Jaden's Printing Journey

[earnest epoch]

Well, that was mine if it makes you feel better

[lucid flame]

how do you even fix that

[earnest epoch]

Mount everest

[worn shell]

Ok you got this @earnest epoch I’m gonna work on canbusss

[lucid flame]

do you just... bend it at the middle?

[earnest epoch]

Changed it for a glass mirror surface

[lucid flame]

ohhh

that's what I have rn

I can't lower that back corner any more, the wheel won't turn. Perhaps I can compensate and lift the front right

[earnest epoch]

I need to go off for a bit, have a few things to take care of

Finally, canbus!!! Woohoo

[earnest epoch]

Try to rerun the screw levelling

[lucid flame]

I appreciate the help so far guys, I'll keep working on this!

[earnest epoch]

It's a process. Frustrating, but you learn a lot from it.

[worn shell]

If you need me ping me the dm it makes noise lol

[lucid flame]

So far I'm consistently just changing which corner is obnoxiously high

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-mackie-blank-stare-blinking-gif-7516319

wiggled the bedplate because I was annoyed and discovered le front eccentric nut wheel wasn't even touching

the level result hasn't really changed but at least it'll be stable enough to adjust

[earnest epoch]

I like tightening the screws as much as possible. The regular springs are too squishy. Most people usually change to either harder springs, silicon mount or rigid mount

@lucid flame Follow this for your calibration:
https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/

[lucid flame]

I’ve come pretty close to level now that the plate isn’t wiggling around

I see a .191, is that the distance between highest and lowest point?

Ok just answered that

Got it level!

Took like 20 rounds but it's at a .155 deviation

instead of a .8

[earnest epoch]

Sweet!

[lucid flame]

so if y'all watch your prints with klipper, what's the highest layer count you've had

[worn shell]

ALOT lol

275mm x 0.08

[lucid flame]

2.2?

First layer is going pretty solid so far, got some odd waves but they're not causing problems

[earnest epoch]

Waves likely due to resonance. Do an input shaping later on.

Above is without IS, below is with IS

[lucid flame]

not quite that

But I will do a resonance tune after this

I've just been waiting to print this for like two weeks now🙃

It’s just the one row, hence why I’m not too concerned

Had a couple instances where the nozzle scraped the rounds but I lifted Z again and it fixed that

Oddly enough, I had to lift Z rather than drop it

I'll have to adjust the config file after this, it's about .35 off

Also have to figure out the camera issues, it frequently drops to 1-2 fps

[worn shell]

So next time you do your paper test you know that the tightness you had that time was to tight. Gotta be able to move it just a lil bit more than that.

[worn shell]

No news is good news right? 🤞 @lucid flame

[lucid flame]

So far yes

[lucid flame]

2 color sections further and it still looks really good

Think after doing the input shaping and adjusting Z in the cfg file i can continue the plane

it does have two odd lines that I'm not sure why they're there, but I can show you when it's done so it's not moving around chaotically

[earnest epoch]

That would be helpful

[lucid flame]

Ignore the bottom, that was before I raised Z. The two lines in yellow

It’s not a shift, it’s just squished out on that layer or two

It’s almost lined up with the color changes really

[earnest epoch]

Could be the z axis is catching or the wheels have some irregularities.

Does not really look like an extrusion issue

Try using some machine mineral oil on the lead screw

Just a few drops

[lucid flame]

Will do once I get some

The yellow ones are the only ones that really made me go hmm, the rest are normal for this filament

The switch thing I made has the same lines

Same with a couple smaller items of this type

[worn shell]

You can also move the gantry up and down in that area and see if you find anything rough or sticky spots. Never know I could be just some crud stuck to it too.

[earnest epoch]

The crud is the e3 😆

[lucid flame]

It’s finally done

Sandwich for reference😂

It looks really good, honestly could’ve gone with 10% infill

It’s fairly heavy and used 90% of my kg roll

Beautiful. Perfect fit in the milk crate

If I had a better understanding of designing parts, I’d make some different fans and then a psu mount

[worn shell]

Question is…. Did you leave air cooling holes so you can run a fan over all them drives 🙂 lol

There are a handful of printable cases out there. Search thangs and you’ll come up with one. But ya part design is hard. I gotta get use to a program and run with it

[lucid flame]

Yes

[worn shell]

Sweet

[worn shell]

And you designed that yourself?

[lucid flame]

sadly no

i'm not there yet

oh it sent twice

I found it on thingiverse

[worn shell]

All good just was about to say well what kinda issue you having lol

Well wonderful print still!

[lucid flame]

Indeed, it came out very well minus those two rows in the yellow

But even then those don't affect anything

The only thing I have to figure out now is how to design something to keep the drives in

Like if I want a bar down the front or something hinged

I think a clip on bar would be easiest, since it’s not like they’re being swapped out

[earnest epoch]

@lucid flame Glad the printer is finally working and pushing out useable parts!

[lucid flame]

Me too!

Trying for a plane part, it's a smaller one so we'll see what happens

I'm nearly out of the good filaments though

[earnest epoch]

Lol

Get some polymaker spools 😁

[lucid flame]

I plan to next week, that’s why I asked about the 3djake.de supplier

Since I’d rather have 2 day versus 10 day shipping

I love the pastels

[earnest epoch]

Polyterra?

[lucid flame]

Yesss

[earnest epoch]

Polyterra is good for mostly aesthetic prints (IMO). The layer adhesion isn't super great.

If you need a pla for mechanical parts, PLA PRO is a better choice

[lucid flame]

I didn’t see a pro, saw like a pla max?

I’m wanting to do mostly RC stuff, dabble in prosthetic designs(need the flexible filament), and some stuff I can sell on Etsy to make up for costs

I’m almost done with this plane

The printing part anyways

[worn shell]

So tpu 95hf for flexible, pla max is prob poly max pla. Id send an email asking to be sure. If there a polymaker reseller they will have the ability to get almost anything on the website. Poly max pla is good for frames and stuff. Pla lw (light weight ) is really good for doing drones. You swap the nozzle to an all metal you can run petg which opens a whole new world off more ductile plastics.

[earnest epoch]

Pro will be under polylite series

Polymax is a different ball game. More expensive too.

[lucid flame]

Ok, sounds like I’ll want to find LW for these particular projects and max for the rc cars

Started seeing some extrusion problems but I cleaned it and upped the extrusion factor to 105% since it’s a really minor amount

I think I can still use this part since it’s a slower test plane, but in the future I’ll be a bit pickier

So we’ll see if the cleaning and the upped factor improves the second, identical part for the other wing

Of course, it’s helpful to print with filament in the extruder

[lucid flame]

Hmm, second part did it too, and the bottom warped up

Think I need to turn down the heat on the bed?

