🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[tardy sentinel]

salami sandwich

[reef narwhal]

burger

[heady sand]

Ham or salami cheese sandwich is a classic

Aw, Uncrustables are nowhere to be found. Maybe an obscure import shop could have it though

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of soda

[heady sand]

no.

[silver sigil]

what do you think of broccoli

[reef narwhal]

fair

[deft oasis]

Hi guys welcome back to Vic's Food Reviews

[reef narwhal]

would watch 100%

[silver sigil]

broccoli

[stable path]

Vic's Custom Snack-inator

[silver sigil]

Vic's Custom Meme-inator

[unique pulsar]

seeing as it's not happening on browser do you think it's worthwhile playing the webgl version or is it just too buggy? i know presets don't work but is there anything else i should be cautious of if i wanna play on webgl?

[molten bear]

if i may ask which one are you a fan of

woah
im blue

[unique pulsar]

i can get past the lighting bug for the most part if i wanna stay playing the windows version but rock pit just isn't playable cuz half the tiles are missing because of the lighting bug

[deft oasis]

[molten bear]

[molten bear]

get yo screenshot emote outta here

[silver sigil]

perfection

[molten bear]

you are BANNED from using iflifewasmvlin2005

[silver sigil]

i crop emojis lol

[heady sand]

it's ok. goes well with lemon

[heady sand]

WebGL works fine, I suppose. It's a bit slower and there's no music

have you tried checking your graphics drivers?

[unique pulsar]

I noticed if I tab out or minimize my ping sky rockets

Yeah my graphic driver situation is a long story but I have the most up to date

[heady sand]

yep, that's because the browser puts the tab in low performance mode to save on resources

[heady sand]

hrm, got it

[unique pulsar]

I have OpenGL4.2 and that's as new as I can get

Without getting a new graphics card that is

My fans used to get loud playing ccm but never had graphical errors, now my fans get loud playing the new version of this and i have graphical issues lol

Not sure what changed in-between versions to make my pc struggle like that, I'm not dropping frames or anything

[heady sand]

try something for me real quick, if that's ok (i'm really just blind guessing at this point)
go to the folder where the game main executable is, then just shift + right click anywhere empty in that folder. then, open the console or command prompt from the context menu that should've just opened and finally run ".\NSMBVersus vic's Custom Match-inator.exe" -force-glcore

[unique pulsar]

Ok sure not on PC but I'll get back on

[heady sand]

i changed to a different build method which is actually supposed to make the game run a tad faster, lol

[heady sand]

whenever you can

[unique pulsar]

Ah I see

Ye I'm getting on now I wasn't doing anything

[heady sand]

maybe the renderer also got set to smth different when i made that change. i'm hoping that command i sent you would force it back to what it should've been before

[heady sand]

zamn, uhhhh try with -force-d3d11 instead of the -force-glcore?

[unique pulsar]

it booted

still bugged lighting

[heady sand]

frick
well sorry, that's all i had

[unique pulsar]

my fans arent as loud though so i guess thats something

its not really an issue until i play rock pit

[deft oasis]

[unique pulsar]

i can still make out the blocks i guess but yikes

[gloomy socket]

that means you get to cheat in hide n seek !

[unique pulsar]

i suppose it does!!

[unique pulsar]

would a clone of the new update that keeps the original build method be possible to make and would it function online with people on the current build?

i only really play with friends so if a version existed with the original build method existed they'd all stick on that if it was required for us to play together, but i get that's probably more work than you should be doing also

i think i'll just play on browser for now

i cant set up d-pad on browser for some reason but rest of my controller works so i guess i have to move with joystick lol

[heady sand]

sure, give me a minute to set it up

[unique pulsar]

huge tysm

[molten bear]

cubby crazy you already responded with iflivewasmvlin2005

[heady sand]

@unique pulsar please try it out

[unique pulsar]

downloading now tyvm

[heady sand]

(did discord increase upload limits? like how did i just send a 40 mb file lol)

[gloomy socket]

server boosts

itsl vl 3 i think

[heady sand]

ooh ahh aight

[unique pulsar]

awesome that works

[heady sand]

sick. welp, have fun. everything is the same as the version everyone else has, and crossplay is enabled

[unique pulsar]

sweet tysm

[heady sand]

no probs!

[unique pulsar]

will this be available on mod loader or should i just keep this version safe

[heady sand]

I won't put it up on the mod loader, no

you mighhhttt get away with it if you "open folder" from the mod loader, and copy and replace all files in that folder with these new ones

[unique pulsar]

fair enough

oki i could try

sick that works lol

[reef narwhal]

vic would you rather fight a wizard 🧙‍♂️ or fight 5 million lions 🦁 or fight 8 billion people🤼

[heady sand]

a wizard i think, it's a bit more manageable

[reef narwhal]

smart

[gloomy socket]

i forgor to make

[gloomy socket]

um,,, i have no ideas

[deft oasis]

That was me wifi bruh

[molten bear]

oh

[gloomy socket]

no it was mine 💔

[gloomy socket]

here is jungle 2

[craggy iris]

tf are you suppossed to do when someone just fucking stands on the wall jump areas

(oh also those pits look frustrading ngl)

like their positioning

perfectly alligns with a jump into poison

[gloomy socket]

mustom catch inator

[heady sand]

btw a funny consequence of changing the music playback system is that now you can easily swap out the songs, which i think is funny (any midi or soundfont works as long as it's the correct name)
https://streamable.com/6ag6kq

[raw shuttle]

when i select the desert stage and it's the nokia arabic ringtone:

[tardy sentinel]

the pee (e!)

[spare swift]

the vic

[stable path]

I just remembered the time you shared a screenshot of customizable color palettes. Did you remove the feature or was that a different mod?

[heady sand]

customizable palettes based on a free color picker? yeah, it was a plan for vcmi that I eventually scrapped due to, well, it not being a great idea after all

the same reasons vanilla has apply to this. basically could get confused with certain powerup palettes, for some characters it might not work, visibility might get compromised... something like that is what i determined after actually thinking about it lol

it was a cool thing to imagine though

[stable path]

Hot damn, who would've guessed it was a bad idea?

Though will it still work for a custom palette thing using only predetermined colors?

