[v3.1] MvL Accurate

[scenic raven]

Also in exactly 7 days time, this mod will be officially 5 months old..... It's really crazy to think that this much time has passed ngl

[brittle sail]

Nice

[dire steppe]

oooo sick, wish u the best of luck

[scenic raven]

New Pause Menu

[modest bough]

Can You make it A Tad Transparent?

IDK Why Nintendo Make it Transparent In The Map not In The Levels

[dire steppe]

wait it was transparent in the map?

[dire steppe]

also grassland bg fix 🔥

make sure you're utilizing integer scale numbers tho, or else the background will be very shaky with ds resolution

[scenic raven]

wym by that?

[dire steppe]

make the scale not be decimals

[modest bough]

why yes member?

[scenic raven]

what about the x and y position?

[dire steppe]

i think that doesnt matter

[scenic raven]

scale is a whole number but x and y have decimals

[dire steppe]

yea im pretty sure the poision doesnt matter, only the scale

[modest bough]

to be safe, make the position even

[scenic raven]

2D ENEMIES RETURNS to accuracyMOD (only if you Toggle 3D off)

[dire steppe]

ds resolution my beloved

[scenic raven]

is the 3D really all that bad though?

[modest bough]

no

[dire steppe]

no

infact maybe better than 2d

they're more smooth than the sprites and look better too

[scenic raven]

I might end up just making a toggle in the main menu for it TBH

also it only applies to goomba/koopa btw

[dire steppe]

what about bob...

[scenic raven]

they are 3d

in OG

[terse cobalt]

it will be a good idea make a toggle about change the enemies to 2d or 3d

it will be only visual yk

or maybe for powerups too (idk if that is possible, i doubt it)

[scenic raven]

no powerups toggle

[terse cobalt]

a

:sob

[inner temple]

But the nds resolution already changes them from looking 3d/hd to the sprite look of nsmb

Doesn't it?

Although maybe it's inaccurate...

[scenic raven]

Goomba and MAINLY koopas still look completely different from OG. Making it innacurate.

I have made a toggle for it in the main menu however, so you can still have 3D if you desire and it will be enabled by default

[scenic raven]

update:

#mvl-development-and-modding message

[scenic raven]

e3 beta sneek peek

(accurate starman effect, accurate groundpound, accurate animation, accurate tornado sfx)

[dire steppe]

truly accuracy

[modest bough]

Epic

[scenic raven]

is there any other accuracy feature you guys would like in accuracy 2.2? It is a big update

[dire steppe]

i would say new maps but there are only 5 in the og so.....

[frozen patrol]

Redesign the whole menu so it looks like the og

[scenic raven]

that is an idea I thought of too

I want it to look less like IPOD

[inner temple]

Yeah I can see that working

[modest bough]

hmmmmmmmmm

Have You Added GroundPounding Something With A Mini launches Your Further in The Air Yet?

[dire steppe]

whats with you and that thing 🥹,,,,,

[modest bough]

What I Like Extra Small Mechanics With Stuff

That Are Barely Useful, But Are Fun

I Was Also Informed That It Was Slightly Easier To Triple Jump With A Blue Shell In Og, You Should Do That Too If Ya Haven't

[scenic raven]

wym by that?

[modest bough]

Like, Groundpounding Something As Mini Mario,

Which Hits It

Launches You Higher Than Normal

[dire steppe]

like when u gp a koopa

instead of just a lil bounce u go real high

[modest bough]

yeye

It's Not Much Useful And Very Situational But Still Fun.
In The OG I Used It To Get Into The Chambers That The Broozers Were In In That One underground Level With The Red blocks At The End.

[stray prairie]

idk if this is in already but i’m playing the og rn and you can’t crouch while mini

[scenic raven]

This is in 2.2 already

In the "Remastered" branch if u wanna try it early

[scenic raven]

New Accuracy powerup transition and 2d enemies (yes the shell is still 3d )

[scenic raven]

Only reason for this would be the small possibility of ipod merging some features into the base game in the future tbh

[stone needle]

Just be careful tho

Some mechanics you added to accuracy mod are already in 1.8

For example the bounce off the enemy after stomping them

[modest bough]

I Think You Should Wait until it Releases

[scenic raven]

I am well aware of that,

a BUNCH of things are from 1.8

HandleStarman is a fix I did to make it not lose speed when colliding with other players (this is alerady in 1.8)

powerups coming out of a block and stuff is also 1.8

implementation is different in both cases which could cause issues

but anyways... ill focus on releasing 2.2 first..

I might just instead manually port some stuff to 1.8 later (for PR and stuff), but prob not the whole mod

[stone needle]

@scenic raven Actually, just try 1.8 port once it's out, there is no point make a 1.8 port when it's not even released and you will never know when it's out.
So just keep making updates for 1.7.1.0 until 1.8 is out.

[stone needle]

@scenic raven Walljumping doesn't have a custom animation, it's just the jumping and falling one

[scenic raven]

As you all have noticed I havent shared much progress in the last 3 weeks.

