tech-support

[tall acorn]

i'm watching a video on the side while trying to solve it at the same time..

[pearl swan]

how do you flip the top right piece i dont see a button for fliiping

[tall acorn]

it's a drawing mistake

you can't flip it

[pearl swan]

oh

[autumn bramble]

yay my endfield now loads without dx11

[toxic atlas]

ok at pc now
give me a moment

[tall acorn]

alright i found it

[autumn bramble]

Thanks @tall acorn

[tall acorn]

you solved your issue?

[golden zenith]

there

[toxic atlas]

oh ignores beat me to it

[autumn bramble]

latest version of visual C++ fixed it

[tall acorn]

i flipped one of the pieces while drawing a starting attempt from there earlier..

[pearl swan]

i feel like this bot was unnecessarily tricker than the others

[tall acorn]

there's harder ones i believe

[autumn bramble]

game feels much smoother now

[pearl swan]

yeah sure but usually id get it after the Endmin helps me lol not this time

[tall acorn]

the longest a puzzle ever took me was around 6~ minutes, on average 95% of them were either instant or took up to 40 seconds

[golden zenith]

if that is hard, try this

[tall acorn]

i prefer tackling the puzzles in simpler ways, switching to different methods if it's taking extra time

[golden zenith]

pure terminal puzzle

[tall acorn]

make sure to let us know if you encounter any further issues

[tall acorn]

you can solve nearly every puzzle in this game just by looking at it for a few seconds

tbh

it'd be nice if they include some more complex ones in future regions, though it seems they're switching to different kinds of puzzles (which is also good)

even still they'd be pretty basic in-game puzzles

[golden zenith]

alright, delete the photo so no free CTF unlock

[somber hearth]

Herman Miller ftw. I have this myself

It's definitely worth the investment because the seat doesn't die after a couple months

[broken swift]

@golden zenith @toxic atlas so... I tested the studio driver. Left is 595.76, right is studio 591.74

studio run worse than 591.86 grd (best driver for endfield imo)

*595.76 grd run a bit worse than 591.86 grd but it's by far the coolest driver in 59x.xx series

[toxic atlas]

using framegen to unlock fps?

[tall acorn]

benchmarking with frame generation enabled, also only msi afterburner

[broken swift]

Yes

Because without fg, it's always 120fps lock and 60-75% gpu usage...

[toxic atlas]

yeah don't know what to say on that one

[tall acorn]

frametime says zero in the left screenshot

[toxic atlas]

managed to get an ss on a fake frame

[broken swift]

Yea, my bad. I should've used steam overlay but it's a quick 30m benchmarks so i'm a bit lazy

[tall acorn]

could redo the benchmark ✅

[golden zenith]

Need more overlay & graph as well

but it a quick & dirty one

[tall acorn]

i'd consider testing the drivers as well, but i don't really feel like reinstalling and thoroughly comparing them atm

[golden zenith]

understandable

[tall acorn]

if i get around to it, it'll probably be sometime next week

[broken swift]

I did test speedway in 3dmark. The difference is very small.

+591.74 studio 3570 point
+595.76 grd 3588 point

[tall acorn]

in the meantime joker might test them

[golden zenith]

3dmark is something at least

difference between them is quite marginal...

also Joker, if you want you can screw around with the RTSS settings... there a ton you can do

[broken swift]

That overlay preset look cool

[golden zenith]

i created it

[tall acorn]

yeah, whenever i'm not testing different settings for games, i prefer to use a simpler layout which just shows basic statistics

very minimal on the edge of the screen

[golden zenith]

personal perf at this point

normally i hide it

[tall acorn]

quickly identify if you're encountering any issues without it affecting gameplay

[broken swift]

Hmmm, after running around my factory in wulingi think it looks like this:

+595.76 grd 185-195fps
+591.74 studio 180-190fps

Those above are just a quick test, I need to do a more proper test

And btw going to 591.74 studio and go back to 595.76 grd somehow fix the voltage issue of it (ddu not in safe mode)

[toxic atlas]

lmao what

[golden zenith]

oh, nvidia....

[broken swift]

Same reaction lmao. Like wtf? How did that even fix the voltage issue???

[golden zenith]

there an OpenSSL Cookbook

[toxic atlas]

yeah just use the studio driver, perf diff is barely noticeable

[golden zenith]

[broken swift]

Good morning

[toxic atlas]

openssl the goat

[golden zenith]

Hello

Someone Cooked with title

[broken swift]

I thought that was a cooking book at first

[broken swift]

Now it can do a 1.1v stable and subtle 1.25v after i ddu from the 591.74 studio driver. It was a hard lock 1.05-1.06 yesterday when i ddu from 591.86 grd

[rancid loom]

You're testing again?

