🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[cosmic swan]

They Are Wigglers, Which Are Caterpillars

[heady sand]

Wigglers! Yes, thanks

[gloomy socket]

why are they called wigglers....

[heady sand]

Anyway so maybe if I implement wigglers and vines that area can come back. In the meantime, there's no use

[gloomy socket]

do they wiggle....?

[heady sand]

Yes

Their individual parts go ↑↓↑↓ when walking

[gloomy socket]

o ye

the donut block bridge......

[heady sand]

I steal the donut block asset from kkt...

Jk jk, I'd never do such

[cosmic swan]

You Wouldn't Wana Right Now Anyways, It's A Little Buggy Lol

[idle hornet]

i downloaded it............................

[wind oriole]

good job

[gloomy socket]

vic u shoul add 1ups (the mushroom) to vcmi!!!

[sick sequoia]

can we disable the 1up powerup?

mf just lying face'd me for a SINGLE question

what an L

[gloomy socket]

nu uh uhhh

ok ill undo it....

[heady sand]

the 1up mushroom is not present in vcmi at the moment, but when i add it i'll add a chance modifier too, dw (reply to @sick sequoia)

[gloomy socket]

done

[heady sand]

something i'll probably not use but h

[dense shadow]

not the 1up trolls

[gloomy socket]

font?

[heady sand]

it's just going to be normal 1ups

[tardy sentinel]

ijktunp9g

[heady sand]

i'm trying to draw the rest of the letters of the "no item" """font""" that the reserve sprite uses

No Itema b c d f h ijklunpgq rs v w x y z
Some letters are not recognizable still! idk how to draw ok!

[tardy sentinel]

vic

[dense shadow]

good

[dense shadow]

idk how to draw neither

[tardy sentinel]

sorry i just found the hi

hi vic

[heady sand]

k

hello romanian

[gloomy socket]

vic sequence or stream

[craggy iris]

vic would you rather become a candy corn or a chair

[heady sand]

a chair
i don't like candie s

[reef narwhal]

let me eat you vic

just become a candy corn

[heady sand]

?? you can't eat a chair

youll get splinters
in your tongue

[wind oriole]

so what

it's still possible

I've bit into a chair before

plastic

[heady sand]

i'm personally not letting you

[wind oriole]

watch your back

[cosmic swan]

Nah

[wind oriole]

stfu kirnip

[wind oriole]

I apologize for my previous actions

[cosmic swan]

|:|

[gloomy socket]

vic what do u think about wavy beach

[astral fiber]

why is it that when i chat the characters repeat

like hhhhhiiii or stuff

[heady sand]

It's a known bug just for the android version

I'll try to fix it next version

[idle hornet]

cool mod .but whenever i load a race level it all turned black and green . can anyone tell me what's the problem

[heady sand]

Yup, it's a bug that happens with some graphics drivers. Please try this version instead: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D0zp8qN3syRxhxlGv_Igu8oWLpaFrZfp/view?usp=drive_link
this will be fixed in the next update, sorry for the inconvenience

[gloomy socket]

mono vs stereo

[quaint socket]

my heart's a stereo

[heady sand]

make me your radio

[empty ore]

i always ask ma self whats better

mono or stereo

and idk...

can someone help me...

[gloomy socket]

r u referring to actual sound or vcmi

also hi bliscor hi ultomato hi vlc media player

[quaint socket]

h

[heady sand]

hello frosty cake

[heady sand]

for vcmi the mono thing doesn't refer to audio, and a "stereo" vcmi doesnt exist lol
it's just a compatibility graphics thing if you have visual glitches

[idle hornet]

A-thank you so much for-to-helping me

[gloomy socket]

replace the ''very'' with ''so'',, !!

[boreal ibex]

booo that isn't Mario

[idle hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-ok-ok-ok-oh-ok-oh-okay-gif-18238573721271168162

[gloomy socket]

you're mid

[boreal ibex]

you're custom sequence (spp reference)

[gloomy socket]

this is NOT an spp reference....

oh wait

nvm

[boreal ibex]

[gloomy socket]

vic will ns2 work with spp

[heady sand]

We getting proprietary format OSTs that we don't know how to rip yet 🔥 eating good today

What's that?

[gloomy socket]

nitr

studi

[heady sand]

Oh
Well you can try

The rom needs to have an sdat inside which you can export using tinke

If there's no file like that inside, or it's a bin I stead or whatever then it's no good

[gloomy socket]

uh, yeah 🥹

[heady sand]

That was fast

Also rip

[gloomy socket]

sdfdat 🤔

[boreal ibex]

super duper fucking data at twitter

dot dot dot

[heady sand]

Going thru the sounds inside a nds game's sseq is so fun for me
There's something about it that always gets me

[gloomy socket]

@boreal ibex you shoul make subrella in nsmb style

trust

[boreal ibex]

Learn how to open .bin files

[boreal ibex]

tf is dat

[gloomy socket]

uhh

how about a reverse engineering program....

[heady sand]

Well reverse engineering the file format is definitely the way to go

[gloomy socket]

eheheh

[gloomy socket]

what program tho... (free)

i heard ida pro is good but,,,, expensiv

[heady sand]

Just a normal hex editor like hxd will do

[gloomy socket]

@cosmic swan im going to turkey you

now guys..
admire this background

[heady sand]

Oh also that's not for normal binaries, "just" executables and programs
Also also a free alternative to that is ghidra

[gloomy socket]

oh

[boreal ibex]

huh

[heady sand]

he

Damn... Lost media...

[gloomy socket]

its already ripped doe

[heady sand]

Where?

[gloomy socket]

:thumbs

someone used it to make a tutorial aswell, i saw it a few months ago
they used ida for it so im curious as to how they did it (exportin overlay as exe?)

[heady sand]

Oh
Then what's the issue we were facing lol

[gloomy socket]

uhh they say that the converting them to midis is almost ''impossible'' because the format isnt the one vgmtrans supports so.....

[heady sand]

Hrm

"minisf2 to midi" on Google returns a couple of results I haven't looked at yet so I shall research it
Another Day

[gloomy socket]

theres the 2sflib too....

[heady sand]

Oh I see the guide you mean
Yeah they're using like a plugin for ida pro...
Unfortunate it relies on that thing which is so expensive it says to "login and contact us" on their website instead of publicly acknowledging the pricetag

And with Ghidra existing...

