🔧 MvLO Mod Loader

[left plume]

Latest should work, 4.2 mono

[cedar mica]

ok

[queen parrot]

hey i have a question

i download the portable one

its in v3

if i download the v4 with the portable one too

is my saves files gone?

PLS REPLY😭

[left plume]

No, everything will be preserved including settings and downloaded mods

[queen parrot]

k thx alot

[proper bane]

vic i have a feeling that the playtime is broken in v4 🥹

ill have to confirm in like 30 mins

[left plume]

Odd! I haven't changed the calculation for the time played

[proper bane]

nvm its functional

we good 👍

i was thinking so cause i remember playing vcmi yesterday for over an hour but my playtime was still on 149 hours
played wonder earlier and it went from 46 to 47 so ye

[manic cloak]

you wake up and immediately start playing wonder mod... sob

[proper bane]

no..? i woke up hella earl

👽

[manic cloak]

even worse you woke up at 2am just to immediately play vics mod...

[proper bane]

i couldntn even!!! my internet died yesterday in the middle of the afternoon and didnt come back till today,,,,

[manic cloak]

you stole the Internet..

[proper bane]

actually everyone's internet died

[left plume]

Update: added the Doodler's Mayhem and Jakly's Level Pack mods.
(this process is automatic, please give it a couple of minutes if you don't yet see it)

Sorry for taking so long on the first one, enjoy

[near kiln]

Yippee :D

[proper bane]

wowe

someone else pleas release a mod so mine can be on the 35th 🙏🙏

or 30th

[split cove]

Beg Vic To Add Kooper Mod,

Boom Solved Your problem

[proper bane]

true...

[split cove]

[left plume]

Welp, with discord making shared files have an expiration date, builds of mods sent via a direct message will have partial support on the mod loader and will need to be manually installed. Mods affected are:

• Cado's Mod
• Mountain Madness
• Steven's Character Mod
• Wii Remote Support
  If your mod is in this list, please consider distributing it via itch.io or github instead of Discord. Thanks for understanding

[crisp anchor]

hi vic

[left plume]

hello romanian

[rose idol]

might as well release the modern version

but I’ll do it when I finish the POC of my new mod

[left plume]

Aight, I'll be waiting patiently

[autumn ingot]

You're already gonna release the first version?

[rose idol]

probably

but I will have to add it to a new fork first

[left plume]

GitHub won't let you make more than one fork of the same repo, stupidly enough. You'll have to put it in the same repo but on another branch... At least that's the solution I had to follow

[rose idol]

Ah

[dim spire]

200 hours cap

[proper bane]

damn i been beated.... (not at vcmi tho....)

[rough herald]

that thing never worked for me

[proper bane]

what thing

[rough herald]

never

nvm just checked

it does work

for some

i love having no time

[left plume]

@dim spire @rough herald this bug has been resolved in the latest version, v4. You're using v3 which is pretty old

[rough herald]

makes sense.

guess ill have to use v4 now..............................

[left plume]

It's better I promise lol

Why did you stay on v3 btw

[rough herald]

lazy

also

what's the diff

[left plume]

Get the setup it's an installer, easier

Portable is just if you don't have admin privileges

[rough herald]

it looks so cool..

also wtf creepy mario on fboc

[left plume]

See I told you...
Also it has a buncha bug fixes under the hood so yeah ok

[left plume]

It's the exe icon but I guess it got corrupted like creepy sonic

[rough herald]

halloween update

[left plume]

Welp if you still have the 200 hour bug after playing for a couple of hours tell me
Although it shouldn't be an issue I'm certain

[rough herald]

wha

wdym 200 hour

[rough herald]

this was just a ss of the thing above to show what didnt work for me 🥹 ............

[left plume]

Sorry I meant Snayp
I got confused with the screenshots

[rough herald]

but still thx lmao

[crisp anchor]

mvl hardoween

[rough herald]

YES

[dim spire]

What bug ? 🥹

[left plume]

I thought the 200 hours cap was a bug
I fixed some things with the time counter because it was a bit inaccurate

[dim spire]

No I legitimately played 200 hours, that's why I'm proud

[left plume]

Nice
Very cool

[mild garden]

does it have cubby's character mod

?

[crisp anchor]

no

not anymore

[mild garden]

bruh

why

like just why

[crisp anchor]

cubby's about me says it all

[near kiln]

Got taken down ages ago

Why the fuck did Sakurai send

[crisp anchor]

jump

[near kiln]

Fr

[left plume]

Because its official site got taken down by the original author, and it wouldn't work in the mod loader like that

[near kiln]

The closest you'll get to CCM today (while not the same) is Doodler's Mayhem (mid as hell)

[mild garden]

bruh i'm new at this place.

bro are you going to finish or what

[near kiln]

I'm just telling you that's the closest you'll get

[near kiln]

Nah

[mild garden]

oh K

[near kiln]

Never

[mild garden]

-_-

[near kiln]

anyways time to go before I start chaos

[mild garden]

did i ask(just kidding this is a joke)

[rough herald]

FBOC counts for that too it was the only purpose

[drifting compass]

since when did literally every mod have ccm source code rah

[crisp anchor]

did you not know that doodlers mayhem was made from ccm source code

stupid

[drifting compass]

i did

dumbass

[crisp anchor]

oh ok

dumb

[drifting compass]

im literally in the mod bruh how do you expect me to not!!

[crisp anchor]

i forg

[drifting compass]

im talking about other mods

[crisp anchor]

ohhh

[near kiln]

I think foxyyy meant FBOC was like inspired off of CCM not that it's built around the code

[proper bane]

ye

[rough herald]

Yeah it was always meant to be like ccm

In other words

bootleg ccm

[near kiln]

Funny enough I have yet to play fboc

My lazy ass hasn't downloaded it yet

[rough herald]

would honestly tell you to wait until 1.5 or 2.0

But 2.0 isn't coming any time soon and 1.5 is half dead

vic frosty please help me i need to fix stuff 🥹 ....

