🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[heady sand]

idk i'm feeling insecure t

[stable path]

While I do think it might be preferable to have a category for both, if we had to pick only one, I'd say to keep it disabled

You're adding dives just to make an arbritrary challenge easier

[neat turret]

buy flichka security to secure your thoughts

[heady sand]

i mean yea you can't walljump from dive, but you can dive from walljump

[stable path]

When the whole point of said challenge is to remove an ability to make the game harder, not to replace said ability

[stable path]

Yeah, what I said!

[austere skiff]

that's what I'm saying

but the other moderators want to keep in dives

btw actually vote on this pls

[heady sand]

tbh the challenge is hard enough without dives lol

[austere skiff]

yes it's supposed to be hard

[heady sand]

been trying rightless 2-a the other day, way too... impossible? hard? dunno lol

[austere skiff]

I guess some levels are impossible otherwise cough cough AL-Jungle cough cough

[stable path]

What did they say?

Did you explain why you think it shouldn't be added?

[austere skiff]

I'm too lazy right now to scroll through the server I had the discussion in to find it but here

[stable path]

Are the mods the kinds of person who'd suggest to add sonic rush characters?

[austere skiff]

actually this is their argument summed up in one message

[stable path]

?!

[austere skiff]

basically their version of rightless is more fun to do than true rightless

(true rightless is just rightless without dives btw)

[stable path]

I'm aware, yes

But like, that's such a stupid reason though

It's a very subjective thing that normally isn't applied to basically any other challenge

[austere skiff]

yeah I know

[stable path]

Beating sm64 with the least amount of a presses, for example. You can't ask someone that you want to press the a button "just this once" because the challenge isn't fun

Like the great reggie once said, if it's not fun, why bother?

[austere skiff]

also btw what should I do with the levels that are actually impossible without dives?

Should I let those levels have dives or just leave it blank if someone manages to do it somehow

[heady sand]

I'd say leave them. You never know what bugs or tricks some may discover

[stable path]

I think they should be left blank. If someone wants to beat it with dives, then they can, but don't put it in the same category as clears without dives

[neat turret]

what server

[austere skiff]

ok so one of the other moderators wanted to change this poll to any button to dive (except right, of course)

would your answers be any different

[stable path]

Not at all, no

[austere skiff]

@neat turret

[neat turret]

no

[stable path]

No matter what button you change it to, if it results in a dive, it shouldn't be allowed

[neat turret]

^

[austere skiff]

ok rules are getting changed to not have dives anymore

also can anyone actually run rightless since you're debating the rules for it

[neat turret]

it is one and a half in the morning i am going to bed sowwy

[austere skiff]

oh ok that's fine

btw the rules for coinless also got changed a bit so instead of having a custom ruleset, you just need your coin counter to stay at 0

[hexed yacht]

Oh, btw, why does the "no enemies" condition not remove piranha plants?

[vagrant surge]

they are friends :)

[hexed yacht]

I see

[heady sand]

them being friends is a bug)

[heady sand]

Haha

[austere skiff]

I'm finally combining 10 wrs I got into 1 video

a collection of my wrs from yesterday and today

also in like half of the runs I had Specialist from Persona 4 in the background but in the other half I didn't so it's just a jarring transition

[austere skiff]

https://youtu.be/hDM3f4zn_Gk

we're almost 1st

we just need 1 more runner

also should there be a Discord server dedicated to speedrunning this game

[lucid locust]

holy crap

[austere skiff]

what is it

[lucid locust]

.

[austere skiff]

oh

yeah it's pretty cool

the 2nd most active mario fan game on speedrun.com

[mild dome]

Man maybe i do gotta make more levels

@heady sand perhaps what kinda rare levels you want

[heady sand]

wow...
Also should I really make a discord server for that? Dunno, would be cool but something concerns me

Will look into it

[raw shuttle]

sure

actually, please do

[heady sand]

Yes more AL levels would be sweet!! I've got no ideas for themes yet though... Uhh

There's this thing for a level but idk if it's worth it ↑

Also so,
How about if it's a level heavily themed after another mario game like SMW or SMW2?

[craggy iris]

MARIO FOREVER LETS GO

[mild dome]

i was thinking AL-Bonus

Theres no bonus race map

[heady sand]

True, that's not a bad idea

[mild dome]

Yea i was thinking of getting maybe 3 (so 2 more) Solid ideas and letting everyone vote between them

[wild bane]

Damn were rivaling sm63?

I didn't even know that

That's actually so cool

[craggy iris]

now it feels like vcmi has a bigger community than ccm and mvlo

[wild bane]

The sm63 community is wayyyyy bigger

But I'm getting off topic

[tulip quiver]

vcmi speedrunning is more active than mf 💀

[quiet summit]

mf 💀

[austere skiff]

I'm leaning on the side that I should make a Discord server for speedrunning this

currently there's no Discord server linked on the src page

[quiet summit]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_notable_for_speedrunning where’s Vic mod

[heady sand]

i could make a server abou vcmi in general with a speedrunning channel/section, i guess

[austere skiff]

that would be nice

[craggy iris]

💀💀

[austere skiff]

we're also 1 active player away from top 50 most active Linux games

[heady sand]

lmao, who else uses linux for it? I know I am

[austere skiff]

you're the only Linux runner

most active players includes everyone, not just Linux players

[heady sand]

oh ok, still neat

[austere skiff]

if we get 1 more player we would be tied for 44th with:
Undertale Category Extensions
Alien: Isolation
osu!
Dota 2
Minecraft: Java Edition (Unobtained)
Minecraft: Bedrock Edition Perfect Seeds
and PICO PARK

[wild bane]

wait

if a discord server for vcmi is actually made

is the server link gonna be dm'd or put here?