[broken swift]

Yes and i got a whole new result on the same driver as yesterday

[golden zenith]

Btw, There a bonus episode recently
Fusion Guessing Game

#tech-support message

[broken swift]

🤣

[golden zenith]

one of the moment i just cant

[toxic atlas]

lmao

[rancid loom]

Wow that's a long-ass guessing game

[golden zenith]

Fusion dont understand the diff between a City & a Country

[toxic atlas]

i mean he's Fr*nch

[rancid loom]

lul

bruh who's caliing Andre a danger beast>>

[tall acorn]

rumors they're the secret final boss i guess

🤷‍♂️

[pearl swan]

you only got 1... may base has 6 of those around Andre

[toxic atlas]

mind sharing what distro are you using?

[rancid imp]

Is this a bug? I use the treasure chest tracker and it show me this location, but there is nothing there.

[tall acorn]

search for nearby butterflies or similar mechanisms which may reveal the chest: #help

[dense bronze]

Oh that particular place
Find the fast running slug and capture it like in Valley 4 mission

[rancid imp]

Thank you! It works!

[woven zealot]

what does 'device load' mean? it was fine at high setting at first but been going down to med & low recently

[toxic atlas]

game's estimation of performance on your gpu+cpu combo

it's honestly shit, you can ignore it

the gpu mem usage is more important

[woven zealot]

yeah i feel weird. it still works fine even if it says overloaded

[tall acorn]

-# bloatware in the background (unrelated to device load but still isn't optimal to have)

[restive umbra]

armoury crate

[toxic atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-steve-harvey-family-feud-yes-kill-gif-22934983

[woven zealot]

wat about it

[restive umbra]

it just kinda does piss all and uses resources doing so

i deleted it 4 years ago on my 5 year old zephyrus g15 and i haven't noticed its absence for a second

also it just sucks as a piece of software

theres so many, far better alternatives out there that actually do something and are 10x more intuitive/straightforwards

[woven zealot]

naruhodo. i once saw complaints about it but didnt think too much

[toxic atlas]

Pretty sure ACE also complains about Crate

The game's anticheat

So if you had random crashes or ACE pop up with "illegal software detected" or some shit, just kill crate

[broken swift]

Armory crate

[dense bronze]

Kernel access

With no protection

[ivory cedar]

You could use Armory Crate Gear instead (if your device is supported). It is a lighter version of Armory Crate, and I use it for my Azoth Extreme.

[tall acorn]

i'd recommend g-helper

[tall acorn]

apparently AC causes conflicts with multiple games and anti-cheats for different reasons

aside from just being bloatware

that causes other problems on your computer

[toxic atlas]

Because it loads a kernel driver

[ivory cedar]

Btw, the game uses preset K by default for all DLSS modes, yes?

[ivory cedar]

I don't think that covers peripherals.

[slender lance]

Performance improvements when?
Started to run like arse on a Steam Deck.

[dense bronze]

Sadly just lock the deck at 48fps

Feel almost the same at 60

[sweet rover]

Can someone confirm this one is safe? My friend just share their statistic to me using this one

[short ridge]

good morning tech wizards

[short ridge]

i mean it should be, genshin has a similar one called paimon.moe

[sweet rover]

Okay, thanks

[toxic atlas]

why not use skport tracker?

[rancid loom]

it's already afternoon here

[tall acorn]

similar doesn't mean anything tbh

i personally wouldn't advise you use any pull tracker at all

just check your official statistics

[summer pagoda]

piggy backing off an established tracker like that is a perfect way to scam people

not saying they are

just saying

[rancid loom]

ah yes, pull trackers

one of the best ways to keep track of your gambling addiction

[summer pagoda]

"My gambling story"

[oak wyvern]

tech how big is 1.1 after download if endfield mobile is around 24 gb

[rancid loom]

we don't really have an estimate

[oak wyvern]

will it reach 30gb or not yet?

[rancid loom]

although iirc they already preloaded some assets in the game

so some of the stuff in 1.1 should already be on the files

[dense bronze]

Big as your mum

[rancid loom]

Personally, no I don't think so

[summer pagoda]

4-5gb update my guess

[rancid loom]

since there's a new area, I'd reckon around 5-6 but eh might be wrong

[dense bronze]

New area looks small

But from sneakpeak it's vertically challenging

So the quarry all over again

[summer pagoda]

was it one or two new outposts?

