes __

The Russian Civil War has been retconned in favor of a better scenario with Europe in two different spheres of influence, the French and Russians. Though having mixed dynasties with each other, relations have strained between both empires after the Great War and continue to claim either Paris or Moscow as the Third Rome.

The incompetent United Commonwealth of Virginia claim their “Washingtonople” as the Third Rome though no one listens to these babbling American buffoons.

[mighty sinew]

Noooooo,why did u retcon it?
U kinda suck

[glossy heron]

its overdone

russian warlord era/civil war is the most overdone and unoriginal thing so i changed that for this scenario 😭💔

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[glossy heron]

The Savoyard Empire/State (Neo-Angevin Empire) in 1936, a somewhat major power in europe.

• Kingdom of Sardinia

• Kingdom of Illyria

• Savoyard Colony of the Congo

[mighty sinew]

Ok,but how does savoy own illyria

[glossy heron]

i'll answer this in the morning it’s 12am 💔

actually ill let a brief summary

[mighty sinew]

Damm, it's 11:43 here,pretty similar despite being faraway

[mighty sinew]

Sowwy

[glossy heron]

nvm this brief summary is long

ill answer in the morning

[mighty sinew]

Ok

But it is the morning

[mighty sinew]

Ik

[glossy heron]

• Tsarina Elizabeth of Russia was able to live a bit longer, enough for Prussia to eventually surrender in the Seven Years' War in 1762.

• Due to Prussia being destroyed in the Seven Years' War, Russia and Austria would break off Silesia and East Prussia from Prussia (Now Brandenburg),

• Frederick II would eventually commit suicide after his long depression from losing in the Seven Years' War with a Prussian 1731 Dragoon Pistol in his bedroom in 1763. This would lead to a younger Frederick William II to be crowned king of Brandenburg.

• Russia would then trade East Prussia to Poland-Lithuania for the acquirement of Polish Courland. (And lands similar to that of the first partition of Poland-Lithuania.)

• With Poland-Lithuania not being partitioned, it would continue to serve as a vassal state under Russian control and a buffer state between the Austrians and Russians.

• Skipping the Napoleonic Wars to 1848, Russia was busy handling a Jacobin Revolution in Poland-Lithuania where they would in turn gain lands similar to the lands they gained in the second partition.

• With Russia not intervening in the Hungarian Revolution of 1848, the Hungarian State would eventually succeed against Austria. This would result in the Habsburg Monarchy losing the entirety of Hungary except Slavonia and Dalmatia. However, with the Croatians siding with the Austrians against the Hungarians, they would secede from the Austrian Empire as it lost control over Croatia after the Croatians held a war of independence against Austria.

• With Croatia being vulnerable to the National Liberalist Hungarians in the North, Illyrian Movement members would be elected into the Croatian Parliament. They would rejuvenate the term “Illyrian” and would offer Serbia, which both hate Hungary (Serbia despises Hungary due to the failed Serbian Revolution, though Hungary would still grant them autonomy to shut them the hell up and stop revolting) a union between each other.

• With the Tenth Russo-Turkish War beginning early in 1851, with France getting involved on the side of Russia, the Ottomans would slowly lose control of Bosnia, which would then be annexed into Croatia after being pushed by the French and Russians.

• By 1853, the Croatians and Serbians would unite after integrating the Illyrian language and all of that, creating the Triune Kingdom of Croatia, Serbia, and Bosnia. To keep tensions from escalating between the Croats and Serbs, they would invite Victor Emmanuel II, King of Sardinia, to become King of Illyria. He would be known as Tomislav II in Illyria.

• This would result in Sardinia continuing to be a composite monarchy similar to that of the Angevin Empire.

• Fast forward to the 1936, the Triune Kingdom is a complete dystopian state you'd see in any futuristic movie caused by Tesla, with smog everywhere due to the innovation of factories in Second Renaissance. Newer cities in the Triune Kingdom would also take inspiration from Le Corbusier's “Ville Radieuse” (due to it being cheaper in this POD.)

this is a rough draft

[glossy heron]

China is about to go through a huge change 😭

bare with me here

hinting of no qing dynasty being created

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[mighty sinew]

It's been 3 days since the last message,tf have u been working on,M'lady

[glossy heron]

researching about china, tibet, and mongolia

so i can replace the lore i had for china and stuff with this newer one

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[mighty sinew]

Is there gonna be more or less?

