🏗️ MvLO Maker

[nocturne lantern]

Nope, chat is fine

Must be the timer text validator trying to escape again

[smoky raptor]

yeah that
-# Tho I Was meaning Did The Chat's Do The Same Thing During Development

[nocturne lantern]

No, it didn't...

[smoky raptor]

Typically When one Of Thems Broke Outa Nowhere, The Other breaks
Oh Well, Either it Didn't Or You Don't Remember🤷‍♂️ Doesn't Really Matter Anyway

[nocturne lantern]

Ye

[oak nest]

Oh I could have guessed
I've heard of volcano games on the vanilla game where these just disappear

[smoky raptor]

No Way-
I Would Love To See That
-# I... Could Also Just Mod That-

[woven fiber]

wait what

[glacial olive]

ccm mini madness obstacle course/taco bell/whatever the final map was called i forgot

[nocturne lantern]

Btw I've been seeing some duplicate levels with small revisions, remember that you can delete levels you've uploaded if they've been replaced by new versions!

[oak nest]

You lose the download score though

Oh wait that gives me an idea

a download score for creators

Or a like score?

[nocturne lantern]

But like, it's the same level only not finished

It's a couple of minutes difference

[oak nest]

Oh
I was thinking if you modify your level a week after or something, after receiving comments

But in the case you're showing you're def right

[nocturne lantern]

Hm, I guess you could edit a level but what if you like make a great map, then just replace it with nonsense

[oak nest]

I thought of the same case
Maybe it resets the counters but doesn't remove the ones on your account? (considering there would be a counter for creators)

Or just.. leave it like it is right now

[nocturne lantern]

Oh I understand

Yeah a "total likes ever gained" counter on your account is very interesting

Like Reddit karma 💀💀

[oak nest]

Not related, but did anyone already tell you your profile picture is lovely?

[nocturne lantern]

Aw thanks

I thought the mini bowser toy was cute lol

[oak nest]

Sure is

[shy belfry]

clients will abandon ship if the host creates a mariobrosplatform because that'd only happen via cheating

I think the check is in the game manager

[nocturne lantern]

ah, i found it. it's in the Instantiation case of HandleEvent

though i wonder which one of these two it is

that "sender is not is master client not true" statement in the middle is kinda confusing me though, ngl

[shy belfry]

It's the first one

prefab.Contains("Static")

Because the platform is in the static subfolder

[woven fiber]

but

why does the cloud platform work then though

it’s in the static prefabs

still delete that though but that’s confusing

[nocturne lantern]

because the cloud plat doesn't need to be instantiated through photonnetwork

it doesn't need a view id

[nocturne lantern]

but the comparison at the bottom is also looking for "Static" in the prefab path

[woven fiber]

o

[nocturne lantern]

so what is that one supposed to disconnect?

i must be not seeing smth obvious here

oh, it's if the host sees a non-host spawning something, is it now? and the master sends a disconnect signal to them

that's fine then since the mariobros plat will only be instantiated by the master so

ok well thx for the help

well tbh the other problem i now have is that coins ain't respawning after getting a star lol

I made sure to use FloatingCoins, instantiate them networkingly, have them with the "coin" tag, and make sure they're in GameManager's "coins" array. they work perfectly apart from not reappearing after Star

hrm...

i wonder if this bug is unrelated to maker and is instead something having gotten messed up when re-branching

oh that's so funny, that's totally the problem because i just tried a vanilla map and coins are also gone forever

well this is awkward

a commit from 3 months ago when i was removing vcmi-exclusive content

just fixed it now... sigh

[woven fiber]

hot fix release 👀…?

[nocturne lantern]

Nah, I'll reserve it for next early access build so it has more features alongside it

Dw dw, it won't take months. Just a couple of days

Just wanna finish adding Opinions and some highly requested missing tiles/items

[raw bone]

opinions next version 🔥🔥 cant wait to hate on other people

[nocturne lantern]

toxic

[honest ferry]

opinions bans next version 🔥 🔥 cant wait to not let people hate others with no reason

[glacial olive]

"you are no longer allowed to have opinions"

facts ONLY.

[nocturne lantern]

who did this

so ohio

also pls delete old version of levels when you re-upload revisions grrr!

don't make me add a "you can't upload a level with the same name" restriction!

[fervent pilot]

no offense but i fucking hate this

[nocturne lantern]

Tell that to whoever uploaded them

[fervent pilot]

@weak tendon hello buddy

[fervent pilot]

hey vic

not to be confused with vik

i have created the best level in existence

[knotty pewter]

They haven't been respawning at all from the beginning

Ah you were already aware of it for a while

[fervent pilot]

got a question

is there a level creation limit?

[lament abyss]

for some reason i cant play my map now

it just says timed out

nvm

it started

NOW for some reason the editor deleted all the autotiles in my level

[oak nest]

"Skibidi Attack v2"

[honest ferry]

the sequel

skibidi attack: rise of the toilets

[nocturne lantern]

Did you like... Accidentally press Clear All?

It might have auto-saved though

[honest ferry]

enlighten me, vic

what's the clear all thing

i may or may not forgotten everything about the editor other than the auto tile thing and the pain pipes were

[nocturne lantern]

A user can create however many levels they want, but you just can't "spam" a bunch in the same minute

[nocturne lantern]

Believe me that mini pipes have been giving me a headache too to align properly

[honest ferry]

mhm those are pretty darn painful

[nocturne lantern]

There'll be time to fix it though it's fine for a v0

[nocturne lantern]

Oh it resets every tile and item placed on the editor

[honest ferry]

is it a simple button...

[nocturne lantern]

It has no confirmation dialog so make sure you've saved before!!

Yeah it's a button in the "Open & Save" tab

[honest ferry]

okay vic you should... do something about that........... 🥹

[nocturne lantern]

I knooooow this is just a prototype build....

[honest ferry]

at least make it mario maker-esque with the rocket thingy or smth but pleas

[lament abyss]

nope

i just selected erase tiles

mouse got a little bit out bounds

and deleted everything

but i saved it so im ok

[honest ferry]

that sounds like average creepypasta

ngl

[lament abyss]

also i uploaded a map, weird volcano

can yall play it

[honest ferry]

and then mario with blood coming out of its eyes appeared and said "wahoo i'm gonna kill you"

[nocturne lantern]

Ohh that's funny

Yeah I have to make that a bit less janky

[honest ferry]

your efforts are gone, haha

[lament abyss]

mario madn-

[honest ferry]

[nocturne lantern]

And then SpongeBob said "POPUP TEST" and you die

[honest ferry]

[woven fiber]

i uploaded a 2nd version of my sky sumo map!!

its like slightly different does that count

🥺

[nocturne lantern]

you changed the name so you're spared...

