🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[gloomy socket]

the rng roll

wouldi t be set for the entire match or will it be random for EVERY action

probably the former

oh wait non o i mean this for the condition

not the action

god i can just imagine looked up .. rng roll x10

[stable path]

The condition could probably have some kind of special parameter or something

Like, rng roll will always result in a number from 0 to 100, idk

[heady sand]

each rule could have a customizable random chance for it to happen

[stable path]

Ooh!

[gloomy socket]

ooooo

[stable path]

So instead of adding the rng stuff as a condition and effect, it's going to be a parameter for every effect?

[heady sand]

yes, if that's ok

[stable path]

That's a lot better than my idea!

[heady sand]

the whole "parameters" thing is gon be a new thing for the future, so i think it makes sense to put it there

[stable path]

The only real problem I'm thinking of, which probably isn't a big deal, would be in some specific situation where someone would want the same rng roll to affect multiple things

Cuz, like, if someone does something like
If collect coin then 50% chance to disqualify
If collect coin then 50% chance to give 1up
Then chances are both are gonna roll true instead of just one of the two or something, idk

[heady sand]

huh, i suppose so

[ember cloak]

SPEAKING OF FEATURES, what about a counter system

like you could make it so if you collect a coin 5 times then it increases Counter A

and when Counter A reaches whatever then event happens

[stable path]

Oh like variables of some kind

[heady sand]

sorry, introducing variables and logic would make vcmi even more complex, which i wanna steer off of

[ember cloak]

currently to simiulate a counter you have to use the coin count, which is pretty awful since "OnCoinGet .. RemoveCoin" doesn't work

[gloomy socket]

maybe something like if a rule has 60% chance to occur, then the other rules can only have at max 40% chance
not sure if im explaining it well, idk what words sob

[stable path]

Yeah I think variables is a bit much

[ember cloak]

I don't really like this at all

I want an even playing field, I don't like RNG filled matches

[stable path]

Too bad, you're playing mvlo

[gloomy socket]

👽

[ember cloak]

MvLO doesn't really use non-influced RNG. Both Star Spawns and Powerup Chances are influenced RNG

at least with those RNG elements I know what will happen next

[stable path]

If Counter = 0 and if running then knockback
If Counter = 0 and if running then Counter decrement by 1
If Counter < 100 and if not running then Counter increment by 1

[ember cloak]

For your LYING FACE how about this
Powerup Chances, I just look at my star count.
Star Spawns, I just know the star spawn logic being it cannot spawn in the same spot unless all star spots are deactivated, and it cannot spawn in a spot that's 300 units within a player

just rng for any rule is a bit meh for me

[stable path]

Every coin collected will roll for a 1% chance of any and every effect to take place

Each roll is unique per rule

[ember cloak]

what?

[stable path]

Read closely

[ember cloak]

I don't get this, RNG is not complex, yet a counting system which would be VERY VERY useful is?

[ember cloak]

1% chance of any and every? WHAT

do you mean "n/m" where n is the effect and m is number of effects in that category?

[stable path]

No man

[ember cloak]

and are you suggesting I cannot read?

[stable path]

Every effect gets rolled for once

With a 1% chance of it happening

[heady sand]

yeah it is

[ember cloak]

what?

[gloomy socket]

not sure if i understood properly but what he means is that when the rng roll action happens, it can choose one out of all the rules and due to the amount of rules it'd be 1% for each

or maybe he was giving an example

[ember cloak]

then that's kinda awful then. Like if there's a 1% chance of the effect to be rolled, then why have it be RNG based at all...

[stable path]

It goes through every effect

Rolls once per effect

[ember cloak]

especially if that thing is something that takes a lot of time to happen like star get

[stable path]

And picks the ones that succeed

[pearl garnet]

shimoishi

what is it now

what is the basis of this new analysis

[ember cloak]

I'm not shimoishi

[pearl garnet]

fine

I forget it cause it is in your name tho

[gloomy socket]

h

[ember cloak]

I cannot understand a thing the RNG 1% guy is saying

[pearl garnet]

what the fuck

no name?

[heady sand]

meet the rng 1% guy

[pearl garnet]

I wanna meet TAS irl he's so cool

[heady sand]

totally ass-kicking speedrunner

[gloomy socket]

i kinda got lost there too 💔

vic do u accept map suggestions

race map suggestions

[heady sand]

ye

[ember cloak]

I have a normal suggestion though, simple, normal, nothing weird. A die option on the menu

specifically for race maps

[heady sand]

aight

[ember cloak]

cannot forget this

[gloomy socket]

found the best hiding spot in 3-B 💯💯

tbh

but this might quite alter speedrunning in 3-b tho

[random ocean]

RNG not complex?

[ember cloak]

that's apparently the logic

[stable path]

The way vic is going to implement it, from what I understand, is a percentage for every single effect

But adding variables is deadass just asking for a programming language at this point

[ember cloak]

LUA MOD

[gloomy socket]

mvlo with lua !?!??!?!?

[ember cloak]

if I ever create a Lua version, then we're gonna have the worst matches ever made

if player.name == "SMG4" then game:win() end

maybe I should make it so only SPECIAL people can actually add mods

but on the other hand, I doubt one of those deathmatch 1 coin Mario only Pipes kiddies will know a thing of what you can do

[heady sand]

yea lua modding would just give people the ability to make a whole ass new game out of mvlo

which is funny

[reef narwhal]

hi vic what do you think of chocolate

[heady sand]

it's ok

[reef narwhal]

fr same

what do you think of candy in general

[gloomy socket]

tf does windowing have that makes it so if fullscreen it doesnt crash but even 1 pixel of resizing window crashes it

although i used the ingame option for fullscreen

[gloomy socket]

vic incase u want to use smth else instead of maybe sky garden or smth for sky

i thiiiink u gotta change some instruments tho,,,

[heady sand]

I'm a glutton I'll be honest

[heady sand]

Can't hear it on phone but thx!

