🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[gloomy socket]

turnip you need som balancing too....

your abilities are way too broken......

[cosmic swan]

Nah It's Good. Steller Spleef is My favorite Thang

[gloomy socket]

oop

[cosmic swan]

Working on It

[reef narwhal]

what if

in alternate universe

[cosmic swan]

Brocken in More Ways Than 1...

[reef narwhal]

frosty was literally named frosty in real life as his legal name

and made a mod called melted

and you had to pay for it

with robux

and the game was worse than Atari

I'm cooking trust me

[cosmic swan]

what

That's Not Cooking Silly,

[reef narwhal]

hey Vic, what if you were the president of America?

[heady sand]

I don't want to be the president of america

[supple wraith]

why not

[reef narwhal]

fair

[cosmic swan]

But What If he WAS Anyways

[fast spindle]

Please be the president of america so you do a speech and see if your hand movements win mario party

[gloomy socket]

so true

[heady sand]

What if I was presidente of Europe and fight against obamna in mario part

With hand

[fast spindle]

Sure

[reef narwhal]

what if vic was the new queen Elizabeth

[heady sand]

What if I was me

[gloomy socket]

so true

let vic be himself...

[cosmic swan]

What If Vic Was The 2nd Man To Land on The Moon

[sick sequoia]

what if vic was president of south pole and north pole

[supple wraith]

what if vic...

owns this server

[sick sequoia]

what if vic owns the entire internet

am i right vic?

[reef narwhal]

what if vic was Squidward

[foggy vault]

From SpongeBob?

That would be so cool

[gloomy socket]

vic what is your opinion on this

[reef narwhal]

can't forget the Vic heart attack ruleset

8pm !?

I still haven't ate anything!?

[sick sequoia]

?

[heady sand]

hi hello guys ok so i've got a survey
please listen to these two samples of a song, preferably using high quality headphones (not something like your phone's speaker)
the export quality/format is very similar, but the rendering method is different
which one do you prefer?! aka which one sounds "better" to you? (if you don't hear any difference, please don't choose any option thanks

again, this isn't necessarily about quality. it's simply the feel of the instruments

[cosmic swan]

Oh Ye My Favorite Mod I Play it So Much!

[heady sand]

11 minutes
Not a true fan

[reef narwhal]

vic what is your truest secret

[cosmic swan]

(Why Would He Tell You)

[reef narwhal]

I'm Vic's butler

trust me

[supple wraith]

you sure?

[reef narwhal]

I literally give Vic his breakfast, dinner, and make his bed

[supple wraith]

what else

[cosmic swan]

That's Sweet And All, But Did He Tell You To...

[reef narwhal]

who knows

[gloomy socket]

that actually hit hard for whatever reason

[reef narwhal]

Vic how many fans other than me do you have?

[heady sand]

I don kno

I'm not popular nor famous so

[gloomy socket]

me!!!!!

[reef narwhal]

I'm Vic's number one fan!

[gloomy socket]

vic is dis u

[sick sequoia]

i think thats not him

because vic has skills, that guy is not

[gloomy socket]

way to go vic!!!!!

[supple wraith]

@heady sand is this true

[heady sand]

no, i never capitalize my names
remember that!!

[sick sequoia]

THEN I WON

GG

[gloomy socket]

(won what?)

[sick sequoia]

i just said that wasnt vic

[sick sequoia]

beep

[gloomy socket]

a

[supple wraith]

sad :(

[empty ore]

hai vic

[reef narwhal]

I was too tempted to draw myself in a maid outfit in vics house. I had to resist the urge

you guys were spared from gold

hi kitty turnip!

[cosmic swan]

Meowdy

[heady sand]

you can always draw me in vic's house instead

[dusk oasis]

I. am back.

With a new profile picture.

..and now im dead

[cosmic swan]

What 😭

[empty ore]

is that good or bad

[cosmic swan]

Did Anyone Notice/Point Out That This Thread has More Than 20000 Messages

[cosmic swan]

Meowdy @heady sand
Did You Ever Happen To Fix Those Doors Of Yours? (IDK If Ya Have)

[heady sand]

I was almost done, the issue is that one's player animation didn't play on the other players
Although since stuff like timing, the teleporting and the door animation (it wasn't easy to have it look "correct") are actually working, I invite you to get inspiration from my implementation and maybe attempt to fix what's not working? I'll be happy to see your solution if you get it to work lol, mutual contribution and stuff

[reef narwhal]

hi vic!!

it's 12am!?

[heady sand]

No, it's not

Hello zomble

[gloomy socket]

he already gotr them to work lol (kinda)

[heady sand]

O

Well I mean I got them kinda working too lmao, just the animation of the player is wrong sometimes...

I'll reimplement it from scratch in vcmi 18 anyway 🤷‍♂️

[reef narwhal]

hi vic

has the shark zombie maps ever made you shed one tear

(@cosmic swan reference)

[reef narwhal]

@gloomy socket can we play vcmi today?

all the lobbies today in mvlo suck

[gloomy socket]

maybe but i can’t play en

rn

ask blucor and turnip

they wanted to join

[reef narwhal]

aw

@empty ore @cosmic swan let's Vic

[cosmic swan]

I Fell-

Sure

[reef narwhal]

I'm in USA

[empty ore]

ok

do lfg

[reef narwhal]

nah

[empty ore]

yah

[heady sand]

No

[reef narwhal]

aw

Vic join us in your mod

pwease!

[heady sand]

What rules you playing

[empty ore]

i had to go sorry lol

[reef narwhal]

the coin tank

[heady sand]

vic's Custom Match-inator

[cosmic swan]

oh my goodness a new name folks

[heady sand]

Ugh why does discord have to be so loud

[reef narwhal]

wait why did you change the name Vic!?

[supple wraith]

probably finished

[reef narwhal]

absolutely not

[gloomy socket]

maybe he won’t be working on it rn

cause he already stated he’s busy irl so

[heady sand]

That is correct
I'm refocusing, I was a bit too rushed in my decision making

Yawn 🛌

[supple wraith]

are you sleeping in the nether

[heady sand]

No just my bedroom

[supple wraith]

because i slept once in the nether

and it hurt alot

from the fucking explosion it caused to my nether house

[gloomy socket]

(rhyme..?)