[glossy heron]

more considering the point of divergence for china starts on 1644

[mighty sinew]

Jesus christ, that's loong

[glossy heron]

will restart africa entirely soon

due to

no berlin conference happening

😭

with my realization happening

[glossy heron]

will also add antarctic territories

💔

[mighty sinew]

Ok,bruh

[glossy heron]

__ Last version of Europe until release (i think) __

• British People's Republic (Weimar Germany but British)

• National Republic of Daneland (Another Weimar Germany, but Danish)

• Irish Republic

• Norwegian Republic

• Kingdom of Iceland (Scandinavian Monarchy in Exile)

• Swedish Socialist Republic

• French Empire
  -# Kingdom of Italy
  -# Rome Governorship
  -# Emirate of Shaam
  -# Beylik of Tunisia

• Russian Empire
  -# Grand Duchy of Finland
  -# United Baltic Governorate-General
  -# Caucasus Viceroyalty
  -# Tsarigrad Governorate-General

• Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

• Kingdom of Sardinia
  -# Triune Kingdom of Illyria
  -# Kingdom of Montenegro

• Tsardom of Bulgaria
  -# Grand Duchy of Wallachia

• Iberian Republic
  -# Protectorate of Morocco

• Hungarian Republic
  -# Slovak Republic
  -# Republic of Vojvodina

• Kingdom of Moldavia

• Kingdom of Holland

• Kingdom of Meridione

• Principality of Lucca and Piombino

• Swiss Confederation

• Socialist Workers' Federation of Rumelia

• Habsburg Empire

• Ottoman Federation

• Kingdom of Greece

__ Confederation of the Rhine __

• Kingdom of Westphalia
• Kingdom of Brandenburg
• Kingdom of Saxony
• Grand Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
• Hanseatic Kingdom of Hamburg
• Grand Duchy of Oldenburg
• Principality of Waldeck and Pyrmont
• United Kingdom of Thuringia
• Grand Duchy of Franconia (Bavaria is in Austria)
• Kingdom of Württemberg
• Principality of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
• Grand Duchy of Baden
• Grand Duchy of Würzberg
• Duchy of Frankfurt
• Grand Duchy of Hesse
• Grand Duchy of Berg
• Duchy of Nassu
• Principality of Liechtenstein

this looks more aesthetically pleasing

[glossy heron]

__ Newer Indian Subcontinent + Tibet__

• Maharashtra Confederacy

• Hyderabad State

• Kingdom of Mysore

• Kingdom of Travancore

• Madras Settlements

• Dominion of Bengalistan and Burma

• Emirate of Afghanistan

• Sikh Empire

• Empire of Hindustan

• Kingdom of Nepal

• Kingdom of Bhutan

• Kingdom of Sikkim

• Great Tibetan Buddhahood

[glossy heron]

FORGOT TO MENTION THE KINGDOM OF ANDORRA (Bourbon Royalist State)

[mighty sinew]

Dawg,why r there so less compared to the earlier versions
😭

[glossy heron]

independent assam, bombay, and bihar doesnt make sense

💔

the mughal empire is still there at least

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[mighty sinew]

Wut? Empire of Hindustan?

[glossy heron]

yes

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[mighty sinew]

I'm not your boyfriend nor your lover so can u please stop acting like I broke your heart every few messages?

[glossy heron]

what bro 😭

i use that emoji towards everyone

[mighty sinew]

Then why didn't I see you text it to others?

[glossy heron]

?? 😭

[glossy heron]

__ Australia Redone __

• Republiken Ulimaroa (Scandinavians and Aboriginals)

• Koninkrijk Nieuw Holland (Organists in-exile after the Batavian Revolution with support from the British)

• United Kingdom of New South Wales and Aotearoa (British Government in-exile after the British Revolution in 1914)
  -# Kingdom of Tonga
  -# Kingdom of Fiji

• Dominion of Australie

[glossy heron]

__ Indonesia __

-# (will probably change because I am NOT satisfied)

• New Batavian Commonwealth
  -# West Papua State
  -# Samudera Pasai Sultanate (managed to survive against Aceh)
  -# Majapahit Kingdom (rump state of its former self, weak and shriveled up and bends to the Commonwealth.)
  -# Sultanate of Ternate