[heady sand]

I don't stinking know!! Like I made no change to that as far as I know... One guess is that it might be a graphics driver issue on your end

Also what volume now?

[gloomy socket]

title screen (chijo) 🔥💯

(yes bandicam)

[ember cloak]

chijo means ground...

[gloomy socket]

ye lo,,, chijo and chijou_cont are used as main menu soundtracks sort of

[ember cloak]

I'd just say "TITLE"

[gloomy socket]

asdgfhginj

[gloomy socket]

wait i didnt even notice that wtf 😭😭😭

[ember cloak]

Actually come to think of it, Giddy Sky is more of an "Athretic" stage

[reef narwhal]

athretic

[tulip knoll]

engrish

[gloomy socket]

this vcmi chat is so hectic i couldnt imagine the vc

@quiet arrow i told u to remove harmed freeze 💔

[visual lodge]

just got into the game is this good

[quiet arrow]

YIPPEE

[heady sand]

Dude's out for blood 🔥 (that rule does nothing 🧊)

[red mantle]

it's a distraction rule to hide other rules

[gloomy socket]

wait why is died kill allowed but not died freeze 🥹

[red mantle]

you can't kill an already dead player

[heady sand]

I don no lemme ask the developer

[red mantle]

goo luk wit that

[gloomy socket]

actualy i think died freeze might softlock u,,,,

or not

oh wait

died freeze what actually does would probably be teleport you back to where you were when u died

[gloomy socket]

@heady sand were u singing smbw overworld

@heady sand game crashed sob

tell the others im afk

ill join up later

[heady sand]

In chat? Yep lol

Aight later

Thanks for that match guys, it was very tense and entertaining
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1067091100671688806.webp?size=32

[gloomy socket]

frozen vs is so peak

[heady sand]

Save it up

[gloomy socket]

yup

[heady sand]

How we feeling about a "blocks give random powerup instead of progressive" special effect
Right now normal blocks give out a mushroom or fire flower depending on your state. This would make them all act as a red block or as the powerup you get after coining yourself up

On another news, I've added the possibility to post rulesets in the forum channel of the shenanies server, so share away!

[gloomy socket]

this would actually be good for a lot of stuff

(dont quote me on that i just think it'd be nice to have)

[heady sand]

Got that idea right as we were playing this last match

Esp with the custom pup chances, for hide and seek too...

[gloomy socket]

damn

wait will the small bonus blocks be affected by the powerup chances

[heady sand]

They already are

Since they use the same rng roll as the coin powerups

[gloomy socket]

ohhhh

wait thats actually good tho damn

[heady sand]

It's this way in vanilla too, I think it's p clever design

[gloomy socket]

hey how about

[heady sand]

Not bad... Not bad

Could go into that funny haha category with things like bouncy player

[gloomy socket]

(im joking)

wait i just though of some sort of ''hidden players'' special effect

not actually invisible, but rather, everyone displays as the same character (except for you) and you can only see their silhouettes

i kinda got this idea since u can see urself with ingame objects when ur behind terrain lol

[heady sand]

Hm, what could this be used for?

[gloomy socket]

thats the issue 💔

it cuold make up for sillier hide n seek

but idk what else besides that so

[tulip knoll]

@silver sigil end game

[gloomy socket]

damn i remember this

that was a really glitchy match

there were so many enemies, so many people softlocked

the bullet bills stopped displaying and now only the fog appears so it looks like if theres fog all over the screen covering what you see

hey that sounds like a funni special effect

[gloomy socket]

nooooo vic's server died to the shutdown

[spare swift]

what shutdown

[gloomy socket]

not shutdown
i mean discord is being kinda stinky rn

[spare swift]

oh wait i see it now

[reef narwhal]

wait what

vic server?

[heady sand]

It's back now dw
I couldn't even open discord this whole time sob

[reef narwhal]

hi vic what is a vic server

[reef narwhal]

please let me join it (i only play vics mod for 4 hours once a week)

[heady sand]

Amongjs

[gloomy socket]

oh

oopers

@ ubby

[heady sand]

Nah dw i Hope ice block zombie Saw It though

Gboard why did you feel the need to capitalize those three words??

[reef narwhal]

dm it to me

man I hate when discord takes five centuries to send a message

[heady sand]

I wonder what would happen if I put that link in the forum's first message at the top

The message would get blocked alongside the entire forum
Oh no

[reef narwhal]

vics mod being erased (nooooo)

[gloomy socket]

uh oh

hey if we have give mega, why not give starman?

[reef narwhal]

Mario kart rule

[heady sand]

hey give that back?

[stable path]

!!!!!

New object?!?!?!

[reef narwhal]

broozer really is gotta brooze

[stable path]

Wait I say this jokingly but it sounds like something nintendo would add

Okay so hear me out

[reef narwhal]

no

jk

[stable path]

A question block that can be picked up and thrown

When it collides, it opens up and drops something

Idk if it breaks or if it turns into a pickable brown block afterwards

But that's the idea!!

[heady sand]

yeah i can totally see that

[stable path]

I'm not suggesting it for you to add mind you, I just had the idea on the spot and I wanted to say it

It's probably something I could use actually

[reef narwhal]

its so christmas today

@heady sand say merry christmas 🎅

[gloomy socket]

WAIT HUH????

