🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[boreal ibex]

you're awful die

[gloomy socket]

up arrow

[cosmic swan]

I Still Played Under Frosty's Credit Card

[boreal ibex]

hi blucor hi forsty hi tnurpri

[gloomy socket]

hi guys

[boreal ibex]

we shoul paly vmci!

wefo[jwqjwqejpofoefwojpwepwep

[empty ore]

idk maybe

[boreal ibex]

no not maybe youre coming with me

[gloomy socket]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe

[boreal ibex]

you two

[cosmic swan]

dmci seems good enough

[gloomy socket]

dmca

[boreal ibex]

ymca

[boreal ibex]

manolo.....

[cosmic swan]

Meowdy

[heady sand]

fair

[boreal ibex]

can we play!

[heady sand]

go ahead

[boreal ibex]

yippeeeeee

[cosmic swan]

darn errors keeping me up!

[boreal ibex]

am i an error 🥺

[heady sand]

 _________________
|______ERROR______|
| Unfortunately,  |
| Foxyyy. Try     |
| again later.    |
|_____[ OK ]______|

[empty ore]

again later

[heady sand]

[ ] Remember

[idle hornet]

 _________________
|______ERROR______|
| Unfortunately,  |
| Foxyyy fucked this up. Try     |
| again later.                                  |
|_____[ OK ]______|

[boreal ibex]

i broke the textbox

💥

[idle hornet]

That’s the joke yea!

You got it!

[gloomy socket]

/vic SetReminder time:20:00,2025-02-14 message:Remind

aw man

[heady sand]

the imaginary bot that i have installed on this server: "ok"

[naive escarp]

OK is vic and meddourk's favorite word

[idle hornet]

ok

[naive escarp]

Exactly

[heady sand]

i love ok

i'ts comfy and easy to wear

[wind oriole]

#mvl-media message

[heady sand]

34 reactions.

[empty ore]

what the fuck

[wind oriole]

give him 60 money

[gloomy socket]

lee would you like 60 money

[junior tiger]

I would

give me 60 money

[empty ore]

look a bit down btw 👽

[wind oriole]

LMAOOO

[wind oriole]

yah

[idle hornet]

THATS CRAZEE THAT MESSAGE WAS FROM THE 17th OF MARCH LMAOOOO
lee why do you check old messages

[wind oriole]

60 money is most important thing ever

[gloomy socket]

monies monies

we’re all becoming wario as we speak

[junior tiger]

I am the most wario out of all of you

cuz I am german

[empty ore]

im becoming sonic at this point

[idle hornet]

You can get oneshot with it zzz

[wind oriole]

I want origami king honestly

[cosmic swan]

pls no farts.....

[heady sand]

garlci:

[boreal ibex]

do you even eat garlic

[empty ore]

hi foxy

[boreal ibex]

hi bluci

can we play vcmi 🥺

@gloomy socket @empty ore ......

[empty ore]

uh yeah sure

but just for a while

[boreal ibex]

QXTDKBBB

dont want to ping or make it public

@cosmic swan !

@junior tiger com bac

[junior tiger]

hold on

checking out other rooms

[boreal ibex]

check mii out

[dense shadow]

can i join

[boreal ibex]

ig?

[junior tiger]

no time no see

[cosmic swan]

Gimmi A Bit I've Been Dealing With Finicky Errors 😵‍💫

[heady sand]

biscor and foxxy

mapno 3 map maeg drive ass message

[empty ore]

JAJAJAJAJA LITERAL

[gloomy socket]

I don feel much to play rn….
maybe I’ll join lators if it’s still going on

[boreal ibex]

ples

🪧

[junior tiger]

rip vic

This was

disrespectful

karma

[boreal ibex]

that was dirty

at least i try to combo that was just full stunlocking

[cosmic swan]

Rules?
Here in Spectator, There ARE No Rules

[junior tiger]

genuine fucking disrespect

[heady sand]

don't do fortress btw it was a: joke

[boreal ibex]

okay now im salty

[junior tiger]

no

fuck this

I'm getting targetted 75% of the time

[boreal ibex]

yeah agreed

fuck you turnip

[junior tiger]

and you you literalyl target me aswell

[heady sand]

why is spectating blue shell soooo jittery

[junior tiger]

:the:

[boreal ibex]

you run up to me i just do my thing..

[gloomy socket]

bro that massacre

[heady sand]

wow you died right when the music ended on my side

[boreal ibex]

OH COME ON I DIDNT EVEN GET TO PLAY FUCK YOU

[junior tiger]

almost fucked big times

[heady sand]

literally teleporting around

[boreal ibex]

goddamn you frosty

we were bah'ing together and you ruined it all...

i'm gonna send you to hell......

[junior tiger]

the bah bah

[boreal ibex]

bah bah bah

[heady sand]

eek

[junior tiger]

FUCK

FUCKING

[dense shadow]

sorry vic

im a lil on edge tonight

[heady sand]

it's ok

[raven zenith]

Just remember that I was the one who initially came up with the idea of that ruleset, started off by using the coin deathmatch ruleset and then we both tweaked it to what it is now. An unforgiving (no i-frames), coin stealing, uhh- gamerule!

so uhh anyways, how's the weather today?
(most average british thing to say)

[raven zenith]

Here's slightly newer ver. (tried fixing dying twice from coin limit)
didn't test with multiple players

[{"Condition":"Every30Sec","Action":"ActRespawnLevel","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Reached0Coins","Action":"ActKillPlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"KnockedBack","Action":"ActRemoveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"BumpedInto","Action":"ActRemoveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Disqualified","Action":"ActGiveMega","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"LookedUp","Action":"ActDoDive","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"LostPowerup","Action":"ActHardKnockbackPlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Spawned","Action":"ActSpawnPowerup","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"StompedSmn","Action":"ActDropOneCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"BumpedInto","Action":"ActDropOneCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Spawned","Action":"ActLaunchPlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"ReachedCoinLimit","Action":"ActKillPlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Reached0Coins","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Reached0Coins","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Reached0Coins","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Reached0Coins","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Every60Sec","Action":"ActSpawnPowerup","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"1MinRemaining","Action":"ActKnockbackPlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"ReachedCoinLimit","Action":"ActFreezePlayer","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]},{"Condition":"Died","Action":"ActGiveCoin","Parameters":[]}]

Just create a .json and paste that in!
I wish I could send file but I'm still new to the server to do "advanced" things like files!

(message limit eek need to cut corners so uh bad grammar!)

[raven zenith]

Also dying to the coin limit should look a bit cooler now! I would send a video of it but I cannot.

Wait, are we allowed to post links?

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AkBAWY3GH8Qoka0rqA0i1Pb9s63PFQ?e=jr4bjH <--- Video demonstrating

1st life: Demonstrating the "cooler" death (Haha get it? You'll only get it once you see it!)
2nd life: Demonstrating the fix to dying twice due to dying when high on coins
3rd life: Experimenting with the piranha plant's hitbox (ok well this part isn't important)

[raven zenith]

(oh and btw does anyone know the difference between the web ver. and the desktop ver. other than the music)

ok why is my ping so unbelievably high on web compared to desktop?