For those who want to mix and match colors without being restricted to color palettes while also not being able to choose powerup colors

[heady sand]

i suppose so. So something similar to that 105 star "Colour palette overhaul" suggestion

might look into it in the future. for the time being though, i'll keep relying on ideas in here

[stable path]

Yeah it's exactly like that one, the same one ipod commented on saying he'll add it in a later update

[heady sand]

ohh, it might actually come to vanilla yea

[stable path]

That's fine either way. I simply just wanted to bring this up as it came to mind when you shared that custom music clip

[heady sand]

Ye. It was just a teaser for a short lived idea

[static ridge]

what about item toggle

i was really lookin forward to playing 99 star deathmatch in fortress with 99 lives and only mini mushroom

[heady sand]

item toggle is already added in the latest version!

[gloomy socket]

sick i can have sky with this now !!!!! (actually probably not cause sky uses the 2 normal battle themes so 💔)

[heady sand]

huh, that's actually from a DS game which means a MIDI + soundfont can be easily acquired... intriguing...

gonna have to note your idea down zamn this song is a quite catchy

[gloomy socket]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[heady sand]

sorby never playded princess peach so it never crossed my mind, and i had to look up where this song was from...

[gloomy socket]

fair enough lol, the game isnt really noticed much

popped up a lil bit a few months ago since alpharad streamed it

the ost is 🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPnKpOuUGw&pp=ygUMZnVyeSB2b2xjYW5v wish i had a midi of this....

[heady sand]

daamn, i'm seeing SPP actually uses a different format for music for which we don't have tools to extract yet! shucks

[gloomy socket]

yep, need to manuallly remake em

[heady sand]

forum posts mentioning this range from 2013 all the way to a couple of months ago

i'm bummed

[gloomy socket]

rest in pepperonis

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of pizza

[static ridge]

this was my reaction when i wanted to rip the maps from ridge racer ds

[gloomy socket]

i wonder why spp used another format instead of the normal sseq

soundtrack is so good yet so hard to rip 😔

[vagrant surge]

perfect timing on the first death

[gloomy socket]

hi mustard custominator

[heady sand]

hello øħ“~øˀ@ø¢[ſŋ@#[þ@¡'t

[tardy sentinel]

hi vic

[reef narwhal]

hi vic what's your thoughts on French toast

[heady sand]

Strangely delicious. Better if made by Mother or Father

[gloomy socket]

TRUE

parent toast ❤️

[reef narwhal]

way too true

[vagrant surge]

you could probably do that with oggs if you also put the data in the streamingassets too

[raw shuttle]

I prefer French toast sliced, just like the French monarchy (fact: France still is an absolute monarchy)

[heady sand]

Yup, makes sense

[empty ore]

did vics remove star coins?

bc i cant see the option for turn on them lol

[reef narwhal]

vic what are your thoughts on soup

[heady sand]

Yes, you can't enable them anymore because they were bugged. They still are in the levels though, and the "got star coin" condition still exists

[heady sand]

There are many types of soup, but in general it's ok

[tough schooner]

lmao why it used to work

[heady sand]

Made a lot of changes to the music that introduced some incompatibilities

You should play the downloadable version instead if you can, it's better anyway

[silver sigil]

my friend cant just open the game, is there some way to fix it?

[heady sand]

What OS are you on? Windows?

[silver sigil]

windows 10

[heady sand]

Make sure he got the "win64" version, and extract all the files inside the zip to another place like the desktop
Try not to move or rename any of those files, they have to stay together

Tell me if an error window appears

[silver sigil]

it appears some sorta of error windows

looks like a crash

[heady sand]

Does it say anything in that window?

[silver sigil]

its just the name of the exe and the icon with a loading bar below

nothing more

[heady sand]

Aight
I think he didn't extract all the files from the zip

Everything in the zip has to be out of there and kept together
Including the .exe, the .dll and the "data" folder

I see you can run the game, so make your friend do the exact same steps and it should work

[silver sigil]

yeah he extracted all the files into a folder

[heady sand]

Ok sooo it might be their hardware, tell him to try this version https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059200579924148245/1178470296060186664/win64mono.zip?ex=657642fd&is=6563cdfd&hm=62c4d8873709bc452bee494f98add3b5103f35747963b2c6f9b55f58346f9579&

Don't worry, cross play is enabled

[gloomy socket]

vic the program magician

[silver sigil]

thank you, gotta see if it works

yep it worked! tysm

[heady sand]

Hell yea, happy to hear that. Have fun!

[reef narwhal]

crashed vics match inator

or closed itself I love chaotic rulesets

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of pancakes and waffles

[heady sand]

Tasty and versatile

[quiet summit]

we don’t talk about Mapno no no no

we don’t talk about Mapno

[craggy iris]

fbe when the map they asked to add gets added

[quiet summit]

True

[heady sand]

speaking of spoons
i think the fact emotes can only be triggered from the keyboard is hella inconvinient
so what button combinations should a gamepad trigger them then? not a lot of possibilities cause not enough buttons but
i'm thinking pressing in one of the analog triggers + one of the face buttons? hrm

[deft oasis]

I have a key on my keyboard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029625542972031047/1177771671306911794/IMG_20231124_190907.jpg

[heady sand]

how convenient, almost as if it was planned

i don't have that, only a uh plane and a chocolate tablet

[heady sand]

i envisioned smth like this, which can get up to 12 combinations, plenty for 10 emotes
hope the vid is clear enough

[craggy iris]

this is so me when i Alt + Numpad1

[static ridge]

☺

[fossil basalt]

is that me or there is no music in the game?

[gloomy socket]

web and linux builds have no music

vic (i think) said that due to some library incompatibility with the new music playback theres no music on the web and linux versions

so rip

[pearl garnet]

oh hello vic

[heady sand]

Yes, what Frosty Cake (Festive Hollibunch) said is true. I couldn't find a library for the Linux and web builds for the new music playback system. I recommend downloading the windows version, it has better compatibility and performance anyway

[pearl garnet]

probably because you yourself developed it on windows

[fossil basalt]

im on the windows version

and there is no music

[heady sand]

Huh really? Then it might be an issue on your end, there should be music. Check the volume in Options or Settings

[pearl garnet]

maybe your control panel too

[fossil basalt]

i already checked

[heady sand]

The plugin I used for midi playback in Unity didn't include the dependencies for Linux, only windows and macos so sob

[fossil basalt]

i guess its just me

[heady sand]

Very weird. Sorry about that

[fossil basalt]

its okay its just the music

the mod is very good

i enjoy it

[heady sand]

Thanks, happy to hear that!