[supple wraith]

wait i didnt know it was a rhyme lol

[empty ore]

hey @heady sand can i add mapno 4 to battle r?

[foggy vault]

approved from me btw

[heady sand]

Yeah sure

[gloomy socket]

hi vic!!!! (it’s been a while since the last hi vic….)

[reef narwhal]

lick vic

[foggy vault]

Don’t do it in front of these vics

[reef narwhal]

woah

[foggy vault]

vic prison

sentenced to marketable Salamence plushie in the Nintendo Store at NYC Times Square

I am not in this store this is an old ass screenshot

[reef narwhal]

evicting plan, we tick Vic to trick Vic to licking a kick (shoe) @gloomy socket

ic ick

[foggy vault]

Where’s that damn Vic gif

What if I post something totally unrelated here

I know!

A rough sketch of a commission I ordered!

The perfect crime

Soon this mod will be mine!

And I will add ALL of the Mario enemies!

Obscure, spin-offs, fan made, you name it!

[gloomy socket]

keep dreaming

[reef narwhal]

December 12:05am Thursday 1989

[heady sand]

Pokémon plushies for sale

[foggy vault]

hi Vic

[heady sand]

Hello ivy

[reef narwhal]

hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello uh, um...

Who are you

[reef narwhal]

zomblebobble

hi vic

I'm your second biggest fan

not including your fan that blows air

[heady sand]

Ok hello zomble

[empty ore]

hai vic

[wind oriole]

hi vic

[sick sequoia]

hi vid

[heady sand]

Hello blucor hello Lee hello mariogameryt

[gloomy socket]

hi vic!!

[gloomy socket]

hi again vic!!!!!!!!!

[heady sand]

Hello frosty and again cake

[wind oriole]

Vic will you play lee mod when it comes out (2076)

[sick sequoia]

pfft youre not a developer

hai vip

[sick sequoia]

and btw, mvlo is gonna die at 2050

before gta 8 comes out

[wind oriole]

MASSIVE hater energy

[sick sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1076199506527391794.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[heady sand]

Prolly

[sick sequoia]

donut

[gloomy socket]

bro does NOT know 😭🙏

[gloomy socket]

.9 memories....

[reef narwhal]

hey @heady sand I triple dog dare you to make this 3D 😇

[heady sand]

first off that's an amazing drawing

secondly
don't you dare me with a good time (i actually suck at environmenting but this could be great practice...)

thanks

[gloomy socket]

vic do u still have the .ogg file for the .9 overworld menu music

its so banger

[heady sand]

yup. lemme grab it for you

here you go

[gloomy socket]

tyyy

why was the second one .wav lol

[heady sand]

because ogg would crackle and pop when played back in the game

don't ask why, for it is a mystery

[gloomy socket]

o

[heady sand]

note how the second one has an extra channel in v10 that was not present in v9
fun

i love playing with these midis

[gloomy socket]

this is kidna a stupid idea but vic ithink u should make 2 new rules for star/coin collecting

cause like, by got star/coin it means whenever u get one

but by colelcting is when udirectly go for one and collect it

tho it kinda overshadowed by the got star/coin but yea

[heady sand]

i believe the game doesn't differentiate between someone collecting a coin and coins given to someone by other means

they use the same code, so it's not trivial to separate the different scenarios in multiple rules

plus imo that much fine control over the rules isn't necessary nor beneficial

[gloomy socket]

o i see

fair enough

[gloomy socket]

spent like an hour trying to beat this @small vale :sobbb

[small vale]

it sucked

[sick sequoia]

what if clear conditions was in vic mod

[gloomy socket]

ooooo

that would be good actually

i wish we had a champions road like race level

[sick sequoia]

terminal velocity 👽

[small vale]

if 2 people wanna try this out then this is the ruleset + the conditions for the game (toggling player collisions is ok if a spinner is needed) and it gives more emphasis on duo-coop rulesets

2 players is the recommended amount for this since any more than 2 would probably make things really hard lmao

also i recommend that you play as mario/luigi for accurate hitboxes (idk if all the characters have the same hitboxes or have different hitboxes)

[small vale]

and here's a single player version of the ruleset + the main settings for the lobby

[cosmic swan]

meowdy vic

[gloomy socket]

this is probably a stupid idea but what if there was a rule for instantiating text

this is super useless but imagine something like, u stomp someone and it says ''GOOD!'' or you die and it says ''TOO BAD!''

stuff like that

problem is moderating tho

[heady sand]

yeah i guess we could have emotes with text in them

[naive escarp]

I'll listen

[heady sand]

Please do

[naive escarp]

dang i just forgot about that

hold on a sec

Okay this is a bit confusing for me

@heady sand The drums in dl-center2 sounds better and more lively than center1, but the melody instruments sounds better in center1 than center2
So either combine these 2 or just use center1 if you wanna make this easier.

I used Bluetooth Headphones btw

[gloomy socket]

i was just casually scrolling thru old messages lol

[heady sand]

Don't you dare actually implement it

[gloomy socket]

(i wont)

atleast not with a color wheel and instead with preset colors

[supple wraith]

i will, unless if i had a mod

[empty ore]

vic what do u plan to do now with the one dot eight port

since ipod is

uh

yk

[heady sand]

i'll just keep merging the commits he makes

[empty ore]

o alr

soo for now theres no problems w that

or yes?...

[heady sand]

nah no issue

[naive escarp]

You can automatically merge your mod with 1.8?

thats nice

[heady sand]

anyone can do it, it's all on github after all. just needs some elbow grease ig

err I mean, it's not fully automatic, some conflicts you'd have to solve

but anyway

[gloomy socket]

vic what do u think of 1.7.1.1

[naive escarp]

it friggin sucks!
its 6 pixels inaccurate!

