Rank system doesn't work with small community | Inkbound | Page 1

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:51 PM

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It's more so just leaning towards the fact that the low ranks have to play the high rank. A rank 20 player cant join a lower ranked run. IF they're in a ranked run, with a lower ranked person or multiple people, it will always be the higher rank.

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the person with higher rank doesnt get punished

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but yes, low ranks likely wont keep up with jumping into something like R20. If they're your friends and you want to play together play unranked runs, or they're gona hve to learn

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:54 PM

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acoustic raven the person with higher rank doesnt get punished

The fact high level players insta-leave when matched with bronze is evidence enoug that punishment does exist and incentive doesn't.

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The odds of winning drastically drop, while the reward for downgrading is actually nothing.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:54 PM

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what punishment?

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oh just the fact they're matched with lower ranks?

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:54 PM

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Wasted time?

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1 hour of your time?

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:55 PM

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R20 players dont care, they arent climbing any more ranks

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ive never seen or met the high ranked playerbase care

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about that

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:55 PM

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Backup your save, get a fresh character and try to match

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:55 PM

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and the odds of winning dont drastically drop anyway

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slightly maybe

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but you can carry a lower rank

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:56 PM

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I started at R10 (gold) and literally everyone left until I got to like 60

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:56 PM

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you cant start at r10

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:56 PM

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You can, if you got 100% of everything in first season

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Imagine your chances at r0 with tin frame

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:56 PM

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i mean

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ive been there lol

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:57 PM

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At the start of the season, when everyone was climbing?

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:57 PM

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you've maybe had a couple weird experiences, but literally the playerbase as a whole

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doesnt care

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and dont leave cuz low ranks etc

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if anything i see more low ranks

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leaving

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when matched with the highs

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whne you're high rank you already know and expect there to be matchmaking with lower ranks

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thats how it has been

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if they cared, theyd run solo

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thats only half of your main points anyway, your other point about low ranks getting matched with high

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yeh thats a bit rough

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but you get experience faster IMO

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:59 PM

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Are you trying to say the current system is good?

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:59 PM

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and a win still boosts you

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 12:59 PM

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We're arguing about my experience and not my feedback

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 12:59 PM

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im not arguing, was just pointing out you were wrong on half your point

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having a couple people leave for w/e weird reason on you in a few runs

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by no means dictates the state of the game or playerbase

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cuz its not like that

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:00 PM

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A high ranked player can choose to restart a run at lower rank.

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It's not impossible

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:00 PM

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what

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:01 PM

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You can exit as a team and go for lower rank. That seems to be the point you're opposed to

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:01 PM

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you cant queue a lower rank

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than the highest rank is

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:01 PM

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You can queue exit as a team if you realize you're at r20 with 3 tin players

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:01 PM

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and if you're talking about manually selecting it, then whats the issue lol

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:01 PM

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I'm saying there's actually no incentive to do that

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:02 PM

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do you really think a playerbase of 200 people should split 20 ranks by 20 tiers

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you guess how long queues would be

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theres no alternative

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and its a non issue anyway overall

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:03 PM

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If you say so. I generally leave games where it takes 10 minutes to find 1 team and most teams break up

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:03 PM

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yeh, it takes that long while being matchmade from all tiers

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imagine you split the ranks even more

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:03 PM

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"giving increasingly diminishing returns with rank difference seems like a better strategy than outright punishing somebody with higher rank for participating."
From my first post

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:04 PM

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thats also terrible

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and the people with higher ranked arent punished idk why you keep viewing it that way lol

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:04 PM

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Not suggesting splitting playerbase. Suggesting giving SOME reward instead of actually nothing.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:04 PM

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having a lower ranked person isnt a punishment

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its barely a negative

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ive played r20 runs manyyyy times with literally under level 10 or 15

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people

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some wins some losses sure

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but nothing drastically different than normal

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they'll make some mistakes and have a learning curve, but the game isnt that wildy different as the ranks go up, just more modifiers etc

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im just saying if there is a "punshiment" its for sure on the low ranks lol. for having to play higher ranks

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not vice versa

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:06 PM

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Half of the vestiges are locked until you grind. They actually have worse chance to carry their own weight.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:06 PM

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they can use any and all vestiges you'd come across

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:06 PM

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It goes both ways

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:06 PM

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for them that they dont have

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but regardless thats also never been an issue

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i think you're imagining a problem that doesnt exist because in your head it does, and you personally had a bad couple experiences

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you dont like the concept of how it is, sure, but it literally is a non issue

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or more people would complain

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or anyone else

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for that matter

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:07 PM

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Okay. I'll leave it as is.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:07 PM

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as i said i have seen literally not one "high" rank player

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say its a detriment to them

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is this an issue for you personally anyway? or is it on behalf

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of your friends

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etc

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that are jsut starting

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:08 PM

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It's an issue that I personally had after coming back until getting some ranks

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:08 PM

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so you got to rank 10, and then rank 20 players just started accepting you as a teammate?

