vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 1:29 PM

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imo it's actually easier to use

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if you have previous programming experience, anyways...

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higher skill floor, lower skill ceiling

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most people modding the game would be near 0 on the Y axis tho so it might pose more issues for new modders

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but for people like u it'd be so easy

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for example, creating a new custom rule in vic's would just be adding to a dictionary via a command

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rules won't have weird host-based issues either

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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vagrant surge

that's actually very curious to see

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of course my plan was to migrate to quantum eventually because i saw the original nightly wasn't going to be updated anymore, but i wanted to wait until it became more playable. i'm in no rush anyway
but yeah for sure

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a pretty nasty obstacle i had while porting the rules system from 1.7 to fusion was... syncing the dictionary of rules with everyone before the match started. in 1.7 i just converted it to json and put it in the room properties. in the old nightly i saw the system had changed, but i had a hard time extending it to support an entire data structure like a dict, or a huge ass string like a json instead of simple numbers (i eventually planned to use some weird super compressed representation instead of a json so it could sync without lagging out but didn't fully develop it yet). i... hope this is possible again in quantum? :(

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cause what i discovered in the fusion version was that i could either use networked vars, which weren't suitable for my usecase because those updated constantly, and i didn't need that overhead (rules never change after starting a match), and they supported very few specific data types. or keep using the room properties but i saw you migrated from those (i might be wrong) which was almost confirmed by the fusion docs i read saying those aren't good for game states or something like that

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 2:39 PM

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heady sand a pretty nasty obstacle i had while porting the rules system from 1.7 to fusion ...

i... hope this is possible again in quantum?
it is :)

global {
  list<CustomRule> CustomRules;
}

struct CustomRule {
  int ConditionId;
  int EffectId;
}

and then, in a "system", you can do something like

public unsafe class RuleChangeSystem : SystemMainThread {
  public override void Update(Frame f) {
    // Get the command that the host wants to execute
    PlayerRef host = QuantumUtils.GetHostPlayer(f, out _);

    if (f.GetPlayerCommand(host) is CommandChangeRules changeRules) {
      // The host wants to modify/add/remove a command
      QList<CustomRule> ruleList = f.ResolveList(f.Global->CustomRules);
      bool validIndex = changeRules.Index > 0 && changeRules.Index < ruleList.Count;

      if (changeRules.Remove) {
        if (validIndex) {
          // remove a rule at a given index
          ruleList.Remove(changeRules.Index);         
        }
      } else if (validIndex) {
        // modify an existing rule
        ruleList[changeRules.Index] = changeRules.NewRule;
      } else {
        // add a new rule
        ruleList.Add(changeRules.NewRule);
      }
    }
  }
}

public class CommandChangeRules : DeterminsticCommand {
  public int Index;
  public bool Remove;
  public CustomRule NewRule;

  public override void Serialize(BitStream stream) {
    stream.Serialize(ref Index);
    stream.Serialize(ref Remove);
    stream.Serialize(ref NewRule);
  }
}

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and this is all you have to do

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you can even add an event that gets triggered when a rule changes

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 2:47 PM

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Right
So it is going to be responsible for serialising the struct, instead of having to write a function for that myself

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 2:47 PM

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the rules are automatically serialized, syncronized (even for late joiners), uneditable by non-hosts, and guaranteed to not be desynced.

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 2:47 PM

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heady sand Right So *it* is going to be responsible for serialising the struct, instead of ...

correct

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it can handle primitives, other structs, AssetRefs (which are like scriptable objects) etc.

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you do need to serialize the command manually but that's just calling stream.Serialize on each one

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 2:48 PM

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vagrant surge the rules are automatically serialized, syncronized (even for late joiners), une...

Man, that's splendid. Again, networked vars from before kinda almost did this but the list of rules was so heavy it actually lagged the game from being transmitted (almost unnecessarily) every frame

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 2:48 PM

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yeah. :)

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Quantum doesn't sync anything past the initial snapshot

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it just starts out synced and then does dead reckoning of sorts on inputs / commands.

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it also supports rollback and prediction, but even increasing your input lag to reduce the amount of prediction (the insane prediction is why old 1.8 jitters around so much)

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 2:50 PM

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Oh so it listens and sends events

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 2:50 PM

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heady sand Oh so it listens and sends events

wym?

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:06 PM

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Sorta assumed it used a system of events and listeners for the rule changes instead of a continuous update

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:09 PM

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heady sand Sorta assumed it used a system of events and listeners for the rule changes inst...

ah yes correct

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you can define custom events and emit them from the simulation, which can be listened to in unity

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so you'd add csharp synced event RulesChanged { } to a special .qtn file; which would allow you to do f.Events.RulesChanged(); inside of the system, and then in unity:

public class Example : MonoBehaviour {
  public void Start() {
    QuantumEvent.Subscribe<EventRulesChanged>(this, OnRulesChanged);
  }

  private unsafe void OnRulesChanged(EventRulesChanged e) {
    Frame f = e.Game.Frames.Verified;
    QList<CustomRule> rules = f.ResolveList(f.Global->CustomRules);
    // do whatever
  }
}```

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(synced events are "verified" only, so it wouldnt run for prediction; so you'd avoid false positives)

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:20 PM

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The extra Syntax of e.Game.Frames.Verified, f.Global->CustomRules, unsafe... is a bit scary but one can learn

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:21 PM

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then you can put the frame as a parameter to the event

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synced event RulesChanged {
  Frame Frame;
}```
along with `f.Events.RulesChanged(f);`, and then you can do `e.Frame` in unity

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tbh, its what I usually do for events.

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you might be able to pass a QList the same way to avoid using the pointer? I've never tried it

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:23 PM

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Also small tangent but I got a bit disappointed when seeing how many more... redundant-looking files? had to be created, i.e. this entire directory

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:29 PM

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heady sand Also small tangent but I got a bit disappointed when seeing how many more... red...

wym?

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all those already existed (besides MarioPhysics.asset), just inside Assets/ScriptableObjects before.

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:30 PM

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Oh... Huh.

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Did I dream it then

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Give me a sec

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:30 PM

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oh and Maps didn't exist either

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but characters, music, powerups, all existed.

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(...Projectile didnt)

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also, not sure how they'd be "redundant" tbh

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:31 PM

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Yeah I think I saw the new qtn files and got a bit freaked out

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:32 PM

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ohh the qtn files

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:32 PM

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vagrant surge also, not sure how they'd be "redundant" tbh

Nah I thought those were additional files in addition to the scriptables, but if you say they're just the same ones moved to there then that's ok

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:32 PM

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qtn's are files that contains quantum-serialized definitions for stuff

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so the mario component would be separate from the mario system

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which would technically break them up into two, while before it would just be PlayerController.cs

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Right
And do you know what the qprototype ones are?

vagrant surge Sep 25, 2024, 3:34 PM

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QPrototypeXXX are for adding components to prefabs

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so a mario player prefab would have a QPrototypeMarioPlayer, a QPrototypeInteractable, a QPrototypeFreezable, etc.

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they're autogenerated from the .qtns

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it's like a struct that you can attach to an entity

heady sand Sep 25, 2024, 4:33 PM

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aight that's fair
thx for the demos btw

gloomy socket Sep 29, 2024, 12:36 AM

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we're so custommatchinating

naive escarp Sep 29, 2024, 12:43 AM

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This is satisfying for some reason

wind oriole Sep 29, 2024, 12:44 AM

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obs! 🔥

cosmic swan Sep 29, 2024, 12:44 AM

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grrr

gloomy socket Sep 29, 2024, 12:46 AM

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cosmic swan grrr

why grrr 🥺

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is it cuz no game bar

gloomy socket Sep 29, 2024, 12:46 AM

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naive escarp This is satisfying for some reason

also lucky the window doesnt crash 🫠

cosmic swan Sep 29, 2024, 12:50 AM

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gloomy socket why grrr 🥺

grr cuz it crashes for moi

cosmic swan Sep 29, 2024, 12:51 AM

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gloomy socket also lucky the window doesnt crash 🫠

I Guess he is Windows 10V After All...

heady sand Sep 29, 2024, 12:59 AM

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naive escarp This is satisfying for some reason

that's soooo smooth

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well done me

cosmic swan Sep 29, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Well Done Ya Crashed My Pc heheh

quartz sun Oct 3, 2024, 7:19 PM

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rulesets

📎 balloon_atsume_9.5.json 📎 balloon_atsume_8.4.json 📎 coin_atsume_battle_6_freeze.json 📎 balloon_battle_2.json

heady sand Oct 3, 2024, 7:26 PM

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thank you

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btw idea?

quartz sun Oct 3, 2024, 7:30 PM

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heady sand btw idea?

what does that mean

heady sand Oct 3, 2024, 7:32 PM

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knockbacks don't leave you with no control

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stuns have no duration

quartz sun Oct 3, 2024, 7:32 PM

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ah

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I'd rather name it "remove knockback"

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or "disable stunning"

gloomy socket Oct 3, 2024, 7:39 PM

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wait i think i suggested this once before actually but not in a post

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i think it was due to jet run badge in wonder ignoring it lmao

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its a good idea

quartz sun Oct 3, 2024, 7:40 PM

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Coin Atsume I actually posted already

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but no one gave a shit back then

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 3:39 AM

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vic's mod iOS eta wen?

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||soon :)||

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 4:03 AM

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@heady sand Guess what?

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iOS port is done 🙂

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for your mod

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 4:21 AM

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Just gotta apply the 60fps patch I made

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 4:52 AM

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Download is here:
https://github.com/0-Blu/NSMB-MarioVsLuigi-iOS-Ports/releases/tag/iOS-Beta-Builds

GitHub

Release iOS Beta Builds · 0-Blu/NSMB-MarioVsLuigi-iOS-Ports

Added:
-Vic's Mod Build
-Vanilla Build
Fixes:

60 FPS Support

Coming Soon:

On Screen Controls to Vanilla

heady sand Oct 4, 2024, 9:26 AM

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Ooooh... For version 10 I assume?

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That's rad, do I have permission to put a link to this on my repo's readme?

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Wait btw @vague bison , did you add on-screen controls to your vcmi iOS build? I ask this because it's not necessary since I already had them added

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Oh and even the FPS setting is there, it doesn't need any extra scripts for mobile since I was already supporting android

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 2:12 PM

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heady sand Ooooh... For version 10 I assume?

Yeah

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 2:12 PM

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heady sand That's rad, do I have permission to put a link to this on my repo's readme?

