🏗️ MvLO Maker

[fervent pilot]

yeah

though the pillars being disconnected feels so fucking annoying

[nocturne lantern]

https://github.com/xtpor/godot-msgpack/issues/3

this is hilarious

anyway, column of tiles disappearing has now been fixed. thx for the report

[fervent pilot]

progress so far

[fervent pilot]

isnt it just me or am i using the wrong version?

[knotty pewter]

it's just that you joined mid-game

[oak nest]

Bug reports|| @nocturne lantern ||:

• bob bomb hit from below don't light up

• bob bomb dies before exploding when in a 1 block gap

• no music when spectating (fortress theme)

• background spikes are rendered above

• bob bombs don't break everything around them (in a 1 block gap they happen to only break the left or right side)

• bob bombs give a coin when they explode

• shells spam sounds when taken while partially in a wall

• When spectating broken bricks particle don't appear

[oak nest]

Very nice. Good job!

[woven fiber]

this is already a vanilla thing btw

[oak nest]

it happens way too much in this mod for some reason

And last bug, not sure if it's intended:

• You can put blocks outside of the grid (you can for exemple put some past the horizontal limit, and it will create weird bugged blocks at the loop

[nocturne lantern]

are level IDs necessary in here? for easy searching of levels?
i mean, you can search them by name but there might be duplicates
thus, if someone says "hey let's play my level its ID is WOW-IEZ-OWIE" then it's easy to pinpoint it
or maybe it's not worth it because you can just search for the User...

hm...

[gentle palm]

found out that stuff where the level loops doesnt work properly. grounds become slippery like ice and they buffer jump command for some reason. also, you cant walljump on blocks laterally.

[gentle palm]

i think ids are not necessary. if searching for a level gives different results (most similar on top) then one can simply scroll down a bit. also allowing to search by user, and then searching a map by a certain user will work

[knotty pewter]

It's a vanilla thing too, just don't place blocks that you can walljump on the border. First thing is because your tiles/items are outside of the grid

[oak nest]

Nahhh not necessary
I believe the reason they had ids in mario maker is because they knew there would be really a lot of levels

[faint gate]

i love mario vs makro

[delicate wigeon]

How to fix the problem in the new version? My friend has the same issue

[raw bone]

go to the link mentioned in that message, should be updated.

[nocturne lantern]

Yup, exactly

[raw bone]

ig everyone with that bug need(s) to redownload that everytime (until that gets fixed of course)

[nocturne lantern]

Yea...

Just buy a newer computer 😈😈😈

[raw bone]

erm, i use a laptop (laptop gaming)

and like, i do not REALLY want to... uhhh

[delicate wigeon]

Don't I need the latest editor?

[nocturne lantern]

That's the latest version

[delicate wigeon]

Og

ok

[nocturne lantern]

I updated the file while keeping the same link

[delicate wigeon]

My friend found this typo

[violet mist]

Cance

vic pleaae keep

[fervent pilot]

cance

[violet mist]

Cance

[nocturne lantern]

Instal

[gentle palm]

I see. Now i gotta manually move hundreds of blocks, rip

There's nothing to move multiple blocks at the same time, right?

[torpid zephyr]

you can hold left click and drag over all the blocks

and move them

i think

[gentle palm]

Oh wow, i didn't know

I knew i could drag with the eraser but

[nocturne lantern]

n-no, that's not yet a thing in the current public version
doing that will draw a rectangle which will either fill it in with blocks or erase everything, depending on the current tool

[gentle palm]

I see

[torpid zephyr]

can’t you do the grab thing tho

[nocturne lantern]

the grab tool is only for items (enemies, stars, ...)

[torpid zephyr]

or is that only for objects

i see then

[gentle palm]

It only grabs enemies and pipes i think

[torpid zephyr]

i’m actually gonna murder autocorrect

[nocturne lantern]

we love autoconcert

[gentle palm]

I deactivated it long ago

[torpid zephyr]

i would but like it’s useful sometimes

[nocturne lantern]

but yeah anyway unfortunately convenient features like bulk move, copy/paste, and undo are missing. something i reserved for future beta versions

because big work is needed

[gentle palm]

I have the bar with 3 suggested words on top of my keyboard, i use that instead

[nocturne lantern]

i can't type on phones, like at all. not a single word goes without a typo so I must have it on to have it correct my mistakes

[gentle palm]

I understand, ill move it manually for now

Keys on phone are also small, you either need a lot of accuracy or to slow down

[nocturne lantern]

i think i should also pout a warning if the first column has blocks in, to explain the limitation

[nocturne lantern]

it's the lack of tactile feedback for me

like, idk where the keys are because everything is flat

[gentle palm]

Also about the ground behaving like ice

[nocturne lantern]

i've gotten used to swipe typing though and it's a much better experience for me...

[nocturne lantern]

yea

[gentle palm]

Its true, but i usually look at both the keyboard and the text so i see a mistake immediately

[nocturne lantern]

i'll eventually add a "verify level" feature that'll be like Warnings when coding
something like "hey this enemy is inside a wall" or "watch out, the level borders have terrain that'll become passthrough in-game"

[gentle palm]

Makes sense

Also another thing i noticed is that if you put an enemy like a koopa in a 1 block space below a semisolid it spawns above instead

[nocturne lantern]

it might be being pushed upwards by the platform's ground

[rotund grove]

and me who thought it was a clever design...

[faint gate]

mountain madness war memories

[honest ferry]

the bricks do look problematic

but i actually like that design

i like how the map looks

it's pretty darn satisfying...

[rotund grove]

thx

also

its the first part of the map

(the map is seperated in multiple themes)

here's what I did

[faint gate]

i think

you should remove these bricks

what would happen if theres no bombs

[shy belfry]

old volcano be like

[torpid zephyr]

exactly

[rotund grove]

wait was it?

[shy belfry]

youd need either infinite bombs or infinite blue shells for this to not softlock

[rotund grove]

I haven't played old volcano tho

[rotund grove]

riiiightt

@_vic can you add pipe generators to the game?

[shy belfry]

softlock checks ;)

[shy belfry]

the idea is that its only vanilla features rn

[rotund grove]

wait is there already a pipe generator system in 1.8?

[shy belfry]

no

[rotund grove]

a-

[shy belfry]

thats what i mean lol

[rotund grove]

ohh

[shy belfry]

the editor only supports vanilla features right now

[rotund grove]

got it

[rotund grove]

yes

[shy belfry]

the editor

[rotund grove]

ohhhhh

yes

[shy belfry]

there still are matchimator things as well

[rotund grove]

yeah I know

I think vcmi and mvlomaker share the same 'overall' engine

(light rendering, 🇪 mojis, etc)

[honest ferry]

matchinator, ipod, matchinator...