• Dominion of Australie (again)

• Sultanate of Banjar

• Raj of Sarawak

• Lafang Republic

• Bruneian Empire

• United Federated Malaysian States

• Insular Government of the East Indies

[mighty sinew]

Ohhh

[glossy heron]

__ South America Redone __

• Removal of the Empire of Amazonia (Empire of Brazil rump state)

• Dominion of Falkland

• Republic of Cymru Newydd

• Free Mapuche Kingdom of Araucanía and Patagonia

• Socialist Republic of São Paulo -> Socialist Republic of Brazil

• Dominion of New Granada

• Dominion of Peru

• United States of Colombia

__ Argentine Civil War __

• Argentine Confederation

• Argentine Republic

• Independent State of Buenos Aires

[glossy heron]

__ The Levant __

(Probably)

• Anadolu-Arabistan Federation (Ottoman dual monarchy)

• Free City of Antioch (Papacy was forced to move here due to Rome and Leonine being integrated in the Rome Governorship)

• Emirate of Sham

• Mount Lebanon Colony

• Hebrew Free State

[glossy heron]

peak update released

will add ideologies and troop types

[mighty sinew]

Ohhhh,what will they be?mistress?

[glossy heron]

removing every base ideology (except theocracy and communism) since “democracy” and “autocracy” aren't ideologies and are just government types.

Fascism will be removed due to fascism not really existing in this world.

Troop types, due to the somewhat Great War (8th Coalition) being fought over the ocean while land was somewhat restricted, you'll just have to guess what technological advances have been created.

[mighty sinew]

Ok, M'lady

I'm not a simp

[hard birch]

💔

[mighty sinew]

What?

[odd tulip]

When are finished

[dapper tartan]

@glossy heron is it shared yet?

[glossy heron]

sorry, i havent did anything due to being burnt out and bored. i will restart on working on this since asia will be changed a ton 💔

(this version of china actually locks in and protects its tributary states)

[glossy heron]

terrible screenshot

__ The Roman Empire __

• Roman Empire
  -# Principality of Moisía

• Tsarigrad Governorate-General

[mighty sinew]

It's not terrible

[glossy heron]

Gulp…

• Mongolian Tsardom (Mongol Empire larpers)
  -# Serindian Protectorate

• Empire of Dà Qīng (Russian Vassal State)

[mighty sinew]

Awesome

[round depot]

This might be a lot to ask, but can you show me some of the new flags you made for this scenario, if you made any yet at all?

[glossy heron]

maybe maybe not

sick man of europe 💔

• Scandinavian Empire
  -# Kingdom of Daneland (I like the name)
  -# Kingdom of Sweden
  -# Kingdom of Norway

• General Government of Sápmi (Russian administrated obviously)

[mighty sinew]

Bruh

[mighty sinew]

Why do you do the heart emoji so many times?

[glossy heron]

why not

redoing india again due to me changing my mind a 4th time

[mighty sinew]

Whyyyy.
Weird coincidence , Im also gonna rework

[glossy heron]

balance

britain will be back to normal with its colonies due to the great war not happening and instead just a second seven years war

💔

wait

seven years war was just a world war

a smaller conflict with france and the usa

[glossy heron]

__ Dongbei __

• Protectorate of Dongbei (Chinese Protectorate)

• Empire of Daicing Gurun (The Manchu language lives and never declines in this alternate timeline and is a russian vassal 💔)

• Empire of Korea

qing are essentially gonna be the poland of this world 💔

[cinder pilot]

dawg how much is the Qing going to be spilt

[odd tulip]

no disrespect but how many times are you going to change this before you release🥀

[glossy heron]

have to balance it somehow with the approach i want to go with bro 💔

cant just have france and russia be the most powerful and easily conquer the world, you need to have something to counter every country 💔

[round depot]

Russia is the strongest country in the world

[glossy heron]

though powerful it still needs to have debuffs aka: unindustrialized, poor, and just all around more shittier along with her vassals and allies

which is why i have 5 major powers that counter each other 💔

[glossy heron]

__ The Middle Eastern Powder Keg __

• Alawiyya Caliphate of Egypt (De Facto French Protectorate)
  -# Alawiyya Sultanate of the Levant
  -# Alawiyya Sultanate of Cyrenaica
  -# Hejaz Governorate