Sure

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 2:12 PM

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heady sand Wait btw <@963160481554628638> , did you add on-screen controls to your vcmi iOS...

I did not

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 2:13 PM

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heady sand Oh and even the FPS setting is there, it doesn't need any extra scripts for mobi...

There is a setting, I must have missed that lol. Most apple devices are 60fps anyway. When I had first built it it was running at 30fps on my phone.

heady sand Oct 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Oh well, not a big deal

heady sand Oct 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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vague bison Sure

Super, thank you

heady sand Oct 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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vague bison I did not

Good

wind oriole Oct 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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hi vic

heady sand Oct 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Hello be

vague bison Oct 4, 2024, 3:03 PM

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heady sand Super, thank you

The only thing I added/changed was that one fps script btw

quartz sun Oct 5, 2024, 12:12 AM

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unfortunately this mode does work with the current version of Vcmi as the host only is affected by the "every n secs", it is a fun single player challenge I guess

📎 countdown_mode.json

heady sand Oct 6, 2024, 1:42 AM

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i think i will release the new update in its current state, that is, no new characters and maps just the new gamemodes and whtever
since my focus will now be on the all new mvlo maker, i don't see myself motivated to finish this up so might as well just update it as it is

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super sorry to everyone that's been excited for this since i've been hyping it up since august, but i really am unable to keep myself from procrastinating huh!!

gloomy socket Oct 6, 2024, 2:22 AM

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are you adding frosted vcmi additions 🥺

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i NEED the coin dropping 👽

foggy vault Oct 6, 2024, 2:25 AM

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heady sand i think i will release the new update in its current state, that is, no new char...

Well there goes Mapno 3 😔

heady sand Oct 6, 2024, 2:28 AM

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gloomy socket are you adding frosted vcmi additions 🥺

uhh ya should be there

heady sand Oct 6, 2024, 2:28 AM

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foggy vault Well there goes Mapno 3 😔

doesn't mean it's completely scrapped, might be reserved for the future

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just that the process of adding maps and adding characters are things i don't really like lol

cosmic swan Oct 6, 2024, 3:37 AM

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I hate Adding Characters...

gloomy socket Oct 6, 2024, 3:42 AM

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funny how the 2 times i've tried adding characters i get their assets prepared so well but when im nearly done adding them i just lose the motivation to continue trying to add them 🫠

heady sand Oct 10, 2024, 3:22 AM

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normal maps (for fancy sprite lighting) have finally been fixed and now look better... (old on left, new on right)

naive escarp Oct 10, 2024, 3:38 AM

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sweet

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What about character's lighting... @heady sand @heady sand @heady sand @heady sand

gloomy socket Oct 10, 2024, 4:03 AM

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heady sand normal maps (for fancy sprite lighting) have finally been fixed and now look bet...

ew i never noticed the old one sob i always use nds res so u cant even see those errors

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awesome job at fixing it tho

heady sand Oct 10, 2024, 9:44 AM

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naive escarp What about character's lighting... <@475692985523109909> <@475692985523109909> <...

What do you mean?

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Like the lighting on characters? That's always been there and working, dw

sick sequoia Oct 10, 2024, 11:30 AM

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Hi vic

heady sand Oct 10, 2024, 10:28 PM

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default usernames (Player1234 from vanilla) are now themed to vcmi characters lol

naive escarp Oct 10, 2024, 10:28 PM

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drybones1616

wise urchin Oct 10, 2024, 10:32 PM

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Blockhoppr

junior tiger Oct 10, 2024, 10:35 PM

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heady sand default usernames (Player1234 from vanilla) are now themed to vcmi characters lo...

lustario69

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nabbit78

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luigi41

wise urchin Oct 10, 2024, 10:38 PM

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gabe41

foggy vault Oct 10, 2024, 10:42 PM

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goombud36

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 12:03 AM

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junior tiger lustario69

lustario is NOT a vcmi character!!

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 12:03 AM

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You can say that again

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 12:03 AM

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junior tiger lustario69

lustario is NOT a vcmi character!!

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 12:04 AM

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ok

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 12:04 AM

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3-3

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it's a draw

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 12:05 AM

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"Draw..."

wise urchin Oct 11, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Tie

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 12:14 AM

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heady sand default usernames (Player1234 from vanilla) are now themed to vcmi characters lo...

bloqhoppr1402

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 12:15 AM

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No context

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 12:39 AM

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there are now two digits only, not 4 sorry guys

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 12:53 AM

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bloqhoppr08

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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@heady sand bro lost his eyes

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(mega mushie)

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Nearest Neighbour fuckery

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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bro has a neighbour

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Make it bigger...

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 4:14 PM

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junior tiger Nearest Neighbour fuckery

better than bilinear,,,

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:14 PM

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FINDING VIC AT 18:14

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 4:15 PM

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12MS???

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Bro has the best internet

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:15 PM

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I had 9 once

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 4:18 PM

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lustario this is what you should be fetching

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:18 PM

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I got it now

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 4:19 PM

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heady sand lustario this is what you should be fetching

can i joins 🥺

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:19 PM

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stock assets

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I beat vic at racing

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again

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(I am like pro gamer now)

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 4:31 PM

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junior tiger stock assets

erm... actually... it's the snow particle png?

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 4:32 PM

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gloomy socket can i joins 🥺

we were just testing a tiny thing but sure maybe if everyone else wants...

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also,
Now Building...

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 4:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/feliz-cumpleaños-mario-party-birthday-gif-16902468

Tenor

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to vcmi

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 4:34 PM

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aw hell naaaaaw

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ohh mamma mia if this doesn't work

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 5:53 PM

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vic u shoul totally remove the ankles from the bobomb model trust me

idle hornet Oct 11, 2024, 5:56 PM

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junior tiger again

new font 🧐

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 5:57 PM

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junior tiger again

no bitmapped gradient 😔

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Left my pc at home building web while I'm gone dryskull hope it'll be done by the time I get back

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 6:33 PM

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heady sand Left my pc at home building web while I'm gone <:dryskull:1017238779871895583> h...

plottwist: "Build Error"

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 9:25 PM

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This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread for the latest.
||## New version: 17.0.11 has been released.||

#

|| - New feature! Gamemode Presets allow you to quickly load rulesets from a curated list. Enjoy hide and seek, deathmatch with HP, and more!

Some new Special Effects (no stunlock, fast death animation, perma-freeze, no coins, no powerups).
Some new Conditions (touched ground), and Actions (drop coin, drop star, get i-frames).
Multiple new character colour palettes.
Many UI revisions to make it prettier, as well as quality of life improvements.
Music quality has been significantly improved. Also, proper audio has returned to the Linux and Android builds.
Many enemies now enjoy a new life in 3D!
Some bug fixes all over the place!
-# This version does not yet include any new characters or maps.
-# This version sadly includes an unskippable watermark at boot. I apologize for the annoyance.

Thanks for the huge support, and enjoy this update with, disappointingly, a bunch of cut content!

Get it using the Mod Loader or by visiting this link: https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/tag/v17.0.11 ||

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:27 PM

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downloading rn

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 9:28 PM

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huge ggs

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:28 PM

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yall wanna hop on a lobby?

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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yuh

#

ima mak

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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too late

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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in cae

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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eu

#

NOW

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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ok nvm im not joining

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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I am tired of always playing US

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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then go to cae!!!!!

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less ping!!!!

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 9:29 PM

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Nah

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Same ping

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(if not even worser actually)

boreal ibex Oct 11, 2024, 9:32 PM

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what the fuck

#

WHAT

sick sequoia Oct 11, 2024, 9:57 PM

#

heady sand This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread ...

I'm gonna miss this 😔
My pc still not fixed

junior tiger Oct 11, 2024, 10:00 PM

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sick sequoia I'm gonna miss this 😔 My pc still not fixed

play android version

sick sequoia Oct 11, 2024, 10:05 PM

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I'm just bad at it
So nah

reef narwhal Oct 11, 2024, 10:05 PM

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hooray!

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 10:08 PM

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what the fuckkkkkkk

#

FJLWKÇFLWJKÇLFSJKÇDFDJKÇFDJ

naive escarp Oct 11, 2024, 10:36 PM

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@gloomy socket Where is the lobby...

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@heady sand Can i pls have code...

foggy vault Oct 11, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Goombud is still the best thing I've done for this mod

heady sand Oct 11, 2024, 11:07 PM

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Yup!

gloomy socket Oct 11, 2024, 11:10 PM

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naive escarp <@618521598584160277> Where is the lobby...

we made it private cause too many people alien

vagrant surge Oct 12, 2024, 3:36 AM

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heady sand || - New feature! Gamemode Presets allow you to quickly load rulesets from a cur...

Also, proper audio has returned to the Linux and Android builds
what'd you end up using?

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 8:54 AM

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This update doesn't add new maps

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Mostly features and bug fixes

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:35 AM

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vagrant surge > Also, proper audio has returned to the Linux and Android builds what'd you end...

The same solution we discussed some time ago, where a simple script fills the audio buffer after synthesizing the midi audio
That's why web still doesn't have music

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Based on meltysynth: https://github.com/homy-game-studio/hgs-unity-tone It's the best I could find, since it's free and doesn't rely on pre-built platform-specific libraries (it's also useful if you need to change the behaviour of the sequencer for example, which I did quite a bit)

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One could also grab the modified version of it from my repo, since I added some missing features like accessing the Tempo and silencing arbitrary channels

#

Btw, a little question for everyone

choose vcmi's fate

Do you guys really want the new characters and maps I've been neverendingly teasing over and over?
1- of course! More content and replayability!
2- hell no, that's lame! I thought vcmi was about rules, not custom maps and characters!
10- uhh, maybe something in between... just a add a smaller amount of new maps and characters...

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Discuss.

idle hornet Oct 12, 2024, 10:47 AM

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uhhh UHHH

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UHHHH

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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Please see the edited poll options

idle hornet Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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UHHH

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OK UHHHHHHHHHHHH

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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And avoid voting multiple options

cosmic swan Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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(Nobody Will Get My Reference With The Reacts) Anyways, i was just gonna say what 10 just said rip

idle hornet Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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ok

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 AM

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vic's custom charactinator

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 AM

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viv's cusuc matchinicham

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 AM

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anyways, i choose 10 players

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zaza

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blu co-

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 AM

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Thx

cosmic swan Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 AM

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I Was Refrencing A Movie-

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 AM

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buddy WHO NAMED those emojis?? 😭

foggy vault Oct 12, 2024, 11:01 AM

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heady sand Btw, a little question for everyone ## choose vcmi's fate Do you guys really wan...