[gloomy socket]

i don’t know much about browser networking stuff and such but whenever you tab out of the web app it can make your ping increasingly high because it doesn’t get focus by the system
also I think webgl has maybe worse performance than the builds

[heady sand]

Yeah it's almost as if html documents weren't supposed to run highly complex 3D applications and games

[heady sand]

It's basically just your browser tryna save on resources and throttling the game

[raven zenith]

Ok that makes sense!

What time is the mod most active btw?

[heady sand]

I'm not aware unfortunately. I'd guess around late afternoon or evening, US time. Sorta like vanilla

What I do know is that it's not that active (especially public lobbies), all mods suffer from this fate

[raven zenith]

also on mobile, the keyboard does not appear when selecting the box to change my username (android on web)
Just letting you know about that if you haven't heard about it yet

[heady sand]

It's highly possible that's just a limitation out of my control, so I'd recommend you stray away from web anyway, especially on mobile. We have an apk ready to go for you that's less buggy overall

[raven zenith]

I knew that I shouldn't really use the web ver. (the game makes that very clear with the prompt) but I was just letting you know!

(man I should pinging when I replying as that is literally the equivalent of just straight up typing up @vic itself)

[unique pulsar]

we were playing a hide and seek mode where a designated seeker has to go and find everyone on a random map with ice flowers and freeze the hiders to dq them and this happened (the luigi was seeker)

[heady sand]

got it, thx for the report!

[boreal ibex]

ngl rotating host and setting it so you get the powerup instead of it dropping as an item is better

[unique pulsar]

Wait I didn't even know this was an option

[boreal ibex]

try it! its way better

[heady sand]

i don't think they got the ruleset

[heady sand]

any ideas?!?!?!?!?!?!

!?!?!?!?!?

this is an optional parameter that will make a certain rule happen only while it is true. making rules sort of get triggered only at certain moments during the match

[vagrant surge]

idea: allow boolean combinations of constraints

"how would i represent that in the struct" you may ask: make them into flags and have PositiveConstraint (must be true) and NegativeConstraint (must be false)

the only issue would be based on how you're storing Nand X (in HasNCoins, for example)

[gloomy socket]

i would say ‘IsLuigi/IsMario’ (character basically) but vcmi has way more characters

[vagrant surge]

ooh IsCharacter allowing for "team"-based rules

[gloomy socket]

or maybe u could make it like groups of sorts…..

[vagrant surge]

actually.

this is 1.8, no?

IsXTeam

[gloomy socket]

oh wait yeah lmao

just do Is(Red/Yellow/Green/Blue/Purple)Team

[vagrant surge]

@heady sand what i'd do is allow the restriction to be inverted as well

that could remove redundant ones

for example, inverting IsMoving can make IsStationary

inverting IsAirborne = IsGrounded...

inverting TimerIsLessThanN = TimerIsMoreThanN

etc.

[heady sand]

I already have a "constraint is negated" boolean 🫰

And ORs can be made by combining two rules with the same condition/action, but a different constraint

[gloomy socket]

smaaaaart

[vagrant surge]

and: "am i a joke to you?"

actually

yeah just make the condition a flag and then you can make any arbitrary boolean expression

[heady sand]

Also this is a bit difficult to explain but Constraints are for things that are happening, NOT identifiable traits of players. That's what Targets are for (is a certain character or team, is winning, is losing, is the host, etc.)

[vagrant surge]

IsMoving and the like, tho?

[heady sand]

Let's make an example rule:
Constraint: Got Star
Target (who Got the Star?): anyone
Action: Kill
Target (who to Kill?): 1st Place Player
Constraint (this rule will get executed only when...): Is Moving
Target (who Is Moving?): the Host

== "only while the host is moving, if anyone grabs a star, the person currently winning dies"

[heady sand]

It's more so a distinction between what one is and what one is doing

[heady sand]

Though yeah that makes sense

[vagrant surge]

technically inverting a LessThan would mean its a GreaterThanOrEqual

but that doesnt matter since they're constants anyway

but someone thinking that they want "more than 5 players" might do "less than 5 and invert"

which is wrong, since it'd include 5. but meh.

[heady sand]

I think it's a small enough inaccuracy that I can get used to live with

For the sake of simplifying this already convoluted new feature

Although ughh making stuff into flags would allow for so much more, like combining constraints in an AND fashion like you said. Or doing so with targets too

Crap

At this point provide the user with a copy of dnspy and vscode to modify the game at their will

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1329159242610901075.webp?size=32

[vagrant surge]

youd need to be able to invert individual constraints to support ANY boolean combination tho

so youd need a flag to enable, and then a flag for "invert"

otherwise things like (!IsMoving && IsAirborne) wouldnt be possible

[cosmic swan]

Intriguing...

[heady sand]

The vcmi can produce mind-boggling gamemodes

[boreal ibex]

sigma..

[gloomy socket]

omg imagine like ''lessThan1MinuteRemaining'' in hide n seek and it does some thingy to make the players be shown on the minimap sometimes.....

[cosmic swan]

Yeah Vic Could Tie Special Effects As Rules And Have A Ongamestart Thing To Trigger Them Like Before, But Now Can be Changed Mid Match... 👀
Tho Funky

[heady sand]

Dynamically changing the effects mid -match? Eehhhhh...

[cosmic swan]

Funky Indeed

[raven zenith]

ehh, I've seen worse..

[heady sand]

ok so take the "harm player" action, which powers down someone. should it...

1. have an effect ALWAYS no matter what
   -# or
2. be limited to under normal circumstances (it'd have no effect if the player is in i-frames or has an invincibility star)

[vagrant surge]

I'd have two separate ones tbh; "normal damage" and "unblockable damage"

[heady sand]

hrm...

ok fine

i'll add it as a parameter... a toggle for that action

[vagrant surge]

[gloomy socket]

toggle for rules is wild 😭

[vagrant surge]

toggling your life support

[naive escarp]

win 1 game and you're done for

[gloomy socket]

perhaps…
GotStar.. Increase Star Limit 🤔…….

[heady sand]

Nah it's just a parameter... Like for example "GivePowerup" also has a param that indicates which power up to give... Same thing here, the Harm will indicate if it's "forced" or not... EZ

Also I've made the executive decision to remove the Constraint negated boolean and instead replace it with explicit constraints that are opposites. Long story. Don't worry. I'll make it work. Don't worry.

Also also you should've seen the grin on my face yesterday when I discovered that to implement most actions it's just

private void ActionDoThing() {
    ThingSystem->Do();
}

Thanks iPod "Touch" 0218

[vagrant surge]

strings in the structs.... crinnge.

also why reflection?

[heady sand]

I just put them in quotes in the message to Accentuate my Words

Conditions and actions and whatever are an enum value in the struct

[vagrant surge]

no i checked ur dev branch lol

the parameter is a string i meant :P

[heady sand]

Oh, I've been exposed

[heady sand]

Yea well the thing is that the parameter can be kinda anything, depending on the condition...

