NSMBVS-Wonder

[spice drift]

@misty sinew alr here it is

#1177413693554819112 message yes !!!!

[muted torrent]

hypercat make the best view for our match

pls

[tame summit]

which theme should i make first?

[old kestrel]

beehive

[spice drift]

goldwood imo

or beehive

[old kestrel]

beehive cause bee swarm

vicious bee

vic

[spice drift]

true

@ vic

also cosmic clones in sewers is WAY too hectic

[lunar lodge]

@nova hound

[old kestrel]

not even the silent ping

[spice drift]

romanian has trust with vic....

we feel embarrased to ping him.....

[old kestrel]

@nova hound

i did it right

silent ping

[tame summit]

Imma make beehive first then

[spice drift]

@exotic island if you arent much of a fan of 2 floors then you're gonna enjoy this

[exotic island]

oooh

[tough quail]

im fairly certain it's possible to softlock in there even with the bob ombs

[spice drift]

yeah i was uinsure with that too

i feel like jus scrap that bit of the bob ombs

(leave the bob omb at the powerup block tho)

[tough quail]

on the bottom one you could try putting brick blocks instead
the one near the wonder flower i'd probably just leave opened

[rain sky]

Please just never ever in under any circumstance try to implement bob omb exclusive passageways 😭😭😭😭

[spice drift]

hmm fair enough

[tame summit]

Tileset done

👽

[spice drift]

zamn

[muted torrent]

@spice drift bro get the last 2 stars

[spice drift]

what

[tame summit]

osughaohaof

[storm merlin]

asdijaldkjalskdj

[old kestrel]

faiurvpiaurnvisenevehi

[tame summit]

the beginning

[lunar lodge]

is that jungle 2

[tame summit]

No

It's Beehive Forest

Very in development tho

[nova hound]

It's ok don't worry I don't mind pings...

[lunar lodge]

hi vic

[tame summit]

:O

[spice drift]

ohh boy

[tame summit]

Yeah it still needs some work

[spice drift]

@misty sinew okay THIS is the final gold mine
made some lil changes, added 2 koopas, did the suggestions grape said regarding the bob omb spots. and added more stars/wonder flower spawns

[rain sky]

Interesting little gap there

I can see someone getting trolled in there

[misty sinew]

getting trapped

[rain sky]

Like they're small and can't break the block so now no one else will ground pound the blocks

[spice drift]

yeah....

[tough quail]

oh right

[spice drift]

either remove that

[tough quail]

that's my fault

mb

[spice drift]

nah its fine

[rain sky]

Rework it so that stars spawn in there and people are incentiviced to go in. Also add a non bricks entrance for those who have no powerups

[spice drift]

mmmm

[rain sky]

But DON'T remove the bricks entrance. Just have both

[spice drift]

ah i think i see what you mean

[tough quail]

oh i see like a small gap for small players

[spice drift]

a quicker way to enter with bricks, but a slower one without the bricks?

[tough quail]

so they can run in from the side

[spice drift]

or that yeah

[rain sky]

Maybe? I was thinking it's a gap for anyone to go in through, like a one way from below or something if this small space were to be moved further up

But yeah a mini hole on the side could work

[tough quail]

not a mini hole

[rain sky]

More or less, yeah

[tough quail]

just a hole that's 1 block high

[rain sky]

Oh

[tough quail]

so small players can get it

[rain sky]

I see

[spice drift]

okay lemme see

[rain sky]

Here's a random thing I made. It's very rough though

This doesn't make sense does it

[tough quail]

is that a mini hole

[rain sky]

Not a mini hole

[tough quail]

ok

[rain sky]

It's the 1 block tall gap you suggested

[tough quail]

so you just drew it weird

got it

[rain sky]

Yes lol

[spice drift]

wait lemme see what yall think of this first

lemme finish it

[tough quail]

that works

[rain sky]

Maybe?

[spice drift]

i hate that the little wall next to the bricks looks odd but oh well lol

[nova hound]

that might be because there aren't any 1-block wide tiles on that tileset... beware

[spice drift]

yeahh

[rain sky]

Yeah I'm gonna redraw my thing in that case then

[spice drift]

👽

[nova hound]

also who spelt "wnderfulo" with reacts on this thread sob

[spice drift]

@ blueswitchpalace

[nova hound]

este mod es muy wonderfulo

[nova hound]

it's pretty darned complete considering it went unused...

[spice drift]

fr

[spice drift]

oh i think i can just move the right side 1 tile and it'll work out

there we go

even added a lil coin for the smol players frfr

i still want to see what kazzik has in mind tho

[rain sky]

It works well enough. I'm just unsure exactly how I feel about that 1 block wide pit

Is that so that big players can't slide into the hole from the side?

[spice drift]

i didnt even think about that, infact, i was moreso against big players not being able to get in

ill change that then

[spice drift]

or not, idk

it does make sense tho

small players go thru the lil hole, big ones break theb ricks

actually ill just change it lo

[rain sky]

If anything, here's my design in case you decide to scrap yours

[spice drift]

oh thats actually really neat

[rain sky]

Oh my fucking god I keep forgetting 1 block wide platforms

[spice drift]

👽

[rain sky]

Move this 1 block to the left if you decide to use it

[raw salmon]

this looks sick

[rain sky]

Just so that the tileset next to that yellow pipe isn't 1 block wide

[spice drift]

huh

oh the wall and the corner?