[tardy sentinel]

probably put here

[heady sand]

yea i'll just put it here most likely

[mild dome]

Vic im warning you making a server is big scary...

[heady sand]

I'm tatking the risk, but don't worry, i'll take good care....

[mild dome]

Noted good luck seriously running CCM server was

[deft oasis]

That's why Distancy server is friends only for now

[tardy sentinel]

good to know im a friend

[wild bane]

Yeah running a server sounds like hell

[craggy iris]

not when its inactive 👍🏻

except that server would be active

[heady sand]

i don't think many kids are speedrunning vcmi so i might be safe for now lo

[deft oasis]

True

[heady sand]

the most difficult part is thinking of an icon to assign to the server

[mild dome]

easy just draw a choppy one up and call it a day

[heady sand]

but what should i draw...

[craggy iris]

low quality luigi

[tardy sentinel]

dry bone

[wild bane]

Yoshi

[heady sand]

ah why of course

[craggy iris]

yoshi never had any relation

[wild bane]

well

ok

[mild dome]

if i was you and didnt know what to do id do somethin like this

simple but yk gets to the point

[heady sand]

true

although something weirds me out abt having text in the icon lol

[mild dome]

That makes sense yea

You could always make some type of mascot for the mod and use it

[heady sand]

Yep, the upcoming characters are strong conenders (even though not OCs)

[wild bane]

whats the dimensions for a icon again?

64x64?

[heady sand]

it says "at least 512x512"

[wild bane]

oh damn

[neat turret]

you can always upscale

[pearl garnet]

Time to enable this mod again since my return

Bam now it is in my list

thanks vic for reminding me

[pearl garnet]

sevrer (real)

[heady sand]

Cool, no probs
I think there's plenty of new content since you've last checked in on this thread

So emjoy and tell me whenever you want me to join you yes

[pearl garnet]

Are you grinding that much

[pearl garnet]

Stem gartens moment?

Damn now I get why people say inside jokes in MVLO server are bad

[tardy sentinel]

is this steam garten server really that important

what even is in the server

[heady sand]

Nah it's not a server

[tardy sentinel]

is it a group

[heady sand]

Yea you got me

[austere skiff]

not really

the only ones that I grinded for a while were 1-2 regular and 8-1 coinless

[craggy iris]

ima leave that to you

[neat turret]

leak!!!!

[tardy sentinel]

mega mega

[spare swift]

i would say make it the mod icon (the luigi) but then it’ll look to similar to star chasers server

[noble swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-jerma-gif-20911831

[spare swift]

maybe put like a little machine icon or something

for the inator part

[heady sand]

Mm that's what I feared

[tardy sentinel]

maybe a gear

[spare swift]

yeah

[neat turret]

wrench

[spare swift]

a gear would fit well

[neat turret]

onkel dane

[spare swift]

a wrench would be like a fixing thing

[tardy sentinel]

maybe a doofenshmirtz looking machine

[spare swift]

gear cog is like a settings thing

[noble swallow]

just make it a luigi but invert the way in whic it is looking at

make it look to mario

wait no

same directino as mario

[spare swift]

tar hasers

[noble swallow]

technically it wouildnt be the same

checkmate flat earthers

[spare swift]

yeah but it would be too similar

[molten bear]

my suggestion is maybe have it like the icon for mvl but with dry bones instead with gears in the back or something

[tardy sentinel]

exactly

[spare swift]

and or a flag

[molten bear]

yeah

whatever makes the most sense

[tardy sentinel]

maybe put this behind the dry bones

fuck its a png

[spare swift]

just use the one in the logo

[molten bear]

does anyone have the server icon at it's correct size

for this server

[tardy sentinel]

ipod does

[molten bear]

or star chasers that would work too

[spare swift]

its in the mod loader chat i think

[mild dome]

yea

[spare swift]

someone asked for it

[molten bear]

awesome

[tulip quiver]

what about just making it the vcmi icon (mvl icon but luigi)

[heady sand]

the dry bones with the race flag you guys mentioned sounds p good to me

[molten bear]

is this gonna be just a speedrun server?

[tardy sentinel]

either the background or the block behind the dry bones are the race flag

[wild bane]

yeah that sounds nice

[heady sand]

ehhh... mostly, but i do want to add channels abt my other mvlo stuff

[molten bear]

ok

because im still thinking whether or not i should add gears in the back

[heady sand]

sharing the invite in a sec hope it doesn't explode

[pearl garnet]

Spontaneously combust?

[molten bear]

i think im almost done with the drybones head

[heady sand]

awesome

[molten bear]

and the flags bg should be easy so im basically almost done

what do you guys think of it so far?
let me know if anything feels off

[mild dome]

Looks good to me

[heady sand]

looks nice!

oh hm, is the back of the eye a bit wider than normal?

[molten bear]

didn't do much fixing up but does this look a little closer to normal?

[heady sand]

ye that's what I was thinking

[molten bear]

i really wanna get this right because i feel i might be seeing it alot

just saying

(also thank you)

[heady sand]

true
no probs + thank you for going ahead and drawing this

[pearl garnet]

Can you come now vic

and gg grape

[molten bear]

what

[heady sand]

sorry i'm coding big things

[pearl garnet]

Wdym what

I said ggs

[molten bear]

gg for what

[pearl garnet]

alright sotrry

sorry*

[pearl garnet]

The dry bones drawing

[molten bear]

oooo

[molten bear]

oh

[wild bane]

That looks nice

[heady sand]

OK I guess it's time, server's more or less done, here's the invite
Mostly for speedrunning this mod, but you can also talk about other mvlo stuff, very neat
https://discord.gg/cKgE8dsV7t
some parts of it are still temporary

[heady sand]

All done, if you wish you can link it up there

[austere skiff]

ok

[heady sand]

ughhh, this is gonna be a long day
manual weight painting, here i come

[pearl garnet]

What's this

[heady sand]

creating the poses for the new characters' models

the automatic porocess failed so i have to go and do it myself

[pearl garnet]

Good luck

[heady sand]

thankies

[pearl garnet]

wilkommen

[heady sand]

this dude's so weird, where does its head and torso start and end

(ignore the poorly mapped textures)

[spare swift]

just make it really big maybe

[heady sand]

yea, I ended up having the head bone be more than half of the model

i'll have to see how it ends up appearing ingame

[pearl garnet]

Is that like a boozer?