• Guarded Domains of Iran (Russian Vassal)

• Sublime Ottoman Federation (British Allied Nation)
  -# Rashidi Emirate

• Residency of the Persian Gulf (British Territory)

• Aden Federation (Meridionian Colony)
  -# Principality of Najran

• Emirate of Riyadh

• Omani Empire (De Facto British Protectorate)

[mighty sinew]

1)who are meridonia?
2)this looks like a Pax Brittanica copy

[glossy heron]

• unified South Italy/naples + sicily country i came up with myself that's a maritime empire

• gulp…

[mighty sinew]

Sorry

[glossy heron]

here's where the hebrew free state was moved

kenyan israel

[mighty sinew]

Lol

[glossy heron]

reverted the ottomans back to a turkish-arabian dual monarchy because federalism is mid

[mighty sinew]

But look at the middle east following rework,the borders are almost identical at some places

[glossy heron]

theres a large difference bro 💔

alr

💔

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[glossy heron]

omani empire is old because it originally had zanzibar-tanganyika in its empire but i removed that

egypt in pax britannica is a mamluk egypt that survives from the ottomans while mine is a alawiyya led egypt where they won the second ottoman-egyptian war with french support

[glossy heron]

i finished all the russian vassals and autonomies flags 🥀

i have to do the china flags now

which will be a pain since i have to draw the main china flag

[lunar kite]

Oof good luck chat

[glossy heron]

__ Unimportance. __

Another change to the Confederation of the Rhine

• Kingdom of Hanover (Britain accepts the Sicily for Hanover peace deal, not apart of the CoTR)

• Crown Colony of Heligoland (British Colony)

• Duchy of Aremburg

• Hanseatic Kingdom of Hamburg

• Duchy of Schleswig-Holstein

• Added Swedish Pomerania back…

• Brutally Murdered Waldeck and Pyrmont

[glossy heron]

__ Another Boring Thing __

-# Updated Brazil before the larger Asia showcase…

From top to bottom

• Revolutionary Utopia of Brazil (Monarchy Collapsed after a whole 60 years in the north)
• Islamic Ummah of Brazil
• Divine Mandate of Brazil (Integralists)
• Brazilian Republic (Boring)

[floral compass]

Ummah means community

[round depot]

No one asked

[odd tulip]

I asked

[glossy heron]

i know

[mighty sinew]

Absolute schizo

[floral compass]

Islamic Community of Brazil
💀

[round depot]

Shut up

[round depot]

Shut up

[glossy heron]

poland-lithuania has been expanded

mix of both the 2nd and 3rd partition

[glossy heron]

three buddhist theocracies in asia but oh well

bit repetitive but makes it more interesting

🥀

[glossy heron]

that being tibet (unsurprising), dai nam, and nippon (very surprising)

[hardy elm]

Sigma map

[glossy heron]

im possibly going to be switching phone providers 😭 (I use an iPhone and pay for iCloud) so HOPEFULLY this doesnt get lost while i transfer stuff since yk 🥀

ive made and kept 5 save files incase my file ever gets corrupted im paranoid

[floral compass]

Upload it then

[glossy heron]

no

🥀

[floral compass]

Ok , Ms Shion

[glossy heron]

__ Irrelevant change… __

• Removed Louisiana and Neuvo México 🥀

• Added Newfoundland…

[round depot]

You better make an alternate version with every single removed country or else I will kill you

[glossy heron]

not doing allat bro 🥀

[glossy heron]

__ Had to change the Balkans for the final time I hope __

• Austrian Empire
  -# Kingdom of Croatia (Austro-Croatian Empire)
  -# Republic of Ragusa (Alternate War of the Fifth Coalition against the Ottomans leads to the Maritime Republic surviving)

• Basileia Rhomaion (Roman Empire)

• Bulgarian Republic (Revolted against the Roman Empire, inspired by the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 due to their succession)

• United Principalities of Rumania

• Kingdom of Balkania (Serbia and Montenegro)

• United States of the Ionian Islands (Britain keeps these islands in order to counter the French Empire and Meridione)

[mighty sinew]

Hmmmmm

[lunar kite]

Interesting

[glossy heron]