[hardy cypress]

hi vic (again)

[left plume]

Hello ivy (once more)

[hexed stump]

the idea is simple

[rough herald]

the concept is very human

[left plume]

I need to create a tool or website that makes uploading new mods (not updates but brand new creations) quicker and easier. I've lately been very lazy or forgetful about taking care of new mods appearing in the loader, and I don't wanna fall behind

Hrm...

Cause rn I gotta go to my pc, into Godot, create a mod-data asset, upload that and a json with the download URLs to the server, also download the icon and cover images from discord and edit them if they're too big or small and such

A horrible process I've created here!!

[carmine swift]

Hello

[left plume]

Hi hi hello

[balmy elm]

hey @left plume sorry for the ping but later can you change the icon of the mod loader and add the game icon pls?

[left plume]

Sure, send over the new images you'd like

[balmy elm]

oke, when i get on da computa i will send u

[hardy cypress]

@left plume can my Wii Remote mod be removed please?

[left plume]

Alright

[hardy cypress]

thank you

[left plume]

Unrelated but what the heck? The server has been non operational for the last three days. Just constantly spitting out errors, yikes. As such some mods might be showing outdated versions, sorry for the inconvenience. Will fix very soon

this every single hour since wednesday, lol

[balmy elm]

here is the icon and the executable icon

[left plume]

Actually, it did succeed two hours after this, before going back to failing. what the hell?
it also just errors out at random parts
is itch's api freaking out or what

[left plume]

awesome, thanks

[balmy elm]

low quality icon

[left plume]

tiny update: server is operational again and the mod gallery should be back and up to date. i've added some more safety measures in place, hopefully this doesn't happen again

[left plume]

Update: added the Vargskelethor Edition and Moddimation VS Lust mods.
(this process is automatic, please give it a couple of minutes if you don't yet see it)

[mild thicket]

Lets goooo

Appreciate it

[mild garden]

i looked it's there i guess

[mild thicket]

Hi vic, I updated my Mod's Icon do you mind if you replace it later?

(Talking about the Moddimation VS Lust mod ofc)

[proper bane]

3d 🗣️

[mild thicket]

3DS

[left plume]

Sure, give me a minute

[mild thicket]

Amazing

[snow field]

still a humongus effort from your part, thanks a tad lot vic

[fast garden]

my work

i feel honored

[proper bane]

dam i never saw this

so pretty....

[left plume]

I'm sure in there you can find a lot of neat settings to customise the behaviour of the mod loader further
Most are suggestions made by the users!

Also I have it set to that colour too it's Quite Aesthetic

[manic cloak]

you should hide a reference to vic somewhere

[left plume]

I'm listed as the author in the about page lol

Is that enough...?

[manic cloak]

no!

hide a vic somewhere

[left plume]

O-ok

[gusty onyx]

put it behind all the ui

[left plume]

Yeah maybe it can appear behind the main container if you resize the window into a weird shape

[proper bane]

sugggs....?

[proper bane]

(did u get inspired by the thing in dms...)

[split cove]

Uh, WebGl Isn't Supposed To Be Downloaded...

Anyways Could You Replace The Bomb Icon With This?

[proper bane]

(you may wanna resize it so that it doesnt look low quality when resized by the app)

[split cove]

Too Bad

[left plume]

Suggestions
It's just a list so I don't forget

[left plume]

Don't worry, original resolution of 32x32 is better because the app is set to preserve the pixel integrity so it still looks crisp when resizing
Plus saves space...

Sure, I can change it soon

[left plume]

You should mark it as hidden in your itch.io page. The program isn't able to make the difference between web and not web and just shows it too "just in case"

Oh wait, it is hidden in the actual page. Dunno why it's showing there then... It doesn't seem to happen with other mods like vcmi. I'll look into it, might be weird itch.io API stuff

[split cove]

huh

[left plume]

it's fixed now. thx for the report

[proper bane]

o

[split cove]

Bruh My Antivirus Deleted Mod Loader Again 🥹
If Only I know How To Whitelist It Lol

[left plume]

What antivirus you using?

[crisp anchor]

im guessing windows security

since it does that sometimes

[left plume]

Window would normally just say "it's not safe to run this program", not straight up delete it, from what I know...
So annoying. Maybe using the setup instead of the portable version would help

Mfw not only huge companies that buy expensive certificates make programs and games:

[proper bane]

i use windows defender and it surprisingly didnt delete any of the programs (both mod exes and the mod loader itself), it only pops up the thing vic said

[split cove]

Avaria
It Likes To Delete It When It Does Like A Uh, Refresh Or Something.
A Consistent Way, Clicking Re Download RB Button (Or Whatever It's Called) It Likes To Give Warnings, & Clicking The Wrong Buttons Out Of Instinct Will Remove The "Threat". :P

[left plume]

Hm. Never heard of it

I'm sure it has a "keep file" button somewhere

Oh you mean Avira?

I see

[split cove]

ye lol

[paper flax]

Hi vic again again again

[left plume]

Hello mariogamer

[mild garden]

@left plume why does this happend ?

[left plume]

try uninstalling it and launching it from the Mod Gallery instead of the Storage Usage tab

maybe some files got moved around

[balmy elm]

10 players mod on the image

[mild thicket]

Moddimation VS Lust Mod in the image

[left plume]

vcmi (maybe it's corrupted or incompatible) in the image

[mild garden]

ik it's fun

[mild garden]

thx

[proper bane]

no frost in the image ....

[mild thicket]

Appreciate the feedback

[left plume]

Doesn't exist yet...