Or some sort?

[heady sand]

yes it's broozer as it appears in nsmb ds

[heady sand]

again, the material mapping wasn't set up yet in that screenshot sos

Also, they changed up its design in later games

[deft oasis]

I did manual for every character

[heady sand]

Oh... I can see why, the auto one doesn't work like at all

brrr i'm sorry for what you had to go thru

[deft oasis]

It's fine lol

It only takes like 30 minutes max to weight paint a character

[molten bear]

who took the longest

[deft oasis]

Baldi

[craggy iris]

knew it

[tardy sentinel]

creepypasta

[deft oasis]

<Level Name>

[tardy sentinel]

i got disconnected

[craggy iris]

privacy is bad

[spark moss]

Bomb

[wild bane]

ayyyyy

[stable path]

GANAMOS!

[austere skiff]

let's go

most active mario fan game on src

btw if you didn't notice there's a server for vic stuff

and it also has a speedrun channel

[craggy iris]

please update me on mf

[spare swift]

vic you have your own separate build on the same version for dry bones right

[heady sand]

no, it's the same build but dry bones was available to rainbows only

[spare swift]

can you teach me how to make something like that

cus i’m trying to do the same thing

[neat turret]

vic magic

magvic?

[heady sand]

sure, but the way i implemented it is ugly as heck cause it was only for temporary testing

what i did was, when changing the value in the character dropdown, it'd ignore that value and set it to bones instead if the current player had a rainbow name

[spare swift]

so it would replace another character

[heady sand]

yes

Oh, something important is to not add that character to the dropdown in the ui so it remains hidden for others

[random ocean]

hot damn, sm63 1st place at 11 active runners!!!

also sm63 says 10 now

so technically vics IS 1st

tied with sm63

[heady sand]

only thing left now is to match sm63's 2 thousand runs

(only 1970 more to go!!)

[heady sand]

i'm very close to finishing... update this weekend?

[molten bear]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-tower-peppino-cartoon-peppino-spaghetti-gif-27477763

[random ocean]

oh that will take a while I think

also nice rainbow bg in your pfp vic

[heady sand]

Thanks

[heady sand]

OK progress report:
nah nvm update won't be this weekend sadly. Characters are like more than 90% complete, but after some playtesting I need to fix some pretty fatal bugs I didn't notice before

[stable path]

Shy guy will not be real in the following week 💔

[heady sand]

Hopefully soon...

[quiet summit]

Goombud hype

but yeah take your time Vic

[lucid locust]

@heady sand add self destruct

[stable path]

Agreed

Both to Wii Retro Controller and to HyperCat

[heady sand]

Add a recursive rule for destruct 👍

[neat turret]

star coins madness : (

[heady sand]

it's your fault :(
jk

[neat turret]

: (

I trolled too much

game didn’t like my 28/3 lap ratio……

[heady sand]

you kept winning like what!

[neat turret]

i don’t know it’s block hopper privilege!

[tardy sentinel]

true

[craggy iris]

stop lapping

[tardy sentinel]

what about the juicy p rank

[neat turret]

Lap 18 - The Untimely Death That I Deeply Think As Utmost Deserved

[craggy iris]

you made it an L rank man

you lost the juicy P rank

[pearl garnet]

I guess we did help with this shocking realisation

[random ocean]

you can say I am a top runner in the top 2 games in that list 😄

[austere skiff]

you haven't submitted a run to vic's custom match-inator

[pearl garnet]

If so you should

[random ocean]

I will very soon

[random ocean]

when will star coins be here?

[tardy sentinel]

never!!!

[heady sand]

Potentially, in the next update. Aiming for before the end of this week, I've still got some fatal bugs left to solve

[tardy sentinel]

fatal bugs left to solve: star coins

[heady sand]

: the entire game

Laps in multiplayer too (they work fine when you're alone)

[tardy sentinel]

kid named flichka:

[heady sand]

Who ended up winning that time

[neat turret]

froggers

[pearl garnet]

Rare footage of me simultaneously taking damage

[random ocean]

I think it would be best if players could go through each other in race maps

aka disabled collision

[wild bane]

That actually sounds cool

[random ocean]

IKR

[heady sand]

there's a persistent effect that currently does something similar. collisions are not fully removed but you can't knockback each other

[vagrant surge]

wouldnt be hard to completely remove collisions

[heady sand]

true

[molten bear]

unironically, make it a toggle

[tardy sentinel]

it should be a

[heady sand]

yea i'm just gonna rework the current "no player collisions" effect

it's fun sometimes

[random ocean]

does this disable collisions?

[tardy sentinel]

what

[random ocean]

where

[tardy sentinel]

this isnt an among us lobby

talk clearly

[random ocean]

I asked if that rhing disables collsions

does it?

[tardy sentinel]

no

[tardy sentinel]

its not added

now it is ig

[heady sand]

↑

it's been a thing for several versions

[vagrant surge]

so you can like stand on each other

[tardy sentinel]

i dont pay attention to the specials

[heady sand]

yep

[tardy sentinel]

i need to read guys!!!

[heady sand]

shame!!