[brisk crescent]

Uploaded new peak map

Cloud Hell

[honest ferry]

wait a minute..

[violet mist]

chat remind me to remake THE map tomorrow

[honest ferry]

the?

as in

vcmi's THE emoji

[violet mist]

i made that emoji too stupid

smh amh

i mean the map im known for

[woven fiber]

is it the rock…

[violet mist]

0/100 you get F-

[woven fiber]

is it the birabu-

[violet mist]

dude i didnt even make that 😭

give credit to @solar kettle

[honest ferry]

💔 ..

they called me STUPID...

world is doomed,,,ma lndfld./xvcb.,xcvb.,m/..

[violet mist]

stuepridd

[solar kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-stare-goku-meme-goku-angry-dark-goku-gif-9241577022218433700

[violet mist]

jumpscare

[woven fiber]

YOU AND IVY ARE CONFUSING ME SO DAMN MUCH WITH THAT MAP ISTG

[violet mist]

ivy made it

i ported it

[woven fiber]

ITS FROM TOASTED BUT SOMETIMES IK ITS IVYS BUT THEN I THINK MIYAV MADE IT :sob

[violet mist]

so did cubby

[honest ferry]

i think

[woven fiber]

oh yeah ccm too :alien

[honest ferry]

you're nuts

[woven fiber]

but thank for clarify

[violet mist]

ivy awesome counter

[solar kettle]

The mid Birabuto Kingdom vs the peak Mapno 3 and Mapno 4 race maps

[honest ferry]

fr

[violet mist]

map numero sinqo

[honest ferry]

where's mapno 1 and 2

[woven fiber]

yuh know what if race maps were recreated in mvlo maker 🤔

[violet mist]

lack of money

[golden eagle]

what if you burned immediately

for one second

[violet mist]

yea what if that

[solar kettle]

oh god imagine their game over screens

[violet mist]

but for two second

[honest ferry]

mario lego but irl

[violet mist]

anyways uhh talking about toasted

[honest ferry]

i want mvl beaned

so we can have

beans

on

t

t

[violet mist]

what if toasted remake
but slightly more than map pack

you think thatd get like 2 more people aware of the mod

[honest ferry]

yes

[violet mist]

mvlo beaned coming 2005

[honest ferry]

holy fuck!

this information makes me wanna eat beans!

[violet mist]

beans incoming

run

[honest ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-no-beans-gif-25870890

they gone

[violet mist]

oh yea look the beans emoji looks like a dumbass face 🫘

never unsee

[honest ferry]

i will in fact, unsee it the second i stop talking with you

[violet mist]

no you wont youre crazing it further into your mind by contuniung the conversation were having about the beans emoji
your brain wont always be able to deny

be cursed with beans face

i hate this keyboard 7

[honest ferry]

keyboard 7

since when are we on the 7th version of the keyboard

i still got keyboard 5

am i this outdated

[nocturne lantern]

Keybaordç

[brisk crescent]

vic, remove the length limit!!

48 tiles is too big...

i wanna make a level 26...

actually

idea

minimum limit = 26
max limit 128

🧠

[woven fiber]

huh-

[brisk crescent]

level width i mean

same thing

shut up frosfy

[nocturne lantern]

The length can go up to 512

And the minimum is fourty-something because any smaller and it literally doesn't work in mvlo
Either the camera breaks or the level is smaller than a screen's worth

[azure quail]

Hi Vic !

[nocturne lantern]

Hello meddourk!

[azure quail]

-# i used my 5 seconds to say hi vic

-# and now im gone Woooooosh

[brisk crescent]

"doesn't work in mvlo"
I mean i made a map that is just 1 tile wider than the amount of tiles the camera can show (which IS 26 tiles) and it works fine i see no issue

But if MvLO Maker works differently then i got no complain

[nocturne lantern]

Ah... Weird

The minimum in maker used to be around 32 and even that caused problems when testing so

[brisk crescent]

Then it's this

Ofc it's not the same as Unity i understand that

[nocturne lantern]

I think it's ok. 48 is small enough in my eyes so I won't bother trying to accommodate/debug smaller sizes, sosrry

[smoky raptor]

My Dream To make bricks But Gray Is SHATTERED
-# Aka Nothing

[nocturne lantern]

bricks is too small anyway 🤢 ... you can make something better by extending it a bit before making it gray i'm sure of it

[smoky raptor]

We Want Variety :simple_glare:

Anyways The Camera Gets Weird With odd Numbers
Prob Restrict That

[nocturne lantern]

ye known bugger

[smoky raptor]

-# Or Fix Teehee

[nocturne lantern]

i asked ipod and he said it's a bug in vanilla itself so I'll just restrict the width to even nrs

because i'm too scared to jump in and try to fix it

[smoky raptor]

Bugs Are Scary True

[nocturne lantern]

tryna think...

what other items have i forgotten??

[smoky raptor]

Everything ofc
Can't Wait To Dispense bonus Pillars From Pipes

In All Seriousness Allowing Every Enemy At Least Would be Cool...

[oak nest]

Spikes? 🥹
And slopes
What about those semisolids tiles in desert

Also, do you think you'll add the enemies that are only in vicmvlo?

[smoky raptor]

Shoot I Viewed The Image As Settings For Pipe

[oak nest]

Other question: would you add a way to disable auto tiling and choose the one you want, whatever the theme?

[oak nest]

Enterable pipes also has mini pipe in it right?

Other idea: item disabling
Just like un volcano you could disable mega, or just like in fortress you could disable propeller, or just any powerup

[knotty pewter]

I think those are in the menu but not available yet (desert semi solid)

Question for vic: Are the backgrounds going to adapt to the height of a level or remain like so? Because for pipes it's just black above the wallpaper

[nocturne lantern]

i meant items like, enemies and stuff

but i think piranha plants and bobombs are the only ones i forgot from vanilla

also yes, spikes will be in

(idk how to draw the omnidirectional one so)

some more decorative tiles will also get in

[nocturne lantern]

sorry, not possible

[nocturne lantern]

yeah lol i'll fix that eventually. i'll just have to extend them

i alr had all of this in mind lol

• alternate colour mini pipes

subsequent versions might see other enemies like buzzy beetle, firebar, and stuff, why not

there, i think that's all. that way you guys don't have to waste your time asking lol
i have some other features noted down but they're less urgent so they'll be revealed in future playtesting builds

(though do suggest if you want..)

i do wonder if the spike in all directions should have a 1:1 hitbox or a bit smaller to make it fairer......