And well, I havent worked much on the project since then. But I do still wanna release 2.2 soon

And tbh, it might be the last update feature-wise. But considering that 2.2 changes A lot, I might release 2.2 as a series of beta versions (for example 2.2 beta1) and fix bugs with time

[scenic raven]

.

You mean in E3? You are probably right, I believe those animations played if you held a specific direction while jumping

[scenic raven]

I dont think 1.8 port is a good idea unless ipod decides to merge parts of my code, which is unlikely given how hacky my implementatioms are (what even are the benefits of 1.8 anyways??)

[modest bough]

ooo,
Dough,
Welp

[stone needle]

True

The ideas are good but the results are just

y know

[stone needle]

In NSMB too

[stone needle]

Power up animation:

But if ipod doesn't do that then make a pull request if you can

might get accepted

[stone needle]

@scenic raven You probably already know about this, but star's rotation speed and bounce height are different in OG MvL

So in the Big Star's prefab, change the Rotation Speed to 3, and Bounce Amount to 5.5

Also, there are no star radius in original MvL

Which means that you don't need a minimum distance to make it spawn

So do what @modest bough says here

But instead of setting it to 2, set it to 0, which i believe will 'remove' the radius

[stone needle]

Actually, try with 6

if it seems to be a bit too high then keep 5.5

[dire steppe]

@scenic raven i was actually thinking, since you limited the options to be the ones in the og game, what if you make the gameoptions ui exactly like in the og game?

it had the label, then the numer box with the arrows on the side to change it

making it a text field would be weird because its too limited to really type anything

i think for the map dropdown u could also use the preview sprites like in the og aswell, by making it work like the color palettes

[stone needle]

btw it works better with 6

[supple hazel]

why is there no punching in e3 mode

https://youtu.be/Jyc3yoS-SQo

u can see in this video that mario can punch as well as kick

i assume it would work the same way as mario 64, there is an attack button, pressing it gives u punch, but if u press it while you are already holding jump, u get a kick

also idk if there is any footage of it but it doesnt make sense to me that you cant punch and kick while you have fire flower and shell

the kick adds so much to the game it would be much more fun if it was allowed with shell and flower, perhaps give it its own button

punch probably has its own button based on this video, i dont see how it is incompatable with fireball

also it seems like mega mario could get HELLA momentum like star mario

also seems like u could have 3 reserve items

[supple hazel]

its supposed to have rollback netcode i heard

huge for 1v1s especially

u wont get stomped from a tile away anymore

blue shell is no longer complete jank to use and fight against if they fix netcode

[stone needle]

It was host based and it didn't work well with players with bad ping/webGL

so it had to changed again

[modest bough]

They Couldn't Get The Punching Animation :P

[frozen patrol]

punch looks like it sucks with how slow it is

[frozen patrol]

do you wanna see a speedy mega

cuz i dont

[scenic raven]

Punching animation is not in mvlO

Unless someone wanna add it for me it isnt happening realistically

[terse cobalt]

hey erick i think the tornado in E3 desert should push you in differents directions and altitude

bc in a single direction you have like a 90% of change of get groundponded and thats kinda... not so good

[terse cobalt]

idk if that was already on the e3 about the single direction

but yeah just a suggestion about the tornado 🥹

[stone needle]

@scenic raven piranha plant IS a 3d model in the original game

so i guess you can leave it as a 3d model

[modest bough]

Why...
What

[stone needle]

Because

That's how Nintendo made it

[modest bough]

Like Uh,

[cobalt kindle]

both of you die

[modest bough]

Why Did You Ping Him For Something He Already Did Tho 🥹

[modest bough]

I Send you To The upsidown Relm

[stone needle]

I'm 100% sure he said that enemies will be back to being 2d sprites

in the next update

[cobalt kindle]

YAAAAY

1.8 should have 3D piranha

[stone needle]

I think it's declined already

[scenic raven]

So yea,

Development for this mod was paused at the end of 2.2 release

A lot of stuff happened since I last worked on it. And have even less time to work on it.

However, 2.2 WILL be released soon.

It is pretty much in its bugfix phase

[stone needle]

Okay

Also hello
nice to see you again

[scenic raven]

Thanks

[modest bough]

oh yipi!

[dire steppe]

welcome back erick!

[frank prism]

hi back erick

[misty night]

hi erick

welcome back

[brittle sail]

Jello Erick :)

[rich summit]

I should pr some sound related stuff, as iirc Accuracy doesnt have all hq sfxs

Also hi welcome back

[zinc flame]

I can no longer do anything with the mod tho, I do not have the disk space for Unity

[scenic raven]

Im pretty sure the remastered branch already has high quality rips and even an option to use MIDIs iirc

[rich summit]

Like some stuff is prob missing like 1.8 did

I can check tomorrow

[stone needle]

Lust when everyone uses sound mod: 😇
Lust when i use sound mod: 👹

[misty night]

hey erick

[brisk ruin]

@scenic raven You still need an iOS port?

[scenic raven]

Yeah, lemme just finish 2.2 first

[scenic raven]

Hey gabriel

[misty night]

is 2.2 gonna released?

[stone needle]

@misty night

[misty night]

erick is everything ok?