VCMI still has a lot of potential for new content, but don't overwork yourself

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Aight seeing the results of the poll, I wanted to ask why you ppl voted that option. Is it because Option 1 would make the mod too overwhelming?

foggy vault Oct 12, 2024, 1:54 PM

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I respect the fact that you're busy with MvLO Maker

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 2:54 PM

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Oh
Thx for that

gloomy socket Oct 12, 2024, 2:54 PM

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yea sorta same, when I made 4-5 and 7-1 I understood why u didn’t really want to bother to add new maps, and characters are probably even more annoying lol

sick sequoia Oct 12, 2024, 3:29 PM

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I thought 7-1 is impossible for racers

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It has a lot of moving platforms 👽

gloomy socket Oct 12, 2024, 3:42 PM

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i mean its not impossible but i never tried it with more people 👽

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i sorta rushed it 🫠

austere skiff Oct 12, 2024, 5:40 PM

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woah new vcmi update

junior tiger Oct 12, 2024, 5:55 PM

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junior tiger Oct 12, 2024, 5:55 PM

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heady sand This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread ...

official, dont sue me

dense shadow Oct 12, 2024, 6:23 PM

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cool update

sick sequoia Oct 12, 2024, 6:29 PM

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dense shadow cool update

I agree 💯💯💯

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Cold update

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 6:30 PM

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Thanks update

dense shadow Oct 12, 2024, 6:30 PM

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yw update

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 6:30 PM

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hi update

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hi vic

sick sequoia Oct 12, 2024, 6:30 PM

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Hi updaters

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Hi minidows

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Hi vic

dense shadow Oct 12, 2024, 6:34 PM

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how are you vic

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 6:35 PM

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I'm ok

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 9:42 PM

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does the latest version of vcmi fix those weird "host only" effect and actions?

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~~and most importantly, does it bring back that weird bug when having "On bumped into .. launch player"?~~

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:08 PM

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quartz sun does the latest version of vcmi fix those weird "host only" effect and actions?

unfortunately not

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the good part of that is that some rulesets that rely on that bug are preserved

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 10:09 PM

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junior tiger

whats so disappointing with the update?

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:09 PM

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supple wraith whats so disappointing with the update?

the fact that it took so long, and yet it has a lot of cut content

junior tiger Oct 12, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Don't worry vic, we'll be patient

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Vic never fails to deliver <random bot emojis>

tough schooner Oct 12, 2024, 10:18 PM

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uh

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updates cool but the rules only effect the host is this normal

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i know they used to effect everyone

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oh

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:19 PM

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a small amount of conditions can only be triggered by the host
this has been a thing for a long time though

tough schooner Oct 12, 2024, 10:19 PM

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okay so its

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well

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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heady sand the fact that it took so long, and yet it has a lot of cut content

oh

tough schooner Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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i remember like the look up

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and the look directions used to work on anyone

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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struggling with ideas right

tough schooner Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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but its only effecting the host

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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supple wraith struggling with ideas right

nah, i've got ideas for miles. it's the motivation

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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tough schooner but its only effecting the host

yeah that thing

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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heady sand a small amount of conditions can only be triggered by the host this has been a t...

not just conditions

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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oh

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right

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 10:20 PM

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but actions as well

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like "launch player"

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:21 PM

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tough schooner and the look directions used to work on anyone

might've been pre-v9, which again was quite some time ago lol. i've made no changes to how rules work in v11 for backwards compatibility with rulesets made and shared in v10

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:21 PM

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quartz sun like "launch player"

what condition did you pair that action with to test this?

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 10:22 PM

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bumped into

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:22 PM

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hrm... that's a shame

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for some reason i have a vivid memory of launch player working w everyone

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but whatever that's not the point

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just wanted to say that all of these problems might get fixed for the first time when upgrading to vanilla 1.8 thanks to the changes ipod is doing, making a lot of stuff ewasier to code and more stable and all of that

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1157737520285634712.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=imagine

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 10:25 PM

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so the next vcmi departure on track number 1. Will be when 1.8 releases

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:25 PM

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probably yes, probably not. depends on the release date of 1.8

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might be able to squeeze one more 17 update but we'll see!!

vagrant surge Oct 12, 2024, 10:41 PM

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heady sand just wanted to say that all of these problems might get fixed for the first time...

it is!

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:42 PM

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:) yipee

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unrelated, but finally fixed that awful inaccurate note in the overworld theme

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naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Aw man

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nvm xd

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Thought i had to downlaod

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DISCORD, PLS ADD MKV SUPPORT

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 10:44 PM

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gosh it sounds so much better idk how it has never occured to me to apply this fix

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but anywho

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:45 PM

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heady sand

Also, the bob omb walks slower than the koopa?

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Didn't know that

wise urchin Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 PM

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AL-Jungle Map got removed

spare swift Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 PM

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it got removed a while ago gabriel

wise urchin Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 PM

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no

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i mean

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that map got removed in the new update

spare swift Oct 12, 2024, 10:49 PM

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yeah

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like i said

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it got removed a while ago

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in a hotfix

naive escarp Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 PM

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Why did it get removed tho...

spare swift Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 PM

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leafy doesnt want to associate with mvl

wise urchin Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 PM

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what happend to autumn leafy?

supple wraith Oct 12, 2024, 11:10 PM

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heady sand

oh

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also hyper realistic enemies!??!!??!?!?!

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 11:20 PM

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supple wraith also hyper realistic enemies!??!!??!?!?!

yes! that's already in the current version...

wise urchin Oct 12, 2024, 11:28 PM

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hey vic

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you should add more 3d enemies

heady sand Oct 12, 2024, 11:39 PM

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ok i'll

junior tiger Oct 12, 2024, 11:41 PM

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heady sand ok i'll

Are you sure you want to cancell the free smiley instaliation?

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(please don't go :()

wise urchin Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 PM

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heady sand ok i'll

you know where you can get the models

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 11:49 PM

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spare swift it got removed a while ago

Really?

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In v1.7.1.0-mini it was therr

spare swift Oct 12, 2024, 11:49 PM

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yes

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vic quietly updated it

quartz sun Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Sad

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It's my favorite race stage

boreal ibex Oct 12, 2024, 11:53 PM

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spare swift in a hotfix

you fr?

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guess im still playing the same rusty ass version..

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 2:18 AM

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wow

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the music sounds much MUCH more accurate in the latest version

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it sounds like Mario Party 2 fr fr

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 4:12 AM

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my take on balloon mode

📎 balloon_battle_3.1.json

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the special effects should include "no invincibility", "no knockback stun"

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and

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I think that's it

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this is the best version of balloon mode

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it rewards players for going to attack with coins, has a timer (every 5 seconds you lose a coin) to prevent long games and camping

heady sand Oct 13, 2024, 9:46 AM

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Got it, thx

heady sand Oct 13, 2024, 9:46 AM

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quartz sun the music sounds much MUCH more accurate in the latest version

Yeah it's also finally not broken anymore after dying

foggy vault Oct 13, 2024, 11:46 AM

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Ummm uhhhmm guys aww
What do you think about my updated sprites aww

naive escarp Oct 13, 2024, 5:52 PM

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vic it would be really good if you fixed the ice block sizes to custom characters

sick sequoia Oct 13, 2024, 5:54 PM

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Like goombud?

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The ice block size of goombud is big

heady sand Oct 13, 2024, 5:55 PM

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naive escarp vic it would be really good if you fixed the ice block sizes to custom character...

That's true

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Might make it a fixed size for the players, somehow

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 5:55 PM

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I only like it cus it’s funny but yea it should prob be fixed

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aren’t there some like extra triangles on the models that aren’t needed?

heady sand Oct 13, 2024, 5:56 PM

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It's probable that's the issue yea, but at the time didn't find them

naive escarp Oct 13, 2024, 5:57 PM

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gloomy socket I only like it cus it’s funny but yea it should prob be fixed

Some blocks glitch when trying to groundpound and fail to get past a pit if throwed with ice

vagrant surge Oct 13, 2024, 6:21 PM

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heady sand Might make it a fixed size for the players, somehow

I think one mod disables the model and makes the ice block opaque to avoid the size issue

sick sequoia Oct 13, 2024, 6:22 PM

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⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 6:22 PM

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vagrant surge I think one mod disables the model and makes the ice block opaque to avoid the s...

which

wise urchin Oct 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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NSMBVersus_vics_Custom_Match-inator_2024-10-13_16-48-11-888.jpg

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boo

heady sand Oct 13, 2024, 10:48 PM

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my "remove unity splash screen" script broke right the day i build vcmi so unfortunately we're all stuck with that long ass loading screen

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that nobody wants to see

naive escarp Oct 13, 2024, 10:49 PM

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spiny my beloved

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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drop 5 coins?

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drop 3 coins?

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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quartz sun drop 5 coins?

its a lil something confusing...

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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add 15 seconds?

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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(where are u even getting this from)

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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why do the random rules give more freedom than the non-random rules 😭

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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OH WAIT

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@heady sand lol u forgot to remove some of the rules 👽👽

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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the best part is that the random rules can randomly selected incompatible rules and then the error sound plays

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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quartz sun why do the random rules give more freedom than the non-random rules 😭

these are rules i made on my own modded build of vcmi
vic liked some and ported those over, but i think he ported over the whole script which resulted in some of the rules that werent even functional to appear

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like the add to timer rule only works for host i think

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dropping coins works perfectly fine tho

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(also i think this isnt that big of a deal anyways cuz the same happened with the bah rule before it got re-implemented lol...)

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:59 PM

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explode player

wise urchin Oct 13, 2024, 10:59 PM

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kaboom

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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quartz sun explode player

this actually crashes the game lol....

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:01 PM

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doesn't crash the game when I use it

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just an explosion plays, no damage

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these are so cool 😭

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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oh

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try going to the interactable blocks...

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btw i joiend to check it out

wise urchin Oct 13, 2024, 11:03 PM

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ok

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i come

junior tiger Oct 13, 2024, 11:06 PM

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When do you get 3 bars for the connection icon

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Do you need like 0ms?