[torpid zephyr]

what about the rising and falling mushrooms

that make the funny sound

[nocturne lantern]

Urk, those aren't even in vanilla so it's a bit more complicated

[glacial olive]

imo a just slightly smaller hitbox so you can at least stand at the edge between an omnispike and a block and not get hurt (at least vertically, and horizontally only if jumping in place would also make you get hit with a full block hitbox)

[azure quail]

@nocturne lantern
-# sorry for da ping
but uhh the maker editor doesnt work for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[woven fiber]

I can’t imagine how overwhelmed vic probably is after reading all this chat 👽

[azure quail]

-# alien

[woven fiber]

I can try drawing em later if u want 🥺

[nocturne lantern]

It actually fills my heart with joy seeing such interest for a still WIP project!!

[nocturne lantern]

Uhh let me find the message that has the link to the compatibility build

Here @azure quail just do the do! #1289009524979535882 message

[azure quail]

oh thanks vic !!

[shy belfry]

how is the camera bugged, btw?

like is it the level seam teleporting?

[nocturne lantern]

It's... The odd number width causes the cam to jump nastily when running through the seam, yeah

Like, it skips one tile. I've seen though that it only does this sometimes. I ran past the seam multiple times trying to find a pattern but I failed

[shy belfry]

there's probably an integer division somewhere in the camera controller code

[nocturne lantern]

Hm! Good point

[oak nest]

I would have said 1:1 to make it exact, and it's also fitting the use I'd intend for them
But I get why you ask, as for a normal level it would be better

So uh yeah my opinion is surely biased, but I think it would be weird to have for exemple one block, a spike on it, but you can still somehow stand on an invisible edge on the block while not getting killed by the spike

[oak nest]

Can I try to draw one?

Oh frosty said he'd try

I'll try then

[oak nest]

About this, is it a technical limitation or something that you don't want to do, so the terrain always fits the bg

[shy belfry]

the autotiled ground just has a generic ID like "ground"

allowing any ground in any theme without autotiling would be adding like 10*variations individual tiles

[oak nest]

Yes?

Not sure if I phrased it correctly
I wasn't asking if you can have every single tile separately, but more like having one autotile for each theme

I see, you would still need to make duplicates right? The tile just checks what background there is

Alright then
Not so important anyway

[nocturne lantern]

I mean, I could make it so you can swap the background image(s) with some other preset without affecting the Theme, ig

[nocturne lantern]

And as for this, it's...

I wanted and planned every theme to have one singular terrain style, inspired again by smm. And so I built everything around this idea. I can't change the implementation easily without some major recoding

Mismatched themes aren't too pretty anyway

[oak nest]

Makes sense
I simply asked because I had the idea of a sky fortress that's all

[woven fiber]

attempt-

could def be way better tho 👽

[nocturne lantern]

Not bad, not bad...!

[woven fiber]

actually why not make the backgrounds parallax vertically instead 🤔

you’d still have to extend em prob but that would help!!

[glacial olive]

either that or make them not scroll vertically (but that might look a bit silly)

[shy belfry]

i think the shape would be better like this

[nocturne lantern]

i don't know how i feel about it not being exactly 16x16

imagine multiple of these in a grid. there'd be gaps in between them

[shy belfry]

mario maker gets around this by making the spikes on the evens offset to one side

like... one sec

@nocturne lantern

[nocturne lantern]

that seems to work fine

though i would prefer it if the diag segments also reached to the edge

because the hitbox definitely will, and the tile looks too small without this adjustment

[weak tendon]

como borro el otro xd

[nocturne lantern]

simplemente te vas al Browser, abres tu nivel y le das al boton de Delete :)

tienes que estar logueado obviamente

[weak tendon]

listo

hice el mapa a la rapida y no entendi casi nada por eso el mapa es muy malo XD

quisas me tome el tiempo para algun mapa bueno

[weak tendon]

hello

[weak tendon]

XD

[shy belfry]

make it pop up "you already have a stage uploaded with this name, do you want to overwrite it?" type thing?

[nocturne lantern]

i dont want an "overwrite/edit existing level" feature, but i could make an informative dialog appear like "hey why are you doing this? you sure?"

[shy belfry]

make a version history maybe?

like what's the reasoning for not wanting to edit an existing level, you dont want stages to suddenly change?

a version history someone saves/downloads a specific version of a stage might work. that way it wont change unless they download the updated version

but also no duplicates

a version history would also enable you to allow people to view/download old versions as well

maybe that can be an uploader's choice

"allow downloading of old versions"

depends on how much work you wanna put into it haha

the database would need a layout change probably

to allow for versions with unique stage layouts. also questions like "would you be able to change the description/name?"

[nocturne lantern]

my current problem is with levels that have the same name as one previously uploaded 5 minutes ago, and the "draft" version not being removed. a new map titled "my epic level V2" is perfectly fine though. for that, the Remix feature I've planned where a level is "parented" to or based on another one, could accomplish a similar outcome to what you explained - just with a slightly different ui

[shy belfry]

"if stage is already published" then prompt yes/no to delete the old one?

[nocturne lantern]

yeah, could be a popup that's "upload anyway / delete duplicate / use another name instead / upload as remix of duplicate(?)"

[shy belfry]

is it gonna be based on level name per account?

[nocturne lantern]

i suppose so, yes

[shy belfry]

because you dont want to be deleting a stage from a different user lmao

[nocturne lantern]

oh of course lol

that'd be so messed up
"i didn't like your lvl so i deleted it and made it better"

[fervent pilot]

shall we add stage reports?

[nocturne lantern]

yup, you'll be able to report maps/users for badness

eventually

[raw bone]

i think theres a small problem, empty gray bricks (left) and gray bricks with a mushroom (middle) do the same thing, while the gray brick with a coin (right) acts like a empty gray brick

i mean same thing as in, they both spawn a mushroom

[nocturne lantern]

oh wow, i really messed those up

ok thx, noted

[raw bone]

i noticed that while working on my maze part of co op castle

is spectate broken aswell? (i wonder what will happen if i press hard reset) (also hi viktor)

[fervent pilot]

hi

[fervent pilot]

what about one way walls?