But I have less than 0 experience on all of this so who am I to say

[gloomy socket]

though one thing is that dragging the 2sfs into vgmtrans makes it pop up some samples which uh are like 0.01s long

guys we should send a turkey to eat the turnip wandering there

[heady sand]

Oki!

[cosmic swan]

But Then, He Will gobble Me up...

[heady sand]

That's the entire point

[cosmic swan]

But Turkey Aren't Supposed To gobble, they Gobble...

[craggy iris]

why are mfs reacting with my country rahhh

[sick sequoia]

tur key

[gloomy socket]

vic do u like underwater

[heady sand]

Yes

[tardy sentinel]

hi vic

(hi vic)

[heady sand]

Hello Romanian (hello Romanian)

[idle hornet]

hello everyone(hello everyone)

[tulip knoll]

@ vic
i found a new glitch

[heady sand]

Tell me

[tardy sentinel]

die ... act death

[tulip knoll]

if you have the rule: Finished Lap -> Give Mega, when you touch the flag pole it gives you mega and then removes it, then gives you another lap and continues the cycle

[gloomy socket]

i feel thats more of a thing with the level

rather interesting tho

[heady sand]

Huh. Very interesting
Thx, I'll note it down

[tulip knoll]

update, it only works on levels with a ceiling above the flag

[heady sand]

I agree the collision with the pole is fragile
Like it sometimes lags and gives you more than one lap lol, at least from what I've seen...

[heady sand]

Oh fair

[tulip knoll]

holy shi-

[gloomy socket]

this reminds me of that time the game broke so badly it wouldnt teleport me back to spawn when getting a lap so i just went side to side with propeller and got the 99 laps (didnt win tho bc i forgor starcoins )

[tulip knoll]

anyone up for some h&s?

[deft oasis]

Ivy level appearance

[quiet summit]

Hi Cubby

[deft oasis]

Hi

[wind oriole]

yum

[tulip knoll]

etherieal bitcrush mushroom mega miibumm mushroom

[wind oriole]

yum

[gloomy socket]

aw

gl vic 🙏

[wind oriole]

NO WATER EMOJI??????

NOOOOOOO

[heady sand]

Get dehydrated (gun)

[heady sand]

Thanks!!

[quiet summit]

finally

someone used that damn gun

[trail cosmos]

Can you fix the movement based rules being only host?

[gloomy socket]

v ic mv sl o

[cosmic swan]

How About Instead of Vic Fixing It,

Make it A Togglable Feature

A Explosion Of Possibilities Now

[gloomy socket]

pretty sure hes planned this already with teams

i think

basically you'd be able to set which team is able to trigger the rule and which team gets affected by it

or which player from which team

too much 🥹

[cosmic swan]

It Sounds like He Is Scrapping Teams

[gloomy socket]

huh

[cosmic swan]

But Awsome...

[gloomy socket]

isnt he porting to 1.8

1.8 already has teams

[cosmic swan]

IDK

[gloomy socket]

mmmm

[cosmic swan]

I Think he Is Going To Hold off on The gameplay Features until it Releases

That's What i Would Do

[heady sand]

Teams will come in v18.0.1, whenever that might be (taking it slow because busy!) (also teams are alr in vanilla 1.8 and it's just easier to make use of iPod's much better implementation of em)
Also, yeah rules are supposed to get a feature that limits who they apply to, be it a group or an individual

So the hide and seek dream is not dead, dw!

[cosmic swan]

Now My Flappy Bird Rueset Will Actually Work

[heady sand]

Yup. I can't wait for rule conditions - the main purpose of vcmi - to work as one expects them to. Almost two years after it's original release. Hooray for perpetual beta versions!

[cosmic swan]

Hooray!

[wind oriole]

hi vic

[heady sand]

I'm already matchinatoring a lot in my head to basically redesign the rule creation process for future updates. They'll get more complicated (maybe make it look more friendly with custom dialogues and artwork?), but also hopefully more permissive when creating new gamemodes... But I'm talking too much again

Argh man imagine like a silly friendly approachable rule creating screen with sick drawings and animations like something nintendo would do for a 7 year old to understand

I gotta sleep on this

[boreal ibex]

i would work on that

[cosmic swan]

P

[gloomy socket]

ill help (you already seen my menus....... i think but mayb they not too good)

[cosmic swan]

Better Than Mine Bruh

[gloomy socket]

i do the design and background and you do the drawings 🤝

[gloomy socket]

stop thinking that 💔

[gloomy socket]

ugh i forgot i need to make the guide again grrrr

[cosmic swan]

Nah i'm Just lazy When it Comes To Visuals

[gloomy socket]

fair enough

[heady sand]

Dw, UI I'm good at. Skills I lack are illustrations ig. But it's too early to think about that... maybe.

[boreal ibex]

u two are dumb

[cosmic swan]

Who Two

[boreal ibex]

you

and you

[cosmic swan]

Who

[gloomy socket]

who

wai wha

[tulip knoll]

Ploopy

[heady sand]

another tiny porting progress report. Nothing too new, but I'm happy with this. the "grabbing" seems to be lag free as well...? (animations will come later)

Took me longer than i'd like to admit to remake the flag waving shader in unity 2022 shader graph. the old scripted one didn't have the same result after copying it over...

[gloomy socket]

what if the shader was used for heat/water mirrage.......

[heady sand]

sure

weird question:
does it make sense for teams in a race game to, uh, share laps? my opinion is that no but maybe someone has a diff view

how would teaming up in races even work
maybe it's best if races are always individual

[gloomy socket]

no

or idk, it could be a toggle but im not sure

[gloomy socket]

wait does the shader have that built in or do u needa change it to send the wave horizontally in the y axis instead of vertically in the x axis?

[gloomy socket]

it could also be that the rule/condition is directly explained below it with just a few words, not sure if that'll be good enough with the menu size tho!! (will probably end up make it really long or idk)

[gloomy socket]

aw the shader doesnt work with sprites

[heady sand]

I feel like adding more text won't help my case lol. I'll see how I handle it

[heady sand]

Did you grab it from the vcmi-18-dev branch? It's made for mesh materials for 3d models but there might be an easy way to translate it to a sprite material. Dunno how you'd do that though

[gloomy socket]

no i grabbed the one from .17

wait it might be cause i didnt put a texture oops

but the animation......