[random ocean]

the one rule thats actually GOOD

[deft oasis]

Vic I had a silly idea that has like no benefit whatsoever

Replacing the disqualify action with a MiiShart action

[molten bear]

the miisharts expand their territory

[heady sand]

lmao fr? I could mak it so it plays that animation on disquailfication with a small probability

[deft oasis]

Amazing

Functionally they are the same thing so I think it's silly

I can give you the assets soon if you'd like

[heady sand]

yep, that'd be hlpful

[pearl garnet]

Oh yes the "opponent knockback" special option

[lucid locust]

this is great

[stable path]

Passive effect: replace disqualifications with miishart

[random ocean]

guys, I managed to achieve 13 out of 18 IL records

4 of them have still yet to be verified

[random ocean]

got this run and am about to drink smoothie

[random ocean]

???

firstaval HOW are you the hammer bros guy

and second, why did touching the flagpole do nothing

(aside from a sound effect)

[tardy sentinel]

have you seen that i was spectating

[neat turret]

it is I, the Flicker that Lights

this is vppt9

[heady sand]

the hammer that bros

[craggy iris]

1.9

[stable path]

Did you read any of the convo or do I have to hammer in the point, bro?

[random ocean]

eh its no biggie

[heady sand]

it was a private playtesting build for the next version

[random ocean]

and why does the flagpole do nothing?

because of some setting I suppose

[heady sand]

it was a bug!

[random ocean]

hmm

[heady sand]

that's why update's taking a bit more to finish than i'd like

[random ocean]

looks like star coins WILL be there

thats exciting

[heady sand]

Ye

[random ocean]

yay!

will the levels in this version change in any way?

[heady sand]

No

[random ocean]

awesome!

[heady sand]

looking forward to officially revealing all the new features lol

[random ocean]

same

when is it coming out?

[heady sand]

well it's funny, it was planned for last weekend before we did the playtesting and discovering some fatal bugs
i'm now hoping for the second half of this week

[wild bane]

wait is there gonna be new racing levels?

[heady sand]

i kinda wanna add two or three in there, but no guarantees

[random ocean]

personally, IDK which is better

having more race levels = closer to the entiety of NSMB DS

but then my splits would be messed up potentially

[craggy iris]

very fatal

[craggy iris]

i kinda wanna make one tbh

[wild bane]

THEN DO IT

[craggy iris]

m ok

[craggy iris]

so uh hows this

[heady sand]

I think it's nice so far

Interesting concept with the flagpole being there

[stable path]

Ooh, does the map wrap around?

[heady sand]

I'd imagine so

[stable path]

I very much like that idea

Very cool stuff miyav

[craggy iris]

yes i uh realized i left a space open empty so i decided to have it loop and make that place the uh flag pole room

[random ocean]

So, I just calculated this, and if I played every single level like I did in my ILs, I would have a roughly 12:50 time

I added all of the IL's (with RTA timing) and then added 4:20 to that

since 4:20 is approximately the time spent menuing

I had a strong feeling sub 14 was possible but after doing this sub 13 MIGHT barely be on the cards as well

though it will be difficult af

[lucid locust]

that looks cool

[craggy iris]

@quiet summit there was going to be forced coins but i remembered you and decided to move them

[quiet summit]

thank u miyav

[craggy iris]

ill still try to have it be a bit of a challange

[craggy iris]

@quiet summit this is hard part, uh should i nerf it again even tho i already nerfed it like 3 times

[quiet summit]

oh damn

I think this'll be interesting no worries

[pearl garnet]

Why do I feel this reminds me of a joris tournament level

still it's cool

[wild bane]

👍

[heady sand]

This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread for the latest.
||New version: 17.0.9 has just been released.
• 8 new playable characters! Including Dry Bones, Hammer Bro, Shy Guy, Goombud and more...
• You can now set laps (1 to 99) for race maps.
• Starcoins have been added to the race stages. If enabled, players will be forced to collect them to reach the goal!
• Controller rumble for compatible devices (Xbox, Switch and PS controllers are guaranteed to work). Check Options → Controls.
• New sets of rules: Finished Lap and Got Starcoin conditions; No Bahs and No powerup reserve persistent effects.
• Minor tiling and physics fixes and UI revisions.
• Piranhas and Bullet Bills are now considered when disabling enemies.

https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/tag/v17.0.9
It's been a long way coming but I hope it's worth the wait, emjoy||

[mild dome]

Great work as usual vic

will check out later

[deft oasis]

Good job Vic, proud of you

[stable path]

MY CHILD IS HERE

SHY GUY MY BELOVED

[heady sand]

thx you

[wild bane]

DRY BONES

And rumble?

I hope rumble comes to the main game

[heady sand]

ye it will

[wild bane]

Oh really?

Thats cool

[random ocean]

lets goooooo

[spare swift]

me when i do not get teleported back and am now softlocked

[heady sand]

wu

[spare swift]

it let me touch it without teleporting me back to the beginning

[heady sand]

does this happen always?

i think you propelled up while doing the flag animation

[spare swift]

just did it again yeah

[heady sand]

try not to action the powerup when touching the flagpole

[spare swift]

didnt this time

[heady sand]

argh why

[stable path]

Also there was a match where I won but someone ground pounded me during my win animation and the match softlocked

I got stunlocked into sliding off and touching the lava, and every other player despawned

[heady sand]

thank god lapless stil works like before despite all of that

[stable path]

Yeah

Also shy guy isn't colorable 💔

[heady sand]

maybe another time...

[pearl flame]

vic you should make rules that can effect specific players

for whenever

cause if that were to be in, then there would be a lot more creative stuff

[stable path]

Conditions that are only met when a specific player does them?

