Ted's Janky print

[nova cove]

Suspect maybe a mutiple faceted problem. Looking for a hand troubleshooting

@hard coral

[hard coral]

oh, thanks

can you post the original "mistaken" photos for easy comparison?

[nova cove]

Testing flow cube now

[hard coral]

oh, it came off the print bed

what's your bed temp?

2 suggestions:

1. clean with IPA and clean microfiber
2. apply a light layer/dusting of some unscented hair net PVA hairspray

[nova cove]

60C

[hard coral]

oh boy

[nova cove]

It kind of throwing me for a bit of a loop because other filaments print fine on the same settings

[lime solar]

60C too high for pla

It too close to PLA HDT

[hard coral]

on my anycubic I was printing 210/56 with PVA

[lime solar]

I use 45C max for pla

[hard coral]

but really if you're having problems with adhesion, you just need alcohol and hairspray

PLA's glass temp is 50-80

so you're going to be struggling with elephant's foot

[nova cove]

Well its sticking fine, but im guessing the nozzle is like "grabbing" the part because the build sheet will be askew from the magnet base

[lime solar]

Which slicer are you using?

[hard coral]

obviously it's not sticking fine if you're using brims 😅

[lime solar]

And which printer?

[nova cove]

Cura 5.2.2

[hard coral]

e3v2 neo with sprite

[lime solar]

Most people leave cura default, lol

Use z-hop

[nova cove]

Complete transparency, Im just following what the manual of the thing Im printing said to

[lime solar]

It'll lift the nozzle during travel moves which should prevent it grabing parts

[hard coral]

yeah, but that thing is usually tuned to that person's printer, which is probably different from your printer, but also this ^

[lime solar]

Which filament are you print with btw?

[nova cove]

I was wondering if I should kick that on again. It gave some gnarly artifacts when I printed those flexible slugs in Rainbow Silk PLA

but I also had the old Bowden stock hotend and retraction was too high

[lime solar]

Creality, afaik uses slightly higher esteps in their default firmware

[hard coral]

by the way, have you done the mark and measure test for extrusion distance?

[nova cove]

Yep

I was right on the money

[hard coral]

what's your z-hop set to?

[nova cove]

Ive had it off

[lime solar]

To avoid mixing stuff and make referencing easier for later, please list:

1. You printer
2. Whether it's stock or not
3. Firmware
4. Whether it'a stock or not
5. Filament type and make you are using

[lime solar]

Seems off by almost 0.5mm? 😆

[nova cove]

1. Ender 3 V2
2. Flexy magnet build plate, CR Touch, Sprite Pro Hotend/DD extruder
3. Marlin Professional
4. Non-stock, github Download
5. Overture PLA Pro

[lime solar]

What's your current flow rate?

[nova cove]

Legit question, is that enough to screw it up

100% on Cura

[lime solar]

May cause over extrusion, dimensional inaccuracies and more stringing

[nova cove]

printing the flow cube now

[lime solar]

Try 97%

How many top and bottom layers?

Do you have a caliper?

[nova cove]

6&6 and yes

[lime solar]

6 seems excessive (atleast for non structural parts), lol

Try using the 0.8cube calibration

It works well

[hard coral]

I usually use this one

[nova cove]

'

Hmmmm

Methinks this could be a pretty good start

[hard coral]

you're on a 0.4 nozzle, right?

[nova cove]

Aye

[lime solar]

Those are better for axis calibration IMO

[nova cove]

Although I do have .02s to .08s

[lime solar]

Try this:

https://youtu.be/LDAnTXyDKOI

[hard coral]

if you feel like checking to see if your squish is good

^ that's from ellis's print guide

[nova cove]

I think I'm pretty good axis wise

Same filament in blue

[lime solar]

Top surface seems a bit rough

[hard coral]

can you show it from the side? either x or y?

[lime solar]

Can you feel the bumps if you run your finger on it?

If yes, dial down your flow rate a bit

[lime solar]

Seems a bit low

[nova cove]

On the cube?

[hard coral]

for context this is a tronxy x5sa (that has a horrible motion system) with anycubic grey pla on an 0.5 cht

[lime solar]

Yes, where 'z' is

[nova cove]

Z is a little rough yes

[hard coral]

that actually looks really good from the sides

[lime solar]

Was printed with flow at 100, yes?