It’s minor but really, unacceptable for this kind of print since it needs to be precise

[earnest epoch]

Which filament is this again?

[lucid flame]

I don’t remember the brand, I think SunLu? Was just a set of 6 250g PLA rolls

Nah actually not sunlu

[earnest epoch]

Whats your bed temp?

[lucid flame]

60

[earnest epoch]

Too hot for pla

[lucid flame]

Gotcha, 50?

[earnest epoch]

Glass?

[lucid flame]

Yes

[earnest epoch]

45-50 should be fine

[lucid flame]

Coolio

I'll try that

[earnest epoch]

Its the coated glass?

Or plain regular one?

[lucid flame]

I'm honestly not sure

Let me look

Yes

Coated

[earnest epoch]

50 it is then

[lucid flame]

Sweet

[earnest epoch]

What's your extrusion temp?

[lucid flame]

I'm thinking for the extrusion, there's a partial clog because all the parts before these two were fine. 220

[earnest epoch]

Should be fine.

Hmmmm

Why do you think so?

[lucid flame]

Honestly just because the rest of the prints before this wing section came out fine

I ran the metal cleaning rod through with no issues

[earnest epoch]

Do you have some tpu?

[lucid flame]

Nope, only PLA

and silk PLA

[earnest epoch]

What's your print speed?

[earnest epoch]

Could also be the filament.

[lucid flame]

I do the first layer at 40%, believe it's set to 50mm/s, and then I up it back to 95 for the next few layers, and then after it's absolutely solid I can go up to 110-130% no issue normally

It's only these parts not appreciating that

I ran the second print of this wing section a lot slower and the same issues persisted

First layer at 30% and then the rest at 90%

[earnest epoch]

What's your cooling?

[lucid flame]

Fan at 100

[earnest epoch]

Retry the same gcode, just lower bed temp

See if that help

You can also use some glue stick if it's still warping a bit

[lucid flame]

Will do

Not tonight, but can tomorrow

[earnest epoch]

No hurry

[lucid flame]

Can't wait to get paid so I can get some better filaments, these ones have given me nonstop issues

[earnest epoch]

Get some polymaker 😁

The no brand/cheap brand are not very consistent unfortunately

[lucid flame]

That's the plan for the most part

What's your opinion on ERYONE? I have a couple rolls that are a bit finnicky but I read that's because they're silk PLA

I love the two-tone blue they have, want to use it for a little quadruped robot next

[earnest epoch]

Silk is a bit weird to print with, especially on all metal

Havent personally used eryone, but some say it's good. I guess depends on the type. Pla, petg etc

[lucid flame]

Like I got the hard drive rack to come out pretty well after playing with temperatures and numbers. That's ERYONE metallic

That's true

[earnest epoch]

But for pla (and with all metal), i'ld rather choose polymaker because of their jamfree technology

Except the silk, all their pla have it

Makes a world of difference

[lucid flame]

I mean it sounds like silk is weird anyways

I think I've picked what I want, just need to wait for mullah

[earnest epoch]

For silk I got good results with iwecolor

They have nice colors for dual/tripple filaments

[lucid flame]

Ooo those are some pretty colors

Terrifying rabit on the front page

rabbit

[lucid flame]

I really like the kinda copperish/orange/yellow one, is that IWECOLOR?

[earnest epoch]

Yep

[lucid flame]

Noice

I think I like that more than the blue

[earnest epoch]

They just released a new 1

Black purple

[earnest epoch]

Which one? Leftmost on the pic?

The blue/green and gold silver is nice

[lucid flame]

No, it's third from the right

[earnest epoch]

Ahhh, I think this 1 is red/yellow/green

[lucid flame]

Hmm I can kinda see that

Ooo the one on the right is nice there

[lucid flame]

Ok so the third attempt at that part came out usable enough I hope

Despite setting the bed to 50, the same area warped but less

Extrusion issues still but less, I’ll up it more

[lucid flame]

It doesn’t stop lifting at the front

Even the brim

[earnest epoch]

Give the bed a good wash with dishsoap and a wipe down with IPA just before printing.

[lucid flame]

Done, I think it is better, just got my eyes dilated so I can’t see too well that close

But it became a shiny black blob versus a grey and black blob

[earnest epoch]

Now add gluestick, lol

Uae a good one. Not all gluestick works

[lucid flame]

I got some globus glue that’s worked in the past

[earnest epoch]

Try lowering you z-offset slighlty also

[lucid flame]

The amount of blue left in regards to what's needed is questionable but here goes

[lucid flame]

we be lookin good so far

I don't understand the placement of the lines but i'm sure there's a reason

[earnest epoch]

What lines?

[lucid flame]

i think the support lines

all the pieces have them

one sec, lemme try to show

The vertical ones kinda scattered about

[earnest epoch]

support lines?

[steep lagoon]

@earnest epoch you should show these to nick or medic for the website

[earnest epoch]

I don't mind at all but those arent polymaker's though

[steep lagoon]

Maybe as an example of showing off the duel colors these really work great

[earnest epoch]

Sure. @full umbra @gleaming girder does that work?

[gleaming girder]

I think you tagged the wrong medic

[earnest epoch]

Ehem 😅

My bad

@steady wraith

[steep lagoon]

Lol

[steep lagoon]

Hahha sorry about that

[full umbra]

Sorry what would work? 🙂

[earnest epoch]

@full umbra bob suggested this

[steep lagoon]

This model to show off the duel silks

[lucid flame]

Hold on

They line up with that support bracket. It’s only this piece so I don’t think it’s an issue with the printer

Whoa there’s more people in my thread😂 welcome to my contained chaos

Airplane is almost done

[earnest epoch]

Isnt that a cutout anyway?

Looks like z-seam

[lucid flame]

Nah it’s just extra support because something is mounted there

The other side is hollow

See

I think the servo goes there

[earnest epoch]

Thats the cutout I meant XD

[steep lagoon]

Up to 1250 messages already!!

😭

[earnest epoch]

Increase your accel, you can read faster! 😁😁

[lucid flame]

ohhh I thought you meant I'd have to cut it out lol

[lucid flame]

I am really honestly not surprised lol

[lucid flame]

Man it really can't print these last few pieces. They're like the size of an apple seed lol

just keeps melting onto the nozzle

[earnest epoch]

Pic?

[lucid flame]

one sec

[worn shell]

Did you replace the thermistor on that?

