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#Orchestral Megathread
cinder ferry
i dont actually, maybe the problem is my headset
cinder ferry
i thought the limiter already did the job
drowsy lake
it sounds like you increased the gain if anything
drowsy lake
you can leave the input gain the same if it will change your mix that much
the output gain tho
cinder ferry
oh
cinder ferry
let me check again
cinder ferry
the gain is defaulted middle i tuned it to the left
you mean the "noise gate" gain?
cinder ferry
maybe i should tune the gain down more
drowsy lake
yeah or EQ
turn down the mid
in your master
overall the composition sounds muddy
you'd produce a cleaner sound especially with your piano if you cut the mids
cinder ferry
drowsy lake
see that shape?
ALL of the sound is in the mid
you should distribute your instruments along all the frequency ranges if possible
everything is fighting
try some panning too
the center is too strong right now
cinder ferry
i did the pan, i left the piano on the left and choir on the right
maybe its too loud
drowsy lake
but the piano is dead middle
and it moves occasionally
which causes a strange effect tbh
drowsy lake
your piano seems to have a built in panning system that moves with the scale
higher octaves move to right and lower to left
so your panning is mostly overwritten
cinder ferry
😭
drowsy lake
mixing is hard
i'd say to focus on the EQ and give each instrument its own position
right now everything is all in the middle
even if you pan them i cant hear them distinctly
which means you either have them sharing the same frequencies or did not pan them enough
in this case its both
cinder ferry
i'd say to focus on the EQ and give each instrument its own position
i'll focus on this in future track, maybe after i get a new headset, this one accidentally drop to the ground so much now its panned slightly to the left...
drowsy lake
cinder ferry
damn
drowsy lake
the only reason i havent gotten a new one is because im extremely particular about the sound. i have a new one but it sounds slightly different. (not enough bass)
cinder ferry
and the volume of this one kinda problematic, i am now 100 volume on window and also 100 on discord but still not loud enough
drowsy lake
oh hell nah
cinder ferry
but your feedbacks kinda help me cue the sounds in theory so i might do the next mixing in my imagination better
drowsy lake
np
nimble ridge
not bad, it's musical but it sounds kinda lifeless, also the phrases are a bit weird like it feels like the music never really resolves
1 sec lemme try and point out specific parts
0-45(goes into the piano but never really resolves the guitar to anything) 45-1:15(the melody doesn't feel like a continuation of the melody before) 1:15-1:20(what is the reason behind this,I see 0 reason to go up here) speeds up at 1:20 for no reason??
at 1:49 you have some sort of resolving a bit, that's a start, most of the rest is real similar though
listen to some music and notice how it resolves or starts at certain points, then try to use it in your own music
cinder ferry
0-45(goes into the piano but never really resolves the guitar to anything) 45-1:...
the whole non-resolve thing is the aiming for the "lost" theme in the title, 45-1:15 i agree on this, its actually just entire different chords progression, the point of 1:15 to 1:23 is just ear candy in disguise( thats the whole idea of it ) originally i put this piano at the end of this but kinda reconsider and chose the guitar instead to leave the sense of the character actually no longer have a body and disappear...
nimble ridge
i'll give an example in my own music where u can hear resolving
first idea:
from 0-16 and resolves and starts back up at 20sec
20-33 pause then start back up 34-48 sec
second idea 48-->1:04
1:06 = end
so here you have a clear one section,second section and end
nimble ridge
the whole non-resolve thing is the aiming for the "lost" theme in the title, 45-...
sad music resolves, so does lost music, some music just takes a while to resolve
music resolving is a part of what makes it have an emotion and gives that feeling of tension and release
if there is no release for tension it can start sounding just like noise, with no identity
cinder ferry
i may need to look more at this "resolve" tech
thanks for very specific feedbacks gonna try harder in future track
nimble ridge
i may need to look more at this "resolve" tech
learning what basic musical cadences are can help out a lot
if yk bout roman numerals and chords n stuff it becomes much easier
cadences are basically just a set of chords that end off certain sections(since each chord has a role each one plays its part)
cinder ferry
i just actually learn music for around a month here, i've heard about cadences but literally not understand anything
😭
roman numerals
nimble ridge
id send some examples but this forum thing doesn't allow audio sometimes
nimble ridge
kk
nimble ridge
yeah
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shrewd python
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ohh u changed the mix. it feels weaker
shrewd python
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now the tempo is awesome
drowsy lake
had to reduce because some weird static noise was happening
shrewd python
I wonder how u mixed this one. is it an eq in piano and reverb? lacks low and mid freqs
shrewd python
had to reduce because some weird static noise was happening
oh alr
drowsy lake
I wonder how u mixed this one. is it an eq in piano and reverb? lacks low and mi...