Sounds interesting, but what about the little timmies who'd do shit like "when xXxboyxXx hurt = become megan"

[pearl flame]

true

but there can be some interesting matches besides those

[stable path]

Setting aside the bullshit, yeah I do think it'd be fun

[pearl flame]

watch as people do manhunts with the singel person rules

[stable path]

I don't think teams would be added to this mod, but if they were, everyone in the lobby could do an all v 1 kinda thing where the 1 player gets an advantage

[pearl flame]

ye

[stable path]

Although I suppose one could still do this without teams, it's just that team killing can happen

[pearl flame]

yeah

[tardy sentinel]

i touched the flagpole and i kept going down

now im stuck in the ground

[pearl flame]

Rip

Oh and you were doing 3 laps

Imagine if vic put some kind of thing that acts like pizza face from pizza tower when you run out of time during pizza time

[tardy sentinel]

i couldn't handle pizzaface

[pearl flame]

Actually now that I think about it
Phanto should to the job right
(Phanto is the mask that chases you in SMB2)

(When you get its key)

But instead of a key it should be at a specific lap

That would be cool

[tardy sentinel]

its a good idea and all

but

coding it in the game will be really hard

another bug: when you jump through the donut blocks in al-jungle, you kinda get stuck in them

[stable path]

That's not just a vic mod thing btw

A few mods do that where you can stand on top and inside the one way

[tardy sentinel]

oh

i was trying to record a bug but instead i found another bug

look at the end

[stable path]

That reminds me

I feel dry bones is not very noticeable when he has a powerup

Like, the color of his bones shouldn't look like they're just somewhat tinted to match the powerup color

[tardy sentinel]

i dont know how to explain this bug

[random ocean]

running 100% will be interesting with the star coins now in place

[random ocean]

what bug?

[tardy sentinel]

look at the laps and the star coin settings

at the beginning

the laps are at 2

and star coins are on

i make a new lobby

the settings are still there

but when i start a match

they reset to default

[random ocean]

starnge

[craggy iris]

waghr...

that came out earlier than i thught

[neat turret]

and it’s buggy! argh vic has been bested by his own decisions

[craggy iris]

@heady sand the uh thing is done, theres also enemies but you cant see them in this photo since its too zoomed out

the thing right near the start of the pipe part is a checkpoint placeholder

[pearl garnet]

shhhh glitches galore (/j)
Great job vic

[heady sand]

Shocker! Never seen before /j

[quiet summit]

It’s time

[neat turret]

is he still smolboi

[craggy iris]

@charred lynx is he

[quiet summit]

Only fan depiction of a Goombud where he is finally silly!!

gee I wonder why

[heady sand]

No now he big

[tardy sentinel]

@heady sand hi vic flagpole bug

[heady sand]

sob

[tardy sentinel]

shouldve bug fixed more before releasing the build

[heady sand]

yea... fuck me man every time i try and fix one bug two new ones appear

tha'ts why we can't have nice things

[tardy sentinel]

we can have nice things

they just need to be a little bit more polished

[heady sand]

planning to push a hotfix today. one of the flagpole bugs is fixed, the laps are still pending

maybe after a private playtest but idk! i need to clear my brain!

[deft oasis]

We love Unity!

United is my favoirate game creating engineer

I am making an Mario vs. Luigi Online mod!

[heady sand]

how about you unite your game engine with the concept of a functional program 😃

[tardy sentinel]

godot game engine

[heady sand]

if only

[tardy sentinel]

scratch

[deft oasis]

I could see this game being done in GameMaker fairly well

That is if you get 3D models working, which I know is possible but probably convoluted bullshit

[heady sand]

i've been trying to imagine how it'd look in unreal wih fancy lighting and stuff lo

[deft oasis]

Unreal MvL

Amazing

[quiet summit]

Goombud makes a Dry Bones noise when triple jumping

[heady sand]

huh??

sry, must've assigned the wrong sfx folder to it

[deft oasis]

That happened to me once

...

It's played the extremely loud "DEATHMATCH STINKY" sound whenever a random level was picked

And I had no idea because I was never host

[heady sand]

ohhh hnoooo.... lmao

[deft oasis]

Everyone thought it was intentional LMAO

I don't blame them

[quiet summit]

true

[pearl garnet]

I'd rather not

[pearl garnet]

well since shitposting is your thing it wouldn't be far fetched to think that

[deft oasis]

I know

[quiet summit]

already 10/10

[deft oasis]

The lore goes deeper

Bowser is the first character Vic made for MvL

[pearl garnet]

"lore"

[heady sand]

vic backstory really

uhh anyway i'd like to think i fixed some bugs, i literally tested it myself with a second instance and laps now work
i'm still terrified to release it though ugh

[pearl garnet]

oh boy

[pearl garnet]

well the word "lore" is overused

most of my friends can't even be bothered to use proper words irl they just say "irl lore" in english

[craggy iris]

oh shit wait i forgot star coins for my map

[pearl garnet]

Can I say where to place them

and you won't object

[neat turret]

Knowing you this is extremely scary

[craggy iris]

alright uh we could either have all 5 or we could pick 3

[heady sand]

you can only have three starcoins

[craggy iris]

ok

then lets keep the 1st and 4th ones and where would the other placement be

[neat turret]

I'd say 2, 4, 5

If the star coins are in a easy-to-access spot that kinda ruins the point

[heady sand]

either 1 4 5 or 2 4 5 works for me
they're out of the way but not too convoluted

[craggy iris]

i think i like 1 and 4

[neat turret]

whats the point of the mini area in the middle

[craggy iris]

so people might fall

and have to wall jump

and lose speed

[neat turret]

There's like a very small chance anyone will fall there if it's a 1 block gap

[craggy iris]

plant

ok so are we keeping 2 4 5 or 1 4 5 or a different star coin placement

[neat turret]

devious ideas

[craggy iris]

dear god

[quiet summit]

small question

when speedrunning, what counts as time?

what about the win animation or the start cooldown?