[rotund grove]

I knew that mistake

I just didn't dare to point it out

yk when you talk to a famous game developer its like you talk to a god

[honest ferry]

bah, ipod is just a normal human being

[shy belfry]

[honest ferry]

...with the power to blast you out of the server

[rotund grove]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-spongebob-bomb-explode-gif-12572892652637881786

in early 2023

[nocturne lantern]

Also those red blocks aren't semisolids

They're fully solid half blocks (for minis)

Though nice decoration

[rotund grove]

oh

well

I'm dumb

[violet mist]

oh yea wega you should play mvlo maker its like pretty cool go check it out

[nocturne lantern]

It's a mod with both zero maps and a lot of maps

[honest ferry]

the most empty mod of all time

[glacial olive]

it's simultaneously the most empty and most full mod of all time

[honest ferry]

or it's gonna be once it releases

id assume it will get over kkt's map count by then

[rotund grove]

Its the moddiest mod of all mods

[honest ferry]

stupid 74 maps... tsk tsk tsk...

[glacial olive]

it has simultaneously both released already and not released yet at the same time

[nocturne lantern]

It has about uhh sixty something levels rn

[nocturne lantern]

Finally
Schrödinger's mod

[honest ferry]

what's next

[nocturne lantern]

(not guaranteed for all of them to be good...)

[honest ferry]

the golden ratio mod

[rotund grove]

I told you not to repeat tsk
soon 75

[honest ferry]

kkt-

[rotund grove]

Can't wait for the mod to blow up and see the recent tab

[nocturne lantern]

At least you can dislike the bad ones to the bottom

[honest ferry]

vanished for eternity

[nocturne lantern]

Just like the detergent

[grim marten]

Hi Vic

[nocturne lantern]

He'll lust

[rotund grove]

hi lust

[low parrot]

im confused....
why am being invisible????

[rotund grove]

abracadabra
god told you goobye!

/j

could be you not setting a proper start position

[low parrot]

i did

[rotund grove]

if you're sure your start pos isn't messed up, it's a problem

[rotund grove]

try putting it anywhere else see if it works

[rotund grove]

if it does work, something might be wrong with this position, if not, call vic idk

[low parrot]

it doesnt work

[rotund grove]

Btw

have you tried moving around while ""invisible""

if the camera follows you, it means that everything works, but your model didn't load successfully

if it doesn't, your internet might suck

[rotund grove]

so, can you move or not?

[low parrot]

bruh im still invinsible 🤦‍♂️

[violet mist]

love how no one (except vic) questioned me talking to someone that isnt even in the server

[rotund grove]

but

are you invisible

or not in-game

cuz there's a difference

[rotund grove]

also wut

[violet mist]

reply didnt reply

[rotund grove]

as I said:

[violet mist]

did everyone just miss it completely lmao

[smoky raptor]

Odd
@nocturne lantern Any Idea Why This Is happening
Also Are You Invisible And Can Still move or not move

[rotund grove]

could be the model not loading

alright so your model doesn't load

[low parrot]

but the problem is im invinsible :....
but yeah i can move

[rotund grove]

did you try playing as luigi?

[low parrot]

yes

same thing

[rotund grove]

well

might be unity completely failing to load the player model

it often happens for the big models

but I've never seen a case like that

one last option: call @nocturne lantern

@nocturne lantern?

@nocturne lantern !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[low parrot]

i guess i can just wait...

[honest ferry]

you're actually getting annoying

kiddo calm down

[low parrot]

😂

[rotund grove]

didn't you said you weren't comming back till the next 4 hours???

[violet mist]

no really it does get annoying im ngl

[oak nest]

did you try to just close the game and open it again?

[rotund grove]

also, vic is online now

[violet mist]

yea you mass pinged him

[low parrot]

forgot about that

[rotund grove]

I can't wait for him to kill me!!! :333

[low parrot]

lemme try it

[gentle palm]

when i use the editor and save sometimes the level gets erased and i have to load it again, odd

[rotund grove]

sometimes you say?

could be a simple inconsistancy

try saving twice when saving a level so it reduces the chances to loose data incase one of them fails

[violet mist]

i feel like yall dont realize this is a prerelease and there are still bugs to fix rather than get around

[rotund grove]

we don't

when its non-public yet we feel like its never going to release and when it gets a public beta people are just going to point things out like: "Heyy- your game is badd- unpolished >:[[[[ Alot of buuggggsss- >:{{{{{"

[gentle palm]

this is what i did after my level got deleted once, now i always make 2 or 3 saves

[low parrot]

ohh it worked now!!!!!!!!

[rotund grove]

graet

[grim marten]

joseph bennett

[rotund grove]

so we just pinged vic for nothing now

[gentle palm]

also closing the editor and reopening it has a chance to fix it

[violet mist]

this is why playtesting is the best option honestly

[rotund grove]

or alternatevly

just remind the user every 3 second with a very annoying popup:

[violet mist]

doesnt work will get people more annoying

[rotund grove]

YOU ARE FUCKING PLAYTESTING A BETA VERSION THAT CONTAINS BUGS, STOP BLAMMING ME FOR BEING BAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

sounds reasonable

[violet mist]

results will have
bullying chances increased to %15

[rotund grove]

I mean, he litterally made a spongebob popup placeholder

[honest ferry]

bullying?

who we bullying today bois

[grim marten]

me

[violet mist]

me

[rotund grove]

me! me! me!

[grim marten]

I was first

[violet mist]

fucking kill me

[honest ferry]

nah

[violet mist]

rahh

[honest ferry]

pleading for death is for the weak

[honest ferry]

but you, no fuck you you're dying first

[violet mist]

socool

[rotund grove]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

wait you seriou-

[violet mist]

byebye

[rotund grove]

didn't even got bulled?

[violet mist]

nah straight to public execution

[rotund grove]

oki bye
don't forget to invite me when you can!

[grim marten]

I've been there last week

[rotund grove]

do you know any accessible ones?

[nocturne lantern]

I think you're like one of the few people that understand that

[nocturne lantern]

Have you read the BIG BOLD TITLE when opening the editor? It literally says that, along with frequently asked questions underneath

[nocturne lantern]

Anyway I've been thinking about candidates for new themes...
Dark world (world 8), beach, ghost house, sewers... What else...

[torpid zephyr]

mountain

that orange sky level with the moving platforms

um

idk

[oak nest]

Airship?

[nocturne lantern]

Sure

Though nsmb got no airship tilemaps so not really

[violet mist]

true lmao

[oak nest]

I know, but hey it's just an idea

[smoky raptor]

Am I One Of Those People-🪿

[oak nest]

We are currently trying a kaizo map, but all of us are just suddenly limited to 40~ fps for some reason
Can it be because spikes are unoptimized or something?
Player1 then removed part of the map and we gained 20 fps
@nocturne lantern

[nocturne lantern]

ye, known bug with spikes. sorry about that

[oak nest]

Oh okay then

Also sometimes the background is glitching

[rotund grove]

quarter related but

This yo brotha?!