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cuz rank 10 is as low as a rank 0 run

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practically

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as far as experience goes

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Level 10, rank 10. People were actually leaving.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:09 PM

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i mean, did they literally state thats why they left

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cuz people randomly leave after queues

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even in dailies/unranked

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ranked

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doesnt matter

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ive had many people just insta leave after accepting for w/e reason, or they disconnect

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:10 PM

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Yes. It's just a coincencedence that it went from almost all high ranks leaving to nobody

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:10 PM

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and im r20

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right but those same players that were leaving, are still the high ranked players yes?

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that arent leaving now

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:11 PM

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I didn't keep track of names

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:11 PM

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i mean regardless of all this, its splitting hairs on an "issue" that point blank, doesnt really have an alternative. IMO it doesnt need one, but since you think it does

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im just saying not many options

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for a tiny playerbase

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the option to queue solo is there

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for people that want to push rank up

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:12 PM

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Reward ANY co-operation. THat's the option

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:12 PM

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i mean..the ranking up part is the reward no?

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and if you're already r20

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you're playing for fun

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plus theres 2 seperate ranks for a reason, if you play and queue for group ranks to get that up, you just have to know its from rank 0-20

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a win gets you +1 rank

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no matter what rank it was

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:13 PM

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Yeah, I'm not gonna guess why players are playing. Tbh. I don't care at this point. Done with the game and with how long it took to get matches now I doubt I'm coming back

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:13 PM

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you not enjoy anything solo i take it?

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if its about ranked

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:14 PM

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I'm enjoying completing challenges and while various builds were viable I was enjoying experimenting

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:14 PM

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if your issue is with the difficulty curve and player ranks etc, you can play normals. If you're wanting that challenge and rank grind, well, its there

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:14 PM

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in-run progression now kinda restricted the latter

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:14 PM

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well you dont have to rank for those

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they legit added the casual run option on 1.0

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for those reasons

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overall it just sounds like the best case scenario for you, is playing with a premade group. maybe your friends you were saying

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and push group ranked together

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or just having fun on normals

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together

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:16 PM

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Yeah, matchmaking is a moot point if you're playing with premade

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:16 PM

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exactly

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if your issue lies in the matchmaking system, just premade

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:17 PM

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I.e. playing with friends is completely irrelevant to this suggestion

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Anyways, It doesn't seem to be a popular issue and the only person replying think it's a non issue, so I'll just delete the suggestion.
Again, it's a problem for those who are staying with the game

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:18 PM

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i mean its your take on the system, it is what it is. I disagree and dont know anyone who does agree, but that doesnt mean you cant complain

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about it

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i just noticed the post was hella old with no replies

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so chimed in

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:20 PM

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Yeah. Devs don't seem to be too active either, which I didn't realize at the time of posting.

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:20 PM

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tbh i dont even know the last time

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i saw devs

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in here

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even aside from your complaint btw, its also more of a moot point to kind of complain or suggest anything it seems lol

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cuz they dont do the playerfeedback thing

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well

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:21 PM

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They did. Didn't realize the entire community wilted so much over the year

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:21 PM

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well ya they were trying to get it up and running during beta

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and actively developing

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playerbase shot up there for a minute last month

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got excited but

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it fell down a bit

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idk if its a small team they have for this game specifically, or just shinyshoe in general but

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they're sitting on a ton of potential with inkbound

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its already really good (to me)

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but could have a massive player reach with some attention

vagrant quest Jul 31, 2024, 1:23 PM

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Yeah. Hands down the best co-op in turn based genre I've seen

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Sadly the balance chances diminished how useful one can be to a team

acoustic raven Jul 31, 2024, 1:24 PM

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yeh literally one of the best co op turn based

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imo

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caught me by surprise

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and got hooked

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i have my fingers crossed that they plan on adding a couple more aspects

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