[neat turret]

they are included

[quiet summit]

o

[craggy iris]

ok people is this good

[tardy sentinel]

looks pretty good

[craggy iris]

i mean the star coins

[quiet summit]

Awesome

[tardy sentinel]

the star coins are too

[quiet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115752157241684060/1118686524335214682/mapno.png

[craggy iris]

wtfg new mrap?

im guessing this is a race with the lack of stars

[quiet summit]

yup

There are stars, but I was just lazy to get star coins

Same goes for the thing at the end

I was lazy to get an actual flag so I improvised

[pearl garnet]

The last star coin no, the map yes

[wild bane]

is v1.7.0.9 really that buggy

[craggy iris]

why not

[tardy sentinel]

vic is freaking out

[neat turret]

epilepsy

[pearl garnet]

...

[heady sand]

nah that's because of lag from the "explode level" rule

Update
17.0.9 has some issues with race maps. If you plan on speedrunning this version, please make sure to have decent ping to avoid "missing" the flagpole hitbox.
I'll fix this in 17.0.10, I'm too tired rn

[tardy sentinel]

hi vic

[heady sand]

eo

[pearl flame]

o

[craggy iris]

i dont see anything wrong with it tbh, maybe you missed the part where you can slide under the pipe?

[pearl garnet]

I wish it was a more obscure place

[stable path]

Could you stretch the hitbox to be further to the right? No one's meant to be able to reach that point anyways, correct?

Or maybe even add an invisible wall that forces you to touch the flagpole hitbox

[heady sand]

ye my plan is to snap the player's position to the goal so i make minimal changes to existing levels

[charred lynx]

Yes he is

[pearl garnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058013210520850503/1118990854242185247/image.png

[quiet summit]

What a normal game

[stable path]

Whose be? 🤨

[tardy sentinel]

wonder who that is

[craggy iris]

hey @heady sand you should add invisible walls to the mario pissing spot in rock pit since theres a launch act now

[stable path]

Thing is about that spot is that you can still get up with just the propeller and no rules

Using a very tight triple jump and then windscrewing upwards

[heady sand]

ok

[neat turret]

so cracked

[quiet summit]

This guy's sending obscenities because of a bugged match

ngl it's funny to see them rage like this but that's also just plain gross

[quaint socket]

mariors

[stable path]

What kind of sick person would call people mariors over such a simple fix?

They're double stupid if they happen to be the host who can simply just end the match

[quiet summit]

why are everyone's rules now bumped into and knocked back hurt you

[stable path]

Probably cuz of deathmatch rules

[quiet summit]

:OOOO SO ORIGINAL!!!!

[craggy iris]

you can? well gotta get it higher then

[stable path]

Yes, can we get much higher please?

Oh oh oh

[craggy iris]

in every time i went to see it the thing was barely out of reach

[stable path]

I wonder why you never added an invisible roof just to play safe anyways. Idk about you, but that's something I always do

[craggy iris]

i didnt have invi walls then

[stable path]

I'm so sorry to hear that... 🥹

[craggy iris]

lol

[quiet summit]

uh ok

[tulip knoll]

:0

[quiet summit]

Oh hello there

[deft oasis]

Hello there

[quiet summit]

Hi cbuy hi blueswit holaalcejxhskspehtnals hi Vic

[heady sand]

Helo bluewiicubby

[deft oasis]

Hi Vic hi Wii Modern Controller

[spark moss]

hi cuert

[deft oasis]

Hi buert

[spark moss]

And also hi Wii remote extensions and vic how's everyone doing

[quiet summit]

you fogot BlueSwitchPalace! 😨

[quiet summit]

happy and mad

[neat turret]

laggiest wins

[lucid locust]

eh

afterward it tried to join me into the same match as spectator

[heady sand]

someone really asked "why do coins kill" when the rules were just

i think some ppl forget they're playing modded sometimes

[alpine perch]

Vic when does the timer for a level starts and stops?

[heady sand]

it starts when the starting box explodes, and it ends when the "<Playername> Wins!" jingle and text appear

[alpine perch]

ok thx

[heady sand]

no prob

[alpine perch]

my friend is spoeedrunning a lvl and we were wondering about the timer

[quiet summit]

hey guys, just wanna wonder who’s playing as a Goombud in here

^^

[pearl garnet]

You mean as a jigglypuff

[quiet summit]

🤨

[lucid locust]

i'm lagging out again lol

[heady sand]

Yea other ppl have noticed that too and I have no idea why it does that

Kinda thought that it's falling down into the lava from the moving plat

[tulip quiver]

mystery koopa

[tardy sentinel]

1 hard reset and bros gone

[random ocean]

what's your PB?

dang that's very good

that's a bit faster than myself

how good was that run?

lol

wdym?

wait what?

so you managed to beat my PB while not trying to even speedrun?

yeq

[stable path]

You should try recording a run then 😳

[random ocean]

yeah there's speedruns of every race map

13 of the 18 that exist I have WR in

sadge

[alpine perch]

Yea than i speedrun all lvls

So tgat was u on speedrun dot com Nice

[spark moss]

I wasn't there so no proof

[heady sand]

new map selector mockup

[mild dome]

OOO cool!

[deft oasis]

That looks awesome

[mild dome]

it should have sections that say race maps & just like VS Maps

[quaint socket]

thats so clean!!!!

i like it

[heady sand]

glad you guys think so

[heady sand]

i tried separating it into those two "vanilla" and "races" sections but yea i think "versus" is a better name for the upper one

[mild dome]

oh prolly yea

[wild bane]

hell yes

[heady sand]

if anyone sees anything off or feels there are readability issues tell me before it's too late!