[fervent pilot]

holy

@nocturne lantern is this true

[nocturne lantern]

Fake fan... They don't know I'd never spell my name with a capitalized 'v'...

[rotund grove]

Tru true

[fervent pilot]

damn

[nocturne lantern]

Researching good ways to sort levels by Trending instead of just recent... You might see the level browsing list shift a bit in the following days

But I think it's necessary

[oak nest]

It would be nice if blocks that are at the ceiling extend upwards infinitely, stars often get stuck

[smoky raptor]

This Would Be Epic For Death Pits
Anyways A Workaround Rn Is making The Stage Taller Temporary And Then Setting it Back After placing the Tiles up There 🔥

[oak nest]

oh really

[knotty pewter]

Yes I do that

[oak nest]

you're kinda dead though if your level is already tall

[smoky raptor]

just make it even taller temporary and place the Tiles then set it back
The only Real Problem is if Yur Level is Already The max Height (Or Close) 😔

so ye
Valid Suggestion

[nocturne lantern]

will add it as a toggle, yes

for floors too

[smoky raptor]

on by default :simple_glare:

[shy belfry]

1.8 feature

[brisk crescent]

Me when the passthrough is invalid

[nocturne lantern]

wait, fr fr ong?

[brisk crescent]

Not that it goes upwards infinitely but more of something automatic ceiling i think

"Why is my game lagging"

[shy belfry]

yeah

optionally extending the hitboxes of ceiling tiles upwards

[nocturne lantern]

that's super convenient and exactly what i needed, saves time from having to implement it myself in the Editor

[brisk crescent]

Meanwhile me deadass

[nocturne lantern]

that's extremely overdone dude

[brisk crescent]

old screenshot grrr

[smoky raptor]

oops

Now there is TWO

🔥

[delicate wigeon]

Could you please add a feature to disable invincibility frames for the player because you can cheese levels with spikes using it. Alternative fix would be to kill the player even if he has invincibility frames or a star

[oak nest]

Vic said he would combine vic's mod and mvlo maker I believe

(You can disable I-frames in vic's mod)

[delicate wigeon]

Oh, ok

[knotty pewter]

To be fair I was in vc with Snayp the other day, and he was soooo gutted to realise that you published a blue pipes level, knowing he was making one TOO at the same time

[smoky raptor]

Didn't Know They Were Gonna Make A Blue Pipes 🤷‍♂️

[rotund grove]

Pipes were cool but how about...

BLUE PIPES?!

[oak nest]

It's okay
Smart people get the same ideas don't they? Lol

[knotty pewter]

vic when will you add the "disable customs" option? Also some maps aren't adapted at all to the mega mushrooms, yet you can still get it. Will there ever be a "disable said powerup" option available?

[rotund grove]

Just realized, vic stole my idea of a level editor
how shameless

[nocturne lantern]

That's literally a suggestion

Argument invalidated!

[fervent pilot]

hmmmm

are you sure?

[rotund grove]

I bringed my lawyer

now we'll have some talking

[fervent pilot]

brought*

[rotund grove]

fu-

[honest ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-5740684570554038053

[finite sandal]

nuh uh

[nocturne lantern]

it's not possible to port this mod to android, so I won't be supporting it anytime soon

[compact vapor]

Is every level creator called Unknown in this mod

Even my own levels AFTER logging in suggest so

[nocturne lantern]

"Unknown" only appears in the Player when playtesting a non-uploaded (local) level

[torpid zephyr]

mr matchinator what happened here

[nocturne lantern]

also thegaming100 you don't need to upload like 4 copies of your level, you can test a wip before doing so once definitively

[nocturne lantern]

don't look at me... that's how it looks in the nsmb ds

[torpid zephyr]

wtf ew it does

why would they do this

[nocturne lantern]

your guess is as good as mine

[woven fiber]

its not that deep 🏚️

but still questionable

[lament abyss]

so retro

[knotty pewter]

(For theGaming100) To delete a level you uploaded, you go on the browser part, find your level and there should be a delete button

[nocturne lantern]

It's fine, I'll remove them myself :/

[wanton fossil]

wait where is the download link?

[fervent pilot]

pins

[wanton fossil]

thx

umm idk if this only happening to me but whatever i try to press the load or build button it just crashes

not the game the program

this just keep showing me a black screen and close it his own

[nocturne lantern]

Looks like a common graphics driver incompatibility, pls try this solution:
#1289009524979535882 message

[wanton fossil]

ok works now

thx

[upbeat heart]

that's the type of tomfoolery I get up to.

[delicate wigeon]

Definitely not off topic

Definitely not supposed to be in memes-n-shitposting

[steep shoal]

beat*

[fervent pilot]

why ping him?

playtest it

[low parrot]

vic doesnt want to playtest this

[fervent pilot]

what about me?

[low parrot]

checkpoints*

[fervent pilot]

just host a room and playtest

oh shoot there arent any checkpoints in this mod

[woven fiber]

bro he never said he will nor that he wont 😭🙏

[brisk crescent]

checkpoints doesnt exist

[fervent pilot]

please host the lobby

for fuck sake

[low parrot]

i know!!!!!!!!!

[low parrot]

im bad at predicting 😵‍💫

[fervent pilot]

also uh

lacks beauty

done

[oak nest]

I wouldn't say it's as hard though, but it looks like a good kaizo map!

[fervent pilot]

cool

[oak nest]

are you trying to make the difficulty consistent or? Because the second half of the blue part looks really difficult compared to the rest ngl

[nocturne lantern]

hm....

thnking

[honest ferry]

waluigi playing monopoly having only levels made by him in mvlo maker

[nocturne lantern]

those white icons on the left of each level's title is supposed to be a preview of the theme of the stage

like a kind of thing

[honest ferry]

interesting

[oak nest]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to have some tags to filter the levels? (Versus, Level, Parkour) (Amount of players recommended)

[oak nest]

By the way it looks amazing

[nocturne lantern]

Well, you'll be able to search by Title and Description, so I think it's enough if the creator puts the tags there

[oak nest]

By the description too? Well then

[knotty pewter]

Will we ever have longer name for levels? Because with a tag, you can barely put 2 medium sized words in the title

2 long words and you're doomed

[rotund grove]

oversized paroles

Goofy now will be charged to work as a WW3 solider

[oak nest]

too long, you're doomed

[rotund grove]

depressing, isn't-it-it?

