🎛️ vic's Custom Match-inator

[heady sand]

Wow

[mild dome]

its all good vic its relatable lmao

[heady sand]

** ** 👍

[craggy iris]

@heady sand you know you can make spinies fall right

[heady sand]

The code to do that is already there??

[craggy iris]

yea

[heady sand]

Cool, never realized that
I'll look into it

[craggy iris]

just open the enemy you placed in the level with inspector

oh also you forgot the preview again lol

bug report 2

after the checkpoint is collected the animation ends there

you forgot to extend the background (also happens with al-jungle)

and uh you can get hurt and die in the flagpole animation

try changing the collider to grid for these blocks

[mild dome]

my level real

[craggy iris]

btw vic if you need the tilesets for 8-1 and beach i can send them to you

[heady sand]

yeah, that'd be useful

[craggy iris]

alr ill send it to you sometime when i open unity

[heady sand]

cool thanks

[pearl garnet]

Ayo guys what happened today

new releases?

[heady sand]

Ye new update dropped earlier today

[static ridge]

github is down, can someone send the zip file here

[heady sand]

seems to be back up

[thin sentinel]

uhh not sure if this is how its ment to be but im tryna make it so when a player collets a star it gives a 1up but it doesnt make the rule, is this a glitch or is it ment to be like that

[heady sand]

Does it make a buzzing "warning" sound when you try that?

Or does the button not respond?

[thin sentinel]

no it doesnt
it just doesnt do anything

[heady sand]

Weird, must be a bug then. I'll look into it soon

Thanks for the report though 🙏

[thin sentinel]

alr thanks

[thin sentinel]

np

[heady sand]

Pretty sure other players were able to have a rule similar to that, but not sure how exactly
Maybe try to work around the non working button

[thin sentinel]

i just found something out, nothing i do lets me make the outcome give a 1up

[static ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-hotel-mario-no-philips-cdi-refusal-gif-23891990

[lucid locust]

i can hear that image

[heady sand]

It works for me though... Does this also throw an error? https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/latest/download/win64.zip

Hi hi hello

Oh right ok

[static ridge]

yes but actually no

github wont work on my home computer

but it works on every other device i own

[heady sand]

then it must be somthing with your pc

hold on lemme do something

[static ridge]

it probably is

i downloaded a virus on accident, and i opened an issue that said "this is a fucking virus" and they wont let me back on github on that computer

[heady sand]

not even using another browser??

[heady sand]

if you still need the downloads i got a google drive link btw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/159d5JqE2psyvF3Iny_D7YjT1aJQYoGUy?usp=sharing

[static ridge]

thanks bro

[static ridge]

i tried chrome, edge, opera gx, installed firefox

and they didnt work

[heady sand]

huh weird...

[static ridge]

is this normal???

[heady sand]

It's a simple ZIP folder, so it'll take just as other normal zip files

so nah shuoldn't be taking so long

[static ridge]

oh

i just restarted extracting and it took 2 seconds

also is the itch.io page up to date?

[heady sand]

cool

Sooo the build on the otch page should be updated but I think it has a bug that doesn't allow you to type in the chat

[static ridge]

no fucking way

i used a vpn

and it let me into github

i win

[static ridge]

how about a pickup state

where if you pick something up it does something

pickup anything -> givemega

[pearl garnet]

It'd be cool if you could have every block give mega as an option and it could have the mega growing animation which is not present in vanilla game

[covert abyss]

make a android version also android makes its own server so u can only play with people from android so u can do it idk why u didnt yet!

[heady sand]

Sure I'll add that to my list

[heady sand]

Ok that thing though not sure if I'll be able to program in

[heady sand]

Oh believe I've tried, but the current version of the base game just doesn't work on android

Ok you've been copy pasting the same Android build msg on all mod forums

[tulip quiver]

maybe a special HitItemBlock event, where some actions (like SpawnPowerup, GiveMega and RemoveCoin) would have special behavior (like replacing the block's contents with a random powerup, a mega and a "reverse-coin" respectively)

[quartz sun]

It would be possible by changing the results option of blocks.

[pearl garnet]

Sounds reasonable enough

[dusk oasis]

lads i gave the baby man a snickers bar

[dusk oasis]

lil baby man lil baby BABY man

lol

[dusk oasis]

we need this as a secret him just hiding somewhere eating a snickers bar

lol

[spare swift]

secret bumm better

[heady sand]

Secret bum with snickers bar ok

[reef narwhal]

ye secret bum better

[craggy iris]

https://youtu.be/BinaqYncnMs

@heady sand

[wild bane]

oh thats cool

[heady sand]

no way, sick!

[pearl garnet]

Hold up

they are in the server?

So cool

[stark grove]

servers down?

[heady sand]

Nope, they're working for me. Must be an issue with your pc or WiFi
If you want you should ask in #technical-support since my mod has the same servers as the OG, and the Devs may help you

I've been seeing a bit more ppl reporting server issues as of late, idk if that means anything

[stark grove]

hmm alr

[static ridge]

no, that happens to me too

[silver sigil]

Could we get some more level races? some from world 2 and 4?

[heady sand]

Sure, I can consider some of those

[silver sigil]

cool. i know you want player friendly, so i'll try suggesting good levels for that.

for world 2, i looked up the layouts

i suggest 2-4, 2-2 & 2-6 for consideration

for world 4, i suggest 4-4 with the flagpole moved behind the last 4 paratroopas.

can i also add some suggestions? 7-6 & 8-7 for possible consideration too. sorry if this sounds like a lot, but i think they would be good player and system friendly maps.

[silver sigil]

one last suggestion to help make the custom feel: If you can, a powerup toggle. that way the owner can choose what powerups are given from the coin reward.

yeah that's it. done rambling about it today.

overall, really fun mod.

funny bugs and stuff, but still good.

[heady sand]

Thanks will take into account your suggestions

[heady sand]

I believe someone has been working on this for a future version of the OG game. Whenever and if it becomes available, I'll try to port it to my mod

[silver sigil]

ooh. ok that's cool.