[fossil basalt]

u welcome !

[heady sand]

One more question, are you playing the game on itch.io or have you downloaded it from GitHub?

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of burgers

[gloomy socket]

dont talk about mapno......
not a word about mapno.......

[heady sand]

They're ok

[gloomy socket]

we dont talk about vlco_o no no no no...
we dont talk about vlco_o............

[heady sand]

Who's that guy huh

[reef narwhal]

who is vclo

[fossil basalt]

i download it from GitHub

[gloomy socket]

#1177315528335953971 message vic are u a star coin 🤔

[heady sand]

no...

[tardy sentinel]

stop hiding the truth from us

we caught you red handed

[heady sand]

hrmpf!

[reef narwhal]

reveal yourself star coin

the jig is up @heady sand

[gloomy socket]

look! he even has a star coin next to his name!

[cinder tangle]

@heady sand may i

use your autumn tileset

please

❤️

[tardy sentinel]

thats a question for steve (maker of autumn level)

[heady sand]

Uh sure I suppose, Steve made it though not me

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of Pop tarts

me personally I just think they taste meh

[heady sand]

never had one because i don't live in the us of a and they aren't sold in here!

[pearl garnet]

they aren't sold here either

[gloomy socket]

same

[gloomy socket]

🔄

i have a great idea, vic prepare to be amazed /j

[gloomy socket]

[old citrus]

me when I turn into Mario (eww) even though I wanted to play as peak fiction (Dry Bones)

(also this is a fun one, I like it)

[gloomy socket]

that actually isnt the purpose of it lol
although......

[old citrus]

oh no is this swap player positions??
That's even more awesome

[gloomy socket]

yep lol

this is a suggestion tho so it up to vic if he want to add it

[static ridge]

what if there are 3 players

or 1 player

[gloomy socket]

well

it was kinda discussed

it'd be either 2 random players swap
everyone in the lobby swaps
or the player who triggered the rule and another random one swaps

so far the 3rd one seems the best

• teams

[reef narwhal]

wario is peak fiction wdym

[stable path]

That's not wario

[stable path]

In order to avoid further confusion, I think the icon should be changed to have the bros overlayed where I drew the circles

[cinder tangle]

me flying over lava:

[stable path]

And maybe add a black silhouette or dotted outline where they were originally standing or something

[gloomy socket]

will do that when i can
and should the arrows be in the corners or smth? or just removed

[heady sand]

Don't worry we can all be peak fiction

Btw thanks for the rule suggestions, I'm listening even though I don't actively comment

[reef narwhal]

vic is vic

vic is the true vic of them all ✨✨

vic is a match inator

[static ridge]

@lucid locust

he said the thing!

[stable path]

They can be moved to the side of the plumbers

Something like this maybe

[sick sequoia]

swap player power up will be insane

[heady sand]

Oh goodness you're right... Oh no

[static ridge]

swap player pressed up

[gloomy socket]

😭

at this point it should just be different swap actions for different things

[gloomy socket]

love this new design, thanks kazzik

i feel like the name is what makes it confusing but oh well 👽

1x3

[gloomy socket]

time to cook

[spark moss]

HOLY SHIT

the battle we've been waiting for

[heady sand]

"which side are you on"

[gloomy socket]

so true

[gloomy socket]

took a while cause i had to do a fair amount of uneccesary edits due to me being dumb

[gloomy socket]

me having mini and someone with mega and i jus bop, swap

[gloomy socket]

if only it was possible

it'd probably break the game anyways if it was possible

wait is it possible 🤔

[reef narwhal]

it would be hard to switch entire maps

[heady sand]

gosh oh me oh my, it technically is possible. Basically "restart" the match in a different level while "bringing over" all the stats, objects, properties...

[reef narwhal]

oh no

[heady sand]

but having this rule feels like nuh uh

[reef narwhal]

if you breathe you teleport to fortress

[heady sand]

what i'm saying is that you gotta justify your suggestion 👽

[reef narwhal]

that's why vic never adds Vic to vics custom match inator made by Vic

[heady sand]

vic's you can't customize anything

inator

it's just a play button that plops you in grassland, 10 stars, 8 coins, mario only. what a funny and hilarious aprils fool joke huh

[reef narwhal]

I miss the old very glitchy freeze rule

where it teleports the player to Wyoming

[heady sand]

i admit it was funny, but i'm also glad it's fixed (is it fixed?)

[reef narwhal]

yea

I played with the freeze rule it doesn't spawn infinite ice

how to solve world hunger

[gloomy socket]

wait which freeze glitch

where you're stuck in ice forever?

cause that became a thing (again) on .10 mini

[stable path]

YES IT LOOKS SO AWEOMSE!!

[stable path]

Imagine during a round the peach powerups screen appears completely disrupting the game, and when the match starts again, everyone respawns but they keep their powerups, stars, coins, ect...

[gloomy socket]

vic is visco 🤔

[heady sand]

ha roo roo

[gloomy socket]

slope killed my momentum and made me step on goombrat

💔

[reef narwhal]

@heady sand add arbys as a enemy

[heady sand]

we have the meaty

[reef narwhal]

Arby's food keeps blowing up

https://youtu.be/AXLgHHbFgDk?si=MZd0Du1vW81M1RY1

Arby's

[gloomy socket]

@heady sand i crashed sob

@static ridge uhhh ur host sob

i disconnected

[static ridge]

what

im not even playing, im adding knuckles to pizza tower

[gloomy socket]

NOW MY GAME CRASHED AGAIN DFGDFJKGKDFH

oh

[gloomy socket]

ur not the ground beef in this lobby nvm

sorry

[static ridge]

wrong ground beef

[reef narwhal]

mf can NOT stop sobbing

[heady sand]

Then who was the ground beef in the lobby... Such a mystery it is

[gloomy socket]

prob clyde

[reef narwhal]

goob theory

the 1 dollar budget game theory

[reef narwhal]

vic add pizza tower is a playable character

using it forces you to buy pizza tower✨

[stable path]

For all of these exchange effects, I feel like the original "swap positions" texture could still be used but move the players back to where the sillhouettes were and add whatever icon to the position the out of frame beos were in

If that makes sense

[gloomy socket]

yeah that makes sense, since some rules have the same icon but different functionality

[stable path]

The reason I bring this up though is because a pet peeve of mine is when there's multiple variants of seemingly the same thing but the icon changes what it is in ways that seem unecessary

[stable path]

Like this for example, I see no reason to make a new arrow sprite and take new ingame screenshots

The switch course icon makes sense. You don't need any players to portray what the effect does

[gloomy socket]

i think powerup makes sense too
star is only it really
if i come up with other exchange type effects then maybe ill do that

[stable path]

But this icon reuses the arrows from the positions icon and changes the screenshots in an admittely cool way, but it just makes me question even more why you changed the arrows for this third one

[gloomy socket]

nvm

[stable path]

Actually scratch what I said here abouy the screenshots. I think those can be changed to be different maps and positions maybe?

