ken carson

[trim jasper]

@olive birch

[olive birch]

You should extract it as an mp3

[trim jasper]

how

[olive birch]

Then send it here

Well, it’s in the extract options

[trim jasper]

i found it

its missing drums the synth sounds off

everyting on it sounds off

idk what it is tho

[olive birch]

I can’t tell if your melody is off

Because “off”

Is subjective

Idk if what you did was on purpose or not

How do you want it to sound

[trim jasper]

does it sound good

if you like it then its good

becuase i like it but i feel like i did something wrong

[olive birch]

Something is cutting off too short imo

You might have done something with the pattern layout

Or maybe you cut off the synth too soon before the next pattern played

I can only assume it’s cloned patterns

But idk

[trim jasper]

yeah

how do i fix it

[olive birch]

Send ss

[trim jasper]

of everything or the synth

or the lead

[olive birch]

Everything

Like the main screen view

Of your patterns

[olive birch]

Also some of the notes aren’t as long or too short sometimes

[trim jasper]

idk what you mean so i js put these

[olive birch]

Oh like

The screen you move your patterns on but I’ll look at these too

First of all

A good workflow tip

[trim jasper]

i set it all as one pattern

was i supposed to do different patterns

[olive birch]

If you have different leads

It’s best to give them their own pattern each

Drums are different though

[trim jasper]

yeha i

ik

in the channel rack

[olive birch]

It’s just. Little harder to find the problem

[trim jasper]

do you see the problem?

[olive birch]

Well one thing

The notes are also a little bit early on the line

It’s best practice for beats to have them on the line

You can fix this by selecting “none”

For the thing that switches

ugh how do I explain it

[trim jasper]

none?

wjere

[olive birch]

like

what’s the word bro

hmmm

The amount of pegs you can move the notes

The setting that changes that

The thing with lists that say 1/4 bear

Or something

[trim jasper]

okay ill find it

what else

[olive birch]

Well, once you pick none, adjust one of the notes so it’s on the line then switch it back to what it was before

It should snap back on the line

[olive birch]

What else hmm

Can you send a screenshot of your pattern layout screen

Also I found the problem

Your loop is set

Like

On the note

On A note

it creates that weird noise

[trim jasper]

do i turn that off?

[trim jasper]

okay

[olive birch]

Fix those so they aren’t behind or in front of the loop

[trim jasper]

on the line?

is the beat good tho

ive been working on it for like 4 hours

[olive birch]

Yeah bro

I fw the lead

It’d be better if I heard

The song

As it was screen recording

So I could pinpoint issues better

[trim jasper]

okay ill screen record it

should i play it on the pattern screen or on the lead

[olive birch]

Lead

[trim jasper]

okay

wait im redoing it and making different patterns

because u said its better like that

[olive birch]

It’s just something like personal that I do

People do things differently

I js like cloning patterns

I don’t use loops

[trim jasper]

ill do what u dpo

u seem good at making music

[olive birch]

I’m ALRIGHT

Wanna hear a semi recent project

[trim jasper]

yeah

[olive birch]

Never finished it

Probably won’t

[trim jasper]

i put it like this

[trim jasper]

this is 200 times better than my thing

its actually so good

[olive birch]

You can’t compare it

To yours

If you just started lol

[trim jasper]

yeah its my first beat

[olive birch]

Just give it time

[trim jasper]

yeah

im on the free trial rn

[olive birch]

Seems like it’s on time now

You should play it

[trim jasper]

my mom said if i make a semi decent beat shell buy me the 99 dollar one

[olive birch]

See if it’s better

[olive birch]

Ooh bro

That’s a good deal

U gotta cook smth up now

[trim jasper]

yeah

so should i copy and paste the lead

and the synth

[olive birch]

Wdym

[trim jasper]

wait

u fixed it

kind of

[olive birch]

Now you just gotta tweak it some more

Dw tho

It’s hard at first

You get an ear for problems in your midi pretty quick

[trim jasper]

how do i screen record w audio

nvm

alr so what do i need to fix

[olive birch]

This might be confusing

But like I said

I can’t tell you if something is wrong with it

Because it’s art

But

TYPICALLY

when there’s a change in something synth like

You should keep it on the same line/bar

It might make the beat seem off

[trim jasper]

okay i changed it

[olive birch]

UNLESS ITS SOMETHING ARTISTIC!!