WHAT ARE U COOKING

[gloomy socket]

tru

[gloomy socket]

shoots out coins

or acts like a pow block /j

[silver sigil]

give me your server salamence guy

[gloomy socket]

what is this lol

[ember cloak]

Me waiting for ver11 just to be able to use effects like teleport:

[gloomy socket]

i see you're a teleport fan. you're gonna enjoy this

[ember cloak]

Nope, Host only

Doesn't work for other players unfortunately

[gloomy socket]

yeah, this ruleset was made in .09

[ember cloak]

Coin Atsume breaks

In Coin Atsume I like to have players teleport on the same frame as respawn

[gloomy socket]

bumped into... random teleport
bumped into.. spawn enemy
bumped into.. harm
bumped into.. knoockbac

star on a random spot, player on a random spot, enemy on a random spot

[gloomy socket]

what does atsume mean btw (assuming its a japanese word which it kinda sounds like)

[ember cloak]

simple rules, you collect coins to win. If you reach the goal you're disqualified (since it resets the level)

In .9 version I simply made this by having coin = star

Why? Since you couldn't see other player's coin counts

[stable path]

No because then it would be a gimmick tied to new soup 2 🤢

[stable path]

Also no because it's not a pow block wtf...... 🥹

[empty ore]

u cant kill person6425 for some reason

the game doesnt load da game over when he reach the 0 lives

he can have li -1 or -2 lives

[ember cloak]

that happens if you have the onDeath .. kill

since you lose 2 lives instead of 1

[gloomy socket]

(if you die while having 0 lives)

[ember cloak]

wrong

[reef narwhal]

unless you're a cat with 9 lives

[craggy iris]

press up= spawn powerup

or tp

[craggy iris]

1 life is last life
0 life is death
-1 life is no lives

so yea theyre probably on -1

[silver sigil]

@heady sand

[heady sand]

Oh no

Where was this btw lol

[silver sigil]

dms

he friended me for no reason whatsoever

[heady sand]

I see I see

[tardy sentinel]

he mistook you as vic

[gloomy socket]

the guy sadly wasnt at the times kazzik said ''vic/vik, not to be confused with vik/vic'' 💔

[silver sigil]

wait

ye

he thinks im the creator of vics mod

[gloomy socket]

huh

ghost ping?

[craggy iris]

vik about to perform misinformation

[heady sand]

Make sure to promise a lot of things that would never happen

[ember cloak]

vik is gonna add Wario

[gloomy socket]

@silver sigil will you 🥺

[silver sigil]

ok

[tulip knoll]

Wait..

i just realised

where is the beach vs level

[gloomy socket]

what beach vs level

[tulip knoll]

the [c] beach level

[spare swift]

vic i has question

[gloomy socket]

huh

vcmi had a beach level?

[tulip knoll]

has no one made a beach themed versus level?

[spare swift]

does the music add onto itself based on placement

[gloomy socket]

i dont think so

[spare swift]

hi

[gloomy socket]

oh yeah miibumm's

[tulip knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pou-sad-cry-shower-plush-gif-9035760200285102054

i wanted to cook :(

[gloomy socket]

but it isnt in vcmi

so

vic needs his permission to add it if he wants

[tulip knoll]

[heady sand]

i haven't added any maps in this update, and there aren't any beach themed versus levels right now

[heady sand]

nope, music doesn't change based on placement (although it'd be cool ig...)
it only "morphs" if spectating or actively playing

[tulip knoll]

can i make a beach level for vcmi?

[heady sand]

sure!

[tulip knoll]

🥳

[gloomy socket]

can i make wonder race levels 🥺

[heady sand]

kmongder

yea why not

[spare swift]

viccccccccccccccccccccccc

[gloomy socket]

VIC LISTEN TO THIS MAN RIGHT NOW

spiny shell

[spare swift]

yeah that

[gloomy socket]

from mario kart

for races

[spare swift]

yeah

[deft oasis]

Umba seven student w

[heady sand]

what! but how would it work...

[ember cloak]

for races, I wish there was just a better respawn system, like maybe a 1 second respawn instead of waiting like 6 seconds

[spare swift]

obviously check for lap placement

but also level placement

i guess

[heady sand]

i meant how would it work for the user, since it's not a powerup but a one-use thingy

have it spawn from coins, then store it in a dedicated reserve until they wanna shoot it?

[gloomy socket]

i think just sort of like

get it from coin then it just launches

[gloomy socket]

oh wait nvmyeah thats good

[heady sand]

oh, insntantly? well sure

[gloomy socket]

nononono

reserve is better

[spare swift]

blue yourself in mvl

[heady sand]

should it use the same reverve as the rest of the items?

[heady sand]

can't wait for ppl who accidentally use it on themselves and can't cancel the action

[ember cloak]

"Oh whoops my hand slipped"

[ember cloak]

fun until I pick up a mushroom and it's erased

[gloomy socket]

imagine mariop kart items in vcmi racing...

[tulip knoll]

[gloomy socket]

asduidfjghdfklghdf

soft lock

WHAT

[craggy iris]

truest

[gloomy socket]

@heady sand wtffff

what was that u added

[ember cloak]

WHAT

[heady sand]

what? what did i add?

[gloomy socket]

nothing lol

it was that timer thingy

i didnt expect that

[heady sand]

ohh the loading timeout thing! yeah in case players like these joined, so the loading wouldn't last forever!

[gloomy socket]

smart

[heady sand]

i know, i know, the spinner doesn't work when no player collisions. i'm sorry, will be fixed next time

[tulip knoll]

Mario enjoys a nice mountain view

[gloomy socket]

oh my god

the lag

help

game crashed 👽

[heady sand]

so how we feelin about making respawning shorter in races?

[gloomy socket]

sounds good

tbh racing could really use a lot of changes
i think a good one is adding new items that could assist you into getting back to the lead

[heady sand]

set in stone thing or t*ggleable
also, should it be an option for versus too?