As for the reflection thing, well... It's what I used in the original version and didn't really change to a diff method bc it works

Cause

• what else would you say I use instead of strings
• how else would you say I convert an enum value to a method name

[vagrant surge]

1. a single int w/ constants since youre not really storing anything in the strings
2. Dictionary<Enum, Action>

[heady sand]

1. Fine, a little bit more convoluted but OK
2. This one I don't really like tbh, I mean we already have all info we need I cant get myself to creating a lookup table that's just {
   {TriggerAction.GiveStar, ActGiveStar},
   {TriggerAction.GiveCoin, ActGiveCoin},
   {TriggerAction.Kill, ActKill},
   ... }

[vagrant surge]

i suppose

it doesnt matter that much

since theyre rarely called anyway

[heady sand]

Also I want to know if I understood correctly, 1. would kinda be using enums as well, right?

[vagrant surge]

kinda?

i mean, you could

I just meant more constants than enums

because overlap is ok

[heady sand]

Ah, got it

[heady sand]

i mean after all why shouldn't i revert the ui back to 1.7's for the vcmi port to 1.8

i had a lot of space for rules there

[hoary vessel]

@heady sand ipod loves this mod too much

[vagrant surge]

I was considering moving the rules to a popup submenu

[heady sand]

I was thinking of putting the list of triggers in a popup too, but im not too fond of the idea of requiring another click to do (see) something that required no input beforehand

[vagrant surge]

You had to scroll

[heady sand]

Grumble grumble... But you'll have to scroll in the new popup too!!

[heady sand]

so i was trying to do this and... i can't see to be able to serialize a struct? like, in the command down at the bottom. should i unfold the struct into its individual components in that case, or...?

[vagrant surge]

do what, serialize a struct in a command?

[heady sand]

yes

[vagrant surge]

i dont think you can?

easily, anyway.

just break it into different components

ill ask in the server

[heady sand]

Ok thanks

It won't be too difficult to serialize each individual field of the struct instead, anyway

[heady sand]

choose vcmi's fate

as you may or may not know, all "race" maps in vcmi currently lack any subareas (and working pipes or doors)
this was initially because there was no use for those rooms in a race since they're just out of the way. however, i wanna know what ppl think now that i'm porting and redoing from scratch these stages for v18, and that more varied gamemodes have surfaced around said maps:

1. yeah you're right, i don't see myself visiting those subareas. keep the "race" maps linear
2. i actually would like seeing subareas being added, for one reason or the other

[junior tiger]

me when I plan subarea race map:

Watch them all go to 1 and screwing me over

[spare swift]

subareas are only good if they are a shortcut or for hide and seek variety

[cosmic swan]

cooler to have them than not

[gloomy socket]

it would bring so much changesszzszz

[heady sand]

Aww darn it
More work for me

[gloomy socket]

i think worst thing is you’d prob have to code in some area based camera boundaries or something…

[craggy iris]

maybe make it so they dont act as shortcuts and they are good

or atleast let it be an option to disable shortcuts

[naive escarp]

clean sweep

[heady sand]

man, towers really are damn narrow in the og huh

what the

they like cover only two third of the screen

i think i should just force 4:3 aspect ratio on there lol

[spare swift]

you should hide wario somewhere outside the walls that only propeller players can see when flying

[cosmic swan]

you could...
Stretch the stage

sideways

!!

expand the walls

[boreal ibex]

you shouldve done 2-tower or 3-tower instead

oh right nevermind they all use gimmicks.

[heady sand]

as far as towers go, we got w1's, w7's, and w8's

[gloomy socket]

i think u might have to add vertical bg scrolling too cause the parallax will be way more noticeable here and it can look bad 💔

[boreal ibex]

ngl i never thought how fucked up these levels are

5-tower is an autoscroller for fucks sake 😭

[empty ore]

force the players to use 4:3

[heady sand]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[boreal ibex]

zoom the camera in

[heady sand]

huh
that's also a very simple solution yeah

[boreal ibex]

and it would be kinda

accuracy!

it would feel a lot nicer than having 4:3 maybe

[vestal wind]

Accuracy Mentioned👀👀

[spare swift]

hey vic have you ever thought of adding an option for the nsmb levels to be playable for vs

like loop-able and with star spawns

[heady sand]

i have considered adding randomly scattered star spawns on there, yeah

not too sure on the looping, though

[heady sand]

I kinda almost don't wanna have my name in this mod's name anymore... Sounds a bit too long and boring idk

[spare swift]

mvlo custom match-inator

i wouldnt be opposed to it

[heady sand]

Yeah, you get it! It's so straight to the point

[junior tiger]

but again

vic's custom match-inator is iconic

the name is supr iconic

[idle hornet]

vcmi for short 🤷‍♂️

So icon

ic

-ish

[naive escarp]

Having the author's name in the mod feels natural

so i don't see a problem

but i dont own this so you can change it ofc xd

miibumm suggested a good name

[heady sand]

The main snag is that everyone and their mother calls it "vic's mod" so it'll lose almost all recognisability if I remove that I feel like...

[spare swift]

only other good abreviation i can think of is matchinator

[naive escarp]

Calling this mod "matchinator" will feel unnatural and very weird considering i believe all have been calling this mod vic's mod since 3 years ago

[boreal ibex]

keep it as vcmi..... 🥺

[heady sand]

The funny thing with "matchinator" is that it's technically wrong... The inator is of the "custom matches" it's like, a custom-match inator
So both words have to be included

I know this is such a thing to say but lol

[boreal ibex]

too lazy to add custom to every instance of matchinator

[naive escarp]

vcmi doesn't have a problem with name
mod loader does...

[heady sand]

Ughh so true, what was I thinking

[empty ore]

vic's mod loader

[gloomy socket]

mvlOML

[idle hornet]

Mason vs luise 0 Mod Loader

-# I forgot to reply 👽

[craggy iris]

i loved vics custom matchinagor...

[idle hornet]

Ah yes

The most iconic mod name ever

Idk changing it just feels so off

[unique pulsar]

me and my friends don't really hang around in the community at all but whenever we play we just refer to it "vic's" but tbh even if you rename it to take your name out we will still probably just call it "vic's"

not even vic's mod or anything we literally just say hop on vics or yeah let's play vics

[vagrant surge]

the vic's in question

[junior tiger]

Ginger

[idle hornet]

vic Made In China...:Simple_Glare:

[heady sand]

Fair enough, fair enough...

[naive escarp]

vic if he doctor

https://tenor.com/view/cleveland-browns-family-guy-peter-gif-27126629

[gloomy socket]

remember when blucor directly called vic himself vics mod

[naive escarp]

same way lee called u frosted mod

pffft

[spare swift]

vic idk if i’ve mentioned this before but hypothetically

item rain

[wind oriole]

hello map mod

[gloomy socket]

hi lee (only some people know...)

[wind oriole]

hello wonder

[heady sand]

Too much chaos I feel like...