[olive birch]

Hopefully this makes kinda sense

[trim jasper]

i feel like the synth is fine

the lead is buns

its off beat

idk how to fix it

[olive birch]

The lead

[trim jasper]

yeah

the one that faster

[olive birch]

Well lemme tell u

In the latest screenshot

The lead isn’t on time with the synth

Y feel me

[trim jasper]

yaeh

where should i place it

[olive birch]

On time with the synth unless it’s smth you meant

Like

Lots of times

You should make this off time

If it’s something better

Like a realistic piano or guitar isn’t going to be perfect y feel me

[trim jasper]

which one would sound better

[olive birch]

But something more synth/digital

You usually go more on time

Plus

To start

I’d just stick to the same beat time

cell

[trim jasper]

okay

also you can be critical its fine i wont take offense

its probably better for me

because it would help more

[olive birch]

I’m being honestly as critical as I need to b

Trust me

Also

There are still things I’m learning about midi

There are all these key shortcuts I haven’t even gotten into or learned

[timber pulsar]

[trim jasper]

where did blud come from

baby gronk

[timber pulsar]

Just a piece of information for you, you won’t have to use most shortcuts in fl studio

[olive birch]

Yeah but it’s hella cool bro

[timber pulsar]

in the long run it’s better to just to things manually

[olive birch]

I’m not talking about shortcuts in music

Like, I’m talking about laying out stuff

Like how people scroll thru their tools in midi

I still click it manually

[timber pulsar]

No I know what you meant

[olive birch]

Or I see people cloning midi notes in mass quickly

[timber pulsar]

Shortcuts in Fl studio

[olive birch]

Yea

[timber pulsar]

The only super useful time saving ones are cmd c (copy) cmd b (paste) and cmd z (undo)

For me atleast

But yeah

[olive birch]

You see those fl speedrunners

I’m tryna pick up their methods bro

That kinda thing takes time though

[trim jasper]

some dude said to turn down the attack

whats attack

[timber pulsar]

Bro

The fl speedrun videos

[olive birch]

Attack is basically the initial

Hit

Like

Aggro

[timber pulsar]

You realize the beats are already premade right

[olive birch]

It’s hard to explain

It’s easy tho

Whatever vst you’re using

Is it flex?

[trim jasper]

vital

[timber pulsar]

They’re just remaking the beat as fast as they can

[olive birch]

Pretty sure you can turn down

[trim jasper]

i found it

[olive birch]

The attack knob on vital

Could be wrong tho

[trim jasper]

its there

[olive birch]

I use Omni sphere mainly

And zenology

[trim jasper]

@timber pulsar how do u like my beat

its my first one

what abt serum

i heard its the best vst

[olive birch]

Serum 2 dropped

So yeah

It’s the best imo

I don’t have it though

I don’t pirate my shit

[civic topaz]

the attack time is the time that it takes for the sound to rise up in volume

like initially

high attack time makes the sound rise up slowly

like pads

[olive birch]

Explained it 10x better than me bro

Like I know what the knob DOES

but explaining it bro??

[civic topaz]

it's easy to understand but explaining to other people is kinda hard lol

[olive birch]

So real

[civic topaz]

my teacher once asked me what a sustain knob does in the ADSR envelope, and like i knew exactly what it did, but i took too much time thinking of how im supposed to explain it with words ahah

[trim jasper]

you have an fl teacher?

can you be my fl teacher

[civic topaz]

not an fl studio teacher, just a music production teacher

[civic topaz]

youtube tutorials are probably the go to way to learn stuff

[trim jasper]

damn

okay

what should i do for drums

idk what would sound good

also thanks
@olive birch you were really helpful

[tiny elk]

Gave +1 Rep to @olive birch (current: #33 - 11)

[civic topaz]

search up free hip hop/trap drum kit in YT, there are plenty of free and good stuff

(if you dont have the needed sounds)

[olive birch]

I would go to Reddit

So many drumkits🤤

[civic topaz]

reddit is good too

[trim jasper]

i have sounds

idk what to do for drums tho

[civic topaz]

look up trap beat drums tutorial or something like that

[trim jasper]

okay

[civic topaz]

drums in hip hop arent complicated

well most of the times

[olive birch]

Dude

It’s legit just

Tons of hi hats

Spammed

Maybe a little different here and there

[civic topaz]

lol fr

[olive birch]

some rolls

Kicks

It goes kick, snare, kick kick scare

[civic topaz]

and dont forget 808s playing the entire song on just one note hehe

[olive birch]