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 11:10 PM

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👽

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honestly i dont blame vic for not adding the remaining rules for the time being, when i was adding the rules myself i hated it aswell even if its easy 🫠

junior tiger Oct 13, 2024, 11:12 PM

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gloomy socket 👽

That BG of the ui

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Is that

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RENEW-

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

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THIS IS INCREDIBLE

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These secret rules solve so many problems with gamemodes

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

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mfw the ui background is black and the preview is grassland:

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''secret rules'' 😭

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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now with things like "give ice flower" or "launch iceball" you can play Hide n Seek without the other players stealing your ice ball

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or have a proper HP battle where you don't have to worry about people stealing your powerups

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Random mode

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I love you

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will you be my Hatsune Miku and I'm the Rin?

junior tiger Oct 13, 2024, 11:16 PM

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gloomy socket mfw the ui background is black and the preview is grassland:

It's a bg for RENEWED tho

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Teehee

quartz sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:17 PM

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Hooooo hoo hooo

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right here

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in my paws

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the secret rules

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BWAHAHAHAH IT WORKS

gloomy socket Oct 13, 2024, 11:46 PM

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oh i forgot u can edit the json aswell lol....

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ima try to make a list of all the rules latr

quartz sun Oct 14, 2024, 1:08 AM

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VCMI IS UNPLAYABLE

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look at this

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you can see 1 pixel of Luigi :/ in the Mario thing

wise urchin Oct 14, 2024, 1:12 AM

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the same thing happends to me sometimes

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:30 AM

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@naive escarp @quartz sun this literally turns any map into fortress 😭

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cant keep stars for shit 👽

quartz sun Oct 14, 2024, 1:33 AM

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@gloomy socket CHANGE THE MAP

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NO

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THE RULES

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THIS MODE SUCKS

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:39 AM

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that jungle match was so funny but it became exhausting near the end 👽

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:50 AM

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That's... Interesting

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I got no comment lmao

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:50 AM

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vic can i make a tutorial for adding the rules 🥺

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since they're not manually selectable ingame u can edit the json

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sdkjfkjd

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:50 AM

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gloomy socket vic can i make a tutorial for adding the rules 🥺

probably a post in the mod's thread or smt

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Hrm, idk if I want the general public to learn how to edit the Jason ruleset files

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:51 AM

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fair lol

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:51 AM

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We can share files w these "secret rules" around, sure

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But telling others how to exploit other aspects of the file format not comfy with

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 1:52 AM

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ye no worries

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probably jus gonna make a few rulesets out there for others to use

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:52 AM

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Also I'll be honest I'm regretting not adding stuff like "give X plwerup", but my reasoning was that without the parameters screen it'd get too overwhelming with one action option for every single powerup

quartz sun Oct 14, 2024, 1:53 AM

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heady sand Hrm, idk if I want the general public to learn how to edit the Jason ruleset fil...

The way I see it, editing the json files is much more efficient for stacking effects compared to using the ingame editor

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even if you're not adding "secret rules"

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:54 AM

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A "duplicate" button is missing...

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Btw, do the give X powerup work for everyone?

quartz sun Oct 14, 2024, 1:55 AM

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yes

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Man...

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 3:09 AM

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even with directional inputs somehow

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 3:10 AM

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heady sand A "duplicate" button is missing...

lol I added this myself 💀

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I found it much more useful than anything else lmao

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tbh being able to freely code anything into vcmi would be so cool if you had the knowledge

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might make it a bit a abusable though

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 7:50 PM

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wise urchin Oct 14, 2024, 7:52 PM

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gloomy socket

what color are you using?

sleek laurelBOT Oct 14, 2024, 8:21 PM

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snow oriole Oct 14, 2024, 8:22 PM

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hes boumcy

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 8:22 PM

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blue snow spike

naive escarp Oct 14, 2024, 8:22 PM

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Block hopper 🔫

sleek laurelBOT Oct 14, 2024, 8:32 PM

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cosmic swan Oct 14, 2024, 8:32 PM

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He's Extra Bouncy

naive escarp Oct 14, 2024, 11:48 PM

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It's so over

gloomy socket Oct 14, 2024, 11:48 PM

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sob

foggy vault Oct 14, 2024, 11:58 PM

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who remembers when you could Collect Coin > Give Star and Collect Star > Give Coin at the same time?

heady sand Oct 14, 2024, 11:59 PM

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Still possible indirectly 😊
https://discord.com/channels/1115917756672524353/1263988286494609450

foggy vault Oct 15, 2024, 12:03 AM

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oh cool

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:03 AM

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I WISH there was a condition that was "FirstSpawn" or "Init"

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I would love for events to only happen ONCE

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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"match started" condition?

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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yeah

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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OK*!*

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 12:05 AM

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naive escarp It's so over

i think this list style looks a bit better instead...

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repeated rules have a * X next to them

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:06 AM

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heady sand i think this list style looks a bit better instead...

Spawned -> Give Coin*99

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:)

cosmic swan Oct 15, 2024, 12:06 AM

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heady sand repeated rules have a `* X` next to them

Could ya Have A Option To Easily Repeat Rules Too?

junior tiger Oct 15, 2024, 12:06 AM

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Hi Vic

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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yeah

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like when you click on a rule it asks "Repeat?"

junior tiger Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Hi Turnip

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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or on the action box

cosmic swan Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Me When i Spend 10 Mins Just Adding Remove Coin & Add Coin on Spawn:

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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cosmic swan Me When i Spend 10 Mins Just Adding Remove Coin & Add Coin on Spawn:

me using my brain and copy pasting it in the file

cosmic swan Oct 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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quartz sun me using my brain and copy pasting it in the file

Done That

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Tho Risky

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lol

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I Think The x Button Could be Changed To A Edit Rule prompt, Where you Can Change How many Times it's Done Or Delete it, This Could Also be Used To Change Targets Of A Future version

gloomy socket Oct 15, 2024, 12:24 AM

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@naive escarp 👽

naive escarp Oct 15, 2024, 12:24 AM

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@gloomy socket You baffoon!

abstract field Oct 15, 2024, 1:51 AM

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@heady sand I've played this mod in the past but it's telling me to update. When I do, the new download file says it cannot be opened. On Mac Silicon

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 2:02 AM

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abstract field <@475692985523109909> I've played this mod in the past but it's telling me to up...

please try using the mod loader to install vcmi, and tell me if it works: https://github.com/vlcoo/MvLO-ModLoader?tab=readme-ov-file#downloads
if still nothing, i might have another alternative

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that program should automatically add the required permissions to run the game/mod

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 2:08 AM

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rule publish*!*
Countdown mode. Every 5 second you get a coin, you start as fire. Hitting a player with a fireball gives them a coin, stomping on them gives them 2 coins. Dying gives you 3 coins, and taking damage adds 2 coins. When you reach the coin limit you die.
Win Condition:
There are two win conditions, one is player with highest star wins (even if eliminated) or last player standing wins.
Length:
5 * coinlimit
So for example, a match with 10 as the coin limit means the match will last at most 50 seconds provided no one gets hit, a match with 30 as the coin limit will have a match a little over 2 minutes.
We recommend you have "Show Everyone's Coin Limit".
Modifications:
You can add/remove conditions to make punishments harsher or less harsh.
Enjoy

📎 countdown_mode_better_3.1.json

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 2:10 AM

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adding got star -> remove coin(s) to that provides a good balance... removes difficulty in a nice way

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 2:11 AM

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I thought of that, but that just extends matches and makes dead players wait even more

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it also gives the first player to get to the star an advantage as they'll have a lower coin score

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this ruleset would be MUCH better if "Every1Sec" was still here

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 2:13 AM

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what action would happen every 1 sec?

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 2:13 AM

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give coin

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 2:13 AM

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ah

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 2:14 AM

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that would make a 99 coin match last 99 seconds at most

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you could I guess, add 4 more "Every5sec", but it just feels wrong

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if there was a v1.7.1.1.1, it better have that

junior tiger Oct 15, 2024, 5:33 PM

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real ogs remember

naive escarp Oct 15, 2024, 5:34 PM

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3 bars 🤯

junior tiger Oct 15, 2024, 5:37 PM

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The Font for the usernames look like some text made by an Ai Lmao

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 10:49 PM

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i might've made a great mistake while coding in the ping icon

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first to find the error gets it

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 10:49 PM

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heady sand first to find the error gets it

if it's below 0

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 10:50 PM

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ya...

gloomy socket Oct 15, 2024, 11:33 PM

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no wonder its never 3 bars sob

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whats supposed to be the limit

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 11:43 PM

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gloomy socket no wonder its never 3 bars sob

erm actually

gloomy socket Oct 15, 2024, 11:44 PM

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that is NOT .11

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Oh

junior tiger Oct 15, 2024, 11:44 PM

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The Crown

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Not rounded connection icons

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 11:54 PM

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& ugly-ish font

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 11:55 PM

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quartz sun erm actually

The bug is present only in v11. I accidentally introduced it when remaking ui.png

quartz sun Oct 15, 2024, 11:58 PM

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If you make a v1.7.1.1.1, add Every1Sec

heady sand Oct 15, 2024, 11:59 PM

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I'll probably do it as a "secret rule"-only

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Also v1.7.1.1.1 makes no sense for vmci

quartz sun Oct 16, 2024, 12:04 AM

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A bug fix of a bug fix

quartz sun Oct 16, 2024, 12:04 AM

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heady sand I'll probably do it as a "secret rule"-only

Hallllliluya

foggy vault Oct 16, 2024, 11:52 PM

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goombud mains rise up

naive escarp Oct 16, 2024, 11:52 PM

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Fix the iceblock!!!!!!!!!!!@!@!@

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i hate gokmbud iceblock !!!!!!!@!@

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hi eevy

foggy vault Oct 16, 2024, 11:53 PM

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hindows

heady sand Oct 16, 2024, 11:56 PM

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yeah it's kinda unfair

foggy vault Oct 17, 2024, 12:35 AM

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🐀

boreal ibex Oct 17, 2024, 12:44 AM

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that's one hell of a sentence

foggy vault Oct 17, 2024, 12:44 AM

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can you tell I accidentally said "vic" instead of

boreal ibex Oct 17, 2024, 12:53 AM

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no

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not really

naive escarp Oct 17, 2024, 1:06 AM

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foggy vault

are you going crazy

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just joking

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poor vic

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DONT KILL HIM!!!!!!!@!@!

wind oriole Oct 18, 2024, 3:24 PM

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foggy vault

hi

foggy vault Oct 22, 2024, 1:21 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295509846296367190/1298091285969899560/viccrash.mp4?ex=67184d37&is=6716fbb7&hm=3c7ad8d42dfa45ebd19d22ab91db9ca43d40e3c58b7bb205209006d1ef316295& wip video about peak gamemode