[rancid loom]

one new outpost I believe

[dense bronze]

Not sure we're even getting an outpost

But we'll sê

Problem still remains

We

[rancid loom]

I think we'll get a new one

[dense bronze]

need

[rancid loom]

but ye still not confirmed

[dense bronze]

more

[oak wyvern]

i see

[dense bronze]

ferrium

[rancid loom]

sucks to be you they added a new ore to mine

[dense bronze]

[rancid loom]

Cuprium Ore

[oak wyvern]

time to buy a new tablet

[rancid loom]

oh and by the way we'll be having more usage for fluids and Xiranite

[oak wyvern]

my tablet got 17gb left gahd

[sweet rover]

Idk thats actually a thing, ill check it later

[toxic atlas]

Skipper was talking about it a few days ago while ranting

[wide dragon]

Hello, does anyone got the trouble with joystick can't use on tablet
I can't use it after last 2 updated

[toxic atlas]

What controller do you use?

[sweet rover]

Where do i see that?

[wide dragon]

Gamesir g7

[wide dragon]

I had tried on other too PS4 and Xbox one non of them work

[toxic atlas]

Hm
I know xbox-compatible controllers are a mess on Android
But a PS4 controller should work

[proven sundial]

Easysmx 20 seems to work on both android tablet and phone weird...

I'll check it

[tall acorn]

https://game.skport.com/endfield/game-data

[broken swift]

Try checking if it's in x input mode or not

[sweet rover]

Thankss

[broken swift]

G7 wireless tri mode right?

[proven sundial]

Yup tri mode

👍

[sweet rover]

Do i scan it with my phone?

[toxic atlas]

The new Xinput (used by XboxSeries consoles) is borked on Android

[toxic atlas]

What platform are you playing on?

[wide dragon]

Yes, but it is happened all joystick I used I can't pass anything
Even it does work only walking and Camara control

[sweet rover]

pc

[toxic atlas]

Then just login with mail+pass, like you do in the game launcher

[broken swift]

Hmmm, what is the current mode on it?

[proven sundial]

Also phone model

Need to know OS

[broken swift]

I hope it's not hyperOS or Huawei os...

[toxic atlas]

There's no mode switch on it

It's advertised as Xbox or PC

So it's most likely new xinput

Unless it's a G7 Pro

[broken swift]

My bad, only G7 pro has tri mode

[wide dragon]

How do I check?

[toxic atlas]

Which can work with directinput via Bluetooth

[toxic atlas]

It's the wired-only model, right?

[wide dragon]

Bluetooth yes

[broken swift]

So g7 pro?

[wide dragon]

Yes

[toxic atlas]

Oh
The switch on the back set to bt?

[wide dragon]

Yes

[broken swift]

Try the gamesir android app

It has product guide in it, firmware update ultility in it

[broken swift]

Add device

[toxic atlas]

Also found this

[hard shoal]

To those who play endfield on an external hard disk, how's the gameplay?

[toxic atlas]

Hold A while turning on the controller

[toxic atlas]

Hope you're not actually playing on a hard drive, the loading times are really bad

[wide dragon]

Don't have my device
G7 pro

[hard shoal]

How long are they

[toxic atlas]

5-10 minutes for some

[hard shoal]

damn that is bad...

[toxic atlas]

On NVMe it's like 5-15s, depending on area loaded
The game doesn't do any optimization for hard drives

[hard shoal]

I was looking at the 37GB update for 1.1 and then looked at my laptop's storage and thought that I'd soon run out of storage so thought of upgrading it but getting an SSD is a bit expensive atm and thought of getting a hard disk instead

[toxic atlas]

Or if you have an external 3.0+ SSD, that should work okay

[steel swift]

You can just move your laptop file to external hdd

[broken swift]

Hmmm, strange

[proven sundial]

I think he needs to re-pair

His controller

[toxic atlas]

@wide dragon tried this?

[broken swift]

So apparently, g7 series only support Gamesir Nexus pc

[wide dragon]

Don't wor, just normal connect

[toxic atlas]

You might have to re-pair it after doing it
It will show as an Xbox Bluetooth Gamepad instead of gameSir G7

[toxic atlas]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamesir/comments/1n3oqpr/comment/npqgjr5/

[broken swift]

So no Android app support...🥀

[wide dragon]

G7 pro work with other game no problem

Only with Endfield after last two updated

And I tried other joystick too it only happens with Endfield

[toxic atlas]

Oh
Wait
What phone/tablet do you have?