Mine was all engrained in there lol

[lucid flame]

No I didn't yet

The heat block needs to be replaced sooner than later

but so far it holds its temp

[full umbra]

oh wow! these are amazing!
We should definitely print them and take picture for the website!
Is this your model or copyrighted?
( @steady wraith New project? 😄 )

[steady wraith]

I can do it once we find out about the copyright

[earnest epoch]

Hehe, not my models but if I recall correctly, the author did give polymaker permission to use the vase for ads etc. @steady wraith

Vase mode really shows the beauty of dual/triple color

[full umbra]

Awesome, I guess we will start a new project 😄
Thank you so much for sharing!

[lucid flame]

Every part to this plane is finally printed😄 hopefully none are broken on assembly

[worn shell]

I wanna see if fly 😉

[earnest epoch]

Sweet! Post pics 😁

[lucid flame]

Will do! Hoping to get the hardware to at least assemble tomorrow, gotta figure out the best way to get the electronics here

[lucid flame]

I have discovered that Orca does not convert the files the same way Cura does

So all wing parts printed with Orca are lacking these supports despite me copying over the settings

Clearly I wasn’t too accurate with my copying, as it didn’t come out the same

But I’m just gonna get a roll of poly maker and redo all non-integral parts rather than roll jumping constantly

Luckily 80% of the parts are fine

[earnest epoch]

Looks like bambu logo 😆

Might want to consider LW-PLA. It's great for RC

[lucid flame]

Yeah I am considering it, for the next plane

No way this is the only one😂

I already know which model I want, just not gonna get it this paycheck

[worn shell]

So depending on how the file was made the support may of not been compatible with other slicers cura dose some really weird things. You can always try and slice them parts in other slicer and see if it changes the preview of the file. 6

[lucid flame]

To be honest, I'm just gonna finish the plane in Cura and then mess around with it

I gotta cringe about spending money first

[earnest epoch]

Cura is nice!!! 😁😁

[lucid flame]

I like Cura, it's what I mainly use

[worn shell]

Cura is the tinker cad of slicers. Gotta step up and hit the learning curve of fusion 360 (Prusa and ss) =p @earnest epoch

Plus cura does unpredictable things when using klipper

Idk why but 🤷‍♂️

[earnest epoch]

Lolllll, i like my granular control of cura 😁

My brain is running out of space for new slicers 😆

[worn shell]

Lol granular whaaa you been glooping things! There ain’t more control than the ss or Prusa lol

[earnest epoch]

Flow rate for each different step. Infill, top/bottom,etc 😁

Me like it

[worn shell]

Your flow rate shouldn’t change like that Sounds like you need to level your bed set your cooling for bridging and re test for the proper flow for that material =p @earnest epoch

[lucid flame]

Why do I have to change the Z offset every time Klipper restarts lol

It's never the same number

[earnest epoch]

What's the deviation?

[worn shell]

are you saving the config after you set it?

[lucid flame]

Yeah it's been saved several times but it just keeps shifting. I think I've gotten it to sit at .015 off from what it was set to, so it may be close to done needing adjustment

[lucid flame]

Between -.08 and .040

[earnest epoch]

How loose/tight is your bed springs?

[lucid flame]

I would say fairly loose because I keep having to level the bed every print

[worn shell]

Ya that would be the next question what bed springs you have on it the yellow, silver, silicone?

You want super stiff

[lucid flame]

stock

[worn shell]

You can crank them down as far as they go and re level at that height tying to min the letting it out

I suggest silicone to be the better ones imo

[lucid flame]

Yeah I've tried that tactic but it didn't really work

I'm not sure why there's springs in the first place, if the printer is built level then wouldn't it make sense to have the bed be firmly attached to the printer? Perhaps it's something I don't see

[worn shell]

I’ve even forced yellow spring into the silicone to make them stiffer

Ya them creality beds warp like crazy every time them heat up is the issue with hard mounting them

[lucid flame]

ahhh I can see that

Makes sense considering that

[worn shell]

You can find I mic6 bed plate and a ac heater but if your going that far you might as well build your own corexy or corexz printer 🤷‍♂️

[lucid flame]

Yeah I'm not there yet

I'd like to eventually

I'm still money pinching, haven't even bought the filaments yet because I'm like aaaa spending money

[worn shell]

No you most def could do it now . 100% confidence lol It’s not as hard as it seems lol

Ya I feel the money thing lol

[lucid flame]

Once my car sells it'll be a lot more free, that's 600 a month towards something I can't even drive -_-

[worn shell]

Geez really that’s no good!

One month and you can have a banging lil voron v0.2 lol

[lucid flame]

Yeah it got left in the states when I flew overseas so it's just been sitting there for almost a year

Yeah that's true lol

[worn shell]

Oh dang. Ya gotta drop it like a bad habit

[lucid flame]

Trying, hard to in the winter of Alaska

Ain't nobody buying cars in 6 feet of snow

I'm just gonna let the dealership buy it from me if they give me like 13 for it

[worn shell]

But ya Enders are just like that. There touchy need there hand held printers 100% of the time lol

[lucid flame]

On the brighter side of that you learn the ins and outs pretty quick

[worn shell]

Ya your not kidding lol That like let it go to a local for scrap kinda situation lol

[lucid flame]

Not a 2018 with 60k miles lol

[worn shell]

Ehhh 🤷‍♂️ people get frustrated and end up quitting and stuff cause of it tho too.

[lucid flame]

Yeah I see that a lot around me

Many, many printers for sale for cheap

[worn shell]

🤷‍♂️ idk lol Sound like my sailboat lol

[lucid flame]

There's an Ender 3 pro for 150 like 5 minutes from me

[lucid flame]

ooo sailboat

[worn shell]

Sail and bust out another thousands

Lol

Super expensive hobby

[lucid flame]

I really want a boat by the time I'm 35, I love going out on the water

Yeah, it is

[worn shell]

You can get them in comgrow for $70 lol

[lucid flame]

The pro?

[worn shell]

It is fun for sure!

No just the standard 3 The pro are like 80-90

[lucid flame]

I watched my grandpa fill up his diesel ocean boat and part of my soul died

[lucid flame]

that's still nice, makes 150 seem expensive but it's just how it is here

[worn shell]

Even the’ the v2 are super cheap

No that’s not that bad even at $150

You can get a sv05 for $189 refurbished and that’s a ender 5

Like legit an ender 5 lol

[lucid flame]

But that's stateside

Right?