[rain sky]

The wall to the right

Where the pipe is

[spice drift]

o

[rain sky]

With how I drew it, it's only 1 block wide, which is going to make it look weird and whatnot like what happened earlier

[spice drift]

!!!!!

yea i think this works very well, thanks kazzik

[rain sky]

Holy hell!

[rain sky]

No problem ☺️

Grape also contributed so thanks to her as well

[spice drift]

yeah, thank you grape too

🙏

[tame summit]

More forest!!

[misty sinew]

lmao ded

[spice drift]

sky forest 🤔

[tame summit]

🤔

[spice drift]

okay now THIS is the final gold mine

[tame summit]

[rain sky]

I also just noticed

Some of the ground is made to acommodate really well for the endless running badge, which I think is a really cool detail

[tough quail]

awesome

[rain sky]

We contributed to the game so that means we now get rainbow names

[tough quail]

[spice drift]

so true

[misty sinew]

sot rue

[tame summit]

Also, for some reason you can do the smb1 wall jump sometimes?

Collision is weird

[tame summit]

sotr ue

[tame summit]

Did you see him stand? Collision moment.

[misty sinew]

bg moment

[patent shoal]

i'm trying to do something (I have no idea what I'm doing)

[spice drift]

huh?

is this a like...

change of scene level?

or something lol

[patent shoal]

idk I just used a random tileset

[spice drift]

o

[tame summit]

ooh.

More level.

[spice drift]

btw salka, how do you open up mvl in just the emulator?

or do you use another console or emulator

[tame summit]

It's an emulator

[spice drift]

i know but how

in melonds

[nova hound]

Melonds has local multiplayer support, you can open another instance of it and it'll just, kinda work

[spice drift]

o

[nova hound]

Maybe you'll first have to enable Multiplayer in settings though, dunno if it's on by default

[patent shoal]

i think it's on by default since i didn't enable anything on the settings

[nova hound]

Neat

[spice drift]

btw did u just open up an mvl stage and changed the tileset and stuff then started tiling?

[patent shoal]

uhhh

I also modified the view 0 to be bigger

like this

[spice drift]

o

actually lemme try putting gold mine in this and see how it works

[patent shoal]

however your level needs to meet some limitations or else they will break (like the sprite set limitation which can be bypassed with asm)

[spice drift]

how do i do that 👽

[patent shoal]

also they need to be either 2 chunks, 4 chunks or 8 chunks

[spice drift]

i saw it in the lil caution when u ope n up mvl levels

[spice drift]

o

[patent shoal]

horizontally

vertically idk

[spice drift]

probably any vertically

considering ice

7 chunks !!!

(editing grass)

[patent shoal]

wait

[spice drift]

hu

[patent shoal]

i think on normal levels that limitation doesn't apply

on mvl the chunk limitation is for the level to loop

[spice drift]

o

mine should be good then, its also not an odd number

[patent shoal]

also you can change the level sprite sets on normal levels I think

[spice drift]

what about mvl levels

[patent shoal]

you can't without asm

[spice drift]

damn

ill put it grass tileset then

[patent shoal]

no

[spice drift]

a

[patent shoal]

sprite sets

like goombas and stuff

[spice drift]

OH

oh okay yeah i see what you mean

[patent shoal]

not tilesets

[spice drift]

when stuff is highlighted red

alr

stinky

[patent shoal]

I really want to make a level where the metal wonder effect is useful

but idk what tileset to use

[spice drift]

interesting

[spice drift]

jungle or castle

lava- poison

metal is immune to those

[patent shoal]

yes

exactly

I want to make a map where there's something under the lava

but idk what the theme of the map should be

[tame summit]

Pipes

[tough quail]

i mean it's useful in like every map it doesn't get stuck in like desert
even then it's a bit hard to get up the semi soild blocks

[tame summit]

Castle mixed with pipes

[spice drift]

hmm castle:

configured gold mines

lets see how it works

[tame summit]

update: it doesnt

[spice drift]

uh yeah

👽

[tame summit]

👽

[spice drift]

oh wait im dumb i used nsmb owner

it meant to be download play

sob

nvm idk how to make it work :alien

[patent shoal]

pipes but it's actually a castle level

[tame summit]

:O

[spice drift]

wth the background

thats actually sick

pipe rock plateau palace fr

[patent shoal]

if mario wonder was in mvl

[spice drift]

OH

lmao its so broken

goomba appeared on the ground and died, koopa is stuck inside ground

camera doesnt move properly

need to fix it

oh wait the level itself is messed up

the latter half is just completely cut lmao

[rain sky]

Finally what we've been asking for

[patent shoal]

unfinished preview of the first section of the map

(I only have the piranha plant)

[tame summit]

Map

Mario? (there's a secret platform)

[misty sinew]

That's no good

insert emoji of sonic

[rain sky]

Secret path down here

[spice drift]

we're at the point everyone is making maps for the mod

[misty sinew]

Yeah

Means I don't 👍

[patent shoal]

Why the lava turn into water

[red bison]

what does lightweight jumps even do

it didnyt do anything for me

not done yet

[spice drift]

negate metal effect gravity

i was thinking that besides negating the effect, it should in general make you fall slower

i mean it does say lightweight lol

[rain sky]

I feel like luigi physics should do that

Instead of lightweight jumps

[spice drift]

floating high jump!!!