[nova cove]

Im pretty sure, yes

[lime solar]

It does 😁

[nova cove]

Thank you 🙂

[lime solar]

Use same settings, change only flow to 96-97 ish

See how that works for ya

[nova cove]

10-4

[lime solar]

Cura released 5.3 btw

[nova cove]

The internet told me this stuff was easy lol

(im kidding, half of this is the result of my own tinkering)

[hard coral]

the internet is obviously very correct

[lime solar]

It is once you find your way around, lol

It's like driving

[nova cove]

I have a terminal case of shipwright's disease

[hard coral]

honestly, good luck... I was on struggle bus trying to figure out PLA for like a month

[nova cove]

I must play with the thing

[lime solar]

First its an overload of info, then its second nature. Lol

[hard coral]

can I introduce you to the lord our savior the voron switchwire? 😂

[lime solar]

Frustrating but best way to learn

[hard coral]

(kidding, don't do that)

[lime solar]

Haha

[nova cove]

All my hobbies get really expensive really fast

[hard coral]

yeahhhhhh, let's not talk about that 😳

[nova cove]

Im gonna go to cheaper things like golf or wine tasting

[hard coral]

or photography or guns, I hear both of those are super cheap 😂

[nova cove]

Well I did just drop 2k on a shotgun sooo....

There goes my tax refund

And bonus...

and...

[hard coral]

says nothing about the fact that he started in jan with a e3v2neo and now has a tronxy x5sa (being converted to vzbot), a vz330awd that he needs to finish building and a qidi x-plus 3 being delivered next week

[nova cove]

If it makes you feel anybetter I got a half broken CR-10 im not even tinkering with yet

[lime solar]

Cr10 frame is nice

[nova cove]

came in all sorts of screwed up from an Amazon return auction thing

[lime solar]

Mine is a modded cr10

[nova cove]

Its a slow process

[hard coral]

I'll just leave this here https://youtu.be/0t4zVtzr5Jg

[lime solar]

LOL

[nova cove]

but it was dirt cheap and that boy is LORGE

[lime solar]

Saw that

[lime solar]

If you are taking up modding it, use an AC bed

[hard coral]

oh, btw, I'm going to warn you off now: do not buy a 3dfused kit

[lime solar]

DC would take a lifetime to warmup

Especially the stock 12V one

[hard coral]

their dual-rail y axis isn't horrible, but their customer service isn't great and it's definitely not worth the $400 for their full xyz set

[nova cove]

To be totally open about it, the only reason i got into 3D printing was for 2A3D stuff

[lime solar]

What'a that?

[hard coral]

printing pew pew

[lime solar]

Ahhh

[nova cove]

but that seems a bit not really what this particular server is for

[lime solar]

Nops

[hard coral]

no, it's more about filament

[lime solar]

Don't post pics of pewpew here either

[nova cove]

Very much understood

[hard coral]

hit me up in like 7 days and I'll let you know how the qidi x-plus 3 goes... if it's as solid as it's reported to be, I might throw it a recommend... for $800 it's cf-capable corexy

[lime solar]

I don't particularly like qidi

[nova cove]

https://tenor.com/view/now-attention-you-had-my-curiosity-you-have-my-attention-gif-17913445

[hard coral]

the only reason why I'm curious honestly is because clough42 really loves his x-cf pro

[lime solar]

Haha

[hard coral]

mind you, that's a nearly $3000 machine

[lime solar]

Serviced some

[nova cove]

Whew

[lime solar]

The x-plus is ptfe line extruder

[nova cove]

Thats a bit out of the tax bracket for now

[lime solar]

You may want to change that to capricorn atleast

[hard coral]

oh, that's the old one

https://youtu.be/06JZQOJEeD4

capricorn tube

[lime solar]

The engineering extruder i saw (atleast the one I worked on) was total crap

And was super clogged

And kept clogging

Might as well get a bambu

[hard coral]

@nova cove if you want a printing appliance, tbh, you might just get a bambu

🙈

[lime solar]

Lol

[nova cove]

