#this better not suck (unfinished)

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olive remnant
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idk how to mix so don't say "aH tHiS sUcKs aNd yOu sUcK aT mIxInG" i'm okay if you say "boring, beat drop is disappointing" even though that would hurt a lot. (it doesn't have a beat drop cuz it's orchestral music so...) i made this song because i'm going insane with everything that's happening irl. this is part one: introit. i hope you don't hate it.

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olive remnant
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idk about the last part

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give me tips to improve it

halcyon panther
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there is no beat drop here,orchestral music does can have beat drops too though

olive remnant
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tips on which instrument samples to use?

halcyon panther
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paid ones would automatically sound better

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there are some free options via kontakt though

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lemme link the free ones I reccomend

olive remnant
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alr i'll try

halcyon panther
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do you know of kontakt?

olive remnant
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yea

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ik ludwig goransson used it

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could you link some here

halcyon panther
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let me ask you something

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are you looking to make orchestral music

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or do you have other inspiration

olive remnant
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my first time

halcyon panther
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because if you really wanna learn orchestral music I suggest u learn how string sections work like
violins1,violin2,viola,cello,double bass

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what do you know about chords

olive remnant
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i have a theory class

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ik some harmony

halcyon panther
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great

olive remnant
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but don't overestimate me

halcyon panther
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I can give u a quick rundown on how to give one note to each instrument in the string sections

olive remnant
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ok

halcyon panther
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lemme send screenshot rq 1 sec

olive remnant
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sry i was downloading the plugin

halcyon panther
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np

olive remnant
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hold on it'll take a while to download

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nvm that was fast

halcyon panther
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it's pretty simple

olive remnant
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so a basic c major chord

halcyon panther
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so the higher pitches go to the higher stringed instruments
lower to lower
so:
violin 1 to C5
violin 2 to G4
viola to E4
cello to C4
and contrabass/bass to C3

olive remnant
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alr

halcyon panther
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same thing here

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c3 is contrabass
G is celli
B is viola
G4 is violin 2
c5 is violins 1

olive remnant
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yea i understand now

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so what exactly does it change

halcyon panther
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but it explains where you put your stringed instruments at

olive remnant
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sound-wise i mean

halcyon panther
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well soundwise using better orchestral samples it will sound more realistic ofc

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and this technique is used in real string orchestration

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bruh

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im tryna send demonstration audio 😭

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bot flagged 🥀

olive remnant
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lol it's okay

halcyon panther
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rip

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ima brb,maybe I can dm u in a bit and show u ?

olive remnant
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sure

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downloading kontakt and spitfire rn

elder viper
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Hard to give alot of criticism because this is still pretty short but honestly i think a more variety in sound would be better. It feels a little too soft for the genre and maybe some layering with slightly harsher would be cool

halcyon panther
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"layering with something harsher"
I doubt the original poster is gonna know what that harsher thing is gonna be if they are new

elder viper
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Or give more detail

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First of all i feel its very lacking in low end. just add maybe another instrument following bass notes in a lower octave nothing crazy but thats what i personally would do.
Second of all everything feels like it has been stuffed through a fruity convolver. I dont know if that was from sound choice or what but it just feels kinda weak and doesnt really bring any power. This espescially hurts the part from 0:16 to 0:20 imo, it all feels like its mixing together
Also it feels like most of the instruments are on the same octave in the first part which is fine but with the sounds being very soft it just kinda of mixes together and its hard to tell one melody/instrument from another

I will say the vox/chorus kind of sounds are actually pretty good and i think that should stay. also the notes themselves sound fine i think it is just the sound design.

I dont listen to much orchestral so if some of this is normal in orchestral music then please correct me

exotic tide
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Fye

subtle helm
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this is cool giving kingdom hearts a little lol

remote bison
harsh fog
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Too much harmonic dissonance would be the right words (in the contrary motion section), and a lack of percussion if it is orchestral. The build/tension is also missing its release. Also not much going on there rhythmically, feels like there's no distinct melody, more like everything's melody and harmony at the same time. Where's the bass?

I don't compose a lot of classical or orchestral so it's based off kinda being in one, don't make all the parts exciting or none them will be, there's a viola/violin 1 part for a reason, (which is generally harder than violin 2 or 3). Another thing to mention is you should probably not be using FL/a DAW to make orchestral/classical/jazz, unless it's a specific type of fusion that calls for it. The pro composition software costs a lot but musecore is free and is better than any DAW for what you're doing. (Pro ones are Dorico/Sibellius, Sibellius is better nowadays, but it is like $300 yearly)

tacit pier
olive remnant
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i'll take your advice

halcyon panther
# harsh fog Too much harmonic dissonance would be the right words (in the contrary motion se...

well in the orchestra you can use brass and woodwinds to add accents
which will make the part much more unique compared to the rest if the rest only uses like strings/winds
" viola/violin 1 part for a reason, (which is generally harder than violin 2 or 3)."
violin 3?
there is only violin1 and 2(you can get more by using divsi where you divide the orchestra into smaller sections but it might sound weak),violas,celli,contrabass

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you can do orchestral perfectly fine in FL but looking into other daws is a good idea

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if you want a final product / actual music audio
getting that audio requires exporting it from those sheet softwares back into a daw for mixing and other dynamic adjustments

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this isn't that dissonant in my opinion in any of the parts

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it's the mix that isn't very clear and the instruments aren't high quality

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which panning can fix this probably pretty quick, other then that it just needs to be developed

halcyon lagoon
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honestly just change the samples and mix it better, id reccomend using more mix on the choir to not make it feel detached and instead making it feel like an actual choir is singing. this is a good song but these things would make it better

frosty fiber
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Sounds alright.

halcyon panther
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the feedback people are giving are so vague 🥶

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like don't give feedback if it's gonna cause doubt in a bad way

mild snow
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This sounds incredibly. This pass me the vibe of a Nier game for some reason

terse steppe