[heady sand]

Yeah the shader/material takes in 4 parameters, the texture (most important of course), and then amplitude, speed and frequency. A normal range would be 1 or 2 for the first two and about 5 to 10 for the speed. But you gotta experiment
The axis though is baked into the formula. You'll have to go into the FlagWave.shader code (for v17) or the FlagWaving.shader graph (for v18) and manually modify what vertex axis it affects

[idle hornet]

i found another glitch

[boreal ibex]

ok

[heady sand]

Well, what is the bug?

[idle hornet]

here it is

the blue shell startes running

like the other normal shells

[heady sand]

That's intended, it also happens in the original

[idle hornet]

oh

[tardy sentinel]

vic am i allowed to hi

[heady sand]

If you bump a blue koopa from under a block, it gets into its shell and you can kick it instead of collecting it!

[idle hornet]

oh thanks

[heady sand]

Yeah sure I don't mind them

[tardy sentinel]

oh ok

hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello romanian

[dense shadow]

hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello jgamer

[heady sand]

I wonder if for the next major update the "Luigi nsmb" executable icon should be changed to smth else lol
I mean it's kind of generic it was supposed to be a joke but

[gloomy socket]

make it dry bone like theserver logo with a dark gray-ish thingy

actually gimme the logo of the server, ima try to do dat

[empty ore]

vic what is your favorite mario enemy

[heady sand]

I don't have it at hand, it's on my backups drive which I left h ome

[gloomy socket]

o

[heady sand]

Maybe I can find it on sunday

[heady sand]

Idk I like many... I think they're all cool

[empty ore]

o

[gloomy socket]

dry bon

[empty ore]

for me, i like more the bomb enemy (i always forgor his name)

[gloomy socket]

which bomb...

[cosmic swan]

Bobomb!

[heady sand]

I got it by downloading it from server settings, make sure to downscale it using neatest neighbour to the og resolution so it doesn't lose quality though

[cosmic swan]

(Mine Isn't Bomb Dough)

[gloomy socket]

o oke

i think u need to

Open it in browswr

[heady sand]

Nuh uh... Kab-omb

[gloomy socket]

so it dont look lowq

[heady sand]

Darn ok I see hold on lemme retry

[empty ore]

uh............

[gloomy socket]

but guys what about the firework bomb from wonder

it looks so peak...

[cosmic swan]

My 2nd Favorite

[empty ore]

evil vic be like: bye vic

[heady sand]

K that ain't working because mobile compresses the img

[cosmic swan]

Grrrr

[gloomy socket]

damn

[heady sand]

Yeah that guy is so sillytastic

[tardy sentinel]

evil vic be like: fuck you romanian

[cosmic swan]

What Baffles Me is That Thing Appears in Two Levels, & Bobombs Only Appear in One

[heady sand]

Nintendo likes creating a whole ass new enemy just to use it once
Ever
In the history of mario

Which is fine because variety but makes me sad

[empty ore]

vic what do u think about the those fish enemies

like, in some water stages or sections

i think they sucks

[heady sand]

There are a lot of fishenemies

The cheep cheeps?

[empty ore]

literally fish jumpscare

[empty ore]

ye

[heady sand]

They're ok

[cosmic swan]

Cheep Chomp?

[empty ore]

theyre NOT ok.....

wdym...

[gloomy socket]

how would the jumpy cheeps on a beach level work in mvl...

[spare swift]

they’d be annoying as hell

[cosmic swan]

They Wouldn't Harm,

[empty ore]

yea we know u re gonna do it

[cosmic swan]

TheynWould Love

[gloomy socket]

no?

[heady sand]

Ugh unless they're very sparse they'd get too much in the way

[heady sand]

yes.

[cosmic swan]

New Behaivior, They Don't Harm, They Give A Sweet Kiss Halting You From Doing Anything For 20 Seconds

[gloomy socket]

am i doe...

[spare swift]

that’s like significantly worse

[gloomy socket]

how about they bump you but dont remove stars

[heady sand]

20 seconds is way more time than it seems

In a mvlo match

[gloomy socket]

vcmi 30s condition experience

[cosmic swan]

I'm Sorry, I Meant 20 Minutes / 4^3 + 2 *1.4

[gloomy socket]

but vic how would the transfer host rule work...

will it give it to whom triggers it...

what if who triggers it is the host..

[heady sand]

Random person maybe

[gloomy socket]

what if its via timer...

[cosmic swan]

There Is Already Timer Tho

[gloomy socket]

i mean

the timed rules

[cosmic swan]

Then It's Random Each Time

You Can Probably Pass Over The Current Timer of Somethin

[heady sand]

All rules will have extra parameters to indicate who they affect anyway

[gloomy socket]

vic u shoul add the 2-3 sewer area as a race level,,!

[heady sand]

Yes it's true yes it's true...

[tardy sentinel]

vic are you still study

[tardy sentinel]

romanian person

[empty ore]

vic how is going ur study

[cosmic swan]

Stahp Asking, His Study Is being Halted By It... If he Still Is

[heady sand]

The exam I was studying for was two days ago

Now it's just normal homework stuff lol

Which is still stressful but one thing less to do I guess!! Also it's weekend so 🙂‍↕️🔚🏃🈲

[tardy sentinel]

oh ok

good luck

[heady sand]

Thanks

[foggy vault]

hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello Ivy

[vestal wind]

but that shell should not knockback the player. has been fixed in accuracymod, dont know when tho lol

[heady sand]

Ohh hm, so it just has to hurt them

Ok thx for the report
I'll look into it

That's so weird how it knocks them back
What bug could be causing that

[vestal wind]

it also happens on vanilla 1.7 iirc?

maybe hasnt been fixed in 1.8?

[heady sand]

I don't remember changing any logic related to shell harming, so I'm hoping it's not something unique to vcmi

[vestal wind]

apparently all you have to do is remove this?

it is a vanilla thing

[heady sand]

Got it, thanks again

[gloomy socket]

so you can directly call a function from a component through a script by referring it with it's name from the object... learning new things every day...

[wind oriole]

just wait till lee learns unity...... y'all mods are gonna be SO cooked....

lee gonna dominate the mvlo mod market ong

[gloomy socket]

are you sure about that....

jk

if ur actually going to make a mod tho then i wish u the best of luck on it 🙏

miibumm finish typing

[wind oriole]

3 more months🗣️

[gloomy socket]

how dare you go away

[wind oriole]

im only gonna partner with yours and foxys mod frfr

[cosmic swan]

harhar

[wind oriole]

I cantr collab with you becaus so many stuffs in your mod

[spare swift]

i’m not tho

[gloomy socket]

yu areh

[spare swift]

i haven’t even been on the channel

[gloomy socket]

wh

i saw u typing 😭

[spare swift]

idk what to tell you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025489525738311733/1230322656490815538/ezgif-3-d78a4372da.gif

[cosmic swan]

har-

[wind oriole]

har

[cosmic swan]

(That Doesn't Make Sense...)