[wanton fossil]

i have a suggestion is it possible to add way to put other powerups in ? blocks (like blue shells, ice flower, etc)
ik the ? red blocks exists but those are just roulette blocks

[knotty pewter]

Yeah like Mario Maker specific powerups in [?] blocks

[wanton fossil]

yes

[oak nest]

I like this

I think I mentionned it somewhere but yes it would be neat

[nocturne lantern]

I won't have access to my main pc during the next few days so don't be surprised if there are no news during this time

I'm only gon have my laptop around which means I'll be limited to small server maintenance but ya

Be rest assured though, the stable version is getting nearer and nearer

[raw bone]

what do you guys think of this kinda lavafrost astetic?

[knotty pewter]

The stone tile will look bad once playing the level

Because the ice blocks overlaps it, the stone goes in weird shapes

happens with the autotiles and ice autotiles

On paper it looks nice, but outside the editor it will probably be different. Could be wrong but I had this happening with the ice tiles

[oak nest]

you'd need a gradient

inbetween the ice tiles and volcano tiles

the idea is good

[rotund grove]

I think its better if the volcano tiles are in the BG layer
cuz then the tiles are gonna mess up and go kaboum D:

[woven fiber]

i might be wrong but i think the small ice block tile actually doesnt overlap the main ground

but im not sure

[scenic pagoda]

Hello, I'm finishing up a sequel for the castle level. Thank you for making this level creator!

Any way I can donate to this project? Been waiting for this for at least 15 years, feels criminal to play for free

[smoky raptor]

👽...

[faint gate]

vic would go to the prison if he let ppl to donate

[woven fiber]

loophole

but likely case scenario he wouldnt

[nocturne lantern]

aw, I'm happy you find it useful even in its prototype stage and i'm already looking fwd to releasing better updates. but yeah I'm afraid i got no patreon or kofi or any sort of donation protal open, so keep your cash lol

i don't think i do anything out there enough to warrant opening an account on there

but one day if i get good enough at 3d arting i could open commissions lol ok that's definitely off topic though

[nocturne lantern]

Nah, they aren't a thing in mvl

[nocturne lantern]

[On Break 🛌] MvLO Maker

Holiday season,, will come back in 2025 better and stronger

[raw bone]

cant wait!!!

actually i can

but i CANT!!!

[golden eagle]

okey dokey Vic 👍

[brisk crescent]

zzz

zzzz

[golden eagle]

WAKE UP

[raw bone]

mybe its nighttime where windows lives...

so hes sleeping

makes sense to me 👍

[nocturne lantern]

So true! And we're all part of his dream!

Let's turn this into a nightmare!

[grim marten]

Hi Vic

[nocturne lantern]

Hello lust

[grim marten]

Stronger Smarter Better?

👽

[nocturne lantern]

Simply Quickly Efficiently

[brisk crescent]

vic hit the gym

[grim marten]

All three words you can describe what I'm gonna do to this when I destroy it.

[woven fiber]

it feels so cursed seeing a mod post with emojis
or hell a discord forum post with emojis in general

[nocturne lantern]

Oh goodness

It does attract one's attention though ngl

[woven fiber]

true!

new tech dropped

[honest ferry]

suing vic for monopoly

[nocturne lantern]

I love that game

[smoky raptor]

Good idea.................

[low parrot]

enemies map

[nocturne lantern]

Holy artwork

[low parrot]

thats for 2nd anniversary of vic custom match mod
its uploaded btw

[low parrot]

weird

[nocturne lantern]

Small mushroom semisolid platforms are not implemented yet, so they'll appear like that until I do something about it

[nocturne lantern]

a preview of how permissive the SEARCH LEVELS functionality will be

sorry for the ui-less showcase but yea

[low parrot]

???

[woven fiber]

ye mario bros platforms r hella brokn lmao

first it was them causing the players to get kicked, now its their positions 🥴

[violet mist]

dw mario bros platforms are broken as shit in unity too

[nocturne lantern]

It's fine I alr saw where the bug is

get 🤕🔨ed, me

[low parrot]

wait is there slope in this game
if not, then i will have to suggest that

[woven fiber]

nop

[nocturne lantern]

Slopes will come another time. There are more important things to add first

[violet mist]

slopes will be added in mvlo maker 2

[fervent pilot]

indeed

[cobalt geyser]

LMAOO

[solid lichen]

toad will be added in mvlo maker 3d

[low parrot]

found another bug

[knotty pewter]

To add on this, the ice blocks and yellowish blocks do the same, it's very easy to trap a shell in them

[brisk crescent]

Has the builder thing been fixed or no?

I have to manually download and replace the maker app

[nocturne lantern]

What thing? There are a lot of things that need fixing

[nocturne lantern]

Oh you mean the crashing on startup? No, not fixed yet

Download the updated version of the mod and then redownload the editor too, just like you did on day 1

[brisk crescent]

alr

[nocturne lantern]

Sorrgy
it'll be more seamless once I get it on the mod loader and on itch or whatev

[brisk crescent]

I forgot my password 🪦

[nocturne lantern]

How

You're the 2nd person yet
What kinds of passwords you ppl using skull

Sorry I can't help w that

[woven fiber]

literally bro

just use something easy for you to remember and hard for everyone else to guess ✨

or write it down somewhere skjdkfjksj

[shy belfry]

just store in plaintext

[nocturne lantern]

Kill

Server's down for a few minutes. Doing some changes
Edit: it's back I think

[shy belfry]

converting passwords to plaintext...

gotta break the hashes first

[nocturne lantern]

Almost there...

[nocturne lantern]

God damnit, sqlalchemy and python, why must you be so obtuse

I should've made the server in c# or java
But I was alr paying for a python host so...

[nocturne lantern]

K stuff's up and running again

[smoky raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1216761680411754528/1249004892027359395/luigi-dancing_1.gif

[knotty pewter]

xD I forgot mine too

[nocturne lantern]

☹️

Well it's not like user accounts are that valuable anyway at the moment
You can just create another one and keep uploading stuff

[rotund grove]

Bowser has seen better days

[low parrot]

Bruh that was 3 days ago

But ok

[rotund grove]

sry

I just didn't had internet

Just tryna catch up on what I missed

btw who is reacting "👽"?

👽

[rotund grove]

its you @smoky raptor

wait @devout elm too

why so many ppl reacting my messagus

[rotund grove]

wat is dis gibberish

[low parrot]

Holy shit, there's so many reactions 😭

[rotund grove]

wait fu

😭

[rotund grove]

man even ipod's announcements didn't had that many reacts

well now we have a powerup frenzy...

[smoky raptor]

well now we have a powerup frosty || @woven fiber ||...

[nocturne lantern]

well now we have a message spam @topaz summit

[woven fiber]

woag vlco_o bot,,,

[topaz summit]

I'm a human person, FrostyCake.

[smoky raptor]

Fossy Stop Thinking He's A Lil Puppy 🥺

[woven fiber]

ermemr ok hi atesting 👋

[scenic pagoda]

Small 1v1 level I'm working on any thoughts?