[worn shell]

No that’s global I think Sovol is def a Chinese company

[lucid flame]

ooo

The Ender 5's are nice from what I've seen

Someone I know got a Delta and it looked wicked

[worn shell]

It’s really just ender taking a different name lol

Ohh the zero g

[lucid flame]

There's a place by my work with a at least 10 foot tall delta as well

[worn shell]

https://sovol3d.com/products/refurbished-sv01-sv02-sv03-sv04-3d-printers

[worn shell]

Wow that insanely big. Like can’t imagine what there printing on that lol

[lucid flame]

Giant vases and military training tools

[worn shell]

Noice!

[earnest epoch]

Lol, ahan. Word!

Been tempted with the sv04

But i want to make mine

[lucid flame]

What's the SV05 equivalent to?

oop

got mixed up with the 04 and 05 lol

[earnest epoch]

E5 maybe

04 is idex if am not mistaken

[lucid flame]

Yeah chewy said that earlier

I misread tho

Sadly they're sold out

[earnest epoch]

Stock up if they are cheap enough 😁

[lucid flame]

Ooh, laser engraver kits?

If it's in two weeks I can afford one

[earnest epoch]

I'ld avoid, they lack basic safety

[lucid flame]

Basic safety? Doesn't sound important

[earnest epoch]

Eye balls

• laser

[lucid flame]

Sounds fine

[earnest epoch]

Not a really good outcome

[worn shell]

It’s a 235 235 300 top mount Cartesian

[lucid flame]

i mean that's how they fix cataracts right

[earnest epoch]

Lol

Blue laser aint super nice though

Be careful with them

[earnest epoch]

Different kind of laser

[lucid flame]

Fair enough

Would y'all say the pastel banana and the army dark green would look good together?

Gonna do the quadruped robot next and trying to find good colors. Want a two tone

Not a two tone color, two colors. Like a two tone truck

bah this just won't print right

[earnest epoch]

Would stay away from polyterra if you need mechanical parts.

[lucid flame]

No, it's just for the outside frame

[worn shell]

pop blue green n pink 🙂

[lucid flame]

ooo that'd look good for the drone

I gotta find a drone design

[worn shell]

there is one floating around of dr quads design

[earnest epoch]

The roach 😁

[worn shell]

no its the moth

[earnest epoch]

Interesting

Need to check it out

[lucid flame]

Found the picture

[earnest epoch]

Saw 1 locally

Went for an unofficial consult for the dude

@steep lagoon that was the printer I saw

Maybe slighlty bigger

[worn shell]

Oh man that’s a tank lol

Lil tiny effector tho

🤣

[earnest epoch]

Seeeee, that's what I told ya

It's a regular v6. Lol

[lucid flame]

So I'm playing around with making a mount for my milk crate computer's PSU, last one was too weak and also designed for it to lay horizontally when it needs to lay vertically. Basically it just flexed all crooked when I tried to put it in. Redesigned it slightly thicker and with support for the legs, but this is my first designed object. Any inputs before I print it?

[earnest epoch]

How tall are the posts?

[lucid flame]

48.5mm

[earnest epoch]

You could add a hole in the center of each post

If needed you could add a screw to strength it if needed.

[lucid flame]

Oh wait they're too tall

Ok they're 44.5mm

A hole for something like a rod?

[earnest epoch]

40mm screws, lol

[lucid flame]

ahhh

Yeah same difference

[earnest epoch]

It doesnt even need to be full length

[worn shell]

Ya tinker cad and fusion are all @earnest epoch thing lol

[steep lagoon]

Love it patio chair time

[lucid flame]

If only, it never seems to be in use when I peek in

[worn shell]

Cause it’s only got an itty bitty extruder on it and it prob takes weeks to finish a big print

[lucid flame]

Then you'd think I'd see it going for weeks😂

I'm gonna try the design without screws, I have some 20mm M3s I could use but I'm not too sure how getting the thread in the object works

I think I'll leave it at 20% infill, I did the last one at 15%

[worn shell]

Na they just abandoned that slow thing lol prob run it only when they have to

[lucid flame]

I’ll take it off their hands

It would have to be in the stairwell though because it’s way too tall for my room

[earnest epoch]

Seen one in action

Definitely not fast

But then again, doubt they were using it to its potential

I still can't digest that it uses regular v6 hotend, lol

[lucid flame]

It's like a Ford F250 with a stock vtec lol

[earnest epoch]

The build is clean, i'll give them that

[earnest epoch]

😆

[lucid flame]

Yeah they've got quite a few of the industrial printers and then some beginner ones because they host classes for airmen

[earnest epoch]

5walls and 35% triangular infill should be strong enough

[earnest epoch]

They aint cheap, lol

[lucid flame]

Ah, I'll try that if this one fails as well. I did I believe cubic at 20

[lucid flame]

No, but the military's gotta spend its money in some way

oop

[earnest epoch]

Haha

The above settings is what I use for my prints (customer)

No issue so far

[steady wraith]

Hey hey hey….

[earnest epoch]

😁

[lucid flame]

Eyyy it’s a perfect fit

Version A versus B, definitely improved

Now I just need a couple brackets to hold the motherboard in, a GPU support, and something to hold the hard drive stack in

[earnest epoch]

Sweet!

[earnest epoch]

Did you use brim?

[lucid flame]

Yes, outside brim

[earnest epoch]

Might want to use a skirt instead

Brim for small base

[lucid flame]

I'll do that in the future

The brim never comes out good anyways

can't connect to the printer no more

Kay fixed it

[earnest epoch]

Restart the pi

[lucid flame]

Yep that's what I did right after sending that

[earnest epoch]

Lol

[lucid flame]

that's not accurate

not enough blue

[earnest epoch]

I experience the placebo quite a bit XD

[lucid flame]

I wish I could glare at the printer and have it calibrate Z itself and be consistent

[earnest epoch]

Lol

Bltouch?

[lucid flame]

Yeah it's got BLTouch

The bed just won't stay level

Think I pushed it down enough to fix for now, if I can get the speed unstuck from 2% xD

[earnest epoch]

Upgrade thesprings or tighten them

[lucid flame]

I've got one side as tight as it can be, if I do both sides it is way unlevel

So it's pretty set for this print, it's coming out nice, the first layer

But I'll look into the springs, I have some spending money left

[earnest epoch]

Use the stiffer ones

Yellow usually

[lucid flame]

Ordered those

But can't stop my printer from assaulting me with the print bed clips lol

[worn shell]

lol pei flex plate 😉

[earnest epoch]

Magnetic build plate

[earnest epoch]

Orrrrr, bare steel with kapton tape 😁

[worn shell]

ya Ive been just buying $17 pei lately lol

[lucid flame]

Thought about it but that’d have to be next paycheck

[worn shell]

Glass sucks or I’d suggest that lol

[lucid flame]

Yeah I have glass now

[lucid flame]

Hmm now the autoleveling isn't working

Every time I upgrade something, another breaks lol

[earnest epoch]

What did you change last?