[craggy iris]

alreadly coming in mvlo 1.8

which is literally the next update

[dusk oasis]

i wonder when its coming, 1.8 i mean, i cant wait for the team update,

[craggy iris]

im guessing theyre still redoing the code

after all teams and other stuff is out

[silver sigil]

oh cool.

so that's something to look forward to then.

[brittle aspen]

can you add levels from newer super mario bros ds

[raw ruin]

they would probably have to ask permission to newer ds devs (skawo most likely) and idk if he'd accept

[novel valley]

#1055968207183294505 (kinda)

[languid igloo]

nope lol, they allow you to use everything except levels which is completely understandable

[mild dome]

True i wouldnt want mfs taking my level work and putting them in god knows anywhere

[heady sand]

Ye, understandable

[reef narwhal]

toads ultra doom mod of 🧐

[raw ruin]

That's exactly my point, vic could ask Skawo to use his levels in MvLo. They don't allow you to just "reupload" their levels on a different nsmbds hack :p

There's a chance it gets accepted

[lucid locust]

@heady sand act give mega did this

[deft oasis]

Amazing

[spare swift]

you are now playing pipe game

[heady sand]

Lol
Yea I need to fix the tiles of that level

[silver sigil]

o u f sd

[vagrant surge]

@heady sand am i good to copy your ds download play connections icons for the ping lol

and the version being always visible on the main menu

[heady sand]

oh for sure

just remembered that I never made a PR of that so be my guest

[vagrant surge]

thx :)

[heady sand]

np!

[static ridge]

will there be anymore updates?

[craggy iris]

im guessing so

[heady sand]

I don't wanna say no but I've been real busy lately

[craggy iris]

understandable

[heady sand]

Maybe some weekend I'll just port a buncha more race maps for some new "content"... Idk about the bugfixing though

Since the last networking bugs are a bit too out of my reach

[tardy sentinel]

jumped...actspawnpowerup only works for host!!!!!

[deft oasis]

As it should

[static ridge]

yes

some things only work for host

i made it so you die if you hit a block

and it just disqualifies the other player after death

but if i die he wins

[random ocean]

bittersweet 8-1

probably gonna go for sub 7:30 since that seems like a nice goal

[heady sand]

wow, nice

[random ocean]

(and despite what the livesplit suggests, it's only the race levels for obvious reasons)

[wild bane]

interesting

i might try going for a 7:30 if i really feel like it

[random ocean]

oh wait

I think I recognize you from the sm63 speeerun server

[wild bane]

yes

[random ocean]

epic

[wild bane]

C:

[random ocean]

thats so cool

and yeah Im also going for sub 7:30

[random ocean]

this was 7:24 pace

actually insane run except 7-5

somehow managed to lose 20 seconds there despite it being relatively easy

guess that's what happens when your under pressure nearing the end of a run

[random ocean]

finally, a solid run :D

I think a perfect run could maybe just barely go under 7:10, but for something without a speedrun.com leaderboard even, I think this is more than good enough :D

this took 2 days whilst my other grind (sm63 100%) has taken nearly 3 months (and still going)

the difference in difficulty is absurd

[heady sand]

holy, nice job :)

[random ocean]

thanks vic

[heady sand]

i'm curious to know your per-level times

[random ocean]

they will be shown in the video

[heady sand]

ahh cool cool

[random ocean]

I kinda wanna make a thumbnail for this

unlike with Quest

[random ocean]

@heady sand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AD8yraRmc4 here's video :)

[vague bison]

@heady sand got bored and made this https://www.mediafire.com/file/v5f8orutn0xzq56/Vic-NoTouchControls.ipa/file it just doesn’t have touch controls rn (iOS) touch works in the menu though

[heady sand]

Sick, thanks

[quartz sun]

you lost quite a bit of time

[random ocean]

Im aware of the 1 second timeloss in every level from 5-3 to 6-2 as well as the roughly 2.5 second timeslosses in the last two levels each

yeah sub 7:10 is probably possible

who knows maybe if someone is really skilled maybe sub 7 as well?

@quartz sun were you reffering to something else?

[quartz sun]

also in first stage

[random ocean]

how so?

the first stage seemed optimal

[quartz sun]

there could've been a few wallkicks during the drop area

and a hip drop could either be skipped, or closer to the ground

[random ocean]

hmm, I never considered this but maybe?

[random ocean]

what does this even mean? hip drop?

[novel valley]

ground pound but japanese

[random ocean]

ah

eh, even with the potential timesave, for something that doesn't even have an official speedrun.com leaderboard (smh) this is abosolutely good enough

[unique pulsar]

been having a lot of fun on this mod this evening, is there plans to add more (or even all) the ds levels to race mode?

[heady sand]

glad you're liking it
also for the maps, oh I'd love to but I've been lazy since the latest update two months ago, so no promises

[unique pulsar]

Ah oki lmao

Are you able to just port the levels for most part or are you remaking tile by tile

[heady sand]

Naw, Unity and DS games are so different that I just have to sit down and do it tile by tile lol

[random ocean]

personally I see it as far too much work

but MAYBE vic might find it to be worth it idk

though there are a lot of levels

[dull whale]

I love this mod

Wish the race tracks were in vanilla tho

[random ocean]

SAME

also wish all NSMB DS levels were in this

lemme compare the two

[austere skiff]

is this thread also used for discussion of the mod?

[random ocean]

I think so

[craggy iris]

why wouldnt it be

[austere skiff]

https://youtu.be/ysmfU_nI1ps I did a speedrun of every race map in the game

I was in a Discord call

[random ocean]

lets goooo

another runner

[heady sand]

damn! competition amongst speedrunners

[random ocean]

are you gonna try and improve that @austere skiff ?

[austere skiff]

another???

thought I was the only one who ran that category

[random ocean]

nah I got a 7:16

[noble swallow]

Damn the time in menus count too

[random ocean]

wdym?

are you saying it was good, or asking if it counts, which it does

[austere skiff]

Well yeah

It uses RTA timing since there’s no in-game time for every level in a row

[raw shuttle]

hi vic

[heady sand]

Heya

[random ocean]

hey @raw shuttle

[viral imp]

Is there an android version of this?