[heady sand]

i agree, i'd be very interested in hearing them some time

[gloomy socket]

ye

[heady sand]

ok well i'll just add it as an option to the very bottom of the settings, it'll be on by default during races though... i think

argh or wait idk how exactly to implement it, i'll think about it at another time lol

[ionic zinc]

NOOOOOOOOO

LET ME IN

[gloomy socket]

i think maybe like
making it so that if u choose a race map it turns on, but u can turn it off

[ionic zinc]

mii bumm let me in pls

[gloomy socket]

lobby is full sob

@spare swift btw forgot about uhh

[ionic zinc]

i left for 1 second

[gloomy socket]

hide players from minimap

[ionic zinc]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wait i got it

lets goo

[gloomy socket]

oh wait nvm

[ionic zinc]

WHYYYY

[gloomy socket]

traye join back

miibumm thought i left

lol

@ionic zinc

[ionic zinc]

i got banned

D:

[gloomy socket]

oh

[tulip knoll]

[gloomy socket]

try again

[ionic zinc]

unban pls

[tulip knoll]

Progress!

[spare swift]

i did

[ionic zinc]

im still banned

[spare swift]

i unbanned you tho

[gloomy socket]

try joining me again

[ionic zinc]

still says same thing

[gloomy socket]

huh

it says unknown player traye 7

[ionic zinc]

what?

[gloomy socket]

i tried unbanning

it said unknown player traye7

eve nthough i typed Traye7

[ionic zinc]

:(

[gloomy socket]

sorry 😔

[ionic zinc]

do u have to unban the id?

[gloomy socket]

i made anotherl obby

join

i was thinking of a flood effect but the idea i had is kinda similar to low gravity

u arent swimming or anything but rather anything inside the water is just slow

ur walking slow, etc

actually maybe that'd work and just have the normal player physics

u have to spam jump to get up, etc

and getting knocked back just pushes you down

@heady sand omg that ice ball

LOL

[heady sand]

boowomp

i got too comfortable in there

[snow oriole]

lobby full
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1130800998403809331.gif?size=48&name=NoOoOo&quality=lossless

[gloomy socket]

this lobby became the wonder lobby with the waiting line 👽

[heady sand]

there are other lobbies too i think which is neat...

[snow oriole]

yeah there are

[gloomy socket]

mods been quite active today

hi penguin

HOWWWWW

btw players showing on the minimap if u joined as spectator in hide n seek is nice lol

[heady sand]

zamn everything is in ruins

[tulip knoll]

oh nahh

yall are playing h&s without mee

[gloomy socket]

theres literally a whole waiting line 😭

[tulip knoll]

WHAT

[heady sand]

a spot opened up :) i needa get some sleep

[gloomy socket]

theres 2 spots

@tulip knoll @snow oriole

[snow oriole]

also frosty check dms

[gloomy socket]

o

[tulip knoll]

realll

[snow oriole]

alos how do you put custom music into the game?

also*

ohhhhhhhh

i see

[gloomy socket]

that reminds me i need to update my pack 👽

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of donuts

[heady sand]

Sick trick on how to get any song in a music pack:
Put the entire song as the sole "instrument" on a soundfont
Make a midi play a single note on said "instrument"
Enjoy full song :thumbs:

[heady sand]

Did they explain it to you?

[gloomy socket]

i was acctually gonna do that omg

i was gonna get the music, and export the samples in openmpt

[heady sand]

Tasty. I'll get some later this week because thanks for reminding me

[heady sand]

Yee great, I really hope it works

[gloomy socket]

then just open up something like midi eitor and bam

wait does that mean no music will play if u disqualify

bc of the channels muting

i mean its not a big deal but yea

[heady sand]

That's kinda indeed the case, yea
I mean if you manage to get the instrument on one of the channels that don't get muted, you'll be fine

[snow oriole]

IM SO DUMB

FUCK ME

[gloomy socket]

huh wha

👽

[snow oriole]

i hit flag

i th=ought i would spawn at the beginning

😭

somebody killed host

omfg

[tulip knoll]

2 spots are free

[stable path]

I knew I shouldn't have quit it!

There are people out there who vik confuse with vic and vic confuse with vik....

https://tenor.com/view/phineasandferb-disney-candace-ashleytisdale-sick-gif-18594638

[heady sand]

Perry the teenage girl

[gloomy socket]

i read that as penny and thought of warioware

gonna try the single track thing for music

hopefully it works

[reef narwhal]

vic should there be a day in vcmi where everyone is named vic

(bad idea)

[heady sand]

No (identity theft is a Serious Matter)

[gloomy socket]

white border and black text tag

sounds good

[gloomy socket]

first up:

[tulip knoll]

u sure?

[tulip knoll]

[reef narwhal]

so true vic

[gloomy socket]

IT WORKS

YOOOOOO

[tulip knoll]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HE COOKED

[gloomy socket]

🙏🙏🙏

it sounds slow because i messed ups ome things on the midi and maybe some stuff on the soundfont but other than that atleast it works!!!!!

cant wait to have the whole spp ost here 💯

this is so goooooooooooooooood

okay the looping breaks when the track ends but just extending the midi fixes it so yeahh

we can have 100% custom music 💯

[gloomy socket]

i feel like vcmi racing could very well just make use of every MK item

[gloomy socket]

(and kma ost)

[tulip knoll]

[gloomy socket]

hehehehaw

[tulip knoll]

Can you please add the kirby superstar invincibility music? 🥺

[gloomy socket]

sure

which superstar tho

ultra or snes

[tulip knoll]

snes

[gloomy socket]

alr

gimme a moment tho im doing smth rn

and by something i mean..

omg i can use the kirby mass attack invincibility theme now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmEY_aflh5s 🔥

[deft oasis]

Use Unrivaled Size

[gloomy socket]

wait thats not it

💔

i used unrivaled size for mega

where tf is the unused theme

[deft oasis]

I have two unused songs

[gloomy socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xVi1zywiHU this

[deft oasis]

My favorite songs in the ost as of now are Pinball Play and Showdown

It sounds like Sonic act 1 and act 2 music

[gloomy socket]

pinball play goes crazy hard tho

[gloomy socket]

bro a fucking spanish ad played and i thought it was the file

[deft oasis]

Showdown is like the act 2 version of Pinball Play

[gloomy socket]

@tulip knoll are u able to join me in vcmi

[gloomy socket]

frrr

[ember cloak]

I'm gonna make some crap in vcmi

[gloomy socket]

what kind of crap 🤔

@tulip knoll

if u want it here u go !!