Some have a "game mode touch protection" mode that interferes with how some controllers work

[wide dragon]

Tablet

[toxic atlas]

Brand?

[wide dragon]

Xiaomi pad 6pro

[broken swift]

HyperOS?

[acoustic cove]

this game have only one way for download? Only launcher or have something else?

[tall acorn]

standalone / epic games / play store

[wide dragon]

Yes

[tall acorn]

there's also direct download i believe

[broken swift]

Well... I'm sad to say that Endfield hates hyperOS and Huawei OS...

[acoustic cove]

ok ty

mb in epic i can download it

[tall acorn]

but it'll require you to play using the launcher, or start the game from the exe directly

[tall acorn]

any particular reason why?

[acoustic cove]

bro cant

[broken swift]

Why?

[tall acorn]

is there something you need help with?

[acoustic cove]

look

109k hours

in launcher

[broken swift]

Epic game only download the same launcher

[acoustic cove]

oh real?

sad

[broken swift]

It's the case for hoyo, wuwa, Endfield games on epic

[wide dragon]

So it is game technical issues
I guess wait tell new phone before it get patch

[broken swift]

Try using cloudflare warp while downloading

[acoustic cove]

its not network problem, only this game and launcher have this

[tall acorn]

follow the guide that's attached in the pins

[acoustic cove]

its second problem what i meet

its crazy

[tall acorn]

it's usually a network issue

[acoustic cove]

everymonth i fix someone xd

[tall acorn]

switch your internet connection or DNS, or try a vpn service

[broken swift]

It's the game's sever issue

[acoustic cove]

where it

[tall acorn]

in the pins

[acoustic cove]

yeah i do it xd

[broken swift]

This has a 90% to fix your problem https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/team-and-resources/devices/warp/download-warp/

[tall acorn]

technical issues guide

[tall acorn]

depends on other factors, but yeah

[acoustic cove]

i have ram leak, i fix it 2 months ago

but tomorrow i met this again

and try reinstal

becouse 2 months ago i change dlss

and it worked

but now its not

[tall acorn]

pins were changed

#tech-support message

[acoustic cove]

yeah i see

[broken swift]

3050?

[acoustic cove]

but i do it all

[tall acorn]

also don't know why hyperlinks are allowed in this server

[acoustic cove]

3070

[tall acorn]

@acoustic cove, #tech-support message

[broken swift]

Try Zencrox's pin, if that doesn't work use cloudflare warp

[acoustic cove]

ok ty

[proven sundial]

@toxic atlas i tried AKE with a ps5 controller on Cachy but it seems to have an issue with the touchpad

But i think the rebind will fix it

That is coming soon

[toxic atlas]

Original P5?

Or compatible

[proven sundial]

Yup original

[toxic atlas]

See if it shows up properly as a rawinput device in control joy.cpl, inside the prefix

[proven sundial]

Just dinput i assume

[toxic atlas]

It should show up as dinput + raw

[proven sundial]

But no it doesn't

Wth

[toxic atlas]

If you don't have the raw tab, then you don't have HIDRAW configured

Dinput works
But you need rawinput for P5 features

Like haptics

[proven sundial]

Ah i see

[toxic atlas]

Try PROTON_ENABLE_HIDRAW=1 in the env

[proven sundial]

I'll fiddle around with it and add the above

And now nothing works

Welp

I'll just revert first

And test it again later

[toxic atlas]

Wait
Set that
And see in joy.cpl if you have rawinput

Problem is when game starts, it locks up any input to the last received value

So if you start the game while holding start on the controller, you'll see the "do you want to exit" prompt but can't do anything else after

[proven sundial]

I will try it later will let you know

Need to do other stuff

[acoustic cove]

GearUp fix this problem

now i can donwload uwu
next step try fix ram leak

mb it fixed after reinstal

[proven sundial]

Удачи, товарищ!

веселиться

[acoustic cove]

ありがとう

[white linden]

So... Anyone know if like the Nivida Driver update cause Stutter for Endfield?

Do I have to delete the Shader Cache

[golden zenith]

Nvidia GPU? Nvidia Driver 595.xx?

[white linden]

To fix the Stutter, or just Repair it.

The Lastest Current one Version 595.71

[golden zenith]

Revert

Latest driver is unstable

[white linden]

🥀 Though some needed in my other games to run well. since they fix stutters in my other games

but oh well.

[golden zenith]

Fun fact, only game we know that benefit from this is Wuwa, most of the other games are affected

[proven sundial]

Bf6 dies on latest driver aswell as endfield and RE9

[white linden]

Don't I remember if like... WuWa need the Current update...? To run well.