[heady sand]

No, sorry. It's not possible atm

[heady sand]

I was wondering:
Would vertical maps (think the towers or some of the W7 cloud levels from NSMBDS) work as race stages for vcmi??

[deft oasis]

Yeah probably

[vagrant surge]

towers

[deft oasis]

Vic mod has MiiBumm virus

[heady sand]

indeed it does

I do have the urge to add some of the tower maps not gonna lie

[molten bear]

dear god no

[heady sand]

ok ok

[molten bear]

proof

everytime i picked up a mega another would go in my reserve for some reason

[heady sand]

I've seen it happen with some rulesets, apparently those weren't the issue

[molten bear]

idk man

[random ocean]

does anybody wanna get some matches here going?

[deft oasis]

With or without the MiiBumm virus, Sir?

[random ocean]

why is MiiBumm a virus?

[molten bear]

with

[random ocean]

with then

@molten bear you wanna 1v1 this mod?

[molten bear]

i get the impression there's gonna be some stinky rulesets

[random ocean]

no

in fact Im not gonna have any new custom rules

just 10 stars (and mostly race maps)

[spare swift]

i was secretly there the whole time

[random ocean]

wait really?

you were "someone" in game, weren't you?

[molten bear]

he is

joking

[random ocean]

oh

jokes Tg didn;'t get i guess

I made a public lobby guys

gonna leave it for a few minutes

[neat turret]

very common

[random ocean]

sounds like a very good thing

I think I'll take this lack of a response as a no

[molten bear]

i don't play the mod often this is the first time ive seen it

[random ocean]

oh

[static ridge]

can happen without any rules enabled

[heady sand]

I broke it
this mod will never not have bugs

[raw shuttle]

thATSTA SO NCIEAEC ICEI IC CIicei ciiceice iceiceice

[heady sand]

screenshot of the day number 2: intriguing

[neat turret]

wtf new rules

:D

[static ridge]

idea

new random rule

and ability to change the time for seconds

every10sec..Random

[noble swallow]

chaos ahh

[keen thistle]

I was trying to play this today with the feb release version, is it intentional that you can't manually create triggers that give 1 ups? Forgive me if this has already been asked.

[heady sand]

It's not intentional, but a mistake from my part that's gonna be fixed next update

[keen thistle]

thank you for your work btw it's fun

[heady sand]

no probs, glad it's fun https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1082153288125915156.webp?size=32&name=LuigiHappy&quality=lossless

[heady sand]

I've got a motivation kick. Next version with some bug fixes and new features will come before the end of this week

[craggy iris]

yip

e

[static ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/benefishial-beneficial-shrimple-grouper-clamplicated-gif-26440220

[craggy iris]

that fish is literally the fish emoji but irl

🐟

look at it

its so similar holy shit

[heady sand]

true...

[heady sand]

frightening

[molten bear]

horizontal spinner

[spare swift]

racecar

[craggy iris]

im scared

[random ocean]

very funny spinner lol

[lucid locust]

How did the spinner do that?

Turn into DK barrel.

[heady sand]

I modified the spinner prefab to have a horizontal (and customizable) force too!

I wanted to mimic those propulsor pipe things that are also in NSMB

[heady sand]

the

[deft oasis]

Imagine having normal commit names

[heady sand]

mine in general could be better, but also could be worse

[heady sand]

huh
wonderful

Unity can't locate the zaza, wtf lol

[molten bear]

"Wrong"

[deft oasis]

Let me check what that one is

Amazing

[deft oasis]

This is the "Wrong" commit

The color was wrong so I fixed it and called it that

The best commit in the entire history of CCM

[molten bear]

cubbert

[heady sand]

This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread for the latest.
||ok... finally
New version: 17.0.6 has just been released.
• 4 whole new race maps! (W2-4, W6-Castle, W7-6, W8-7)
• New sets of rules: Explode Level action, Spawn Enemy action and Every x Seconds condition.
• New songs in race maps + some SFX are now higher quality.
• Fixed many, many tiling issues in already existing levels.
• The goal and checkpoint can now be collected even while invincible (sorry)
• Fixed some timing and UI bugs, including that bug where some rules couldn't be selected.

https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/tag/v17.0.6
enjoy||

[vagrant surge]

"explode level" oh no

do not bomb omb 2?

[heady sand]

oh yes

[vagrant surge]

• Fixed many, many tiling issues in already existing levels.
did you fix the ice slopes

[heady sand]

Yes (not 100% but I don't care, it's still better)

[vagrant surge]

much better

[random ocean]

oh yay new update!

is this gonna be like a consistent thing?

[heady sand]

updates used to be consistent, but now eh... no promises

[random ocean]

ok

[quartz sun]

that's still better

[heady sand]

that's intended! wanted to give off a "random" pattern

[quartz sun]

you're welcome everybody

you can't unsee it now uwu

[deft oasis]

Keep it there

Never change it

Thank you

[heady sand]

ok

[neat turret]

Don't keep it there

Change it

Thank youer

[heady sand]

ok

[pearl garnet]

Hey vic I'm back to this suggestion, what's that "explode level" thing

[heady sand]

It spawns in an instant bob-omb with infinite detonation radius. Basically, breaks all the breakable blocks in the level

[pearl garnet]

"huhuhuhuhuhuh do not the bob omb reference"

[heady sand]

"frfr"

[dull whale]

I can confirm that he was

[craggy iris]

dawg i GOTTA play

also vi u forgro to update the pinned mesarg

[heady sand]

shi
Thanks for reminding me

[craggy iris]

is this a bug?

i thought the 2nd menu was suppossed to be there

[heady sand]

I don't see anything wrong there

what 2nd menu?