Ive seen those but Idk

[lime solar]

Exactly. For the cost to quality, its better IMO

[hard coral]

tbh, I just bought the qidi because it's not absurdly expensive and it'll let me print ASA with a heated build volume

[nova cove]

I kinda like being on the rougher, dirtier side of things

[lime solar]

P1p is cheaper and you can make your side panels

[nova cove]

You should see my Miata

[hard coral]

lol

[nova cove]

Homebrew is my go-to

[lime solar]

I have one dude reach out to me to service his printer

That dude got ripped off

The printer was literally made out of 3mm plywood

[hard coral]

if you don't have a home-built pneumatic valve head on your miata I'm not paying attention https://youtu.be/E9KJ_f7REGw

[lime solar]

Lol

[nova cove]

Okay Koenigsegg is a freaking wizard

That dude is in 3023

He's insane

I havent

[hard coral]

those guys print their own turbos in house 🙂

[nova cove]

Madmen

Thats incredible

[hard coral]

it's cheaper and more accurate to do selective laser sintering in house than it would be to try to cnc or outsource

[nova cove]

Not even cast then

[nova cove]

just straight up print a turbo

[hard coral]

ummmm

[nova cove]

It's fine

[lime solar]

Wanna see the gear? Lolll

[hard coral]

yeah, but those machines cost more than your house

[hard coral]

yes please

[lime solar]

Behold!

[nova cove]

Oh yeah, I used to to work at a pipe threading plant

CNC machines and mills and whatnot

[hard coral]

is it printed out of PLA?

[nova cove]

lord the money those cost

[hard coral]

I also love how 2 of those screws are backed out like 4mm

[lime solar]

Lolll, nops. Seem to be molded plastic

[nova cove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-gif-12788383

[lime solar]

The hotend

[hard coral]

bruh

[lime solar]

Lolll

[hard coral]

y'know what my answer to that whole mess is?

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-nope-tracy-morgan-spfi6nabVuq5y

[lime solar]

The whole thing

[nova cove]

@lime solar added a note for you

[lime solar]

Haha

[hard coral]

so it's a plywood prusia clone only worse?

[lime solar]

Pretty much

[hard coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5eFp76zhsq3uw

[lime solar]

Looks like the first version of printers when it was in its infancy

[lime solar]

Pretty much what I told the dude

He bought it for the low low price of $220 ish

[nova cove]

Whatcha wanna do is head to Amazon or Microcenter or something

And just go get a stock Ender

[lime solar]

Reminds me I need to add klipper to that 😆

[lime solar]

Not available here

Lol

[nova cove]

Booo

[lime solar]

Am a dot on the map

[hard coral]

you could get a brand new ender 3 and a couple spools of filament for that

[nova cove]

She don't look like she gonna chooch no more

in my best AvE voice

[lime solar]

Shipping is kinda expensive over here sadly. Which is why they cost more

[nova cove]

Ouch

[hard coral]

makes sense then why you're maintaining printers for people

[nova cove]

Thats rough buddy

[lime solar]

I am polymaker's official reseller for here actually

But I also sell printers

And offer maintenance/fix services

[nova cove]

Well I certainly appreciate both of your guy's help

Very much, thank you

[lime solar]

You're welcome. We'll get your printer spitting good parts soon 😁

[nova cove]

I mean it was all going pretty well til I snapped my Y belt and decided to modify

Sometime stock is just good enough

[lime solar]

Once you mod something, you must almost always retune stuff

[nova cove]

Oh yeah

See: My Miata again

[lime solar]

And you should also tune for each filament you use

[hard coral]

need pics

[nova cove]

poor bastard needs so much work

[lime solar]

Lol

[nova cove]

Car probably saved my life though

Woulda never found the friends I did without it

And I was in a rough spot

Its a bad photo

but there's my boy

And there he is going to by buddy's shop for a long needed overhaul

I call him "Prince" on account of the purple

[hard coral]

NA, not bad... have you swapped it?

