#Orchestral Megathread

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drowsy lake
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what

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do you realize how loud this is

cinder ferry
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i dont actually, maybe the problem is my headset

drowsy lake
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there's audible clipping

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might wanna look into that

cinder ferry
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i thought the limiter already did the job

drowsy lake
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it sounds like you increased the gain if anything

cinder ferry
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i actually decreased it

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😭

drowsy lake
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you can leave the input gain the same if it will change your mix that much

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the output gain tho

cinder ferry
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oh

drowsy lake
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you sure?

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its loud

cinder ferry
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let me check again

drowsy lake
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im on 20 volume

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on windows

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and half discord volume

cinder ferry
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the gain is defaulted middle i tuned it to the left

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you mean the "noise gate" gain?

drowsy lake
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the gain si crazy

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like its not just loudness

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its definitely a gain thing

cinder ferry
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maybe i should tune the gain down more

drowsy lake
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yeah or EQ

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turn down the mid

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in your master

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overall the composition sounds muddy

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you'd produce a cleaner sound especially with your piano if you cut the mids

cinder ferry
drowsy lake
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see that shape?

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ALL of the sound is in the mid

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you should distribute your instruments along all the frequency ranges if possible

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everything is fighting

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try some panning too

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the center is too strong right now

cinder ferry
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i did the pan, i left the piano on the left and choir on the right

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maybe its too loud

drowsy lake
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its unnoticeable

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the choir is slightly on the right

cinder ferry
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yeah you're right

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its too slightly

drowsy lake
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but the piano is dead middle

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and it moves occasionally

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which causes a strange effect tbh

cinder ferry
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the piano pan

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the guitar is dead middle

drowsy lake
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your piano seems to have a built in panning system that moves with the scale

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higher octaves move to right and lower to left

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so your panning is mostly overwritten

cinder ferry
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😭

drowsy lake
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mixing is hard

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i'd say to focus on the EQ and give each instrument its own position

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right now everything is all in the middle

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even if you pan them i cant hear them distinctly

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which means you either have them sharing the same frequencies or did not pan them enough

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in this case its both

cinder ferry
drowsy lake
cinder ferry
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|| i'm broke ahhh cant afford good headset yet ||

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😔

drowsy lake
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mine is falling apart

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its held together with tape

cinder ferry
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damn

drowsy lake
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the only reason i havent gotten a new one is because im extremely particular about the sound. i have a new one but it sounds slightly different. (not enough bass)

cinder ferry
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and the volume of this one kinda problematic, i am now 100 volume on window and also 100 on discord but still not loud enough

drowsy lake
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oh hell nah

cinder ferry
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but your feedbacks kinda help me cue the sounds in theory so i might do the next mixing in my imagination better

drowsy lake
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np

nimble ridge
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not bad, it's musical but it sounds kinda lifeless, also the phrases are a bit weird like it feels like the music never really resolves

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1 sec lemme try and point out specific parts

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0-45(goes into the piano but never really resolves the guitar to anything) 45-1:15(the melody doesn't feel like a continuation of the melody before) 1:15-1:20(what is the reason behind this,I see 0 reason to go up here) speeds up at 1:20 for no reason??
at 1:49 you have some sort of resolving a bit, that's a start, most of the rest is real similar though

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listen to some music and notice how it resolves or starts at certain points, then try to use it in your own music

cinder ferry
# nimble ridge 0-45(goes into the piano but never really resolves the guitar to anything) 45-1:...

the whole non-resolve thing is the aiming for the "lost" theme in the title, 45-1:15 i agree on this, its actually just entire different chords progression, the point of 1:15 to 1:23 is just ear candy in disguise( thats the whole idea of it ) originally i put this piano at the end of this but kinda reconsider and chose the guitar instead to leave the sense of the character actually no longer have a body and disappear...

nimble ridge
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i'll give an example in my own music where u can hear resolving
first idea:
from 0-16 and resolves and starts back up at 20sec
20-33 pause then start back up 34-48 sec
second idea 48-->1:04
1:06 = end
so here you have a clear one section,second section and end

nimble ridge
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music resolving is a part of what makes it have an emotion and gives that feeling of tension and release

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if there is no release for tension it can start sounding just like noise, with no identity

cinder ferry
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i may need to look more at this "resolve" tech

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thanks for very specific feedbacks gonna try harder in future track

nimble ridge
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if yk bout roman numerals and chords n stuff it becomes much easier

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cadences are basically just a set of chords that end off certain sections(since each chord has a role each one plays its part)

cinder ferry
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i just actually learn music for around a month here, i've heard about cadences but literally not understand anything

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😭

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roman numerals

nimble ridge
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id send some examples but this forum thing doesn't allow audio sometimes

cinder ferry
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yeah imma check on this too cuz i dont know what that is

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you can dm me

nimble ridge
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kk

cinder ferry
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ohh the roman numerals like 251 in jazz?

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ohhh that's the roman numerals thing?

nimble ridge
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yeah

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jovial sundialBOT
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shrewd python
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my eardrums are bleeding

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cuz of the volume ofv

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ofc

shrewd python
shrewd python
drowsy lake
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had to reduce because some weird static noise was happening

shrewd python
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I wonder how u mixed this one. is it an eq in piano and reverb? lacks low and mid freqs

shrewd python
drowsy lake
shrewd python
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it would work pretty good in genshin

shrewd python
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headphones

drowsy lake
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i will not be developing this one

shrewd python
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look at the green dot

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the frequency thats messing everything up is there

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look at the whole video

drowsy lake
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its erect!