[gloomy socket]

i mean technically could be made with spawn powerup every bla bla bla

[heady sand]

Technically it could easily be made with a trigger similar to "every 1 second .. spawn random powerup"

Ya

[gloomy socket]

double technically 🔥

[junior tiger]

I planned to do an item rain mode in my mod

[spare swift]

same but i’m lazy

[cosmic swan]

this ain't the lazy mod 🥹

[naive escarp]

We already have 14+ lazy mods

[idle hornet]

He’s so clueless

[naive escarp]

His battery is so dying

[idle hornet]

I usually let it down to 1

Or sometimes 0

[left tendon]

If...

Player "Vic"

Get Job ('Doctor')
Then...
set_var('World is safe?') [0]

[boreal ibex]

WRONG

apocalypse.

[junior tiger]

if Player.IsLocal

Debug.Log("Despite everything, it's still you.");

watch someone tell me I need to put Player.IsLocal in mutiple blenders so it actually works

[vagrant surge]

eerm that syntax is wrong!!

[junior tiger]

NERD ALERT!!!!

[cosmic swan]

Rules but It Summons Particle Text...
Could be A Neat Way To Tell Players What They Are Doing Correctly In A Ruleset

We love Reviving Stuff Don't We

[vagrant surge]

playsound rule

[gloomy socket]

wait these can be doable with the whole parameter stuff now...

vic PLEASE keep this in mind i beg you 🥹

woag 125 stars 22k messages

[heady sand]

Idk man do we really need that? Lol
I'm not too fond of the idea

I think adding emotes oughtta that work like in smm2 where they play a Ping sound, oughtta be enough

[raven zenith]

Has anyone created any fun/interesting custom rules?

[idle hornet]

if [collected coin] [random rng] use it in race matches

but i think it only applies to host..

@heady sand it only applies to host?

[heady sand]

Unfortunately yeah, random tp is one of the rules affected by the bug

[heady sand]

I mean apart from deathmatch and hp deathmatch,
We got hide and seek, freeze tag, Luigi jail

sorta similar, but different enough and a whole lot of fun

[craggy iris]

wtf is luigi jail 😭

[craggy iris]

bumped..rngteleport for teleport flower

you can add it to whatever ruleset you want

copyrighted and licensed by uh me tptally i own nintendo

[heady sand]

It's a ruleset that we accidentally discovered while playing freeze tag lol
Ok so freeze tag consists in the host freezing everyone else (permafreeze is enabled). Others can help each other get away. Once everyone's frozen, the host wins.
Now, Luigi jail is a variant of this. Instead of permafreezing others, you must bring them to the area behind the flagpole (the "jail") and they can't escape BC touching the flagpole will DQ them

One can play around with the modifiers to make it easier or harder for the jailed ppl to escape

Now, it's called Luigi jail BC uhh the umm

When we discovered it we were all playing as Luigi for two reasons; not finding out who's who, and having fairly-sized ice cube collisions lol

I don't remember exactly who thought of it, so whoever it was speak up so I can give you credit sob

[craggy iris]

wait wtf that sounds actually really fun

that might be fire gamemode yall cooked

[heady sand]

Yeah!! The challenge of bringing an ice cube to the other side of the map is surprisingly exhilarating

[gloomy socket]

it really is lol

i sent so many clips from how hilarious it is

#mvl-media message

[gloomy socket]

im pretty sure it was foxy trolling around putting us behind the flagpole and it ended up being a gamemode

[craggy iris]

the first clip

LMFAO

fucking died to snow

[boreal ibex]

yeah itwas me

[heady sand]

@outer swift hi hello, I saw your suggestion in that other thread and well yeah sounds like a great idea...

something like extra buttons that the host can mess around with in the middle of the match sounds very useful

that way we aren't limited to setting stuff up before the match

i'll note it down lol

[outer swift]

omgg🥹

i am so happy to hear that

soo currently i noticed

its like that

that all effects

are limited to the host

wait a second (the youtube link down there is that "bug" i mean when i said limited to the host

[outer swift]

i got a video of a bug i think, but i really like this bug. if it is one

Link cause its to big (for discord, and cause i have no perms here)

oh

i just upload to youtube

https://youtu.be/r_9NHBNIEmo?feature=shared

[heady sand]

that's a very ugly and sad bug yeah... very limiting... it's definitely not intentional, although many players have taken advantage of it to create some fun gamemodes

should be totally fixed by the next version (it's going to take a while, but i think will be worth it)

[outer swift]

yay

ur so epicc

i can't await this epic Feature

because yeah it would really bring new possibilites if you have the power to choose how the game runs

and ye

ofc the bug fix as well

bug fixes are really important

[heady sand]

basically, it'll be a "target" feature where you can choose freely who the rule affects. just the host, everyone, someone random, the one with most stars, etc.

[outer swift]

YES!

should work as well for this ^^

and maybe, at spawn item thing choose which item spawn exacly, or get item in reserve slot :) [if that is possible, so like extra options for things that may have more than one thing to choose from, like items]

[vagrant surge]

1.7 moment

[outer swift]

loool

The timer just hit 0:00

and the game goes on

[heady sand]

quantum saved my and vcmi's ass so much

[vagrant surge]

Same Star count?

If two players are tied for first the game will continue until someone's in the lead

[outer swift]

ahh

ye

[vagrant surge]

Oh Vic

I wanted to generalize GameLogicSystem into a separate gamemode system

So it's easier to add custom game modes without shoehorning everything into the one game logic system

Just letting u know

in case of merge issues lol

[heady sand]

ooh, that's cool. but, what would that mean exactly? isolating things like starrequirement, and abstracting things like checking for winners?

also, you think you finished changing the event Frame parameters you mentioned a few days ago? i wanted that to be fully done before commiting to the merge

[vagrant surge]

Yeah

[vagrant surge]

Also yeah I finished that big change

Events aren't supposed to have the Frame in them

Bc they might not be the correct frame under some conditions

[heady sand]

soo useful. i won't have to ruin the checking for winners anymore by gluing on extra logic if stars are disabled

[naive escarp]

@heady sand There is a softlock with the do NOT race

mode

The coin keeps constantly spawning

[empty ore]

die > respawn level

the dont challenge is supposed to be played in singleplayer lol

[cosmic swan]

Do We Call It A Softlock Of Vic's If Yur Using A Maker Tool?

[empty ore]

exactly rabo

(i dont know what do you mean with that)

[vagrant surge]

if you did "spawned > kill player" would you say its something that should be "fixed" as well? lol

i mean the respawn probably should just be moved off the coin but still

[naive escarp]

yeah

why would that be in a preset gamemode

should probably just be lapped = respawn level

[heady sand]

yup... i'll just do that in the next revision of this lvl

[boreal ibex]

im sorry but what the fuck does that mean

[gloomy socket]

his point is customization

i think

[boreal ibex]

??