[tulip knoll]

WE ARE SO BACK!!

(thank you so much)

[gloomy socket]

np 👍

mmmmm wat music to replace

[ember cloak]

BRO

I think I'm going to have WAY MORE FUN fucking with Vic's code then actually playing it

[gloomy socket]

mfw i have to restart over 10 times just to get chijo main menu music

[gloomy socket]

getting this to work was way harder than it should've of 💔

whats really good about this soundfont method for custom music is that u can manually set the loop very easily

since ur editing the soundfont and not the midi

[tulip knoll]

i have the olde vcmi

[ember cloak]

me

yours were modified later then mine :P

[tulip knoll]

[ember cloak]

erm actually it's clearly athretic

[gloomy socket]

shut up 💔

[ember cloak]

athretic athretic athretic athretic

that's not a chijou stage to me

[gloomy socket]

wai wha 🥹

i was talking abt this

its one of the themes that plays on the main menu

[ember cloak]

I thought you were talking about Giddy Sky

[gloomy socket]

oh

i mean......

[ember cloak]

ewwwwwwww

it's ATHRETIC

ATHRETIC GIDDY SKY

[gloomy socket]

sure, here it is 👍

[ember cloak]

now add the "GIDDY SKY" to it

[gloomy socket]

no because its on use

[ember cloak]

yes, force it to add it

[gloomy socket]

i don know how to,,,,

[ember cloak]

restart your computer, FULLY

first thing go there, then add the GIDDY SKY

you better add that giddy sky, I will use my spyware to see if you did

if you didn't I'm deleting your system32

[gloomy socket]

😨

ok im doing it...

[ember cloak]

Good

That's how it should be

[tulip knoll]

not today

[gloomy socket]

hu

lying face...

@empty ore i keep getting timeouts so im just gonna go

its late anyways

cya

[reef narwhal]

ice flower addict is so addicted to vic the game breaks

nah wdym ❔it's facts

[heady sand]

what a Serious Patter

[heady sand]

Since this is a ds game there's most likely a midi one could rip and use
But great job nonetheless, what a banger lol

[heady sand]

I should totally remove my name from this mod's name

[tulip knoll]

Noooo

dont

[heady sand]

I don't know why I put it there in the first place lmao
It's also funny how everyone calls it "the vic mod"

[gloomy socket]

i have to rely on FLACs and WAVs tho so it take up lot of space.....

[deft oasis]

That's just how MvL mods are named

Cubby Mod, Vic Mod, HyperCat Mod, Ivy Mod

[heady sand]

Yea you're right...

[gloomy socket]

frosty mod /j

blustik ports

miibumm mod

[deft oasis]

Yeah MiiBumm Mod too

Also God damn almost 100 tar reacts

Congrats Vic

[gloomy socket]

!!!

[quiet summit]

ahem that’s not final yet lol

[gloomy socket]

ai vee uai mod

[random ocean]

thought I killed the 21 after approaching the last star coin without a mushroom lol

[gloomy socket]

i just thought, how about some sort of enemy changing system? like the power ups

that'cd prob be annoying to code though

[gloomy socket]

like say you do koopa and everything else 0 then the spawn enemy rule will only spawn koopas and non koopa enemies on the level will either be removed or replaced with koopas

i dont think it'd bring much utility though,,,

[gloomy socket]

since its the whole track and not a single instrument

[heady sand]

Thank you, I'm flattered by the support

[heady sand]

Oh i see. It's an interesting concept
Definitely doable, but we gotta know if it'll be truly useful

[gloomy socket]

how about one of these for background fr (from spp)

actually its prolly not fitting

[reef narwhal]

vic are you feeling jolly today

[gloomy socket]

vicmas

[tulip knoll]

vimas

[reef narwhal]

vmas

[gloomy socket]

blue swwitch u should use this for beach background fr

oh wait thats giddy sky

nvm

one of these

or both

[tulip knoll]

maybe

[clear yew]

it is not available for Android...yet

[gloomy socket]

it already is-

[clear yew]

oh

i went to itch . io one not the github

[heady sand]

the itch.io has a link to the android version too, check the last one highlighted in pink

[gloomy socket]

vic i have a very very great idea

(i just need to think of it first)

[heady sand]

hope this works for you

[clear yew]

Alright

ima download it now

[gloomy socket]

okay vic heres the idea

anti knockback effect 👍

if u stomp someone u can get a star out of them but they can still move

[sick sequoia]

i have a bug that all race maps and 3-5 battle map are covered ( blue yellow green ) colors

the web one , not browser

[ember cloak]

NSMBVS Wonder has that, and it's broken af

I can freeze someone, throw them against a wall, freeze them again, throw them at a wall, again again again

[gloomy socket]

with jet run yeah lol

i got the idea because of it

[gloomy socket]

what?

idnt web and browser the same

isnt*

[sick sequoia]

so u didnt even listen to me

[clear yew]

a jet run? How's that gonna work

[sick sequoia]

ok compare for these two

[silver sigil]

@heady sand
time to ping him again

[tardy sentinel]

there was literally no reason

to ping

[tulip knoll]

this looks sick wtf

[ember cloak]

bro it looks like the stage is gonna puke on you

[ember cloak]