[raw bone]

yea, those will be very useful

[woven fiber]

nah I think it’s cause u joined an already started lobby and u didn’t have the level downloaded on ur end

[grim marten]

HI FROSTY

[woven fiber]

hi lus

[grim marten]

1st, yes spectate is broken cuz you dont have the level downloaded and 2nd, hard reset should softlock the game for you iirc

[raw bone]

i tried, it did

[nocturne lantern]

the hard reset button is a remnant from vcmi speedrunning mode prolly should remove that
also yeah joining in the middle of a match will put you in a void. it'll be fine next match though

[nocturne lantern]

planned too

horizontal semisolids

[fervent pilot]

why are the colons missing

[raw bone]

i didnt even notice

[brisk crescent]

I can already imagine people make maps with slurs names

[raw bone]

also can we have abit more max map height

[fervent pilot]

i have a better idea

(probably)

use custom music

[oak nest]

no way you thought about adding those
didn't want to bother asking for them as there's none in nsmb

[oak nest]

here's my attempt

[raw bone]

speaking of spikes: will there be only a insta kill variant, only a damaging one, or will there be two diffrent ones?

that insta kill/ dmg

[oak nest]

Good question ⬆️

[raw bone]

both would be handy

(how would you signal that tho)

[oak nest]

dotmod also had a sort of "poison block" that you could walljump on but not stand on

[raw bone]

we need those + (maybe too much to ask) a variant that does the reverse

like kill left and right but lives up an ddown

[oak nest]

I just realised it looks a lot like mario maker's spikes

[fervent pilot]

give me a moment

how about

[raw bone]

cant wait for speedrunners to speedrun various maps and TAS em aswell

[fervent pilot]

mouse with axis

[oak nest]

oh viktor i didn't realize it's you

[fervent pilot]

heh

[oak nest]

Hi

[oak nest]

i've already prepared a kaizo map, I drew it on paper, I'm only waiting for spikes to get added

[raw bone]

i cant wait to update WWJS

(Wegas WallJumping Stage)

[fervent pilot]

@nocturne lantern sorry for the ping but why cant i enter pipes

[nocturne lantern]

feature not implemented yet. i forgot to remove that "enterable pipe" toggle to avoid confusion, sorry

[raw bone]

he left the example there on accident i hink

[nocturne lantern]

ye

[fervent pilot]

damn it

[nocturne lantern]

that's what those sideways spikes will be for #1289009524979535882 message

i just figured a spike instead of a purple block(?) made more sense

also spikes are supposed to harm you, just like an enemy

[raw bone]

ahhh ok

[nocturne lantern]

should take a couple of days for me to finish adding all these items/tiles, and after that, build time!

(early access number 2)

i hope it to be a good number of additional decoration and stuff too

[raw bone]

so im guessing, next version in 3 to 6 Days

[nocturne lantern]

hopefully sos

[glacial olive]

so you won't be able to stand on sideways spikes?

[nocturne lantern]

he won't get hurtp

omnispike: all four sides hurt
half-spikes: only pointy side hurts, the other 3 can stand on, bonk head on, or walljump off

[glacial olive]

then from what i interpret, that wouldn't work like the poison blocks he was talking about (because he said you can't stand on them)

[nocturne lantern]

the half spikes that point up ( ^^ ) will work like those poison blocks

the other three directions - right, left and down pointing, are just variants for other uses

[steady belfry]

?????!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nocturne lantern]

$$$$$&€€€€

[steady belfry]

this is insane

[raw bone]

so they insta.kill?

[nocturne lantern]

they harm you like enemies do

still thinking what icon/logo this should have... was thinking something in the smm font lol

[smoky raptor]

They Could If You Put 0 Ways To Get Powerups In The Level 👀

[knotty pewter]

Nerd

[woven fiber]

ok i just made a new variant based on snayp's does this look good

[azure quail]

Looks Epi

[violet mist]

you think it doesnt??

[azure quail]

c

[woven fiber]

@nocturne lantern

[knotty pewter]

They look nice but I think they have too much details, which doesn't really fit the theme of the game
(Note that I can't do any better, just expressing an opinion)

[steady belfry]

ds style hardest to mimic by far

[woven fiber]

hmmm

[knotty pewter]

Idk why but these ones are more fine to me

[oak nest]

oh
I thought it would still damage you if you touch the top part of the side

[oak nest]

Wow
You working hard, good luck

[nocturne lantern]

They're splendid, thanks a lot!

[oak nest]

call me a nerd, you'll only suffer more

[nocturne lantern]

For the level of detail thing, I think they're similar enough in style to what nsmb does...

[oak nest]

I guess you don't like the hole in the middle hahaha
alright

isn't there spike in some castle levels in nsmb? we can try to replicate the shading/coloring

[nocturne lantern]

Yep, see the screenshot above

That's what's used officially

[oak nest]

this is the screenshot?

[woven fiber]

yep

[oak nest]

k

[shy belfry]

i'd add the white shiny reflections to the centers of the spikes like in the original spikes

[smoky raptor]

I Think It's Because It's just Trying To Fit More In A Smaller Space
That's The issue

[violet mist]

what if he just doesnt play the map 👽

[oak nest]

wasn't talking about the map 😈

shading ideas

(kind of tried to make it seem like a spike is pointing towards the screen)

maybe the center is not the best, but i believe the diagonal spikes are not too bad

[nocturne lantern]

i like the shadow on the diags, gives the tile more depth

[fervent pilot]

also you uh

coins cannot respawn

[violet mist]

just use black magic bro

[nocturne lantern]

economy was inflated so i had to disable them

[fervent pilot]

:/

[raw bone]

but i need the cash to gamble!!!

[nocturne lantern]

you need the cash to EAT to SURVIVE you SILLY

grrrrumble!!!

[raw bone]

but i dont have enough

i NEED to win that Game guy Minigame

[fervent pilot]

casino

guess what

[fervent pilot]

hey

this is supposed to be the biggest map in mvlo history

[raw bone]

ohhh

so its 512 tiles?

[fervent pilot]

512x48

super duper big

[raw bone]

ahhh

[fervent pilot]

oh yea

the roulette block was bugged because i removed the rest of the tiles except the upper left

[raw bone]

oh

[fervent pilot]

usually for random pipes

like this

[raw bone]

ah ok

[fervent pilot]

which is quite a creative idea

[honest ferry]

it's the 2x2 roulette block right

[raw bone]

ye

[fervent pilot]

yes

[raw bone]

ok what was that

[oak nest]

Well excuse me

Why am I getting this error now? it was working 3 seconds ago

there might be a problem with how you open and close the game
this time i opened the editor beforehand and now it's working

[shy belfry]

2nd imo

[woven fiber]

ooo I like the 2nd one most

[fervent pilot]

brug

[smoky raptor]

The Current Strategy i use To Fix This Is Extend The height Of The stage Fill It In And Change it Back
Sadly Doesn't Appear possible With Pits 😔

[fervent pilot]

background problem

[smoky raptor]

ah that

-# Vic You Didn't Finish Vertical Level implementing Did You....

[fervent pilot]

i love making abominations

[steady belfry]

mario maker 1

[fervent pilot]

shotgun

[nocturne lantern]

literally nothing is finished implementing

[fervent pilot]

make the pipes blend in with the background

[raw bone]

this gimmick may or may not ruin the entire top side

[rotund grove]

hmmm

I might be cooking something, who knows...

[rotund grove]

[azure quail]

what 😭

[rotund grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1008009780545196104.gif?v=1&size=64

fucking around

ig

(used for this):

[nocturne lantern]

Nice decoration...