[tame summit]

Beehive is done!!

(Note: the background may need some work.)

[spice drift]

how about a vertical level in the mod

[tame summit]

We should design it together so that it can be even more chaotic

[rain sky]

I'll take your skin and wrap you around with it

[tame summit]

😨

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-vicente-fernandez-head-pat-crush-michael-reeves-gif-23764722

[spice drift]

are mvl vertical levels THAAAT bad 😭?

i mean i know they're bad but,,,

[tough quail]

propeller

[spice drift]

fair enough

[tough quail]

plus having high ground is essential in mvl

also it's a fucking vertical level in mario

you wanna play water levels too??

no

[spice drift]

👽

[tame summit]

what about.

an endless level.

(just a super long level)

the match would never end

[tough quail]

you're joking

[spice drift]

desert bus:

[tame summit]

damn it

[spice drift]

gleam glacier?

ice 2???!?!??!?!?!?

[tame summit]

Gleam Glacier.. from Super Princess Peach??

[spice drift]

at this point its super princess peach maps

[spice drift]

yessss

wavy beach........

fury volcano.....

shriek mansion

wait actually, wwhat if it IS directly a spp level but with some lil changes 🤔

[tame summit]

👀

That would actually be big brain

But at this point it's becoming HMM 2: Wonder Mix

oh boy, these are a lot of tiles

[spice drift]

wth

[muted torrent]

I like how the characters make this expression, making it look like they're struggling to move the legs or something 👽

[spice drift]

when or how do they do that 👽

[muted torrent]

idk man 👽

never miss a single physics class? 👽

[sullen cobalt]

like in Mario wonder

[spice drift]

another map...?

but what theme

[rain sky]

Idk if this is the right expression for miibumm to do while doing that though

[tough quail]

@obsidian charm do you have the wide eye expression for grapie still

[tame summit]

But what about an endless vertical level /j

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-8957558

[sullen cobalt]

should I play mvl wonder

[muted torrent]

Guys remember the original mario bros in the arcade?

[sullen cobalt]

Mario bros

we love stomping on koopas

[muted torrent]

what if we make an map of the game

[sullen cobalt]

sounds too small

[muted torrent]

smaller than bricks 👽

[sullen cobalt]

bricks isn't one screen

or is it

vsauce here

[tame summit]

"Where are your fingers?"

[obsidian charm]

I don't think so

[tough quail]

grapie is
LOST media....

[muted torrent]

its 16 tiles long 💀

[spice drift]

1 chunk:

guys what theme for another level

[tame summit]

Asteroid

[sullen cobalt]

your grandma's house

jk

[spice drift]

uhhhhh

[tame summit]

Asteroid

[spice drift]

anothero ne

[tame summit]

Crystal Mines

[spice drift]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

maaaaaybe

[tame summit]

(From newer wii)

[tame summit]

An actual smb wonder level

[spice drift]

oh yeahh

i was trying to make a wonder tileset 👽

[tame summit]

gimme 👽

[spice drift]

(its just smbw tiles but 16x16)

io nly have,,, ground and slope

[tame summit]

i could help make them, i'm kinda good at sprite art

[spice drift]

i just took an ss of a tile then resized it to 16x16 lol

[tame summit]

That's pretty good!

oh

[misty sinew]

one sec

i got something

[spice drift]

oh?

[tame summit]

oh?

[misty sinew]

VERY unfinished tileset. trying to use the method the original wonder uses.

[sullen cobalt]

I could help but I have literally no experience making nsmbds tilesets so nvm

[tame summit]

He's kinda cooking right now

[spice drift]

o damnnnnn

[sullen cobalt]

fr

[misty sinew]

if you're wondering when i mean by that, the grass is rotated and pasted on top in Wonder.

i don't have corner tiles rn

[tame summit]

that's my job

👾

[spice drift]

what about the background

steal it with switch toolbox fr

[tame summit]

frfr

on blud, that's what we want, that's it

[spice drift]

so the walls have grass on them...

[tame summit]

💀

[spice drift]

obtained !?!?!?

not 1080p :broke

[tame summit]

💔

[tame summit]

[misty sinew]

got a screenshot i can use

[spice drift]

o

[misty sinew]

fresh

[sullen cobalt]

has it all

even the cookie dough

[tame summit]

It's 1080p

[spice drift]

while at it get the pipe one aswell

[misty sinew]

which one is better, nearest or linear?

too late, nearest it is. here's my updated ground tiles.

[sullen cobalt]

yummy

[misty sinew]

yummy

[tame summit]

yummy

@misty sinew Where the grass wall

[misty sinew]

don't mind my bad circle

[tame summit]

Terrible circle

[misty sinew]

mouse moment

[spice drift]

zamnnnn

[misty sinew]

that circle looks like a chao

[tame summit]

where the right grass curve wall and the upside down versions

[misty sinew]

gone, deleted

/j ofc

[tame summit]

:O

[spice drift]

now use this

[misty sinew]

that is not a vs theme

[spice drift]

(i didnt make it)

[spice drift]

true

[tame summit]

Now remix it in the ds soundfont

[spice drift]

🤔

[tame summit]

Pipes

[misty sinew]

why is it not at the same scale? it's bugging me

it's not at the 70ppu scale

[spice drift]

wait

its cause

im zoomed in

me when im at 400% zoom

[tame summit]

bro locked in

[crystal tiger]

Boy wait till you see the Fortress theme replacement in Doodler's Mayhem

(Its not a vs theme either but I really don't give a shit)

[tame summit]

also, why are all the backgrounds black

[spice drift]

ms paint

[tame summit]

never make them in ms paint.