[craggy iris]

nvm you removed all the previews except bg

that explains it

[heady sand]

Oh, yes. It was easier that way

[craggy iris]

oh also do you need loopable clouds and dark world bgs

[heady sand]

like without seams? yea I'd need those

[craggy iris]

ok

[heady sand]

cool, thanks

[craggy iris]

bug

[heady sand]

hm

[craggy iris]

also idk if intentional but you didnt remove some of the tiles

[heady sand]

really? wasn't intentional

[craggy iris]

rock pit, dark world, cliffs

[heady sand]

ohh I forgot, those were actually left on purpose

[craggy iris]

o

y dark world tho

i mean its just like

a few yellow volcano tiles

doesnt even fit with the bg

[heady sand]

dunno, was kind of a random decision

it doesn't fit since the lighting isn't applied so

[craggy iris]

hey uh

i cnat cange the time

[heady sand]

damn

I literally haven't touched that, but I've had times where text fields just randomly stopped working

[craggy iris]

@tardy sentinel can you join i gotta do something

[tardy sentinel]

ok

[heady sand]

Known "bug" (more of a mistake from me): the loading song is not what it used to be

[craggy iris]

@heady sand starman still doesnt count as a powerup

[heady sand]

alright

[tardy sentinel]

so does mega mushroom

[heady sand]

that's intended, mega mushroom has its separate rules

[tardy sentinel]

alr

[craggy iris]

stomp me

@tardy sentinel

[tardy sentinel]

i did

[craggy iris]

gotmega killplayer doesnt work

[heady sand]

ok thanks

gotmega doesn't work at all, just realized why

i replaced the function to fix the animations but forgot the re-add the trigger for the rule

@noble swallow don't press any of the directions after jumping on the spinner

I should've made it clearer in the level design but eh

[heady sand]

Known bug: "ExplodeLevel" action sometimes only works for host. This is half intentional, because otherwise it would trigger the server anticheat and kick everyone. I might try to fix it later

[pearl garnet]

NOOOO

Oh wait

YEEEEEEEES

[heady sand]

skull

[spare swift]

hmmm where have i seen this before

[heady sand]

must've been a dream

[noble swallow]

is there a condition for when you reach the checkpoint

[heady sand]

nope, but good idea

[noble swallow]

cool i think

[neat turret]

the every x seconds event happens once per player and not only one time

[heady sand]

Alright

[craggy iris]

thats suppossed to happen?

i mean its "every"

[heady sand]

every x seconds, it happens as many times as players there are

[craggy iris]

?

so like

if there 2 players

it only happens twice?

[heady sand]

if you set it so a powerup spawns every 5 seconds and there are 2 players, it will spawn two powerups every 5 seconds

[neat turret]

why is it that way

[craggy iris]

o

[heady sand]

3 players, 3 powerups...

it only happens for things like coins, stars, powerups, enemies... all these things that can spawn or get added to you (so you won't lik, die three times or whatever!)

[heady sand]

networking is hard and I haven't figured it out yet

I must make it so it checks with the host, and it syncs up... but it's buggy and unstable and hateful

[neat turret]

sad but i get it

[unique pulsar]

This was misery

It's possible without powerups and all I used were mushrooms but it was painful

Also didn't use respawn i-frames to cheese

[heady sand]

Damn, props to you

I imagine you had to wall jump a lot

[unique pulsar]

I got through every level besides al-jungle

Ye pretty much

A lot of it requires good timing with the blocks

7-6 requires either a shell suit or a propeller from what I've gathered and 6-2 requires a mini or propeller followed by a shell suit later

Everything else I think is possible itemless

Besides AL jungle cuz I'm lost on that one

Maybe propeller could work but I somehow doubt it

[heady sand]

The little zigzag part near the end has to be impossible without pressing right. There isn't enough space to wall jump to accel

[craggy iris]

damn when was that stage so hard

[unique pulsar]

I made it so if you press right you die

[craggy iris]

ooooh

that explains it

[unique pulsar]

It was honestly fine, died 3 or 4 times trying to enter that part but once I was in I got out the other end in about a minute I think

[heady sand]

Ah

[unique pulsar]

It would be a lot easier if I didn't have a mushroom

[heady sand]

Btw, offtopic, but I've never realized how ORANGE this stage looks. I swear it looked milder when I was actually playing

[unique pulsar]

Ye it's very orange actually

Imma try see if I can get a no death run tomorrow using the face right = death rule and take out the 8 coins for item setting

[heady sand]

Awesome, gl

[pearl garnet]

@heady sand I know it's really really late but when you wake up and see this I hope you do a 15 second command

[vagrant surge]

@heady sand timer exploit, hitting reset run while respawning doesnt set you back to the original spawnpoint if you have the checkpoint, but it does reset the timer https://streamable.com/mai6pw

[neat turret]

:o

[vagrant surge]

also coins, the cycle, and enemies dont properly reset either which is annoying

50% of the time i get cucked by the cycle

30% of the time its an enemy that didnt properly reset

15% of the time its a powerup that didnt despawn / coins that dont reset

😔

i can have the most amazing run and then i get cycled by the rng wall

https://streamable.com/yypv2z

regardless. 21.725
https://streamable.com/aigc9o

[craggy iris]

same

also add these emois because ys

[tame bear]

[heady sand]

Oh no

[heady sand]

Yea unfortunately it's not very clean. Maybe I can make it better later

[craggy iris]

id say have the star effect/refresh when the button is hit

[heady sand]

I hope this is acceptable

[quartz sun]

Clickbait water

[heady sand]

sorry

[pearl garnet]

Fugazi water, as walter jr would say "I want the real thing not this fake crap" (/j ofc)

[heady sand]

Cooking up a new idea
(may or may not be a thing)
I'm open for suggestions 👍

[tardy sentinel]

floor is lava

[quartz sun]

no ground

[tardy sentinel]

no ground but fancier

no coins

[craggy iris]

oh shit

add an option to have smb powerup losing system or make it so you intantly die when you get harmed even when you have a fire flower or something

[heady sand]

that can be sorta done with Harmed .. ActKillPlayer

[craggy iris]

ig

[pearl garnet]

WHAT THE FUCK

NO GROUND???/

THIS IS MIYAVMEOW HORSESHITERY

[deft oasis]

B-side

[heady sand]

it's just a mockup, worse things may be added :)

[pearl garnet]

Huh?

