Realistic Cold war 1952-1955

[torn owl]

A good map that is very old but was updated again after months!

[torn owl]

Coming soon (Could be more new)

[plucky plinth]

🔥

[torn owl]

W you

[plucky plinth]

Its interesting how the ussr allies are painted with similar colors like them even egypt who was a communist country at that time based on my history

[torn owl]

Ok

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New Update!

Update [1,5]

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@plucky plinth

Big Update!: there are coalition NATO vs Warsaw Pact new puppets and countries for example British Cyprus almost all countries have new colors and borders/flags have been changed some and much more new

[plucky plinth]

Great news :D

[torn owl]

@plucky plinth new update bro

[plucky plinth]

Yea thats what we were waiting for >:D

[torn owl]

sry, I was working on the colors

[plucky plinth]

@torn owl There is an interesting detail i wanted to share, in middle east seria had the golan part from israel and egypt had gaza strip, its not important to add it but i thought it would be helpful as you gave western bank to jordon who are all gonna have the six days war which usa and ussr played role at with israel in the future to claim these lands

[torn owl]

No i can Show you map

[plucky plinth]

Iam pretty sure the six days war was at 1967 so

[torn owl]

Update 1.7

New Countries
new demands on countries
military has been fixed
Warsaw Pact became stronger
*****nato was fixed (made weaker) *****

@plucky plinth

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Update 1.8

2 New Countries
Greece civil war
Italy Bug Fixed
more realistic
military better and worse
gdp has been fixed
**and new flags/color **

and more!

[torn owl]

Update 1.9

- new colors
- new changes
- NATO became weaker and overworked
- new features
- new gdp and population

and more

[cyan quiver]

austria is divided wrong btw

there was never an east or west austria

[torn owl]

Idiot no

bro it was divided divided but

I made it democratic and communist as French and British

[cyan quiver]

it was divided

into 4 countries

Uk, France, USA, and Soviets

not 2

its kinda ignorant trying to call me the idiot considering thats literally how it was

[torn owl]

Idiot i knoe

Know

[torn owl]

bro one side is democratic and one was communist that's why it is like that

[torn owl]

That's why it's called democracy Austria 💀

I could even name the change for idiots

[cyan quiver]

there was no democratic austria

it was simply occupied by other powers

[torn owl]

democratic side and shut up

[cyan quiver]

there was no communist austria

it was the soviet union

[torn owl]

I know bruh

was communist side

[cyan quiver]

ok then

lemme point out every fallacy of your map

[torn owl]

yes but sorry for calling you an idiot

[cyan quiver]

yea but going out of your way to call my maps worse is crazy

[torn owl]

None of our maps are bad or good

We both have very good maps

🤝

[cyan quiver]

so im not gonna point out every fallacy

then

[torn owl]

I didn't make any mistakes or mistakes

I can also explain to you why I did that

[cyan quiver]

well lemme show you them then

[torn owl]

Bro

I did everything right

[cyan quiver]

ok then

starting off with africa

[torn owl]

Africa is nothing wrong because I use a website

In general, you can also make countries with a claim system independent in Africa

there is nothing wrong

because I could at least write that the map goes from 1950 to 1970

[cyan quiver]

South African exlave countries (like lesotho) are smaller and offplace, spanish morocco (specifically western sahara) and bumpy and not straight, french moroccan borders are off, somoliland-somolia border curves too far, ecuatorial guinea is too bumpy/unwanted bump at the bottom, British Libyan-french border doesnt have the northern panhandle curve correctly/south part is not straight, camaros and seychelles isnt supposed to be there, guinea-bissau is supposed to be portuguese, and thats it for africa i suppose

[torn owl]

should I bet from Google?

because google is often wrong

[torn owl]

I'm trying to do Africa but then I'll probably have to make the borders original, that'll be difficult

[cyan quiver]

well

onto europe ig

[torn owl]

Thanks

yes, thanks for the tip about Africa, I'll take a look at it soon when I have time

my problem is school

[cyan quiver]

aight, cool

[torn owl]