[mild garden]

bro your game can't be downloaded

cause it still in progress

[near kiln]

No Doodler's Mayhem, Mayro vs Luggy, or Varg edition spotted

[mild garden]

bro it's the 1st month for me using that

[near kiln]

I'm just being alittle silly

[mild garden]

a littel silly :P

[mild garden]

i'mma download them

[near kiln]

varg edition is mid as fuck

[mild garden]

intresting

[left plume]

WROOONG, SHIT FOR BRAINS

[mild garden]

:) hi vic

[left plume]

Hello meddourk95

[mild garden]

how r u?

[left plume]

I'm ok

[mild garden]

me too

[near kiln]

I FUCKING MADE IT DAMMIT

[left plume]

ok sorry

[mild garden]

i played it it's kid

[near kiln]

It's alright vic

[left plume]

Phew

[paper flax]

Wait what

[near kiln]

Kid like like

[mild garden]

why reacted by baby and i said kid

[paper flax]

I sent tha babies around your message

[mild thicket]

Bah

[paper flax]

You're gonna love it

[mild garden]

bruh

[paper flax]

Just like your age

[mild garden]

man you're a baby (a new born)

[paper flax]

Abortion

[mild garden]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-funny-gif-11614284

i will do this to u

[mild garden]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-gif-19032707

(sry if it's bad or toxic)

[near kiln]

Compared to Doodler's Mayhem and Mayro Vs luggy it's mid as fuck so definitely the worst out of the 3 mods I made I did so little with it

[mild garden]

so you made them all ????????????????????

[near kiln]

Yea

[mild garden]

ur invisible

[rough herald]

h

[near kiln]

On COD

[near kiln]

Hi foxyyy

[paper flax]

Yur foxy

[mild garden]

oh K

[rough herald]

i have no fucking clue

what the fuck yall talking about

i will proceed to dematerialize

[paper flax]

Seizure

[mild garden]

about............................mods

[near kiln]

Also what the fuck do you mean by this

[mild garden]

ur status

[near kiln]

Ah

[mild garden]

bruh XD K GTG

[paper flax]

I mean hes idle?

[mild garden]

no

[mild garden]

byee for my self

[paper flax]

Also why do you care about people's status

[near kiln]

Fr

[mild garden]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-sigma-squidward-meme-tiktok-reaction-gif-574741893352575449 (did i say ask me ?)

[drifting compass]

tf even is this gif br

[mild garden]

the built in discord gif

[split cove]

Ok... I Think My Antivirus Got A Update Recently.
It's Been Deleting The Mod Loader 300% Times More Than Before...
Luckly I Still Have The Zip So i Still have It

[left plume]

Add it to the whitelist!!!

[split cove]

||Idk how||

[left plume]

Google...

[mild thicket]

Bing

[split cove]

||IDK How... ||

[left plume]

bruh............................................

idk how
😮

[split cove]

...

||Still Don't Know How ||

[left plume]

so for those who wanted a "minimize/hide to system tray" feature for this but i told it wasn't possible in godot, good news. it seems this may be possible in the close future lol

[left plume]

itch.io seems to be down, so some mods might be unavailable for download (you're good if it's already installed though)
this has been going for some hours, so strange

[manic cloak]

what if vic was instead named lick

[left plume]

no

ew

😠

[mild garden]

what is wrong with you !?!?!

[near kiln]

Shoo

[manic cloak]

😇

[mild garden]

wierdo

[manic cloak]

okay but what if vic was named tick

[mild garden]

ticket ?????

tick

why

why ?

[left plume]

where's the k coming from

[mild garden]

the void

[manic cloak]

it's close enough to c

[mild garden]

uuh enough

[left plume]

mic mic
- the roadrunner

[manic cloak]

what if vic was named plick

no too simple

[mild garden]

what the dog doing

plick

wtffff

[manic cloak]

what if vic was named pick

and picked up every mod

[mild garden]

STOP

[manic cloak]

what if vic was named click

and played cookie clicker

[mild garden]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414

plz stop yapping

[manic cloak]

yes!

[mild garden]

ooh ohhh

man

[manic cloak]

vics eight crazy nights

@left plume new inator name 😇

[mild garden]

plz stop

[near kiln]

Vics 8 wild rulesets

[mild garden]

:|

:|
:(

[near kiln]

[mild garden]

:-(

[split cove]

Vics Friend Named Vcmi's Mod Of Doom 8 Nights Of Terror & Bliss

[hardy cypress]

"Installing mod..."
(I'm actually installing vanilla MvL)

[left plume]

Critical bug

[proper bane]

do u guys ever
load in the modders

[wide mantle]

i unload in the modders all the time

[left plume]

this is my face when i'm about to load some mods

[proper bane]

pin crash pum tink pow!

2 new mods have been added

[left plume]

Update: added the NSMB: Batte R mod.
(this process is automatic, please give it a couple of minutes if you don't yet see it)

[balmy elm]

thank u vic

[left plume]

my pleasure

[hardy cypress]

Batte

[rough herald]

Batle

[arctic gust]

Does this work with mobile?

[balmy elm]

No

(as far i know)

[left plume]

There are no mods available for mobile, maybe one or two
So it wasn't worth it making a version for them

[mild garden]

bruh

why is it called like this ?