OH

OH OH OH OH

[gloomy socket]

wait

[stable path]

What you could do for these icons is have mario and luigi stand on red and green platforms respectively like you've done so far, but for the swap positions icon, you should have them stand on opposite platforms

[gloomy socket]

hmm

i might redo some or each of these to make em look better
doing it tmr tho since i need to sleep

thanks though

gn

[stable path]

Damn ok!

Goodnight 🤝

[reef narwhal]

sleep 22 hours a day

don't let the bed bugs fright

[quiet summit]

meag drive

[heady sand]

Nindendo Ds

[quiet summit]

True

Does someone have that image of Duarte saying meag drive or smth

It’s funny

[heady sand]

I gotchu

[quiet summit]

Amazing

Thank you

I love how he didn’t even get the name right

this gives me a horrible idea

actually nah

[reef narwhal]

meag drige

[gloomy socket]

meat drive

[static ridge]

ground beef

[deft oasis]

Seson Screable

[gloomy socket]

sibling scramble

[heady sand]

Huge Navigate

[gloomy socket]

midgit is a way too fun badge

[heady sand]

Badges? What badges? We don't need no stinking BADGES

[gloomy socket]

oh wait wrong thread

👽

hey vic what if midgit was a special effect

jk

[tardy sentinel]

i read that as "hey what if vic is midget"

[heady sand]

What does that badge even do, btw?

Oh wait it's the tiny-izer isn't it? Hrm

[gloomy socket]

yea

the one that puts you on the small effect permanently

[sick sequoia]

it became mini mario but its not that good i mean i did practise today with some awsome skill but my relationship is 50/50

[gloomy socket]

with p1/p2

this is giving me mad m&l vibes 👽

[gloomy socket]

oh yeah i should prolly outline the bros

what's outlined is what's being swapped

👍

[heady sand]

Thief powerup

(thx for the icons!9

[gloomy socket]

i think u could prob do em better cause i had to rescale it to 61x64 so yea lol
consider those icons the idea of them, but if u want to use those

[quiet summit]

ooooh Switch Course

that sounds really interesting

will it be like the Smash feature literally nobody plays with but I like?

[stable path]

I love Dickord

[stable path]

Oh I see it now

When I said red and green platforms, I was talking about the mushroom platforms you were using the entire time 🥹

[stable path]

These ones are a lot better now though!

I do kinda regret telling you to use the same ingame screenshot for all of them though

[gloomy socket]

yeah i was thinking of that aswell lol

i think the old powerup is better

star should stay the same though

i have em backed up tho so no worries

[stable path]

Star should stay the same, powerups can stay the same too but revert the ingame screenshots, and just bring back the mushroom platforms for swap positions since I didn't mean make you replace them with M&L blocks

[gloomy socket]

by revert the screenshots, do you mean put mario on the top right and luigi on the bottom left?
or make them face the other way?

oh wait you mean the old screenshots?

so basically just use this one

ah wait

the arrows

i see

[quiet summit]

I can't believe they're finally adding the ? Mushroom

[gloomy socket]

good thing i always make backups of these 👍👍

[gloomy socket]

so true

i think it'd make more sense if i made the P numbers be in the corners like in the star one so illl do that aswell

[stable path]

Yes!

This is good! Leave it as is 🥺

[gloomy socket]

but what about the arrow placement !!!

just move the arrows closer to the flowers,,,,

actually nvm

that'd hide the bros

yeah thats good enough

so its just the swap one left

swap positions

[stable path]

Correct!

[gloomy socket]

would it be better to use these 2 together or use 2 separate ones

(as in, mario standing on the red one and luigi on the green one)

ill try both and see how it turns out

[stable path]

These ones work, sure

[spare swift]

wario on one and wario on the other

[gloomy socket]

true

[stable path]

But for the sake of really demonstrating that teleportation idea, you could also use a different red mushroom, preferably one that doesn't have a stem behind it, to make it look like they're much further away

[gloomy socket]

his eyes 😭

[stable path]

JESUS CHRIST

[silver sigil]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

WHAT IS THAT

GET THAT SHIT AWAY FROM ME

[gloomy socket]

sacrifice one
eyeless mario or lying face

[reef narwhal]

me after forgetting to sleep ( I can't think of anything to make)

[gloomy socket]

how about this

moved the arrows closer and a lil further down

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of scrambled eggs

[heady sand]

Cheap, simple, tasty. Sometimes goes well with cheese...

Eggs, such versatility. Just move them a bit differently in the pan and ??? suddenly you've got a different dish

What a time to be alive

You do be creating a perfect model of my preferences though, you'll get to know me better than Google 👽

[gloomy socket]

aighty this should be it

the final icons

ui mocking up goes crazy

[vagrant surge]

swap players and switch course sounds insane lol

[static ridge]

switch course after causing so many softlocks and issues and lag:

[stable path]

Oh that's really good!

I didn't think of making them both visible on both screenshots

The new icons look so SABROSO!

[gloomy socket]

swap players is more normal tbh
switch course i just did it as a joke lol

making that a rule would just break the game so nu uh

well, assuming people do it like looked up ..switch course

maybe if there were some blacklists...

but even then getting it to work would be a pain so still no

no pressure on vic 🙏

[reef narwhal]

I can't wait

[gloomy socket]

got powerup... swap powerup

got star.. exchange stars

wait wouldnt that crash the game

[reef narwhal]

would be way too funny

so I hope not

please Vic add this

with a cherry on top

[ember cloak]

cool mod but

[gloomy socket]

how the-

[ember cloak]

coin battle ruleset

this was previous version

[gloomy socket]

what if i install the android apk in mod loader while on windows

[stable path]

It does not work!