[woven fiber]

i think u should remove the 2 middle semisolids of the top semisolid platform, and maybe add more ways of reaching the top right platform

[oak nest]

a bit too squary to my taste
You don't wanna make stuff come out from the ceiling also?
Otherwise it's great, I like the small room with the bob bomb

[scenic pagoda]

What do you mean make stuff come out of the ceiling?

[scenic pagoda]

In playtesting it';s pretty easy to get there jumping off the pipe on the left side, but I will test removing those platforms too.

I definitely want to add a pit somewhere and some more breakable blocks

[oak nest]

For exemple an upside down pipe that stick out from the ceiling

it's just an idea

also you can maybe add one hole or 2 but it's your choice

[scenic pagoda]

Definitely will look into that because there are some empty areas that need filling

I like small maps, the bricks level by far is the most fun imo on DS, but ive tried to make similar levels and I just cant match it

[nocturne lantern]

Tmr I return home... time to get back to work at last... So much to do

Will keep posting showcases and whatnot

[nocturne lantern]

Ideas for an "Export level" feature, apart from the default Save to .vsm:

• export to image (1:1 pixel ratio, just a png of the entire stage)
• json of all tiles and items for use in other custom programs
• unity package catered to importing in mods based on vanilla mvlo (depending on how possible it is)
• ???

[woven fiber]

i think the first 2 are fine, the 3rd one could just be if u dont really have anything to do

its not so hard to eyeball the level from the maker into unity, or hell you could even use the exported image and put it in unity to then tile over it, like how some of us do with NSMBe

[nocturne lantern]

dunno if anyone has noticed a bug that appeared about a week ago where if you uploaded a level, it'd take a few minutes for it to appear in the browser. sorry for the inconvenience, this has now been fixed

[shy belfry]

unbelievable... banned for incompetence

[solid lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

[nocturne lantern]

i was experimenting with caching and cached all over the place sorry... 😔

[knotty pewter]

I still haven't found my password, so I didn't upload that many levels during that time

[nocturne lantern]

It's ok, you can create a new account lol

[knotty pewter]

Will I be able to choose the same username?

[nocturne lantern]

Mmmh, I'm afraid not

[knotty pewter]

Don't you have a way to delete that account? I'll just create another one above it with that same username

I'll make more attempts at passwords tomorrow, I know I put something silly... but it wasn't too silly

[nocturne lantern]

I can, but levels are tied to users and so your uploads would get deleted too

I guess I can overwrite the account's name to some gibberish instead so you can reuse the name

[knotty pewter]

You can name it 6alexis8, and I'll choose 6Alexis8... or put 6Alexis8old idk 😂

I could just reupload everything too

[nocturne lantern]

Ok, @knotty pewter I have deactivated your old account but kept the levels. You can go ahead and make a new one with the same name you've been using

[low parrot]

im having a problem too
im trying to log in with my previous account, but unfortunately its taken.....

[oak nest]

This time note your password alexis lol

[nocturne lantern]

You're trying to create a new account. You just need to log in

Notice how the Sign Up button is toggled on. It should be disabled to sign into an existing acc

[knotty pewter]

heck you

[knotty pewter]

thank you so much, won't happen again

You're the goat 🐐

[nocturne lantern]

Np! Here to help

[shy belfry]

https://www.evanmiller.org/how-not-to-sort-by-average-rating.html

found this

"looks complicated"

///<summary>
///Returns a rating for the given post.  Larger is better.
///Based on the equation found at http://www.evanmiller.org/how-not-to-sort-by-average-rating.html
///</summary>
public double GetPostRating(int numPositiveVotes, int numNegativeVotes)
{
    int totalVotes = numPositiveVotes + numNegativeVotes;
    if(totalVotes == 0)
        return 0;

    const double z = 1.96; //Constant used for 95% confidence interval in a p-distribution
    double positiveRatio = ((double)numPositiveVotes)/totalVotes;

    //Crazy equation to find the "Lower bound of Wilson score confidence interval for a Bernoulli parameter"
    //Again, see the above webpage
    return (positiveRatio + z*z/(2*totalVotes) - z * Math.sqrt((positiveRatio*(1-positiveRatio)+z*z/(4*totalVotes))/totalVotes))/(1+z*z/totalVotes);
}

[nocturne lantern]

Wow, I love putting my stats in an equation so long that it feels like a black box algorithm*!*

Although I think I have heard about the Wilson score method and was considering using it

[shy belfry]

fair enough haha

i cant really wrap my head around it

[shy belfry]

well you wanted a "trending" sort as well, yea?

so maybe you can use wilson score and modify it to give a score boost to more recently uploaded/updated courses (like reddit)

[nocturne lantern]

Yup. I'd like a "top of all time" thing, which is a simple number of downloads sort and number of likes sort; and also a "trending" sort which takes into consideration attention and recency

[nocturne lantern]

Doesn't sound like a bad plan. Will have to find a nice balance of what's considered new or old enough too

[brisk crescent]

Btw do we have slopes yet?

[low parrot]

no

[brisk crescent]

shut up lizard

[low parrot]

ar

[fervent pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/superjohn-john-retro-mario-so-retro-gif-15638699369173544805

[nocturne lantern]

we don't have slopes

everytime someone asks or suggests them i'll remove one line of code from their script

jk jk

but yeah no they're somewhat far in the planned milestones

[fervent pilot]

waiting for slopes?

no slopes for you!!!!!!!!!!

[smoky raptor]

proof that just learning unity oneself is better

[nocturne lantern]

Jokes on you, this mod uses more than one engine and programming language so you're cooked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1329159242610901075.webp?size=32

[brisk crescent]

This is why you should recreate turnip mod in godot

[violet mist]

this is why you should be recreated in godot

[smoky raptor]

Jokes?
I Was Referring To modding mvlo And making the Maps Within Unity And Just have Slopes 👽

-# And Everything Else ofc

[smoky raptor]

Can't Wait For Windows12: Made With Godot

[nocturne lantern]

But mvlo maker is soooo convenient and easy to use and you can share your levels!!!

:(

[knotty pewter]

New account created, password saved safely xD

[knotty pewter]

Slopes will be game changing when they will come out

[fervent pilot]

hope not-

[woven fiber]

reverse engineer nsmb and make nsmb maker

[brisk crescent]

nsmbE

[smoky raptor]

Then One Can't Add Anything In 😔
Too Restrictive.

[nocturne lantern]

Dude what

[smoky raptor]

dude what indeed

[nocturne lantern]

[WIP] MvLO Maker

Forgot to remove the "on break" long ago, oop's

[woven fiber]

dw vic was still on break

[nocturne lantern]

I hope he had a good one

[forest kraken]

is there multiplayer?

like other people can play levels with you

and playing other people's levels with people

[azure quail]

Yes

But the host is the only one who can choose the levels

Like vanilla mvlo

Wait this shit gives me a suggestio-

[brisk crescent]

No more emoji thread name ;(

[woven fiber]

vic add a hammer next to maker so it catches people's eyes

[azure quail]

Tru

[nocturne lantern]

Yes, that's the main premise of this mod

[forest kraken]

oh

[woven fiber]

but i thog u already askd this sob

[faint gate]

is there a level editor

[solar kettle]

add sonic and blaze

[violet mist]

or ismt even an option anymore smh

[brisk crescent]

can u make levels in this?