[brittle sail]

Huh

[frozen patrol]

True accuracy

[stone needle]

the real accuracy mod

[dire steppe]

100% accuracy

[inner temple]

3DS 😔 not 100% accurate 😔 bad quality upscaled screen ☹️👎

[rich summit]

Luigi as Player 1?!?!?

[frozen patrol]

i see no upscaling?

[inner temple]

The 3ds got a higher res screen so it upscales the ds games into a blurry mess by default

[dire steppe]

i thought it lead to mixels instead of blurriness though

btw i think the size is normal since there seems to be black borders... i think..

or atleast for the top screen, dunno about the bottom screen

[frozen patrol]

if its same size on both screens then it normal

[inner temple]

I'm not talking about the stretching, but the bilinear upscale (can't be appreciated in that picture) that the 3ds applies for nds games to fill the screen

But I digress

[polar gorge]

playing with one cartridge lets you do that.

[rich summit]

ik, but its super illegal to do that

[polar gorge]

nuhhuh

[scenic raven]

For those curious.

AccuracyMod 2.2 did not get any progress done since I was last active here.

HOWEVER. The update itself is already completed feature-wise, all that is really left to do is bug-fixes

If you dont wanna wait, you can check out its current state inside the "remastered" branch

[stone needle]

Can i compile and build the branch?

What about re-distribution?

[scenic raven]

Wym?

[scenic raven]

Yea sure

[stone needle]

Give others the build i made

[scenic raven]

Also

Its been over a year since Accuracy1.0 got released🥳

Time flies

[dire steppe]

happy anniversary accuracy mod ‼️

[modest bough]

Wacky
-# 🎉

[scenic raven]

So much has been added in 2.2 that i feel like it should be released asap.

Does 2.1 have a toggle for enabling/disabling 3d enemies?

I dont rlly remember lol

[misty night]

erick

check out the dms

[misty night]

well erick you didnt check out the dms
but heres the ui for the beta e3 mode

[inner temple]

damn, more stealing from vcmi?
that ui.png sheet is straight from there, i drew a bunch of those icons

[misty night]

but whats wrong?

[stone needle]

I saw the team colors and i thought ipod made the device/webgl detectors for 1.8 😭

[inner temple]

that sheet is, apart from some numbers, taken directly from vcmi

[stone needle]

• Those aren't even beta e3 stuff to begin with

[inner temple]

like, vanilla's assets are right there, why go out of the way to take stuff from another mod without even asking?

[misty night]

i am not patient

[onyx haven]

be then

[tawny reef]

taken directly from vanilla smh

[inner temple]

What a hypocrite I am huh

[scenic raven]

so

finally got proper 2d, 3d enemy switching. No more 3d koopa shells in 2d mode

finally got myself working on this project again

[misty night]

hey erick are you afk?

[scenic raven]

Im here

[misty night]

the beta e3 track

[hearty nest]

this game is updating

[scenic raven]

👀

[modest bough]

👀

[frozen patrol]

curse of vic

[stone needle]

No wonder why the buzzy beetle looks scared

[inner temple]

excuse you, the buzzy beetle is very calm and sleeping

[inner temple]

-# 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔

[frozen patrol]

it shat itself

[frozen patrol]

vic turned windows and me into pears

why are you so mean!

[onyx haven]

_ _

[scenic raven]

worst thing about working on my mod 1 year later is that I have to re-learn how I initially coded stuff

[frozen patrol]

fax

[scenic raven]

like....

i spent longer than I'd like to admit to find where my death transitions were located in the code

turns out that there are pieces of that code on FadeOutManager, GameManager, PlayerController AND PlayerAnimationController

[frozen patrol]

i prefered not to touch my mod for a good while because i forgot how to add tiles 💥

[inner temple]

FadeOutManager
that rings a bell

[frozen patrol]

ring ring or dingdingdingding

[inner temple]

more like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding... ding-ding ding
https://github.com/Wiiucoop/NSMB-MarioVsLuigi-Accurate/blob/Accuracy%2B/Assets/Scripts/UI/FadeOutManager.cs
https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/blob/vcmi-17-stable/Assets/Scripts/UI/FadeOutManager.cs

[frozen patrol]

what about it :simple_glare:

[inner temple]

it's exactly the same script i used to use in vcmi!

despicable me 4

[frozen patrol]

you're erick high definition?

[inner temple]

but it's just part of cleansed now so it's fine

just found it funny https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1329159242610901075.webp?size=48&name=shuhs

[scenic raven]

I even asked your help on it back then lol.