__ nvm probably the ACTUAL final time __

• Hungarian Socialist Republic (The Austria-Hungary of this world)

• Kingdom of Slovakia (Romanov on the throne in compensation of Russian support for their independence)

• State of Transylvania (Compare this to the otl Bosnia and Herzegovina except theres Hungarians and Romanians)

[mighty sinew]

We gotta call ACP

[glass wedge]

this area look better in my opinion

for translylvania

[round depot]

Go away

[glass wedge]

it looks like hungary is squeezing

at least some kind fo rectangle shape is alr

[round depot]

I said go away

[glossy heron]

its based off the ethnic map of austria-hungary

[floral compass]

Hmmm

[glass wedge]

but still transylvania pushed too much

[round depot]

Shut up and leave

[glass wedge]

whats ur problem

[glossy heron]

(ts is what happens when you let Russians do negotiations without any other nations participating other than one that is connected to your royal family (France) 🥀)

Russia and other countries saw magyarization (ironic coming from Russia) and Hungarians as uncivilized and barbaric. Here they were largely criticized and would be punished even more harshly (hungary won their independence in 1849 and would have a harder time trying to crack down on other ethnic minority groups which would result in larger oppression) by the Russians and French. Since Romania didn’t participate in the war (forced to be a neutral power by France, Austria, and Russia) there would be a creation of a neutral state between both Hungary and Romania which would be Transylvania/Ardeal with a large mix of both Hungarians and Romanians to safeguard both majority ethnic group interests (Bosnia and Srpska type)

its 4 am almost 5 am im sorry if i sound incomprehensible and if this sounds stupid im tired asl 🥀

i might give west banat back to serbia now that i think of it

[glass wedge]

so we say no to hungarians?

[floral compass]

Nuh uh
Assam was historically home to the highly powerful Ahoms and Bihar is very important+a lot of empires originated and/or had their capital in bihar
Bombay/Mumbai was the capital of the Maratha Confederacy,a very important historical state

[round depot]

-🤓☝️

[glossy heron]

yeah but this didnt stop the british from conquering them due to being so divided and unorganized zir

[glossy heron]

this would probably happen in a different way irl 🥀

being picked apart by neighbors due to instability from ethnic conflict

[mighty sinew]

Still,it would be good if you add them
Best girl

[glossy heron]

doesnt help that hungarian nobility was the cause of hungary not reforming at all

[mighty sinew]

Is that the green one or the blue one?

[mighty sinew]

How is bonapartist related to romanovs?

[glossy heron]

Napoleon was going to marry Alexander I's younger sister but Alexander's mother, Maria Feodorovna would keep him from letting him come to an agreement with napoleon which is a reason why Napoleon wasnt able to marry Anna Pavlovna

in this POD, she gets diagnosed with pneumonia and would pass away in 1808 which would allow Napoleon to successfully marry Anna Pavlovna in 1809 and would be able to create a heir 🥀

[glossy heron]

this also leads Austria to not listen to the British on invading the Duchy of Franconia (Bavaria is apart of Austria and Napoleon would create a Duchy out of the Franconia region) and Italian territories in 1809 since you know, a Franco-Russian Alliance is very threatening to the Austrians

[mighty sinew]

What's the country in south somalia and the uganda kenya thing

[glossy heron]

austria 🥀

that map is severely outdated

[mighty sinew]

Oh,ok btw can you link the map for indonesia and the areas surrounding it?

[mighty sinew]

What the dark green in borneo?

[glossy heron]

pausing the development of asia because i wanna make a red flood map for fun

🥀

nvm got bored instantly

[mighty sinew]

RIP , it was gonna be better than mine

[mighty sinew]

Can you stop using that emoji

[glossy heron]

__ ## Africa __

• British West African Confederation

• Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria

• South African Federation (They only have Namibia and Botswana)

• Central African Federation

• Protectorate of East Africa

• Hebrew Free State

• North African Governorship

• West African Administrations

• Middle Congo Administration

• French East African Settlements

• Kingdom of Burundi

• Kingdom of Rwanda

• Malagasy Protectorate

• Alawiyya Sultanate of Egypt

• Alawiyya Sultanate of Cyrenaica

• Franco-Meridionian Condominia of Libya

• Aden Federation

• Governorate of the Gulf of Guinea (Cameroon)

• Commonwealth of Liberia

• West Africa Province

• East Africa Province

• Republic of the Cape of Good Hope

• Natalia Republic

• South African Republic

• Orange Free State

• Kingdom of Swaziland

• Abyssinian Empire

• Sultanate of Aussa

(im getting bored of the scenario so im barely touching it mb)

[mighty sinew]

Really?now

[lunar kite]

Nice progress on this, keep up.