Idk why it shows up but I did it by accident!!

The mod loader doesn't boot up anything and has an error saying something about not finding an .exe or something

[gloomy socket]

damn

ooo shiny!

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of tacos

[tardy sentinel]

hi vic

[craggy iris]

"release me"

[heady sand]

Nah... shell is too hard... Contents fall off... Burritos better

[heady sand]

These two rules are very interesante...

[heady sand]

I might be overusing the ellipsis

[craggy iris]

facts

[static ridge]

no but the problem with burritos is that if you dont wrap it properly, everything falls out

thats why nachos would be considered the best way to eat tacos

cause then nothing falls off

[heady sand]

Even if you properly wrap a taco, stuff will fall out because it's designed to be open

🌮

See those sides?

Plus if you chomp on it, there's a possibility it cracks and falls apart! What a mess!

[pearl garnet]

very mod stuff

[gloomy socket]

if i put a midi and a sf named BGM_VS_STAGE in streamingassets and get rid of the old one, the old one will be gone and it'll only play the new one if the game chooses to play bgm_vs right?

[heady sand]

Yes, the music will be replaced by the file you put in there. It will use the sound font with the same name ending in .sf2, but you can replace that file as well

The main menu song uses parts of the CHIJOU and CHIJOU_CONT, so beware of that I guess lol

[gloomy socket]

oop

[heady sand]

Can't wait to see what songs you exchange :thumbs:

[gloomy socket]

quality vs music

wait no, i dont mean quality against music, i mean a very and totally quality VERSUS music!!!

[gloomy socket]

im surprised it decently loops here
btw how does that work? (the looping)

[heady sand]

Howww funky

[heady sand]

The loop points are "hardcoded" based on the original tracks. So I guess you got lucky with this one coinciding lol

[gloomy socket]

damn

[heady sand]

If the BPM is similar and keeping in mind many of these tracks start looping after 4 or 8 beats, I can see it working well

[gloomy socket]

o hi there

[gloomy socket]

time to see how this one works then 👽

[gloomy socket]

why is tik tok clock in the files lol

whats it used for

[static ridge]

vic should add a jukebox to the game

[gloomy socket]

although it'd DEFINETELY make for a good vs music

[static ridge]

you can play your own .mp3 files

[gloomy socket]

baby park too wgat

[heady sand]

Those two are unused as of now, I was experimenting with having them as the bonus and or sky themes, but I wasn't feeling it...

vcmi page in TCRF when?
jk jk

[red mantle]

Very relatable, with the "(No responde)" and everything

[gloomy socket]

baby park is a great fit for bonus
for sky i think maybe that one gba retro track in mkds

it was like vine sky or something idk

but it had vines

and it was in the sky

SKY GARDEN

yeah that one

[red mantle]

Sky Garden so good they brought it back in mk8dx bcp

[heady sand]

Aight, will keep in mind

I was unsure but ye

[gloomy socket]

(this is in my opinion btw if u think of something else or anything do what u want 🙏)

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of breakfast sausage patties

or just breakfast sausage

[heady sand]

Imagine if it was some regional only (Spanish) bug... Cause I've never experienced that sob

[heady sand]

What that

[empty ore]

wario in vics mod when

[heady sand]

Is Wario one of Bowser's minions? Yeah that's what I thought

(sorry no wario)

[empty ore]

bruhhhhhhh theres no way, if there is not wario, 0/10

[heady sand]

Zamn, this will greatly affect my income

[reef narwhal]

nvm

what do you think of pizza

[reef narwhal]

I hate vics inator now. -556/10 no wario

[heady sand]

How can I not like it, so cheesy and juicy
Favourites: pepperoni or chicken or tuna and onion

[reef narwhal]

oo chicken on pizza sounds interesting

[gloomy socket]

the ultimate recipe

[reef narwhal]

Frosty cake more like dry pie

[tardy sentinel]

have you put corn on it

[heady sand]

Yes, I've tried that. It's ok

[quaint socket]

[stable path]

If stomped then permafreeze

[gloomy socket]

no actually vic gave the better idea of making it a special effect
but that just proves what you just said

[gloomy socket]

thank you vic for this super awesome feature

im getting real lucky with the looping lol

wish it could play the latter half of the music tho

i replaced the yoshi falls one so could it be the different music?

[reef narwhal]

huh

[heady sand]

Gosh that theme sounds so good
I do notice the incorrect looping though, aw...

[heady sand]

Jungle (and desert) have a small chance of playing the generic VS theme instead of their unique ones

[gloomy socket]

o

[gloomy socket]

so close aaaaaaaaaa

[empty ore]

what text font are u using

[gloomy socket]

super mario ds

[empty ore]

thx

[gloomy socket]

imagine if...

[heady sand]

A mvl remix of that track

[gloomy socket]

sewers by vincells:

[heady sand]

!

But no midi...

[gloomy socket]

asduhdfgklj

[gloomy socket]

realized i can just make the midis well over 11, maybe 15, maybe even 25 mins long and dont have to worry about the looping 👍

[heady sand]

Splendid

Smart idea, that way you bypass the built in looping system

[ember cloak]

"I was playing a 99 star match and suddenly the song broke and stopped looping"

[heady sand]

Well it would actually loop after that time too

Would only work for most, not all songs though. Some tracks also have a specific "loop end point"

[reef narwhal]

add the dentist as a playable character

[gloomy socket]

dentist vic

[ember cloak]

Mario Galaxy the loop points are actually part of the midi

they're marked as "back to' sections

[deft oasis]

Snowgrave*

[gloomy socket]

TRUE

[gloomy socket]

what 😭

i got timeout and it showed up this

[reef narwhal]

🎿

[normal peak]

Map: Map Name 🎿

[gloomy socket]

does he know 💔

huh!??!