I just changed some animations slightly to add the pipe transitions that was incomplete

[scenic raven]

also, my current branch is REMASTERED and no accuracy+

I will have to merge it all back on accuracy+ but yea

[inner temple]

yea i remember the 3d models but my memory's going bad

[scenic raven]

I just kept getting so many ideas ngl

MIDI music, 3D, fade transitions

[inner temple]

working for a better world
or, a more accurate mvl

[scenic raven]

also why does this have fadetime and blacktime? they... dont do anything

lol

[inner temple]

i think i had plans for extra functionality (like arbitrary speed/waiting time) but i concluded i didn't need that so never got around to a) finishing it, or b) properly removing unused code

[scenic raven]

Pipe Transitions.... and its just the yellow pipes

[frozen patrol]

the only reason i get to dislike pipes is because of being hit when coming out of one and how stars get lost when going through this part

[modest bough]

-# And We Love That 1.8 Fixes That Star Issue

-# 🦃

[frozen patrol]

how so

[modest bough]

Can't Find The Clip but They Get Pushed Back in Bounds If They Hit The Border of The Screen

[frozen patrol]

oh

wow

[scenic raven]

4by3 HUD

I still have to get the scaling right for other resolutions

[frozen patrol]

mario is not doing good rn

[scenic raven]

I just added 1.8 particles. So that should now be WAY more accurate

[rich summit]

Yay Yippie

[misty night]

hey erick

[scenic raven]

heyy

[misty night]

give me the sprite of the mega mushroom e3 mode

i need this to put on my thumbails

[scenic raven]

I am not at home yet. But I can send it asap

[misty night]

send me in dms pls

[hearty nest]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-8-shroomers-mario-kart-mushroom-mega-gif-13289063850156900756

[misty night]

holy mega

[scenic raven]

Cant believe there was no spawning animation up until now, I finally have one now😃😃😃😃

[tawny reef]

now port it to 1.8 and PR it

[scenic raven]

👀

[tawny reef]

oh the pipe works nice!

i thought it was just the UI fade-in / zoom haha

[tawny reef]

what do you use for the pipe?

multiple images of a growing pipe?

it seems a little... jagged...

[modest bough]

I Remember Him Saying That The Code Is Really Old And Janky...

[scenic raven]

It was the first ever thing I added to accuracymod

Back in 2022 before it was even public

[scenic raven]

Only reason I never ported it to 1.8 yet is that literally everything about it is weird.

It literally spawns at mario's regular spawnpoint and snaps to the ground with gravity=99999 (frame 1 of the pipe animation is blank so players dont notice this)

[dire steppe]

tbh the way i imagined it working would be using the sliced spriet renderer mode and just increase the tile height till a certain point

[inner temple]

my vision was just a sprite which had its vertical position animated or tweened upwards lol

[modest bough]

1.8 is Def SUPER Weird...
But It's So much Better Once You Get Used To It 🥰

[tawny reef]

this is what i was going to recommend

[scenic raven]

Im saying that my pipe spawns are weird not 1.8

[tawny reef]

@scenic raven when you spawn the object, you can do a Physics2D.Raycast downwards at the spawn location and set the pipe's position immediately

no need for a physics body / gravity

[frozen patrol]

both.

[scenic raven]

thanks!, Now they use Raycast.

and pipe sprites are more accurate

[vernal pivot]

can we see the pipe animation now

[scenic raven]

if I get this to work it will be huge

[terse cobalt]

amazing

hey its just me or some of these icons are on bad quality?

[scenic raven]

already got it working

[scenic raven]

I got them from 1.8

but I believe they are this quality in the OG, so there isnt much I can do

[terse cobalt]

oh, ig its just a illusion cuz the scale

yeah i see

[scenic raven]

How it works right now

[scenic raven]

I really like where this is going

I am just a bit scared that I haven't tested player to player interactions in a while lol

[dire steppe]

omg yes accurate ui ✨

[scenic raven]

I am doing a lot of menu changes

[scenic raven]

EntryPipe now uses DOTween! Smooth animation and looks like the OG

[scenic raven]

Pipe entering in general now uses the IDLE animation instead of that weird pose ipod chose to use in 1.7

[tawny reef]

the pose is used for entering pipes

its just that they dont look towards the screen in the og game

[scenic raven]

Are you sure?

This screenshot is what it is supposed to look like.

Using "pipe" animation makes mario arms to be straight down. But using "idle" gives the same pose as the one in this picture.

[vernal pivot]

i think it uses the first frame of the idle animation

[scenic raven]

text is just a bit too big

[stone needle]

increase the text box's width!

[scenic raven]

Idk if Ipod's 1.8 will be renamed to 2.0.

But maybe I should rename accuracy 2.2 to 3.0? Lol

[stone needle]

makes more sense since it's a bigger update that finishes everything off

[scenic raven]

Opinions?

[stone needle]

How will 5+ players rooms work?

5 on the left 5 on the right?

[scenic raven]

for 2 player, I have one on each side

I never tried 3+

[stone needle]

Stick the odd players to the lefts first, nothing complicated

[terse cobalt]

i would recommend you to remove these shadows

also what if you try to add the shadow on the numbers?

[scenic raven]

I also need this "Choose Each Time" font, which is apparently different as mine looks off

[terse cobalt]

try to use the win text font that 1.8 uses

or well i think thats vic font...

[dire steppe]

it looks like the text is a more squished/resized version of that normal font

but im not sure theres any .ttf of it anywhere cause in the game its a graphic

[terse cobalt]

ig it is

[inner temple]

The one in the game looks hand drawn. It's pretty different from the normal, unsquished font

[scenic raven]

Right now all I will focus on is bugfixes before 3.0 release

I will try to release it asap

As I kinda wanna work on my other projects after 3.0

[tribal harness]

dude that's fire

[scenic raven]

Before release all I have to do is fix the knockback and some combos

Spawn pipe rework should be finalized and working properly

[stone needle]

Funnily enough, this mod makes a bunch of enemies and powerups 3D but mega mushroom

[dire steppe]

dont the powerups just use the reserve sprites tho instead of 3d models...