▶ Play video

quartz sun Oct 22, 2024, 1:29 AM

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俺いない～！

spare swift Oct 22, 2024, 1:48 AM

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the beginning had me thinking it was gonna be robodachi

foggy vault Oct 22, 2024, 1:56 AM

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It’s literally the same sample WHAT 😭

junior tiger Oct 22, 2024, 4:31 AM

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foggy vault https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295509846296367190/1298091285969899560/v...

https://tenor.com/view/what-help-me-roblox-chicken-nugget-gif-11162425866070596885

Tenor

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Nice reference

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:troll

sterile aspen Oct 22, 2024, 7:10 PM

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quartz sun unfortunately this mode does work with the current version of Vcmi as the host o...

untrue, every () seconds works for everyone with spawn enemy

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And random tp

boreal ibex Oct 22, 2024, 7:42 PM

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blud really wanted to talk to someone who left

heady sand Oct 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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The person is literally still here

boreal ibex Oct 22, 2024, 8:19 PM

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this is like seeing a star

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that shit is surely dead already you just thinking its still there

wise urchin Oct 22, 2024, 11:12 PM

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boreal ibex Oct 22, 2024, 11:16 PM

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D:

wise urchin Oct 22, 2024, 11:31 PM

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hide n seek or die

sterile aspen Oct 22, 2024, 11:56 PM

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very true

gloomy socket Oct 22, 2024, 11:58 PM

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freeze tag where

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literally the best mode ever

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seudkfjsdkjf

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(only ivy and vic and probably some others can confirm)

sterile aspen Oct 23, 2024, 12:00 AM

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Vic should make a rule that slows the game down and speeds the game up trolled

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Also freezes the player in place without ice

heady sand Oct 23, 2024, 12:01 AM

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gloomy socket freeze tag where

literally adding it to the presets for next upd

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it's a great breakthrough in the vcmi rulesets

gloomy socket Oct 23, 2024, 12:02 AM

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last year we got hide n seek as the breakthrough

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this year we got freeze tag!!!

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we so up rn

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close update times too euskdfj

snow oriole Oct 23, 2024, 12:45 AM

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next year we make murder mystery

naive escarp Oct 25, 2024, 5:02 AM

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heady sand i might've made a great mistake while coding in the ping icon

Maybe:
0-69 great
70-119 good
120-179 fair
180-♾️ bad

gloomy socket Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 AM

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snow oriole next year we make murder mystery

quick, we need a special to fit for murder mystery!

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last year players behind terrain allowed for hns, this year no auto defrost allowed for freeze tag

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what would allow murder mystery....

sterile aspen Oct 25, 2024, 5:26 AM

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gloomy socket what would allow murder mystery....

Message on death

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But no telling who the player died to

gloomy socket Oct 25, 2024, 5:29 AM

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thats not neccesarily a special effect though

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more something like a toggle like the ''show everyone's coin count'' one

cosmic swan Oct 25, 2024, 5:35 AM

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gloomy socket more something like a toggle like the ''show everyone's coin count'' one

Probaby Target Exclusive Rules

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ongamestart - Random Player - give coin - Self

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Somethin Like That

gloomy socket Oct 25, 2024, 5:37 AM

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cosmic swan ongamestart - Random Player - give coin - Self

~~is this frosted vcmi trolled ~~

cosmic swan Oct 25, 2024, 5:37 AM

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gloomy socket ~~is this frosted vcmi <:trolled:1011489629171621940> ~~

no...
You Don't Have ongamestart Silly

wind oriole Oct 25, 2024, 6:58 AM

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naive escarp Maybe: 0-69 great 70-119 good 120-179 fair 180-♾️ bad

190 iq

naive escarp Oct 25, 2024, 6:58 AM

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wind oriole 190 iq

Shut up

wind oriole Oct 25, 2024, 6:59 AM

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fjdlsjfkdask; crying_octo

gloomy socket Nov 2, 2024, 9:51 PM

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bump

heady sand Nov 2, 2024, 10:24 PM

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thx frosty

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:10 PM

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bump again

junior tiger Nov 21, 2024, 8:10 PM

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HI VIC

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:19 PM

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hi vic

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 8:19 PM

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hello lust hello frosty thanks for bump
it's just that there are no news for vcmi, thing's kinda enjoying retirement

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:19 PM

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no problem vic

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:19 PM

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heady sand hello lust hello frosty thanks for bump it's just that there are no news for vcm...

too busy with mvlo maker..

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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vcmi logo bent over with a pained back and resting with a cane

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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but atleast ur making gud progress w it!!

junior tiger Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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hello all contributors gang

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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and a long white beard

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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gloomy socket too busy with mvlo maker..

yes! yes!

junior tiger Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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Peak MvLO Maker

gloomy socket Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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junior tiger hello all contributors gang

truths

junior tiger Nov 21, 2024, 8:20 PM

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The Idea will be so awesome
The Idea will be so cool

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 8:21 PM

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junior tiger Nov 21, 2024, 8:21 PM

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so true

cosmic swan Nov 21, 2024, 9:07 PM

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junior tiger hello all contributors gang

-# do i count?

heady sand Nov 21, 2024, 9:16 PM

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white (and no roles) name? psht. yeah right

cosmic swan Nov 21, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Aw Man

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vagrant surge Nov 25, 2024, 2:30 AM

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@heady sand shadows??

gloomy socket Nov 25, 2024, 2:31 AM

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me when normal maps 🔥

boreal ibex Nov 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

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vagrant surge <@475692985523109909> shadows??

Ngl this is scary

heady sand Nov 25, 2024, 2:46 AM

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vagrant surge <@475692985523109909> shadows??

Ye it's part of an effort I made in v10 and v11 to make lighting (subjectively) nicer, and one of the included changes was enabling shadow casting
For that koopa specifically I had to add a normal map to the sprite lol

vagrant surge Nov 25, 2024, 2:57 AM

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how neat

craggy iris Nov 25, 2024, 8:39 PM

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vagrant surge <@475692985523109909> shadows??

what on earth

azure pivot Nov 26, 2024, 8:52 PM

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Hey! I wanna put a new rule that's if you look up you shoot iceballs but i don't find the option to shoot iceball in the action window. You can still get the action sometimes when you select create a rando rule, is a bug??

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Done from selecting create a rando rule

vagrant surge Nov 26, 2024, 9:03 PM

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secret actions? 👀

gloomy socket Nov 26, 2024, 9:04 PM

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ummmm

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grrr i needa explain again!

gloomy socket Nov 26, 2024, 9:04 PM

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azure pivot Hey! I wanna put a new rule that's if you look up you shoot iceballs but i don't...

technically u could say its a bug but not neccesarily

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one time i made my own modded build of vcmi and vic liked some of the rules so i sent him my script with the new rules

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but he seemed to forget to remove/add to the menu a few of them

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so u can still get them from the random chances

heady sand Nov 27, 2024, 12:17 AM

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heady sand Ye it's part of an effort I made in v10 and v11 to make lighting (subjectively) ...

i'm like way, way too late to the party but i meant to explain this phenomenon with a screenshot of a place in which this is more visible, like castle's "from below" light
i did this because it helped decrease the original sprite's baked in shadow and just avoid me having to edit and duplicate/remake many versions of lit angles sprites from scratch

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but aaaanyway that conversation was long finished

gloomy socket Nov 27, 2024, 12:38 AM

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wait u were originally using sprites that just had a different lighting?

heady sand Nov 27, 2024, 2:12 AM

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No, but it could've been an alternative

gloomy socket Nov 27, 2024, 3:16 AM

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o

foggy vault Dec 6, 2024, 3:05 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994954668167934012/1118904721386786847/vicmod.jpeg?ex=675456b9&is=67530539&hm=ced81b419d32e54ff2d5a08ad693e93bac3444a5888da3da20ae2c0b2ce98abc&

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only OGs remember this image

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from like over a year ago

left tendon Dec 7, 2024, 12:54 PM

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foggy vault https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994954668167934012/1118904721386786847/vi...

average 1st time cubby mod experience in a 1 player lobby

idle hornet Dec 7, 2024, 1:20 PM

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thats not ccm

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thats vcmi.....

boreal ibex Dec 7, 2024, 5:48 PM

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that's sonic 3 & knuckles

heady sand Dec 7, 2024, 5:53 PM

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That's literally a goombud

boreal ibex Dec 7, 2024, 6:04 PM

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nuh uh that's not a goombud that's a palmtree

heady sand Dec 7, 2024, 6:04 PM

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Pepino from Pizza

boreal ibex Dec 7, 2024, 6:05 PM

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fake

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that's a man not a pepino

spark moss Dec 7, 2024, 11:39 PM

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foggy vault https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994954668167934012/1118904721386786847/vi...

Miishar spoted

flint leaf Dec 9, 2024, 4:34 AM

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@boreal ibex

boreal ibex Dec 9, 2024, 4:34 AM

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here

ember spear Dec 9, 2024, 5:02 AM

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peak

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 9:03 AM

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Unfortunately songs can't be changed anymore since they've now been moved out of the streaming assets folder

boreal ibex Dec 9, 2024, 1:06 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-slap-gif-27187796

Tenor

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 1:07 PM

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it Had to be Done

boreal ibex Dec 9, 2024, 1:17 PM

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never used the changing music thing anyway

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 1:17 PM

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It was fun while it lasted

boreal ibex Dec 9, 2024, 1:18 PM

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so what did you change that made it unusable

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 1:27 PM

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The midi files are now imported as assets and compressed into the build because it made it easier to manage when devving

gloomy socket Dec 9, 2024, 3:15 PM

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heady sand Unfortunately songs can't be changed anymore since they've now been moved out of...

i was like the one of if not the only one (not counting you prob) who used that properly besides the pack i sent publicly 💔

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 3:17 PM

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it had potential... like some sort of limited texture packs...