are you on speaker
shrewd python
it would work pretty good in genshin
drowsy lake
i will not be developing this one
shrewd python
look blanket this is what i was talking about
look at the green dot
the frequency thats messing everything up is there
look at the whole video
shrewd python
lolol
yes
and the reverb amplifies that. maybe without reverb it wouldnt be that bad
drowsy lake
i just realized that you DONT use fl studio wtf
shrewd python
yeppp
drowsy lake
what is that
shrewd python
not for orchestral stuff
shrewd python
what is that
studio one 7
tho i dont know if i can talk about other daws in the fl server lol
shrewd python
ohh alr
drowsy lake
i thought you were a wizard on fl studio
shrewd python
bro thats crazy.
whgat thing
shrewd python
i thought you were a wizard on fl studio
lmaooo
drowsy lake
im making orchestra on fl studio
shrewd python
fl studio is meant for tech, for mixing and stuff
drowsy lake
so hard to automate
shrewd python
so hard to automate
DUDE
that plugin i had to use for using the cc1 and cc11
i dont remember how its called
how do u automate?
shrewd python
CHANNEL VOLUME
drowsy lake
I... draw and type parameters in directly
shrewd python
mf
drowsy lake
LMAO
shrewd python
use the cc1 and cc11
drowsy lake
wtf is that
shrewd python
lemme show you 2 things
the trombone shi i wanted to show u
and then teach you about cc1 and cc11
first the trombones
drowsy lake
ok 🥹
shrewd python
my lil sweet summer child
youve been living in the shadow of ignorance
lemme enlighten u
drowsy lake
wtf?? 😭 🥀
shrewd python
first notes are fifths. its like playing C and G
they sound pretty good.
the other ones are thirds. minor or major, it doesnt matter
they are thirds.
rn we are talking about intervals. distances between notes.
why
cinder ferry
cuz of the volume ofv
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real bramble
that choir is so cool. what did u use for ur strings?
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nimble ridge
that choir is so cool. what did u use for ur strings?
I used nucleus
stuck heath
if only DISCORD gave us the ability to just move this thread to #1322235282476634193
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ember moss
i wonder how much OP has improved in this time
nimble ridge
i wonder how much OP has improved in this time
you can definitely hear an improvement
I listened to his most recent track
and I think there is an improvement
his new stuff is more consistent
fiery sparrow
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Madderfaqer dis sheiza is beautiful
Stop playing with osama bin Laden es mi bell bro
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shrewd python
Madderfaqer dis sheiza is beautiful
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fiery sparrow
???????????????????????????????????????????
“Mf this shit is beautiful”
shrewd python
lmfao
bro
whyd u write it like that
thanks bro took me a lot of time, its pretty old tho, ill remake it some day
nimble ridge
thanks bro took me a lot of time, its pretty old tho, ill remake it some day
crazy how long making orchestral music takes if you ain't already pretty/very experienced
like you can get an idea down pretty easily prob, takes a while to develop and perfect though
zenith sky
waguh
shrewd python
crazy how long making orchestral music takes if you ain't already pretty/very ex...
I know right
Nowadays im making 2 minutes in 3 weeks
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granite plaza
nice
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nimble ridge
bro staff let the audios go through fr
shrewd python
audio review killing server productivity
nimble ridge
rip
drowsy lake
😂
uneven thicket
what is this
drowsy lake
LMAOOO
drowsy lake
you didnt pass
uneven thicket
someone suggested me to come here and send my song because i wanted advices
drowsy lake
nobody passes in this channel
uneven thicket
lmao I see
uneven thicket
like the bot is bugged or he just delete the "bad" songs ?
drowsy lake
it sends a song for review to the mod team and they're just not doing their jobs so nothing gets reviewed
uneven thicket
oh ok
molten beacon
like the bot is bugged or he just delete the "bad" songs ?
they block it so people dont get around the feedback point system
otherwise it makes the points irrelevant if u can just post your stuff in any thread
fathom scaffold
Love it! Sounds like something I would hear in an amusement park while waiting in line for the ride
shrewd python
i want to revive this thread soooo badddd
shrewd python
@drowsy lake
drowsy lake
nimble ridge
Yo what do you use for these man
he might be asleep but he uses
Cinematic studio strings, cinematic studio brass, cinepercs, Damage 2
piano noire, cinematic studio piano, analog strings, rickenbacker bass
I use Cinematic studio strings, cinematic studio brass,cinematic studio woodwinds, Damage 2,noire,yaegar,nucleus
and blanket uses the cinematic studio series also
nimble ridge
oh yeah cinematic studio solo strings too
near anchor
what’s the difference between noire and the other piano
near anchor
oh yeah cinematic studio solo strings too
Is that a whole other plugin?
nimble ridge
what’s the difference between noire and the other piano
cinematic studio one?
near anchor
cinematic studio one?
