TEAMS: Improved!

[exotic forge]

First suggestion: Lives are shared instead of individual. Teams receive (x * t) - t lives (x = number of lives, t = number of players on your team, -t for the game to begin with 0 reserved lives if lives are set to 1). If you die, 1 life is removed from your team's counter. Once there are no reserved lives left, your team will no longer be able to respawn on death. Pros, everyone, including the worst players, get to play the game until there are no reserved lives left on their team, making the experience better for them and preventing them from no longer playing the game because they found it too hard/punishing. Good players will have an harder and more challenging time, giving everyone a better and more hardcore-like experience. Cons, trollers can troll the game by dying many times and removing all lives from their team. Some good players may find it fustrating to go down with their team.

Second suggestion: Remove team collision. The amount of times I've killed or got killed by my own teammates is insane. This would lead to teammates just helping each other by giving power-ups and attacking enemies instead of bothering each other. Pros, infinite. Cons, none.

[inner meadow]

im sorry but removing team collisions just makes no sense,,,

to remove 90% of what makes teams silly and fun just because teammates can kill you by accident (which is still funny btw :3) just because you cant play around your team would be unwise,,,

[sweet dock]

nobody would like to play with teams if lives are shared
spawn kills are also a thing

[ornate escarp]

maybe there could just be toggle for player projectiles (fireball, iceball, hammer) to not hit their teammates

[exotic forge]

Not remove entirely I guess, just make it like New Super Mario Bros games when you're playing coop with friends I guess. It's just that when there are too many players playing, the chaos is way too much for any player to handle :/

[exotic forge]

For advanced players, I guess thats true? I dont know about less experienced players or players looking for a challenge tho. Players who are AFK would be a problem, yes, so I guess a Smash Bros type of system would be better where you'd still have individual lives, and if a teammate dies, they'll have to press a button to steal a life from the teammate that has the most amount of lives. Since they'd have to press the button, afk players will stay dead

[ornate escarp]

trolls could just eat lives

[exotic forge]

True, I cant think of a solution for that 😭

[ornate escarp]

idk i think lives are fine as is that's not the problem

i think there just needs to be less ways to accidentally hit your teammate

but i get why friendly fire is a thing

[exotic forge]

I just suggested it because I dont like when new players lose all their lives in the first minute and then rage quit LOL

[sweet dock]

well... thats the main problem of your idea
you didnt think on casuals/less experienced players
you always have to think on both sides, not in a single side

[ornate escarp]

since yknow two samus people with projectiles could just make a wall that's really hard to get through

[ornate escarp]

that's public lobbies for ya
they suck most of the time!

[mystic gorge]

doesn't smash also require the alive player to also press a button?
that sounds fine to me, after all lives with teams is not great

[exotic forge]

I'd personally give all my lives to charity

[inner meadow]

the thing is in smash youre usually next to the person youre teaming with so you can ask to take a stock :'3

[exotic forge]

thats literally what he said. Both players would have to press a specific button for it to work

I guess the dead player would have to ask first, but the problem is what if there are multiple people asking?

I guess just give from who asked first to who asked last?

but then you have the troller asking first...

alright, I got it. 2 people die and they both ask, the person who died last has bigger priority than the person who died first