[rough herald]

it's the description of what it does

peakest name

[west cradle]

truly

[left plume]

thankfully that was an easy bug to fix. the issue was, of course, i just did a booboo and had my if statements in the wrong order

[mild thicket]

just sayin, steven's Character Mod doesn't work too

in da launcher

[left plume]

oh yeah, that's expalined here ↑

[mild thicket]

oh ok

[left plume]

basically just discord having links expire. that's not my fault
Generally it's not a good idea to host files or mods in our case via discord

[mild thicket]

my bad lol

[left plume]

no probs

btw if anyone got any other bugs or features you want to see, do tell. there is basically no stuff to add so a new version having this fix above is not too likely to happen soon

which is good but you know

[mild thicket]

Ye sure

also how do I like add those little icons in my mod in the loader?

example using kkt mod ig

[left plume]

I have to add them myself manually lol

[mild thicket]

oh

[left plume]

so the answer is, just tell me and send me the icon and i'll get around to doing it

I usually get them from the .exe icon

[mild thicket]

also can I like opt out from not using this in NSLB? (Sorry if I am being annoying)

instead of turning it off manually

as the og NSMB w/ mod loader doesnt use this

[left plume]

cause the mvlo modding scene is kinda unusual? like all mods are very unique so i can't have a standardized automated method, and i gotta do it all myself
so you're all good to tell me if you wanna change something

[left plume]

sure

that's normally enabled for mods that don't have a different discord activity name but ig i missed it

[mild thicket]

I already have RPC in NSLB

[mild thicket]

fair enough

also what resolution is used in the big image?

oops

[left plume]

it's something around 500 or 600 pixes wide or tall

all of that is to reduce the size of the download on boot (while still having them as crisp PNGs and not crusty JPEGs)

[mild thicket]

I probably will change the image of it, but you can reuse the waluigi icon as this smaller one used

Oh god not JPEGs lmao

[left plume]

neat, you know where to find me when you got that ready

[mild thicket]

I'll quickly get it in 500 or 600 and drop it here

oops

I am tired lmao

alright here is the replacement for the big image in the mod loader

you can just reuse the waluigi icon next to the details about the mod

[left plume]

got it

Maybe a good idea would be to make a little section in the mod loader for mod developers to freely make changes to their mods

and automate the process lol idk at this point

[mild thicket]

Kinda true-ish

Just make sure they cant fuck up anything like renaming it to a bunch of bad words or having malware with in the attachments

[proper bane]

true..

[left plume]

yeah i'd have to moderate the process

[proper bane]

i think vic could make it so they can only change the name and icon

cause you're uploading the attachments to itch regardless

[left plume]

yeah the only download sources are github and itch

i have made a terrible mistake.

forgot to resize the icon - and the code doesn't scale it down on its own

give me just a second

[mild thicket]

Played for 8 minutes, I appreciate that tho :)

[gusty onyx]

not so small anymore

[left plume]

i tried it out alone and loved it, i didn't have the chance since then to join other public lobbies

[mild thicket]

With the bare content it currently has I am happy to have some sort of good feedback

[left plume]

Update: added the NSMBVS Frosted mod.
(this process is automatic, please give it a couple of minutes if you don't yet see it)

[proper bane]

lmao 👽

[mild thicket]

Chubby Cloud

I am not to judge

[left plume]

when the pixel is not perfect

[mild thicket]

Emulation:

[left plume]

i always say it but the biggest crime in the emulation space is all emulators out there having bilinear filtering enabled by default

i'm gonna puke

[mild thicket]

who actually uses bilinear filtering?

Bleh

[split cove]

Bob Does,
Bob Sucks

[mild thicket]

The Builder?

[left plume]

way too many people
and not by choice but just cause it's enabled by default and they don't change it

[split cove]

No

Just bob

[left plume]

i especially see it with yters or streamers and it makes me sad

[mild thicket]

I think melonDS has it on by default

I don't remember tho

[left plume]

yup, it does. it's very common unfortunately

[mild thicket]

Oh my days

[left plume]

like a CRT filter for 80s/90s consoles, ok fine
but literally here's a blurry mess for what's meant to be crispy stuff like the GBA or DS? come one man!! man!!

cause that's literally what it is, just blurring

[mild thicket]

Almost as bad as audio smoothing on the wii u

[left plume]

:( so ranty but it always gets me

[mild thicket]

I really dislike the DS VC audio on the wii u

It just sounds... Odd?

Also why are we discussing this here-

[proper bane]

do i need to gib u it in a smaller or larger size?

or idk lmao

[proper bane]

oh

[manic cloak]

GROSS

YUCK

[proper bane]

if smaller use dis

or dis if bigger (literally halved or double)

[left plume]

exaggerated
dramaticized
overreacted

[proper bane]

so true

[left plume]

thanks, i'd need it in the original 32x32 or 64x64 if you've got it

although 256 might work too

like, one pixel per pixel if i'm making sense

[proper bane]

bigger than any other

[mild thicket]

NSLB

[left plume]

tiny 😊 saves space 😊

[proper bane]

grr

[balmy elm]

battle r on the image!

[balmy elm]

battle r on the image!

[rough herald]

1.5 will destroy your ass

[mild garden]

LMFAO

i've downloaded more

[mild thicket]

nah

[near kiln]

644... for Doodler's Mayhem...

ALMOST A WHOLE FUCKING GB

[mild thicket]

NSLB v.0.3.0 is going to be the entire internet

[near kiln]

Maybe maybe not

[mild garden]

nah

wait

WTF

we have same mods

lmfao

[rough herald]

no fboc

[rough herald]

there's no fboc

[mild thicket]

Sorry!

[left plume]

1 minuto

[mild thicket]

Atleast not a second

[rough herald]

lmao

btw vic you said you change this image yourself or

cuz i wanna change it

[left plume]

Yes, send it my way

[rough herald]

but not now

i still need to finish 1.5

(this is killing me)

[balmy elm]

vic why i cant close the download screen, like, when u download a mod. it appears "installing mod"

like, if i wanna download other mod at the same time, i need to wait

idk how to explain it

[balmy elm]

or maybe cancel the download

[left plume]

Yeah it's not possible to download multiple things at once because that's kinda how I implemented and coded it since the very beginning and it'd be difficult to change now
But I guess I can still have it so you can browse other stuff? Or like queue them so it goes one after the other

Or at least cancel like you said lol

What's funny is that if you press ESC it won't cancel it, it'll just get annoyed at you

[autumn ingot]

That is kind of strange

How could the old version of WWM be less 100mb but when ported maps to NSLB it went to 300MB+??