Hi Frosty

[heady sand]

i love the more accurate particles
i didn't know i wanted them until i saw them yesterday

[naive escarp]

I agree, they look fancy

[gloomy socket]

moment

[naive escarp]

For a second i thought this was Frosted mod

until i readed the thread's name again

[sick sequoia]

that action target is a good idea

[tulip knoll]

hello vic

[reef narwhal]

hi hi vic

[sick sequoia]

-# hi hi hi vic

[naive escarp]

-# Turkey

[sick sequoia]

twerking chicken

[spare swift]

twerky

[gloomy socket]

ey*

[heady sand]

Turkey sandwich

[cosmic swan]

Turkey W

🦃

[craggy iris]

🇹🇷

[heady sand]

choose vcmi's fate

1 - Only use emotes in-match (leave it how it already behaves in the current version)
2 - Use preset reactions & text in-match (like in SMM2 or Mario Party Superstars)
3 - Free chat in-match, only spectators
4 - Free chat in-match, both alive players and spectators

thank you for voting

[naive escarp]

How about a chat button

For quick chatting

in game

press enter to open, enter again so send it

Would be a fast way to do it

(im talking about 4 btw)

[heady sand]

yes, that's how it'd work in opt. 4

[heady sand]

I tihnk it would be funny to add superstars' mario party stickers in vcmi because look at them

[reef narwhal]

hi vic

[snow oriole]

preset reactions would be so funny

but free chat is better

[naive escarp]

yep

[gloomy socket]

or maybe do both like foxy said...

obv if u can or want to lol

[gloomy socket]

YES

[gloomy socket]

HIT

MISS

hi lee

!

[wind oriole]

hii

[wind oriole]

yuh

[wind oriole]

yuh X2

[heady sand]

choose vcmi's fate

For your consideration: a special effect that can make powerups, coins and stars...
1 - freezable (then thrown around like enemies)
2 - freezable and killable (i.e. with a fire flower, blue shell slide, etc.)

Thanks for your collective opinion

[naive escarp]

Imagine freezing, throwing and killing Ice Flower in the poison lmao

[heady sand]

Yes! That's the idea. Just wanted to know if it makes sense to also "kill" them directly via some extra means (opt. 2), or if that would become annoying

[naive escarp]

I would choose 1, because
If someone has fire flower and "Sprint Shoots Fireball" enabled, they can accidentally kill the powerup they're going to grab

So might be annoying

[gloomy socket]

I was thinking they could just both be separate options but I can see why vic made them one

[junior tiger]

the fate.

Also hi guys

[heady sand]

no one voting opt. 2 is kind of a woozy

[gloomy socket]

hi chat!!!!!!!!

[heady sand]

Hello frosty

[gloomy socket]

i mean it could be like i said!!!

[junior tiger]

Less gooooo guys

[heady sand]

Do you have something to show us...

[gloomy socket]

but,,, possible filler,,,,,

[junior tiger]

timgourk timgourk

[gloomy socket]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hol up

[heady sand]

Holding

[gloomy socket]

yea look get sparkle banged!

[heady sand]

Crazy

What if: In sync with the music

[junior tiger]

No Looping Music triggers me here mate grrrrrr

[gloomy socket]

(how do i calculate the start and end loop ticks)

[sick sequoia]

hi vic vic hi vic

[gloomy socket]

i think not too doable due to the tempo

maybe i could try delaying it a lil bit more

[heady sand]

Oh if it's a midi I just did it with whatever midi editor that shows you the ticks lol

[gloomy socket]

cause in the og it changes every second

[heady sand]

Reply to the loop thing

[gloomy socket]

oh

[heady sand]

And then manually figuring it out

I could've added that feature to p3synth but 🥱 🛌

[heady sand]

dude i found a library that does midi playback on more devices other than windows

finally i'm so so happy

https://github.com/homy-game-studio/hgs-unity-tone

midi in vcmi is here to stay, i can now hear music in linux urg

[junior tiger]

Android aswell!

I hope..?

[heady sand]

currently testing

[heady sand]

android test success :)

it even has midi event callbacks 😘 😘 😘 enemies jumping to bahs and bah related rules are back 🤳 🤳 🍹

[heady sand]

webgl test failure :( still ain't working

will try more stuff another time

still though, this is a huge win

[junior tiger]

WE ARE SO BARRACK

[junior tiger]

Dont website usually use uhh midi players via permission?

Or maybe try a different browsa?

[gloomy socket]

WWWWWW

zamnnn congrats

[vagrant surge]

ripppp

i think webgl doesnt have audio filter read callbacks

which lets you literally like just fill a float array with sound samples

most likely used by that (and all other) midi things

same reason why -f versions of the music are used in the base game: filters dont work on webgl

[heady sand]

Really now

[heady sand]

Yup, that's it then. This add-on works w raw samples it generates via a script that are pushed to an audio source, so I see why it wouldn't work
That's a shame but good to know, good to know

[heady sand]

more voting

original nsmb: can't go past flagpole (invisible wall)
1- yes!! I'd like this behaviour in vcmi
2- no!! i want to go past the flagpole in vcmi

[gloomy socket]

toggl-

jk jk

but

imo opt 2

cause like

the main purpose of that barrier in nsmb is for you to either not break the cutscene of going into the castle or guarantee you the top of the flagpole if you go way above it, which neither are in vcmi (atleast not in the current one),
so for me option 2 is better, no unnecessary limitation

(not that going past the flagpole has any use either tho other than like H&S lol)

[sick sequoia]

ill pick 1

[gloomy socket]

though-

it does help make you not miss the flagpole which is a + of it

so kinda unsure rn

[wind oriole]

skill issue if you miss the flagpole

[sick sequoia]

huh

[foggy vault]

hi Windows

(This is a joke)

[cosmic swan]

It's Funny To Go Over The Flag Heheheh

[craggy iris]

def 2

1 would just be inconvenient in some scenarios

like this is vcmi

some ruleset could prob break this

[gloomy socket]

thats why we should have opt 3: toggle

[snow oriole]

no frosty's spitting

unironically i think it should be a toggle

[craggy iris]

its not big enough for a toggle

just keep it as it is thid isnt the accuracy mod,,

[gloomy socket]

yea ur kinda right

but if Vic wants !!