[wind oriole]

okr fine you get collab too

blucor is NEVER being connected to lee ! (maybe)

[gloomy socket]

() vic do you like sandwiches and lizards

[tardy sentinel]

is yoshi a dino or a lizard

[heady sand]

Yoshi is a dinosaur

[heady sand]

Yes I do...

[tardy sentinel]

is yoshi a ok

[foggy vault]

Yoshi could be a Koopa

[heady sand]

No wdym

Yeah I guess a distant subspecies

But the resemblance is very little...

[gloomy socket]

he has um a shell in his bac!

and like

front

thing

i forgor name

and eyes like em too....

and most importantly boots....

[heady sand]

I mean you can have a she'll and not be a koop

For example:
Umm...

[gloomy socket]

turtle

but koopas are turtles!!

[gloomy socket]

sea shell

[heady sand]

I mean in the super Mario brithers universe

[gloomy socket]

uhh

that one crab

enemy

from superstar asaga

boss

chrimsta tree

(is that even a shell)

[heady sand]

Oh sure I suppose

[wind oriole]

yoshis name is literally "yoshi munchakoopas"

it's either they're whole thing is killing koopas or they are a koopa

[heady sand]

Right
It literally eats koopers

[heady sand]

Man, I should've done this sooner but it hadn't occurred to me

This is a tool on itch that allows you to easily make certain rules/gamemodes in vcmi and load them up! Thanks to @crisp flame for creating and sharing it in the shenanies server:
https://minerdk4.itch.io/miners-vic-ruleset-maker

[crisp flame]

👍

[quasi rock]

i hit random and got some great rules

that's just devious

[quasi rock]

umm

when i try to change a rule in it

it just scrolls downwards

:I

[crisp flame]

i might have forgotten to put it somewhere
it's Arrow Keys and Scroll to change certain rules

[gloomy socket]

vic how much u edit ui.png....

[heady sand]

Well there are many new HUD icons and character portraits to add so...

[gloomy socket]

:trol

[heady sand]

vanilla mvlo gamemode:

[foggy vault]

I’m too late on saying this but the joke is that I made a video a long while ago back when zombiebobble was Blue Toad and made “Sonic 3D Blast gotta blast” jokes and I put that in some old MvL diss video but I made it intentionally bad and frequently typed “balst” instead of “blast” consistently

[craggy iris]

i am onky now realizing that some of the cool people here werent here at those times

[gloomy socket]

oh lmao

[gloomy socket]

vic do u lik reverbed nsmb overworld (vgmtrans)

[gloomy socket]

vic does nitro studio allow u to convert the sequenced tracks to a streamed format 🤔

[heady sand]

Nah I don't like the extra reverb some midi synthesizers unnecessarily add

I did my hardest to remove them from the rips I used for vcmi

[heady sand]

Yes! It's how I got the hq rips of the sound effects and songs. Choose the audio you need, then right click and select export. In the next dialogue, choose Wave in the file extension/format dropdown
Make sure to have 0 loops and disable Fade

(that's how it's done in version 2 Deluxe, at least...)

It might seem it's "not responding", but trust me it'll finish eventually, after multiple tens of seconds
If however upwards of 2 or 3 minutes have passed and the output file keeps growing in size, you can kill the task. It means it got stuck in a looping portion of the song which you can cut out later

[gloomy socket]

ohh

alr ty

[heady sand]

Np!

[sick sequoia]

Hi Vic!!!

[heady sand]

oh boy.

i love how it looks like old flash games

[gloomy socket]

😭

[heady sand]

a few font swaps later...
I dig the original nsmb look

the outline + shadow combo is Very Satisfactory

[spark moss]

Basic ass font

[gloomy socket]

damn u beat me to it

[heady sand]

10p beat us all technically..........

[gloomy socket]

true....

[empty ore]

how u did it!

tell me plsss

for 10p i literally duplicated the same text but i moved ot a bit the X and Y pos for simulate a shadow outline or smt like that

yeah the worst decision of ma life but there wasnt any option

vanilla font looks very ugly

[heady sand]

You gotta use the underlay with some offset

[heady sand]

tried making the chat messages have the coloured outline depending on the player, like in pictochat... looks nice!
but... images with a shader can't be "masked" and the sprite goes outside the chat boundaries. very disappointing.

[heady sand]

re-enabling chat rich text is funny

but too dangerous

[empty ore]

now do 99 stars message....

and host message....

and pls start message...

[sick sequoia]

10p message

Hi vic

[dense shadow]

hello vic

[heady sand]

Hello mariogamer and jgamer

[idle hornet]

Hello guys

[heady sand]

any ideas for more??

[idle hornet]

draw ?

[heady sand]

added a couple more

i wanna make sure rulesets like hide and seek can still be created even after the bug is fixed

[idle hornet]

ooohhhh nice coding you got there

[gloomy socket]

wait ur actually doing it damnnnn

[gloomy socket]

wdym

what bug

oh

[heady sand]

the some conditions only affect the host bug, which current hide and seek gamemode heavily relies on
i'd like to fix the bug while still making it possible to create that ruleset!
so i implemented targets for both condition and actions
those are the ones i've thought of so far

[gloomy socket]

so it'd be like

1. set condition
2. set action
3. set trigger

wait

1. set condition
2. set condition trigger
3. set action
4. set action trigger

[heady sand]

almost

• set condition
• set who can trigger condition (from screenshot)
• set action
• set target for action (from screenshot)

[gloomy socket]

ooooooooo

sick

[gloomy socket]

howd u do the checking placement tho...

[heady sand]

not implemened yet, but i'll do it just like the scoreboard does it

theres a function to "compare" two players and see which is on top

[gloomy socket]

o

[heady sand]

oh almost forgot, you can combine the targets lol so i.e. you can do host + losing or smth

huge possibilities

[gloomy socket]

wait combine in what way
as in like more than 2 triggers for a condition and like 3 for an action

or just condition trigger + action reciever

[heady sand]

both the condition and the action of a rule can have either one or many targets applied, and they can differ in both

[gloomy socket]

freeze tag ruleset ... (not possible because ice limit)
or perhaps that other suggestion i gave..?