German schools really suck

The update wasn't that big either, I just edited features

[cyan quiver]

well in europe the issues are: Greek civil war ended in 1949 (meaning greece is full democratic,) Nato is too large: West Germany, Greece, and Spain didnt join nato yet, Yugoslavia wasnt in the Warsaw pact, Austria is divided wrong

[torn owl]

Next time with 2.0 update I'll figure it out how to do it

[cyan quiver]

also spain was fascist

Liechtenstein is offplace too btw

[torn owl]

So the map should be 1950-1970

And according to the website, the war was supposed to be over by the end of 1950

[cyan quiver]

different things changed in those time periods, its too far of a range to put

[torn owl]

and Yugoslavia was the Warsaw Pact

I counted the Warsaw Pact countries and the countries involved

[cyan quiver]

its not

[torn owl]

Is

[torn owl]

Uhh

[torn owl]

My fault

but was involved

[cyan quiver]

yugos

[torn owl]

Yes

[cyan quiver]

although yugoslavia was communist, it wanted nothing to do with nato and the soviets

[torn owl]

yes, but was often involved

[cyan quiver]

they literally founded the non-aligned movement

although its later in the timeline its easy to say yugoslavia did not want to be a part in this

[torn owl]

and in one map version, Spain was not a NATO member

[cyan quiver]

and they had franco in power

aka fascist

[torn owl]

yes, but at that time it was so involved and even supported Greece where it was civil

[torn owl]

Yes

[cyan quiver]

its 1950

not

1990\

[torn owl]

I will edit, swapped with EU

[cyan quiver]

Eu isnt a military alliance

its economical

[torn owl]

I know

The map will soon be moved to 1952 by me

[cyan quiver]

also that kidna removes other nato states relevancy such as the united states

[torn owl]

Then I'll pay attention to things, don't worry 👍🏻

[cyan quiver]

pls dont create democracy austria 😭

[torn owl]

Jo chill😂

I'll edit this weekend

monday

[torn owl]

I change the map 1950-70

1950-1970*

then Austria will no longer be divided

[torn owl]

Somalia border is right

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Libya part is also correct on the map

[cyan quiver]

its not

[cyan quiver]

lemme show you

[torn owl]

Is

[torn owl]

bro I use a website

not google

[cyan quiver]

i said

let me

show you

[torn owl]

No bro

I go offline

[torn owl]

Uhh

Yes i fix this monday

But i go offline

[torn owl]

Greece join nato in 1952 but the map is soon 1950-1960 i fix that

[cyan quiver]

then do 1952-1960

having a timeframe when inbetween those years there are certain changes is like

not cool

[torn owl]

Yes

[cyan quiver]

wait

no

1952-1955

[torn owl]

Ok

[cyan quiver]

because austria unites late 1955

in fact why bother doing a time frame

just do 1952

[torn owl]

yes, I'll do it

I also want Austria to be united

[cyan quiver]

then do 1956

[torn owl]

Ok then not

I'm not keen on the zones being made

[cyan quiver]

then its inaccurate

[torn owl]

2.0 Update

new boundaries
new claims from other countries
realistic gdp
new attitude

and more

[cyan quiver]

Austria was united post 1955

that makes the year range off

[torn owl]

bro can you stop complaining? there are things between the year 1952-1960 bruh

[cyan quiver]

that makes

no sense

but ok

[torn owl]

bruh you complain about everything

[cyan quiver]

i dont, but thats a fallacy i specifically said not to do earlier

...

[torn owl]

That's just how you look directly at Austria

[torn owl]

bro the map is between 1952-1960 if I do 1955 then I have to redo everything

[cyan quiver]

then do 1952

i dont see anything wrong except for austria (and the way the borders look)

[torn owl]

You can already see with claims that they would actually be divided

[cyan quiver]

huh

[torn owl]

Cold war 1952

[plucky plinth]

Finally realistic gdp

I havent played this mode for a while sorry xD

[torn owl]

Oh yea i making new update xd

@plucky plinth and realistic military in 2.1update

[plucky plinth]

Yea

I couldnt resist readjusting the borders before the 6 days war of 1967 sorry xD

[torn owl]

Update 2.1

realistic update
realistic Military
** realistic gdp**

[torn owl]

the map is 1952-1960

oh, I see now

[plucky plinth]