[pearl garnet]

man

don't

[deft oasis]

MvL B-sides when

[craggy iris]

Haha jonathan its raining spinies

[craggy iris]

i cant wait to play as orange mario

[deft oasis]

Teehee

[pearl garnet]

My name is bill, not william, bill

[neat turret]

Playing on reverse gravity with some adjustments to not make infinite death pit

[pearl garnet]

Reverse gravity

that just sounds like vic's mod is entering shitpost territory

and that's no good

[heady sand]

No, no... It's a "customize everything" mod. Aka "toggles everywhere"

[neat turret]

wasnt it already there

[pearl garnet]

Customise everything but not go overboard

[deft oasis]

No this mod is too good to be called a shitpost

[neat turret]

Frantic mode

[pearl garnet]

unlike other mods

[deft oasis]

Yeah

[pearl garnet]

Still are you adding the 15 sec suggestion

[heady sand]

it's up to the host to make a stinky poopoo ruleset or a fun and acceptable one

[heady sand]

I'll see
It's already almost too many timers going on

[deft oasis]

I entirely agree Vic

[pearl garnet]

Still don't give too much air for the former

[deft oasis]

This is why we should make it so deathmatch leaks your IP

[pearl garnet]

I mean most of it is good enough

[pearl garnet]

For once I thought it'd be a serious statement

[deft oasis]

It is

[heady sand]

if you lose it sends your public IP into chat
ok

[pearl garnet]

Low gravity and no enemies seems fun, but no ground seems cursed

[deft oasis]

iPod take NOTES

[pearl garnet]

Ping him then

[deft oasis]

@vagrant surge
Hi Bestie

[neat turret]

all enemies are [ ]

[heady sand]

I've still got to consider all of this. Again, it's just a mockup so don't expect things to stay the same as in this pic
I'm kinda thinking more of player controls or physics modifiers, you know, speed, jump, gravity, uhhh maybe even mega timer... spawn rate dunno

[deft oasis]

Fun fact about mega timer

In Cubby Mod there's a variable in GameManager called "FuckYou", and if it is true, mega lasts for 2 seconds

I use it in maps like Taco Bell and 7x7 Square

[heady sand]

Awesome

As it should be

[pearl garnet]

I can deal with that, but put limits to these customisations as the lobby will become quite questionable even by the worst of hosts

[neat turret]

N o .

make a new coding language vic

[pearl garnet]

Let me guess it is inspired by that smiley clown face

In distancy

[deft oasis]

No Stinker was made after that

[heady sand]

Ok

[neat turret]

if (name = Bilhal) { player.spawnRate = [1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0] }

[pearl garnet]

Bro's willing to climb a mountain

[deft oasis]

I made Stinker because Leafy found a way to cheese a boss fight

[pearl garnet]

Leafy government name

[pearl garnet]

I have seen this one quite a lot

[deft oasis]

Yeah that's the cheese in the boss fight

And the result

[pearl garnet]

Like a pinch mode?

[deft oasis]

Yeah

And I know god damn well that MiiBumm is gonna spend 3 days nonstop trying to complete the fight with Stinker onscreen

[pearl garnet]

he is too good for 3 days

[deft oasis]

@mild dome
Should I make Stinker faster

[spare swift]

damn right

[mild dome]

make him able to kill carl and rocko and make stinker boss!! that has insane music and that you cant beat!

(this is a joke just make him faster lol)

[deft oasis]

You got it Leafy

[neat turret]

schooo get off this channel now off the topicicing is unlegal!

[quiet summit]

I kind of want to take a break from what I'm doing and race

who's up

[heady sand]

maybe someone's gonna join if you post an lfg

I could come in later

[quiet summit]

argggggg vic why did you remove the warp zone in 1-2

[heady sand]

sorrry, no warp zones in race maps!!

[quiet summit]

lmao ok

[quiet summit]

that was fun

[heady sand]

ye, shame we couldn't race a lot, maybe next time!

[quiet summit]

yup

probably going to be in the summer though

I still have to get my art lessons

I found a teacher though

and by summer I don't mean far away since I live juuuust outside of the US

[heady sand]

is summer like, later in US?

[quiet summit]

Summer break from what I've heard of starts in June

[heady sand]

Oh right

[quiet summit]

but in the island I am currently in, break starts in May

[heady sand]

cool, that's super close

[quiet summit]

yup

[heady sand]

I shouldn't have created the Every1Sec action kinda considering removing it

[craggy iris]

make it secret

like 10 transparency

[heady sand]

hm, good idea

[wide terrace]

So how have things been going with this mod?

[heady sand]

Very well, I've released an update a couple of days ago after a break
Now planning new experimental features and maps

[craggy iris]

the mod just died sometime and realived as soon as a new update released lol

i love the spawnenemy action

[heady sand]

Exactly

[pearl garnet]

I am extremely mixed about the spawn enemy action

[heady sand]

cool, very neat

[craggy iris]

can you tell me how to get the banzai bill to work when you finish it

[heady sand]

I cloned the bulletbill prefab, and replaced the animation with a banzai sheet I got. Also made the hitbox bigger
Also, also, cloned the bulletbilllauncher prefab to spawn in the correct banzai prefab instead
I can pass you all the stuff I used hang on

[craggy iris]

i have the sprites but just cant figure out how to make new animations or replace already existing ones

[heady sand]

here's what i've got

[craggy iris]

bilhal reference

[heady sand]

unintended bilhal referen

[pearl garnet]

🤨

cool

I am a zip file now

[deft oasis]

William Hal

[pearl garnet]

NOOOOOO

THEY CALLED ME WILLIAM

[craggy iris]

bill afton

[pearl garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dzPcy9VyfQ

me rn:

[craggy iris]

what

[pearl garnet]

scream

[craggy iris]

ok

[quiet summit]

However, I can try and keep playing

I wanted to say that I felt more sure I was going to play during the summer

these days I now have to check

[pearl garnet]

School year isn't over yet

[quiet summit]

Who is SNESController

I know that's a joke

and NESController

[heady sand]

Disclaimer: if your rule prompt looks like this, I'll ignore any of your bug reports lol
hope you're having fun tho

[quiet summit]

oh

so it sends reports?