Real

I like to get real funky with my 808s

Yk I’m over 808s

I like some realistic funk bass

A groovy baseline 🤌

[civic topaz]

reese bass my beloved🤤

[olive birch]

Yo bro

Unironically

My favorite has

Bass

Is in FLEX

[civic topaz]

goated

flex is one of the best stock plugins

[olive birch]

yep

[civic topaz]

really awesome

[olive birch]

Ppl hatejust to hate

[civic topaz]

and it has pretty good control of the presets

you can adjust a lotta stuff

[olive birch]

So many free packs

And it’s so easy to understand

[trim jasper]

i have hella bouncy 808s

its shaking my table

[olive birch]

also by the way

[civic topaz]

i think that isnt always good

[olive birch]

No matter what anyone tells you

don’t start mixing yet bruh

It’s just gonna overwhelm u

[trim jasper]

okay

[civic topaz]

aaaa mixing

[trim jasper]

ill find better 808s

[olive birch]

I stopped making music for so long because I couldn’t get mixing till I started again

[civic topaz]

a year ago i never mixed my stuff and it sounded horrendous

[olive birch]

Yep

[civic topaz]

i started trying to control my mix and my tracks became better

although it is very complicated sometimes

[olive birch]

It’s pretty difficult until you understand it

[civic topaz]

FIVE. HUNDRED. OTTS.

[olive birch]

I’d start with the basics like frequency pocketing

On your eq

If I had to pick what to start with

[civic topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/fl-studio-crashed-error-gif-12700125876461985291

[olive birch]

gotta make room for your sounds

[olive birch]

Real

[civic topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/ott-500-cigarettes-xfer-orville-music-gif-4791336397149905506

[civic topaz]

id start with volumes first

of each sound

[olive birch]

WELL YEAH

[civic topaz]

you dont want a tiny 808 and a hurting clap

or

[olive birch]

And like

[civic topaz]

table shaking 808

[olive birch]

Panning

[olive birch]

“Nooo I picked it for the genre”

Your genre is just pain bro

[civic topaz]

😭

average hip hop beat

[olive birch]

Stop hurting my ears with your poorly mixed mix

“It’s Phonk”

[civic topaz]

ah yes

phonk

[olive birch]

True

Phonk used to be cool

[civic topaz]

my little brother listens to brazilian phonk

he is DONE for

[olive birch]

Bro what

Mine too

[civic topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

he made my mom hate phonk

[olive birch]

Honestly

good…

trap and phone

Phonk

Easiest to make

[civic topaz]

yeah

i mean sometimes there is actually good phonk

like

THINK ABOUT IT by koraii

really amazing mixing

[trim jasper]

the drums are coming along

ill do ts tmrw its buns

[olive birch]

I feel u broski

Sometimes you need to look at something with fresh ears

[civic topaz]

e-erm.. achshualyl you cannot look with ears.... and ears cannot be freshm...🤓🤓

[timber pulsar]

I like it

It’s great for a first beat

Vision is definitely there

Reminds me of Zelda

[hazy kettle]

i def see the vision wit this. i think a good background high end musical element would take this far. synths?

[olive birch]

You think I should pick it back up then

I’ll see about something more high end

[hazy kettle]

mmmm, if u don't feel the need too maybe not. but from first listen, imo the background could be filled in a bit more for a more full sound if that makes sense. it sounds kinda dark and cold literally. so some good synths or which ever u choose would make it dope asl

[olive birch]

I’m kinda glad u said that lol

I was going for a dark n cold

But maybe a high end whatever could still help

I’ll peep it

[hazy kettle]

u lowkey can do a lot wit that sound, keep going tho 💪🏾

i like dark beats myself

or well that's what i gravitate towards considering the music i listen too

[olive birch]

Perhaps smth a little like this

[hazy kettle]

yeah this has a lot of potential too, u def have the ideas, just kinda add shit till u get a fuller sound. like for instance, i'd put a piano w/ ghost notes, add some ethernal like floating out my seat ass background elements. i think the strings are a bit too "bright" if u get what i mean, so some eq can tame that ez

[olive birch]

Yeah that’s completely raw

I js picked up a sound from a vst

[olive birch]

Believe it or not

man

This track

Has so many

Like

little background noise

it’s crazy

[hazy kettle]

mmmmm, i can hear the like eerie low tone atmosheric fx, like im walking thru some misty wooods, that's lowkey tuff

[olive birch]

Hell yeah

I love me some ambience

I fein for it