[crystal tiger]

Best art program

[misty sinew]

smol pipe

32x32

[tame summit]

no

[spice drift]

but ms paint is gud :broke

[tame summit]

what is :broke

[spice drift]

:broken

[tame summit]

YESSSSSS

I'm gonna make the fluff-puff peaks tileset

[tame summit]

gimp

wait this isnt windows search frick

[misty sinew]

lmao

[spice drift]

wish i could use this in nsmbe 🥺

[misty sinew]

one sec

[spice drift]

(palette)

[misty sinew]

did i stutter?

[spice drift]

🤔

[tame summit]

Hey um

[tame summit]

how do you turn off antialiasing in gimp

[misty sinew]

interpolation none

[tame summit]

Cool thanks

[misty sinew]

bru how do i make slopes in nsmbe

[tame summit]

you don't

[spice drift]

px like @old kestrel

[old kestrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1178943224308580362.png?size=160&name=Boardser

[tame summit]

Fluff-Puff Progress

Thanks ign 🙏

[misty sinew]

all praise ign

[spice drift]

fr

[spice drift]

hey yk im gonna do it too !!! ill get underground !!!

[misty sinew]

ps. the tiles don't function. they're just for show.

this stage is a fucking mess. i'm gonna have to restart the port because boy

MARIO YOU GREEDY BASTARD

why whenever i try to port this stage does it do this?

[spice drift]

could it be the coin count?

reduce the amount of coins

wait how many coins even are there

cause giddy sky has 20 of them

[misty sinew]

it's the fucking coin count

ipod your game is busted

[spice drift]

👽

Wtf its 50 coins

WHA

ok thats way too many 😭

[misty sinew]

did Leafy encounter this issue with that leaf plains stage?

[spice drift]

delete wtv coins u want

[misty sinew]

now what about the music

[spice drift]

idk
i think slide theme sounds silly tho

or it could just be MKWII wario's gold mine

both are very silly themes

[tame summit]

how about...
https://youtu.be/JlSDz1-QG6g?si=LL33ylj7lrty8pSk

[misty sinew]

but i already added the wario theme

[tame summit]

😭

[spice drift]

hmmmm

[old kestrel]

SLIDER WOULD BE SO FUNNY

wario gold mine is better tho

[spice drift]

thats what im sayingggg
wario's gold mine is more fitting tho

[misty sinew]

i think this fits

[tame summit]

We got em bois

[spice drift]

ohhh yeeee

[tame summit]

[misty sinew]

NO

LEAKED

(vs-wonder is open source idfc)

[tame summit]

HAHAHHAHEH

[spice drift]

wai wha

[rain sky]

How powerful/annoying do you think a badge would be that automatically spawns a coin powerup in your reserve?

[spice drift]

gravity 👽

[tame summit]

stronger gravity 👽

[misty sinew]

don't let people see my terrible code 😭

[spice drift]

depends on when its given

[tame summit]

@misty sinew Add goldmine.cs NOW

[misty sinew]

what do you mean goldmine.cs

[tame summit]

⏫

[rain sky]

Terrible or not, the code is wonderful!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1161550056546107402.gif?size=48&name=FlowerTalk&quality=lossless

[tame summit]

(it's literally just space.cs but multiply gravity)

[rain sky]

On the circumstance?

That's how default coin powerups work too tbh

[misty sinew]

multiplyGrav = .5

there

x2

[tame summit]

no

we need MORE

[misty sinew]

i- uh

[tame summit]

2.5x

[misty sinew]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using Photon.Pun;
using NSMB.Utils;

public class WonderFlower : MonoBehaviourPun
{
    public bool collected;
    public float collectTimer;
    public Animator anim;
    public Collider2D box;
    private void Update()
    {
        if (collectTimer > 0)
        {
            collectTimer -= Time.deltaTime;
            if(collectTimer <= 0)
            {
                Destroy(gameObject);
            }
        }
    }
    private void Start()
    {
        UIUpdater.Instance.CreateFlowerIcon(gameObject);
    }
    public GameObject findFlowerID(int id)
    {
        foreach(WonderFlower w in FindObjectsOfType<WonderFlower>())
        {
            if(id == w.GetComponent<PhotonView>().ViewID)
            {
                return w.gameObject;
            }
        }
        return null;
    }
    public void CollectFlower()
    {
        if(collected) //woah bucko! we shouldn't even be able to do that. 
        {
            return; //hopefully this code should never be reached.
        }
        box.enabled = false;
        anim.SetTrigger("get");
        collected = true;
        collectTimer = 1f;
    }
}

[tame summit]

what the-

he coded

[spice drift]

how about a coin steal badge....