[heady sand]

no I mean if you explicit tell me in here of a bug you've found

in matches with so many rules, the game is super unstable so telling me there are bugs wouldn't make a lot of sense

[mild dome]

true once you start putting a ton of rules its not really

traceable LMAO

[heady sand]

exaactly

[quiet summit]

alrighty lol

uh oh

I think I can't spawn LMAO

I love this mod

[heady sand]

happy to hear that

[quiet summit]

now

who is NESController and SNESController?

show yourselves forwardd...

[heady sand]

not me

[quiet summit]

You were in the lobby though

[quiet summit]

evidenced by this

[heady sand]

I was in for just a second while it was In-Progress

to take a peek

[quiet summit]

Ah

I have a huge feeling Wega was one of them

He is such a silly goober

[quiet summit]

I have the most amazing idea

"Do not the coin"

it's basically avoid the coins, but you don't just die from it

something funny happens too

Here's how to do it:

1. Add the rule "ReachedCoinLimit..ActGiveCoin"
2. Make max coins 1
3. For the love of god avoid the coins

[heady sand]

It crashes :)

Don't worry I already fixed it for next version (sorry)

[quiet summit]

awwww

it was good though

but I understand why you'd want to fix it

[heady sand]

Yea... As you can see I'm trying to catch all "recursive" rules because it usually harms everyone who's in the lobby

[deft oasis]

You should let only Freeze do recursive rules

[heady sand]

Fair
I haven't got their ID tho

[deft oasis]

@bleak bone
Your calling is here

[mild dome]

when can i poo shart in vic mod

find out when i

[quiet summit]

you should add futbol emoji

[heady sand]

Ok

[bleak bone]

wd

[deft oasis]

40

[bleak bone]

what is my id

@clyde

[deft oasis]

You gotta open the mod and get it

[bleak bone]

ong

[quiet summit]

Please keep this in

[craggy iris]

vic new ruleset

last coin, givestar
bumped/knockedback/hurt/died, removecoin

hm

got an idea

what if we can make some rules numbered

like getstar give 5 coin

disqualify lose all stars

i might get abused tho

[deft oasis]

Disqualify .. ActWinPlayer

3 IQ

[craggy iris]

disqualify 2 times to win

epic troll

[pearl garnet]

Don't

[quiet summit]

I have a feeling I pissed someone off while playing the mod

[heady sand]

ooo, what did you do?

[quiet summit]

they like it actually

[heady sand]

cool, cool

[quiet summit]

half of the time I play this I end up giving someone else host

[heady sand]

this video doesn't make sense without sound

[tardy sentinel]

bah

[heady sand]

can't wait to see people die to enemies that bah them

[craggy iris]

BWAH

[pearl garnet]

Even without sounds you can guess what it refers to

[heady sand]

I'm tempted to release a new version sometime this weekend, but I wanted to know if any of ya had any more levels (or persistent rules) they wanted to see being added??

[pearl garnet]

Why did you ask

do it NOW

don't take any more suggestions

[heady sand]

but I need more CONTENT
ALL of nsmbds in vcmi NOW

(jk)

[pearl garnet]

I told you about 15 sec and the rest had their demands

now GO

GO

PLEASE

[heady sand]

worry not, for as 15 second has been added

not even one more teeny tiny level for 17.0.7? :(

Ok I'll stop

[pearl garnet]

Nah I think you should speed

[heady sand]

Ok fine, I'll release it tonight to test out the new feature cause I can't do it alone. lemme fix up some emotes first though, it'll take little

it's not that big of an update anyway, but I might be deprecating it without noticing lol

[craggy iris]

i dont think u should rush him

we wouldnt want a buggy thing

[heady sand]

I think it'll be OK, had plenty of bugfixing sessions + I can't really test further alone

[quiet summit]

bruh

I end up fucking giving the room to someone else every time I host a room

[heady sand]

gabriel always comes begging for host in spanish

[quiet summit]

LMAO

the lobby ended up crashing by ServerLogic

[craggy iris]

lol yea

why does bro not host himself

[heady sand]

This message now refers to an old version. Please check the pins of this thread for the latest.
||New version: 17.0.7 has just been released.
• 5 new persistent effects (changes physics, terrain and more).
• New sets of rules: Got Checkpoint condition, Bah'd condition, Random teleport action. Every1Sec condition has been replaced by Every15Sec.
• Many tiling issues fixed, including some new enemies in existing levels.
• 3 new emotes.
• "Hard reset" button for speedrunners. Restarts the level, but might kick spectators out.
• Other smaller stuff and fixes!!

https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/tag/v17.0.7
This release is mostly for playtesting the new features so...||

[deft oasis]

Let's goooooo

Proud of you Vic

[pearl garnet]

👏

[heady sand]

Damn, thx

[pearl garnet]

Congratulations vicster

[quiet summit]

yay

[raw shuttle]

congraț, vic

[heady sand]

thank you, akselai

[craggy iris]

welp that survival rulesets dead unless you made it secret

[wild bane]

ooo hard reset

very nice

[heady sand]

yup, a faster way to restart the level without visiting the menu

[vague bison]

You need to fix this @heady sand

I’m on version 17.0.7

[heady sand]

It's been fixed yesterday, please re-download the same version

Oh hold on!!

You use Mac, right?

[vague bison]

Yeah

[heady sand]

I completely forgot to update that one. Sorry, I'll do it when I wake up

[vague bison]

Sounds good, this bug gives me portal vibes ngl

And thanks Vic

[heady sand]

No probs

[quartz sun]

make it a feature

you warp from the bottom to TOP*!*

[vagrant surge]

what level is supposed to wrap like this?

[vague bison]

It happened on all the Vic levels. I was on Mac. This was the only time I got stuck.

[craggy iris]

PORTAL

[vague bison]

Exactly

[heady sand]

It's literally already a feature that can be toggled on or off lol
However, I forgot to sync it to the toggle and it remained active forever

macos build updated too, btw

[vagrant surge]

lol that’s cool

[neat turret]

3x knockback when

[craggy iris]

can you add a "auto jump"

[heady sand]

Auto jump when?