[scenic raven]

My powerups dont use 3d models at all

It uses edited reserve sprites instead

[stone needle]

No wonder why they look 3d...

[scenic raven]

REMOVED SLOPES in code

😃

Dont think sliding was even in the original

And tbh, I think 3.0 is pretty much release ready, unless Im forgetting something

[modest bough]

i mean...
mvl Didn't Use Slopes but Slopes Did Exist...

[scenic raven]

Thing is, slopes are very buggy in mvlo 1.7

So i wanna avoid that, as you can even slide off blocks in 1.7 if you crouch a certain way in a corner

[modest bough]

Kinda a slap on fix but idk how one would properly fix it regardless so :p

it works

[stone needle]

Slap the turnip!

[frozen patrol]

there's no slope hyperspeed now?

[tepid quiver]

you can slide in og mvl, but only works on rom hacks since there's no slopes in the levels

[frozen patrol]

this will hurt drastically the economy...

[tepid quiver]

also you can't slide on mushroom platforms in og nsmb

I actually had to add that behavior to the sky tileset in a mvl rom hack I made so it would be accurate to mvlo

[terse cobalt]

fair enough
as far i know theres no slopes in the mod itselfs

or well, technically there is slopes in e3 plains but bleh, innacurate 🦅

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/963182744702181436/1329904055895724062/caption.gif

[dire steppe]

the mushroom platfs in plains weren’t even supposed to be there lol
i think I added it because o people telling me to???

wait I worded that wrong

the slope collision in the mushrooms

[scenic raven]

It wasnt even intented for you to use it as slopes to begin with

[terse cobalt]

there was like a single pixel for do hyper speed in these mushrooms

[tepid quiver]

mushroom platforms arent even intended slopes

they're a mvlo 1.7 thing

not a nsmb/og mvl thing

[scenic raven]

☝️

[dire steppe]

how wonderful that you can now recreate the og's mushroom platforms in 1.8 😋

[scenic raven]

I dont have much time to test my mod for bugs tbh

I will release it as beta i think

[stone needle]

yeah
other folks will play and find the bugs

[scenic raven]

3.0 RELEASES SOON

[vernal pivot]

cant wait for it

[stone needle]

accurate

[scenic raven]

Just to update on you guys. 3.0 is ready, I just didnt have enough time yet to compile and release it

[stone needle]

Are you gonna compile now, then?

I could offer myself to do that for ya lol

[scenic raven]

I will sleep now. I can compile soon dont worry

I compile for

WebGl
Android
Windows
Linux
Mac

[stone needle]

WebGL

https://tenor.com/view/heart-attack-akhil-nrd-heatrbroken-heartattack-ayyo-gif-5233465303282586182

[scenic raven]

aaaannnnd

ACCURACY 3.0 RELEASED!

https://github.com/Wiiucoop/NSMB-MarioVsLuigi-Accurate/releases/tag/3.0-Accuracy

[3.0] MvL Accurate

Please do let me know of any bugs😃😃😃😃😃😃

[dire steppe]

awesome

[scenic raven]

Dont forget to star the github

[stone needle]

github is so stupid

anyways, 👀

[terse cobalt]

@scenic raven uhh this is just a lil detail but i just keep my color pallete

i think you didnt change anything related to the save files

[scenic raven]

I tried to force it to use default pallete always, but didnt really test it

[terse cobalt]

i see

it wouldnt be better to reset the save file changing the product name or the company name?

yk for avoid these lil issues

i dont know exactly how save files works soo uh yeah

[scenic raven]

They are in local app data

[terse cobalt]

a oops

btw walljumping has a missing particle

[scenic raven]

Its only on the right side isnt it?

[terse cobalt]

yeah on the right

[scenic raven]

I noticed that and had no idea on how to fix

I will look into it after I have more free time

[modest bough]

you could instead just have the game ignore the color pallets...
Then Folks Get To keep Their name And Controls 😎

[terse cobalt]

its NOT accurate rabo!

[terse cobalt]

ok me and turnip tried accuracy mod and we noticed that combos are kinda... broken (or they just doesnt work at all, prob cuz 1.7 netcode and stuff)
ok so the way how combos works here is fine, but some specific combos doesnt work at all
if you fire ball knockback someone and then jump on your opponent, the stars are not going spawn for some reason, it will just spawn like one star and then the rest are just not going to spawn (look at the star counter)

oh yeah and the star counter itself desyncs when you do some of these combos (but ig thats a 1.7 thing)

[scenic raven]

Is it?

Because i can just rollback 3.0 to try and fix those issues

[stone needle]

Hi Erick

long time no see

[scenic raven]

That groundpound thing is so weird, this needs fix asap.

Today ill focus on those issues

[stone needle]

do you guys agree

[scenic raven]

Wym?

