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[gaunt jetty]

all vst

[viscid gorge]

Is the melody following the chord progression? It sounds like there's something clashing a little bit

[gaunt jetty]

does the melody need to follow the chord progression of the rhythm guitar?

the melody in the background is a copy of the lead guitar

[gaunt jetty]

I don't know much about music theory and I can't understand so i can send piano roll screenshots if need

[viscid gorge]

Yeah, the melody is generally supposed to follow the chord progression. So like if you have a C E G chord followed by a G B D, if your melody repeats C E G and doesn't transition to G B D, you're going to get a note clash. Specifically, you're going to have the D and the C clash. I just mention this cuz it doesn't sound like the main guitar's notes move at all, that they stay on the same notes

[gaunt jetty]

So i need to make the lead guitar have the same chord progression as the rhythm guitar?

[viscid gorge]

For the most part, yeah

There's always going to be exceptions you can do, but if you don't know how those exceptions work, it's not going to work in your favor

[gaunt jetty]

i need to move "1" notes down too if im moving "2" down?😭

sorry if it is stupid question

[viscid gorge]

Oh shoot I meant to respond but I was too busy

[viscid gorge]

Yeah, though I think more importantly, the dissonance I was hearing is probably those out-of-chord tones

So when you're writing a melody, you can jump out of the chord, but you (like before) must be careful when you do. The best place to put a tone like this is when you're doing something like a passing tone, where you're going from one chord note to another, like from F to A, you might put a note between on G to "bridge the gap" instead of making it jump.
Similarly, there are tricks like this for going out of a chord and then back in, like with how you did E F E (this would be assuming that chord progression was for E as a natural note instead of F)

I marked out what your progressions' triad notes are and what the non-chord tones are in orange. I don't think your E is that bad since most of the notes actually fit in the chord and others could just be passed as flare, but the F one looks real bad because over half the notes aren't in the chord and can't be attributed the same way. The start and end of even the smallest segments in music often time hold the most power, which is why your E F E notes won't work well in your F chord, while a F E F might. I don't know enough context about the B to all the way to the left, but it is essentially the "end" of that segment and in a way it allows the high section of the melody to rest in a fairly dissonant way compared to the chord. A B compared to an F also isn't even a perfect fourth (that would be C), it's a minor fourth and causes a very dissonant sound. These two notes do share a single triad though, and this would make sense why it sounds so bad: It's your C Major's vii*, a diminished chord, with a minor third and a minor fifth, B D F. If this was the case, then your B would be correct, but the C would not be, and the E still wouldn't fit into this chord

So in short: The melody on the left does have some flaws in it and the one on the right is actually probably okay

[gaunt jetty]

ty

but from all of the above, I understood 30% due to my poor English and lack of knowledge of musical theory😭 , if you could help me correctly arrange the notes throughout the melody, I would be very glad if it doesn’t bother you

[tame jay]

what Plugins did you used ?

[gaunt jetty]

For lead guitar it was kontakt electric sunburst deluxe no preset and guitar rig 5 preset
For rhythm guitar it was kontakt electric sunburst deluxe too but "rocker" preset
For drums i used kontakt Studio Drummer
For bass guitar is ample bass

[tame jay]

ahh no wonder the sounds are high quality. anyway i like it keep it going i posted my song hour ago in feedback if you interested you can listen to it tell me what you think.

[gaunt jetty]

ty, ill listen

[obsidian vector]

do me a favor and cntrl + a and then hold mouse wheel down and right click while holding it down

itll bring up a menu

and there will be a "humanize" option

use it,

guitars absolutely need to sound natural for them to make sense

[gaunt jetty]

done sir

[obsidian vector]

the humanize option will allow you to make everything sound a tad bit more natural

[viscid gorge]

Do you have any experience with playing guitars?

If you don't, it would certainly help to make believable guitar melodies if you just learn how the fingering generally works

This would be my note suggestions. It is hard to tell what else to do without any more context. I figure that E section could stay as in, but the F section certainly would certainly help from this

[gaunt jetty]

no im not but ill buy my first guitar soon

[gaunt jetty]

ty

[viscid gorge]

To keep it simple: F chord's natural notes are: F A C. You want to stick with these more than less, for this section.
E chord's natural notes are E G B. Similarly, sticking with is a safe option

You'll have to figure out what triad notes are in the other chords in your progression and limit the unreasonable non-chord

[gaunt jetty]

k, is it good now?

full melody btw

i forgot to send full version

[viscid gorge]

Interestingly, the "D" chord is going to sound like a B (the Diminished). The C chord will need a lot of work though. You have a lot of non-chord tones there. For C, you want C E G mostly, and you have mostly another B chord. It is fine to repeat a chord in your progression.
At this point, you'll have to use your ears and figure out what notes don't sound well when played. This is a major skill necessary to be able to write music. Just listen for something that sounds dissonant, or even "off"

[gaunt jetty]

k ill try ty

[viscid gorge]

Don't forget to post updated audio files so we can hear the progress! :)

[gaunt jetty]

it's hard and I'm not sure if I did everything right but

I also changed the intro and verse a bit

[gaunt jetty]

ig im absolutely not

[gaunt jetty]

maybe final version if lead guitar good now

idk

[livid citrus]

this is bad advice

i think of chords relating to melodies like

more of a interval/harmonic way

what i mean

if i'm writing a melody i'll use tension and release

and often i'll use the root note of the chord/anything harmonically pleasant to my ears to establish a release

and i'll just use dissonant notes like 9ths or 7ths to create a tense feel

your melody should make sense in context of your chords

ping me if you want any advice, i always look for other rock music makers in this discord to talk to /give advice to

[gaunt jetty]

k ty

[gaunt jetty]

for some reason there are few people who make rock, although in my case I wanted to start making music just to learn how to make rock

[livid citrus]

i started out making beats and it's weird how much that influenced my drumming style today lol

it helps a lot to play an instrument before you start learning how to write rock music

every instrument revolves around eachother more than you think

[livid citrus]

drumming needs to change a lot

[gaunt jetty]

wym

[livid citrus]

it doesn’t fit the song

[gaunt jetty]

why

[gaunt jetty]

so many changes

[gaunt jetty]

new project but idk

@livid citrus what do you think?

[livid citrus]

lead guitars dont make much sense melodically

there could be a lot more happening in the drum intro

make try adding in flams and fills

[gaunt jetty]

k ty