[naive escarp]

8-7

i win

[gloomy socket]

*do not

[heady sand]

erm, yeah whatever lol

good enough.

[heady sand]

damn, last second comeback from option 2

what a heated match

[naive escarp]

didn't see this

hi controler

[naive escarp]

does it forces you to download or just a warning?

[gloomy socket]

psure that’s just a warning

[empty ore]

THE LOVE THE FONT WITH SHADOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

GG

[exotic dirge]

"match rules" didn't seem to work on Android

at least when I'm the one hosting (though special conditions like low gravity did function as intended)

I was also unable to toggle on-screen controls off, even when I had a PS4 controller connected

lack of music was also an issue but it seems you're already working on that lol

[gloomy socket]

v10 mini kinda had some limitations from the midi plug-in Vic used which resulted in no music in Linux, web and android

but he found a new one so w

as for the other stuff idk

[exotic dirge]

using the trackpad on the PS4 controller also registers a directional input which gets stuck until you press another direction yourself

it's a bit weird and it might be a bit too specific to be worth fixing rn but I figured I might as well include it lol

but yeah, even regardless of those issues, I had a lot of fun playing this with friends

thanks for making this, and even bigger thanks for porting it to Android (I don't have access to a computer right now as my old laptop broke)

besides bug fixes, a few more player models could be nice since rn they're all just NSMB enemies

[exotic dirge]

Oh yeah, if it helps at all for bug fixing I use a Galaxy S20 FE 5G

On Android 13

[heady sand]

yup, just a warning so everyone knows the experience might be bad on a web browser and that it's better in the standalone

[heady sand]

yeah, I... I just tested it myself and they indeed don't work if you're the host on mobile (although they do if someone else on PC is hosting, even if it shows up as "None")
I have no excuse for this, I completely missed it when building tha android app a couple of months ago. although thx for the bug report, I'll see what might cause this

[heady sand]

i greyed out that setting on purpose since i thought no one on mobile would want to disable the on screen controls lol, but I guess it makes sense to leave it available anyway for ppl with external controls

[heady sand]

for this, I'm almost completely sure it's an "issue" of how android handles and emulates its external gamepad inputs. I can't do anything about it unfortunately

but thx for enjoying nevertheless! i assure you the experience is better on a computer but no problem

I'm already working on making everyone's experience a bit better by fixing some critical bugs these next couple of versions, and even adding more content. might take a while still, but i hope you look fwd to that

[exotic dirge]

👍

Oh yeah, the toggle for "sprint shoots fireball" was also greyed out

I can infer why that is though, since touch controls are set to auto sprint

[heady sand]

Same justification

Yup. It's a comfort feature for touchscreen users

[exotic dirge]

The thing is, hitting "reset to default" on the controls screen sets that option on with no way to turn it back lol

However it'll turn back off when you reload the game

[heady sand]

Oh... Interesting edge case

Alright I'll note it down

[junior tiger]

its kind a like the webgl popup in 1.8 saying hosting on webgl is eh shit

gg good job

[naive escarp]

yeah

webgl sucks

[heady sand]

It does draw in more players though because it's very convenient and just shows up on google. That popup will at least now let them know there's more than meets the eye

[junior tiger]

also webgl sufferes from frame drops a bit aswell

[gloomy socket]

wdym

if you’re hosting on mobile it doesn’t work appArently

I think

if someone that isn’t on mobile hosts they can

!

[reef narwhal]

@heady sand why!!!!

[heady sand]

idk ask mr. computer

it's a bug with android builds. if you're host, adding match rules doesn't have any effect. i must've missed it when building that version

[reef narwhal]

ooh

that's sad

[gloomy socket]

wait wdym

as in spawn any of the enemies in the game? There’s a rule that does that

it spawns a random one

I think it has
goomba, goombrat
red/green/blue koopa
bullet/banzai bill
piranha

[exotic dirge]

Tried having a PC user host and it didn't work, even for other PC users

Hold on

Might just be an issue with certain rulesets/conditions

We did "look up = give mega" and that didn't work, but "get star = kill player" does

yeah certain conditions and effects just don't work from what we played

"look up = give mega" worked but only for the host

"get star = launch upwards" was the same

[heady sand]

yeah, that's another, unrelated bug

long story short, directional input related conditions are host only by accident. there's an anticheat measure in the game that i missed to add an exception for when coding in those rules

again, sorry for these messy secondary effects to some rules

[exotic dirge]

no worries

we've still been having lots of fun lol

today we did 2v2s by having two pairs of people match characters and aim to have either of the teammates win

[cosmic swan]

vcmi
When Saying It,
Vic Me

...

That's My Wisdom

[reef narwhal]

vic is hidden within all of us

[heady sand]

snazzy songs and stuff!!

[sick sequoia]

Very nice

[wise urchin]

ost changes depending on the map/level

but why 3-B level has the pipes background preview?

[heady sand]

because it's pipes in the sky

i dunno

[sick sequoia]

Bruh because it has so many pipes in the sky

[wise urchin]

vic add my battle/versus map!!!!!

here is it

what do you think about my map?

[reef narwhal]

@gloomy socket

[vagrant surge]

why doesnt it do the wooosh when changing worlds smyh

[reef narwhal]

oh yeah that!

@heady sand do it, now

[heady sand]

wouldn't that be too excessive

[gloomy socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175487348046307489/1267832168978317374/caption.gif

[reef narwhal]

VIC NOOOOOO

[wise urchin]

no way

[sick sequoia]

Noooo Vic 😔

[heady sand]

loser lol

[heady sand]

BAHs are back! (and also the ability to disable them)

[junior tiger]

ggs!!!!

[gloomy socket]

actual gg

[gloomy socket]

wait where did al jungle go…

[heady sand]

removed by author's request

[gloomy socket]

damn

did they ask you like after v10 mini released?