[stone needle]

@scenic raven i found a bug

[scenic raven]

Lmao

[stone needle]

that costed me a whole round

[vernal pivot]

holy shit accurate shell model

[stray prairie]

me when me

[stone needle]

Erick why are the characters tilted more straight than they should be?

[scenic raven]

Iirc mega mushroom and blue shells are like this in the og

So i made them like this

[stone needle]

Hmm

Accurate source

[misty night]

this mod is a masterpiece

[scenic raven]

Thank you

There is still a lot of bugs yet but I will try to fix them asap

[misty night]

this mod deserves to live forever

[inner temple]

Thw update is great, this mod just needs a tad more UI work and it'll be cinema

[modest bough]

This Mod Would Be Super Cinema When It Gets A 1.8 Port 😎

[stone needle]

Give him a break

[stone needle]

@scenic raven I made the Pull Request, check it out when you can :)

[scenic raven]

Why did u delete the video @stone needle

[stone needle]

The PR was going to show the change anyways

I can resend it if you want then

[scenic raven]

Resend

[terse cobalt]

whats the difference hi

[stone needle]

the knockback animation is slightly different

it currently uses the groundpound anim which looks kinda off

so i made a lil edit of the sdown anim and put it in the game

[scenic raven]

Looks nice

So far bugs are

-skins not resetting
-groundpound attack not working properly
-attacks sometimes dont drop stars
-getting crushed on ice level

[scenic raven]

Any other bugs not listed above?

[misty night]

erick why you remove the palette colors?

[rich summit]

Bro is mad that he can't play as Wario anymore

[dire steppe]

i mean i questioned the removal too but it was prob just accuracy stuff :clueless:

[scenic raven]

It was just to clean up the lobby menu a bit

My plan was to make it look like a 1:1 menu remake

[scenic raven]

Maybe the groundpound thing could be related to me removing sliding feature?

Not sure but I will definitely test it

[scenic raven]

this bug seems to be exclusively for the blue shell strangely

I wonder if it only happens on 3.0

[stone needle]

yeah because you uncrouch in order to get out

since you can't crouch jump and move with blue shell

[scenic raven]

do you know how it works on the OG?

[stone needle]

You get noclipped out

[scenic raven]

yeah cuz apparently this runs the same code from when you get crushed on FORTRESS. what if I just make it so that you cant get crushed at all on SNOW level ?

[stone needle]

Then how would you get out

[scenic raven]

best way to fix a bug is to make an exception for it lmao

but with this you dont get noclipped, you just walk through it as if there were no walls lmao

[stone needle]

that sounds broken and unfair lmao

free hiding spot

in the vanilla game, you just slide out normally

you prob fucked up something

[scenic raven]

where would this part of code be located tho?

[stone needle]

idk, ask ipod xD

[scenic raven]

@tawny reef do you still remember how this works? sorry for the ping in advance

[stone needle]

Also this is probably rude, but what's the difference on the shell model??
I compared vanilla model and accuracy's model and they look the same

Is it some size/rotation changes in the player's prefab?

[scenic raven]

i cant remember correctly but I believe its the size of the shell itself and its position on the player model

it was a long time ago

[terse cobalt]

yeah its the shell size

in the remake the shell looks small

[scenic raven]

@stone needle it could also be the change in hitbox size ngl

[stone needle]

changing the shell's scale in the prefab doesn't affect the hitbox?

[scenic raven]

no

what I did was

I reduced all the players hitbox, to make it more accurate hitboxes for PVP

but the downside, is that the hitbox for every other action in the game such as hitting blocks are now innacurate

MvLo only uses 1 hitbox for large mario and 1 for small mario

while the OG had multiple different hitboxes per model

[stone needle]

WAIT
I think i know what's the cause then probably

The player's hitbox with the ice tunnel!

it's reduced at some point you are able to uncrouch

which causes that bug

that's probably it idk

[scenic raven]

I dont remember if blue shell just uses small mario hitboxes

or if it just halves big mario's one

[stone needle]

I can't really tell if it's the different rotation, or a minor model difference lol

[scenic raven]

the holes look bigger?

[stone needle]

Looks like it, yea

[scenic raven]

maybe what I want is in here? but i didnt change this part at all so it must be something else

[tawny reef]

uhh

did you add an extra scene to the game?

or reorder the build indexes?

because theres code that checks if the scene index is 4, and if so, it triggers crush code instead of "eject from block code"... its used for fortress

search for "janky hack", its in a comment, i think.

[stone needle]

plot twist
ipod made a typo, and erick cant find the comment

[scenic raven]

//janky fortress ceilingn check, m8

[tawny reef]

yeah that

[scenic raven]

i dont think i changed my build indexes tho

[tawny reef]

wanna try removing that code?

see if it's even that in the first place

[scenic raven]

so what I made is that I replaced SceneManager.GetActiveScene().buildIndex != 4 with CASTLE, which is pretty much the same thing

however

im now stuck

[scenic raven]

ill try that know

removing the code makes it lose powerup

[tawny reef]

hmmmmm

[scenic raven]

but if I put the code back and do increase crouching hitbox, blue shell gets stuck inside shell like the image instead of getting damaged

[tawny reef]

yeaaah i dont remember much about 1.7 anymore lol

[scenic raven]

well, the issue was indeed the hitboxes lmao

changing 0.9 to 1.05 seems to do the trick, I still have to check if there are any side effects though

[scenic raven]

Okay,

The hotfix update should be almost done

I believe I fixed most of the main issues with 3.0

[stone needle]

And some quality changes made by

[scenic raven]

combos should be fixed now, next update will be purely on bugfixes, I wonder if I will even call it 3.1 or 3.0 hotfix lol

[misty night]

bring back the palettes in new versions of this mod pls

[modest bough]

but this is the mod that wants to be as accurate as it possibly can!