Yea and the war where isreal has its current borders was at 1967 means that before 1967 it used to look like this

[torn owl]

Yea gaza

[plucky plinth]

I like how my country and their allies wanted to completely kick the jews out only for israel to strike first thanks to their spies

[torn owl]

what is your country

[torn owl]

I will fix these details in the next big dummynation update

[plucky plinth]

Egypt

[torn owl]

Nice

[plucky plinth]

They got violated by every nation out there lol i hate it

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my country is Germany

[plucky plinth]

Saw it coming

Czech painter

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Lol

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Cold war 1952-(1960)

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UPDATE 2.2

NEW COUNTRIES

NEW rebel

more realistic everything

everything has been edited

fixed

@plucky plinth

[plucky plinth]

Great

[torn owl]

took a long time for the update 😭

[plucky plinth]

Because of the rebels xD

[torn owl]

Nah

I redid the whole map

[torn owl]

I reworked the whole map because I wanted to have realistic borders

[plucky plinth]

Was there a lot of border bugs ?

I mean we already found the Israel one but rest should have been fine

[torn owl]

no there were no bugs, just wanted realistic limits because you can adjust settings

[plucky plinth]

Oh alright

[torn owl]

and here is an example

[plucky plinth]

This is actually cool

[torn owl]

Yea

but at least everything was made better

[plucky plinth]

I use the default graphics because iam afraid if I adjust the settings iam gonna ruin it xD

[torn owl]

Xd

[cyan quiver]

geometry dash reference??

[torn owl]

What you mean?

[cyan quiver]

search up gd 2.2

[torn owl]

this is update 2.2

[cyan quiver]

it looks like austria has been fixed

[torn owl]

I fixed many

[plucky plinth]

@torn owl that's some hard great work right there

[torn owl]

My map?

[plucky plinth]

But there are also some border issues like in Korea it was a straight line before the Korean war

[plucky plinth]

Yea especially the claims and kurdsitan

[torn owl]

But the war is 1949-1953

and my website showed me this

[torn owl]

I've redone the whole map and it was worth it especially east germany

I remember this🥲

[plucky plinth]

So like the map is at the time in mid Korean war

Before there was a treaty

[torn owl]

🥲🥲🥲🥲

[torn owl]

Old times

[plucky plinth]

Yea you actually put a lot of efforts on the map xD

[torn owl]

Yes

[plucky plinth]

It's one of the most 2 accurate maps in the game I have seen so far

Top 3 and below are cursed

[torn owl]

took me more than three hours to make this card

@plucky plinth

Update 2.0-2.1

Update 2.2

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The cool thing about it is that it actually gives the old times vibe which such graphics

[torn owl]

Yes

I can assure you this will not be the last update

[plucky plinth]

I can imagine this as a map a general would pull in the korean war

XD

[torn owl]

Yes

in China you can also make countries independent

and there are new countries

"sealand"

and can play as French Algeria

[plucky plinth]

Yea even though you spent a lot on the claims France still has some unfinished colony rebels but I guess you wanted to give us an early version

[torn owl]

it's difficult to make demands because some claims just leave automatically;(

Ups autocorrect*

[plucky plinth]

Try unclaim all lands then re occupy it so the ai colonies and the ai colonists actually be aware they are enemies so they won't give them independence

[torn owl]

Stats of most used countries

Wtf ukraine 715

[plucky plinth]

Iraq flashbacks

[torn owl]

Yes

And usa 2k☠️

[torn owl]

Vietnam 362☠️

luck is the map until 1960

WHYYY 13DISLIKES

[plucky plinth]

Humans can never agree at any conditions xD

[torn owl]

Update 2.3

new settings

New gdp and population settings

many more

[torn owl]

Realistic Cold war 1952-(1960)

Update 2.3 (Fix Update)

new colours

new settings

new military

more new

[cyan quiver]

still waiting for the day he changes it to 1952-1955

[celest pond]

Yugolasvia is democratic that’s wrong

I think

[hasty gull]

Ye it’s wrong it’s supposed to be communist/socialist

[torn owl]

yugoslavia was democratic

[torn owl]

yugoslavia was not communist

[celest pond]

At that time?