[azure quail]

Is this mvlo but you can make your own levels?

[brisk crescent]

i think so

[violet mist]

no

[glacial olive]

is there mario, vs, luigi, online or maker in this game?

[violet mist]

also no

all scam

vic is a fraud

[nocturne lantern]

is joe presidente?

[brisk crescent]

who's joe

[nocturne lantern]

biden soda

[low parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/soda-gif-8026056502744469335

[woven fiber]

is vic vic

[violet mist]

ligma balls

[brisk crescent]

That wasN'T IN THE SCRIPT!

[rotund grove]

Hey when I'm I going to be introduced 😠

I remind you I'm getting payed for each line

[rotund grove]

OH NO-

[forest kraken]

add shadow

[rose narwhal]

THERE IS A MvLO MAKER?

[azure quail]

Yeag

Still wip

[or there is a early ver I forgot]

[rose narwhal]

ah

[nocturne lantern]

Ye there's an early access version in the pinned messages you can play. I'm still working on improving the ui

[azure quail]

good luck vic!!

[nocturne lantern]

Thx!! Still taking a break to work on other projects, but slowly regaining motivation for this. Dw, i haven't abandoned this

[azure quail]

Okay

[finite sandal]

toliet

[solid lichen]

🚽

[sick heart]

dead

[low parrot]

Dead what?

[nocturne lantern]

people can still like, play this without anyone talking here
it's just that there are no news as of late

[violet mist]

bitches when people try to do anything other than work

[brisk crescent]

Super Mario already causing rage bait lmao

[swift matrix]

this game have download for pc pls

[nocturne lantern]

yes, check out the pinned message

this mod's still in early release, so it's unfinished. but you can play it nonetheless

[swift matrix]

link

[knotty pewter]

Check the pinned message, do you know where that is?

Look up for that icon

[swift matrix]

wats the win32 version

not have the win32 version

[knotty pewter]

Nope

[swift matrix]

so sad

in searshing a new mod on win32 download

[sick heart]

The same thing that happens to me tbh but i dont get mad about it just sayin

it was legit just to be funny

[devout elm]

gues its times to make levels with this!

[quasi socket]

thank u for making this mod
even in beta it has been thoroughly enjoyable :D

[nocturne lantern]

I'm very glad!

[finite sandal]

wheres download

[brisk crescent]

pinned message

[forest kraken]

Question for the mod
Is there a discord server of it.

Also fun fact, I enjoyed it

[azure quail]

no

I’m guessing that vicity Vic will make a channel in his shenanigans server

-# or not I dunno

[sturdy bough]

is there a reason why it would not open the window for loading or creating a level

it opens a blank grey window that just closes itself after a second

[honest ferry]

@nocturne lantern ?

[nocturne lantern]

Ah, the classic graphics driver issue. Will be resolved in the stable/final release, but for now please follow these instructions:
#1289009524979535882 message

[sturdy bough]

thank

will try that now

awesome that worked tysm

[sturdy bough]

wahoo made a level, very nice application vic, love it

[fervent pilot]

i forgot i had that pipes but better thing

[raw bone]

grah made a new level today check it out NOW

[torn turtle]

guys how do i set like where the pipes warp you yo idk what to put when it tells me "warp pipe target"

[torpid zephyr]

that’s unfinished if i recall

so you can’t make warp-able pipes here

[torn turtle]

oof alright

[fervent pilot]

its still unfinished

[rotund grove]

it has been 5849 years since I haven't launched this game
just wanted to know; is 0.2 still the latest version?

[nocturne lantern]

i'm afraid it is, yes

[rotund grove]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-asdfmovie-surprise-casual-gif-26186654

only ones will know how much that "oh" actually is

[sick heart]

._.

[raw bone]

making a new level and it had so much to load it kicked me out of my own lobby, while i was host.

[nocturne lantern]

That's so funny
Did you upload it? I wanna know how big it truly is

[raw bone]

nope

not yet+

i can rq tho

its up

[nocturne lantern]

Whenever you want

Ok awesome

For me it did load, but it took its sweet time lol

This would be a good moment to optimize the loading and stuff...

[raw bone]

very true

[nocturne lantern]

your level is the largest so far hah nice

56kb i think

[raw bone]

im guessing the limits either 64kb or 60kb

[nocturne lantern]

there's no limit in the kb size really, just the width and height of the level

[raw bone]

oh

[brisk crescent]

there aren't limits i suppose
i have a few levels that are over 1mb big

[nocturne lantern]

that's kinda crazy

that actually doesn't sound correct sob i feel it should be like a few houndred kb at most

[quaint dawn]

Vic what Will come out before VCMI or Maker?

[nocturne lantern]

I really don't know...

[brisk crescent]

They actually are

[nocturne lantern]

Oh I thought you were talking about mvlo maker level files

[brisk crescent]

oh 👽

[nocturne lantern]

Those are stored differently so we can't really compare

[brisk crescent]

oh

[nocturne lantern]

But ya I mean with the decoration and stuff it's bound to increase in size

At least they look good

[brisk crescent]

exactly

except for this crap...

they're 2mb big because of the endless pit size

[brisk crescent]

vcmi 18?

[quaint dawn]

Yes

[nocturne lantern]

Depends on how 1.8 progress goes I suppose

Because I want to release it after vanilla

[brisk crescent]

vcmi 20 when

[quaint dawn]

Why?

[brisk crescent]

vic is racing with ipod

[nocturne lantern]

Yeah I'm going for a day 1 release lmao

[nocturne lantern]

Because many stuff changes in vanilla and I want to have the latest features and bug fixes

Also releasing a 1.8 mod before vanilla updates is kinda rude

[brisk crescent]

Will modding tutorials come along with 1.8? 🥺

[nocturne lantern]

I hope so!! They'll start being hosted on GitHub now though

[quaint dawn]

Yup

[nocturne lantern]

And now I'm preoccupied with vcmi so this is why this is kinda dead, though it's shaping up nicely. I mean the characters, maps, and rules are all like 90% done. So with what I've learned I can soon come back to mvlo maker and port it to 1.8 too

[quaint dawn]

O that's cool

But wasn't 1.8 bad Networking?