I played one match with you and you left

[tulip knoll]

bruh

vic and vik are often confused

vic always has the rainbowname, so it should not be possible to mistake viktor1q for vic

[heady sand]

it's a strange uncommon graphical bug due to your hardware. please try this version instead: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059200579924148245/1178470296060186664/win64mono.zip?ex=657642fd&is=6563cdfd&hm=62c4d8873709bc452bee494f98add3b5103f35747963b2c6f9b55f58346f9579&

[snow oriole]

List of good hide and seek maps
7-5

( i really need a list of these cause idk which maps to pick during h&s)

3-B can lead to some good chases and creative hiding spot

6-4

the other mountain level (forgot the level name lol)

Autumn

5-1

[reef narwhal]

pxguin is so jolly today

[snow oriole]

so real

[reef narwhal]

santer is coming to vic

[snow oriole]

i should probably just put the list in a txt file

here's the list i made, i probably missed a few

oh and yeah volcano

[reef narwhal]

Christmas list leak

[tulip knoll]

Don't forget 5-3

it's a godsend

also add 4-4

i found some weird glitch spot that makes you basically invisible

[snow oriole]

any other maps

[tulip knoll]

yes

1-2* (Low gravity)

[spare swift]

👍

[snow oriole]

@gloomy socket what song did you use for the mega theme in your music pack?

[gloomy socket]

unrivaled size
kirby mass attack

its very fitting lmao

[heady sand]

i'll have to agree, it fits like a glove and goes pretty hard

[gloomy socket]

https://youtu.be/dQ1XUh-5J-4?si=8_svWwUg1DNYIeJN&t=39 @snow oriole aushjdfkgh

btw it sounds kinda different bc i just found a midi on the internet and gave it ds soundfont

immm not sure if the game has the normal sseq format most ds games have cause otherwise i would've of seen more midis of it but i've barely seen any,,,,

and i would try to but my vgmtrans wont open :cry

speaking of music
should i do a tutorial for putting custom music in vcmi 🤔 (even if not many people would bother to change it)

[ember cloak]

不明なエラーがossdekasai発生しました

[gloomy socket]

or maybe fully invisible

[heady sand]

Sure, why not

[ember cloak]

erm actually vik is just vic's alt

what is the Dynamic Music logic in the mod?

[gloomy socket]

what yo cooking

[ember cloak]

meth

[reef narwhal]

man i feel like playing some vic

actually i just feel like playing some mvl

[deft oasis]

ATipodtouch0218 Pls Fix The Servers I think They Are Down Why Are They Down Why Pls Tell Me I Need To Know Why Cause I Wanna Play With My Friends At Our Sleepover ipod Pls My Mom Says That We Have 30 Mins Till Bed JUST FIX THE FUCKING SERVERS PLS!?

[reef narwhal]

such a vic custom inator moment

[gloomy socket]

hole in one!!!!

trust me its not a hole in one

i actually really like this idea of manually launching urself but the problem is the rule is triggered powerup,,,

[reef narwhal]

golfing

frosty is golf from pizza tower confirmed

[heady sand]

It's quite simple, the music just gets softer and has some channels muted while spectating

[gloomy socket]

what unity version does vcmi use 🤔

[heady sand]

same as vanilla, i don't quite remember it now but it'll say if you try to open it up using unity hub

[gloomy socket]

o okie

[heady sand]

found it, it's version 2022.1.12f1 although 2022.3.15f1 will work too
wouldn't recommend going to 2023 or further

[clear yew]

hey

i do have feedback to the mobile version

the modifiers doesn't work

And yes also the chat doesn't work

[ember cloak]

They do work, but ones like dive or teleport don't

[clear yew]

so is only like some of them work

not all of them

[ember cloak]

which version are you on?

[heady sand]

The conditions you used for them might be host-only. It's a known bug

[gloomy socket]

i've always wondered

why hosto nly?

like what causes them to be host only

[ember cloak]

I think in 10-mini they were changed to be host based not client based

[heady sand]

It's an anticheat measure put in place. I haven't figured it out completely yet so some rules still suffer from this

[ember cloak]

The host cannot do things like move other players around tho

[gloomy socket]

damn

[ember cloak]

me placing a flagpole in a normal stage

[clear yew]

17.0.10-mini

oh so some of them are host based and the rest is client based

[ember cloak]

Yeah

The "Looked" ones are host only

[clear yew]

alright I'll see

nope it didn't work

i tried +coins and it didn't work

[ember cloak]

Which condition do you have?

[clear yew]

looking

With +coins when you look at that direction

[gloomy socket]

yea looking doesnt work

only for host

[clear yew]

oh

[clear yew]

however Vic's mod is good

is pretty nice and fun

[gloomy socket]

mustard catch vic-inator

[heady sand]

Glad you like it. Hopefully some day all these limiting bugs can be gone for good

[tulip knoll]

Hear me out..

What if the "host only" conditions was a toggle?

[gloomy socket]

oooo

wait wouldnt that be teams then

or not

[tulip knoll]

I don't think so

But it would allow to conserve game modes like hide and seek or mega run

[gloomy socket]

hmm

but

team quite literally does that

if vic makes it so that certain rules affect a certain team

still tho i do agree ur idea is grea

t

[tulip knoll]

how did vic make this mod so addicting raah
i cant stop playing vcmi
(sponsored by vic)

[gloomy socket]

hi 👋

the fuck?

for some reason my game doesnt crash anymore with resizing

i mean hey im glad but why-

i didnt do any changes

nvm it just did

@tulip knoll hold on lol

ok now its crashing???

[tulip knoll]

Huh

[gloomy socket]

peak ruleset
Star Police

by @tulip knoll

[heady sand]

i needa see what that is...