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but alas the change i think was for a good cause, since now the music is much less buggy than in v10

gloomy socket Dec 9, 2024, 3:23 PM

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put all the prefabs in streamingassets so we can modify their scripts with new speed scales and allat ✨

vagrant surge Dec 9, 2024, 3:25 PM

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heady sand The midi files are now imported as assets and compressed into the build because ...

this is why whenever i get a "make texture packes and model swapos in vanila possible!!!" suggestions i die inside

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because i know the overhaul that would be needed to do something that sounds as simple as this

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because you couldnt use unity editor references for ANYTHING that needs to be "customizable"

heady sand Dec 9, 2024, 3:26 PM

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ya
files in the streaming assets folder get treated differently

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in fact i used it in the first place because the previous library i used required the files to be in that folder. once i switched to a more permissive library i was eager to create and customize the midis as custom assets instead

sick sequoia Dec 12, 2024, 5:12 PM

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Vic, do not!!!!!

heady sand Dec 12, 2024, 6:04 PM

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I'd like to limit vcmi's selection of characters to Mario enemies, so that won't happen, sorry

cosmic swan Dec 13, 2024, 1:23 AM

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heady sand I'd like to limit vcmi's selection of characters to Mario enemies, so that won't...

Hmmmmmmm
Sense Shy Guy Isn't Always An Enemy..........
Does This mean you Could Add Peach Or Toad Or Wario Or ||not|| Waluigi Or Mr b Junes???

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 2:10 AM

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shy guy literally is an enemy

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many of bowser's minions are seen in friendly scenarios like pàrty or sports, but yeah naw

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 2:11 AM

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cosmic swan Hmmmmmmm Sense Shy Guy Isn't Always An Enemy.......... Does This mean you Could ...

also i don't wanna add those 😔 too overused and overrepresented

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justice to our friends the enemies, i say

naive escarp Dec 13, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Make pokey playable

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then 10/10 mod

wind oriole Dec 13, 2024, 2:12 AM

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heady sand justice to our friends the enemies, i say

sayas the person with a boswer pfp

cosmic swan Dec 13, 2024, 2:22 AM

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heady sand justice to our friends the enemies, i say

Keep on Dreaming Then
As That's Where The Shyest Of Guys Came From 😊

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anyways the point was would "untraditional" enemies be able to be added 👽

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Like Uh, The Shivarian From odyssey

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You Race Them
The Are Enemies 😠

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 2:30 AM

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ah umm the erm,, uhhh...

wind oriole Dec 13, 2024, 2:30 AM

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edited

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 2:56 AM

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Your face is edited

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 2:56 AM

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heady sand Your face is edited

I apologize on his behalf. That was very rude

reef narwhal Dec 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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it's ok vic

foggy vault Dec 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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wind oriole sayas the person with a boswer pfp

Ermmm that’s not boswer that’s Mini Bowser

wind oriole Dec 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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im

naive escarp Dec 13, 2024, 3:06 AM

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smart

reef narwhal Dec 13, 2024, 3:19 AM

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whenever I'm sleeping

naive escarp Dec 13, 2024, 3:22 AM

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what

craggy iris Dec 13, 2024, 1:55 PM

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heady sand I'd like to limit vcmi's selection of characters to Mario enemies, so that won't...

can you add michael (the guy from maro)

heady sand Dec 13, 2024, 3:18 PM

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I prefer not to continue this conversation.

sinful escarp Dec 18, 2024, 2:13 PM

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hi vic

heady sand Dec 18, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Hello poobis

left tendon Dec 18, 2024, 7:45 PM

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heady sand Hello poobis

p => b
e (before the) s

craggy iris Dec 18, 2024, 8:46 PM

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i love drinking water but replace the "i love drinking water" with sex
||sex 🤯||

heady sand Dec 18, 2024, 9:16 PM

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Haha same

left tendon Dec 19, 2024, 11:46 AM

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craggy iris i love drinking water but replace the "i love drinking water" with sex ||sex 🤯|...

miyameo

but only consider the last letter
double it
put W in the middle

craggy iris Dec 19, 2024, 1:36 PM

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wow thats crazy i wonder what that is

heady sand Dec 23, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Too big

heady sand Dec 23, 2024, 7:37 PM

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those are already in the game as enemies

vagrant surge Dec 23, 2024, 7:38 PM

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heady sand Too big

cubbys mod bowser ice block flashbacks

gloomy socket Dec 23, 2024, 7:49 PM

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would cause confusion prob

heady sand Dec 23, 2024, 7:56 PM

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vagrant surge *cubbys mod bowser ice block flashbacks*

definitely rivals goombud's

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It's not

boreal ibex Dec 24, 2024, 10:03 PM

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i forgot what a goombud was

heady sand Dec 24, 2024, 10:05 PM

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You fool...

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1217270971610697829.gif?size=32

gloomy socket Dec 24, 2024, 10:14 PM

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goombud isnt in the game as an enemy unlike koopas and goombas

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oh waigt vic already answered nvm

boreal ibex Dec 24, 2024, 10:38 PM

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goombuds dont exist

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Clueless

foggy vault Dec 25, 2024, 12:30 AM

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boreal ibex goombuds dont exist

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

Tenor

naive escarp Dec 25, 2024, 1:05 AM

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b buttons dont exist

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Clueless

boreal ibex Dec 25, 2024, 2:39 AM

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wish i still had my classic controller to shut you up

left tendon Dec 25, 2024, 4:41 PM

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naive escarp b buttons dont exist

fuck I can't play my smb on my nes anymore :c

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

left tendon Dec 25, 2024, 6:16 PM

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they duplicated

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JUST LIKE IN NARUTO

left tendon Dec 25, 2024, 6:16 PM

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left tendon they duplicated

(also yes both lobbies are the same)

left tendon Dec 25, 2024, 6:38 PM

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they're multiplying...

heady sand Jan 1, 2025, 11:13 AM

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Happy 2 year anniversary to everyone's favourite[*] custom matchinator

-# [*] citation needed

sick sequoia Jan 1, 2025, 11:48 AM

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oh right

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happy 2 year anniversary vic mod

dense shadow Jan 1, 2025, 11:50 AM

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happy 2 year anniversary

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 8:36 PM

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oh wow i found an interesting challenge gamemode

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the idea is simple:

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(i swear it's fun for at least 1 minute)
so you just tryna get to the end of the race map as fast as possible

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only for race maps though. highly rng based but dunno

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gloomy socket Jan 16, 2025, 8:37 PM

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too bad random teleport is host only 😔

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but silly for a singleplayer challenge

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 8:37 PM

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ya

empty ore Jan 16, 2025, 8:44 PM

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mvlo but if you touch grass you get teleported

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 8:46 PM

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just like in dreams, you're about to touch that sweet grass but then you wake up in your bed at 7am ready to go to your job at the ???

empty ore Jan 16, 2025, 8:48 PM

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heady sand

btw it feels weird vic not dying at the last milisecond of the video

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 8:52 PM

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highly rng based
entirely, i'd argue.

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 8:52 PM

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gloomy socket too bad random teleport is host only 😔

wow what how lmao

gloomy socket Jan 16, 2025, 9:04 PM

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theres a lot of vcmi rules that are host only

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this was already a thing in .09 but ever since .10 its like way worser now somehow 😭

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:04 PM

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vagrant surge > highly rng based entirely, i'd argue.

sssssure, fine, i'll give you that

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:05 PM

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vagrant surge wow what how lmao

me trying to fix it but making it worse in the process (as i have already led to believe, I still haven't figured out RPCs and related features 😇)

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:08 PM

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heady sand me trying to fix it but making it worse in the process (as i have already led to...

1.8 enters the room

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:09 PM

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Unironically my salvation

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:10 PM

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GameRules struct my beloved

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Oh btw! I've been meaning to ask you even since we've had that discussion of how I could implement vcmi features using quantum
So all those conditions and actions like on got star, got coin, harm player, knock back, etc. are fine, but there are some conditions that are on [direction] pressed, and I can't think of how that could be done... Is there any super duper cool sort of feature that I can use for those??

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:11 PM

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heady sand Oh btw! I've been meaning to ask you even since we've had that discussion of how...

wym on direction pressed?

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like

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triggering it in code?

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or how youd represent that as a rule in the "rules" list

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:12 PM

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There are 5 conditions that are "Whenever a player presses right, or left, or up, or down, or run". I don't know how I would let the other players know that the user has done that

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Because it's not like we can "see" them doing that since it's not a tangible thing they, i.e. when collecting a coin. Rather something on their side

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:13 PM

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heady sand Because it's not like we can "see" them doing that since it's not a tangible thi...

inputs

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quantum syncs all inputs

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heck, quantum syncs ONLY inputs

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:13 PM

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And we've got access to them?

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:14 PM

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yeh

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:14 PM

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Oh wow, good to know good to know

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:14 PM

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public override void Update(Frame f, ref Filter filter, VersusStageData stage) {
    var mario = filter.MarioPlayer;
    var player = mario->PlayerRef;

    Input input = default;
    if (player.IsValid) {
        input = *f.GetPlayerInput(player);
    }
    
    ...
}

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so f.GetPlayerInput literally just gets the input for a given player

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 9:16 PM

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Sick stuff

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Well, I think that's another thing sorted (thanks)

vagrant surge Jan 16, 2025, 9:20 PM

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heady sand Well, I think that's another thing sorted (thanks)

yeah so most likely your mod wouldnt need to touch the mario player system at all, you can make a new system and listen for signals or loop over player inputs there, that way you won thave to deal with the 1000 other lines lmao

empty ore Jan 16, 2025, 10:02 PM

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heady sand

kinda funny

heady sand Jan 16, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Hoho

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 3:24 PM

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[Now Porting...] vic's Custom Match-inator

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Sure, why not. Time for a rewrite based on the upcoming new vanilla version
Looking forward to a hopefully(?!) cleaner and less buggy update...

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 3:31 PM

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heady sand Sure, why not. Time for a rewrite based on the upcoming new vanilla version Loo...

new vanilla version rewrite
1.8 port? 👀??

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 3:49 PM

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Yup...

spare swift Jan 30, 2025, 4:06 PM

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i’ll pray for you

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:10 PM

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T-thanks

naive escarp Jan 30, 2025, 4:22 PM

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Does that mean

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it is close to release

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:23 PM

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Not really, it means that I just started working on the update

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And if you mean vanilla, I got no idea, I just kinda winged it

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 4:27 PM

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heady sand Yup...

let me know how it goes lol

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you probably WILL have questions

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:29 PM

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Oh for sure. For now I'll focus on surface stuff like I mentioned, basically some UI and audio reimplementations. Later I can start getting into the weeds bit by bit, i.e. adding Stars and Coins for Item toggles, etc

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 4:47 PM

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heady sand Oh for sure. For now I'll focus on surface stuff like I mentioned, basically som...