[lucid flame]

The springs

Back corner is just too high so it tricks the probe into thinking it didn't deploy when in reality it's scraping along the bed

Slowly adjusting it

[earnest epoch]

Reset your z-offset and redo it

[lucid flame]

Yep, working along that

Ok It's probing now

😂

It's flat

[earnest epoch]

Sony PS1 boot logo 😆

[lucid flame]

Glorious

I'll have to finish calibration after work

[earnest epoch]

That's wayyyy off

Lol

[lucid flame]

That's the worst range I've ever had

Mine is normally within .1mm

3.4 mm lol

geez

[worn shell]

so when you set up your bed mesh make lift 10 mm and that wont happen

[lucid flame]

What

[lucid flame]

Well I got my banana yellow and the dark army green but they're making me pick up the grey I got for the plane because they couldn't be bothered to knock or ring the bell😕

[worn shell]

Set lift to 10 mm

It won’t ever pin out and not have enough space to get the pin fully extended

[lucid flame]

Ohhhh

Got it

[lucid flame]

Yeah I can't get it to work at all now

Watch as it starts working as soon as I say something

Yeah we got it now

It was the cable

God

dang

it

freaking heck

so mad

[worn shell]

😎

[lucid flame]

No

[worn shell]

How tf did you do that!

I’ve never seen someone blow a driver out like that

[lucid flame]

It exploded so hard the printer shook my desk

Smoke everywhere

My room still stinks

The copper bus blew out the back of the board and burnt the bottom of where the motherboard sits on the printer chassis

So there’s a whole hole in the motherboard

The fuse didn’t even blow😑

The board actually ejected onto the printer

Copper bits and a big ol burn

[lucid flame]

A runaway spring appeared from nowhere and landed just right on the board. I’d been messing with the printer, leveling the bed from 3.4mm range to .2 with no sign of this spring

[worn shell]

😮

[lucid flame]

I checked it over

Like idk what portal to another dimension it came from

Its not like the printer has pockets

What scares me is it didn’t even shut off

[worn shell]

Nope that how they do. You didn’t short the power supply but the end of the line

Way past where aa fuse would of helped

@earnest epoch

You gotta see this @earnest epoch

If you would of got that on film @lucid flame you could if had a YouTube channel intro!

[lucid flame]

I had the Pi camera going but it didn’t keep any video

My first instinct was to prevent a fire, not record lol

[worn shell]

Oh for sure!! That’s just like gold! Almost worth recreating it! Lol

[lucid flame]

Send me another board and I will lol

[worn shell]

But not lol

[lucid flame]

Lol in a controlled, intentional situation

[worn shell]

I got a few but shipping would be terrible lol

[lucid flame]

Yeah not worth it

I don’t think it’d explode twice either

[worn shell]

That one prob not! You let all the magic smoke out

[lucid flame]

Indeed

There was quite a bit

In the two seconds it took me to round my desk and yeet everything off of it

[worn shell]

Ya they pack a quite a bit of it in there

Well don’t do that again!

Lol

Ever determine the issue with the 4.2.7? Lol

[lucid flame]

No, I never figured out the issue with the 4.2.7

I’m hoping Marlin was the issue

Or else I’m out a printer for a long while

[worn shell]

Well looks like it’s time to start trouble shooting lol

You can pick up a big tree tech skr pico or skr mini e3v3 for cheap

[lucid flame]

I have no spending money

I just got 60$ of filament

And the spring upgrade

[worn shell]

Well we can find one to get it back going!

[lucid flame]

Maybe next paycheck

I'm working on switching jobs so my pay will go up a few bucks an hour

so it won't be as tight in the future

[worn shell]

Can you get stuff from Ali easy?

[earnest epoch]

You summoned the board killer spring? Lol

What kind of ritual were you doing? Lol

[lucid flame]

I was doing the ritual of bed leveling

It was the final adjustment too

[lucid flame]

I don't know what Ali is other than my sister's name

[worn shell]

AliExpress

[earnest epoch]

Lol

What blew actually? The driver or the board?

[lucid flame]

The board

[lucid flame]

I can look into it

[lucid flame]

yeah seems easy enough

Took the printer out of my room, I've never exploded an electronic and didn't realize the smell becomes ingrained

[worn shell]

ya you smell that for a few weeks lol

[lucid flame]

Dude I'm literally so bummed

I can maybe try the 4.2..7 board Saturday but idk how to change the Klipper to that board

[worn shell]

klipper printer.cfg needs changed and need ls /drv/serial/by-id serial added

[lucid flame]

Like the whole config file needs changed or can I reuse it?

[worn shell]

https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/config/generic-creality-v4.2.7.cfg

you can just swap them out

[lucid flame]

Sweet

and I just run the ls in the SSH

easy enough

Maybe I'll have time Saturday, it's pretty booked

as is tomorrow

Wonder if there's 3d printer shops in Manchester

[worn shell]

oh more than likely

[lucid flame]

Hmm mostly shops where you can get stuff printed

Oh well, not like I can bring anything back

[worn shell]

FP3D 3D Printing Supplies

🤷‍♂️

[earnest epoch]

Jake3D?

[lucid flame]

Yeah I was gonna order from them but went with Amazon because I bought the springs as well

[lucid flame]

Site isn’t working from my phone but I can try it when I get there

[worn shell]

IDK if they have one lol

[lucid flame]

Says they do

I clicked the link but it didn’t fully go through

Either way, can’t afford anything rn so I’m hoping the 4.2.7 is fine

[lucid flame]

Ok worked through the emotion of being slapped with several things at once. New board is installed, hoping to get a chance to flash tomorrow but all calibration will have to wait until I return from my trip

And I put the murderous spring in a bin far, far away

[earnest epoch]

Lol

[lucid flame]

Hmm think I might've found the issue for the original connection/cfg issues on the old board

Got 3 printer.cfg files

[worn shell]

🔥

ya the ones with the numbers after are backups

[earnest epoch]

I have a few of those, lol

[lucid flame]

Ok cool

[lucid flame]

Got some pretty flight pictures but now I’m home and can get to working on this printer again

[earnest epoch]

Awesome!

[worn shell]

hope you had a great trip!

[lucid flame]

It was great, first time to the UK and the weather was fair

[lucid flame]

@worn shell , sorry to ping ya but I'm doing the printer.cfg file for the 4.2.7 board rn- am I following the same process adding the bltouch/bed screw information stuff to the .cfg as I did with the 4.2.2?