[rotund grove]

Thx

also this

and

also also

oh nvm

I was gonna say that the model for big luigi was broken but nvm

this time it worked

[rotund grove]

remplacement for the also also ^^

[rotund grove]

btw I wanted to point out

are there any signs or loading screens when you press "save locally"?

because whenever I try it its like the button doesn't do anything

[rotund grove]

kinda makes me

[nocturne lantern]

Nope... You click it and it's done, but you must input a Title for it to work
You can verify it's actually saved to a file by clicking Open and seeing if it's there

Yeah I'll add a popup next time

[rotund grove]

thanks alot

[nocturne lantern]

Title is required for Save to do anything, but description is not

And after that it'll all be restored when going to Open

[rotund grove]

yeah but that's already explained in game so I just named it "snowy hills"

also one last question

how do you manage those settings?

i mean

What are you supposed to define at "Warp Pipe Target"??

[nocturne lantern]

Cool cool

[nocturne lantern]

Oh sorry that doesn't work yet, it does nothing
It's just that I forgot to remove the enterable toggle before building

[rotund grove]

oh ok

thanks

[nocturne lantern]

Eventually it'd just make it so you can connect two pipes with the same name so they warp you

[smoky raptor]

I Think It's A "Keycode", (Pipes With The Same keycodes Would Connect)
But Ye What Vic Said Above

[rotund grove]

also

how do you access the levels you played?

oh nvm

[nocturne lantern]

Like the history of levels you've downloaded? Not possible rn

They don't get saved

[smoky raptor]

I Don't Understand The Save Locally Option

[rotund grove]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh they're here

and me who thought I lost them forever

[smoky raptor]

Doesn't Seem To Do Anything

[nocturne lantern]

I'm confused

[nocturne lantern]

That's literally just where the levels you create get saved when you click save

[smoky raptor]

We All Are Really

[nocturne lantern]

I thought I made the "Open" button obvious enough

[rotund grove]

well

I gtg

[nocturne lantern]

If anyone guesses what the file extension stands for I'll bake a cookie and eat it

[smoky raptor]

Would The Save Locally Button Also Put Them There?

[nocturne lantern]

That's the only button that puts them there

[smoky raptor]

ah
Also Where is This

Menu

[nocturne lantern]

Build level → input title → click Save (no popup because mb) → OK! → click Open to see what you've created

[azure quail]

Vic's Super Mod-

[smoky raptor]

couldn't be... vsmaker......

[nocturne lantern]

Levels also get saved automatically to your pc when

• Playtesting
• Uploading

Wrong... (Almost)

It's fine, I promise the UI/UX will be finished by v1.0

[smoky raptor]

Seems A Lil Odd it Saves During Playtesting...
It Would Be Cool If The Editor Had A Few Settings Like That
Suggestions ‼️

[nocturne lantern]

It saves under the name "WIP level", just in case

Or any other title you entered

[smoky raptor]

ah Shoot

[nocturne lantern]

I was like, what if it crashes and oops! All progress lost

[smoky raptor]

Fair Enough
Would be Nice As An Option Cuz I Ain't TOO, Worried About Crashes
Especially If I Just Can Click Save locally if I'm Worried About That
I Would be More Worried About Organization...
unless You Separate The "Autosaves"

[nocturne lantern]

Ah, I understand

[smoky raptor]

autosaves could be A Better Feature 🤔

Then you Can Save Like The last 5 Autosaves Or Something Separately From The Main Finished Levels
And You Don't Need To Rely On Playtesting The level To Save As Well

ye that sounds pretty good

[nocturne lantern]

You don't need to rely on playtesting to save

Just click Save

But yeah auto-save setting is a great idea

[oak nest]

Would be nice to be able to select stuff and move them all together, as well as being able to control+Z

[smoky raptor]

I'm meaning Relying On Playtesting As An Safety Mechanism For if A Crash occurs

Not As A Way To manually Save

But ye

[nocturne lantern]

Ah

pls choice. which tile for 1x1 ice?

"fortress style" vs "snow style"

[shy belfry]

why IS there two different sets of ice block textures...

@nintendo lmk

[nocturne lantern]

the ones in w5 castle have different style (they're squarer and sharper) than the overworld's

i guess for consistent inconsistency

[azure quail]

Snow !

[smoky raptor]

whynot Both 🤔
Castle Ice, And Ground ice !!
if not prob 2...

[finite sandal]

I NEED DOWNLOAD also KKT MOD IS GOOD

download?

[raw bone]

btw me and viktor figured out you canstill emote (not a problem, PLEASEE keep it)

[woven fiber]

I think it was to make it consistent with the shape of the other castle ice cubes (and even then they shoulda made those look like the overworld one anyways, but I think they fit more the castle

[raw bone]

(speakint of mid-game)

[woven fiber]

I agree with this

[azure quail]

yeah i already figured out but i forgor to mention xd

[glacial olive]

#1289009524979535882 message

[nocturne lantern]

it's a feature i kept in

[woven fiber]

vcmi has too many qol features to be trashed away! (they weren’t trashed but u get what I mean)

[nocturne lantern]

idea: item to customize lighting... for example, nighttime sky or sunny pipes

also colorful simple blocks for decoration or arting

[smoky raptor]

Could We have A Orange Block? 🤔
To Complete The Set Ofc

[oak nest]

yes, yes and yes

[woven fiber]

YES

FLAME PIPES

NIGHT SKY

DARK CASTLE

[torpid zephyr]

black and white block goes hard

[rotund grove]

help why is my pipe burning

[nocturne lantern]

the burning of luigi

[oak nest]

sayan pipe

[fervent pilot]

funny

[shy belfry]

and now.. its time to go back..... to the dinosaur age

[knotty pewter]

Big issue vic

[honest ferry]

is your fridge running

[oak nest]

Alexis and I found a new issue

We were trying to play casinoluigi's coop level, but each time we would download it (didn't matter if I was hosting or he was) it would kick the other repeatedely
Though on the other's screen it says it got downloaded
I even managed to start the game at the moment he joined before he got kicked, and the level worked fine

I think it comes from that particular level, which could be too big for the game to properly handle (hacking protection?), because then we tried another level and nothing happened

I'll add that the host's ping would raise a lot

[honest ferry]

then run after it

lololololol

[honest ferry]

how big is said level

or what does it have in it

[knotty pewter]

Idk kinda big

not your regular desert map

[oak nest]

#1289009524979535882 message

[shy belfry]

might be certain objects triggering anticheat

[knotty pewter]

might be the 36 moving ceilings in it

[honest ferry]

yeah no that's a bit too much

[brisk crescent]

shhh this game doesn't have anti cheat...