[heady sand]

yeah

[gloomy socket]

hmm

[junior tiger]

ArianLust Jungle is gone bye bye

[naive escarp]

ArianLust Jungle

Lust Jungle

Lost Jungle

@empty ore reference

[heady sand]

what?

Vertical levels such as NSMB DS' "Tower" stages (from bottom to top):
1- I want them!! They would totally work as race maps in vcmi
2- Nope!! I think they would be annoying/other

[gloomy socket]

instant win! (1)

[heady sand]

Note: the race would end upon entering the boss door

[vagrant surge]

dang, no mario maker 2 "get in the key door after killing the boss and everyone catches up" gameplay? smh

[gloomy socket]

I mean it was discussed before yk…

[heady sand]

Not for now. Kinda annoying, would have to rethink a better way of doing it lol

[snow oriole]

mario maker competitive in mvl

[reef narwhal]

who can make the most horrible stage in ten minutes competition

[cosmic swan]

Done

[reef narwhal]

WHAT

[cosmic swan]

I've been Slowly Making A Map 8000 Tiles Long, With No Coins Lots Of Death

[heady sand]

That was 0 minutes you silly

[reef narwhal]

true hi vig

vic

vig 😭

[sick sequoia]

Hola vic

[reef narwhal]

vic could be inside all of us and not even the doctor would know

[craggy iris]

what did he mean by this

[naive escarp]

what

[sick sequoia]

Idk

I got confused

[junior tiger]

Make the door only accessable for host :troll

[heady sand]

erm what the sigma

[wise urchin]

flying spiny

[naive escarp]

What just happened to those cliffs and bushes

[heady sand]

i did nothing to them

[junior tiger]

Vic please never say those words again, otherwise sick tricks with spinny?

[heady sand]

they BAHd too hard

[junior tiger]

Bah rn:

[cosmic swan]

🐏

[naive escarp]

🦃

[heady sand]

Oh my god I know what causes it

Ok so prepare for yapping

[naive escarp]

harharhar

[heady sand]

So the enemies are programmed to jump every time a "bah" note happens in the song
Every instrument is like in its own channel in midi you know
And generally in nsmb the BAHs are in their own unique channel so they're easy to differentiate! So I just say ok for every note in the bah channel make the enemies jump
Butt!
In this specific song, the beach theme, the BAH instrument is completely mixed in with the drums channel! So the code thinks the drums are BAHs too cause it can't see the difference
So the enemies end up jumping a lot, basically with every drum beat

Very fun

Thanks Nintendo

[naive escarp]

Wait the MIDIs are like that?

The BAHs are mixed with the drums?

[heady sand]

No, just the beach theme has this phenomenon

[junior tiger]

True Words with vic

I mean atleast its not nsmbw tower with secret bahs

[heady sand]

I can demonstrate

[naive escarp]

i dont wanna but

ok

[heady sand]

Nah it's just for anyone who cares it's ok

[junior tiger]

I care

[naive escarp]

fair

[junior tiger]

Also vic why are the midis a bit pitched?

Daycore?

[heady sand]

All music is pitched down to 0.98 because it's fun

[junior tiger]

It kinda is fun, I'll give you that

[heady sand]

first song: bahs are alone (good)
second song (beach theme): bahs are mixed w drums (bad, spinies go bye bye)
third song: bahs are alone (good)

[junior tiger]

Mini Bahs

[heady sand]

ok back to sleep, i'll fix that another day

[junior tiger]

Nostalgia

Anyways gn vic

Imma try to sleep too now 3 am grrrr

[wise urchin]

the midis have a oscilloscope deconstruction

i guess

[gloomy socket]

a what 🥹

[exotic dirge]

Did a round with 3 lives per player, getting a 1-UP every 60 seconds, but we only ever got one extra life and I'm pretty sure the match lasted longer than 2 minutes.
Should be noted that the host player ran out of lives and was disqualified shortly after getting the first extra life, so that might have something to do with it

[gloomy socket]

yeah 1up rules are kinda weird rn, they only increase the host’s count im pretty sure

pretty sure that the host wasn’t dead on their screen

[heady sand]

34 megabytes when compressed

that's cool i like that yes

should go up by a couple of megabytes after adding the new maps and characters but

[vagrant surge]

what midi's do to a mf

[heady sand]

On god fr

Oh and also IL2CPP I guess

[vagrant surge]

I was gonna use il2cpp but it actually made the performance worse lol

at least on my pc / for 1.7

Id love to use midis in the base game but literally nothing supports webgl 😔

[heady sand]

Wow. Weird, had the opposite experience
Maybe there were some extra options in player settings, like setting the compile thing to Master

But oh well

[heady sand]

Urg yeah
I found this thing once that sounds related but I have zero idea if it's the right thing, and how it works...

https://github.com/hecomi/UnityWebGLAudioStream

[vagrant surge]

that might work?

it depends if its an audio stream or if its a single sample

[heady sand]

Ooh, that's good news. I'm sure you can make more use of it than me
The current midi library is based on MeltySynth and just uses bytes pushed thru an audio source comp

In real time

Because the synthesis happens independently in a couple of scripts

[vagrant surge]

makes sense

[heady sand]

Something something PCM data? Again, I'm not knowledgeable enough on this low level stuff. Just what I read in readmes

[vagrant surge]

it looks like it's streaming the audio

[heady sand]

I'd agree

[gloomy socket]

make all the notes played by the midi streamed audio
easy fix

[heady sand]

They already are

And that's exactly what webgl doesn't support lol

[vagrant surge]

like I only see one "play" call

and the audio sample buffer gets continuously filled in Update()

actually wait

    void Update() {
        ...
        
        if (_bufPos >= chunkSize)
        {
            Lib.Play(_buf, chunkSize);
            Array.Clear(_buf, 0, chunkSize);
            _bufPos = 0;

            var rest = n - len;
            if (rest > 0)
            {
                Array.Copy(data, len - 1, _buf, 0, rest);
                _bufPos += rest;
            }
        }