🤔

[summer pagoda]

The only game ready driver you need is the one for Crimson Desert

[white linden]

Does going back help any for yall, for redownload the pervious driver.

[proven sundial]

It helped 30+ people already

So def a driver issue

@tall acorn gimme the count

[toxic atlas]

Either revert to 591.xx
Or get the Studio Driver

[toxic atlas]

WuWa is pretty much the only game that got a bit of a performance uplift from 595

[summer pagoda]

Kuro doing everything they can to optimize the game ever since Endfield dropped

[tall acorn]

?

[tall acorn]

it's sitting at 35+ right now or so

i'll recount in a few hours after i finish up the current guides

[proven sundial]

And i am part of the dev team now for emu 🎉

I did not know kuro had 3000 employees

[summer pagoda]

wtf

[toxic atlas]

We got an insider now lmao

Don't mention you play Endfield

[proven sundial]

What is endfield...

Never heard about it

[summer pagoda]

Just the end of a field

[proven sundial]

No wonder animations get pumped out every 3 days by kuro

They got the whole disney team

[sudden sinew]

[patent shoal]

@proven sundial funny moment

and when I open file location

[proven sundial]

Uhhh

[golden zenith]

ahh

[patent shoal]

I dont even have the launcher opened

[golden zenith]

[patent shoal]

[proven sundial]

Now i don't understand no more

[golden zenith]

their webview is causing memleak

what else is new...

[patent shoal]

it stopped after I open the launcher (fresh open)

[toxic atlas]

That's the library taking care of in-game webviews

[patent shoal]

I dont even have the game opened

[rancid loom]

no announced fixes yet btw

[patent shoal]

its just im idling on my laptop

doing literally nothing

[rancid loom]

if it's not PlatformProcess, it's the QtWebEngineCore

[toxic atlas]

Unless you're actually using in-game webviews (the news page, gacha rates & history, web events & store), you can kill it

[toxic atlas]

PlatformProcess starts QtWebEngineCore

[rancid loom]

oh I see

[toxic atlas]

PlatProc loads the additional stuff

[rancid loom]

PP

[patent shoal]

it leaking mem and using disk

wtf

and it uses the read up to 2GB/s at some point

sus

[proven sundial]

I believe they have pakistani devs now

[toxic atlas]

You could rename PlatformProcess and it won't run with the game anymore

[sudden sinew]

performance point

[patent shoal]

[rancid loom]

[golden zenith]

it t404

btw, your husband...

[sudden sinew]

?

[golden zenith]

#tech-support message

[sudden sinew]

[sudden sinew]

https://youtu.be/RgLQCfypDLk

[toxic atlas]

I thought of that exact clip lmao

[sudden sinew]

[proven sundial]

Americans...

[abstract tide]

Thats what I was running into. But also my game started crashing more frequently yesterday still using heroic. Then I downloaded everything again with elysia it runs perfectly smooth. Touchpad still not working, no idea how to rebind tbh.

[proven sundial]

Hmm same issue well gotta retest later anyway

[toxic atlas]

Touchpad won't work until we find a way to make the game not crap out the input system when set to use HidRaw

Since controller is recognized as just Dinput

[sudden sinew]

btw @golden zenith heard ur rich

[abstract tide]

I just go an extra step and open the map from the start menu currently when playing on pc.

[golden zenith]

what make you say that lol

[sudden sinew]

or not? like, almost everything's expensive there, and you lack of water sometimes too

[abstract tide]

The weirdest thing is touchpad working as intended during tutorials. So when they show you the plans in the facility ui it works. Only to not work again in a non tutorial setting...

[golden zenith]

you not wrong

[proven sundial]

For me the touchpad is dead weight haha

[toxic atlas]

I believe that gets handled by an entirely different part of code, dedicated to tutorial

[abstract tide]

It is what it is

[toxic atlas]

I need someone technical that has both a steam deck and a PS5 controller

[sudden sinew]

but yea I learnt that sometimes success means failure too

btw wtf is tha
https://youtube.com/shorts/rzHYgudf_qQ

[proven sundial]

Ah this piece of trash

What a nice os

Nothing works

[sudden sinew]

true

ah accidentally played mac

[short ridge]

"Vibe coded linux"

os is gonna delete itself

when you close a app its gonna delete the OS instead

[toxic atlas]

"yo bro Fusion ain't using this computer we can remove the french pack"

[sudden sinew]

[abstract tide]

ai is good in reading the arch wiki for me

[proven sundial]