(mostly I'm curious if you're 1.6, 1.8 or put something else in there)

[nova cove]

Its a 1.8 for now but me and my buddy are doing a bench build engine with a little turbo soon]

Cylinder 3 is all but dead

[hard coral]

destroked k24's are nuts

[nova cove]

Planning on a solid 220-270 HP

I don't need too crazy

Im not racing it, its a car Im gonna be buried with

So I cant abuse it too much

Plus the transmission doesn't handle much more than about 200 ft/lbs before it starts making the magic metal dust inside

[hard coral]

iirc taylor ray did his k-swap on his cefiro with a 350z trans

[nova cove]

Oh yeah theres upgrade paths galore

[hard coral]

these guys apparently spent like $10k to k-swap their NA: https://youtu.be/Br-_1oxuGSY

but if you do k-swap, you've got a bulletproof motor that costs about $500 for a spare core

[nova cove]

I has a wild notion of a 3.8 Supercharged V6 from a Bonneville with a T5 World Class

in the other chassis I had

but that projects dead and I sold the motor

[hard coral]

and the k-series can handle like... 280-300lb-ft of torque or so before you need a forged bottom end

[nova cove]

Some songs remain unsung

But it was a stout motor

[hard coral]

so if you were to setup a bone stock k24 at like... 350-380hp, it'll last forever

[nova cove]

I couldve asked 800HP out of that thing

The endgame was to take it to the salt flats and make the little Japanese car do 200mph

[hard coral]

that'd be funny

[nova cove]

Screaming all the way

Just supercharger whine all day long

Speed doesnt scare me enough as it should

[hard coral]

https://youtu.be/JrFzPvWna6g 😏

[nova cove]

Ive just never been a big Honda guy tbh

[hard coral]

the only things kyle hasn't k-swapped that he owns are his tow rig and his tesla, though if he could, I'm sure he would

[nova cove]

Like I get the swaps and theres some Civics that I give mad respect to

but its just not my scene

[hard coral]

really the main reason for it is that it's cheap, it's plentiful, it's powerful (enough) and it's reliable

[nova cove]

If I won the lottery, im going rotary

[hard coral]

😏

[nova cove]

Because Im a masochist

[hard coral]

I too like

[nova cove]

https://youtu.be/sxXtpMngivM

ALL HAIL THE 787B

[hard coral]

have you seen rob dahm's 4-rotor?

[nova cove]

oh yeah

Also Ferrari's 312B

goddamn does that get me excited in unexpected places

[hard coral]

oh, btw, both mad mike and adam lz have NA 4-rotors now

adam lz 4-rotor swapped an a90 supra

[nova cove]

Oooh

Ill have to check that out

https://youtu.be/1_kwxzU4wL4?t=48

This noise

This is the noise of GOD

3L flat 12 just absolutely HOWLING

Absolute madness contained in an aluminum alloy crankcase

and not enough air in the world to feed it

I pray for the day F1 returns to the V10

[hard coral]

probably won't happen, not environmentally friendly enough. I'm going to take off and get some chow 🖐️

[nova cove]

Alright man

Nice talking to you

and thanks again for the help

[hard coral]

just for fun

[nova cove]

nice

[hard coral]

honestly it doesn't look the best imho, but nobody has raised their hand to help me with my ASA fuckery

[nova cove]

Thats beyond the scope of my knowledge

otherwise Id try

[lime solar]

Open a thread with your issues and we'll get it sorted

[hard coral]

I did that after ted opened his lol (by 5 minutes)

[lime solar]

Checking now, lol

[nova cove]

So much better

[lime solar]

Awesome!

[hard coral]

that's outstanding

[nova cove]

So its definitely worth flow cubes

Don't be lazy, tune your nonsense

[hard coral]

https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/

it's very voron/klipper-focused, but it's pretty cool in that it shows you what all can be done

[nova cove]

It just struck me as weird because I printed other stuff, same filament, same settings, everything

Came out fine.

[lime solar]

Check all your screws

Gear etc

Specially set screws

You might want to use skirt instead of brim btw 😁

[hard coral]

oh, with regards to screws, personally... if it's something that can come loose, the bitch gets blue locktite (on my ender)

[nova cove]

Honestly with everything else I'm involved with, I'm buying blue loctite by the drum soon. Lol

Like the crass American I am with Frank's Hot Sauce, I put that stuff on everything