[reef narwhal]

you can't

[gloomy socket]

👽

[reef narwhal]

@heady sand are you Frosty cake

[gloomy socket]

thought it'd share this if anyone wants it
theres a text file telling you the contents of it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nKVPAbS1mhNBsgBbOYtEMR3knwLcaiLc/view?usp=sharing

mainly sharing this cos of gabriel and someone else but if anyone else actually wants it then lol

[stable path]

You're sharing this to gabriel?! 😭

[gloomy socket]

no

👽

someone in the lobby wanted it

and gabriel joinedi n the middle of teh convo and just uh yeah

[reef narwhal]

the jig is up @gloomy socket you are vic

it's facts wdym 🤥

[tulip knoll]

We are arguing way too much

[gloomy socket]

no idea whats even happening

i swear this lobby is cursed with less playtime and more unrelated stuff

[reef narwhal]

where can i join in

nvm

[gloomy socket]

i did an oopsie

i forgot to remove players from minimap

👽

[empty ore]

HOLY SHIT I APPEAR IN THE IMAGE

[empty ore]

frosta

i dont understand anything

[gloomy socket]

hi

[empty ore]

fr

what are we doing

[gloomy socket]

basically as hider u need to survive the 3 mins
the seeker is whoever is host
u can etiher hind behind the props (trees, bushes, etc) or run away if u get found

[empty ore]

mini map:

https://tenor.com/view/man-costume-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-26288387

o wait nvm

fernanfloo

chorizo and carajo

[gloomy socket]

@empty ore i mean for wonder mod ig u could say im a level designer lol

[empty ore]

thats why i ask

cool pipes level btw

[tulip knoll]

Bro

vics just crashed

[gloomy socket]

rejoin

we waiting for u

[tulip knoll]

i did

[gloomy socket]

also @empty ore this is the music thing i meant

[empty ore]

@gloomy socket press down = dive 🦍

[gloomy socket]

@reef narwhal IM SO SORRY

😭

i was the one who froze u 👽

[reef narwhal]

I hope your birthday goes horribly wrong

[empty ore]

i dont get it

[reef narwhal]

(in a nice way)

jk

[empty ore]

wifi issues

[static ridge]

this made me think of sonic & knuckles in Sonic 2

[empty ore]

me too

we are the same person...

[gloomy socket]

sonic fandom 🔥

[gloomy socket]

damn i realized i messed up smb2 overworld REALLY badly

hol up

[reef narwhal]

just like your mom

[heady sand]

Nuhuh...

[vernal cargo]

@heady sand my b for ping, having an issue running this on mac

[heady sand]

What's the problem?

[vernal cargo]

app cant be opened

running the latest version, if that helps (macOS 13.6.1)

[silver sigil]

i have never used mac

[vernal cargo]

@heady sand nvm, default zip opener is trash trying its best

thanks for the quick response tho, have a nice day (i like da work)

[heady sand]

Oh, maybe try another one. You must extract the vcmi.app outta the zip before opening it

[heady sand]

Nice, enjoy

[tulip knoll]

on that good cuh alcohol 🗣️ 🔥 ‼️

[gloomy socket]

@heady sand huh

they said they're on an acer laptop and download the windows version from the github

someone in the lobby also has an acer laptop and has it downloaded and it works

so not sure

[reef narwhal]

I got de stores (bro wha)

[empty ore]

ice block zombie from pvz real

[reef narwhal]

adventure

[heady sand]

they might be using hardware that's too old

[reef narwhal]

vic what do you think of sandwiches

[heady sand]

they're ok

[gloomy socket]

i forgot mega and starman are switched if you die while they're playing 👽

[empty ore]

u guys are still playing??

[gloomy socket]

no

i just took this clip earlier

[tulip knoll]

How did you change the music?

[gloomy socket]

vcmi folder, streamingassets

u can only use midis tho

no mp3s and etc

[tulip knoll]

oh

[gloomy socket]

if the music doesnt play its most likely due to the soundfont
sometimes if u dont change the soundfont it can just not even make a sound since the soundfonts in there have very little instruments used in the original tracks

[tulip knoll]

Which sequence is the star theme?

[heady sand]

MINIMUTEKI

[gloomy socket]

im assuming all sequences are named in japanese and mean something lol

like wth is chijou cont

or kazan soto

[heady sand]

they are indeed in japanese. that's what the original developers named them like!

fun fact: they made a silly typo when naming this one midi from sm64ds

the muteki means invincible, and the mini is because that rendition of the theme comes from the minigames section of nsmb ds
it was so fun discovering the meaning of these lil things lol

[gloomy socket]

damn

is there a way to select measures and copy them in midieditor

or do u have to copy all the notes by selecting them

[ember cloak]

kinda makes sense tho, アスレチック a th (su becomes th) ti (alternate romanization) re and then cu (alternate romanization)

[gloomy socket]

nvm i can just scrollwheel down

nvm i cannot

[gloomy socket]

vic for the midi channel mute thing did you edit the parts of the midi or does the game just mute random channels

[heady sand]

the game mutes specific channels. it was based on the original tracks and it won't coincide if you rep`lace em

[sick sequoia]

can u add dark screen in special rules

its very cool to put it

[gloomy socket]

i see

[sick sequoia]

it works with hidenseek

[gloomy socket]

in spectating it does lol, a lil bit

[sick sequoia]

that we are playing right now

👽

[ember cloak]

these are all different versions of "Coin Battles", 1 and 2 were made before you could see coin count.
If you reach the goal you are disqualified since we don't want you respawning everything for other players

[heady sand]

i updated web right when i released the desktop builds @gloomy socket

[gloomy socket]

oh

[heady sand]

or maaybe some hours later

[gloomy socket]

yeah web is broken

cant seek

doesnt have powerup chances

lol

[heady sand]

what!

so like the option is not there? gond dawn i gotta check that out lol, sorry

[gloomy socket]

nop, i checked myself too

the option is there

[heady sand]

i lasted so little this second match sob

[reef narwhal]

Micheal vsauce here vic is so wholesome...or is he

[ember cloak]

bro unused rules can be generated through random creation

[tardy sentinel]

whar

[empty ore]

vic why some tracks are weird

[ember cloak]

because

MIDI

honestly, I wish main mvlo used midi too

[empty ore]

o

i see

[ember cloak]

imagine the dynamic music that could be in the original

[heady sand]

dynamic music, when you're spectating the song gets softer

[ember cloak]

it doesn't actually require midi though for dynamic music

rule incompatibility be weird

[heady sand]

the ones that are forbidden have strong consequences like hanging the game, that's why they've been removed

[ember cloak]

so On Knockback .. Knockback is hanging, but On Knockback .. Hard Knockback is fine

how is Dive fine too

[heady sand]

i'm not sure, i added those a long time ago

[ember cloak]

they don't flap anymore :(

[gloomy socket]

did everyone leave the lobby i had to go for a moment

[heady sand]

domino effect skull
i gotta grab some dinner, everyone else kinda left too

[gloomy socket]

is it possible to modify the game's sprites n stuff without having to go to unity and compiling ur own version

[heady sand]

Naw, it doesn't go that far unfort

custom texture pack support when?