Genai sucks vs aml ai

I don't understand why we still use genai

[toxic atlas]

Because corpos invested too much into it and now don't want it to fail

[proven sundial]

It's always about the money in the end

But yeah

We have so much options

That are so efficient

And are far more accurate

[sudden sinew]

like this?
https://youtube.com/shorts/RwlNKD4KOZM

[toxic atlas]

I mean if you ignore Nvidia, yeah

[proven sundial]

I saw steam will add N-proton

Seems interesting

[short ridge]

doesnt it alr have proton , whats so different about N-proton

[toxic atlas]

The fuck is n-proton

[short ridge]

[proven sundial]

Proton next

Aka proton v2

[short ridge]

for what though

[rancid loom]

what does it do??

[proven sundial]

It should give more performance overall

[sudden sinew]

as a linux user....

https://tenor.com/view/linus-nvidia-fuck-you-nvidia-linux-linus-torvalds-gif-5267420752109892596

[short ridge]

i was bouta ask why this was stuck here(i had to restart the game 3 times)

and right then it let me in'

[sudden sinew]

WHAT

[sudden sinew]

me when about to play and wait

[proven sundial]

I datamined

So just waiting

[sudden sinew]

that aside

but YIPPIE....?

[proven sundial]

Should be good overall 🎉

[sudden sinew]

altho you still cant play AKE with it right?

[proven sundial]

As far as i can tell no

[sudden sinew]

dx2d not moving a centimeter..?

no music production and no gaming

[toxic atlas]

Sir this is AKEF Tech Support not Honkers

[sudden sinew]

Honkers

[proven sundial]

Honkrail

[sudden sinew]

add a Railway to it

[short ridge]

sir this is a "Tech-support" no specific name mentioned🥸

[sudden sinew]

the game also means every game

[pulsar isle]

I don’t understand why such an issue happens in a game. Why is it so common in this particular game while other games don’t have it? And why isn’t there a proper solution? Why don’t they implement a definite fix themselves, instead of telling users to delete files or change their DNS settings? It’s obvious that the problem is in the game; if it were on our side, we would encounter similar errors in every game. I’ve tried everything, and I still can’t install the game. Should players really have to deal with this for just a 1 GB download? [ERROR CODE 207]

[open kayak]

Why i have high ms? I have no problems in any other games. Are the servers really that bad?!

[pulsar isle]

probably

[open kayak]

20 ms in league, battlefield, discord and also did a speed check. no problems. in arknight i strangly have 500-999 ms. And yes, i selected the right region

[toxic atlas]

I mean... The AT Launcher for HSR is called Honkers Railway Launcher

[pulsar isle]

I think the contracting company’s servers are pretty bad and they don’t seem willing to fix them, which is why we encounter so many login, loading, and in-game errors. The problem isn’t on our side.

[open kayak]

then we have to wait and hope for next patch i guess

thx for confirming its not me

[sudden sinew]

We got Honkers (hi3) too

[toxic atlas]

That's just Honkers Launcher

[sudden sinew]

ye

[pulsar isle]

I don’t really think the problem will be fixed with patches, because the issues I mentioned actually increase with every update, and sometimes you even have to uninstall and reinstall the game (it happens quite often). I think they need to change the servers — it’s clear that the servers they’ve chosen are quite low quality, and instead of fixing the problem, they tell players that the issue is on their side. But we don’t experience similar issues in other games, which means the problem is in the game, and the company should find a solution, not us.

[sudden sinew]

that's why this

[pulsar isle]

😄

[proven sundial]

The eu/america servers are apparently based in the netherlands

I checked with my isp to trace it

[rancid loom]

I suppose here it's gonna be in Singapore

India since since some of the devs are there

[short ridge]

8B/s is diabological

[rancid loom]

[pulsar isle]

The problem isn’t where the servers are located, it’s the poor quality of the servers themselves. I’m in Turkey and playing on the European server, yet I still experience the same issues. What surprised me was that the American server is apparently located in Germany — whose idea was that, and how could anyone think that would make sense? Was it just because it was cheaper?

[golden zenith]

Asia is SG Server

[short ridge]

1.3m hours to download the game

[rancid loom]

Yeah I know

[proven sundial]

Well the servers are owned by alibaba 😅

[pulsar isle]

😄

[sudden sinew]

that's why there is something called vpn and something called dns

[agile tusk]

not to sound customer support-y but i do understand your concerns. everyone who’s a regular here has seen countless cases of network and server issues aside from graphical and hardware. it sucks. but like any other game, 1.0 is still very fresh. they aren’t going to implement an immediate fix for anything right now, considering they’re putting all resources into making sure the next patch works. it’s very unusual why the NA servers get redirected to EU though.

try another dns, install cloudflare warp or vpn. works most of the time.