[rain sky]

I'd imagine powerup priorities would also take place here. If you get mega or starman, coins will stop working for you until you drop your powerup

[spice drift]

if someone has a coin and you stomp them or bump them you get a coin and remove one of theirs, and if they dont have any u dont get any

[rain sky]

Also yes this'd be the first time you can hold a starman! 😳

[old kestrel]

i dont speak spanish, what does this mean ||/j||

[tame summit]

basically he killed himself

[old kestrel]

i seeee

[misty sinew]

i- uh

i coded

lol

[tame summit]

lol

[misty sinew]

the mod's open source so i don't care

[spice drift]

wish i could understand code :broke

[misty sinew]

that script is for the shadow marios

[tame summit]

now add goldmine.cs or die

[misty sinew]

i kinda want to explain some of the changes i made and how they work.

[tame summit]

it's easy, you just-

[spice drift]

wait did u change cosmic clones?

[misty sinew]

changes i made from the base game.

[spice drift]

o

[misty sinew]

like the cosmic clones.
each stores lists of data relating to their target, and plays it back ____ fixed updates later

50 is the value used

[tame summit]

make it 1 second behind

[misty sinew]

i believe that is 50

i'm pretty sure unity's fixed update by default runs in 50

[tame summit]

what if it was rng

[misty sinew]

no

screw

you

[tame summit]

🔫

[misty sinew]

AHH

[covert parcel]

i want to add effect

[tame summit]

go ahead

[misty sinew]

well, the wonder effects are stored in the GameManager.

when the player gets a wonder flower it picks a random effect from the possibleeffects list, even if it's listed twice.

and for actually coding the effects, there's no strategy there. just wing it.

[covert parcel]

imagine. Player swap effect or even better, star spam effect make stars appear at half time

so many ideas

[tame summit]

star spam would literally just be star rain

from vanilla

[misty sinew]

never jon

cover me in stars

amiright

[tame summit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-garfield-movie-garfield-garfield-la-película-funny-meme-gif-12873418920063888382

[misty sinew]

GARFIELD NOO

also uhhhh....

[covert parcel]

big star spam

[tame summit]

That is not normal

Move that up 2 tiles

[spice drift]

but what about the instant dash badge 🥺

[covert parcel]

what does "Goomba Protection" do?

[tame summit]

code in a nutshell:

x.velocity = [running speed]

[misty sinew]

that is all sorts of wrong but also right? idk

[tame summit]

it's in a nutshell, doesn't mean it has to be correct

[tame summit]

goomba protecc

[covert parcel]

what does it do

[misty sinew]

protects you against goomba transform

[covert parcel]

oh

I thought you could run into enemies...

and take no damage...

[tame summit]

oh no
@spice drift is dead

[misty sinew]

rip

[tame summit]

rip

[covert parcel]

do these have weight?

I find the Goomba effect way more rare than the other ones

[misty sinew]

when you get a wonder flower it grabs a random item from this list, you can make an effect more common by having it in the list multiple times.

[misty sinew]

this is because its not in most stages

[spice drift]

h

[tame summit]

:O

[misty sinew]

:O

[tame summit]

They have returned

[spice drift]

!!!!!!!!!!

[tame summit]

[misty sinew]

[gilded bane]

[spice drift]

reserve-able starman badge 🤔

[spice drift]

how would it work doe

pick up a starman while mega or big and it save

[rain sky]

YES!!

[rain sky]

If you're mega, starman goes to reserve. If you're starman, starman doesn't reset the duration and it goes to reserve

[spice drift]

o mmmm

reserve-able starman would be kinda strategic ngl

it'd also have ah igher value than every powerup (or not), but not more than mega

[spice drift]

ayo???

[stiff burrow]

yo @misty sinew

[stiff burrow]

who reacted fire emoji

unreact it

[spice drift]

hi guys totally normal mvl screenshot

[muted torrent]

the item bar

theres an star pocketed 💀

[tame summit]

Um

It's fake

B-because um-

[covert parcel]

cool, how do I do this in vanilla?

[rain sky]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-rizz-rizz-gif-11157824601050747846

WHAT IS THIS GIF??

[covert parcel]

peak gif

[spice drift]

why doi feel like im gonna be in trouble if i post it in mvl media 👽

[rain sky]

Post what?

Oh the screenshot

Yeah maybe don't

[muted torrent]

what is this?!

[old kestrel]

To unlock Luigi, you must complete the entire game without getting hit 2401 times. After that, you must make another save, more specifically in slot Mario D. Once you start playing Mario D, you have to climb the water fall first. Unlike the previous runs, this time Mario can swim upwards toward the peak of the waterfall. Instead of entering the Metal Cap room, you enter the fountain area. Run around the statue clockwise 64 times and press start. The statue should break and reveal a green cap that allows another player to join, or to become Luigi. The statue is replaced with a platinum box that allows you to switch back to Mario and vice versa.

[rain sky]

People will start talking about 1.8 and then you'll clarify it's for a mod then people will start talking about 1.8 and then someone else will clarify it's for a mod then people will ping ipod then another person comes to post roblox cock then people will start talking about 1.8 then people ipod will be pinged like 3 more times...

[muted torrent]

In other words, u have to make an sacrifice to unlock Luigi

[old kestrel]

roblox cock?

[muted torrent]

tf do roblox have to do with this

[rain sky]

It's a reference to something that happened earlier in general 1 🥴

[spice drift]

wait i didnt even see that 😭

[muted torrent]

can somebody tell me whats that still

[rain sky]

It's a mod

[muted torrent]

oh

ok

[spice drift]

its not even real anyways

[covert parcel]

doesn't that only happen if I do not watch the Super Mario Brothers Super Show?