        ...
    }

i think its doing
"heres (2048/44100)s of audio, play this"
"heres (2048/44100)s of audio, play this"
...

hmm... i wonder how performant that is...

is there no way to write to an audio buffer array directly and have JS just loop over that instead of doing individual Play calls...?

public static extern void Play(float[] array, int size);

which calls

    Play: function(offset, size) {
        if (!this.ctx) return;

        const arrayF32 = new Float32Array(size);
        for (let i = 0; i < size; ++i) {
            arrayF32[i] = HEAPF32[(offset >> 2) + i];
        }

        const gain = this.ctx.createGain();
        if (isFinite(this.volume)) {
            gain.gain.value = this.volume;
        }
        gain.connect(this.ctx.destination);

        const buf = this.ctx.createBuffer(1, size, sampleRate);
        buf.getChannelData(0).set(arrayF32);

        const src = this.ctx.createBufferSource();
        src.buffer = buf;
        src.connect(gain);

        const t = this.ctx.currentTime;
        if (t < this.scheduledTime) {
            this.scheduledTime += buf.duration;
        } else {
            this.scheduledTime = t + buf.duration + initDelay;
        }

        src.start(this.scheduledTime);

        console.log("Play", this.scheduledTime);
    },

i... cant tell if this would be performant or not tbh

it should™️ work but it might be slow

tldr: "streaming" audio by sending chunks and then playing those, instead of doing something like a circular buffer.

[heady sand]

Right

[vagrant surge]

https://github.com/uezo/uLipSyncWebGL heres something else that does something similar

opposite direction though (webgl microphone to unity), same concept

[gloomy socket]

when the custom matches vic

[reef narwhal]

when the Vic matches

[sick sequoia]

When the vcmi

[heady sand]

when the Assets/Resources/Sound/world/ambiance/

[wise urchin]

tornado.ogg

[gloomy socket]

NOOOOOOO

[naive escarp]

I tried that ambience thing before

But idk how to code those things up so i just included the ambience in one of my map's music

Illusion Forest

(The mario world one)

[heady sand]

shouldn't be too much of a hassle to code. just have a second audio source that plays it just like the main music

[naive escarp]

I don't know how to code in general so bleh

[gloomy socket]

u can like

add anothero bject

give it audio source

change the audio clip to be the ambience

turn both play on awake and looping on

and make the audio mixer musicfx

wait no, make it sound fx

i might actually

do this myself

djskfjksdjf

gonna create a sea wave one for beach maps 🔥

[foggy vault]

Toggles are not real, they cannot hurt you.
SMB1-styled Rex:

[sick sequoia]

That looks like rex from smw

[foggy vault]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wind oriole]

ooooo yea it does

[small vale]

WOW

no shit

[heady sand]

damn copying huh!!

/j

[small vale]

oh wait

will the new doofenvics matchinator update have frostys add ons?

[wise urchin]

true

[reef narwhal]

so retro

the only ones I slightly don't like is the big mole I guess but it's still really good

[wise urchin]

shy guy looks cool

[naive escarp]

Aren't you supposed to post those in art channel than vcmi thread...?

[sick sequoia]

Holy shit
Moneybag

[foggy vault]

It’s here for a reason

Also the stars intimidate me

[naive escarp]

What does that mean exactly

Reacting is bad for you?

[wise urchin]

but why

[foggy vault]

It’s a mental issue with my lack of popularity and loneliness

[reef narwhal]

some art deserves more attention than it gets which could demotivate some people

I hate posting fifteen minute doodles because they do well

[naive escarp]

If i get 1 star react from something i made in art channel i am the happiest mf in here
That's how i am lol

[reef narwhal]

like the disappointment from a hours worth of effort into art only for it to be beaten by something I drew in record time sometimes burns

[gloomy socket]

pretty much what zomble said, a lot of times you see a piece of artwork with more effort put into get less attention than one with less effort put into, mostly by a bias or something idk

[snow oriole]

no its just cause people dont like scrolling up

to look at the other art

im like half sure thats why star boards exist

[gloomy socket]

mvlo starboard

[naive escarp]

bah

[wind oriole]

wats starboard

[heady sand]

Ooh that's not too bad of an idea

[foggy vault]

It would need to be set to NSMB Stars

[foggy vault]

Also Vic
this

[heady sand]

Yeah sure if frosty is ok with that

[small vale]

@gloomy socket get ur butt

over here

[foggy vault]

no way Giddy Sky in VCMI real?

[wise urchin]

@heady sand my map is gonna be added in your mod?

[heady sand]

these are the 14 levels candidates to be added as race maps in the next version (you can zoom in to see them better)
do note:

• some enemies and hazards will not be implemented (bouncy mushrooms, bat enemies, etc.)
• these levels will be adapted so that hide and seek is possible in them

please say thoughts and opinions!! (i.e., it's too many or if some of them wouldn't work)

[naive escarp]

Sewer!!

Cliffs!!

Castle!!

[wise urchin]

2-3 level

[sick sequoia]

NICE

wait why 7-1???

and yeah dont forgot that 2-3 is peak level

[snow oriole]

7 tower is hype

[foggy vault]

Sewer sounds fun

[gloomy socket]

i mean the level looks good
vic might either have to code the moving platforms or replace them with multiple semisolids

[sick sequoia]

I wanted 7-A
That pipe level one 🤔

[gloomy socket]

ye

[foggy vault]

Awesome

Look, ramps! We can use these as ramps!