[honest ferry]

dunno

this map sure is loaded with a bunch o crap

no wonder it gives issues like this

if i was the game i would refuse to load it correctly too

[nocturne lantern]

If the map contains any of the red "mariobros" platforms, the participants will get kicked

That's the item that causes the problem

Otherwise, it might be a high amount of items (the limit is hard limited in code, which I already raised for the next version)

[woven fiber]

im going to assume its the photon view ids right

in which case it could be the coins

[nocturne lantern]

oh, that's funny

there was an important detail missing about this bug, and it's that you get disconnected before starting the match, unlike with the mariobros platform bug

funny thing is, if i rejoin, i receive the level fine and i can play

i'm going to assume it's a problem with the pure girth of the data of the contents being sent, since it's a large (as in, many tiles and items) map

[raw bone]

aww

so i need to reduce the amount of ground and shit

[nocturne lantern]

well i mean, I need to fix this bug

[raw bone]

oh

[nocturne lantern]

and when the mod gets updated it'll magically work again because i'm not changing the level contents, rather how they're being read and interpreted by the game

[shy belfry]

bro needs compression on the levels /s

[nocturne lantern]

well, that's fun. i hope i don't have to change (too much?) the way i send data to the players now. looking at you, PUN

[nocturne lantern]

it's literally compressed everywhere except after it's been downloaded lol

[woven fiber]

theres something odd about that though

if u try to rejoin the lobby sometimes it kicks the player regardless

like, it redownloads the level

or something

and it doesnt even happen all the time cause it seems to be dependant on whos hosting

[raw bone]

btw, will there be horizontal moving crushers next version?

[nocturne lantern]

some version in the future, yes

i'd like to make them configurable and independent of each other

[rotund grove]

ngl I think that's okay, I can defenitivly fit enough levels there

[raw bone]

dude

thats ATLEAST 10 bytes

(my maths are strong)

[nocturne lantern]

you can fit around uhhhhh 12 million averagely-sized mvlo maker levels in that space

congrations

[raw bone]

alright, ive uploaded two versions of the map now, an optimized one (without the moving celling maze) and the original (here unoptimized) with the celling. idk if it were to work now, orrr

idk

[brisk crescent]

LMFAOOOOO

I remember one time i basically selected all of my Drive C's folders and tried to delet them thinking it would clean more storage after hard resetting my pc

amd it surprisingly worked lmao

[oak nest]

uhhh vic?

there's an invisible block there, he can't go through

[sick heart]

bro got denied 💀

[azure quail]

(Denied From What)

[sick heart]

entering

[azure quail]

ok

[sick heart]

YOU! Shall. Not. PASS!!

[oak nest]

you just need an edge

[sick heart]

whata re you doing

[oak nest]

just trying to find mechanics and bugs

I just invented a mushroom/mini mushroom filter

[sick heart]

interesting

I feel like this gives me free will torward building kaizo

if you ask, yes, i am borderline psychotic when it comes to MvL parkour

or custom maps that go for platforming

[oak nest]

So am i

I'm waiting for spikes to get added

and i'm preparing a few interresting puzzle levels

[sick heart]

can you give me a link to the editor thing?

sorry

[fervent pilot]

stuck

[sick heart]

i just saw ipod in a vc for .1 seconds no way

i havent seen that in what feels like decades

[honest ferry]

if you feel decades is what it was from the time he showed beach in 1.8 then you must feel 700 years old

[sick heart]

wow this is random but i found a technique that with my pc unzips things that would take 40 mins in 8 seconds lmao

[sick heart]

yea basically

that was the last time

and a monitor next to me just turned on by itself

[nocturne lantern]

you can get the mod here: #1289009524979535882 message

[shy belfry]

wrong, you can get it through the pin

[oak nest]

@nocturne lantern take a look at this

[nocturne lantern]

noted

[oak nest]

didn't answer to this, it's not that

[nocturne lantern]

dw, i already figured out the source 👍

[smoky raptor]

oh wait this bug

This Gooffy Lil Bug

[brisk crescent]

i deadass thought you pinned foxyyy's message

[honest ferry]

👽

what

[fervent pilot]

gues wha

[fervent pilot]

why is it broken?

[honest ferry]

define broken

[fervent pilot]

why cannot it load the stage

oh shit i get it now

[brisk crescent]

It's when you press the brakes

[honest ferry]

i regret looking the definition of broken

eugh..

[nocturne lantern]

What was it?

Did it just need a reboot?

[woven fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295509846296367190/1318774653044527164/Super_MvLO_Maker_Player_2024-12-17_14-14-50.mp4?ex=67638c1a&is=67623a9a&hm=70979d0fd63bcb59cf3f33a2ec8c9afe2614fab4078477409fef86ad1bae8696& dude i swear whats with the damn player physics being so sticky 😭🙏

[honest ferry]

...i dont know what i expected people to make...

[woven fiber]

sumo maps!

they fun

i

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295509846296367190/1318775242402824212/Super_MvLO_Maker_Player_2024-12-17_16-56-49.mp4?ex=67638ca7&is=67623b27&hm=561666fb379ca061457951bc9b39cec80765eb6aeafd479da04d074e86dc9133&

[honest ferry]

i don't see it

never liked those...

[honest ferry]

and why are there two maps that are literally the same thing...

[woven fiber]

that one is a fixed version cause u cant edit uploaded levels :alien

[honest ferry]

what does it even fix

[smoky raptor]

You Can Delete uploaded Levels Tho

[woven fiber]

u see that semisolid spam on the walls?
its so that some stars that end up on the sides can be re-obtainable by making them just re enter the stage

[woven fiber]

fair

tho i think if its atleast a different name then its fine imo

[honest ferry]

hm

[smoky raptor]

I'm So Smartz

[honest ferry]

at least you know how to make them slightly better

[smoky raptor]

IDk Why I Never used it Tho

[woven fiber]

it was TURNIP who made that first 😭

[woven fiber]

i didnt make that map!

but i made a sumo hehe

hi foxy

[honest ferry]

good for you i guess

[woven fiber]

hi turnip

[honest ferry]

dotmod still finds its way back...

[smoky raptor]

no hi's
Eats Discord memory

[smoky raptor]

Like Everything Does........

[honest ferry]

some things deserve it

and you already know what i mean by that

[smoky raptor]

You Never Know...
There Could Be A Doezon Revivals Around The Corner...

[honest ferry]

god no

[woven fiber]

frosted:

battle r:

maybe 10p:

fboc:

kkt:

[honest ferry]

he himself said absolutely dead

why would he bring back dotmod out of a sudden

completely gone, not redistribuitable

i sadly doubt 10p comes back..

and still why do you even talk about that

[knotty pewter]

When it loads infinitely, it's due to 2 items crossing each other (f.e. pipes or mushroom platforms)
You can't make them overlap each other by only placing, but by adjusting height.