[spice drift]

wizardies 💪

[old kestrel]

this?

[muted torrent]

lmao

[rain sky]

No that's pokemon and cock

Not even pokemon cock

[muted torrent]

Can we stop talking about cocks? 👽

[old kestrel]

do pokemon have cocks?

thats a horrible question

[spice drift]

yall 😭

[muted torrent]

i agree

[rain sky]

I'm talking about a literal picture visually demonstrating roblox cock

Why are we talking about this?

[spice drift]

true

[rain sky]

Yeah lmao let's go back to the mod in question

[spice drift]

i think reserrvable starman badge is gud

[muted torrent]

Cock

[rain sky]

It's an interesting concept but I feel it could also be too good

Like, starman isn't reservable for a reason, you know?

[spice drift]

yeaaaaaaaaaa

players in last gonna have stars 24/7

[covert parcel]

Super Mario World would like to have a talk with you

The way the spin jump works is so weird

[tame summit]

Yooo

That's 🔥

[rain sky]

Do wonder flowers affect levels with liquids in them?

[spice drift]

not sure

i think a lava rising one could work

it'd need a lil delay tho cause it could be quite annoying

basically get jumpscared by a giant block of lava spawning on you

[patent shoal]

I made the stage so people with the metal wonder effect can take advantage of the platforms below the lava

[spice drift]

oo

lil escape route

[rain sky]

Yeah that's more or less what I'm thinking

I had the most insane idea for a level which might be controversial if I don't explain myself first

It might also be confusing if you happen to know my distaste for the mechanic in question

[spice drift]

i was thinking of a water flood one for sewers, but hypercat doesnt have the water code, and im pretty sure that its kinda buggy rn aswell

[spice drift]

o? what is it

[patent shoal]

don't mind the lava-water

[rain sky]

Basically, you get a level with 2 floors, and there is gravity defying lava that can kill you from above and from below. If there's no lava, the level would play just like volcano with it's shitass double floors thing, but in this level, the way it works is the lava is constantly covering 1 of the 2 floors, and every time the wonder flower is touched, the lava will move up or down to the next floor, forcing everyone to platform their way before dying. This would also probably require wonder flowers to update spawn positions of the stars depending on where the lava currently is, and it would also mean lava destroys stars, not the void. Now, to get to the one gimmick that I've actively hated on before this one specific case...

Vertical scrolling (HEAR ME OUT HERE)
Since you're not able to constantly just run or fall down between the floors, having the lava wrap around just like the players or like the star would make sense. This means that, under perfect rng, lava would constantly keep rising/declining 1 floor every time a wonder flower is picked up, but the map isn't going to end because it wraps both vertically and horizontally

I hope this isn't too confusing but that's the idea ☺️

[patent shoal]

Cool idea

[spice drift]

THIS IS FUCKING IN MORE MAPS MOD 😭😭😭

[patent shoal]

I actually like it

[spice drift]

but yeah this is a good idea

[rain sky]

The lava thing, vertical scrolling, or both?

[spice drift]

both

[rain sky]

I'm not big into the modding scene so I have not played more maps mod

[spice drift]

wait

lemme see

[spice drift]

thats fair

[rain sky]

Like, in the same stage, even?

[patent shoal]

what is this "⁉️" react? I just said that I like the idea

[rain sky]

Give me a download to this mod

Nvm I'll open up mod loader

Wait...

Oh god...

[spice drift]

oh i was like ''cooking !?!??!'' because u originally said ''i actually make it'' lol

my bad

[rain sky]

Idk if this is the right mod but I vaguely remember playing this before I'm pretty sure

[spice drift]

yeah thats it

[covert parcel]

bro

you can spin jump when the round ended

[rain sky]

Is this that one mod with the castle map that has the camera constantly shaking up and down to a nauseating degree?

[patent shoal]

I mistyped add instead of like, sorry

[spice drift]

the what

[rain sky]

Yeah, a while back, someone made a really simple map pack mod that was full of either broken or unfun maps

One of them was a vertical pipes level that was not broken but really bad to play on, and the other one was the castle map I mentioned

[spice drift]

damn this might bei t then 👽

wait, join my lobby im on us

and see if thats it

[rain sky]

Lmao ok

It fucking is

IT ABSOLUTELY IS FROSTY

[spice drift]

💔

wth this isnt the castle map i was talking to you about

i swear it was in this mod

[rain sky]

This is definetly an interesting design

Also uh

[spice drift]

oh wait its in steve's i think

[rain sky]

#mvl-discussion

Or something

Lol

[spice drift]

oop

try joining steve's map pack

[rain sky]

Ok one sec

[patent shoal]

I think I might be cooking something

[rain sky]

Ayo?

[rain sky]

Ayo??

Stars have water physics???

[patent shoal]

apparently yes

[tame summit]

Pipe castle11!1!

[patent shoal]

it also works as a regular map ig

[stiff burrow]

https://youtu.be/BG7Cb5l8gHQ?si=8Lkpj2OwjHRCAv7N @misty sinew

[misty sinew]

already seen

[tame summit]

My phone's abt to die

Ping me when Ben is done

[spice drift]

neatttttt

[stiff burrow]

add or???