[torn owl]

1952

[celest pond]

Oh ok

[torn owl]

Nah it remains 1952-1960

[torn owl]

it was not communist ☠️☠️

[cyan quiver]

still inaccurate then

[torn owl]

Nah

[cyan quiver]

the map is unrelated to 1960

[torn owl]

1960 is in brackets bro

[cyan quiver]

and its not accurate to 1952 cuz libya

[cyan quiver]

then it makes no sense

[torn owl]

bro you are lying in 1952 Libya was independent

[cyan quiver]

i double checked

[cyan quiver]

libya was not fully independent

just given autonomy

[torn owl]

Nevertheless, my sources themselves confirm that it was so in 1952

[cyan quiver]

you mean the interactable map of every single year that has innaccuracies left and right?

i used the actual wikipedia

[torn owl]

Still my sources are different bro

[cyan quiver]

your using a completely inaccurate source that shouldn't be trusted

[torn owl]

bro first understand that the map of Libya was different

the boundaries are correct

[cyan quiver]

i didnt say the borders were wrong

libya is still under some form of control with the british/french

[torn owl]

then I'll just do puppet

[cyan quiver]

wait nvm

the autonomy was for Tripolitania and Fezzan

your good

[magic cliff]

Multi day yap

[torn owl]

💪

[torn owl]

Realistic Cold war 1952-1955

Update 2.4

everything has been adapted to the new update

everything has been changed

[placid mist]

It shows error

[torn owl]

Which error

From dummynation?

[placid mist]

Yes

[torn owl]

huh I never heard of any errors maybe you can help from #💬┆user-helps-user

[lyric sinew]

Bro is right austria didn't get divided

[torn owl]

bro doesn't know that the map is different ☠️ old times

[hasty gull]

Tito was a dictator

[torn owl]

Nevertheless, it was not a communism

[hasty gull]

mb Tito wasnt in charge yet

it was Ivan Ribar

Ivan ribar was a yugoslavist and communist

[torn owl]

Yugoslavia was socialist

[hasty gull]

correct I will tell you that

just communism but with more rights

[torn owl]

and that's almost like democracy

[hasty gull]

yes but a bit weird the leader at that time was a communist leading a country with elections

[torn owl]

Yes

In conclusion, Yugoslav socialism under Tito was a unique blend of socialist and federalist principles combined with a non-aligned foreign policy. It differed from other socialist models by introducing elements of worker self-management and a federal structure aimed at accommodating the country’s diverse ethnic groups. While it shared some similarities with democratic socialism, particularly in promoting worker participation, it was not a true democracy, as it remained a one-party state with limited political freedoms. Yugoslav socialism is best described as a form of decentralized socialism or economic democracy, with local autonomy in economic matters but authoritarian control at the political level.

[tame pagoda]

oh my lord my friend doesent get that austria did not get divided in two

east and west austria wasnt real

[torn owl]

Its old map

[tame pagoda]

no i mean my irl friend still thinks austria got divided into two like germany

[wet pecan]

whats the name i have been trying to find this but it seems like its impossible

[steep bloom]

Bro

Good map bro

[wet pecan]

i know right

the pnly good thing he can add if he didnt was the ussr country claims

or yugoslavia

[torn owl]

Thanks bro

I am no longer actively working on the map but I am still trying to bring updates

[steep bloom]

Good map bro How many days or weeks did it take you to create it?

[torn owl]

This map is more than a year old

[steep bloom]

Wow

it's amazing

[torn owl]

Like my name

If school is not stressful I can next update with the claims of Ukraine and etc. at the Soviet Union

[wet pecan]

but can u help me find the name i want it so much but cant find it

[torn owl]

DO in source "Cold" and scroll down

[wet pecan]

alr lemme try

[wet pecan]

i did it was good

but why is there armenian ssr named kurdistan

[torn owl]

Huh

[torn owl]

ITS Bug i fix that

[wet pecan]

alr

[torn owl]

UPDATE 2.5

• BORDER GOT FIXED
• MANY NEW CLAIMS
• NEW SETTINGS
  AND MUCH MORE

[torn owl]

I updated btw