[gloomy socket]

like the softlock would quite literally come from the customization

its like ipod said above

spawned > kill player
that wouldnt really be a softlock of the mod itself and just a softlock from the rules set

[boreal ibex]

i mean you're leaving it like that for people to softlock themselves

ergo, his mistake

but whatever im not in the mood to argue about something so stupid as a coin in a shitty mode

[heady sand]

the whole cause of concern was the softlock coming from a preset gamemode. yes, the rules can be added, deleted, or changed, but the do not challenge is one of the preloaded rulesets. so it is my mistake

[gloomy socket]

tbh fair, tho i think the mistake wouldnt be from it being a preset ruleset but rather :clueless:

[heady sand]

yeah no i did take artistic liberties when porting the levels. also it's difficult to control edge cases when the rules can be so expansive :(

but that's why i appreciate bug reports

[boreal ibex]

ergo, his mistake

i win

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-little-festejando-congratulations-victory-meme-gif-26362861

[gloomy socket]

no we're not talking about that you win NOTHING

shhhhh

[boreal ibex]

:(

you a meanie

yucky you...

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[heady sand]

mario sitting on stairs crying raining gif

[boreal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-crying-crying-mario-stairs-gif-20008055

[heady sand]

i just realized that with the new powerup creator feature you could create something like a blue shell easily...

hm...

on powerup got -> hard knockback (target: first place)

i've been doing a lot of mining off-camera, i should reveal more stuff here because this thread's been kind of a snore lately

[gloomy socket]

ooooo

now add progress path for races and gg

[heady sand]

progress path? what is that?

[gloomy socket]

the minimap I mean

(hi lee)

[heady sand]

there already is a minimap... i don't understand sorry sob

[gloomy socket]

i was actually half joking lmao
what i exactly meant was something to determine whos in first place in race maps (as in whos closer to the flagpole)

[heady sand]

Ahh yeah I get it now

I mean, I guess

[spare swift]

vic i think you should follow in mkworlds footsteps and add more misc mario enemies and characters

specifically cataquack

and lakitus cloud

not lakitu

[heady sand]

That'd be so funny yeah

I was laughing so hard when I saw moo moo meadows' cow there

[cosmic swan]

moomoo the highlight of the direct

[gloomy socket]

playable lakithunder in vcmi

[heady sand]

don't think i've ever shown this. but new rules (they're now called triggers) screen

targets ("Who?") and parameters ("X = ") are new additions. constraints ("Only While...") are too, but a placeholder for now that might change places
more things for triggers, like options for a "random chance to happen" and a "delay" might be added...

also, these are the maps that will make it in for now. many new race (they're now called "campaign") ones...

[gloomy socket]

so many more castles and towers,.,.,

[wind oriole]

im abt to cry

its so peak

[vagrant surge]

ah, I see your > and < are still not working... lmao

[lone lake]

Dude i like that maps

[heady sand]

They never did,, I cry everytime

[heady sand]

yet another thing ported, the powerup manager. nothing new, just a little different look that's consistent with the new design language above. however, now it's just on/off toggles instead of a x0/x1/x4 selector since that aspect wasn't widely used
also, don't look on the right side of the dialog. it's a secret

[junior tiger]

Yum we Winning

[heady sand]

changed some things around a bit. felt too cramped, so i added an "extras" dialog and moved the constraint there. also, two new features (delay and random chance :)

[junior tiger]

Sorry vic, I gotta snoop again

[heady sand]

What are you doing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1157737520285634712.webp?size=32

[junior tiger]

snooping obv

[heady sand]

As per usual

[junior tiger]

I see

[heady sand]

(I haven't committed today's changes)

[junior tiger]

I had 24 new commits

So new

Team c is my favorite btw

There can only be one! /ref

VCMI Semi German is real

Why is my LustarioMario it's suppose to be Lusto on editor graah

[heady sand]

Oh yeah, translations. Yuck. Don't expect much from me on that front

[junior tiger]

äöü

ü

[heady sand]

Ö

[junior tiger]

ö

[heady sand]

·o·

[junior tiger]

help me I am in danger

[craggy iris]

breaks legs because of fucked up collision

[junior tiger]

dat koopa tho

[heady sand]

Can you not go down at all?

[junior tiger]

You have to slide the entire time

if not you get stuck

[heady sand]

Ah. OK

[junior tiger]

I never struggled ever in this level before

Never play on Keyboard

[spare swift]

vic can you add the ds camera ost to the main menu songs

[heady sand]

That's fucked up

[junior tiger]

Where will yo be playing?

[heady sand]

I've never heard of that, I'll be taking a listen

[heady sand]

Cance

[junior tiger]

Campaign

ü

[heady sand]

It**'**s a draw...

[junior tiger]

Please let me rename myself to äöü :(

[heady sand]

Everything has at least one thing that's unfinished. So don't be surprised

[heady sand]

Seems like a limitation on the servers.......

[junior tiger]

nah it's fine, it's unreleased afterall

What's funny to mention is that if I click on my name then click again, I hightlight the character section for a small bit and then back at Lusto

[heady sand]

So much work to do. I really want to get the character selector working for the new characters though

[junior tiger]

Funny that we both talked about smth with characters

👽

[vagrant surge]

@heady sand increase the z of that water to make it in front of the players dangit !!!

speaking of water... i need to make it so you get the water walking footsteps when partially in water

also i think some of the tiles might have the wrong winding for the vertices

[heady sand]

Yesss I willl some day, it's on my to-do liiist...

I just get distracted by some other thing every time lol

[heady sand]

Yeah I just have to remove the automatically generated collisions of the shadow tiles

I must've missed those back then

aaaaahahaha

oh. ok

how did i

[junior tiger]

Oh we doin racing? count me in

[vagrant surge]

oh, did you pull the latest from nightly?

cuz i did some changes to the tilemap data saved in the Map

so anything you have baked miiiiiight be wrong

[heady sand]

yes, i got the latest stuff but it didn't cause issues

that was just a problem of clipping inside a wall because the ceiling was too lowç

[craggy iris]

how even

[heady sand]

i swear man this goddamn tileset

[junior tiger]

Sheesh

Murder

[vagrant surge]

also hell yeah! this means it wasnt my shitty code!

[spare swift]

https://youtu.be/hjS5T2flu2Y?si=xwEQW4pZf3etSAjk

here’s one i like

[junior tiger]

new commits yummy

and it shows platforms now yay

[heady sand]

also play the other new levelssssss and tell me what's wrong with them

(except towers. i know those are fucked upo.)

unpaid playtesting

[junior tiger]

can you join I need mental support

[heady sand]

OK

[junior tiger]

The Plant is dead

send help

[heady sand]

top hiding spot

[junior tiger]

I'm try my best to get out

[heady sand]

brb call

[junior tiger]

k

[heady sand]

done.

[junior tiger]

Cave Divers

[heady sand]

we can't get out...1.1.1.1.1

[junior tiger]

great gaming

my frames are horrible holy

bro is chillin

[heady sand]

do kooper troopers have no collisions or what!!

[junior tiger]

in the og game they have height hitbox of 1 block

you can tell by the ice map section

oops

[vagrant surge]

wait what.... how...

[junior tiger]

Oh yeah iPod, could you give my standalone build user-id the blue colored name? I have it on the editor lol, it would probably be more convenient to have it there and not the editor

if you can that is

[vagrant surge]

what's the id

[junior tiger]

30a9e529-0791-4b8e-a409-5d4a03e2de90

huh?

oh stunned kill begin

thats why

I was gonna ask why we are dying

[vagrant surge]

done

[junior tiger]

chillin

[heady sand]

[any] stunned -> [non-conditioner] kill

[junior tiger]

Soo uhh what are we suppose to test again?

koopas?