[nocturne lantern]

Nah it's good now

[quaint dawn]

A ok

[nocturne lantern]

It was bad while it was WIP, but now it's become very stable and smooth

[quaint dawn]

Then IS should not happen the Kick thing bug

[grim marten]

Mornin custom match-inator

[brisk crescent]

instead of predicting movements, now you have to predict inputs

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-luigi-rucka-rucka-ali-itsrucka-vibing-gif-18667369

[nocturne lantern]

Also imagine a merge of vcmi and maker
Or of maker with other mods
Monopoly 🤑 🫰

[quaint dawn]

€

[quaint dawn]

Also no Nintendo Will come ipodtouch's house

Also vic's house

[raw bone]

if im understanding this correctly, these are all levels currently on the servers (from biggest to smallest), or is it just my account?

[nocturne lantern]

All of them

[raw bone]

ah ok

[shy belfry]

how are stages handled? do you send the downloaded stage from the host to the clients as bytes?

or does the host give the users the stage id and they download it themselves

[nocturne lantern]

Yes, only the host does the downloading, and then sends the level contents to the rest of the players

A command should be all I need if ported to 1.8

[shy belfry]

I think the issue is the RPC size then

for big levels not working

[shy belfry]

I think commands have a max size too

[nocturne lantern]

Oh it's not that. I could load the level when I tried. It's just that... Ok it's kinda funny
The level downloads fine, but upon starting the match and loading (when the converter script places the tiles and entities), depending on your PC it will hang for long enough that you get disconnected for timing out

[shy belfry]

ah. so its a level building issue

do you have like an empty scene that gets populated with the tiles?

[nocturne lantern]

Yeah exactly

[shy belfry]

hmm. 1.8 could probably do this better

[nocturne lantern]

It does so in a blocking way and it's not the most efficient thing. Haven't done enough iterating on it yet to optimize it hah

[nocturne lantern]

How do you reckon it could be done?

[shy belfry]

in 1.8 you could serialize a VersusStageData instance and save that on the server instead

heck, baked entities are stored in the Map asset, so you could just serialize the entire Map

[nocturne lantern]

But I'm not saving any unity or mvlo data on the server. It's just tile positions and entity type numbers...

[shy belfry]

i suppose you could build a Map / VersusStageData dynamically

using async? not sure.

[nocturne lantern]

For example now I can reuse my entire db for 1.8, other mods, or other apps that aren't even games

BC it's fairly independent

[nocturne lantern]

Hopefully so

[shy belfry]

https://doc.photonengine.com/quantum/current/manual/maps/dynamic-map

and https://doc.photonengine.com/quantum/current/manual/assets/assets-simulation#dynamic-assets

[nocturne lantern]

Ok, this is promising. It's what I do with the current version - just trust everyone instantiated the correct things on their end

The DynamicMap page doesn't seem to mention anything more than collision info...

[shy belfry]

this would be downloading the stages between all clients

[nocturne lantern]

But... DynamicAssets sound like if I wanted to create new types of enemies at runtime, not instantiate existing ones. For example if I created a yellow Koppa at runtime...

[shy belfry]

actually.....

how would downloading even work at all?

the simulation can't run http requests

[nocturne lantern]

I'm not doing any requests from the "Player" (the unity side of the mod)

I do those from the "Editor" (the maker and level browser) and then IPC it
Call me whatever you want, but I wanted to have this separation from the start

[shy belfry]

yeah that...... most likely wont work in 1.8

[nocturne lantern]

It's ok if the download happens in the lobby though. The conversion processes of server -> game and game -> actual usable map data are separate enough

But also like... There are no requests or ipc in the middle of a match. At that point the level has already been built and is untouched

[shy belfry]

right, but the pre-game room still uses quantum

the simulation is already running there

[nocturne lantern]

Oh. I thought that only started when Start Gameing

[shy belfry]

you can only start a quantum simulation once, its a limitation of the cloud servers

so i start it immediately when creating a room and the lobby system works inside quantum itself

[nocturne lantern]

Small tangent, what happens with the sim when you exit out of a lobby?

[shy belfry]

(thats why the tick numbers started so high for the replay thing)

[shy belfry]

wym?

your player gets removed. If any other player is still running the sim they just get OnPlayerRemoved called

if no other player is in the room, the room closes on the cloud

[nocturne lantern]

This is breaking my brain a bit
So a simulation can still run even with no rooms or players?

[shy belfry]

no

because the cloud doesnt run the simulation

each client runs their own simulation

the cloud server just passes inputs/commands (alongside other things like synchronizing the time) between all clients

the cloud server doesnt run any simulation code

[nocturne lantern]

Ah. And if I join a diff person's room, does my simulation need to get to a state that's similar to everyone else's?

[shy belfry]

you're given the state via a serialized frame from a random player

then the server sends you the input history to make up the difference

[nocturne lantern]

Got it

[shy belfry]

if downloading the entire state from another player takes 2s, you get the last 120 frames worth of inputs sent to catch up

[raw bone]

what`re we thinkin of this? (new level 👀)

supposed to look abit like a factory (hence the pipes background)

[azure quail]

Peaks

[raw bone]

preview for a new level ⬛ 👀

[quaint dawn]

Tik-tok clock

[raw bone]

nope ❌

the hint has something to do with the emojis

[woven fiber]

NDS EMOTICONS

[smoky raptor]

Honestly looks like the eye emojis lol

[raw bone]

you just gave me the idea to build the :simple_glare: in the editor sooo thatnk thank you.

[woven fiber]

o mein gott simple glare....

[raw bone]

ohhh Frosty spricht Deutsch! Am lernen?

[woven fiber]

no :sob i speak spanish LMAO

i just know that

[raw bone]

oh

[raw bone]

thoughts so far?

it looks like it, looked at from the side

oh god what did i do to him

[brisk crescent]

turnip learning how to mod mvlo for the first time

[smoky raptor]

so tru

[raw bone]

a ghostly fellow!

[brisk crescent]

left is turnip if he was a ghost in pacman

[raw bone]

yea true

only missing the leaves really

but i have no space for that naymore i think

[woven fiber]

is this raboskull

[grim marten]

NAPSTABLOOK

[raw bone]

im doing the turnip yiipee next

[nocturne lantern]

turnip has been SQUISHED

[raw bone]

yiipii !!!

[knotty pewter]

yipeeeee

[raw bone]

ok the kirnip museum is up

wait actually not yet

i forgot a way to see yiipii turnip fully

[turbid plover]

thaats undertale

[grim marten]

Yeah I know thanks for pointing that out Mr. Captain Obvious

[oak nest]

oh this still isn't fixed

[nocturne lantern]

There hasn't been a public updated build since then I'm afraid

[oak nest]

i know you're working on a lot of things, can't ask too much
but mvlo maker kinda feels unfinished for now, it has a lot of bugs

[grim marten]

It's because its still in super duper beta

Ofc a lot is not finished

Patience is key

I am not patient for example

[nocturne lantern]

Yes, the current build is meant as an "early release" for users to get used to the workflow. I tried making this as clear as possible

It's far from finished. Still got a bit to do before getting a v1 out

[spring viper]

These tiles remember me of when I used to play a small game called EverybodyEdits

[raw bone]

new level cooking, from the title card, can you guess what it is? (its super obvious)

[glacial olive]

yea

[oak nest]

Any news?