[proper bane]

(music)

[split cove]

Prob Unoptimized Music

[proper bane]

what are the formats used

because u need to like, use .ogg as a must

or mp3

[proper bane]

@autumn ingot

[autumn ingot]

ogg

@proper bane

I always use ogg

Does different file type change the quality? 🤔

[proper bane]

yes

wav has no compression, flac i think keeps og quality, ogg i think has the least file size depending on which rate you leave it in when exporting

mp3 uhh prob the worst 👽

[left plume]

Yeah basically lol
fu nnfact... wav can more quality than flac becau uncompressed...

Also ogg/vorbis I think is a bit lighter in the context of real time playback in game engines

[mild thicket]

We talkin about audio?

[left plume]

We talkin about audio.

[mild thicket]

Is it just me or are (almost) all web sfx starting late

Espeically walking

[left plume]

mmmm nah I don't experience that

[mild thicket]

Hm

Thats weird

[autumn ingot]

o

[drifting compass]

hi, toasted is unavaible for download

[proper bane]

hu

[drifting compass]

not sure when itll be back but ill try to get the april fools build somewhere

im working on it again

meaning the itch.io page is for playtesting again

so like

yea

[proper bane]

i just got smt called ''gamefile not detected'' and then ''7 new mods have beeen added''

help

[left plume]

do you have a screenshot of that?

[proper bane]

no i closed it lmao

and reopened

it worke

but i think its to do with what miyav said

bc check mvl media

[left plume]

oh ok
might've been the server going down for a sec

anyway if you still got issues or weird behaviour go to settings and delete DB then restart... I guess lol

[proper bane]

vic i think the mod loader doesnt record playtime in realtime

i played frosted for about 6 hrs today but it only went up by 2

[autumn ingot]

Maybe you need to keep the Mod Loader open?

[proper bane]

i've had it open this whole time lmao

[autumn ingot]

zamn

[left plume]

It should be realtime... I mean it has worked fine for me until now

What this means is that I don't know where this potential bug might come from

[left plume]

Hypothesis: the timer I'm using to count up lags behind when the loader is minimised, since I set the project to run on CPU saving mode cause it's more than enough
I'll try changing to another method of doing this next version, have it be less janky
Although I do wanna do some tests, give me 6 hours lol

[autumn ingot]

zamn

[dim spire]

delta time method incoming

[left plume]

I forgor to start the test and now it's too late

Yawn

[proper bane]

aw

[rough herald]

ok thank you

[proper bane]

huh

what happened

[balmy elm]

vic u think u should remove cado mod from the mod loader

the discord link doesnt work anymore

[split cove]

Aww... I Never Got To Play That Mod :P

[wide mantle]

hi foxy

[left plume]

What mod you getting that error on?

[proper bane]

my recycle bin casually having 1 file named ‘DB’ almost all the time

[hardy cypress]

I wonder what it stands for

[gusty onyx]

database maybe idk

[left plume]

yeah, database. it's just all the names, icons and download links of the mod gallery

[rough herald]

frosted

it was just antivirus shenanigans

[proper bane]

huh.....................................

[rough herald]

Read

[proper bane]

i

know

👽

[rough herald]

then shut up

[proper bane]

then stop crying

its not that deep....

[minor trail]

uh by any chance where can i download the MvLO Mod Loader

[proper bane]

pins

[snow field]

@minor trail

[minor trail]

yea

i found it

[proper bane]

😭

[autumn ingot]

I love that program

[mild garden]

best program frfr

[left plume]

I have no words

[oak wing]

is it just me or when i open it it starts opening random instaces of mvLO?

[rough herald]

surely just your issue

[left plume]

please go into the mod loader settings (the fourth tab at the top) and tell me what version it says you're using

[balmy elm]

hey vic uhhhh where is sound mod?

[left plume]

I haven't added it yet to the server. I've been slacking off, sorry

[manic cloak]

don't worry vic

we won't rush you

for the first five days

[mild thicket]

If Sound Mod does make it in the Mod Loader, make sure to uh disable the Rich Presence like in NSLB since it already has that implimented

[mild thicket]

if the day will ever occur that it

[autumn ingot]

@left plume

[left plume]

tell me

[mild thicket]

I think its bc of Sound Mod?

idk

[autumn ingot]

Yeah

[left plume]

yeah i alr read the messages don't worry

[proper bane]

v0.0.0

[left plume]

no response :(

[mild thicket]

Me when no response

me when no sound mod (I am impatient, sorry vic)

[proper bane]

he prob busy and hasnt had the time to add it

or

idk

[mild thicket]

Or I am impatient

Probably what I said cuz I am douchebag and want everything quick

[hardy cypress]

I would recommend something for the loader but it seems like vic is very busy

tags

[autumn ingot]

what kind of tags tho

[hardy cypress]

new features, new gamemodes, new powerups, new maps, new characters, etc

[proper bane]

thta could be cool actually

[autumn ingot]

indeed

i agree with this

[proper bane]

smb mario sprite for characters,
map sprite for maps
powerup sprite for powerups

[hardy cypress]

I ACTUALLY HAD ICONS IN MIND

[proper bane]

gamemodes ig a gamepad

[hardy cypress]

and hovering would reveal in a tooltip what the new things are?

[proper bane]

yeye

[hardy cypress]

but when there's a lot it would just say: "and more!"

this would definitely happen with most mods, especially with KingKittyTurnip's Gooffy Little Mod

I know most people fix the spelling mistake but I made it accurate

[autumn ingot]

I just realized how big KKT mod actually is

[hardy cypress]

KKT's mod is actually pretty beeffy and I do want to make my mod as beefy

I almost made it sound fucking wrong

sorry

[autumn ingot]

lmao

[autumn ingot]

wait wdym beefy

[hardy cypress]

very big

[autumn ingot]

o

[proper bane]

i think nslb is the biggest

that or my mod

wait big in what way do yall mean

file size or mod content?