[pulsar isle]

temu

[sudden sinew]

aliexpress better

[pulsar isle]

Honestly, I don’t understand why I need to use a VPN just to play a game. There’s already a connection problem, so trying to solve it with a VPN seems strange.

[toxic atlas]

That's only the cloudflare edge gateway closest to you

You can't trace it inside the cloudflare network

[sudden sinew]

because vpn changes routing ways

[toxic atlas]

Problem is the anycast DNS + some gateways being blocked by ISPs

[pulsar isle]

me? 😄 yessss

[proven sundial]

Yeah makes sense

[sudden sinew]

Living in DE here
Also Aliexpress user

[pulsar isle]

I guess the VPN doesn’t solve the problem; I just tried it.

[agile tusk]

did you close and open launcher

[pulsar isle]

yes

[agile tusk]

hmm welp warp doesnt work in this case

[proven sundial]

Turkey gimme a sec

[sudden sinew]

alright, DNS change time-- wait aren't AK:E and Genshin banned in Turkey???

[agile tusk]

usually 1.1.1.1 helps routing issues

[toxic atlas]

WARP is a fancy proxy, not VPN

[pulsar isle]

Before, it at least showed something saying it would download after something like a million hours in bytes, but now when I press download it immediately gives an error.

[sudden sinew]

this^

[toxic atlas]

Use ProtonVPN if you want an actual VPN

[sudden sinew]

attemp quad9

[pulsar isle]

no

[agile tusk]

wait if its a fancy proxy, is there a chance to be considering its stated in the ToS /gen

[proven sundial]

208.67.222.222 works best for turkey users

[pulsar isle]

There are a lot of bans in Turkey, but people like us can’t stay without games. For example, Discord is normally banned (and maybe there will even be a gaming ban in the future, but we’ll find a way around it).

[sudden sinew]

and there are already bans around the Hoyo line like Genshin and so forth

[agile tusk]

steam and epic about to face 90% access restrictions under your government oh brother

[pulsar isle]

hmmm

Let’s wait a bit and see if it gives an error.

[golden zenith]

[agile tusk]

3mbs is better than having it downloading in kilobyte

[pulsar isle]

crash 😄

[proven sundial]

Time to burn down the governements as they say

[sudden sinew]

the 3 solutions we can only offer are:

1. Use Cloudflare WRAP or Proxy (proxy)
2. Use VPN
3. Change DNS (domain resolver, or "url resolver"), best to cloudflare or Quad9

[proven sundial]

208.67.222.222

Don't forget this

[sudden sinew]

?

[proven sundial]

Most used for turkey

[sudden sinew]

ah

OpenDNS

[proven sundial]

It's really annoying for a lot of people

With a lot of regulations

[toxic atlas]

Generally Proxy usage falls under the same rules as VPN usage

[sudden sinew]

wait isn't opendns the problem?

[sudden sinew]

this too

[toxic atlas]

So not against ToS unless you specifically use them to hide malicious activity

[sudden sinew]

that's what telekom uses

[proven sundial]

Not that i see honestly

[sudden sinew]

no, lemme state why with an image

@agile tusk

[golden zenith]

huh, so it borderline not against ToS

good to know

[hazy venture]

wowooo goodmorning y'all

[proven sundial]

Coucou

[sudden sinew]

but it's against ToS if you bypass bans like russians do or @pulsar isle does in Turkey

[agile tusk]

good morning to u as well my little french man

[hazy venture]

...

yeah yeah

[sudden sinew]

politicians said no for real intentions

[pulsar isle]

What kind of violation are you talking about, exactly? Our ban only exists in our country; it’s not really something that concerns these game companies. Besides, the ban hasn’t even been officially implemented yet.

[sudden sinew]

you breaking your own country's norm to get connected to the game is also considered against ToS

[pulsar isle]

Also, these bans will be for gaming platforms, not the games themselves, so there’s no issue concerning us.

[pulsar isle]

Connecting to the game is not a crime — let me emphasize that. Playing the game isn’t banned; there are only restrictions, and these restrictions do not explicitly prohibit playing, nor can they, because the government cannot block something that people have financially paid for. They have no authority over that, and they even guarantee they won’t interfere. Access to games that people have purchased won’t be blocked; there will only be mandatory age restrictions, and they want the games to be monitored. These rules generally apply to those 16 and under. Moreover, since the government directly banned Discord but allows VPN use, I don’t think they would be unaware of this.