MCU won't connect but figured I should make sure the .cfg file is correct first

I'm just going through what you sent me for the 4.2.2

[worn shell]

yup all that stays the same need to pull the new serial

[lucid flame]

Already got the serial and put it in

[worn shell]

did you make menuconfig and flash the 4.2.7?

[lucid flame]

Yep, all that is done

I made menuconfig according to the config file's information that you linked here

[worn shell]

ok ya anything that has a pin number needs to get changed

the rest of the config should be fine

[lucid flame]

Okie doke, almost done

MCU still can't connect, it looks correct to me but maybe I'm missing something

[worn shell]

check your usb cord

it looks tho there not talking to eachother

you can do lsusb and it will show all connected devices

[lucid flame]

I'll give it a shot in the morning

[lucid flame]

Still unable to connect to MCU

Pi is recognizing the board, or at least that's what I assume the CH340 serial converter is, plus the /dev/serial/by-id/* command pulls up the printer

[lucid flame]

Reflashing the printer board, it doesn't look like I allowed direct serial connection in the make menuconfig

Didn't work

it's there

[earnest epoch]

Flash it manually

[lucid flame]

Ok the Klipper group helped out since it was a bit weird but it's working

[earnest epoch]

You'll need a programmer though

Had to do this with mine

[lucid flame]

For?

[earnest epoch]

Old e3 board

[earnest epoch]

To flash the klipper fw to the mcu

[lucid flame]

Ah I see

[earnest epoch]

Some older board don't accept fw via usb

You need to flash via ISP

[lucid flame]

I flashed it with the sd

twice

Turns out in the config file there was an extra space or something before the mcu serial id

[earnest epoch]

Lol

[lucid flame]

Copied and pasted it into the .cfg and it's communicating now

Just can't get this Z to work

[earnest epoch]

What's happening to it?

Not moving?

[lucid flame]

no, just a cfg issue

[earnest epoch]

Ah yes

[lucid flame]

I tried to copy/paste the bltouch stuff from the old cfg to this one, but it doesn't want to read right

[earnest epoch]

Likely the pin mapping is different

Is it same board as previous or different?

[lucid flame]

Different, it's my 4.2.7

Was just curious if it'd work

[earnest epoch]

That's one way to fry GPIO also 😆

Just FYI

Lol

[lucid flame]

I don't like the word fry in terms of my boards now

hmm

the 4.2.7 virtual endstop is exactly the same

[earnest epoch]

😆

No clue, need to check

Mine is an even older 1

[lucid flame]

I'm looking at the 4.2.7 config file rn

[earnest epoch]

Think 1st releast e3

Lol

[lucid flame]

So there's no reason it shouldn't work

geez

old board

[earnest epoch]

Yep

But they were better quality back then

[lucid flame]

Honestly older stuff generally is

But would it have survived the spring attack

[earnest epoch]

Haha

[lucid flame]

The true test

[earnest epoch]

Would likely have bounced back 😁

[lucid flame]

Supercharged mode

Hmm, might have to summon the chewy for this. I can't see the difference in these bltouch setups

[earnest epoch]

Yeah. Better.

Can't help much either, currently out

[lucid flame]

But it can home x and y lol, that's more than it was doing earlier

[earnest epoch]

Check the Z stepper wiring

[lucid flame]

I have

That was part of the initial troubleshooting chewy and I did when putting klipper on the 4.2.2, so I've just been going back through that when applicable

Cause that klipper setup kept throwing Z as triggered when it wasn't

[earnest epoch]

As long as 1A 2A 1B 2B match

Hmmmm

[lucid flame]

I mean the syntax in this cfg file isn't being in my favor today so it could just be another invisible space xD

@worn shell , would you mind helping me troubleshoot the bltouch .cfg stuff?

No worries if you're busy

ah nvm I got it

I left position_endstop in the file

instead of changing it to position_min

The only thing now is the printer display doesn't work

[earnest epoch]

Post your current config file here

As it is

[lucid flame]

One sec, it's calibrating the bed mesh

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch of things still

[earnest epoch]

It's always the silly stuff 😁

[lucid flame]

Hmm it won't let me upload the .cfg

[earnest epoch]

Rar it

[lucid flame]

Didn't mean to upload the zip but erm I guess that works

[earnest epoch]

Whatever works

[lucid flame]

Yeah display section is missing

It's working now

Time to tackle the next issue

[earnest epoch]

Which is?

Lol

[lucid flame]

Oh i fixed that one

I unplugged the Z motor when I scootched the printer lol

[earnest epoch]

What's the next issue?

[lucid flame]

But now I'm stuck with a "move out of range" error for the bed mesh

Back left corner

[earnest epoch]

Lol

[lucid flame]

I used the same numbers as previous so it shouldn't be an issue

Wish it would say which coordinate was out of range

I'm not sure what this means

[earnest epoch]

Check your printer size

It usually follow x y z

242 seems too big for e3

[lucid flame]

Yep it is

235

but why is it going to 242

[earnest epoch]

Should be max 225 (usually its 235)

There is an offset I think

[lucid flame]

Yeah it's a 235mmx235 mm

I have the same offset though lol... lemme see

[earnest epoch]

Change it to 220 and see what happens

[lucid flame]

In stepper_y?

[earnest epoch]

Printer size

[lucid flame]

I don't see a printer size in the .cfg

old or new

[worn shell]

you have to use ls /dev/serial/path-by/* it might be path too instead of serial with the ch340 driver too

220x220 is stock for the ender too

sorry im late lol

[lucid flame]

No worries!

Not sure where I'm changing the numbers though

[worn shell]

position max

under x header

[lucid flame]

It's the same config file as the 4.2.2 had except the updates for the 4.2.7, not sure why it's throwing this now

Ok, one sec

like this, right?