I mean what would cause it

[craggy iris]

all the time

[heady sand]

O

[neat turret]

more like pogo stick rule

[craggy iris]

ues

[pearl garnet]

Spiderman no way home reference

[static ridge]

minor bug

but the offsets in the loading screen

[quiet summit]

Gabriel started manipulating my lobby and then I told him in Spanish if he wanted to be host again and I just gave that to him then left

[vague bison]

Thanks Vic

[pearl garnet]

Who's gabriel

[tulip quiver]

apparently a person who keeps joining people's lobbies and begging for host in spanish (#1059200579924148245 message)

[craggy iris]

yes

i had that guy ask me

3 times in the same lobby

[pearl garnet]

He's some alternate super Mario now?

[quiet summit]

(Cringe and loud warning I can't make TTS scream)

[pearl garnet]

Another day in wii classic controller lore

[quartz sun]

imagine the vanilla game had that

[quiet summit]

Gabriel jumpscare

[heady sand]

free bricks anywhere you go

[molten bear]

couldn't this cause softlocks like if a star is too far away and the platforms meant to reach it are broken

[heady sand]

Yes, that's definitely a risk

[molten bear]

really funny tho still
spinner into death

[craggy iris]

mfw i accidentally fall while trying to get everyone spawn killed

[pearl garnet]

What happened in this

Persistent effects

Cool

[heady sand]

yes

[craggy iris]

is a new version out

[heady sand]

17.0.7 from two days ago is the latest one

that vid is more of a development peek

[craggy iris]

is the one with the effects out

[heady sand]

yes

[craggy iris]

o

thats what i asked for, cool!

[heady sand]

oh nice nice

[heady sand]

here if you need the changelog and link

[craggy iris]

idea: make some of the blocks indestructable metal blocks to make the level possible in every possibility

also maybe you can add bahs to existing songs, there are good places for them

[heady sand]

I don't feel comfortable modifying the existing songs lol

[craggy iris]

help

[heady sand]

What are you doing there!

[craggy iris]

i had deathpane with blue shell and i just got inside the ground

im going

luigi was never seen again

[heady sand]

the only escape is restarting the level

[craggy iris]

yup

[heady sand]

wow mario watch out

[static ridge]

can you work a little more on the end pole? like maybe add a proper stand and it slides

and by "proper stand" I mean those little bricks that held the flagpole

[neat turret]

vics videos never work on mobile it’s so infuriating

[heady sand]

discord is very iffy with video formats and i hate it

[static ridge]

they work for me on mobile

[spare swift]

i’m assuming the snow falls

[spare swift]

i can’t see it cus this

[heady sand]

t

Yeah, snow falls when you approach it, and it knocks you out when touching it

[tardy sentinel]

dissapearing branches

[quiet summit]

coinless run baby

argggg the video was supposed to be 100 fps more!!!

[heady sand]

the sped up footage made me chuckle idk
well done tho

[quiet summit]

thank you vic

[vagrant surge]

yaeformewigi

[quiet summit]

from my experience, doing coinless runs is a lot riskier with low gravity

well, not a lot, but still

[neat turret]

oh yeah you used the self destruct rules too

[craggy iris]

idea: add timer for before flag pole too

[wild bane]

nathaniel bandy moment

[pearl garnet]

They worked on my phone

[pearl garnet]

5-1???

[heady sand]

ye

[pearl garnet]

This video when fast seemed to have an exceptional amount of FPS

[quiet summit]

It’s super blurry lol

[random ocean]

gonna try the new update, lets see how this goes

@heady sand how do I download it?

I tried going to https://github.com/vlcoo/VicMvsLO/releases/tag/v17.0.7

and then downloading the win64.zip thing

[neat turret]

yes

[random ocean]

and it wouldn't load due to a missing DLL

[heady sand]

extract everything from the zip first

[random ocean]

I did that

but IG I'll do it again

also, will you add star coins?

in the future?

that sounds like an idea

[heady sand]

hm, might consider it

[random ocean]

okay I got it to work 😄

[heady sand]

awesome

[pearl garnet]

Not sure if it'll work

[neat turret]

Tbh a way to reward precise movements by allowing people to win even if they don't reach the goal first (don't kill everyone when a person touches the flag) would be cool

maybe "Bonuses" that remove 5 seconds off your time

and people that already won can fuck around

[heady sand]

I don't think I got all of that

[neat turret]

Well basically, it's not a "First person to reach the goal makes the game end"

it's "Everyone tries to get to the flag (with a 30 second timer after the first person reaches it to not last an eternity)"

So the game shows a leaderboard of all the players with their times, and there are bonuses awarded like
Most coins collected, Most powerups collected, Most enemies killed, Least jumps, Least amount of time spent running, Most time spent ducking, Checkpoint bonus (this might favour the winner more if they don't make any mistakes), Most/Least deaths, etc.

The bonuses along with the eventual star coins each shave X seconds off the players' timers

Second leaderboard. Tallying. Winner announced. End

• the winners can EVENTUALLY stay in the game after they reach the goal, but their actions don't count towards the bonuses, and they MAY be able to hit other players (Might be too chaotic and annoying to deal with though)

So you'd have to try to be balanced between being fast and collecting stuff

The bonuses can be chosen at random or all at once (might make it too chaotic)

[random ocean]

Just got a 23.929 6-Castle

[heady sand]

Ok I get it now
I really like these ideas flichka
Rn thinking up some delightfully devilish ways to implement them

[neat turret]

:p

[vagrant surge]

so like gourmet race from kirby

[neat turret]

not exactly

[vagrant surge]

mixed with Mario party bonus stars lol

[neat turret]

the main focus of gourmet race is the food you collect and wins only add +30 to the score you get

kind of the opposite

[quiet summit]