[tulip knoll]

Welp, Vic saw what it is

Sadly I gtg 😔

Gtg :(

[snow oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/pou-sad-cry-shower-plush-gif-9035760200285102054

[gloomy socket]

vic, miibumm 👽

[snow oriole]

tf you mean "🤥 "

what did i do

[gloomy socket]

penguin vs pxguin

[reef narwhal]

huh

[snow oriole]

i think jollyguin will win

[gloomy socket]

vic are you about to crush someone's skull

[heady sand]

no, i don't have the need today

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of mvlo

[tulip knoll]

A big day for gaming

[gloomy socket]

vic can u give me the NSMB minigame soundfont (aka the one you use for naming rules, special effects, etc)

[reef narwhal]

i feel like playing some mvl

[clear yew]

Alright the mobile version does have the same problem with the original mvl mobile app

Is that there's not even a single person playing Vic's match-inator

The mobile version

But same thing with the computer version

[heady sand]

It's ok

[heady sand]

Depending on the time of day, it's easy for no lobbies to be open unfortunately

[heady sand]

Sorry but what do you mean?

[topaz cypress]

The mobile one sucks with the controls even no music

Like why

I think I know becuz it's hard to code for android right?

No big a button for fireing

No big b button for jump

No big joystick

[gloomy socket]

you can use a controller

i think

[heady sand]

It's not an issue with vcmi, it's just that playing platformer games on a touchscreen sucks. They weren't designed for this.
Also, there is a button for jumping and firing, and there's a joystick. It's the white circles on the left and right
Moreso, mvlo and vcmi are optimized for desktop computers and there are compatibility issues on android, thus the music is missing

[gloomy socket]

like vic said, yeah, platformers on a touchscreen are just a big no, unless the game itself was made to be used with a touchscreen, like kirby mass attack on the DS

[tulip knoll]

What is it with you and kirby mass attack geez

[gloomy socket]

i like the game !!!!!!!!

ok heres another example

uhhhh

Kirby canvas curse

👍

also another example

Lost Magic DS (bet nobody here knows what this is)

[tulip knoll]

I do >:3

[heady sand]

hello i still don't understand which soundfont you're referring to sorry

[gloomy socket]

oh i mean like

uhhh

hold on

i meant text font

not soundfont

😭

sory lol

but yeah im talking about the text font you used to name the rules and special effects when choosing them

could u give me where u got it from or the file itself

this font

[clear yew]

Tbh though the music doesn't matter much to the gameplay

all it matters is the modifiers

tbh there's not like the big joysticks and sometimes it ruins it

Instead is the d-pad

[topaz cypress]

D pad sucks

Ngl

[topaz cypress]

I tried connecting a wii mote

[clear yew]

yeah i don't think that's gonna work

[topaz cypress]

why the ping

[clear yew]

I'll usually ping

[topaz cypress]

when you reply you forget to turn @=off

[clear yew]

nope

[topaz cypress]

oh ok

[clear yew]

instead I'll just send it and not do turn@=off

[topaz cypress]

ok

...

the tablet android version i have 8.1.2

[clear yew]

me is 6.0.1

marshmallow

[gloomy socket]

that probably and most likely wouldnt work
try using something like an xbox/playstation controller

or a switch one

[topaz cypress]

dont have

[gloomy socket]

rip then

[clear yew]

alright

[silver sigil]

so what

[topaz cypress]

Idc

[silver sigil]

wow you just deleted your message

[sick sequoia]

bruh , surely he is a kiddo

[tulip knoll]

look in vcmi source code

[gloomy socket]

tf u mean ''so what'' ??

[gloomy socket]

oop

[gloomy socket]

(im saying this assuming u were replying to the ''ps5 controller'' message'')

🥹

[topaz cypress]

idc

vic i needa report somthin

[silver sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/whirow-nvm-ur-content-sucks-arcade-assassin-funny-meme-gif-1223989353800674009

[topaz cypress]

on mvlo loader custom match-intator crashes all the time

[topaz cypress]

hi nvm ur content sucks

[gloomy socket]

would replace win with

[heady sand]

i think i'm too late but here ya go

[gloomy socket]

no i still didnt have it lol thanks

accents 💔

[heady sand]

yeaa that could be an issue, this sepcific font is very limited. maybe we can find a more complete one used in the localized versions of nsmb...?
fun fact: the reason the ui shows "condition .. action" with two dots is because this stinking font doesn't have any decent arrow characters and i had to make a compromise

[gloomy socket]

💔

[tulip knoll]

Is there any way to edit fonts.

*?

[heady sand]

ye, there are programs that allow you to edit them like in a paint program

the only one i know is fontforge

[empty ore]

that sucks

[reef narwhal]

vic what is it like using unity

[quiet summit]

damn vic just one more star

[gloomy socket]

!!!!!!

[heady sand]

it's a pretty poor experience

[empty ore]

why

use unreal

or godot

or game maker

or clickteam fusion

or scratch

or game creator

or rpg maker

[gloomy socket]

i think by poor he meant bad

[red mantle]

mvlo mod loader rpg maker edition 🗣️🔥🔥

[gloomy socket]

true

[reef narwhal]

scratch just might he worse

mvl on scratch (no online)

[gloomy socket]

someone was making that actually

i think somos

he stopped tho he was working on other projects

[heady sand]

dude i already use godot as my primary game engine (and i'm loving it), but for modding mvlo i have no option but to use unity lol

[reef narwhal]

vic hates unity

confirmed

[deft oasis]

Everyone does

To be fair

[reef narwhal]

mvl hates unity confirmed

[empty ore]

unity its not that bad

ig

why y'all hate unity

u can do cool things there

[heady sand]

nah not really

[empty ore]

what

how

i need arguments

rn

[heady sand]

you can't do anything in there! !