[earnest epoch]

Yes

[lucid flame]

Same issue

[worn shell]

so still getting the out of range error>

[lucid flame]

Yep

[worn shell]

hmmm

post config

[lucid flame]

only the zip woks

[worn shell]

Everything looks normal 🤷‍♂️ maybe just pull the 4.2.7 one off klipper stock and save your current and swap them see if that has any change

[lucid flame]

what

what am i swapping

[worn shell]

one sec

download a copy of your printer.cfg in the hold time lol

[lucid flame]

already done, new and old

[worn shell]

try this one

ive already plugged the needed in

[lucid flame]

endstop_pin in Z must be specified

Should I switch e probe for that

[worn shell]

endstop_pin: probe:z_virtual_endstop

sorry copypasta fail

[lucid flame]

All good, it's connected now

[worn shell]

see if it home and all

[lucid flame]

It homes, attempting bed mesh

[worn shell]

👍

[lucid flame]

Out of range issue still

[worn shell]

[bed_mesh]
speed: 80
horizontal_move_z: 5
mesh_min: 18,18
mesh_max: 175,190
probe_count: 4,5
algorithm: bicubic

swap this in

I think I know what up

[lucid flame]

Ok it worked

It's ugly but it's worked

Way unlevel, but not the boot logo anymore

[worn shell]

ok your bed mesh was to big

took it from 202 to 190

[earnest epoch]

Way too big

Don't drop any spring on it 😁

[lucid flame]

Don't jinx me😓 lol

[worn shell]

oh god lets not talk about that

[lucid flame]

I don't have the money rn to get a replacement board for the replacement board

Also by that point I'd question whether or not I should touch printers again xD

[worn shell]

WE all do things like this all the time

[lucid flame]

Fair fair

Got the bed level now, I'll try a print hopefully tomorrow

Thanks for the help

[worn shell]

NP

[lucid flame]

Well that went terribly

Definitely need to tune

[earnest epoch]

What happened?

[worn shell]

Well always have to tune a new board in

[lucid flame]

Well I forgot to change the extrusion so nothing really happened

But it’s proper now, just needs calibration. Printing tiny traffic cones

[lucid flame]

They’re so cute

[lucid flame]

Ah I jinxed it

I do have to say, this filament prints out rather nicely

[lucid flame]

Never received the gray, but that's the mailing company's fault, not Polymaker

I am having some issues with the Klipper functionality, but finding workarounds

Like it won't print anything sliced in Cura, and if it's a large print Klipper disconnects

But Orca works just fine for these test prints. I do need Cura for the plane parts however

And have to find the start gcode chewy sent me so it stops spamming the G3 and G17 unknown commands, but that one doesn't affect anything

[earnest epoch]

Can you post the sliced gcode you are having issue with?

[lucid flame]

I can later

Already shut the laptop down for the night

[earnest epoch]

Np. Almost 3am here also

[lucid flame]

You’re further east of central than I am lol

Oh the display stopped working too

[earnest epoch]

Did you sort out your grounding issue?

[lucid flame]

I'm not sure this one is a grounding issue, screen is lit up but blank as if I never put the display in the config

Which I did

The benchy came out pretty good though

Hmm odd, the display section is gone

Oh right, put in the provided config file to fix the mesh issues

Aight that's good now

[earnest epoch]

Awesome

[lucid flame]

Resliced one of the larger files that wouldn't print and that's working now too, still can't get any Cura sliced gcode to work though

[lucid flame]

G90 ; use absolute coordinates
M83 ; extruder relative mode
M140 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer] ; set final bed temp
M104 S150 ; set temporary nozzle temp to prevent oozing during homing
G4 S10 ; allow partial nozzle warmup
M104 S[nozzle_temperature_initial_layer] ; set final nozzle temp
M190 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer] ; wait for bed temp to stabilize
M109 S[nozzle_temperature_initial_layer] ; wait for nozzle temp to stabilize
G28 ; home all axis
BED_MESH_CALIBRATE
G92 E0

Here's my Orca start gcode above

; Ender 3 Custom Start G-code
G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G28 ; Home all axes
G29 ; auto leveling
G1 Z2.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X0.1 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to start position
G1 X0.1 Y200.0 Z0.3 F1500.0 E15 ; Draw the first line
G1 X0.4 Y200.0 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to side a little
G1 X0.4 Y20 Z0.3 F1500.0 E30 ; Draw the second line
G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G1 Z2.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X5 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move over to prevent blob squish

Cura start gcode above

[lucid flame]

How do I stop it from pulling up this one single section each time😭

[earnest epoch]

Z-hop

Did you calibrate your flow?

Show a pic if the bottom layer of the detatched piece

[lucid flame]

Calibrated the flow yeah

I don’t know which side is the bottom tbh

We’ll go with this side

[earnest epoch]

Looks a bit weird

Do you have a better pic?

Seems to be either over or underextruding

[lucid flame]

Not really

I think Z was just too low

The benchy had tiny tiny signs of underextrusion, but it was extremely minimal

[worn shell]

level that bed and make the mesh number atleast a odd number so it probes the center of the bed so like 5, 5 or 7, 7 or 5, 2000 (jk) lol

[lucid flame]

5,2000 it is

[lucid flame]

So since the snake bits are too shallow to show what’s up, the benchy is a better example. The first few layers come out like this, and then I catch it and lift the Z offset by .1 or .05 and it comes out like the rest of the benchy. However, if I start the print at the adjusted height, it doesn’t adhere to the bed most of the time, or it will at some parts but not others. I’ll adjust the probe count and see if that fixes this issue

[lucid flame]

hmm it looks pretty fine

I don't know how to bring up the middle

[worn shell]

shimming it but it shouldn't need it. Ive printed on a MUCH higher range with no issue. are you still using the glass?

this is really whats known as elephants foot and in cura and prussa both have a setting to mitigate. cura it literally elephants foot you search for and prusa I wanna say its first layer expansion or something like that

[lucid flame]

Yeah still using the glass

I’ll give it a peek when im home

[lucid flame]

Not seeing it in Cura

Doesn't come up when I search

Not that it matters, still can't use any Cura files

[worn shell]

Search for it in Prusa slicer

I don’t have cura installed anymore so I can look for that one lol 😅

[lucid flame]

I’d have to check if I have prusa

And if it works

[worn shell]

What are you using then?

[lucid flame]

Orca

It’s the only one that works so far

[lucid flame]

Well, finally turned the printer on for the first time since the 27th... just to warm up a slice of pizza lol. Turns out I do have Prusa, so I'll give the setting a shot

[earnest epoch]

Loll

[lucid flame]

Well, I need to re-calibrate Z now because whatever the offset is, it’s more than -5. For another night

When I do that in the cfg file, I just put positive 2-5 in the z offset for it to go lower, correct

[worn shell]

If you run lower than 0 I’d just put -10 for your min as it’s Likely you will never get that low. And the ever changing z off sets is just a fact of life will you get the bed as rigid as possible. It never hurts to have a set of rails on y and x on them in z it’s less needed but still helps a lil. Also Alway do your bed leveling with your bed at temp also it help mitigate some of that drift from the z offset

[lucid flame]

Got it, the next time I get some energy for it I'll try that

[lucid flame]

on second thought, what is this lol

must've hit the clip

yep

[earnest epoch]

LOL

[lucid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-george-ezra-im-here-come-out-of-hiding-appear-gif-18119177

I have returned to the building in which my 3d printer lives, and thus I can use it again

I have weirdly returned to it covered in a sticky substance however

[lucid flame]

Course the BLTouch broke

It's probing now, but still flickering the same

[earnest epoch]

Lol, how did you do that?