[gloomy socket]

oh?

it'd need stuff like a set tho

cause of animations like

? block

[gloomy socket]

maybe like

@ember cloak game crash

well

gonna takke a break anyways, been playing for a while now

and by break i mean mess around even more with the music

[lavish tundra]

Hi

[gloomy socket]

!!!!

now add my sewer level alongside it !

[gloomy socket]

hey vincells what do you think if u made giddy sky with ds soundfont

[lavish tundra]

what if i didnt

[gloomy socket]

then nop

[lavish tundra]

also just as a bonus since ive made the midi already heres general midi instruments sewer

[ember cloak]

I've made the midi posts wav file

[lavish tundra]

(scroll up)

[gloomy socket]

h

[silver sigil]

new super bros 5!?!?!??!?!!???!?!?

[gloomy socket]

wait, did this structure always have that one brick in the corner?????

[reef narwhal]

cause it did your mom

😂😂😂😂

[gloomy socket]

nu uh

[heady sand]

thank you so much

[tulip knoll]

what if i did

[gloomy socket]

DO IT

🙏

or just make a midi

👍

[reef narwhal]

I wonder

[heady sand]

I am absolutely certain

[lavish tundra]

it gave me an excuse to figure out soundfont editing more so

[gloomy socket]

im not sure if im sure

[lavish tundra]

slightly improved midi

[tardy sentinel]

is vic adding sewer map

[heady sand]

I'm adding the entire world

[lavish tundra]

google earth

[craggy iris]

fire

as in im burning

help

[tardy sentinel]

oh ok

hi vic

[ember cloak]

Move out of the way, I'm gonna make a midi

[gloomy socket]

h

[ember cloak]

Also. Wouldn't it be possible to have "bah" work by simply checking if the "bah" track has a note

[gloomy socket]

what if the bah is from another soundfont /j

[ember cloak]

change which track we're checking

[heady sand]

that's indeed the first thing i tried to do, but the library i'm using has some limitations that made it too difficult to do realtime checking

it would sometimes crash in spectacular ways, very reminiscent of the gba crash sound

[heady sand]

delightfully stereo

[gloomy socket]

ster eo

[pearl garnet]

my headphones enjoyed this

[gloomy socket]

small bonuses ruleset

[stable path]

My heart

[gloomy socket]

why do we get the ability to hard reset while spectating 🥹

[ember cloak]

to fuck other players

[gloomy socket]

(it breaks ur game)

[static ridge]

number 1 reason why vic should add sex to this mod

[lucid locust]

wait a minute. didn't i suggest this that one time?

👍

[molten bear]

@gloomy socket WHY

[gloomy socket]

@silver sigil WGH DID U GET IN MY WAY

[silver sigil]

get trolled

[gloomy socket]

DFGKJDFGHJKDFHGDFKJGHDFJKGH

[gloomy socket]

😭

grrrr

[silver sigil]

for setting up the rules lmfao

[gloomy socket]

👽

they funni tho...

[silver sigil]

to troll you so bad

[gloomy socket]

@molten bear 👽

[ember cloak]

which library are you using?

[heady sand]

the fluidmidi unity asset

[ember cloak]

there's no other midi asset?

Like you can't even speed up the music with fluidmidi

[heady sand]

you can speed up the music with it

[ember cloak]

OH

I'm an idiot

lol

don't take that out of context

[gloomy socket]

👽

[heady sand]

lil music pack i made, everything is in "minor" key
perfect for those extra sad days when Player3495 has put on 282 rules again

[ember cloak]

this makes me so depressed on how wrong it sounds, I'm literally crying 😭

[gloomy socket]

fr 👽

overworld is crazy tho

[heady sand]

the second half really gets on fire, it translated quite well lol

[gloomy socket]

is there an easy way that i can combine a midi and a soundfont and then the instruments the midi uses from that soundfont, export them as a soundfont?
this is just to reduce the space the music pack takes

[ember cloak]

what?

[gloomy socket]

i dont think i worded myself properly

[ember cloak]

no

you can't, why would you want to export it as a soundfont anyways?

[gloomy socket]

i just said why lol

but yeah

[ember cloak]

it would be larger, a music pack that only changes the seqeuences without instruments doesn't need a new sf2

also

you can just change the instruments manually

[heady sand]

you can't combine a midi and a soundfont. i don't even think there's an automated way to "trim down" a sf based on what a midi uses out of it. i've tried doing so with the original music but all methods had to be manual. since the nsmb ds sfs are small it wasn't that hard, but your mileage may vary. there are some great sf editors out there, iiii don't remember the name of the one i used

[ember cloak]

there could be a global soundfont

[gloomy socket]

o fair enough

[ember cloak]

Mario 64 does a "global soundfont" too. Where there's all the instruments and sequences declare which instruments of that giant pack are used

[heady sand]

so tldr yes you can but it's manual work lol

yeah, sad that nsmb is not like that
vcmi is also not like that, each song has a soundfont assigned to it and you can't make one single global one without duplicating it, sorby

[gloomy socket]

nah its fine dw

[ember cloak]

you could actually

if there's a global soundfont

just change the instruments

[lavish tundra]

you can use polyphone but you have to do it manually

you just remove any instrument not used in the midi then click a button to remove unused samples

[ember cloak]

I still don't think it's worth the trouble

especially considering that midis are already very small compared to bigass flacs (vincells) and lossy mp3s

[lavish tundra]

midis are small but soundfonts can be big

so removing the unused samples from the soundfont is definitely worth the trouble

[heady sand]

yee that's the name of the program, i remember now

it was kinda worth it to trim off a couple tens of megabytes from the vcmi build, so

[lavish tundra]

i had to use polyphone to add the smb2 bongo to the sf2 so while i had it open i trimmed out unneccessary samples too

