#my first ever vocals layed on my on beat, rough copy

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rare jetty
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please any feedback would be really really appreciated - not finished at all just a rough draft but yeah idea of the song is there so just lmk what yall are sayin 🙂

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some parts are off beat lolz but yeah

steep frost
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Nice nice. I really like the melodies you did with your vocals. Also a lot of F bombs 💣 lol

muted fossil
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Do you have any reference tracks that demonstrate the results you're aiming for?

rare jetty
rare jetty
muted fossil
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Hahaha I totally get it, I usually sing glossolalia nonsense or just sing some phrases that get the general gist and then fill in the blanks with nonsense or some other placeholder vocals like humming or beatboxing or lyrics that sound right but make no sense.

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If you haven't seen Get Back, it's an enlightening experience to see how the Beatles used this exact same technique when developing songs.

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I thought that documentary was just going to be member berries and fluff about how cool the Beatles were, but it actually taught me a lot about the songwriting process.

rare jetty
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Any feedback on it would be rlly appreciated, especially w the mixin of the beat

muted fossil
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Same here, legit technique. I'll be back at my real computer in a couple minutes

muted fossil
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Overall this is way better than I expected.

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I think the highs are a bit rolled off and/or that there isn't much content in the higher frequencies.

Bit of a gap around 1500-4000Hz, roughly speaking. Not that you need to fill everything out and make some kind of Wagnerian wall of sound, but typically I'd expect more vocal or lead/theme presence in that area.

Small amount of stereo spread and deviations from perfect mono phase correlation in the low end, but it's not particularly problematic.

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What all do you have on your vocal processing chain?

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Big Juice WRLD vibes

muted fossil
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Around the 2:00 mark, there's a mouse double-click that probably needs to be removed.

muted fossil
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Really great stuff you've got here. Obviously needs a bit of polish for the final product, but aside from what I mentioned above, there isn't a ton of room for significant improvements.

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Messed with it for a while, mostly just some EQ and stereo imaging and subtle saturation + mastering limiting/compression/clipping.

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For "first ever", this is pretty good!

rare jetty
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really appreciate the fedback

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will defs work on it

rare jetty
rare jetty
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but eq'd the lower frequences

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cies

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then threw on a soundgoodizer

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deesser

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limiter soft clipper etc

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ill send a sc

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imma try re record vocals and think of new lyrics - i did this all at night when my parents were sleeping so its really unenergetic

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ill send it again if i finish it

muted fossil
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Please do! I think this is already at least 80% of the way to being ready to release. And I wager that most of that remaining 20% is just doing the final vocal take(s) and arranging them, plus some mixing and mastering polish, and maybe adding one more element to fill in some of that "blank space" that's in the "vocal sweet spot" around 3kHz. Need to avoid overcrowding around 3kHz and also probably 6-7kHz, but I don't think you have a lot in those areas in the first place, so probably not a big risk.

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DAW crashed because I unhooked the audio interface while saving... and I had saved earlier, but this was overwriting the original file... that's on me lol. So I don't have the file rendered atm, but basically I was able to even things out a bit more and get it closer to the spectral signature of a couple of recent Lil Tecca and The Kid LAROI songs, albeit I think those songs were heavily altered by YouTube's lossy compression, and I am pretty sure I over-processed your song. Probably doesn't need to be -7LUFSi lol. Main things that helped were just saturation that added more content in the aforementioned "blank space", stereo imaging to get the low end mono without simply summing and thus retaining the phase cancellation, and some very basic and subtle dynamics processing (multiband clipper, multiband limiter, dynamic EQ, final stage mastering compressor + true peak limiter).

rare jetty
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wait

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send it through if u processed it a bit

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also i made a new beat

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its somewhere in feedback lol

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if u wanna check it out haha

rare jetty
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imma rerecord n everything

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my first song lol

muted fossil
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In your version, it sounds kinda like there's a compressor that's working mostly off of the low end amplitude, so you can hear the vocal get noticeably louder when the bass subsides, but then the vocal gets clamped hard when the bass kicks back in.

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This is way too squashed, but here ya go. Vocals are more even, bass is more tame. It would be much better to start with the instrumental and vocal stems, process them separately, and then glue them together in a second stage.

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Again, about -7dBFS LUFSi, which is louder than most commercial releases, and peak level of about -0.1 dBFS, which isn't insane, but still very loud.

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You could probably just mix something in between the two to even things out.

rare jetty
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im currently at uni rn so ill read this all a bit later lol

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but thankyou for the feedback

rare jetty