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foggy oxide
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drill beat are my hats too loud?

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agile flower
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@foggy oxide what happened 😐

foggy oxide
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@agile flower don't like the beat anymore so I deleted it

agile flower
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as i recall sounded great and well done

foggy oxide
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Yes 😅

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If it doesn't sound perfect, or almost perfect to me, then I normally delete it

agile flower
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well i find, when i listen to something over and over, i get bored and no longer like it

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too much trying to perfect!

foggy oxide
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I can't help it, I treat music like this in general

agile flower
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generally i start new tracks so i dont get bored

foggy oxide
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I will refuse to listen to a song if it doesn't sound perfect to me 😅

agile flower
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then i end up with unfinishedness haha

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saying that, i did manage to finish one yesterday

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but not happy with the vocal, i hope they can resing it

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but proud to 99% finish something, in one day

foggy oxide
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Nice

agile flower
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so whats your new vibe going to be, some jungle drill?

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😂

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i appreciate you giving the inspiration for the bass. i suck with bass!

foggy oxide
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Don't know lol, I tried to make a kpop inspired beat but I failed bad

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I want to make easy Asian pop and r&b beats, but I keep failing

agile flower
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well at least you know you fail bad, its another thing thinking something is great and its not

foggy oxide
foggy oxide
agile flower
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sounds good but i think the bass notes need to go with the melody

foggy oxide
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I won't lie I just took a midi file for the melody lol

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Or do you mean my 808?

agile flower
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yeh the notes are constant, think it will be good to follow the melody

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anyway for what it is, you get the bass/kick nice

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its loud but right on the edge of too much distortion. good skills

foggy oxide
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Thanks

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The thing is my idea sounds totally different to the beat

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I think that's why I hate my projects so much

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They never sound how I want them to lol

agile flower
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just need to experiment more, and trying something random

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well with how you make everything fit

foggy oxide
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I'll try

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I want to make ballads lmao

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But I'm not great at making a melody after I make chords

agile flower
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saying that i tried someones advice the other day, when it gets annoying - turn off all the effects, and try and get it to sound right/balanced, and then go back to the effects which may be too much/little

foggy oxide
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Sometimes putting your master in mono helps with mixing

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Don't forget to turn off mono when you export haha

agile flower
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not tried that one, wasnt sure if its an old wives tale haha

foggy oxide
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Sometimes you turn on mono and realise that your snare is louder than everything lmao

agile flower
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interesting, does that help with getting the balances right?

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i guess stereo is bit of a brain trickery/an effect

foggy oxide
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It can help, you don't have to leave it on mono for the whole time

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Maybe for like 5 seconds

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Turning the volume up a bit can help

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Then back down

agile flower
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what about like, mix on a mobile phone lol

foggy oxide
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FL studio mobile?

agile flower
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i suppose the more we can hear on the highend equipment, the more we are adding small touches. the less we can hear, the more we only hear the levels

foggy oxide
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Or listening on your phone speaker?

agile flower
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yeh just on a crappy old speaker

foggy oxide
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Oh

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I always export to my phone , since it's where I listen to music

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I listen with my earpods plugged in normally

agile flower
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bass is always tricky on phones, easily disappears!

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although not in your case probably

foggy oxide
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Sometimes I can't hear the bass on my phone speaker, if it sounds good in headphones I don't bother trying to fix it

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I just don't have the patience 😂

foggy oxide
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Some sound better than others

agile flower
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well, adding the resonant freq that make it visible

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i did find a new free bass synth

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pretty good

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monalique something like that

foggy oxide
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Nice

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Personally I just use 808 samples lmao

agile flower
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hehe

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yes it is a little addictive using samples

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its all mastered for you lol

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but, its nice trying to make our own sound

foggy oxide
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Tried that and lost patience

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I tried to listen to some tutorial guy everyone recommends

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Seamless? Or something like that

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Guy rambles too much

agile flower
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lol

foggy oxide
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I followed a tutorial of his, and my sound design was completely different from his

agile flower
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i would love to figure it all out, synths, and having that patience

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but yeh, technical stuff, gets a bit boring

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although im a bit of a math wizard, i could probably do well with it if i put my mind to it

foggy oxide
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Made this with labs soft piano, then added a terrible white noise texture that fatigues the ears

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But basically, labs soft piano is quite a decent sound

foggy oxide
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I'll wait until someone who can actually teach, decides to teach me sound design

agile flower
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hey thats a nice touch with the noise, gives it an analog feel

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think my ears are more fatigued by your heavy bass haha

foggy oxide
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Or I'll wait until someone who can actually teach makes a YouTube video, without YouTube intros and begging me to like and subscribe lol

foggy oxide
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I feel like the texture should be less , I think this one takes up too much space

agile flower
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youtube useful for some things, but alot of teachers that are more show rather than actually professional intricate teaching

foggy oxide
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Maybe my ears are just sensitive to certain frequencies

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Yeah most of them are just showing off

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And begging for likes

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And selling something

agile flower
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theres also a thing called books

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i tend to collect those and not read them!

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although taught me SQL much better than videos can

foggy oxide
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What's worse is, half of these YouTubers can't even make what they are trying to teach

foggy oxide
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I taught myself how to read music from reading books, then got bored

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Now I can barely read the treble cleff

agile flower
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maybe ill be a youtube teacher one day, i always make sure i cover the smallest detail if i help someone with something. because i find myself asking, why did they skip that bit, what the hell does that button or line of code do. i want to know the full details!

foggy oxide
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Nice, I hope you make a great video

agile flower
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this is why books are valuable, because they are well thought out, and go into much detail in a page, rather than a 20 minute video

foggy oxide
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Fair enough

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I prefer to hear the music too

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Just reading it on a page is what makes me bored lol

agile flower
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saying that, we have Bing/GPT now

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yep thats a point

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i guess programming doesnt make a sound, so better for that!

foggy oxide
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Use gpt with caution though, I find that sometimes it just talks a lot of nothing

agile flower
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i think Bing precise is pretty accurate

foggy oxide
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Oh fairs, maybe I'll check out bing one day

foggy oxide
agile flower
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i use Edge browser, so its built in

foggy oxide
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Actually, I am computer illiterate outside fl studio ☠️

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Ohhh

agile flower
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yeh i dont mean on bing search, that thing is annoying

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keeps thinking i want a gpt answer, no i just want to search

foggy oxide
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Lmfao sounds annoying

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I just use chrome mobile browser for internet, no add ons for me unfortunately

agile flower
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i used to use chrome, but now edge is the best for me!

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theres also Brave, which cuts all adverts builtin

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useful if you want to watch youtube without interruption

foggy oxide
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Oh nice

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I'll check it out

agile flower
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yeh it also blocks same-page popups

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like over here/uk we always get the annoying 'can we share your data or not, but ill make it difficult for you not to consent'

foggy oxide
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Ye I'm in the UK too

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I hate them pop-ups

foggy oxide
agile flower
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yeh every single page these days! worst thing ever. why cant i just have no consent and save it for all popups!

foggy oxide
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Ikr