(or both)

[mild thicket]

I heard NSLB

[autumn ingot]

content

size would be 10p and NSLB

[proper bane]

yea kkt

[proper bane]

frosted where 🥹

[left plume]

I'm not as busy no more so dw

Yeah tags is a great idea esp since the descriptions currently aren't too descriptive

I guess I and the mod author would be the ones in charge of assigning them tags? Right?

[proper bane]

yur

[hardy cypress]

ye

I could draw the icons

but I need to see what style must they be in and what tags you want to add

[autumn ingot]

For powerups use fire and mush icon

just like in powerup blocks

when making a map

for maps how about

[hardy cypress]

giddy sky reference

sounds nice?

[autumn ingot]

a pixel art of the structure of an already existing map
like the RPC of grassland

[hardy cypress]

ah

[autumn ingot]

im just giving ideas btw

[hardy cypress]

alr

for characters should it be generic or a specific reference? (Example: Wario, Dry Bones)

(or one of my OCs)

[autumn ingot]

i think mario and luigi from the NSMBDS cover

[mild garden]

ok maybe

[hardy cypress]

tbh I'm not sure what the size will be and idk if it will be pixel art

[autumn ingot]

yeah

[mild garden]

luigi's full foot thing

[hardy cypress]

pixel art seems fitting tbh

[autumn ingot]

i agree

[hardy cypress]

but idk what the size will be

[autumn ingot]

NDS effect:

i think that would help

[hardy cypress]

actually the icons in the top aren't pixel art

they're just small icons

what if they were here?

[autumn ingot]

good

[left plume]

the icons would just have this flat, unstylized look to keep them consistent

these are 16x16 (with antialiasing aka not pixelart)

[proper bane]

me when illusion with antialiasing

[left plume]

i got them from uhh the IcoMoon and Iconoir packs

[hardy cypress]

ah

[hardy cypress]

is the anti-aliasing transparent?

[left plume]

yes

[hardy cypress]

maybe I can but I'm not sure if it'll clash

[mild thicket]

Day (idk anymore) about being impatient for sound mod (sorry)

[left plume]

don't worry about it if it's a hassle for you, I can keep using the same icon pack in any case (appreciate your willingness to help though)

[proper bane]

vic add sound mod whilst u can!!!

[mild thicket]

Yes pls

Let it live on before

Make a Lustario Happy

[left plume]

evil vic: yes i'll add new mod immediately instead of waiting a week

[mild thicket]

dies lmao

[balmy elm]

what good vic would say?...

[left plume]

🛌 ** **

[mild thicket]

Good Vic: Fuck off Lust

[hardy cypress]

I just wanted to do a passive reference to my commission~

[balmy elm]

LMAO

relatable

[hardy cypress]

as the custom characters

[left plume]

o

[hardy cypress]

y'know what I'm talking about?

[mild thicket]

If I wake up and see Sound Mod in the loader

I will not hate myself for a week

Kthxbai

[left plume]

*breathes in*

Update: added MvLO Sound Mod.
(this process is automatic, please give it a couple of minutes if you don't yet see it)

[mild thicket]

We DID IT

We are SO BARRACK

[left plume]

I apologize again it took so long. Won't happen again (?)

i really gotta make this process more efficient for me

[autumn ingot]

btw vic

did you solve that music thing

[left plume]

what music thing?

[autumn ingot]

the music called dl-center 1 and 2

[mild thicket]

Can someone screenshot me the glory of it?

[left plume]

oh yeah sure, i'll end up going with dl-center 1. thx for giving me your opinions

[autumn ingot]

nice

[autumn ingot]

is it a main menu music?

[left plume]

no, it's the background music for the "downloadable content & updates" screen

[autumn ingot]

seems new

[left plume]

yup. vcmi v18 will receive new levels and other content automatically without needing a new build. players can check such new updates in that menu

[autumn ingot]

ohh

[left plume]

the og song is this one, which was used when connecting to the nintendo servers in pokemon gen 5 lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoCHr_0KmD4

[autumn ingot]

Wait you made the NSMB remix of it?

[left plume]

it's not a nsmb remix per se, it's just kinda what i've been doing with many of the current vcmi songs lol
basically just remove some of the foreground channels so only the accompaniment instrumentals come through. I like the way songs sound when doing so

the current main menu and loading songs, as well as the spectator music are examples of this

i use either nitro studio 2 or p3synth to do that, with the midis and soundfonts ripped directly from their respective games. each program has a different sound to them, and that's basically why i ended up having to decide between those two versions from some days ago

[autumn ingot]

btw vic

do u know better or higher quality resamplers
like plugins or music program to make NSMB remixes and music?
FL Studio sometimes fuck up with the quality of the instruments

[proper bane]

what.....

how....

actually you'll prob do smt like how u did for p3synth lol

[left plume]

i'll use the same strategy i used w the mod loader. basically have an unity asset/resource pack hosted on my server somewhere that vcmi will grab stuff from on boot
edit: the correct term was "asset bundle". just looked it up bc i forgot

[left plume]

nope, sorry. Haven't used any such music editing programs

i don't edit my midis more than just silencing some channels

[autumn ingot]

Okay then

[paper flax]

Hi vick

[split cove]

What if The Mod Loader Has A Counter For How Many People Are Playing A Specific Mod At A Time 🤔
I'd Bet That'd Be Very Annoying To Get Working, But Would be So Cool...

