When I import an 808 its stereo width doesn't sound as good | FL Studio Community | Page 1

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:38 PM

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First one is exported from Maschine, second is exported from FL.

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:46 PM

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onyx shell First one is exported from Maschine, second is exported from FL.

are there any effects going on in Maschine?

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what does the raw sample sound like?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:46 PM

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tame geyser are there any effects going on in Maschine?

Yes, an Ozone imager. When I take it off during export, and put it on identically after importing it into FL, the result sounds like these clips.

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:47 PM

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tame geyser what does the raw sample sound like?

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:47 PM

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so, you have ozone imager in maschine

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and then, if you try to load imager in fl it doesn't sound the same?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:48 PM

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Exactly. And if I export it with the Ozone imager - during which it just theoretically sound as it does in Maschine - it sounds like this.

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As you can hear, this problem only arises inside FL Studio.

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Sounds just fine as an exported audio clip

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:48 PM

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screenshot your FL

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:48 PM

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tame geyser screenshot your FL

Anything in particular you want screenshotted?

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:48 PM

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mixer insert that your 808 is on

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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tame geyser mixer insert that your 808 is on

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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do you hear the effect inside of FL?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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For some reason it's like FL literally doesn't allow a stereo width like that. I tried to recreate it with an 808 directly into FL, instead of from Maschine, and it still sounds flat like that.

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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tame geyser do you hear the effect inside of FL?

I hear the Ozone Imager doing something, but not recreating how it sounds in Maschine.

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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can you try a blank project as a control test?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

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Sure, 1 sec

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

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this is what it sounds like if i do it personally

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i have to crank the settings but yeah, it sounds the same as your example

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so, i just want to make sure you're like, setting this up correctly

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onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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tame geyser this is what it sounds like if i do it personally

Alright, I got an interesting development

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This is what it sounds like in the afformentioned project, not blank

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but

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In the blank project it sounds just fine

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Just as it should

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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onyx shell This is what it sounds like in the afformentioned project, not blank

what are you imager settings in the original project

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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tame geyser what are you imager settings in the original project

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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meant in FL

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Same thing

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Same settings, I mean

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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what's on your master insert?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Nothing, empty

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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send the project file please

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as a zip

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Wait, shit, nevermind

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I made a mistake - I had a soundgoodizer on the master. It compressed the hell out of it without me realising

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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shouldn't affect the stereo width though

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unless, it does

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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Well seems like it does

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here's without soundgoodizer

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and with

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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what setting did you have on soundgoodizer?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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tame geyser what setting did you have on soundgoodizer?

Preset A, about 20-30% tuned

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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yeah so, next time that happens, work down the chain from channel to each insert to see where the problem happens

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trying a blank project is a good way to see if it's the project or something else

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which is what i had you do

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so, process of elimination, and a control test

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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Yep, totally my mistake. Well, now I've learnt that Soundgoodizer can easily compress stereo width way too much

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Putting it on my drums bus instead to work around the issue

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Instead of the master

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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to clarify, the A preset in soundgoodizer has the low end's stereo width all the way set to merged

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Ah shit that makes so much sense

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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so, anything below 200hz was being monoized

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I can just turn that off in maximus

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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yeah

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just load the soundgoodizer preset

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then set the stereo width how you want

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I really gotta learn how to use a multiband compressor

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Ik it's slightly off topic, but any good advice or video for learning?

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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do you know how a compressor works?

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Know how to use a compressor well enough but multiband seems daunting

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yeah

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Know all the knobs and how to use them decently well

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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then you already know how a multiband compressor works

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multiband compressing splits your signal into different bands, allowing you to compress them individually

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clicking the solo button in any of the bands in maximus lets you hear that bands frequencies

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so, if there's a frequency region that's too loud, but the rest is fine, that's when mb comp comes into play

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de-essing for example, is multiband compressing

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Ah alright, that makes a lot of sense then. I do still gotta improve at using a compressor more intentionally; I know how to compress just to remove the transients and/or heighten the sustain, but all the other, more fancy uses like pumping (or actually having the ear to intentionally fine-tune my attack and release) is beyond me for now

tame geyser Nov 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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it's okay, it takes a long time to hear that stuff, i barely am able to hear envelope changes like that, unless it's completely obvious

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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onyx shell Ah alright, that makes a lot of sense then. I do still gotta improve at using a ...

Especially that last part, attack and release - I know what it does, I can ear large gaps, but just don't have the ear to fine tune it

onyx shell Nov 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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tame geyser it's okay, it takes a long time to hear that stuff, i barely am able to hear env...

Yeah that takes training I'll guess

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a lot

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Compressors are meant to be felt and not heard - generally - so that's a challenge

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but yeah, training training training

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thanks for the help again

#When I import an 808 its stereo width doesn't sound as good