[lucid flame]

I have no clue

It can't retract the probe, I have to manually do it but it works fine otherwise

Just finished leveling and am attempting a 3dbenchy

Haven't used this in a month and I'm sure it'll be rough

School and work are letting off enough for me to have the chance to mess around with the printer again

I'm hoping the probe issue isn't related to the weird substance that was all over my printer

Beautiful

Ah now the probe can't eject either

[earnest epoch]

Lol

[lucid flame]

Started this thread with a nice pink Benchy, returning with a nice pink Benchy

First successful print in months, done with moving and repaired the BLTouch sensor

Don't really need help fixing anything tonight, just excited and wanted to post somewhere

[lucid flame]

Actually I do need help now

I’m not sure what went wrong here, it obviously printed the top part real nice even though the bottom was torn away

Do I have Z too low or something? Bed temp is 60, nozzle temp 220 according to the specs to print these particular parts

[lucid flame]

oh the elephant's foot thingie returned

[lucid flame]

@gleaming girder here's my thread

@glacial mural here's your invitation

[gleaming girder]

Alright just got home. Give me a minute to catch up on what you've done so far

[lucid flame]

You’ll need more than a minute lol

[gleaming girder]

I see, good lord

[lucid flame]

Yeah I’ve had problems for months

[gleaming girder]

Okay so let's do this. Move the tool head to the middle of the bed and do a probe accuracy check

This is ender 3, klipper, BLTouch right?

[lucid flame]

Let me boot it back up rq

Yes

It's M48 for the accuracy check right?

I pulled up a random reddit

[gleaming girder]

Probe_accuracy

[lucid flame]

it's going

[gleaming girder]

It's going to probe 10 times

[lucid flame]

probe accuracy results: maximum 4.777500, minimum 4.757500, range 0.020000, average 4.769500, median 4.771250, standard deviation 0.005679

[gleaming girder]

Okay the range isn't awful but not great.

For reference 0.025 is the max to get a usable mesh

[lucid flame]

Gotcha

Yeah not the worst but not the best

[gleaming girder]

But that means between two points you could have a difference of 2 layers

Sorry 1 layer

What's the current mesh look like?

[steep lagoon]

Also the Manuel screw tilt

Let me find it

[gleaming girder]

Screws_tilt_adjust

[lucid flame]

It's calculating the mesh, I'll do the screw tilt one next

[rough light]

so whats the newest issue?

[gleaming girder]

Right now I'm just looking for obvious signs that something is wrong. If it looks like a wavy potato chip for example

[lucid flame]

Z offset won't stop changing between prints, cannot get a good first layer

[rough light]

this might be helpful because im having the same issue

are you doin a bed level every print?

[steep lagoon]

Yes that's it

[lucid flame]

potato chip

And it's saying screws_tilt_adjust is unknown

[steep lagoon]

Not sure if it was covered yet but what size mesh are you running

[lucid flame]

5x7

[steep lagoon]

Yes I need to set it up in the klipper config

https://www.klipper3d.org/Manual_Level.html

Look for the section Adjusting bed leveling screws using the bed probe¶

[lucid flame]

I already have it though

[screws_tilt_adjust]
screw1: 72.5, 41.5
screw1_name: front left screw
screw2: 198.5,41.5
screw2_name: front right screw
screw3: 198.5,212.5
screw3_name: rear right screw
screw4: 72.5,212.5
screw4_name: rear left screw
horizontal_move_z: 10
speed: 50
screw_thread: CW-M4

[gleaming girder]

Okay so that means you probably have a flat spot on the POM wheels

[lucid flame]

The ones that go along the rails?

[gleaming girder]

Yeah the ones attached to the tool head. You can try taking it off and cleaning it out, you probably have a lot of black dust up there

Start there. Clean it all up, take them off and clean them up, if there is an obvious flat spot replace them. If not, put it back together and make sure the eccentric nuts are tightened correctly then try again. If it looks the same replace them

[lucid flame]

Just a wee bit of dust

[steep lagoon]

Oh does your tool head move?

[lucid flame]

It does not

[steep lagoon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5TfsJMraZ-o?si=DYi80Rqb40EKe6Gp

[lucid flame]

I got help previously in this thread to fix the whole arm moving

So it's all tight and snug now

[steep lagoon]

Nice

@gleaming girder would you be able to visually see a flat spot by slowly moving the toolhead back and forth on the extrusion

[gleaming girder]

It depends on how bad it is.

[steep lagoon]

👍

[gleaming girder]

I cant really tell from just the mesh without the numbers, but it looks like his might only be 0.1 or 0.2mm which may be tough to see

My old ender you could tell by watching it bounce across the X axis hahaha

[lucid flame]

I don't think I can rely on that method as it's not a smooth glide

[gleaming girder]

It should be

[lucid flame]

It snags

One sec

[gleaming girder]

That's an issue too. May be the flat spots stopping it from rolling smoothly

[lucid flame]

idk if it uploaded aight

alright*

[gleaming girder]

Ha yea okay. The places that it snagged look like they line up with the waves on your mesh

[steep lagoon]

Might try with the steppers disabled or the printer off

[gleaming girder]

OH yeah if you dont have the motors disabled doing this is really bad for them

[lucid flame]

Disabled steppers/motors before tugging on it don’t worry

[steep lagoon]

It should be smooth then.

[gleaming girder]

https://www.amazon.com/SIMAX3D-Polycarbonate-wear-Resistant-Burr-Free-Accessories/dp/B08L1YYZWL/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2O7552C4WNGHP&keywords=ender%2B3%2Bpom%2Bwheels&qid=1696367036&sprefix=ender%2B3%2Bpom%2Bwheels%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-5&th=1

It's a wear item, so not a bad idea to have spares on hand

[lucid flame]

Same thing with it off entirely

I’ll get some when I get paid, I’m dead broke rn

[earnest epoch]

Get a better printer 😆

[gleaming girder]

I would send you some but I feel like shipping will cost more than just getting them on amazon.

[lucid flame]

dude it's so tempting

[gleaming girder]

Hey, we all started with an Ender 3

[earnest epoch]

Just a kidney

[gleaming girder]

Could always use this as the excuse to put a linear rail on it

[lucid flame]

i've got prime, it'd be cheapest for me to just order them. Just have to find the .de version

[gleaming girder]

"ender 3 pom wheels" is what you should search for

[lucid flame]

There's actually a cool looking one for sale somewhat close to me, I just don't have 250 euro

[earnest epoch]

Did you check the wheel tension?