[scenic raven]

I am making it so that you can uncrouch here with all powerups as well. which iirc was the case in the original

[scenic raven]

sadly I have no plans for skins 😦

[scenic raven]

I am behind on working on this mod

I will just release the new patch soon

I dont want this to take years again lol

[stone needle]

yay

[scenic raven]

3.1 is ready

BUT

I gotta sleep rn

[rich summit]

First time someone prioritised sleep and not MvL Mods holy moly

[scenic raven]

3.1 RELEASED!

https://github.com/Wiiucoop/NSMB-MarioVsLuigi-Accurate/releases/tag/3.1-Accuracy

COMBOS ARE BACK

[tribal harness]

Good

[misty night]

wheres the palette colors?

[brittle drift]

this is accuracy mod, there's no color palettes

[dire steppe]

you've already been told many times that color palettes were removed because this mod is supposed to be just like the original, and the original doesnt have color palettes. you should really stop bothering about them 🥴

[scenic raven]

It was removed to make the lobby menu more accurate

[stone needle]

Yeah go play WMM if you want to play as Wario

[scenic raven]

@stone needle have you found any bugs yet?

[stone needle]

I didn't play it yet

[scenic raven]

[3.1] MvL Accurate

[scenic raven]

I am pretty happy with 3.1

Although sadly it apparently wasnt played as much by you guys

I wanna focus on bugfixes-only for now.

If yall find one please post it here

[modest bough]

i think it's just cuz the modding scene just isn't as alive it was a year ago...

[stone needle]

This bug happened while playing in Beta E3

not sure if it happens frequently

[scenic raven]

What bug

Explain more

[stone needle]

Yeah it happens all the time

[stone needle]

Starman doesnt seem to make your character rainbow

always

[scenic raven]

It is intended to be like this lol

Beta starman looked like this

[stone needle]

Ohh

damn i didnt know

thats cul

[scenic raven]

That was there since 3.0

[stone needle]

If that's so, i didn't find any bug

yay

[vernal pivot]

im pretty sure beta starman also makes your character rainbow and not only green

https://youtu.be/dPvVdbBvDqI?si=KvjBY9-f_m953V2n

[scenic raven]

its not rainbow like the final game

[vernal pivot]

i know it doesnt make the character rainbow like final

but it doesnt look like the only color is green

[dire steppe]

oh yeah i kinda see it

it’s hard to tell cause if the quality but it does look like Mario goes through multiple colors instead of just green

it just doesn’t do it like the original game

[scenic raven]

My mod just uses the same effect as the one you get when you are about to lose MegaMushroom powerup

I could try to add more variations tho

[austere wadi]

ooh wait what happened to this?

do my eyes deceive me or is that the cap being animated during falling

[scenic raven]

the cap is indeed being "animated". Only in the E3 beta mode that is

[austere wadi]

how neat, I wonder if improvements like these are gonna be put in 2.0.0?

[scenic raven]

My project is separate from ipodtouch0218's

My game is supposed to look as accurate to the DS version as possible.

So 2.0.0 has nothing to do with this

[v3.1] MvL Accurate

[austere wadi]

But why not just make a pull request?

I think that's MvL's goal anyway

No?

I'm definitely not in the loop, so

I mean I saw the talks about the blue shell size and rotation speed..

A pull request containing all this would be awesome for everyone 🙂 those end up making everything look polished

[scenic raven]

Ipod would not be willing to merge all the changes I have done so far.

But I am sure there are lots of features he would be interested in adding in.

The only reason that I never did a PR so far was that my project was initially created using a very outdated version of MVL. So I would need to recreate my changes from scratch on 2.0.0. To only then make a Pull request

[austere wadi]

Ahh I see

[orchid holly]

wait so was this updated to 2.0 or nah

[scenic raven]

No and probably never will as there is no reason to do so

[orchid holly]

i mean yeah sure nothing would change but doesnt 2.0 perform better than 1.7 and 2.0 has netcode?

i think it would be benneficial to keep everything in the mod exactly in the same but just update so players have access to netcode lol

[austere wadi]

from what I can gather this seems to not be multiplayer centered

though Id love it if someone ported the enhancements to 2.0

[orchid holly]

im pretty sure its supposed to be as accurate as possible to the vanilla DS game which is only 2 players

which is still multiplayer

[scenic raven]

2.0 is a complete rewrite of the game, so to update accuracyMod to 2.0 I would need to basically remake the entire thing

[scenic raven]

This mod is focused on 1v1, which is how it worked on the DS.