[heady sand]

i.e. the host AND the winning: pressed Up --->>> everyone: dies

here, the condition has a combination of two targets and the action has one different target

[gloomy socket]

oh so its like it requires both of em for the condition?

[heady sand]

the minimum amount is one for both parts

[gloomy socket]

i seee

thats sick tho

[heady sand]

so you could also do
anyone: pressed Up --->>> the host AND the winning: dies

the default behaviour, if you don't wanna bother with this crap, will be like in the current version of vcmi (ignoring bugs)
aka anyone can trigger it and it affects yourself

i know, i know it's complicated and bloated, but i swear i'll make it easy for the end user

[gloomy socket]

wonder how this'd work out with time rules.... something like
every 60s, winner remove star
every30s, losing give star

hmmmmmmm

[heady sand]

yea lol

of course in rules like "1 minute remaining", "every x seconds" or "respawn level", the target property is ignored because it's not player-related

[cosmic swan]

How About...

Cause This Would be Even More Confusing Than Normal,

Create Complexe Rule Button

[gloomy socket]

smart

but that'd make the person question aswell what its meant to do.... kjsdgksdjkhg

[cosmic swan]

The Create Rule Button Creates A Rule Like Normal, But A Complexe Rule Has A Lot More You Can Do With it.

[gloomy socket]

one thing vic can definetely do is add in a guide button

perhaps in the current lobby menu rather than the main menu

due to it being many things

[cosmic swan]

Judging By My Mod, Most People Ignore The Button Lol

[cosmic swan]

yeye

[gloomy socket]

damn

[gloomy socket]

prob because people immediately press the game button

maybe it could be somewhere in the current lobby...

[cosmic swan]

That be A Little Weird Tho, Cause It Just Explains Powerups & The bomb Mechanic

[gloomy socket]

mmmm

[cosmic swan]

My Mod Needs A Gimmick...

[gloomy socket]

i mean

wouldnt it make sense?

[cosmic swan]

IDK

[gloomy socket]

when you join the lobby you're going to see options you dont even know about, so a guide being there for them would make more sense than a guide on the main menu lol

probably not in the options menu tho, maybe in a lil corner or something

[cosmic swan]

Probably

[heady sand]

dw, the new gamemode ui is going to be redesigned to aid players as much as possible
gon add explanations and buttons and dropdowns and stuff, will avoid showing all the information at once to not overwhelm the player

i'll be sharing concepts once i get to that

[cosmic swan]

Complexe Rules Can Also Have Custom Time Rules, So 1 second or 2000 Seconds Could be Possible

[heady sand]

argh i should've streamed this devving session

lol

i don't talk anyway so it's no use

[gloomy socket]

but it would be cool to see vic deving...

and learn things....

[heady sand]

🙏** **

[gloomy socket]

hey vic...
if you plan or manage to implement the midi playback in the 1.8 port...

maybe u could make it so that when your game is paused, you only hear the bass?

or a limited set of instruments

(@foxyyy idea)

super useless but

ye

[heady sand]

This already kinda happens when you're spectator so... I'll see how this can change

[gloomy socket]

oh yea

[heady sand]

Unrelated but sorta related
Yeah man the midi situation is difficult... I'm almost tempted to buy that one 60€ plugin I showed... Almost.
And nah, I couldn't pirate it either, why try to hide it
Rn my best bet is to do some magic auto detection thing where it uses either midi or streamed depending on the OS (of course, streamed would be a "limited" mode with no dynamic music, etc.)
OR
Just ditch midi entirely and try to make different channels/stems using normal oggs. So i.e. grassland_bass.ogg, grassland_drums.ogg, yadda yadda... and mix them with a neat script
I'm still indecisive!! I like midis but idk!!

[gloomy socket]

i mean u can go with whichever seems easier to work with for you
or cheaper to work with

so midi benefits...
dynamic music and etc ye
changeable music

ogg benefits....
idk

[heady sand]

Yup yup

Another midi benefit is that the file size is tiny yet super high quality

• super easy to do transforms like tempo or pitch change

Streamed music is, well, much easier to get hold of lol

[heady sand]

Midi is also free obv, but paying will remove the OS incompatibilities that are present in vcmi v10

[gloomy socket]

grrrr if only we could mp3 to midi convert...

[heady sand]

I'm yapping again cause it helps me think

[heady sand]

True that...

[gloomy socket]

#mvl-development-and-modding message vic perhaps u could make this a thing....

[heady sand]

You alr can
Reached coin limit .. give 1up

(and set coins to 99)

[gloomy socket]

oh yeah

[heady sand]

Smh.

[vague bison]

Make a bmac or something

[heady sand]

What's that?

[heady sand]

github i stg let me back my files up
(tthis has been going on for days)

[heady sand]

i have read this message again and i still don't know what you meant, sry

[gloomy socket]

my github wont even open 💔

[heady sand]

Lol

[vague bison]

A buy me a coffee donation page

Although I don’t know if the Mario company would like that

[heady sand]

Oh right
Well I don't do enough stuff to warrant one I think

[heady sand]

tip for anyone else: that github desktop issue was fixed by running this command:

[gloomy socket]

not related to opnening it tho aw.. (i think)

[heady sand]

maybe a reinstall will help

[gloomy socket]

hi vic its been a while since the last hi vic

[snow oriole]

hi vic

[heady sand]

True, this last week has felt quite ungreeted
Er, I mean, hello frosty cake hello pxguin

[sick sequoia]

Civ ih

[gloomy socket]

civic

[boreal ibex]

honda

[vestal wind]

fit

[heady sand]

Ford Focus c-max (2007) with FM radio and CD infotainment system

[boreal ibex]

that's my car 🗣️

[heady sand]

Wtf give it back

[gloomy socket]

😭🔥

[gloomy socket]

biggest vcmi dream
being the host

[snow oriole]

on gawd!

[cosmic swan]

I Guess That's The Only Bad Thing About vcmi...