[random ocean]

both the text for "Vanilla" and "Races" along with the logo's have too little opacity

make it higher

aka a clearer image

[novel valley]

agreed, i didn't even see the text

[deft oasis]

Oh I thought those were things behind the popup

[wild bane]

i didnt even notice that

[heady sand]

Lmao are they really that transparent? Ok I'll be changing them

[neat turret]

not all versus stages are vanilla anyway

[pearl garnet]

well half are custom

[neat turret]

ur gonna run out of space for the race maps

[heady sand]

i know, i won't be adding many more

[neat turret]

7-A... WHEN.... (Day of Reckoning

[heady sand]

WHAT'S 7-a

[neat turret]

the v e r t i c a l pipe level

[heady sand]

oh i saw it

[vagrant surge]

8-6 when 😔

[heady sand]

i did think of that one lol, could be fun cause of the looping gimmick but dunno

[craggy iris]

9227-67 when tho

[heady sand]

in 6 minutes

[craggy iris]

real

[deft oasis]

One of my least favorite levels

[craggy iris]

same

[stable path]

I have an AMAZING idea for a race map

So basically

It's that one hidden room from a level in the base game where you need the mini mushroom to run on water to reach a star coin 😌

[heady sand]

oooh I know whic one you mean. Could be evn coolre as a versus map instead

[stable path]

I did just literally mean a port of that exact room as a shitpost but a race map themed like that room would actually be kinda sick

[heady sand]

A

[neat turret]

Ay.

[small vale]

where can i find the world records for the levels where you get to the flag pole

since this is my best time as of now

[heady sand]

check out the link in the pins

[small vale]

alr found it

[heady sand]

sweet

[small vale]

oh wow

im shocked that i actually beat it lol

[heady sand]

huh.... alright, very nice

[small vale]

im not gonna submit anything, i was just curious about it

[heady sand]

Oh ok
well if you've got any recordings, you can submit em when you want to

[small vale]

cool

this was just an out of the blue time i got so i didn't really get any recordings other than the ss i just posted but thanks

[heady sand]

gotcha

[pearl garnet]

some frame perfect jumping this must have needed

[wild bane]

Probably

Speedrunning 1-2 is hard

[pearl garnet]

probably because of those mushrooms that go up and down

[heady sand]

It's not mushrooms anymore, now there are seesaws like in the og

And timing it to get them to b at the right angle is something to master

[small vale]

ehhh not much

[pearl garnet]

oh okay

[small vale]

once i found the quickest route i quickly adapted to it and in less than an hour i was able to achieve 26 seconds

[pearl garnet]

also mf you saw

[small vale]

i did take inspiration from the current wr on the online leaderboards lol

the only thing that they did not do is do a tight wall jump in the beginning that saves a second or so

[heady sand]

saw what

[pearl garnet]

the message

fast

[pearl garnet]

so that you can get a fast start?

[heady sand]

of course, I was online at that time and got a notification

[small vale]

yeah

[pearl garnet]

oh boy not dnd moment

[small vale]

how they started the run:

how i started the run:

it's pretty tight though, as you only have about a 1 & 1/2 units of space (in terms of the level being displayed on a grid) to actually perform the wall jump and avoid hitting the ceiling

[pearl garnet]

yeah it boosts

it was a cool move

[neat turret]

@tg gaming your suck lol

[random ocean]

I suck?

I literally had 13 out of 18 IL records at one point

I probably STILL hace a majority even now

hows that for sucking @neat turret ?

[deft oasis]

Don't mind him he's just being a Squidward

[neat turret]

if it wanst obvious already that was a joke lmao

[deft oasis]

It was obvious but it's not funny

[neat turret]

You're one to talk

[wild bane]

tg doesnt get jokes 💀

still staying in character ig

[quaint socket]

that one nickname in tar hasers

[neat turret]

oh wow as if i didnt intentionally make a typo 😨 im so sosrry!

[heady sand]

It's ok, I forgive you for this time

[wild bane]

horse

[stable path]

Peter

The horse is here

[pearl garnet]

I don't get how this specifically made him a squidward but ok

[silver sigil]

i think i broke it

[heady sand]

Yup. Time to end the match

[silver sigil]

well shit

i guess thats it huh?

[heady sand]

It's over...

[silver sigil]

it can happen with reverse loopability

[small vale]

its joever

[heady sand]

Known bug, I'll try to fix

[silver sigil]

okay

[silver sigil]

when there is 0 players ingame

[silver sigil]

it fly

[quiet summit]

playerplayer

[craggy iris]

now look above and see what youre missing out of the pit

[lunar dome]

skill issue

[silver sigil]

says the one that sucks at taco bell deluxe

[silver sigil]

jungle without the jungle

lol

IM STUCK

[deft oasis]

Seems familiar

[quiet summit]

🥶

[silver sigil]

i got banned in a lobby

for no reason

[wild bane]

welcome to mvlo

[silver sigil]

why just why

[quaint socket]

[silver sigil]

why

[quiet summit]

it's the server's logic

kay bad joke

uhhh so what happened

[lucid locust]

the server's logic is "because"

[tardy sentinel]

flashbacks

[silver sigil]

turtle gamer

[small vale]

turtle 🐢

turtle club

[quiet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dana-carvey-turtle-face-gif-3422444

[silver sigil]

real

[tardy sentinel]

classic duarte

[silver sigil]

thin

[silver sigil]

guess the game broke

[random ocean]

right

[pearl flame]

might have to do w/ the "completed lap = kill player" rule

maybe

[silver sigil]

say goodbye to your ears

[random ocean]

?

[silver sigil]

oh crap what have i done

1-UP chaos

[heady sand]

man that's just too many rules

[silver sigil]

pool of powerups

i think i broke the game too much

[lunar dome]

that's the year where we are

[random ocean]

current year!