[heady sand]

i gotta add checkpoints

[vagrant surge]

imagine trying to serialize all these newly configurable rule settings into a string and stuff them into the custom properties lmao

[heady sand]

oh uhh yeah i needed to see if all kopas went thru the floor or not

apparently just those over there

[junior tiger]

this is it luigi

[heady sand]

5mb large json 🤢

[junior tiger]

The KOOpas don't get crushed

apparently

I saw it with my own eyes

[vagrant surge]

they dont have crushing code

at least, i dont think.

the bobombs do

because fortress

[junior tiger]

IM SORRY VIC

[vagrant surge]

hm... no

[heady sand]

crazy

[vagrant surge]

koopas should get crushed.

        public void OnEntityCrushed(Frame f, EntityRef entity) {
            if (f.Unsafe.TryGetPointer(entity, out Koopa* koopa)) {
                koopa->Kill(f, entity, EntityRef.None, KillReason.InWall);
            }
        }

[heady sand]

i was imagining all entities /enemies shared a single "is-crushed" function or event

[junior tiger]

My Nightmares:

or is it cuz of sideways squishy things

Is... there no more KOOpas?!?!

genocide...

take the win vic

Squishy Debug.Log

[vagrant surge]

nah its a signal

enemies have unique death states after all

[heady sand]

:)

[junior tiger]

What the fuck

[heady sand]

i set the "promote to host" button active in unity and then pressed it

[junior tiger]

vic is an mvl hacker confirmed

Oh yeah we did

thats where the KOOpa debate started

[vagrant surge]

so

how did the koopa get into the wall exactly

[junior tiger]

He is just there

he spawned there

He was ready

[heady sand]

i have no idea. in sewer it made sense because the ceiling was too low. but in tower i'm not sure what the cause would be

[junior tiger]

replay might come in clutch here

cuz I can look at the entire scene

[heady sand]

i hope you like the vertical minimap...

[junior tiger]

he falls down

into the thingy

[vagrant surge]

NO i HATE it.
(show)

[vagrant surge]

wrong spawn position?

[heady sand]

it's nothing special, just the mingimnap following the player's y instead of x in arbitrary stages

[heady sand]

good point

[junior tiger]

something something

[vagrant surge]

aaa

[vagrant surge]

yeah, that koopa spawns in the ground

[naive escarp]

aaa's lobby

[heady sand]

well, that's been fixed. i could've sworn i had grid snapping enable but my hand must've slipped

[junior tiger]

The Koopa was chilling tho atleast

[heady sand]

had to add a bunch of extra toggles because we really can't wrap in campaign maps :( the stage baker is prettttty useful though

oh and the auto camera/bounds is chef's kiss, so much time saved. i think i've already said that

[vagrant surge]

:)

[junior tiger]

does this count

[heady sand]

now i can just detect if a goal object exists in the stage to mark it as a race map instead of clicking the toggle myself!! wow, technology

[junior tiger]

NEW Technology!?

[heady sand]

built on NT technology

[junior tiger]

NT? Windows NT Workstation

Oh yeah vic, thanks for giving me host back when I was host 🧠 🦅

[naive escarp]

yall playing vcmi 1.8?

[junior tiger]

We were playing a few rounds goofing around

[heady sand]

wonder how possible it'll be to import just the entirety of unicode emojis as a sprite sheet

automatically obv i ain't labelling each one by hand

[junior tiger]

Who said there can't be more than one host?

Moderators feature is real

[vagrant surge]

???

did you change something for this to happen

cuz if this is vanilla i want to fix it

[junior tiger]

i set the "promote to host" button active in unity and then pressed it

[vagrant surge]

right

[junior tiger]

here

[vagrant surge]

but doing that shouldnt

promote someone twice?

or two seperate people?

[heady sand]

i didn't actually have host. still couldn't change anything. just the sprite and chat msg appeared

[vagrant surge]

ok good.

thats fine.

[heady sand]

yup

[junior tiger]

but you did gave it back at the end

[heady sand]

that's agoode

[junior tiger]

so everything is good

totally real host

that you gave back

yep 101% real

Never build for vcmi again kids, dont delete the build folder kids

[heady sand]

13 minutes shrug

skiissues

[junior tiger]

IL2CPP I'm calling it

[heady sand]

oh god yeah thanks for reminding me, i have to make the lighting work in each level

for that juicy rtx

[junior tiger]

I saw you hit the lava once and didn't die

crazy

[heady sand]

i like these little tracks

[junior tiger]

ow

[junior tiger]

Last Words before 2089 timeskip

[junior tiger]

it just says buh bye for me :(

[heady sand]

laugh

[heady sand]

gave it a listen, it's pretty good but i'm not sure i'm convinced for it being a main menu th

[junior tiger]

Do not worry vic, I will be waiting patiently!

[spare swift]

https://youtu.be/h-MM4H5JAF0?si=OGaAwHVsP_7H8dzC hi here’s another but i think the other one is more of a catchy boppy menu theme

i’m probably gonna use them for my mod but was curious to see if you were interested in using them

[heady sand]

This one's not bad at all

[heady sand]

ok!! all existing characters have been successfully ported and they look better than ever. also, you can choose the palette in the previewer dialog so you don't have to go back and forth

i'll re-add the unique colour palettes they used to have soon

[junior tiger]

I heard unique

Hi vic, nice job

[heady sand]

actually let me make a poll

hi thanks lust

how do you like the "bowser's minions" enemies:

1. no voicelines: either mute or with some infrequent abstract sound effects taken from nsmb - like in current-version vcmi
2. have them speak: give dry bones, hammer bro, etc. their iconic voices from the modern mario games

[junior tiger]

Once I learn how to make maps in 1.8 I will build that Beach Versus Map I was talking about ages ago

[spare swift]

instant yes for voices

[empty ore]

i think it would be cool to add voice lines to the character, it would feel more alive

[spare swift]

yes

i don’t like playing as the minions in vic mod cuz they just feel like a boring model swap

[heady sand]

aww really?
i never added voices to them because they felt a bit... annoying

too much screaming

[spare swift]

understandable but idk they just feel like bland husks without them

[heady sand]

well then i guess i'll have to bring justice to them

[junior tiger]

it eats at your soul

[heady sand]

-# crusty ass model

[spare swift]

honestly the other part of the reason why i don’t like playing them

[heady sand]

i think it would be reasonable to take a model from later games, that way they're higher poly despite not being era-appropriate

[empty ore]

eh, you should try it tbh

[heady sand]

cause like, man, i learned a lot ever since i added these models. i feel i could do a much better job but... work

[empty ore]

depends if the voice lines itself are loud

[gloomy socket]

tbf these characters don’t have that many voice lines either

[spare swift]

and i think my final reason why i don’t like most of the minions even if i did play them is because majority of their body types are just big balls of torso with baby arms

[gloomy socket]

but half of the chars have voice lines in super sluggers I think

[empty ore]

shhhhh malo 3d world

[empty ore]

oh god never again frosty

[gloomy socket]

huh…

[empty ore]

i HATE super sluggers!!!!