But The Mod Is So Good That It Barley Matters

[gloomy socket]

only bad thing about vcmi is hosts making bad use of the rules..........
(by bad use i mean make stuff that isnt playable or fun in the slightest)

[cosmic swan]

That's A Issue With The Player Not The Mod It'self

[gloomy socket]

oop

[heady sand]

The solution is clearly to have an online repository of Good Rulesets™ that hosts can download

Because it's apparently difficult to come up with new rules while playing and so usually they resort to random stuff

[empty ore]

vic can i c word your mod

from github

[heady sand]

What

Oh, clone? I mean sure I can't stop you

What do you need? Just curious

[empty ore]

just for experiment yk

i will not release anything

[heady sand]

Ok cool

Check either the vcmi-17-dev or the vcmi-18-dev branch

[empty ore]

oke

thank u vic

[heady sand]

Np

[empty ore]

vic how to music thing works 💀

also why u removed the sky and bonus songs

[empty ore]

i dont understand anything

[heady sand]

It's midi not ogg anymore

And I didn't have the midis of the bonus and sky songs so I replaced them

[heady sand]

So they are extra super duper high quality and small file size and I can make dynamic music like when you're spectating, etc.!!

[empty ore]

oooo

i see

thank u vic

[cosmic swan]

I Wana Know How The "Bahs" Work...

[heady sand]

Before midis were implemented, it was just hard coded timestamps according to the song

So just a list of the time in seconds or whatever unit when the bahs happen

There was basically no other way with streamed music

[heady sand]

why the hell is the minor/discordant key one exactly 6.66 megabytes though

[gloomy socket]

😭

[snow oriole]

hi vic

[heady sand]

Hello pxguin

Congratulations

[cosmic swan]

Yo Vic, You Should Add A Option To Remove The Race Flag.

[cosmic swan]

@heady sand Does This Look Good For The Randomized Map I Said I Was Going To Make For This Mod?

[heady sand]

Yea

[heady sand]

Sure, why not

[cosmic swan]

Goodie, I Will Have To Do Some Playtesting With It First Tho To Make Sure It Syncs (This Is A Weird Issue And I'm Not Sure if it Exists Cause The Labrinth Map Is Very Buggy To Load.)

[cosmic swan]

Wonder What Would Happen If You Have 1 Of Every Rule Combination Possible With And Without The Knockback/Dive/launch/kill/disqualify

[heady sand]

It becomes unplayable. Too much to keep track of

[gloomy socket]

hi vic

[sick sequoia]

Vic

Hi

[tough schooner]

oh what’d you change?

[heady sand]

Replaced all the music from normal files to midi lol

So high quality, smaller size, faster load and most importantly, dynamic music

[reef narwhal]

maybe, it wasn't about the inators, nor even the matches but maybe the vic's we said hi to along the way..

[heady sand]

Uh, sure

[cosmic swan]

Vic Army 😰

[craggy iris]

kidnap

[gloomy socket]

everyone would love to have a vic plushie 🤝

[heady sand]

wtf! wtf!

[reef narwhal]

I want them ALL

I will have so many inators to make matches for me!

[empty ore]

the giga vic

[gloomy socket]

vic do u hex edit 🤔

hi vic....

[empty ore]

vic

[heady sand]

No I don't

[heady sand]

What would you need to hex edit?

[boreal ibex]

what hex edi

[gloomy socket]

he

[heady sand]

did you need help hex editing somthing? just curious......................

[gloomy socket]

the sound data............ (spp)

[empty ore]

get viced

no wait

vic'ed

[heady sand]

Interesting

[boreal ibex]

how does spp music even work

[wind oriole]

(it's garbage)

[boreal ibex]

i said how does it work, not if it's shit or not

smh get out lee

[wind oriole]

frick !

[gloomy socket]

dynamic
that’s probably why

like for example,,
in a slidebrella area you only hear the first 4 seconds of the music loop until you actually hop on the ropes

and there’s the vibes too which change how the music sounds depending on the vibe

so huh

y

[heady sand]

instead of normal streamed audio (like a wav or mp3 nowadays), it's a sequenced music format like midi is (aka the music is literally specific notes and instruments being told the console to play), but it's proprietary and not very known or documented

[gloomy socket]

fun fact: vcmi has the best visuals

[cosmic swan]

I Wouldn't Say The Best Ever, But Great

[gloomy socket]

*classic visuals

[heady sand]

I'd say they slowly get better and better with each update

[cosmic swan]

vic Can You Mega Evolve?

[heady sand]

Uh sure

[cosmic swan]

Is It Painful Like The Pokedex Says? 🥺

[heady sand]

No

[gloomy socket]

vic are u going to racing

[pearl garnet]

everybody super sonic racing

ok sorry for the ping

[pearl garnet]

get some sleep good vic

[gloomy socket]

dw i dont mind pings lol

(unless its a ghost ping)

[gloomy socket]

@cosmic swan smh

[heady sand]

Imagine the scenario: bosses are added (boss rush or whatever)
How do?

• option a: separate mode that's just exclusively kill the boss to win
• option b: they always come at the end of whatever race map (i.e. the castles)

Vote now by sending vcmi via SMS to 04454

[cosmic swan]

oh shoot, you're beating moi to it

[cosmic swan]

How Do These Work Out Tho
I'm Not Sure What I Would Pick...

[heady sand]

Basically you gotta kill the boss to progress to the end of the level and win. The state of the boss (health, behaviour...) is synced and the same for everyone, so it's like you all work together and against each other towards the common goal of defeating the enemy
Now determining who deserves to win is a story for another time

But right now I'm basically asking for feedback on if they should be their own mode or a toggle for race maps such as castles and you know,

[heady sand]

Dw I'm sure it'll take me three billion years to get to implementing it

[gloomy socket]

damn idk wat to choose,,,

[gloomy socket]

how about, make it be like smm2 with it’s keys

or it could be a ‘most contribution’ thing

[spice schooner]

what if two people have the same contribution?

[gloomy socket]

then uh

respawn the boss but with only 1 hit

[spice schooner]

then the camper steals the kill frfr

[heady sand]

the health of the boss is going to be odd, so like it requires three hits for example

if despite this two people still contribute "the same", then the game'll just say it's a tie

[foggy vault]

Both ideas are good, but I feel like option A is better imo

[gloomy socket]

i see....

[heady sand]

my fear is that option a willl feel too short

[gloomy socket]

true actually,,

i think option b is prob the best

[foggy vault]

Oh

Right

[gloomy socket]

could add in the tower and castle levels

and have em all

[foggy vault]

You’re planning on like

3 hits

Option A would work better with a health bar, Option B would work better with three hits

but would the bosses happen at the final lap or every lap?