[wild bane]

Lmao

[quiet summit]

It’s a lot better than having 2022 lives I’ll tell you that

[small vale]

if you die you're sent back a year

and you get younger instead of older

[craggy iris]

most average video on rock pit

[pearl flame]

the star tornado

[stable rune]

This looks cool

[heady sand]

Hope you enjoy it

[stable rune]

I'm gonna try it once I turn my PC on

[random ocean]

Im gonna return to doing full game runs of this soon

firstaval I wanna sub 15

and second, I have yet to submit my PB (a 15:32 that I deleted the recording of)

[wild bane]

Very nice

I only stopped running this game because it's kinda hard to learn a new trick since there's no save states n stuff

[wild bane]

idk if this is known but i was playing on 17.0.9 and speedrunning when for 4 frames i didn't touch the flagpole

i lost 4 frames because the game didn't let me touch the flagpole for some reason

[heady sand]

it's known, ping plays a role in you grabbing the flagpole
this'll be fixed

[wild bane]

ah ok

[random ocean]

thanks vic

[heady sand]

no problem! more updates and news are gonna come during the summer. It's just that I've been super busy this month

[small vale]

Take ur time the previous update is fun as shit already

[heady sand]

i'm supr glad to hear that lol

[small vale]

I love being shy guy

[neat turret]

Bilhal:
[insert goku appearing on black screen meme]

[lucid locust]

@heady sand isn't sliding down a flag pole slower the lower fps you have in this mod?

[vagrant surge]

me when no time.delatime

[heady sand]

Nope, it's not! I do remember adding the delta time thingy to it

[random ocean]

@wild bane has just taken 5 of my WR's overnight. Only 2 more to tie me 😄

[small vale]

which stages did they get wr on

[random ocean]

oh nevermind, it was only 2 WR's and a top 3.

The WR's were 6-4 and 4-4

the other run was 6-1

[wild bane]

yeah i got kinda confused when you said 5 wrs

[random ocean]

yeah I stand corrected

[small vale]

oke

[random ocean]

@wild bane on his way to dethrone me from the IL leaderboard champ title

atleast for the No Rules section of things

[pearl garnet]

what is you saying about me

[neat turret]

🙂

[pearl garnet]

these smiles are horror

[neat turret]

😃

[pearl garnet]

sadistic

[neat turret]

nuyh

[pearl garnet]

yes

[deft oasis]

Construction City

[neat turret]

🏗️

[tardy sentinel]

its been 1 month since upda

[neat turret]

shutp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vics extremely busy

(rel

[heady sand]

Dead + broken mod

[craggy iris]

the spikes

[tardy sentinel]

yeah its squidward467

[quiet summit]

I cursed this mod 😈

[neat turret]

Wrong

Scientifically proved otherwise

[tardy sentinel]

you're wrong.
hydrochloric acid

[heady sand]

Buzzer that's both incorrect and loud

I think it'll be a great

[quiet summit]

wi i

[tardy sentinel]

um actually i was correcting fishk :n erd:

i just got ok reacted by vic

i really need to rethink my life choices

im sorry vic

[heady sand]

i'm sorry i didn't mean it

[craggy iris]

hydrocity

[lavish tundra]

pronounce this word for us

[quiet summit]

hydrocity

||hy-drocity||

[deft oasis]

Based????

[tardy sentinel]

haidroaseetee

[quiet summit]

Based.

[heady sand]

Based? Based on what. On your hydrocity?

[craggy iris]

||hyd-rocity||

[lavish tundra]

piss off everyone and call it Labyrinth Zone 3

[craggy iris]

chemical plant 2 zone

[static ridge]

me reference (2% of people can find it)

[novel valley]

guys where is reference

does it require reading

[pearl garnet]

Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog

[pearl flame]

Ah yes
Ive flower

[heady sand]

You have? Damn

[pearl flame]

I love ive flower

[stable path]

Holy hell, he's flowered

[heady sand]

Can you believe idk how to type

[vagrant surge]

the game has decided that you have won

congrats :)

[quaint socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/973987070701867038/1104832262501060678/581A7C63-AAB3-4DA2-B424-0E6360BEBE10.gif

[heady sand]

The rng teleport god has decided your fate

[craggy iris]

the game dont want no laps

[modern bloom]

is it compatible with the mobile mod

[spark moss]

Nope

[modern bloom]

damn

[spark moss]

That's all I'm saying I'm not 100% but I'm saying it is since technically all mods are their own app and can't be combined

[modern bloom]

ok

[flat bough]

the best record in 8-5W

[modern bloom]

ive scrolled so much just to find the link
if anyone is trying to install it, here it is

[mild dome]

just look at...pins

[heady sand]

Yea the latest version is always pinned :thumbs

[modern bloom]

💀

no way

so that was a waste of time

welp

[heady sand]

Yes

6k messages

Also discord should really add a "Go to top" button in forum posts

But anyway, have fun

[modern bloom]

theres no one onlnme lmao

online*

[heady sand]

Mods are just not very popular
Maybe wait for an invite or invite someone yourself in #modded-lfg

[modern bloom]

ok

[pearl garnet]

like how discord returned the older videos button

[coarse dome]

that's YouTube, silly

[pearl garnet]

oop yeah sorry

I wasn't on my right frame of mind on midnight

[modern bloom]

tbh make it so disqualified people can chat to eachother ingame

[heady sand]

I've got some newfound motivation to resume work on this
Maybe I can show a bit of a new level tonight... We'll see when the actual update comes though

[quiet summit]

gee I wonder what the new level is...

[heady sand]

Hon hon hon

[neat turret]

hey that's my line

[vagrant surge]

holy crap it’s 2FORT

[heady sand]

i swear i'm not french

[neat turret]

teufort real

vic make red vs blu we need the gzmiang

[vagrant surge]

tu es francais

[lunar dome]

i try to look up to spawn powerup with the players and it didn't spawn it if im not the host

[tardy sentinel]

@heady sand ic

[flat bough]

also i cant throw frozen bowser minions in gap

bug