You can play with 3+ players but it is not recommended

[austere wadi]

🤷‍♂️

[scenic raven]

Which features that are in 2.0 that are not yet in AccuracyMod that you guys miss out on?

[orchid holly]

rollback netcode LOL

thats a pretty huge one

gets rid of host advantage somewhat entirely

i think some of the maps were briefly touched on as well to be more accurate, im not sure how much in comparison to the mod but yeah

DS resolution changes

framerate changes

colorblind changes mainly

the mario and luigi changes to make them more accurate to the original game idk

its mainly just the networking your missing out on by not updating the mod

and arguably the networking on 1.7 isnt very good

[stray prairie]

colorblind mode in 2.0 just changes the sprite of the purple coins and the team icons

not missing out on much

[orchid holly]

is that actually it I thought it changed some other things like pipe colors

[stray prairie]

nope

as a colorblind person it don’t do anything else

[orchid holly]

bruh

colorblindness on par with most colorblind changes in video games

remember when among us's colorblind mode was like

changing the wires and thats really it

W update

[stray prairie]

i haven’t played among us is years so i wouldn’t know

in 2.0 everyone can use the colorblind mode if they wanted to whether they’re colorblind or not

[orchid holly]

i probably will especially if it gives an actual gameplay advantage

my computer basically makes me blue colorblind since i have the warmness setting cranked up to max so my eyes dont get eye strain

genuinely cannot tell the difference between green or blue on this setup

[stray prairie]

i’m red shade colorblind so it’s hard for me to tell between green and yellow, or blue and magenta

at least with how light the green is

[orchid holly]

what happened to those glasses that every colorblind youtuber and their mom was flaunting about that "corrected colorblindness" a while back

were those just like a trend

[stray prairie]

my colorblindness isn’t anywhere near as bad as other peoples so i don’t think the glasses would do much

besides make everything red more saturated ig

would still be cool to try them tho

[orchid holly]

i mean maybe you get them custom made lol

surely they test you first before making them

[tawny reef]

what else would need to be changed in mvl for a colorblind mode?

[orchid holly]

idk like pipe colors ig thats all i can really say

[tawny reef]

there's not really anything thats distinguished by color only, besides maybe the player glow colors?

why would pipe colors matter?

[orchid holly]

you can only enter yellow pipes with the occasional green mini one

[tawny reef]

I suppose. I'd need an example of what else it could look like then

[orchid holly]

im not really sure either tbh

you could put a down arrow on them (or up depending on direction) if colorblind mode is on

[tawny reef]

that I can do

[austere wadi]

Tbh, no
I was gonna say this yesterday!! the only pipes that work are obvious in a design sense

other than that theyre just a decorative element

it wouldnt make sense really

[tawny reef]

I mean, if you're red/green colorblind and you're seeing pipes for the first time, I can see how it'd be confusing

[austere wadi]

maybe colorblind mode could put a text during the level loading saying "the pipes are aesthetic! only the far right & far left pipes can be entered"

but idkk

[orchid holly]

theres also that middle pipe on pipes tbf

[austere wadi]

oh right

well then arrows on those specific pipes

[tawny reef]

i don't see why there can just be arrows on all enterable pipes in colorblind mode

i don't think it would be that distracting

[scenic raven]

Anyways, I am not actively working on this project right now due to.... life... and also other projects

I do want however to release an update to fix Small mario's HEAD model though

[keen prawn]

,

[scenic raven]

up

[icy eagle]

holy shit when the accuracy goes down he returns....

[scenic raven]

wym by goes down? 👀

[icy eagle]

people are very against accuracy in mvlo as of late it seems
like some changes are being made to that basically revert accuracy changes
example blueshell going fast on slopes while sliding or stomping in whilie being in knockback being changed to not work on whoever hit the person

and probably some other stuff my shitty memory isn't recalling

[scenic raven]

damn...

But tbh I dont think ipod ever aimed to be 100% accurate, but more of a "better?" online experience

and do people still give attention to 1.7 based mods?

I remember lots of people requesting that I updated my game to be based on 2.0

[icy eagle]

ig so but idk i feel like finding a good balance is nice

[scenic raven]

well, thats why my mod exists ig. to bring the DS experience as closely as possible

[icy eagle]

miibumm mod and that's it i think cause it came out recently

[scenic raven]

im out of ideas on what to add/change to accuracyMod though.. other than the small mario model. do you notice anything looking way too innacurate?

[icy eagle]

i don't remember what exactly is and isn't in your mod

but i remember combos being a not so accurate as we thought at the time

unless im misremembering

[scenic raven]

I remember combos being broken on 3.0 release. it was fixed in 3.1 but even then, I dont remember how accurate they actually are lol

crazy to think its been almost a year already since 3.1

[terse cobalt]

do you plan to port this to 2.0?
i mean, 2.0 has technically has some "accurate" stuff like combos, particles and physics but i feel like accuracy mod had pretty cool stuff like E3 beta stuff

tbh if you want to update your mod, id say to start from scratch with 2.0
it would be kinda pointless to keep working on a unstable version with a bunch of netcode issues