Yeah
near anchor
Cool then
near anchor
oh yeah cinematic studio solo strings too
What about this?
nimble ridge
What about this?
it's another plugin
near anchor
Ohhh Alr
nimble ridge
basically we have all of them https://cinematicstudioseries.com/
this is the solo strings https://cinematicstudioseries.com/solo-strings/
all for kontakt
near anchor
all for kontakt
Thank you bro
fiery sparrow
anybody got good orchestral snare samlpes
drowsy lake
rip orchestral megathread 😭
nimble ridge
dead thread frfr
hard arrow
how is this thread still going 😭
drowsy lake
lock in
nimble ridge
aaaaaaaaa
fiery sparrow
sheesh
nimble ridge
Why is orchestral music so good
obtuse tangle
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shrewd python
that was a year ago fam 😭 thank u tho
normal turtle
what is actually going on here 😭
drowsy lake
dead thread because we moved to a private group chat
normal turtle
dead thread because we moved to a private group chat
How long do you think it will take me to listen to all the audio here?
shrewd python
How long do you think it will take me to listen to all the audio here?
a whole freaking lot of time
dude there are at least 80 audio files here lol
nimble ridge
lol fr
cursive owl
fart pls
split shuttle
someone who master cinematic studio series would be able to teach me how can I use it to its full potential in FL Studio, please? For example, how do I adjust the intensity of the sound (I don't know the exact term), the one that makes a violin sound ultra-realistic with constant variation
I'm currently only managing to use FL Studio's volume automation feature, but it doesn't seem like the best option. I'd also like some more instructions on how to use it
drowsy lake
there are more parameters such as expression and dynamic
midi CC1 will control the dynamic
as for expression, i don’t know which CC it is
you can find these if you open Browse Parameter assuming you’re using kontakt
split shuttle
but when to use dynamic or expression ?
for me it's not very different
as volume
nimble ridge
but when to use dynamic or expression ?
as someone who is experienced with sample libraries and composing
(specifically I use css)
dynamic adjustments via cc1
control the dynamic layer, each dynamic layer is recorded at a different dynamic(which gives each layer a different timbre ofc)
cc11 is for expression and basically just controls volume
for a violin it most likely also have a vibrato knob
dynamics give realism,as people who bow their string
will not always be bowing at the same dynamic(soft,loud,p,mf,f)
and you can do crescendo / decrescendos(where volume AND timbre changes either up or down)
dynamic also can refer to how dense the music is at a point
like maybe 2 instruments only would be like a very low dynamic
while 12-15 is a loud dynamic
in orchestral music you might start at a low dynamic instrument wise
then build up the amount of instruments for a crescendo
split shuttle
what/where is cc1 pls ?
nimble ridge
what/where is cc1 pls ?
midi cc1
split shuttle
thank you
split shuttle
for a violin it most likely also have a vibrato knob
to modulate the virabato their are also a cc ?
split shuttle
yes im using css
split shuttle
depends on the library but it should be cc2for css
on cc2 it's written breath controller
nimble ridge
well css allows you to assign the midi CC
click the settings icon
gives you all the cc
click and you can edit the midi cc
nimble ridge
@timber reef he dis guy
cursive owl
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patent wedge
hi
nimble ridge
aye
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drowsy lake
interesting idea
intro was the strongest section (good movement and instrumentation)
latter half became repetitive due to string staccato
choir is very nice touch
perfectly subtle and definitely contributes to a great texture
frigid turtle
Is this gonna be used for a movie or something? The sounds are very good and I like how you mixed them. Also I like how it goes from a more scary part to more happy part in a moment. Sounds pretty good. Hopefully you will use it in a actual movie👍
magic orbit
thanks guy, really appreciate it!
Not for a movie yet, but I'd love that one day.
drowsy lake
satire
shrewd python
Is this gonna be used for a movie or something? The sounds are very good and I l...
thank you broooo, it was just a track i made
i havent worked for people yet