[spare swift]

like all these characters circled feel basically the same to me

like monty is just shy guy but a hamster

[gloomy socket]

the only one I don’t like to play as or rarely do is monty mole

[spare swift]

the ? ones are a probably feel the same btw

[heady sand]

agh, i know i know, i've been mentally fighting with that ever since i added them bc they're so wide. it's gotten so bad that we mostly play as luigi when freeze tagging for example bc of the proportionate hitboxes. but i kinda find joy in playing as an nsmb enemy so that's why i just...

[spare swift]

yeah i get it

it’s not like mario kart where it’s just cosmetic (for the most part) for the enemies

i think it’d be fitting for you to do yoshi tho

[heady sand]

sure, why not

[spare swift]

and toad maybe (he’s a favorite in mmim so idk)

[heady sand]

i'm a bit ehh with toad i'm ngl lol

[spare swift]

what cus of the proportion hell?

[heady sand]

ah no it's just because it's toad

[spare swift]

what about toadsworth

[heady sand]

ah!

[spare swift]

that feels fitting for vic mod

[heady sand]

yeah' he's not a bad candidate

[spare swift]

i would suggest birdo but i don’t like birdo

idk how other people feel about playing birdo

[heady sand]

i also don't feel like adding her, sorry

[spare swift]

pianta?

[heady sand]

i feel like that strays away from nsmb too much

[spare swift]

i mean
rex and bully are right there

[heady sand]

but they'rrrrrre bowser's minions...?

nervous laughter

[spare swift]

erm that’s a mario & luigi rpg thing

i would definitely main boo or smth

no legs but idk it could work i think

i would be down to do custom animations for him too

color palettes would be tricky tho
unless it’s just boo and the dark boo from smg

[heady sand]

urk yeah, animations... it would be so benefitial for all characters to have something more than the humanoid mario-based anims. but i'm not too fond of opening that can of worms rn

i know i'm learning blender and stuff but only modelling, haven't touched animation at all

[spare swift]

i could help considering what i’ve done for my mod

it’s natural to me at this point

[heady sand]

boo and the such would be sick, yeah. they'd have to... float around(?) instead of walk and run, i feel like. also palettes wouldn't be a problem, they don't have to have heaps (or any for that matter)

[heady sand]

if you wish, i'd me more than grateful

i don't want to have my mod overflow with characters since that's not its main premise (it might be too late now though), but i can't say no to boos

or... those guys that fly in a straight line in smw

eeries?

[spare swift]

ngl i’d rather work on that than my own mod lol

not sure if my computer can handle 1.8 tho

[heady sand]

it shouldn't be any heavier than 1.7

[spare swift]

i mainly mean storage wise

plus usually when i fork anything nowadays something is missing or broken

[spare swift]

i have a portable storage thing i can put it on but this still usually happens

[naive escarp]

why not make his hat, gloves, and boots, the second color?

The secondary color doesn't exist there lol

For broozer especifically

No wait it's snow spike 😭

[heady sand]

oh yea i see

it'll be a few gigs. also, running projects from external drives (anything other than C) leads to problems

[heady sand]

the mario and luigi palettes aren't supposed to be applied to them lol, it's just that i have to write a bunch of code to make it how it used to be in the current version of vcmi

also the gloves, hat, boots, etc... aren't colored bc they show what powerup they have active, be it fire or ice flower

[heady sand]

yet another dialog of toggles. this is to customize which elements the minimap and scoreboard shows. in the current version of vcmi, you can only disable or enable players, but maybe you'd want to show who's frozen (freeze tag), hide stars, or bring attention to a certain team's position on the map...

the right side will have mostly the same things but for elements on the scoreboard (star, live, coin, etc. counts)

oh god imagine a traditional versus match but with stars hidden in the minimap

zero strategy

[vagrant surge]

this is why ghost house only hides the players, not the stars lmao

[wise urchin]

peak menu of the characters

[heady sand]

Figured I'll ask
How do you prefer rulesets to be saved/exported?

• keep it as an actual file. Easy to store but might be awkward to share if one can't upload things onto the platform they're sharing it to. This is how it works currently
• as a string of numbers and letters that you can paste into the game. A bit more tedious to store on your pc, but very easy to share around. Could even work in the in-game chat

[craggy iris]

how about both

[gloomy socket]

what if it was like a list of available rule sets and people can upload theirs there? like how mvlo maker does it for the levels

ofc that’s a lot more hassle than the 2 options you provided lol, but I’d go with 2

[heady sand]

I mean, it would be very cool to have that. But since it's pretty complex of a thing, other stuff has priority

[vagrant surge]

I mean... is it?

You could just send the ruleset in a command

Or do you mean like UI / logic lol

[heady sand]

nah i mean what frosty said about pulling out a server, database, api thing for the ruleset upload feature

1 or 2 of my poll is definitely nice and simple though

[vagrant surge]

Ah. I mean, didn't u do that for mvl maker

[heady sand]

yeah!! that will make the process smoother... but it'll still take time...

maybe for idk v18.0.3 or whatever lol

[wise urchin]

peak menu

[heady sand]

thanks

[naive escarp]

did vic already implement midis?

[heady sand]

yes, it's been the main source of music for vcmi for a long time and they'll keep being in v18

it was easy to port too, just mute the normal music and copy and paste my midi playing script from previous versions hoho

[vestal wind]

I have midis working on my accuracyMod v3 as a toggleable option

But the musics dont seem to play accurately at times

Idk if it has to do with fluidMidi playback or something with my files

[heady sand]

Yeah, it's a fluidmidi issue. The sequencer is not quite accurate enough. In the last couple versions of vcmi I have migrated to MeltySynth

It's not fully plug and play, but it's more accurate and cross-platform

[heady sand]

more toggles for hiding and showing things

some of these are already in the current vcmi version, but it'll be more organized now

[vagrant surge]

juan

[heady sand]

Can't have an icon that represents "player names" better than that..

[gloomy socket]

anonymous ruleset

0 strategy at all 😭

[heady sand]

Exactly!! Absolute gameplay

[gloomy socket]

now add another option to make every player mario with default palette

😇

[craggy iris]

i will do terrible things with anonymous ruleset if that ever gets added

ehehehehe

[hoary vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRPrgkwB_WU

it was my first nintendo handheld

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzWRqnuXxc

[gloomy socket]

ds generation my beloved

[red mantle]

I'm testing vcmi on an android tv and when I pause with a controller it automatically unpauses

However the on-screen pause button works properly

[red mantle]

The same also happens in mvl renewed (although it doesn't even show the pause menu)

[heady sand]

Yeah, in vcmi the menu waits for the animation to finish and so you see it, and that's not present in vanilla/renewed so there it'll disappear very fast. Considering it happens in multiple mods, it has to mean it's an issue with android TV itself... Maybe a bug in the OS or a difference in how gamepad inputs are sent...