[rough herald]

me looking at my mod having 0 players

[autumn ingot]

me looking at my mod having no one even checking out

[left plume]

Thought about that, but not possible. I can't connect to the game's servers to check the amount of players, etc. from an external app

[proper bane]

what about downloads

that might be a abusable tho and could result in other mods losing their spotlight if another one has more downloads

[left plume]

I'd like to avoid that sort of user tracking tbh

[proper bane]

ye fair

[left plume]

I mean, I guess I could try to reverse engineer the part of the photon library that connects to a region and returns the list of lobbies. Could be a fun side project? Lol

[proper bane]

vic about to jailbreak networking

[split cove]

I Would've Thought So...

[proper bane]

since windows’ mod was in the mod loader before-

does that mean you’ll say ‘Re-added’ instead of added

[mild thicket]

maybe

[left plume]

Absolutely not

[mild thicket]

well then

[proper bane]

wait what 🥺

[mild thicket]

Sound Mod was enough for vic

[split cove]

Nah it Was Kooper Mod

[mild thicket]

Kooper Mod for Mod Loader!!!

[fluid sandal]

will there be a version for mobile

[proper bane]

im not sure vic would want to make a mobile version of the mod loader when the gallery for mods that have mobile ports is really small

pretty sure it’s like 5 or 6

[left plume]

the mods on the mod loader are currently for PC only. like frosty cake said, there are very few mods for android and it doesn't make sense to have the mod loader for phones

so no for now, sorry

[muted marsh]

why pc only?

[split cove]

He... Just Said...

:P

[muted marsh]

Well

I see what he said

But i still dont understand why it couldnt work

Essentially its a mod loader

So it takes the original rom

"rom"

And injects it right

So why not inject a mobile overlay automatically

[left plume]

The mod loader just downloads the games from the authors' itch.io or GitHub websites

It's not my decision to have it there be mods for pc only or for android too

[muted marsh]

ah

in that way

i thought it was an injector lol

[left plume]

Nah. The mods are made differently enough that it wouldn't be possible to patch them automatically

Sorry if the program's name caused confusion, I'll be the first to say it's kinda stupid lol

[muted marsh]

yeah its more of a mods downloader

but i get what u mean now

thanks

[left plume]

No problem

[mild thicket]

Where are those mods being hosted at, not their download, but where they show up?

[left plume]

The names, descriptions and cover art are on the GitHub repo. I update the assets every time I need to add a mod or modify one

And the Download links (not the mods themselves just the URLs to their normal official pages) are automatically scraped and distributed via my PythonAnywhere server

https://mvloml.vlcoo.net/DB.gamefiles.json

See? They're all in there nice and cozy

I do it this way to avoid individual people having to grab the URLs and getting a traffic limit from GitHub or itch on them. I have a bit more control like this

[mild thicket]

Theoretically I could make a mobile mod loader?

If I just bought a server or smth

If Godot would make android ports?

Fork of the repo and changing it ofc

[left plume]

Yes, it's possible to export it for Android. Then, you'd just have to modify the mod loader's code that launches an exe to something that installs an apk

[mild thicket]

Might try that once I am home

And then I'd had to filter so it downloads android and shows an android icon just like uhh windows macos and linux

If you help me like a bit, that be kinda epicly

[left plume]

Uh sure

[mild thicket]

Cool cool

[mild thicket]

@left plume hope you dont mind again, but could you hide nsmbmvlsmmobile from the Mod Loader, it is not something you're suppose to download lol

[left plume]

I can't do that currently. That menu shows all available downloads on itch

[mild thicket]

oh ok, my bad

I'll probably need to put the source open on github once frosty's v.1.7.1.1 comes out and has all new sounds

and for safety reasons I will remove the string to connect to vanilla servers in the source for obvious reasons

[left plume]

No problem
It's just that I haven't added any way to filter the links that I get through the itch.io API, if it's even possible. I'd have to see in a next version

[mild thicket]

k

[left plume]

Cool cool

[mild thicket]

mountain

super 64 mario

[mild garden]

sm64 coop

-# uhhh

[left plume]

Ds versus

[mild thicket]

Btw could you capitalize the A and L at ArianLust? In the Mod Loader by any chance?

[left plume]

Sure

[proper bane]

ArianLust

AL

[mild garden]

L

[proper bane]

ArianLust jungle

[mild garden]

u
s
t

wait what

[mild thicket]

Thats the actual meaning

[fluid sandal]

That's fine

[autumn ingot]

@left plume you gotta remove dotmod from the mods list

it's unavailable for download now

[manic cloak]

wait what! really!?

since when!?

[mild garden]

3 weeks or so idk

or maybe 4...

look at the thread...

[left plume]

done

mods that are unavailable or have been removed form their websites will be automatically removed now. it was an easy fix but i overlooked that detail back when making this version

[autumn ingot]

form

[proper bane]

not sound mod just casually having the tiniest mistake everytime 👽

[autumn ingot]

lmao...

why not make 1.7.1.1 1.7.1.10!!

[dim spire]

300 hours played!

[proper bane]

I only hav 110..

150 in vcmi

[dim spire]

(vic don't blame me for using the old loader)

[mild garden]

i only have 93..

[autumn ingot]

goddamn

[west cradle]

you must be pretty strong

https://tenor.com/view/goku-coming-run-gif-26281954

[autumn ingot]

Play time doesn't define your skill but yeah Snayp is strog

screw that end N

strog

[west cradle]

strog

love it

[paper flax]

snayp is strong dude

[autumn ingot]

idk i never played against him

[west cradle]

I should

[autumn ingot]

hes apparently strong thats the least i can say

[paper flax]

you played against him in tournament

i saw thatr

[west cradle]

goddamn I wish I could've participated in a tournament 😭

[paper flax]

mvlo dojo moment

[autumn ingot]

That was like, 3 matches
and i completely forgot how those went
What i remember is that i got close to winning one time

[paper flax]

did you played against electro

[autumn ingot]

The nerves of playing while lnowing you're being watched by others and its a tournament 💢

[west cradle]

electro?