[heady sand]

ohh yeah...+

[gloomy socket]

wait i actually hadnt thought of that

im assuming final, no?

[heady sand]

haven't got the slightest idea

ig final too

[gloomy socket]

wait how would that work then

if its thru laps then would it like appear client sided?

for the person on the final lap

actually no wait,

players that arent on the final lap cant interact with the boss

and players that are can

[foggy vault]

That’s a neat idea

[heady sand]

yea something like that could work

[foggy vault]

can my map have a boss that’s literally the final boss from the original game my map is based on

[heady sand]

i really wanna keep the boss network synced
so making it intangible for the ones that are not on their final lap makes sense

[heady sand]

ok

[foggy vault]

(It literally just goes left and right)

[gloomy socket]

gl with that,,,

also how about
if you arent on the final lap you get teleported to the start, and when you're on the final lap you get teleported to the boss arena?

[heady sand]

thanks
ehh i'm sure it's fine, just copy the prefab of an existing enemy and then remove the collision check from the player controller that's deemed unworthy

[gloomy socket]

something like, replacing the flagpole with a boss door for the player in the final lap

[heady sand]

oh right, the og has doors before the arena

argh

[gloomy socket]

lol

[heady sand]

going thru the door will just make evberything so slow

[foggy vault]

Simple

The player breaks down the door

[heady sand]

got too real

[gloomy socket]

Wait no even better,

add one of those gate thingys

like

in boss arenas, theres a gate to the next world that gets destroyed when the player beats the boss

do that, but with the laps instead, and have it lead to the boss arena

[heady sand]

oh you're so right

the things that go
|___________|

[gloomy socket]

yeyeye

[heady sand]

then it's set

also small tangent thought but i think it'll be neat if i managed to make the lapping be not a teleport, but a seamless continuation like in the looping versus maps

[gloomy socket]

that could be good

you could even do like that one castle level where choosing the wrong path loops you around and choosing the right one gets you to the next area for the boss arenas

i wonder how you'll handle the boss's player targetting and animations ....

[foggy vault]

Vic will you add Eerie and Crazee Dayzee 🙏

[heady sand]

i don kno

[wind oriole]

vic do you like dinosaurs

[heady sand]

yes i suppose

[foggy vault]

When are we reviving Goombud supremacy

[foggy vault]

this is the mod of all time

and this

[heady sand]

Great rulesets

[foggy vault]

Brown Goombud my beloved

[boreal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

I want to have more side stuff for fboc so badly

Side modes are cool, adding more stuff to the main game sucks 👯

[gloomy socket]

old vcmi.... so great.....

[heady sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141340788459044884.webp?size=32

[heady sand]

Hmmm

Hmm

[gloomy socket]

wait how would it work as a sidemode tho

would it just be certain maps designed for the bosses?

btw some boss rules

conditions:
hit boss
got the last hit on the boss (?)

actions:
heal boss (?)
kill boss (?)

[reef narwhal]

bosses in mvlo would be a nightmare

[cosmic swan]

If Done Right No it Won't
||Pssst||

[dense shadow]

my lag was incredible before

[reef narwhal]

hey Vic, how evil can you be?

could you take over the world?

destroy the sun?

[deft oasis]

Vic could NEVER BE AS EVIL AS ME RUNTS!

[heady sand]

Yeah you're right

[foggy vault]

I’m genuinely way more evil than you guys are

[gloomy socket]

scari....
music muted too....

@foggy vault my game keeps crashing 👽

[pearl garnet]

@gloomy socket hey where you going

oh game crashed

@boreal ibex

@gloomy socket

[gloomy socket]

LOL WHAT

@heady sand HUH.....

[pearl garnet]

when I was gliding off the narrow pass at the start of 1-2 it disconnected me for cheating

[foggy vault]

Bilhal vs Ivy who can host a worse lobby competition

[gloomy socket]

this happened to me too after i respawned the first time

[pearl garnet]

mf how do my lobbies compare to yours

[gloomy socket]

rap battle

bilhal vs ivy

[pearl garnet]

I don't like doing this silliness but you keep comparing so I'll say that at least mine don't glitch so frantically all the time

[pearl garnet]

that'd be fun

[fast spindle]

Me

[pearl garnet]

your lobbies are not very bad

not great but not very very bad

[foggy vault]

I'd like to see you try OTG

[foggy vault]

Birds at my school's basketball court be like

[pearl garnet]

weird analogy

but I'll take it

[heady sand]

Idk why that happens, and the menu music doesn't even come back
But creepypasta...

vcmi make goode ruleset that doesn't glitch out competitio

[supple wraith]

hey vic, hows the 1.8 porting going?

[heady sand]

Paused at the moment until i get more free time. hopefully this summer

it's going OK despite that

[supple wraith]

alright

[empty ore]

pero no le di importancia

[pearl garnet]

well all of these videos and screenshots are.... interesting

[gloomy socket]

vic you better....

[cosmic swan]

nah

Customizable Rules Better

But Both At Once, Good

[boreal ibex]

wdym customizable rules...

[reef narwhal]

we are gonna steal your house

using the power of vic

[boreal ibex]

[cosmic swan]

For Example,
Removing All 6 Time Rules
And Adding 1 Customizable Time Rule Where You Can Set It To 1-99

[heady sand]

Customizable parameters for rules are already a thing being developed for the next version, don't get mistaken

Cause yeah they're more flexible

[cosmic swan]

Kool...

[crisp flame]

switches from 10 player ice to 10 player bricks

[gloomy socket]

(?)

[cosmic swan]

WDYM

[gloomy socket]

i mean like,,

these were just old rule suggestions 🥹

the customizable rules are better but they're not related lol

(if that makes sense)

[cosmic swan]

nah

[gloomy socket]

so they're not better...?

[cosmic swan]

eh

[heady sand]

You guys gotta be more verbose with this

[gloomy socket]

vic lessons

[cosmic swan]

Nah,
You Need To Be More verbose With That Statement

[foggy vault]

vic can you please fix the invisible enemy glitch

[heady sand]

what glitch is that?

i'm almost certain you're talking about when something kills you but don't know what cause you don't see it
if it's that, then it's just a piranha plant embedded and hidden in a wall or the floor. their hitboxes are so large that it's difficult to avoid them and you're just left wondering
very annoying, very dumb, thinking of ways to correct this

[foggy vault]

ah

[reef narwhal]

vic I beg of you to add this as an emoji

[snow oriole]

i am in approval of this decsion

did i spell that right\

[gloomy socket]

decsion

[snow oriole]

yay!