[gloomy socket]

hmm ill look at that program sometime then, thanks

[gloomy socket]

this ruleset is very silly in races

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994954668167934012/1183912413012168807/NSMBVersus__vics_Custom_Match-inator_2023-12-11_19-09-21.mp4?ex=658a0f5b&is=65779a5b&hm=04272566e7103b3b4e029917e4e6ca11cec20d470e0c3634db48206225eb0815& 👽

[tulip knoll]

The tie of all time

[pearl garnet]

oh yeah you wanted us to remind you of that castle trying

thing*

but we all forgot

[heady sand]

goofy lil idea: an online ruleset repository where you can share, browse and vote on rulesets...
nah... or...?

i guess a public google drive folder will work equally as good lol

[reef narwhal]

I wanted to but uhm

[ember cloak]

Who's gonna pay for it

[tulip knoll]

Please do this

[sick sequoia]

reverse move (left right) ⬅️ ➡️ as an special rule

[snow oriole]

inverted controls as a special rule

oooooooooooo

[sick sequoia]

troll mode incoming!!!!!

[heady sand]

it's free dw

[stable path]

Holy hell this is really holy hell this is really hell this really is holy is hell this really hell is holy hell this is really this hell is hell is really

Really cool! ☺️

[heady sand]

Zamn fr? Then it might happen in the end...

[tulip knoll]

[gloomy socket]

oh that would be cool actually

[lavish tundra]

the game would go viral

[gloomy socket]

true

online vcmi

wait but vcmi is already online

[half mesa]

Is there a version for android

Bk I use android

[heady sand]

Yes, it's under the rest of the downloads

get this apk https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/latest/download/android-vcmi.apk

[gloomy socket]

more vcmi music pack 🤔

[sick sequoia]

mapno 4 : mario land overworld song

that could be cool

[gloomy socket]

wait yeah, what even is the midi for mapno's music?

gabriel still thinks u can easily convert an mp3 to midi 💔

[heady sand]

If only...

[heady sand]

It's something from newer smb ds I believe

[gloomy socket]

i mean the file lol

which sequence is it

[heady sand]

MINIGAME

[gloomy socket]

o

[quiet summit]

I feel like the NSMB Toad House theme might be more fitting

it is one of the songs played on the original bootleg after all

the difference is that the MIDI (and the OG song) will actually sound good and it will not sound like bowel pain like in the bootleg

[random ocean]

@heady sand where did the option to require all star coins go?

[gloomy socket]

begone

starcoins were glitchy asf

[spare swift]

tar oins are bugged

[random ocean]

?

[spare swift]

so vic removed the option

[random ocean]

sadge

[gloomy socket]

star coins were very buggy at the time, maybe he'll bring it back someday without them being as buggy

[heady sand]

true true i was like i don't have enough energy to fix this for the mini version, so out it goes

btw webgl version now has powerups too so ye

[random ocean]

another thing, mapno 4 has two really obsceurely placed star coins

the first is practically invisible

and dont even get me started on the second

like that one is literally off screen lmfao

[ember cloak]

man, must've took some inspiration from New Soup U

[lavish tundra]

all this chat about mapno 4 inspired me

[random ocean]

what is that song supposed to be?

an original?

[quiet summit]

it's one of the songs from the Sega Genesis Mario bootlegs

[random ocean]

hmm ok

never heard of it

[quiet summit]

we all know it as that

but in actuality BMB stole some songs

[lavish tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdyzORa4GUs

[gloomy socket]

hi vic

[lavish tundra]

ok its basically done, too llazy to convert it to midi rn

[quiet summit]

bravooo

[gloomy socket]

theres no way to change the win fanfare since theres no need to right?

or is it possible

[gloomy socket]

*from the game's files

[ember cloak]

I'd love to have the draw fanfare be this

[gloomy socket]

FR

why is there a green koopa in 7-5 that doesnt walk off 🥹

[reef narwhal]

vic knows how to be so true

[random ocean]

sub 20 first run

(without star coins)

[heady sand]

nope, that's just a rendered audio file that can't be changed by players

[heady sand]

gosh, where's that from?

[gloomy socket]

nsmbwii

when all players bubble

[heady sand]

o

it sounds so goofster, i like it

[lavish tundra]

trying to convert it to midi now but im having some strange issue where some of the instruments in the soundfont just wont loop outside of fl studio

i have the midi here but i cant get the soundfont to sound right on it

[gloomy socket]

ABSOLUTELY SCAMMEDDDDDDDDD

[gloomy socket]

kinda catchy tho?

[static ridge]

taken to hell 😨

[heady sand]

Get real

[heady sand]

that wasn't fully intended. firstly, the lighting makes them darker than expected, and secondly, if they would've been "enabled" they'd be shining stronger lol

[random ocean]

exactly 2 minute PB nice

[tulip knoll]

[random ocean]

first asc run

[random ocean]

huge improvement

[pearl garnet]

you saved 1/4th of the time

that is massive

1/3rd actually

[random ocean]

true

[tulip knoll]

Wait is this vic maker

[heady sand]

Maybe

[ember cloak]

WAT

YOU CAN DO THAT

[spare swift]

yeah

with the number keys

[tulip knoll]

[heady sand]

Yep, 10 whole emotes you can show your fellow mvloers while playing against them

For that extra toxicity

[quaint socket]

classyman

[gloomy socket]

u can also use em to hangout !!! (emote 1 and 3)

[pearl garnet]

awesome

I mean it already happens anyway

[gloomy socket]

huh 6-2 is just like this? mariogamer what were u thinking 🥹

[craggy iris]

4 month ago

[gloomy socket]

#mvl-media message

[ember cloak]

a link, to a link to a link to a reply

since it is four months ago, you could say "A Link to the Past"

[gloomy socket]

that rhyme tho 🔥

[ember cloak]

what rhyme?

[gloomy socket]

nah it doesnt really rhyme

but

it sounds a bit

reply and past

[stable path]

Vic vic!

[gloomy socket]

@ vicious bee

[stable path]

Add an effect that rolls funny rng and a condition that detects for funny rng succees

If got coin then rng roll
If rng roll then disqualify

[heady sand]

oohh.... yummy idea

thanks, i'll note it down

[gloomy socket]

oh?

wait how would it work tho