[empty ore]

bro

[stable path]

Literally!

[empty ore]

thats skill issue 🦍 /j

[stable path]

(Someone send that one pic of unity loading for 5 years)

[heady sand]

nah i'm jk, what i'm saying is that the user experience is pretty bad compared to other products of its class

[empty ore]

o

i see

[empty ore]

really? 💀

[gloomy socket]

is it really?

damn

[red mantle]

I agree (game maker ui is easier)

[empty ore]

not for me 💀

i use clickteam fusio!!!!!!!!

[red mantle]

Maybe it's easy for me because I got used to it (or because I used it since I was 12 years old)

[deft oasis]

Crashes every other day, takes a billion years to import assets, uses a really confusing coding language leading to games being somewhat more broken

[heady sand]

it's either missing basic functionality or has multiple imperfect implementations of the same functionality

like ok i get it, i'm the programmer and i have to implement stuff
but if that thing is a thing that 90% of other developers have already had to implement, why do it all from scratch myself??
one example i can think of is music looping. can't think of other specific examples rn bu you know

[red mantle]

Make mvlo vcmi on clickteam fusion

[heady sand]

keystrokeindividual separation

[gloomy socket]

imagine if vic made vcmi on godot

[reef narwhal]

pixelated

[topaz cypress]

hi the red switch palace that gets stomped on by mario in smw

[gloomy socket]

what 🥹❔

[reef narwhal]

has Frosty cake ever played super Mario world

game theory

[gloomy socket]

yes

(didnt complete it though)

[reef narwhal]

you should

bro does not know about bowser

[empty ore]

did u guys atleas played supa mario bros ds??????????????????????????

and 2

both are peak

peak gaming

[heady sand]

what gaming

[empty ore]

yes

[gloomy socket]

@ hypercat gaming

[reef narwhal]

hi Frosty

[craggy iris]

seems like someone never had it fucking crash on your face after working for an hour

[gloomy socket]

to me so far it has never crashed

although im getting frustrated at the long importing times for small things

[empty ore]

i am patient 🧘‍♂️

[clear yew]

what's so bad about the fonts i like them

[clear yew]

wait why?

[topaz cypress]

who doesn't know about bowser

[quiet summit]

I had a dream about this mod having a character called “Evil Yoshi” and it was just a black Yoshi with red boots and a hoodie

[deft oasis]

Amazing

[tulip knoll]

Goated dream fr

[sick sequoia]

what?

[sick sequoia]

he sounds like hes kiddo

[clear yew]

oh ok

[gloomy socket]

boshi

[gloomy socket]

screw that this is a way better main menu theme (even though it says staff credits..)

[stable path]

Are we getting evil yoshi in a mod?

[quiet summit]

no :(

maybe actually

[heady sand]

Add blood and jumpscares and and

[gloomy socket]

vic are you a magicman

[heady sand]

I am not a magic

[gloomy socket]

what about magicman in computing

[heady sand]

Maybe

[reef narwhal]

vic is a computer man

[tulip knoll]

vic is a computer

[empty ore]

how u guys knows that vics mod is a computa

[tardy sentinel]

vic is pc

[empty ore]

vic is virtual system

[tardy sentinel]

hi vic

[visual lodge]

did you know?

vic is short for "nuclear bomb"

[pearl garnet]

did you know?
vic is a terrorist

[gloomy socket]

did you know?
vic is short for vicious bee

[snow oriole]

so true frosty

[gloomy socket]

vic im gonna murder your mod the moment i get my hands on it in unity /j

[heady sand]

i dare you

[empty ore]

hai vic

[tulip knoll]

I double dare you

[reef narwhal]

I triple dog dare you

[gloomy socket]

u guys

gimme a break i still need to make the sewers mashup and its annoyingb ecause of the tileset 💔

[reef narwhal]

I quadruple dog with a cherry on top dare you

[tulip knoll]

not if i do first

(Just wait until tomorrow, you’ll see.)

[static ridge]

hey vic do you plan on adding a option that hides nametags for hide and seek? it'd be pretty useful

cause currently its more of a tag

[gloomy socket]

there already is lol

OH WAIT

u mean from the scoreboard?

for the nametags above the players there already is (minimap)

[visual lodge]

what is the backstory behind this vic? Tell us!

[heady sand]

The option already exists in version 10-mini. It's at the very bottom of the lobby settings

[craggy iris]

ok im taking your dogs

[tulip knoll]

&Knuckles

[vague bison]

@heady sand trying to port to iOS, are the touch controls automatically enabled?

[heady sand]

Yes

[vague bison]

Like the dpad and stuff?

[gloomy socket]

huh

who ghost pinged br

[heady sand]

yup, all the on-screen controls (dpad, jump and action buttons, scoreboard, pause and reserve) are already implemented and appear automatically when you run the game on mobile (either native android or ios, or the webgl build running via browser on those two)

the user can also manually enable them via options → controls
see line 136 of GameManager.cs and the Utils.GetDeviceType() function, as well as the OnScreen game object in the GameManager prefab

[gloomy socket]

congrats vic on 100 (101) stars!!!!!!!!!! 👏👏👏👏

[tulip knoll]

[heady sand]

incredible stuff, thanks for the support

[visual lodge]

how about now

does this do nothing

[gloomy socket]

yeah it makes the game anything but fun

[visual lodge]

good

[silver sigil]

Spawned .. Kill Player

[visual lodge]

||Died .. Kill Player||

[tulip knoll]

Invincinble…Kill Player

[gloomy socket]

!!!!!

@ vic grant starman and got starman rules!!!

[heady sand]

Ok I'll

[gloomy socket]

mega rules but starman

[sick sequoia]

kill player .. kill player

[gloomy socket]

but u cant have an action as a condition

[tulip knoll]

Kill FrostyCake ... kill vic