[floral compass]

India rework teaser

[glossy heron]

its gonna be the entirety of asia since i changed it all

[mighty sinew]

OMG

[floral compass]

Wow

[glossy heron]

india borders are terrible 😭

this has been a pain bro…

have to use a hoi4 map of the raj for ts 🥀

[lunar kite]

Good luck vro

[glossy heron]

__ The Horn of Africa __

Somehow, someway, the Meridionians, British, and Abyssinians have been pushed out of most of Somalia by the Dervish Order in Somalia. This has been an embarrassment for all three nations, especially the Meridionians with their ignorance and incompetence have lost the majority of their Somali Coast Land within their Aden Protectorate while the Abyssinians have lost almost the entirety of their Somali Region.

• Great Dervish Order

• Collective Territories of Aden and the Somali Coast

• Abyssinian Empire

• Aden Federation

theres also Aussa but no one gaf…

[floral compass]

I do

[glossy heron]

i have 48 country slots left and i feel like wasting more

more unnecessary independent small colonies and autonomous states on the map

[glossy heron]

49

[glossy heron]

Russians.

[lunar kite]

I don’t even want to know how that happened…

[glossy heron]

russia is gonna gain hawaii so in exchange they're losing a bit of a large amount of land 🥀

me when i

total removal of endonyms also

if you gaf

[glossy heron]

NOT EVEN GONNA SPEAK ABOUT THIS ONE

you already know

🌾

ive never seen a weak usa ever in these napoleonic scenarios

so im being original

[mighty sinew]

Damm, he makes real good scenarios
Shame that it hasn't been completed after so long

[glossy heron]

i keep changing how i want it to be 🥀

i still havent done ideologies and units

in like 2 months

3*

the first terrible version of this idea came to me a year ago

[mighty sinew]

Terrible for him

[mighty sinew]

It's not terrible, dude

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[glossy heron]

referring to the first version of the scenario

[mighty sinew]

Dude, no version is terrible
Stop bluffing

[glossy heron]

holy mother of pearl 😭🌾

yuck

oh

[mighty sinew]

Dude , stop acting like it's bad

It's not

[glossy heron]

it has that ugly, outdated outline on my old maps which i hate

[mighty sinew]

1. it's not ugly
   2)Seriously dude, I've never seen a man in my entire life who changes his maps that much

[glossy heron]

the early versions had historical biases also

so

the modern version is better

[mighty sinew]

Nooo,
Stop lying man

[mighty sinew]

Nah, it's the same for me

[glossy heron]

im literally not lying

this will probably release after i finish adding the ideologies, units, and balancing the nations

after i post the giant asia change

[mighty sinew]

Bro, dude you prolly are lying considered you lied to me about being a girl while you were a dude + all are good in my opinion

[mighty sinew]

You already told that

[mighty sinew]

Here

[glossy heron]

these do not correlate at all zir…

[mighty sinew]

Do not call me zir
If a person has the capacity to lie about their gender then they surely do about an opinion

They do correlate

[glossy heron]

i had historical biases in the scenario before this point

[mighty sinew]

I don't notice any bias, person

[glossy heron]

also heres what the americas and africa WAS gonna look like

“The United Commonwealth of Virginia”

holy mother of mid

[mighty sinew]

It's decent
Kinda many countries but still good

Stop lying to yourself, person
Youre only make it worse fot yourself, person

It's not that bad as you make it seem like, person

[glossy heron]

i had like 180 countries

[mighty sinew]

Yeah, but still, it's way better than anything I can make, those get no comments except mine
Person, your works are good

[mighty sinew]

It's the greatest thing I've ever seen

[mighty sinew]

Man , I added every princely state in an althist scenario and every middle eastern country in an ww1 scenario
I do that too, person
It's nothing to be afraid of, PERson

[glossy heron]

you can also see i copied PXB a lot in the older versions (india and brazil)

changed all of that anyway

[mighty sinew]