[misty sinew]

no

[spice drift]

is it even that easy 👽

[patent shoal]

uhhhhh

[rain sky]

I don't remember the bricks in this tileset looking so purple

Is that their color in the base game?

[patent shoal]

it's the final bowser castle tileset

[rain sky]

Oh

I don't remember the colors on that tileset, but I'm pretty sure it was multiple colored bricks right?

[dusk nymph]

but no funny switches that make it upside down

[stiff burrow]

does the pipe lead anywhere

[olive sapphire]

marios tunnel of doom

[ruby peak]

i found a bug

idk if this bug was found

[tame summit]

whoa

what level is that

[ruby peak]

dude that map is called "Ash"

crouching at the near edge of the pipe does that

probably hitbox?

[tame summit]

speedrunners that have over 2401 pbs:

[ruby peak]

speedrun is real 2401

[spice drift]

wtf

my game crashed because of that speed up

[tame summit]

Frosty’s alive again ‼️‼️

[spice drift]

hi guyss

[hearty berry]

he looks he’s about to slowly get up and walk towards you

[tame summit]

lmao

[ruby peak]

sot rue

[tame summit]

sotr ue

[crystal tiger]

S otr ue

[tame summit]

@misty sinew Here's an updated goldmine.cs that actually works

[spice drift]

sptrue

[spice drift]

huh wha

is gold mine the map

pj waot

ot ñppls lñike a badñ

wth

it looks like a badge

[crystal tiger]

So true

Spit your facts indeed

[tame summit]

no, it's code to make the gravity stronger

[spice drift]

o

[tame summit]

since you're in a mine which is closer to the core of the earth

[spice drift]

ohhh

smart

[tame summit]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[tame summit]

Speaking of which..

[spice drift]

how do i add a game manager
how do i add a grid
how do i add spawns
how do i add coins
how do i add backgrounds

(👽)

[tame summit]

👽

[spice drift]

(/srs how do i 🥹)

[tame summit]

(use the template level in the game's files)

(it already has everything)

[spice drift]

(oh)

[spice drift]

kirby mass attack tile 🤔

[tame summit]

:huh:

[stiff burrow]

wonderful

[white oriole]

you cant whirl after spining up with the propeller mushroom anymore, this mod is ass now

[tame summit]

We have a problem (and a background)

[spice drift]

is that the gold mine background

[tame summit]

no

that's the core level background

[spice drift]

o

[misty sinew]

ah, the classic. check the coin count, enemy spawns, basically everything.

[tame summit]

everything seems to be in check?

[stiff burrow]

add my level hyper /s

[tame summit]

when

[spice drift]

whats the level

[stiff burrow]

freezeflame

[spice drift]

o

[hearty berry]

players is set to 0 maybe try making it another number

[tame summit]

i set it to 10 but it's still not working

[spice drift]

try every number fr

[tame summit]

bet

wait actually nah

[stiff burrow]

i need help porting it to unity doe

[tame summit]

i just realised..

the problem is applying to all levels

um

[spice drift]

u can do what hypercat does

take a screenshot (or screenshots if level is too big) with 100% zoom on nsmbe and then u can copy it on unity

[tame summit]

image --> trace it

[crystal tiger]

So true

[stiff burrow]

i have this

@spice drift

[spice drift]

o

turn on the grid, take the screenshots with 100% zoom and it makes it easier to copy on unity

not sure about the mushroom platforms tho but atleast everything else will work

[tame summit]

welp

i can't even test my own levels anymore

cuz the players are comletely broken

[tame summit]

that tileset is really cool

especially the blocks

[stiff burrow]

still havent removed the 2 coins that are impossible to reach

[spice drift]

lmao

[spice drift]

check dis out

(why am i even posting this in the wonder thread)

[tame summit]

SMB2 Tileset :O

oh wait no i'm dumb

[stiff burrow]

hey @misty sinew

[tame summit]

He said no apparently

(he's walking atm)

[misty sinew]

hey guys

[spice drift]

h

i actually thought it was some obscure language at first 👽

[stiff burrow]

add my level now

if you want to

[old kestrel]

play srb2 now

[misty sinew]

please shut up

[crystal tiger]

Spit your shit indeed Gabriel

I just fucking realized oh my God

Nevermind DONT spit your shit

[misty sinew]

warps under the lava?

[gilded bane]

lol

[patent shoal]

for metal wonder effect

[misty sinew]

ah

interesting

but, metal's interesting. when the effect runs out you don't die if you're in lava.

[patent shoal]

also the level works fine without the pipes below the lava

[nova hound]

most likely because the lava checks for collision only one time, when the player enters it, not on each frame while they're inside it. so the metal player goes in, the lava checks for collisions and sees nothing, then the metal runs out and nothing else happens

[misty sinew]

ill see what i can do about it

[nova hound]

might need to recheck for collisions right when it runs out. dunno

a funny bug happens in vanilla too where you can stand inside an enemy forever without it hurting you if you overlap with it while you're in i-frames

[misty sinew]

here's my crappy solution.