[heady sand]

7-a is interesting in nsmb but not sure if it's good for mvl/racing tbh

[gloomy socket]

i had just thought that while looking at the level..

it’s just mostly pipe entering, and you only stay there for so long due to trying to figure out where u need to go and find the star coins

cause the level is really short

[foggy vault]

done

[naive escarp]

nice sprites you got there

[foggy vault]

thx

[sick sequoia]

Is that splunken :Zaza:

[naive escarp]

emoji fail

[foggy vault]

[sick sequoia]

I hite you

Window

[foggy vault]

oh my god

[naive escarp]

aw me too ♥️

[foggy vault]

oh phew

I thought you were going to call out the

uhh

nothin :)

parnets

[foggy vault]

The one that happens to look like Rex from SMW for some odd reason (Believe me idk why he looks like Rex from SMW either) is the best and worst one at the same time

btw do what they say 😈

[naive escarp]

what

[reef narwhal]

really nice, add eerie

[heady sand]

Oh mein Gott

[wise urchin]

1UP

[junior tiger]

vic is german comfirmed

HI VIC

[sick sequoia]

I thought Vic was Spanish 🤔

[junior tiger]

No hablo espanol

[heady sand]

Hello dear lust

[reef narwhal]

hi vic

[heady sand]

What are you doing awake so early

[heady sand]

Hello zomble

[wise urchin]

yo si

[junior tiger]

que?

[heady sand]

No lo digas no lo digas no lo digas

[wise urchin]

yo si hablo español

[sick sequoia]

nah french language is better

[wise urchin]

spanish is good

[vagrant surge]

ehh,, ce n'est pas mal...

[heady sand]

French was very difficult for me to learn at school, and I still don't know it

I much prefer Spanish I guess

[sick sequoia]

convenu xD

[vagrant surge]

mais ce n'est pas bon. lol

[junior tiger]

What's a french?

[sick sequoia]

aw ok

[heady sand]

It's funny that Mal in french is good but Mal in Spanish is bad

Makes me hehe hoho

[junior tiger]

zomble moment

hoho

[sick sequoia]

mal in french is bad

[vagrant surge]

^

[vagrant surge]

"mal" is still bad

it's not bad, but it's not good

is what i said lol

[junior tiger]

mediocre?

[heady sand]

Oh

Well, as I said, french doesn't stay in my head properly so I got confused lol

[junior tiger]

I got spanish

not french

so vic you be my translator :troll

[wise urchin]

ta bien lust

[junior tiger]

si

no hablo espanol lol

[wise urchin]

pero esta bien escrito y entendible

[heady sand]

Vale querido Lujuria yo te ayudaré :)

[junior tiger]

who da fuck is Lujuria

[heady sand]

You

[wise urchin]

lust

[junior tiger]

ooooooooh

Okay

Let's get to helpin?

[gloomy socket]

same

all i know to say is ''je m'apelle est frosty'' 👽.....

[heady sand]

The EST shouldn't be there

[vagrant surge]

je m'appelle is more like "i'm called $x" (in grammar structure), "my name is $x" in literal translation

[heady sand]

It is present in "mein name ist frosty" though

Or wait that's german

[vagrant surge]

hence no "est"

also est is third person, "suis" is first person

[sick sequoia]

je m'appelle is ( my name is ) in english

man im so good at french language x)

[vagrant surge]

🎉

[empty ore]

lust repite lo que digo

[junior tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-yapping-talking-angry-bird-gif-3706599061234453359

[wise urchin]

[gloomy socket]

NOOOOO

[naive escarp]

MvLO and [W.I.P]

How about

[gloomy socket]

wat

[naive escarp]

[W.I.P] MvLO insert mod name

[sick sequoia]

Whas that?

[boreal ibex]

i dont understand

[gloomy socket]

the thread got hidden

it was between mmim and loader

[boreal ibex]

oh

oh right

[wise urchin]

wip means work in progress

[naive escarp]

ik

[wise urchin]

what do you think about my new profile?

[naive escarp]

Let's make a new mod

It will be called

MvLO busted

[cosmic swan]

it will be called

canceled

[naive escarp]

MvLO cancelled???
@ ipod kill this guy

[cosmic swan]

lemi Think ABout It...

[naive escarp]

What level is tha

[wise urchin]

Jungle

[spark moss]

Doolar mheyem spotted

Back to trying to sleep

[boreal ibex]

hell yeah doolar mheyem

[wise urchin]

broken version of doodler's mayhem

[craggy iris]

doolar mheyem

[wise urchin]

💵

Mayhem

[boreal ibex]

mheyem*

[gloomy socket]

mayheps

[sick sequoia]

Hi vic

[wise urchin]

hello vic

[heady sand]

ok

hi gabriel

[heady sand]

this wii u model of nabbit looks too high res let me just?

the?

[sick sequoia]

Nabbot

[naive escarp]

lol

[vagrant surge]

beautiful

ship it.

[wise urchin]

nabbit is added in vcmi

or no?

[heady sand]

Nabbit is nabbit

[wise urchin]

you see

[heady sand]

oh i didn't know that

[sick sequoia]

Pokey

POKEY

[wise urchin]

i think this are planned in 17.0.11-mega update

[heady sand]

i've shown multiple times the characters that will get in the next update, i'm not trying to keep them a secret
the thing is that image isn't correct either

[vagrant surge]

dang. you should ask that vic guy to explain themselves

[heady sand]

blocked me

[junior tiger]

I can ask em

didnt block me

,,,yet

[gloomy socket]

pumpkin 😭

[sick sequoia]

Where's splunken :(

[wise urchin]

you mean splunkin

[sick sequoia]

I call him splunken

[wise urchin]

we should need star coins ui

[wise urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Nwwj4URBY

vcmi rule be like

[naive escarp]

vic.

[heady sand]

ok next week i'll go somewhere and won't be able to work on anything anymore so!
we wrapping up this week. i made a list of everything that's left to do and at the end of the day i'll share the progress so i can motivate myself to finish this

thus hopefully v11 will be out the door by this weekend

[naive escarp]

I will throw cement powder once you open the door

hoho

the ultimate prank

[heady sand]

report for day 1 out of 6:

🛌

[heady sand]

good luck

[heady sand]

report for day 2 out of 6:

(i had some time at the beach and then played some kkt sorry i got a bit distracted)

[vagrant surge]

based

[heady sand]

Guys it's over vcmi is going to be 39 MB instead of 38 ☹️

[empty ore]

and... whats wrong w that

[boreal ibex]

joke flew so high it went over your head

[sick sequoia]

Aw ☹️

[cosmic swan]

Remove The Code
Boom. Fixed.