I just want to see your reaction to working with quantum tbh haha

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:48 PM

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Oh boy lmao
Yeah ok I'll post updates. Sounds fun... (Clueless)

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 4:53 PM

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heady sand Oh boy lmao Yeah ok I'll post updates. Sounds fun... (Clueless)

you have a programming background; i think you can handle it no problem

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theres a bit of a learning curve but you have the entire game to base it on

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main systems youll probably be editing are GameLogicSystem.cs (think GameManager) and MarioPlayerSystem.cs (think PlayerController)

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:56 PM

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Got it. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. It'll just feel like the first time I modded 1.7 for a few days and after that I'll get used to it more smoothly

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

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heady sand Got it. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. It'll just feel like the first time I modded...

probably even easier

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there was a lot of technical debt i was able to prune out when making the migration haha

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 4:59 PM

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Hmmm...

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That's good news

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 4:59 PM

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consistent naming for one

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MarioPlayerSystem has a MarioPlayerAnimator.cs (basically the case for all objects)

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BigStar / Starman

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"Lobby" -> "Room"

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"FrozenCube" -> "IceBlock"

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the UI has a proper stack-based paging system with proper callbacks rather than having to enable/disable pages and having everything in the MainMenuManager

heady sand Jan 30, 2025, 5:17 PM

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vagrant surge the UI has a proper stack-based paging system with proper callbacks rather than ...

Ooh yep, I stumbled upon that yesterday and it's a very welcomed change. Now every submenu shares the same back button and header objects, so it's easy to style and keep track of

dense shadow Jan 30, 2025, 5:17 PM

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gl vic

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 5:53 PM

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heady sand Ooh yep, I stumbled upon that yesterday and it's a very welcomed change. Now eve...

amazing what 2.25 years of dev time can do to a game......

gloomy socket Jan 30, 2025, 5:53 PM

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the net code was worth the wait….

cosmic swan Jan 30, 2025, 6:07 PM

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vagrant surge main systems youll probably be editing are `GameLogicSystem.cs` (think GameManag...

Good To know...

cosmic swan Jan 30, 2025, 6:08 PM

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vagrant surge the UI has a proper stack-based paging system with proper callbacks rather than ...

Guessing That's Why options Can be Shown in game Now

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 6:08 PM

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thats entirely separate actually lol

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the new options menu existed in builds with the old ui

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 6:11 PM

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cosmic swan Good To know...

it's not a gamemanager in the sense that it's where all the variables are held

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its moreso a gamemanager in the fact that it's where the logic is for switching game states + processing lobby commands (change character/rules/update ping/etc)

cosmic swan Jan 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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vagrant surge its moreso a gamemanager in the fact that it's where the logic is for switching ...

hmmmm Seems Like It's Gonna Be Tricky To Add New "Global" Code...
So how Does Star Spawning Work Then 🤔

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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BigStarSystem

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 6:14 PM

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cosmic swan hmmmm Seems Like It's Gonna Be Tricky To Add New "Global" Code... So how Does St...

Nope. It's even easier to add global code

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Put it in the "Update" function of a new system and add it to the system setup so it gets created

cosmic swan Jan 30, 2025, 6:15 PM

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marking that for later

vagrant surge Jan 30, 2025, 6:15 PM

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moving to #mvl-development-and-modding

heady sand Feb 3, 2025, 11:40 PM

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progress is progressing progressively
vcmi ui and midi music is almost fully back

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happy to be back to this state. i think now it's finally time to get into the custom properties

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 12:45 AM

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heady sand happy to be back to this state. i think now it's finally time to get into the cu...

it ' s a draw

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... theres no good way to bold a single quote.

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 12:58 AM

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(Hi I'm a fellow Mario Paint Cursor Dude)
This only seems to happen in this vcmi if I click once and hold it switches to luigi but when I release it goes back to Mario, you can do funneh autoclicker thingy tho
WARNING VOLUME WARNING WARNING

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also vcmi leak please dont sue me today

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:01 AM

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junior tiger (Hi I'm a fellow Mario Paint Cursor Dude) This only seems to happen in this vcmi...

I HAVE THAT BUG IN VANILLA TOO GRRRRRRRrrrumble

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:01 AM

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I only have it in this vcmi commit

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:01 AM

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so it's 100% not my fault (maybe it's my mouse? (and yours?)) though I'm not too worried since i'll be changing around that toggle when adding the rest of the characters

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:03 AM

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isaac_shrug

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:04 AM

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thanks for trying out the thing though. i hope the ui is vcmi and satisfying enough

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:04 AM

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I really like the blur tbh

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like this

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:04 AM

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the blur's not mine, it's already in vanilla. what i did add though is the drop shadow behind the main menu panel

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:04 AM

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-# you should give me bulletin board perms trust Troll

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:05 AM

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junior tiger -# you should give me bulletin board perms trust <:Troll:1006384743425790043>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1329159242610901075.webp?size=48&name=shuhs

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:05 AM

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heady sand the blur's not mine, it's already in vanilla. what i did add though is the drop ...

Isn't the blur set up differently tho?

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hold on lemme compare this

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Wow thanks vic! Works like a charm

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Okay must have gotten it confused, the ui was just bigger in vanilla mb

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:40 AM

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heady sand thanks for trying out the thing though. i hope the ui is vcmi and satisfying eno...

erm...

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:40 AM

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junior tiger Okay must have gotten it confused, the ui was just bigger in vanilla mb

and drop shadow

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:41 AM

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Already mentioned!!! Banned

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:56 AM

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vagrant surge erm...

it's fine... we can all pretend that didn't happen......

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:56 AM

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heady sand it's fine... we can all pretend that didn't happen......

make the red maskable smh

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:56 AM

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it aint' a mask, it's just the header being a tiled sprite 😬

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:56 AM

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nol i mean

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oh

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hmm.

gloomy socket Feb 4, 2025, 1:57 AM

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vic do you liek the (Now Loading...)

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:57 AM

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i do like it. i also like the Hold On... and the Just a Sec...

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:58 AM

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junior tiger I really like the blur tbh

tbh i kinda like the attached header ...

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 1:59 AM

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Watch ipod copy this to vanilla like rn

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:59 AM

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i mean

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:59 AM

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vagrant surge tbh i kinda like the attached header ...

i just made it that way to keep it a tad more similar to the current vcmi version

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 1:59 AM

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idk and the slight white overlay...

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drop shadow...

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pure black bg

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 1:59 AM

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by all means, i really like the 1.8 smash bros-style detached header

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:00 AM

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hmmmm

gloomy socket Feb 4, 2025, 2:00 AM

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vagrant surge erm...

chainsaw 👽

empty ore Feb 4, 2025, 2:01 AM

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just remove the red bg of the "back" button 🧠

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:01 AM

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(more border)

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heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 2:02 AM

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honestly i think the bricks bg only makes sense if the panel is opaque. if you're going to make it transparent, keep it a flat colour to avoid visual clutter (we already have the stage background as a sprite, it would clash with the bricks)

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:02 AM

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heady sand honestly i think the bricks bg only makes sense if the panel is opaque. if you'r...

yeah thats what i was thinking

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 2:02 AM

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and my reasoning for the drop shadow is that it helps create separation (Material UI anyone)?

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it was more helpful in v17 where there wasn't a blur and the separation was even more necessary, but kept it for consistency

gloomy socket Feb 4, 2025, 2:03 AM

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heady sand honestly i think the bricks bg only makes sense if the panel is opaque. if you'r...

ye simple/pale patterns might be better off if it transparent

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 2:03 AM

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vagrant surge

also damn i do like the diff widths

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:03 AM

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w/ slight white tint

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 2:04 AM

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it has more breathing room

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 2:05 AM

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heady sand it has more breathing room

Thank God! I was seriouslly struggling to breath!

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:06 AM

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junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 2:06 AM

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vagrant surge

~~How much crypto have you earned so far?~~

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 2:06 AM

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1

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one crypto

junior tiger Feb 4, 2025, 2:06 AM

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Uno crypto?

naive escarp Feb 4, 2025, 2:29 AM

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what even is crypto

heady sand Feb 4, 2025, 3:15 PM

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Idea...

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Hopefully it's possible to swap teams mid-match

vagrant surge Feb 4, 2025, 3:22 PM

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heady sand Hopefully it's possible to swap teams mid-match

should be; but it might break the "get user color" functions

heady sand Feb 8, 2025, 3:14 PM

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I've been thinking and planning on going all in with the custom game modes mechanic
I mean, it's the main selling point of the mod so it needs some care
Here's the deal, currently you can only create conditions and actions... Very 1-dimensional and limited. I'd like to introduce the idea of Targets, where only the chosen player or players get affected by the rule. On the other hand, there can be a "constraint" parameter for the rule, which will stop the rule from having effect under certain situations (i.e., the person has a power up, or the timer is below X minutes)
I think with enough work this can become a powerful tool for vcmi players... As long as they're willing to put in the time to create Goode stuff w it lol

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At this point, Teams can serve as specialized targets for certain rules and becomes a very malleable property of each player

cosmic swan Feb 8, 2025, 6:17 PM

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vic, if ipod doesn't add a way to lock players from changing teams & set teams oneself, You Should Add it Here Like I've Done!
There Will Always Be "That Guy"...

heady sand Feb 8, 2025, 6:19 PM

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Splendid idea

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That would help for, say, if the host wants someone to seek but they keep trolling and changing teams

junior tiger Feb 8, 2025, 6:26 PM

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cosmic swan vic, if ipod doesn't add a way to lock players from changing teams & set teams o...

Gabriel

wise urchin Feb 8, 2025, 11:34 PM

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hey

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did u call me?

heady sand Feb 8, 2025, 11:40 PM

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no, i didn't

wise urchin Feb 9, 2025, 12:58 AM

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im talking to lust

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not you

heady sand Feb 9, 2025, 1:09 AM

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ok

heady sand Feb 9, 2025, 2:18 AM

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i have successfully managed to add a custom rule to 1.8 vcmi :) yay

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esto va sobre ruedas vamos

boreal ibex Feb 9, 2025, 2:18 AM

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vic a punto de morirse por meter su segunda regla:

vagrant surge Feb 9, 2025, 6:55 AM

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heady sand i have successfully managed to add a custom rule to 1.8 vcmi :) yay

:D

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How you liking the quantum way of doing things ?

cosmic swan Feb 9, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Personally I've Yet To Figure out key Elements...
Such As Adding A New Variable To Mario And Other Stuff...

heady sand Feb 9, 2025, 11:44 AM

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vagrant surge How you liking the quantum way of doing things ?