[oak nest]

Yes I did see that, indeed very smart

These sumo maps are quite fun, but you can abuse too much if the side walls for me

*of

[knotty pewter]

I was tempted to say skill issue, but you still beat me in these

[oak nest]

🤝
Gg

[nocturne lantern]

I wonder if I should release 1 update in a few days with both new features and bug fixes; OR 2 updates: one today with the new items and tiles, and another in a couple of days with some major bug fixes
I'd like the early access stage of this mod to have quick builds and updates to make the playtesting process faster, but I don't want to "overwhelm" ppl

[smoky raptor]

I Feel The 1 Update Option is better

[oak nest]

Not sure how you can overwhelm people, I personally am only excited

I'd say 2 updates is better, so you already get bug reports and opinions so the bug fixes update is more complete

[oak nest]

Bug report:
1 by 1 (2 by 1 and 1 by 2 too) moving plateform doesn't render properly

Also it would be nice having a confirmation popup when uploading, I noticed I missclicked and published a level by accident yesterday

[finite sandal]

Wheres download @nocturne lantern

[glacial olive]

in pins

[finite sandal]

no for linux

atlease you can extract zips on chromebook

[grim marten]

linux build isnt out yet

[nocturne lantern]

Linux users can use Wine to play it with zero drawbacks

[shy belfry]