Fixing this seems to be outside of my reach but thanks for the report hoho

[red mantle]

Honestly I don't mind if the bug is fixed or not, I'm sure no one is even playing mvlo on an android tv

[heady sand]

[💤] vic's Custom Match-inator

I'm having a busy summer. Sorry for the delay and lack of progress on the update, it'll be out eventually!!

[junior tiger]

The Matchinator is sleeping

Too eepy

[heady sand]

A quick nap...

[junior tiger]

vic's Custom Match-inator
HP: 7/10
FP: 5/5
Status Effects:
Sleeping: 3 Turns

[spare swift]

vic joining miibumm mod on the pause train

[heady sand]

Current version, 17.0.11, has the ~18 levels. The 30+ will come in the next update (based on 1.8), which is still in progress but coming soon.

Wait where did the message go

[spare swift]

i think it did the fake out earlier

where it says something was here but then you check and theres nothing

[heady sand]

I also saw the question in my recent notifications so

Thus my answer

[fallow jolt]

oh damn thats huge

any idea when its coming out, this seems exciting

and i assume the intention is to eventually have all nsmb ds levels, right?

[heady sand]

Not necessarily all (there are some I don't really like), but sure, it can keep expanding

[heady sand]

Most surely a bit after vanilla 1.8 comes out

[heady sand]

Bump

-# (I don't want this thread to get autodeleted or smth weird like that)

[junior tiger]

Koopa

[heady sand]

koopa troopa paratroopa bowser's castle go kablooka

[vagrant surge]

BlockBump?

[heady sand]

no... bump, the predecessor to knockback

[gloomy socket]

1.8 bumps better

[heady sand]

[👁️] vic's Custom Match-inator

[junior tiger]

we have opened our eyes

[empty ore]

VICS MOD 2 TOMORROW CHAT

[heady sand]

Will rebase on 2.0.1.0 and after that we ball

Will be some sort of pre release version. Many features and maps are already present and playable

[quartz sun]

this aged well

[heady sand]

Will rebase on 2.0.2.0 and after that we ball

[tulip quiver]

1 day later:
Will rebase on 2.0.3.0 and after that we ball

[heady sand]

Gu

[quartz sun]

at this point VCMI will be rebased on v3.0

[naive escarp]

vcmi 2.0.3.0 will release in 2030

[undone ivy]

actually it will release on 9.9.9.9 version on year 9999

[heady sand]

guys come on 🙄 this is going WELL

it's NOT going to take another 5 months

[spare swift]

theres so much wrong with that image

[heady sand]

yeah, a lot went wrong very quickly. many merges have gone well with no issues, and it looked promising. but once the upgrade to unity 6 arrived, everything broke so hard

agh i don't wanna re-port everything now, even though i can copy paste all assets, i've made so many changes in all sorts of scripts i can't possibly remember

but the merges really are just not it

[spare swift]

you poor soul

ill pray for you

[heady sand]

i could just go a few commits back before this last broken merge pictured up there, and release that

cause everything works OK there

but that's a 3 month old 1.8

sigh

think vic think

[cosmic swan]

yeah merges have Been CRAZY... so i instead just made thing unrelated to existing files and it went well...

-# just... Not for the mod i didn't do that for... (you know the one)
gud lucks tho...

[gloomy socket]

vic i swear im not goìng crazy the bg looks a bit squished for some reason pleas check if the scale is set up properly omg 🥹

[heady sand]

you'd be correctorl, it is squished

[quartz sun]

maybe you could try to rewrite VCMI rather than trying to merge old code

[heady sand]

yeah that is the path i will take in the end...

both choices are tons of work but rewriting is definitely much cleaner

and i can obviously copy-paste assets like the maps and characters

[coarse birch]

if I can patiently wait for v2 I can patiently wait for vcmi <3

[heady sand]

idk what emoji is more representative of this mod

[boreal ibex]

⚙️

[tulip quiver]

🎲?

[spice schooner]

Ok time to pick the most nieche emoji i know!!

🦠 <-- this one

[naive escarp]

This mod isn't decaying wdym

[spice schooner]

shit

Right

Uhhh

📈 i think this works..

[cosmic swan]

🦤

[gloomy socket]

🔧

[craggy iris]

☣️

[heady sand]

These are all very good options...

[boreal ibex]

vic release vcmi for 3.0

so no one can play or fact check its existence due to no vanilla 3.0 yet

[heady sand]

I'll travel in time and have all unreleased features like voice chat and penguin suit and idk what else before they even get announced

🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

Hmm... Dunno

[craggy iris]

🐕‍🦺🕥

[heady sand]

dogwait

freaking dogwait

[boreal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/toby-fox-deltarune-undertale-dog-meme-gif-3694215189381414809

dog wait

[tulip quiver]

new mod leaked

[naive escarp]

vic will you add disable fire hard knockback as a special rule

[quartz sun]

will you add "every second" events?

[heady sand]

Uhh sure fine

[heady sand]

Uhh sure fine

[craggy iris]

will you add a cat to the main menu

[gloomy socket]

vic will you add wario

[heady sand]

Uhh sure fine

[heady sand]

No

[gloomy socket]

fire

[naive escarp]

vic will you add all mario kart world enemies?

[heady sand]

Naw

[vagrant surge]

vic will you remove all mario kart world enemies

[heady sand]

Object reference not set to an instance of an object

[novel comet]

vic are you neutral about mario kart world enemies

[heady sand]

no, I'm actually quite OK with them because i like more representation for mario enemies

[stone atlas]

i havent been on this thread in a while

[gloomy socket]

vic what’s your reaction to the Vic questions returning to the thread

-# just like old 1.7 vcmi times :sobbing sob 🥲

[naive escarp]

vic's Qustom Ratch-inator

[tulip quiver]

vic's Qustom natch-Ator

(vQnA)

[heady sand]

I like the letters they're made from

[craggy iris]

vic what is your favorite letter

[heady sand]

the g from the android skull keyboard

[boreal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-epic-cool-cool-skeleton-keyboard-gif-9406471634714037785

[royal thistle]

Vic you are awesome

Thank you

[heady sand]

I don't know what I did to deserve such kind words, but thank you I appreciate it

[quartz sun]

Vic you are 最 and 高 :3

[heady sand]

Guess what

[tulip quiver]

1 day later:
Will rebase on 2.0.4.0 and after that we ball

[heady sand]

Gu

[vagrant surge]

your about me is evil lol

[heady sand]

what? it's just a normal heartfelt message... :]

[vagrant surge]

encoding errors

[heady sand]

discord more and more buggy by the day... 🙄

[naive escarp]

discord is too bad to implement that language

vic is just superior

[heady sand]

bogos binted

[boreal ibex]

vic.

what is your opinion about yogurt.

[heady sand]

It's ok

[boreal ibex]

do you prefer one type over the other

[heady sand]

What type!

[boreal ibex]

drinkable

or the other one

[heady sand]

Ah. Depends

Ok nvm it doesn't, I choose drinkable

[boreal ibex]

yay

[naive escarp]

refreshing

vic you should add a tiny yogurt easter egg somewhere in vcmi