[autumn ingot]

Yeah
in eu

hes a gud player
but ping ruins it all

[paper flax]

you probably dont know him

[west cradle]

yeah I dont

[paper flax]

i do clean sweep him sometimes

[autumn ingot]

Snayp plays with Electrowen most of the time

[paper flax]

dont forget alexis

[autumn ingot]

ye

We forgot player1...

[mild garden]

ye

[autumn ingot]

Ugh i dont wanna remember all Snayp gang

[paper flax]

i havent played with him since 3 months
i know he was better then me

[west cradle]

gang?!

[paper flax]

yes

[autumn ingot]

group

gang

team

whatever

friends

[west cradle]

ok so they had a team?

sounds cool

[autumn ingot]

shrug

[west cradle]

just type /shrug lol

[autumn ingot]

im too lazy

to do that

[west cradle]

It's ONE SLASH 😭

[mild garden]

bro just one slash 😭

[autumn ingot]

I ain't reacting double

[mild garden]

ok

[west cradle]

I am

[autumn ingot]

Maestrike you ruined it!

[west cradle]

🧌

[autumn ingot]

Thats it im Striking you

[autumn ingot]

wrong troll buddy

[west cradle]

get windows vista'd

[autumn ingot]

...

What the fridge!

[west cradle]

what the pudding

[autumn ingot]

fridges superior

wait

PUDDING?!

[west cradle]

never said it wasnt

🍮

[autumn ingot]

Thats a custard

[west cradle]

🍮

WHAT THE HELL IS A CUSTAAAAAAAARD 🦅

[autumn ingot]

u making me hungry stop

[west cradle]

🍕

🍔

🧀

[autumn ingot]

3 blocked messages

[west cradle]

💀

[mild thicket]

hi hi hello

[autumn ingot]

hi hi sup

[west cradle]

yo lust

[mild thicket]

hi maestrike

best friend

[west cradle]

<3

[mild garden]

🍖

[autumn ingot]

2 blocked users?

[west cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-the-fox-miles-tails-prower-sonic-tails-high-five-sonic-miles-high-five-gif-24362242

bro is mad 😭

[west cradle]

noice

[mild garden]

GG

[mild thicket]

btw maestrike this mod is kinda cool

[autumn ingot]

No i just have my DMs closed

[west cradle]

I trust that

[autumn ingot]

i gotta friend request you if you want to message me

[mild thicket]

I wonder why

[west cradle]

I eat anything you cook 🔥

[autumn ingot]

Maestrike i didn't block you!!

[west cradle]

yes I got that

[mild thicket]

gg

[west cradle]

(wow)

where do you hear the casino theme

[mild thicket]

Luigi's Minigames

[west cradle]

and the wario minigame

[mild thicket]

and Wario's minigame where you have to tap the blocks with coins

[autumn ingot]

on the minigames u dumbo

[west cradle]

I thought he was talking about mvlo

not the original

[mild thicket]

totally check out the thread :troll

[west cradle]

[mild thicket]

hence why I put NSMB: on there

[autumn ingot]

I hate sound mod thread i dont want to!!

[mild thicket]

welp

missing out on

[west cradle]

"How can I play this mario? There's no versus!"

[left plume]

gg!

why are you using old version grrr!!!! angry!!!!

[mild thicket]

vic can I use old loader?

[left plume]

from the previous versions, only v3 is still supported. v1 and v2 don't connect to the servers anymore

v4 mostly has bug fixes, a nicer theme, and support for more mods (such as homer's mod)

[autumn ingot]

The heck is this

[proper bane]

he privatized the itch.io page I think

[autumn ingot]

How am i supposed to download beta 4 again

[mild thicket]

just the builds

[left plume]

you have to wait until he reuploads them to itch

[autumn ingot]

Alr

for a second i thought mod loader was corrupt

[split cove]

Ah Yes, I Took Down The Builds Temporarily.
I Should Put Them back now

[dim spire]

Wrong

[dim spire]

Dw i remember

You didn't win a single one

[paper flax]

I just said that lol

I remember it too

[dim spire]

But mariogamer you said he became stronger so

[paper flax]

He does, I just lost 3 games against him in 1v1

I just won 4 times I guess 🥴

[dim spire]

[paper flax]

Windows never won against snayp 😭????

[dim spire]

Well, from the few matches we did

[autumn ingot]

less annoying than dreas :sunglasses

[paper flax]

I still remember that guy

[dim spire]

Grr

I remember too ofc

[proper bane]

same, sounds like he might be a tough opponent lol
the ping difference really gets in the way so

[manic cloak]

if you think that's stressful remember super smash bros tournaments are real and are more fair than mvlo hoho!

[autumn ingot]

oh yeah, also when i played with Snayp the ping were very high

so ofc it sucked a lot

Late reply haha

[dim spire]

We were both pinging I believe

had to play on 200+ ping against haruyoshi also

ended up in a clean sweep

[proper bane]

pins!

[paper flax]

he might found it

[autumn ingot]

haruyoshi is now way stronger than before

[paper flax]

he is?

[autumn ingot]

he improved a lot

[proper bane]

interesting popup

[mild thicket]

again check the sound mod thread

[proper bane]

ik lol

[left plume]

Something something updates every hour

You all know the drill

[paper flax]

Hi vic

[hybrid helm]

vic its not there 3 minutes after upload DO IT NOW !!!!!!

[proper bane]

half an hour

[proper bane]

3 + 0 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[left plume]

If I tell the server to scrape more often then I get rate limited grrr!!

[proper bane]

discord rate limited

[left plume]

By itch and GitHub from spamming them with requests skull emoji

[autumn ingot]

bro why is it idk still lmao

[atomic vessel]

secret

[left plume]

the internal ID is kept the same (instead just changing the mod title/name) so already installed versions and settings weren't lost when transitioning
that thing isn't even shown to the user normally, so i wouldn't worry

[mild thicket]

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