[foggy vault]

unplayable

I trusted u vic... :(

[naive escarp]

people losing their minds over 1mb: 🪦

[heady sand]

I mean this adds up
That's why we've got games that are tens or hundreds of gigabytes and mods that are almost half a gig

[heady sand]

Already tried that. Made vcmi unvcmi'd trolleybus
#mvl-development-and-modding message

[wind oriole]

hi vic

[wind oriole]

trolleybus?

as in

midbus?

bowsers inside story

[heady sand]

Goes nuts

[naive escarp]

Looking at 10P and NSLB

[heady sand]

Wasn't your mod also about 400 megs? 🫰

[naive escarp]

New update coming soon will be 264

But technically right now, yes 🤒

[heady sand]

Those pesky audios

[naive escarp]

Yep, the main problem is music

The thing that saved up storage in my mod was the quality

I set it to 50%

[boreal ibex]

idont even know how much storage does fboc take

[naive escarp]

266mb

[heady sand]

When installed or the compressed zip?

[naive escarp]

installed

[heady sand]

Hrm

[boreal ibex]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

idk what to compare it to so i have no idea if thats too much or what

[heady sand]

It's between medium and high

I'd say

[boreal ibex]

i mean having its own ost is a price to pay

[naive escarp]

same here

@boreal ibex try do the same thing i did to WMM OST

[boreal ibex]

what thing

[naive escarp]

hold on a sec

[boreal ibex]

its been 4 minutes

[naive escarp]

@boreal ibex Select all the music, and set the quality 10 50%

Me at myself atleast couldn't hear a difference between 100 and 50

[boreal ibex]

hm.

ill have to judge that myself.

[naive escarp]

(I export my music at 192kbps)

[heady sand]

I thought you said 192kHz and I was really worried for a second

[naive escarp]

That's way worse than CD audio lol

[heady sand]

Worse? You might be mistaking it with smth else

CD audio is at 44.1kHz

And usually the maximum before human hearing won't notice a difference because of how we are, is 48kHz

So that's why I was worried you were using a super duper high format completely unnecessarily (but I just misread)

[reef narwhal]

vcmi in 2032 will be so peak

[heady sand]

Don't tempt me to use unreal engine zomble

[heady sand]

Btw that's 44.1, not 441

This is not taking bitrate into consideration, we not talking abt that

[craggy iris]

HI vic

[heady sand]

Hi miya long time no see

[sick sequoia]

Hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello mariogamer

[wise urchin]

hello vic

[foggy vault]

@heady sand https://youtu.be/IuW4b_IGo3c?si=RaHeuDJIrzOiX4XE&t=274

[gloomy socket]

hu

[gloomy socket]

also that thumbnail 😭🙏

[boreal ibex]

mundo n

🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[empty ore]

ivy do you know spanish or what

[foggy vault]

from what I hear this guy doesn't know this is a mod of a fangame that recreates the original mode

[foggy vault]

yes

[empty ore]

WHAT

[foggy vault]

si

[empty ore]

show spanish skills NOW

[gloomy socket]

shes puerto rican iirc

[foggy vault]

hola mi nombre es Ivy y estoy haciendo un mod de Mario vs. Luigi Online llamado "Ivy's Shiny Blowout"

[gloomy socket]

im probably wrong lol

[foggy vault]

ding ding ding

[gloomy socket]

o

gg

[empty ore]

wtfff

wait

wait im kinda confussed

what is ur first language

english or

[foggy vault]

can we continue in Frosty's GC

[empty ore]

a

[boreal ibex]

oh right

i'm.. not there anymore..

hah..

hahah..

[foggy vault]

I hope my map isn't part of the "malisimos" pls

[wise urchin]

my first language is spanish...

[heady sand]

Is vcmi really on there

I hope it's not on the PEORES categoru

Watching later

[reef narwhal]

it's on there

[heady sand]

That's hilarious

We've made it team

[reef narwhal]

too bad I don't understand Spanish..

I'll never know 🫗

[heady sand]

Shame v11 is not out for them

[heady sand]

puede perder la originalidad
Sob sob sob

I gotta do vcmi justice

[heady sand]

is mvlo mod comparing dude to robox

[wise urchin]

xd

[naive escarp]

Bro is really comparing a MvLO mod to roblox

[snow oriole]

hi vic

[heady sand]

hellooooo pxguin pxguin

[sick sequoia]

Hi vic

[wise urchin]

hello peakguin hello vic

[craggy iris]

penguin 🐧

[snow oriole]

me

[heady sand]

totel

oh right umm updates. I guess it's gotten the best of me so sorry to not have stuck to the planned deadline
expect some kind of change to vcmi soon

[vagrant surge]

Omg Vic's 1.8???

[heady sand]

erm... what...

nah it's not quite that. you know i wouldn't release it before vanilla would be ready

[wise urchin]

that version uses v1.8's code

[naive escarp]

no

it uses

[heady sand]

had no idea

[vagrant surge]

how do you like quantum /s

[gloomy socket]

lemi playtest quantum

[vagrant surge]

go ahead

just build it yourself

[gloomy socket]

crud

[cosmic swan]

dw fossy,
This is salvageable

[naive escarp]

Haha

Amateur...

The source is just 4gb big guys

no big deal smh

[cosmic swan]

Me When i Haven't Emptied The Trash For A Year:

No big Deal indeed

[naive escarp]

also

temp files

[heady sand]

It's fine
The neater code really helps

[heady sand]

Pc storage is worth pennies now so no excuse

[vagrant surge]

wait have you actually been looking at nightly-quantum lol

[heady sand]

Oh darn I didn't realize what exactly we were talking about
No I haven't used that branch yet, I only got up to nightly w fusion

[vagrant surge]

ah

[vagrant surge]

you should see nightly-quantum, then

it's completely different, once again :,)

[junior tiger]

1.8 fuckery moment