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oh shoot

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when you muffled everything else

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it sounded really bad

shrewd python
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lolol

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yes

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and the reverb amplifies that. maybe without reverb it wouldnt be that bad

drowsy lake
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i just realized that you DONT use fl studio wtf

shrewd python
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yeppp

drowsy lake
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what is that

shrewd python
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not for orchestral stuff

shrewd python
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tho i dont know if i can talk about other daws in the fl server lol

drowsy lake
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you can

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bro thats crazy.

shrewd python
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ohh alr

drowsy lake
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i thought you were a wizard on fl studio

shrewd python
shrewd python
drowsy lake
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im making orchestra on fl studio

shrewd python
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fl studio is meant for tech, for mixing and stuff

drowsy lake
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so hard to automate

shrewd python
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that plugin i had to use for using the cc1 and cc11

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i dont remember how its called

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how do u automate?

drowsy lake
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💀

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i will.... show you

shrewd python
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CHANNEL VOLUME

drowsy lake
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I... draw and type parameters in directly

shrewd python
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mf

drowsy lake
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LMAO

shrewd python
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use the cc1 and cc11

drowsy lake
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wtf is that

shrewd python
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DUDE

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FRICK YOU

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HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT

drowsy lake
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LMAOOO

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pls.

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🥺

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idk

shrewd python
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lemme show you 2 things

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the trombone shi i wanted to show u

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and then teach you about cc1 and cc11

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first the trombones

drowsy lake
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ok 🥹

shrewd python
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my lil sweet summer child

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youve been living in the shadow of ignorance

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lemme enlighten u

drowsy lake
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wtf?? 😭 🥀

shrewd python
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first notes are fifths. its like playing C and G

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they sound pretty good.

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the other ones are thirds. minor or major, it doesnt matter

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they are thirds.

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rn we are talking about intervals. distances between notes.

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why

cinder ferry
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drowsy lake
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dumb bot

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fuji is kill 😡

real bramble
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that choir is so cool. what did u use for ur strings?

hearty prawnBOT
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nimble ridge
jovial sundialBOT
stuck heath
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if only DISCORD gave us the ability to just move this thread to #1322235282476634193

jovial sundialBOT
hearty prawnBOT
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⚠️ @stuck heath, audio held for staff review.

nimble ridge
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yo wait what

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those are getting approved like 50 yrs later

ember moss
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i wonder how much OP has improved in this time

nimble ridge
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I listened to his most recent track
and I think there is an improvement

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his new stuff is more consistent

fiery sparrow
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Stop playing with osama bin Laden es mi bell bro

hearty prawnBOT
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shrewd python
fiery sparrow
shrewd python
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lmfao

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bro

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whyd u write it like that

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thanks bro took me a lot of time, its pretty old tho, ill remake it some day

nimble ridge
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like you can get an idea down pretty easily prob, takes a while to develop and perfect though

zenith sky
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waguh

shrewd python
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Nowadays im making 2 minutes in 3 weeks

hearty prawnBOT
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granite plaza
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nice

hearty prawnBOT
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nimble ridge
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bro staff let the audios go through fr

shrewd python
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audio review killing server productivity

nimble ridge
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rip

drowsy lake
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😂

uneven thicket
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what is this

drowsy lake
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LMAOOO

uneven thicket
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hazhahahaa

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explain plz

drowsy lake
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you didnt pass

uneven thicket
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someone suggested me to come here and send my song because i wanted advices

drowsy lake
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nobody passes in this channel

uneven thicket
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lmao I see

drowsy lake
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the bot

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kills everybody

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for no reason

uneven thicket
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like the bot is bugged or he just delete the "bad" songs ?

drowsy lake
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it sends a song for review to the mod team and they're just not doing their jobs so nothing gets reviewed

uneven thicket
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oh ok

molten beacon
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otherwise it makes the points irrelevant if u can just post your stuff in any thread

fathom scaffold
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Love it! Sounds like something I would hear in an amusement park while waiting in line for the ride

shrewd python
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i want to revive this thread soooo badddd

nimble ridge
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fr

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mods make an orchestral channel pls 🙏

shrewd python
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@drowsy lake

drowsy lake
near anchor
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Yo what do you use for these man

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these sound so good

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oh my god

nimble ridge
# near anchor Yo what do you use for these man

he might be asleep but he uses
Cinematic studio strings, cinematic studio brass, cinepercs, Damage 2
piano noire, cinematic studio piano, analog strings, rickenbacker bass

I use Cinematic studio strings, cinematic studio brass,cinematic studio woodwinds, Damage 2,noire,yaegar,nucleus
and blanket uses the cinematic studio series also

near anchor
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Ohh that’s sick

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I already have half of those

nimble ridge
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oh yeah cinematic studio solo strings too

near anchor
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what’s the difference between noire and the other piano

near anchor
nimble ridge
near anchor
nimble ridge
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I don't have that 1 so im not sure too much

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but noire is really good in my opinion

near anchor
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Cool then

near anchor
nimble ridge
near anchor
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Ohhh Alr

nimble ridge
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all for kontakt

near anchor
fiery sparrow
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anybody got good orchestral snare samlpes

drowsy lake
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rip orchestral megathread 😭

nimble ridge
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dead thread frfr

hard arrow
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how is this thread still going 😭

drowsy lake
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lock in