[nocturne lantern]

no, i apologize

to make a long story short, life's been getting in the way

🏗️ MvLO Maker

shua

[knotty pewter]

No worries, take care

[honest ferry]

curse you vic my eyes are baited towards maker and vcmi because of youuuuu uggghhhhhhhh

[oak nest]

No problem, just asking

[nocturne lantern]

walltop fumble by casinoluigi is such a fun stage lol normally i don't like kaizos or whatever they're called but this one is perfectly fair and very balanced for my skill level so i found it very fun

[oak nest]

it's often like this for kaizo, unless you simply like pain

[nocturne lantern]

free ddos just press the login button a lot

don't even have to hack my servers i already do it for you

[honest ferry]

not the fucking old ass horn

😭

[golden eagle]

vic you're getting a promotion that horn is so good

[raw bone]

i was gonna do a extremly overhyped response, actually im gonna: LETS GOOOOOO-

[raw bone]

i just got a idea, no idea how complex it would be to implement; foreground tiles, but theres this one thing, how would they work?

hmmmm

would it be like in NSMBWii, with the small circle

or just an outline

or not at all

hmmm

[quaint dawn]

Remaking sky went good

[brisk crescent]

For what good reason did bro remake sky? 😭

[quaint dawn]

because it isn't on make

r

[brisk crescent]

but its in vanilla...
if you wanted to play sky then play vanilla lol

[glacial olive]

not if you want to edit sky though

[brisk crescent]

yeah a sky edit is valid

Like making it more campy

[torpid zephyr]

sometimes remaking existing stuff is fun

[honest ferry]

is this why there's a million 1-1's in maker

[oak nest]

it's not exactly accurate but good enough

[faint gate]

1-1 but

1-1 but dark

[torpid zephyr]

no that’s just billys being unoriginal

buzz lightyear gif

[honest ferry]

ok miibumm you dont know anything about 1-1 lore

[faint gate]

1-1 story mode

[lament abyss]

what comes first, mmim or mvlo maker update

[brisk crescent]

mmim

[upbeat heart]

One small problem with this. The small mushrooms don't work.

[turbid plover]

https://discord.com/channels/956396409731551263/1056046100999577620

[honest ferry]

that was super not needed

[quaint dawn]

new lvl

[delicate wigeon]

wow

it looks really good

[quaint dawn]

Thanks

[rotund grove]

Unrelated but

is the version here still 0.2?

[knotty pewter]

yes

[rotund grove]

craze

Ig vic is caring more about vcmi or other things

[oak nest]

Vic does a lot of things at once, gotta be patient

[azure quail]

people have lives mate.

[honest ferry]

i mean he did care about vcmi and other things

he's not wrong

[rotund grove]

I just realised he stole my suggestion I did a while back https://discord.com/channels/956396409731551263/1138873754152353903

[rotund grove]

I will tkae vic to court!!!!! 😠 😡😠 😡😠 😡😠 😡

[nocturne lantern]

españa flag jumpscare

[boreal jackal]

This project is gonna be great, can't wait for it

[rotund grove]

erm actually its already released ☝️ 🤓

just click here

[solar monolith]

h

[boreal jackal]

Oh my fault

It's for pc only tho

[rotund grove]

yeah, since the original mario vs luigi online is only made for pc

[honest ferry]

there's not many mobile mods

and this one is straight up impossible to port due to how it works

[boreal jackal]

Fair point

[solemn hollow]

How to move camera in mvlo maker?

Nvm

[nocturne lantern]

ok dude the spam was not necessary

you can delete your levels if you open them up in the browser, btw

[solemn hollow]

Oh.

I didnt know

It was almost My first level

Also

How to do a warp

[nocturne lantern]

Pipe warps do not work currently

[solemn hollow]

Oh ok, Thanks Vic

[shy belfry]

another budget cut by big pipe keeping the little guys (designers) down

[solemn hollow]

Uhm

[faint gate]

nothing new, that bug was already a thing lol

[solemn hollow]

oh.

[shy belfry]

no its a plant, not a bug.

[solemn hollow]

Lollll

[solemn hollow]

Im making a level in mvlo maker

[solemn hollow]

Squishys can Work as a platform ngl

[solemn hollow]

Also

I Made a lobby in mvlo maker

To test my
Maps
In vs

Im

ComputerTouch67Zeck

[solemn hollow]

-# Also im zeck ineeded

[plucky glen]

Looks soo intuitive!

[rotund grove]

It's too late vic...

I NOW HAVE A LAWYER!

[rigid aurora]

Hello hi

I am Somos' Lawyer

but you can call me mr. Jamel

J-just
A-a
M-morally
E-educated
L-lawyer

[rotund grove]

Thank you for your introduction mr. Jamel

[rigid aurora]

But you're welcome somos.. now.. what do we have here?

[rotund grove]

Vic stole the concept of adding a level editor into MvLo

[rigid aurora]

That's terrible

I feel sorry for your victimization

[rigid aurora]

This can be seen as plagiarism since vic pretended like it was his idea, hm, just to be sure, could you link the suggestion you made about adding a level editor?

[rotund grove]

It's alright Mr. Jamel :)

[rotund grove]

as for this, here is the suggestion:https://discord.com/channels/956396409731551263/1138873754152353903

[rigid aurora]

Good good..

[rigid aurora]

This suggestion was posted in 2023, whereas, vic's mod released 1 year later, in 2024

This should be punished.. Now!

[rotund grove]

Thank you for your understanding Mr Jamel

[rigid aurora]

But you're welcome

Anyways as for the punishement

My honor told me to sentence him to Jail for 67 weeks and no desert for 61 weekends

[rotund grove]

It sounds reasonable enough, I wouldn't negotiate that

[rigid aurora]

Thank you for your understanding

[rotund grove]

You're welcome Mr. James, how much do I owe you?

[rigid aurora]

You shall give me 200$

[rotund grove]

gives 200$

[rigid aurora]

takes 200$
It's with gratitude that I was able to co-operate so smoothly with you, Somos

[rotund grove]

Yeah.. And thanks for helping me out too :)

[rigid aurora]

You're welcome Somos, now I might aswell leave you there, make sure to remind vic about it!

[rotund grove]

Sure thing, I won't forget!

[rigid aurora]

Goodbye

[nocturne lantern]

so what i'll do is sue you for defamation

[rigid aurora]

OBJECTION

nah uh u wont

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-5740684570554038053

shit I forgot I had no embed rights...

[rotund grove]

you're making me lose credibility do something atlast