Me too but accidentally

[mighty sinew]

Ok

[glossy heron]

i did it purposely so

🌾

[mighty sinew]

I also copy lol

PERSON, you may think of your works as crap but they're good , far better than anything I can do

Uuuuuugggh, I have no reason to convince this evil man to change his opinion

Byye

for now

[mighty sinew]

My recreation of the world in your scenario(highly rough attempt)

[mighty sinew]

I'm sorry for getting angry at you for lying about your gender
Why did you change your name to mi903 freakfield

[glossy heron]

its not that serious but alright

[mighty sinew]

What do you mean?
You only changed it cuz of me

Sowwy

[glossy heron]

no

what

[mighty sinew]

The name

Also, why'd you even lie in the first place?

[glossy heron]

i changed it because i like it

[glossy heron]

the funny

[mighty sinew]

It's not funny

I thought you were a good person, not like the average member of the aoh2 community(those people are evil)

[mighty sinew]

Your humor is trash

[glossy heron]

i lied about being a girl here like thrice bro 😭

[mighty sinew]

Cuz you a bad person

[glossy heron]

how 🥀

[mighty sinew]

Good persons don't lie about their gender
I only said that I was a girl cuz at that time, I still believed you were a women

[glossy heron]

its not even that serious anyway 😭🙏

[mighty sinew]

It is?you don't know the embarassment of thinking somebody was one gender and them being a different gender

[glossy heron]

its not

you’re overreacting over it 😭

[mighty sinew]

I know, but my iq is 116 so

Hippity hoppity

You have been

Ity

[glossy heron]

what

[mighty sinew]

Blockity

[glossy heron]

whomp ig

[mighty sinew]

Forget about me

[glossy heron]

ok

[mighty sinew]

Ok, and as my catchphrase goes
Goodbye Forever, we'll never meet again

[glossy heron]

just go already bro idc 😭

[mighty sinew]

Can you stop replying already, ugggh

Bye

[glossy heron]

this is my media gallery bro

[mighty sinew]

Shut up already and stop replying
Leave me alone

[glossy heron]

??????

[mighty sinew]

Don't reply to this message

[glossy heron]

holy victim mentality dawg…

just unfollow the post

and you wont get notifications

literally that easy

[mighty sinew]

Done

I don't even have notifs on

[glossy heron]

why are you even still reading my messages if you blocked me 😭

quit replying and go

[mighty sinew]

Holy christ

[glossy heron]

me when i also

[mighty sinew]

Bro, why is armenia not in armenia?

Sucky borders

[glossy heron]

because east armenia is still owned by iran🥀

so west armenia is armenia

[mighty sinew]

Bro, stop using 🥀 on me
I'm straight

[glossy heron]

what does this have to do with sexuality dawg 😭

[mighty sinew]

Cuz a common phrase for love becoming stronger is "love's blosssoming"and wilting is the opposite of blossoming,
So, every time I see you use it, I feel like your dating me and wish to break up

[glossy heron]

thats not even what im trying to use a dying rose for but alright

[mighty sinew]

Ok,

[lunar kite]

Bros cooking 👍 🔥 👍 🫡 🫡

[glossy heron]

im putting magic into the scenario🥀

[glossy heron]

magic doesnt appear until 1908 (you can guess what event causes that) so its not really that developed

no world wars either so

i want my floating cities

[mighty sinew]

Wut happened?

[glossy heron]

nothing

[mighty sinew]

Aaahhhhhh

[glossy heron]

99th time redoing the balkans and the middle east

[glossy heron]

šćepan mali's success in montenegro.

montenegro DOMINATES serbia…

[mighty sinew]

Schizo, I like it

[mighty sinew]

Isn't Mali an african country?

[glossy heron]

scepen mali was a guy who impersonated peter III in montenegro

and became its only tsar

he was actually one of the best leaders 😭

catherine had him step down but then put him back as tsar since he was the reason montenegrin tribes stoped fighting

[glossy heron]

oh yeah but before he was put back on the throne he injured himself after being blown up by a mine

then got assassinated by one of his servants paid off by the ottomans

[glossy heron]

last thing i show before revealing the entirety of asia 🥀

also need to update the confederation of the rhine borders

🥀

[mighty sinew]

Wow

[mighty sinew]

Nice pfp