[nova hound]

fair enough, hope it won't hit performance a lot

[misty sinew]

hope

[nova hound]

(the sequel to wonder)

[stiff burrow]

💔

[spice drift]

what if sewers had lava from the top and bottom locking one of the floors 🤔

would need to make a whole new map for that tho 👽

[misty sinew]

it crashed when i tried to grab a powerup 👽

[fervent minnow]

how you actin rn

[tame summit]

@misty sinew Could you test this rq

[misty sinew]

one minute

fixing wall climb

[tame summit]

I know you are NOT dead

You are dead 2: the sequel

[spice drift]

beware it doesnt break like in ur mod :alien

[misty sinew]

i'm spying on people

[spice drift]

how would a pipe rock plateau level look like.... (in mvl)

[covert parcel]

the spin jump is so weird

[misty sinew]

i made a badge that makes you immune to the small/big effect with the slight downside of you are a migit

at all times

[spice drift]

this sounds silly

hey hypercat

how about

dash badge

🤔

(no, not fast dash, i mean dash like na actual dash)

[tough quail]

celeste dash

[spice drift]

yea that

what grape said

!!

[misty sinew]

confusing

bullet

[covert parcel]

radioactive pebble

[misty sinew]

why is he radioactive?

[tame summit]

Is the level design good?

[misty sinew]

@tame summit your problem was the background

all children of the Backgrounds gameobject have to have sprite renderers

so, just remove the Core object and parent it's children to Backgrounds.

(as i did in the image)

[untold kestrel]

im waking up to ash and dust

[misty sinew]

NO\

[untold kestrel]

i wipe my ass and i slap my nuts

this is it, the memepocalypse

[spice drift]

@misty sinew maybe? with the semisolid leaves

[covert parcel]

you only take damage if you spin jump into it

look at the hights it goes too

lastly

[untold kestrel]

is anyone else having issues with the propeller suit, or is it just me

i cant seem to fly

[covert parcel]

you have to use the powerup action button

not the spin button

[misty sinew]

spin != powerup

[untold kestrel]

so rigged

[covert parcel]

I'm-a try and rip the spin sounds from wonder

[tame summit]

Thanks

[spice drift]

ngl smbw 1-1 works quite decently as an mvl stage

[tame summit]

Really?

Cool

[spice drift]

or looks like

lol

[tame summit]

Now add fluff puff peaks

[spice drift]

jump jump jump

[tame summit]

[untold kestrel]

PEAK

[tame summit]

Do you like the level

I have to know

[misty sinew]

there's not much

[tame summit]

Yeah it's wip

[misty sinew]

can't say I like it because there isn't enough to work with.

[tame summit]

Fair.

I did try to incorporate wall jumping a bit more

[viscid canyon]

hmmm.. lacks something to be desired.

i wonder if the layout can be modified slightly

[spice drift]

cooking????

[misty sinew]

COOKING????

[spice drift]

dont question the foating coin lmao

floating

[viscid canyon]

you are cooking something

[misty sinew]

guys there's too many levels

i can't test new badges easily

[viscid canyon]

wonder if the wonder flower will be placed in roughly the same location.

[tame summit]

AYO??

[spice drift]

that spot where the first 10 flower coin spawns is gonna be a wonder flower

[tame summit]

Just use grassland

[viscid canyon]

how about a test level that you only can play?

[spice drift]

i think good levels to test on are grass, sky or gsky and fort or sewers

a flat one, a vertical one, and a crampy one

👍

[misty sinew]

i need to test them on all stages to decide if it should be the new reccomended badge.

[viscid canyon]

great idea!

[tame summit]

Or maybe we just remake badge challenges from the vanilla game

[spice drift]

o

[tame summit]

And give them to hyper as test

[misty sinew]

but at this point i'm not adding official badges

[spice drift]

damn what???

[tame summit]

Huh

[spice drift]

how about celeste dash badge

ok ishould stop saying that now

[tame summit]

[viscid canyon]

true....but that does not mean we can suggest new ones that are not in the game, right?

[tame summit]

But really, we need that

It's as simple as press button --> speed go fast

[tame summit]

It absolutely does

[misty sinew]

the laughing in Metal Scratchin' with the time effect is funny ngl.
eggman be laughing for real

[tame summit]

Oh wait.

I just realized Metal + goldmine.cs is gonna be hell

[misty sinew]

stop with goldmine.cs 😭

[tame summit]

No

[spice drift]

one thing is that the map is prob gonna be decently big
but not more than ice probably

i have 3 chunks left and it'll be bigger than cie

not too bad of a problem tbh

[viscid canyon]

like maybe a "Super Kick" badge, where you can charge a super kick while holding a shell that makes it go further than normal.

[spice drift]

wait this is actually fire tho

closest we have to that is shell repulsion

[misty sinew]

fun fact: in nsmbds a vs stage's width must be a multiple of 4 chunks

[tame summit]

Absolutely gaming

[spice drift]

(ground pound a shell mid air)

[spice drift]

yeaaa

2, 4, or 8

[tame summit]

Never 1

[misty sinew]

never 3

[viscid canyon]

never 5

[tame summit]

Newer Beehive

(coming to nsmbvs wonder this week!)

[harsh topaz]

its not letting me join.... grr...

[misty sinew]

L
_ _

[patent shoal]

is this good?

[misty sinew]

why didn't you use star coins for the wonder flower spots?

[viscid canyon]

looks nice

[tame summit]

Wonderful, isn't it

[misty sinew]

Wonderful!

[patent shoal]

I got lazy

[tame summit]

Huh

[exotic island]

real