It's very nice overall
While it's true that there are more places where code can be (see #mvl-development-and-modding message 👉👈), there's so much less manual labour you gotta do. Like, I only had to add the button, and the value to the enum, and that's it?!?! Then I had access to it from anywhere thanks to f.Global

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Thumbs up

junior tiger Feb 9, 2025, 11:44 AM

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Hi vic

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Mornin

heady sand Feb 9, 2025, 11:44 AM

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Hello morning lust

wise urchin Feb 9, 2025, 3:47 PM

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@gloomy socket why sobbing

vagrant surge Feb 9, 2025, 6:05 PM

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cosmic swan Personally I've Yet To Figure out key Elements... Such As Adding A New Variable ...

Add it to MarioPlayer.qtn

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That's literally it

cosmic swan Feb 9, 2025, 7:07 PM

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vagrant surge Add it to MarioPlayer.qtn

ohhh
tbh I Didn't Expect That To Be Openable, Thought It Was Some Other Shenanigan
Good To Know

heady sand Feb 9, 2025, 7:15 PM

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cosmic swan ohhh tbh I Didn't Expect That To Be Openable, Thought It Was Some Other Shenanig...

While on the topic of openable stuff, make sure to not edit files that have "CodeGen" in their names even though they look openable bc your changes won't be taken into account...

naive escarp Feb 10, 2025, 3:30 AM

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I went on preset gamemodes and clicked reset, and then the specials thing got glitched

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it was lagging a lot also

heady sand Feb 10, 2025, 3:32 AM

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that's what got the lobby glitched, huh

gloomy socket Feb 10, 2025, 3:47 AM

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17.0.12 is gonna be real !?!?

empty ore Feb 10, 2025, 3:56 AM

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VICS MOD 2 better say...

gloomy socket Feb 10, 2025, 3:56 AM

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1.8% vcmi

heady sand Feb 10, 2025, 4:01 AM

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I seriously have to lock in and hurry up with the porting grumble grumble

vagrant surge Feb 10, 2025, 4:38 AM

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heady sand I seriously have to lock in and hurry up with the porting grumble grumble

porting to an unfinished update yeah.

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trolled

boreal ibex Feb 10, 2025, 4:46 AM

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we could be getting vcmi 1.8 day one!

heady sand Feb 10, 2025, 12:20 PM

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That would be so splendid

boreal ibex Feb 10, 2025, 12:37 PM

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you already got the music down, and if ipod doesnt change many stuff between now and the actual release, you could get the rules down in a bit

coral mica Feb 11, 2025, 9:42 PM

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nsmb versus vics custom match-inator for win32

sick sequoia Feb 11, 2025, 9:44 PM

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coral mica nsmb versus vics custom match-inator for win32

Uhm, what about it?

coral mica Feb 11, 2025, 9:46 PM

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sick sequoia Uhm, what about it?

No, I'm telling him to make a win32 version

gloomy socket Feb 11, 2025, 9:48 PM

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isnt there already?

heady sand Feb 11, 2025, 9:50 PM

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i'm afraid there's not

coral mica Feb 11, 2025, 9:51 PM

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alright

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I'm just trying to find a mod that has it for win32

cosmic swan Feb 12, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Vic What if You Have OnEnd Rules For Starman & Mega...
Imagine A Game Where You Must Chain Starman For Some objective 🤔

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 11:44 AM

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Interesanting

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Noted

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 3:43 PM

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(draft) attempting to cram all necessary buttons into the new ui. these would open up dialogs with even more stuff

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maybe i'll need to make a sacrifice and move the chat to the "Profile" column to leave more space in the Room one

spare swift Feb 12, 2025, 3:52 PM

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cramming it so that the map icon isn’t needed is smart

gloomy socket Feb 12, 2025, 3:53 PM

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heady sand (draft) attempting to cram all necessary buttons into the new ui. these would op...

what if u added uhhhh

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i forgot how u call it but basically these buttons that hide options in a drop down so there’s less stuff in it

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like basically a button that can hide the rules, the lobby settings, etc

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 3:58 PM

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spare swift cramming it so that the map icon isn’t needed is smart

i figured it was worth it. also, since i'm going to have so many maps, i can't have an icon for every single one of them. i'll simply remove the arrows from the map selection and make a dialog pop up upon clicking on it for easier selection, like in the current ver. of vcmi

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also here's sort of a thing to show how many rules are currently active?

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 4:17 PM

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unfortunately, yes. you will have to click a button to see the list of all rules, instead of them being visible on the main ui 😔

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but what are you going to do...

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i could just put a panel with the list in a scrolly container next to the normal rules but clutterrrrrr

spare swift Feb 12, 2025, 4:43 PM

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just put all the buttons scattered around the menu trust

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find luigi but with the rules

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 4:51 PM

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lmao

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and they just move around

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 5:58 PM

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urk. more stuff.

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(the levels on the right aren't what will actually be in the game i just randomized their names)

gloomy socket Feb 12, 2025, 6:08 PM

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the right 🥹…..?

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 6:08 PM

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(the races/campaign ones)

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i just put some gibberish bc i didn't remember what actually used to be there, is what i mean

gloomy socket Feb 12, 2025, 6:09 PM

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oh I thought u mistook the right/left I thought u were meaning the levels on the left lmaoo

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 6:10 PM

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oh you're right, i did forget about autumn, rock pit, and pipes 2

gloomy socket Feb 12, 2025, 6:10 PM

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Snow
Ice

cosmic swan Feb 12, 2025, 6:48 PM

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gloomy socket **Snow** **Ice**

You Forgot Froesty

boreal ibex Feb 12, 2025, 7:32 PM

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this guy killed desert off

cosmic swan Feb 12, 2025, 7:40 PM

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🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 Poor Pipes Too... 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

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🥺🥺🥺

wise urchin Feb 12, 2025, 7:47 PM

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heady sand urk. more stuff.

wheres mapno 4 map?

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Maeg drive

craggy iris Feb 12, 2025, 9:20 PM

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heady sand oh you're right, i did forget about autumn, rock pit, and pipes 2

reminder of that exactly named "random underground level with pipes" that i made lo

boreal ibex Feb 12, 2025, 9:21 PM

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i ngl want more specific gamemode-made maps

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maps that are made to work for hide and seek specifically would go hard

craggy iris Feb 12, 2025, 9:40 PM

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i might be able to make one atleast as concept for both hide and seek and star chaser

gloomy socket Feb 12, 2025, 10:08 PM

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and freeze tag !!!

heady sand Feb 12, 2025, 10:14 PM

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boreal ibex i ngl want more specific gamemode-made maps

I'd like more of those too

wise urchin Feb 13, 2025, 12:23 AM

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heady sand Maeg drive

you mean mega drive

boreal ibex Feb 13, 2025, 12:23 AM

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no he meant megatron

heady sand Feb 13, 2025, 12:51 AM

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i know what i meant

hoary vessel Feb 13, 2025, 1:52 AM

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@heady sand

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hoary vessel Feb 13, 2025, 2:09 AM

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nvm

heady sand Feb 14, 2025, 6:38 PM

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been spending my days going back and forth and back and forth between a bunch of the scripts and the Quantum docs and I think I reached right about here in the graph lol, this will be done in no time (don't mark my words)

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maybe i'll have something to show sooner rather than later

heady sand Feb 14, 2025, 6:49 PM

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vagrant surge yeah so most likely your mod wouldnt need to touch the mario player system at al...

btw if i did this using signals,
would it be something like creating events on the MarioPlayer, one for each input required, and then emitting them from the system? (so later the "matchinator" script can subscribe to them?)

vagrant surge Feb 15, 2025, 1:28 AM

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heady sand btw if i did this using signals, would it be something like creating events on t...

yup

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so you just need to add your hooks into the marioplayer system and then you can have the logic elsewhere

vagrant surge Feb 15, 2025, 1:32 AM

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heady sand been spending my days going back and forth and back and forth between a bunch of...

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

Tenor

plain terrace Feb 16, 2025, 4:52 PM

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dude i swear we need a web version of this

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https://tenor.com/view/masterpiece-its-a-masterpiece-art-beautiful-its-art-gif-2895190025131852749

Tenor

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 4:53 PM

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there already is tho?

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or am I wrong again 👽

junior tiger Feb 16, 2025, 4:54 PM

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There literally is

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heady sand Feb 16, 2025, 5:46 PM

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plain terrace dude i swear we need a web version of this

There's been one for years. Go to https://vlco-o.itch.io/vics-custom-match-inator

boreal ibex Feb 16, 2025, 5:47 PM

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keeping this for safety

📎 coindeathmatch.json

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 6:51 PM

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hey I already made coin deathmatch… (idek what this one is like I can’t read atm lmao)

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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insta lying face react him now

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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erm acshually you were the one who kept getting angry at my coin deathmatch hehehehaw

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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it sucks

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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then I didn’t lie gg

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proved by the accuser

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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what the FUCK are you talking about

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that wasnt the point...

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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exactly

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ur too stupid to understand 🔥

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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gloomy socket exactly

unxactly

junior tiger Feb 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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oh god

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the memories

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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gloomy socket ur too stupid to understand 🔥

i would say the same thing to you

junior tiger Feb 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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The last time speifically

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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yeah thats why i dont like it

boreal ibex Feb 16, 2025, 7:17 PM

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gloomy socket hey I already made coin deathmatch… (idek what this one is like I can’t read atm...

yours surely sucks

heady sand Feb 16, 2025, 7:18 PM

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easy now, there are many variants of coin/hp deathmatch

boreal ibex Feb 16, 2025, 7:20 PM

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but i want to kill frosty he owns me 2 dolla

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🥺 ...

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 7:20 PM

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owns !?!?

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everyone who plays vcmi owes me 1 dolla cause I made the hide n seek ruleset 🧠
and they owe vic 5 dolla for making it possible

cosmic swan Feb 16, 2025, 7:21 PM

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I Played Under Frosty's Credit Card So

boreal ibex Feb 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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gloomy socket owns !?!?

sorry my n key was eaten by turnip

gloomy socket Feb 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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turip

boreal ibex Feb 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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ip

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ip

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ip

empty ore Feb 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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everyone who plays vcmi owes me 60 dollar cause i made the dont challenge ruleset 🧠

#🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

choose vcmi's fate

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