[supple wraith]

vic is this true

[foggy vault]

meag drive

Than i’m eating launch instade

also yes Vic please that’s such a based emoji

[heady sand]

ok fine, fine

next version is going to take long though so don't be waiting for this

[gloomy socket]

lmao

[empty ore]

vic if u add this as like emoji

[reef narwhal]

I will be waiting for that

[sick sequoia]

wha

[foggy vault]

unrelated but why does Super Princess Peach have so many deep cut Mario enemies

it's slowly tempting me

[gloomy socket]

so true

we need wallruss in vcmi,,,,,,,,

[deft oasis]

Hi Ivy

[pearl garnet]

someone down for vcmi

[supple wraith]

hello

[pearl garnet]

hello dry texter and famous mvlo player viktor1q

[supple wraith]

hello carman

[cosmic swan]

I Hope With The Extra Customisable Rules, There Would be A Way To Set A Players State To A Specific Powerup Or Spawning Specific Powerups, & Still The Random Option

[heady sand]

There will be, things like those is the goal of adding this feature

[cosmic swan]

Woopie

[reef narwhal]

vic, when will you colab with king kitty

[heady sand]

I prefer working alone

[cosmic swan]

Ditto

[heady sand]

Salamence

[supple wraith]

Celebi

[reef narwhal]

aw

but your pure energy combined with king kitty's kindness would create the nice version of the big bang

[boreal ibex]

kindness?

[gloomy socket]

damn he gave him the doubt

[reef narwhal]

king kitty is so nice

[cosmic swan]

But I'm Also Super Critical So :P
Super Critically Nice

[heady sand]

i'm nice too

nicely critical

[empty ore]

im decent too

decently critical

[reef narwhal]

doesn't count

king kitty, Vic and frosty should colab to make the best mod ever

maybe without frosty buts that's a group decision

[cosmic swan]

what 🥹

[gloomy socket]

hu

wait but why me 🥹

is it becaus u like my mod....

[reef narwhal]

no it's amazing

[cosmic swan]

Bruh U Were Complaining Earlier Did You Forget
Silly Frosty

[reef narwhal]

one of my favorites so far

[empty ore]

and others? like, foxyyy, mibum, lust or any modder has their own talent.......

[gloomy socket]

ermmmmmm

[reef narwhal]

but you need 1% more whimsical

[gloomy socket]

im biologically whimsical

[reef narwhal]

okay

[gloomy socket]

(spanish)

so from my understanding,,

[empty ore]

%99.9

[reef narwhal]

not enough

[gloomy socket]

turnip is slightly whimsical
blucor is whimsical
im whimsical
vic is whimsical
foxy is whimsical

who else

[reef narwhal]

you go one tier below Vic and king kitty

[gloomy socket]

ivy is whimsical

[reef narwhal]

me?

[gloomy socket]

NO

actually maybe

[reef narwhal]

aw

[empty ore]

callate zomble

[cosmic swan]

Why Am I Slightly Whimsical

[reef narwhal]

I'll put you in king kitty and Vic tier if you make me whimsical

[empty ore]

bro thinks hes on the team 💀

[reef narwhal]

okay

here is my ranking of the best mods

number 1

vic

number 2

[cosmic swan]

use Blucor's Ranking Thang

[reef narwhal]

king kitty

number tree

frosted giddy

number fork

nsmbvs battle r

number uhh

five

[cosmic swan]

Why Is Vics so Low 🥺

[reef narwhal]

vic inator

🫸

you are rught

[gloomy socket]

huh why so low...

[reef narwhal]

okay fine

[gloomy socket]

move vics to the top!!!

above turnip..

above you....

[cosmic swan]

Ye

[reef narwhal]

here

[cosmic swan]

My Mod Doesn't Surpass (Most Likely?) Vics

[gloomy socket]

REMOVE THAT MAYBE

[reef narwhal]

not maybe

we love vic

[cosmic swan]

Beta5 May Surpass

[gloomy socket]

nothing will pass vcmi..

[gloomy socket]

never

[cosmic swan]

True

[reef narwhal]

if you don't get rid of the maybe

I will lower you to frosty status

[gloomy socket]

we all love vcmi

and turnip

and frosted

and uhh

battle r

[cosmic swan]

Fixed

[reef narwhal]

yes

okay

[cosmic swan]

Not yet

[gloomy socket]

guys lets play frosted frfr....

[reef narwhal]

later

my ears are too hot

[cosmic swan]

It Needs To blossom A bit more...

[gloomy socket]

bloom flo-

[cosmic swan]

Needs Time To Grow...

Like A Tree

[reef narwhal]

like turnip

[cosmic swan]

Correcto

[reef narwhal]

@heady sand what is your favorite mod

[cosmic swan]

Prob Moomoo

[reef narwhal]

top ten worse mods

[cosmic swan]

@gloomy socket @reef narwhal Lets Play Moomoo...

[reef narwhal]

number 1

[reef narwhal]

later

my ears are still warm

[reef narwhal]

negative number one

frosted in a alternate universe

[heady sand]

we gotta play the homer mod no lie

[reef narwhal]

ues

yes

[gloomy socket]

the alternate universe where i never release it

[reef narwhal]

no

[heady sand]

also vcmi really needs some life rn it's a zombie of its past self

[reef narwhal]

it's where you release it after working on it for two days

[gloomy socket]

what if you add new powerups....

(the character textures )

[cosmic swan]

Not A vcmi Thang

[heady sand]

it might be poopoo rn admit it, but i swear i'll do better just give me some itme

[reef narwhal]

I'm the Vic inator

[gloomy socket]

its not poopoo !!!!

[cosmic swan]

It's Tip Top Tier

[reef narwhal]

and frosty would instead be named melted

as his legal name

[gloomy socket]

that reminds me i was actually going to give you thee super acorn back then but probably not anymore because 1.8 😭

[reef narwhal]

and we all would say

we love melted

[cosmic swan]

#1: Vcmi
#2: KKTGLM
#3: Wonder
#4: uhhhh Frosted Spleef 👽
#5: HCM

[reef narwhal]

ew wonder

[gloomy socket]

so you only like stellar spleef in my mod and nothing else 🥺...?

[gloomy socket]

wonder is good,

but its

wayy too unbalanced

and broken

[cosmic swan]

I Like The Customization But True.