@nocturne lantern im curious how you're sending the level over the network

is it just

level binary -> compress to hell -> send to player(s) via RPCs -> uncompress -> apply
```?

[finite sandal]

im in crostini linux

[nocturne lantern]

i hope you don't kill me but it's just
host downloads level -> send to other players by raising event

[shy belfry]

amazing

tbh thats fine

an rpc is just an event with extra steps lol

[nocturne lantern]

sweet

[shy belfry]

1.8 would be even easier

you can put the level as an array of tiles (or even in your binary format) into the "Frame"

and then just make a command that uploads the level

allow the host to call that command

and boom, it replicates for everyone, even automatically for late joiners

[woven fiber]

how is new 1.8 code that good 🏚️

[brisk crescent]

Note it's still unfinished

[woven fiber]

that

praises it even more

it’s unfinished and it’s already delightfully good!

[shy belfry]

by not using a multiplayer system made before 2012

[nocturne lantern]

jresus christ

also alternative terrain/autotiles such as desert semisolids and ice are now avaialbelabeale!

(works on any theme)

the semis can get a little janked up at times, either try redrawing until it looks OK or avoid making complex shapes out of them. this is just because i don't have enough tiles drawn for it for the inner corners, etc

or, ugh, i could try spending some time manually drawing the missing inner corner tiles to add them to the autotiler

[oak nest]

oh wait
that means you can't have multiple on top of each other?

Maybe would've been more practical to make them like the moving plateform, you choose the width and height and that's all

[woven fiber]

could maybe be able to set a layer for them or smt

-# or I could draw a corner tile hehe

[woven fiber]

I’d imagine u could just have an int to be the layer in the editor and it sets it ingame

[nocturne lantern]

well, the background layer is a thing that exists already

and you can't see things behind another so

[shy belfry]

isnt the background layer darker tho

[nocturne lantern]

i'll just draw a corner piece and it'll fix it

[shy belfry]

@nocturne lantern make these platforms objects, imo.

[nocturne lantern]

yyyeah i guess so. it's also completely passthru

[nocturne lantern]

thing is, you also can't overlap items

[shy belfry]

and then put each semisolid on a different Z index

oh?

then allow overlaps for these

:)

[nocturne lantern]

aw

fine

i'll solve this next time

[shy belfry]

like smm2s semisolids

[woven fiber]

actually wait @nocturne lantern wouldn’t it be easier to make these be items instead of tiles

like how u did with the mushroom platfs

that would likely allow u to change the ‘Order in layer’ thing for sprites easier too

[nocturne lantern]

item z ordering is very unreliable rn anyway, like you can't really "bring" something to the front or whatever
i'll first have to implement that before finalizing the semisolids as items idea

but yea

[woven fiber]

fair

[nocturne lantern]

paso a paso

[shy belfry]

oh also true

yeah.. how would you handle that lol

sort by increasing Y value of the top?

like

[woven fiber]

@nocturne lantern u can use these if u wan

[oak nest]

oh damn I forgot we don't have bob-bombs yet

[nocturne lantern]

thx

[nocturne lantern]

i'll add a shortcut to bring an item either to the front or to the back. something like an alternative to the tiles' "BG layer" toggle

[fervent pilot]

i was trying to put the bg tiles on the non bg tiles woops

[nocturne lantern]

oh so clean

[fervent pilot]

when trying something literally goes wrong in the worst possible way
literally accidentally uploads twice when deleting everything

god i love when that happens

like im trying to suffer right now more than ever

[rotund grove]

"Oh noo why doesn't it want to boot up >:O"

[woven fiber]

if u dont mind could we get alternate colors of these 🥺....

[brisk crescent]

That was when i decided to delete sytesm 32

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[rotund grove]

no wonder why your name is Windows 10

I mean

how much do you know about windows

Yknow what

I'm gonna ask you a question

[brisk crescent]

only the basics of how to use a computer

[rotund grove]

to see if you're worthy

to use Windows in your username

[brisk crescent]

Nobody here can ever guess why is my username that lmao

NOT MVLO MAKER RELATED GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[rotund grove]

aw 😦

[shy belfry]

what about 1x1s of these semisolids

or 2x1

or 1x2

[woven fiber]

kinda like

[shy belfry]

the humble stoplight

[woven fiber]

LMFAO 😭

[fervent pilot]

i kinda want the minimap to be added for editor so it be easier to place spawns in chosen spots

for example

the middle

[brisk crescent]

What is that 👽

[fervent pilot]

do i even have to explain

[brisk crescent]

That level is so confusing

[fervent pilot]

thats because it is

[woven fiber]

oo that could be neat

tho theres already a display of the level bounds by just looking at the grid so im not sure it would make too much of a difference

wouldnt hurt to add though

[fervent pilot]

counting would be hell

[woven fiber]

i meant u can just look at the general area and place it there

no need to count lol...

[nocturne lantern]

Yeah it doesn't have to be exact because the level loops anyway

BUT the minimap idea is great

[honest ferry]

and it's good because that's on smm

[nocturne lantern]

Anyway new public playtesting build after I eat dinner

[fervent pilot]

holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fervent pilot]

how about pipes for the bg idea?

it would leave very cool details

[shy belfry]

let him cook.... literally....

[honest ferry]

let him eat... hunger....

[fervent pilot]

im very hungry

[faint gate]

hi vic

[nocturne lantern]

user join sfx jumpscare

[fervent pilot]

why cant i spawn?

[nocturne lantern]

Super MvLO Maker just got updated! This is Public Playtesting build #2

Changelog:

• Many NEW blocks and decorations, including spikes, ice, semisolids and bobombs!
• Mini Pipes can now be coloured. You can also add piranha plants to big Pipes, but it doesn't work; oops.
• You can now VOTE if you liked a stage, and leave a comment after playing it!
• Some more fixes.
  Please get it here: #1289009524979535882 message or in the pinned message.

[oak nest]

OHHHH

[woven fiber]

we're so up holy

[nocturne lantern]

in the following days i'll have the level browser sort by "heat", which is a combination of like ratio and recency

in the meantime vote away! and don't forget many features are still WIP. i'm all ears for bug reports and allat

[oak nest]

We have Netherite blocks now xD

[oak nest]

uhh maybe you already know since i found it in your level, but if you put ice and the orange bumpy thing next to each other you can't go past the bumpy thingy

[nocturne lantern]

i actually hand't noticed

[woven fiber]

i think i remember seeing this bug somewhere before..

not with just ice

and not in mvlo maker either

btw i'll try the update once im done eating dinner, changelog looks interesting

great job vic 🙏

[nocturne lantern]

i actually can't find the bug

ohh it's only if you crouch (*sometimes)

NOTE: if you go and try sharing your Opinion on a level, it'll sometimes say "404" before you get to write anything. Pls ignore that, it causes no harm

[oak nest]

I'm very satisfied with the spikes

you also added some more background stuff, it's really nice

[fervent pilot]

has the editor updated

[nocturne lantern]

maybe

(yes)

[oak nest]

tthe spikes are misplaced somehow

more

[nocturne lantern]

really????

[rich leaf]

ye

[nocturne lantern]

wrong offset i guess

uhhh super quick hotfix time i suppose

[oak nest]

also when I load my map it kicks people out
but atleast now they can come back and it works normally

[faint gate]

prob your map is big

[fervent pilot]

[nocturne lantern]

yeah, same problem others have explained earlier. just didn't fix a lot this release, i wanted to reserve that for another day to not delay the new content

OK! i fixed it, so sorry for the inconvenience. pls redownload from the same link above when you can @oak nest

also, if you upload that map you made that disconnects people, can you tell me its name so I can troubleshoot it too? thx

[oak nest]

alright

[oak nest]

nice!

[faint gate]

vic changed the popup test les gooo

[fervent pilot]

do i have to redownload editor?

[nocturne lantern]

you can find version 0.2 in the pinned msgs

idk if you already downloaded that today

if not, go ahead and grab it from the google drive link

[fervent pilot]

about this

[nocturne lantern]

no, no need to touch that

just download the mod from the link and extract to a new folder
you can delete the old one entirely

[oak nest]

@nocturne lantern my mini pipes are just not where I placed them

maybe it's because i entered a warp pipe location?

I typed "pipe" in it, maybe it breaks something?

no they just don't work for me

[nocturne lantern]

misaligned too probably?

anyway i can't wait for the kaizo maps these following days... to play them!

[fervent pilot]

entering pipes doesnt work

[nocturne lantern]

not yet implemented

[fervent pilot]

wait

oh

[oak nest]

neat

I'm not sure what causes this bug, it just deletes everything in a single collumn
I fixed it, but now it's back

And now that I think about it, I saw it in another level
@nocturne lantern (sorry for pinging you again)

my level is very big

the other level in question is Wega's walljump stage I believe

[nocturne lantern]

NOTE: after a match, a "Do you wanna share your opinion on this level?" kind of message should appear so it's easy to cast a vote. however, if you aren't host, there's a high chance it won't appear for you due to a bug. just in case you were wondering how the hell to comment on a level

you can still go and open the Editor and manually searching for a level to post an opinion on, though

[woven fiber]

this happens in coop castle too i think

is your level's wdith an odd number?

cause odd numbers cause bugs (namely a teleport when u go to the looping bounds, idk any other issues other than that tho)

[smoky raptor]

Time To make A Netherite Beacon

[nocturne lantern]

Now that we have a new version with a lot of new content, maybe I can now spend some time polishing and finishing the UI to the max...

Hmm..

[woven fiber]

mvsdk2 ui is so yummers

[oak nest]

I believe I put the max width and height, so 260 x 40 I think

This bug is quite annoying

[raw bone]

i fixed this in co op castle by filling that columm with bullet bills.

[raw bone]

wegas wall stage and co op castle have both been updated now with spikes added + for co-op castle gray blocks have been corrected!

[nocturne lantern]

just played the new wall stage, very fun

[oak nest]

Uhhh
Surely it works but I'd be unsatisfied

Why does it happen in the first place

[nocturne lantern]

Idk, I've never encountered it so I can't say

[knotty pewter]

Are you advertising your level right now

[knotty pewter]

I don't know if it's a feature or not, but spikes hurt even when put in the background. Also they'll always be put in the foreground.

[rotund grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-gif-26837418

[nocturne lantern]

Oh nice

[lament abyss]

where are the maps saved,,,,,,,

i cant find them in any folder,,,

[glacial olive]

i think it's %AppData%\Godot\app_userdata\Super MvLO Maker [Editor]

[fervent pilot]

its the appdata

[nocturne lantern]

To load them you can use the Open button in the level editor. but yeah the actual files are in the AppData patch CST said

[fervent pilot]

i figured it out in the first place

[nocturne lantern]

I was replying to the person who asked for help

[oak nest]

I have more info on this

From my testing, it happens when you save the level

my map is 260x45, and the bug appears at the collumn 129

[nocturne lantern]

oh wow

yeah, i can reproduce it. no matter the length, that single column always becomes empty of tiles

wtf?

[woven fiber]

i've never made a map that long and cant remember if i've seen one THAT long in vanilla mvlo, so not sure if its something already in vanilla or a weird thing in smvlom

[nocturne lantern]

it's not related to vanilla, the bug is editor exclusive

[faint gate]

not related but do you remember old bonus madness from 10p :alien

[woven fiber]

oh 😭

that was like 235 tiles long

[oak nest]

Oh man
I would need an invisible block that doesn't give coins, would that be even possible?

Also, that bug that repeatedly kicks you is still present

[fervent pilot]

yeah

oh i have an idea

remove enterable part of a pipe when connected to 2 blocks?

you can make a change with it if youd like

hold on the fuck

[nocturne lantern]

sooo... column 128 gets invalidated

which is a magic number in computers
it MIGHT be a bug in the encoding library i used...

[violet mist]

baby

[fervent pilot]

yes

dafaq

damn dont you hate it when that happens

im kind of fucking annoyed by taht

[nocturne lantern]

either try putting the pillars in the bg or ignore it and upload it as it is until the next version when it'll get fixed for everyone