SO CLOSE

looks like I opened the game a little bit prematurely

[spare swift]

dies

comes back

[heady sand]

clearly cheating

[spare swift]

chating

[quiet summit]

danggg I got busted

I just like that rule

[heady sand]

yea it's fun

my favourite one has to be th low gravity lol, just looks funny to me

[quiet summit]

probably the first time I revealed my voice outside VC (though I added it to post to show my reaction and I wasn't recording while recording the clip) outside of that one time I posted my scream from the time someone was hunting me down in VRchat

[wild bane]

discord video just doesn't work for me sometimes

weird

[quiet summit]

same

[static ridge]

transcript:
"oh my fucking god"

[craggy iris]

script:
gaming footage

[quartz sun]

world 5-C sucks balls to speedrun

[quiet summit]

Transcript:
[Music]
Oh my [ __ ] god
to
[Laughter]
yes linguini
[Applause]

[deft oasis]

@heady sand
I just got a cursed idea that you will probably reject but I want to say it anyway

What if there were... Extreme rules
That could be enabled or disabled by the player because of how extreme they are

Things like ActionBanFromLobby, ActionCrashGame, ActionIPBan

[mild dome]

Okay that just sounds like cubby mod if it had vic mod stuff and idk...thats kindaaa....shit.......

[deft oasis]

Maybe not the last one

[heady sand]

Jesus

[mild dome]

exactly

[heady sand]

i mean it's funny to think about

[deft oasis]

ActionBluescreen /j

[mild dome]

in practice giving every host that power with so little rooms is uh

sounds bad

[deft oasis]

Yeah that's why the players can choose whether or not to be effected by it

Like it's a client setting

[mild dome]

Ohhhh then its just pointless

cuz it will be used like once or twice

and only 2 people will use it prolly us💀

[deft oasis]

I can think of more actions if you were to ever consider it for like an April Fools thing Vic

[heady sand]

i could mak some of those lik secrt or hidden away

because if i just add them next to the normal ones even more ppl's gonna hate this mod lmao I've already seen random users leave the lobby because of shiddy rulesets others make

[mild dome]

LMFAO

[heady sand]

do send me ideas whatever they might be, i still consider them usually lol

[mild dome]

idea: make it so vic mod give virus

[deft oasis]

ActionRickRoll

[heady sand]

ransom until you pass AL-Jungle coinless

[deft oasis]

ActionSetTo15FPS

Eh that one's not great

ActionTurnAllInvisible (Only for the client)

[heady sand]

ok i might turn that one into an actual persistent rule
sounds worthy

[mild dome]

[heady sand]

lik the terrain being invisible or something

[mild dome]

give me all your money

!!

[heady sand]

...ok i'll!

[mild dome]

thank you vic...

[vagrant surge]

average quirky!1!1!! fnf mod

[deft oasis]

TRUE

SO TRUE IPOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quartz sun]

by the player

so the not host

[deft oasis]

Yes

[quartz sun]

it should be forced on for you since it's your idea

[deft oasis]

Yeah I don't see why not?

[lucid locust]

Two cubbys talking in their natural habitat.

[craggy iris]

and one cubby fan

[heady sand]

what a goofy

[lucid locust]

are you gonna add hanging?

[heady sand]

nope, sorry

[spare swift]

once again it won’t load but i see fire bars so i know what it is

which i find funny

[tardy sentinel]

finally

[quiet summit]

ooooh

I wish you could import and export rulesets instead of manually setting the same rules every time. Is that possible in some way? Just asking

[heady sand]

dunno how safe that might be...

[quiet summit]

why?

[heady sand]

i'm kinda scared to mess up with the writing/reading of the savedata of the game

or file handling and stuff

i might make it happen in a slightly different way though

[quiet summit]

alright I understand

I wish I could make a race stage one day...

[quartz sun]

punishment

[static ridge]

my mind immediately went to mario with a noose around his neck

[quiet summit]

I can't believe we're getting a TTYD sequel

[craggy iris]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/909152643610472478.png?size=160&name=fskull

[lucid locust]

in 5-C, try to bring the first buzzy beetle to the goal.
i call the challenge "Buddy Beets"

also i extracted his model if you want to use it

i also have the rotating cannon model

[heady sand]

Cool cool

[heady sand]

i don't like this challenge because it gave me trust issues

[lucid locust]

i did it

[craggy iris]

frien

[deft oasis]

I have never seen this level with bricks below the red blocks

Shows you how fucked the rules I play with are

[heady sand]

The hell

someone's been abusing the explode level action

[quiet summit]

Freezin’ the blocks to death

[neat turret]

what’s the bah action

[heady sand]

when the song does the Bah

[neat turret]

sky doesn’t bah tho

[heady sand]

yea none of the "versus" maps have bahs

so that rule won't have effect in there
most of the race levels do though

[neat turret]

i just thought of .. ActSpinner

[heady sand]

lmao

[deft oasis]

Hmmm

I thought of a possible persistent effect

Deathplane on both sides

Would go well with ActSpinner

[heady sand]

Oo
Or to punish propeller abusers

[static ridge]

is there a random effect in game yet?

[heady sand]

Nope. Will try to add

[static ridge]

i have an idea

the constant rule

the constant rule of the level not looping

[heady sand]

ok I like that one too. will see if it works in practice

[deft oasis]

It makes Pipes loop

[craggy iris]

yea thatd be amazing

itd be even more amazing if you dont even remove the pipes at the sides so you still have to take the yellow pipe

[pearl garnet]

Man this has become crazy suggestion hub

[neat turret]

Ah shit it’s the grumpy man

[pearl garnet]

That's rich

[neat turret]

You forgot the coming from you part

[pearl garnet]

I didn't need to put it

[neat turret]

aw

well i’m neither of those things

[heady sand]

Yea suggestions in here have been crazy these last days

I don't mind it tho since it sparks inspiration in me for potential future versions

[heady sand]

when I some day abandon this project, the last update shall have the main menu theme replaced by this

[vagrant surge]

[quartz sun]

https://youtu.be/TXtQPjduZxg

FUCK

[austere skiff]

imagine no rules

couldn't be me

[quartz sun]

imagine the mod had this

I have to add text for all 25 minutes of this

just a timer, for events like teleporting

[neat turret]

there’s surely a better way to do that

a gif would be way more efficient