[sudden sinew]

[sudden sinew]

just to remember when your country ban the game.

laws shall prevail

[golden zenith]

ToS 4g ?

[proven sundial]

Come to belgium the governement fails to form every 200 days

[pulsar isle]

I’m reiterating: playing the game is not forbidden, only Discord is restricted. Even if I don’t get a response or solution here, I can send an email to have the issue resolved, but it’s faster to handle it here. The problem I’m experiencing with the game has nothing to do with Turkey, don’t worry.

[sudden sinew]

this too, what I mentioned is 19g

[rancid loom]

I just got back here to view and now it's #law-support?

[sudden sinew]

this you mean is the more prominent too

[sudden sinew]

ok

[proven sundial]

Fun fact gacha games are banned in belgium

[pulsar isle]

I guess you don’t understand: games will not be banned in the country, there will only be mandatory restrictions. This applies only to gaming platforms and is a law put in place to protect children in the country. It doesn’t prevent you from playing games; it supports the idea that companies need to take measures and be monitored when setting age restrictions for players. There’s nothing wrong with that.

[golden zenith]

im blind sometime

[rancid loom]

seriously?

[proven sundial]

Yup

[sudden sinew]

it's the one you mentioned lmao

[golden zenith]

my brain cooked & fried

[sudden sinew]

ok then, let's stop discussion and proceed to dns change, thx

[indigo rover]

can I use lossless scaling app with endfield?

[sudden sinew]

imagine you as a developer stand in front of the court lmfao

[sudden sinew]

which one?

[proven sundial]

Yes allowed

[sudden sinew]

normally no

[toxic atlas]

Oh, Crypto Scam incoming

[indigo rover]

the one in steam

[toxic atlas]

Yes

[hazy venture]

really? i thought it was against ToS

[toxic atlas]

Nvm mod clipped it before it got posted in all channels

[hazy venture]

hmm

[toxic atlas]

It doesn't hook into the game or modify it

[rancid loom]

question is, should you use lossless scaling in this game?

[hazy venture]

hmmm fair

[golden zenith]

LSFG is not Against ToS

[sudden sinew]

oh ok

[proven sundial]

Optiscaler cannot be used though

[sudden sinew]

this^^

[indigo rover]

just wondering if it will help my mini pc

[rancid loom]

does it have some positive effects in the game tho?

[proven sundial]

Fg is much smoother

[hazy venture]

unless you're getting above 50-60ish fps as a base we don't recommend enabling it

[indigo rover]

oh

[hazy venture]

if you're getting 30 and hoping for 60.. uhh

[rancid loom]

ohhh

[golden zenith]

that depends on what setting you gonna go for, i used it for FG

[hazy venture]

your experience will be quite misserable

[patent shoal]

the result will be 40 - 50 ish

the overhead is not worth it

[hazy venture]

yeah, and artefacting lots

[toxic atlas]

You can though

If you can get locked 30

LSFG can double it

[hazy venture]

you can

[golden zenith]

lock 30fps, FG x2

[hazy venture]

but it won't be pretty

really not pretty

[toxic atlas]

Eh, it'll be good enough for 90% of people

[patent shoal]

well @indigo rover is ur mini pc have a headroom if it get locked to 30 ?

or whats ur fps target here

[proven sundial]

Wait did the guy with steam deck not use it ?

[hazy venture]

one time i was in warframe with 60fps and i used the app, jesus fuck that made me sick moving around

[toxic atlas]

Question is
What is her current FPS

[hazy venture]

lol

[toxic atlas]

Also miniPC specs

[patent shoal]

yeah

[hazy venture]

minipc doesn't sound very good

but hey, maybe it's T404 level

[indigo rover]

not sure but it is at 30 fps in the settings

[patent shoal]

spec ?

[toxic atlas]

Do you get solid 30? Or does it go under sometimes?

[hazy venture]

try the app and see if it bothers you or not

[golden zenith]

Model or Spec you can provide

[indigo rover]

16gb Ram, UHD graphic 630

[patent shoal]

well

[toxic atlas]

That's a Coffee Lake chip

[golden zenith]

igpu huh

[rancid loom]

iGPU

[toxic atlas]

I3/I5/I7?

[rancid loom]

[hazy venture]

poor minipc

[toxic atlas]

Hey no shaming, game works on iGPUs as well

[indigo rover]

Intel i5-9500T

[patent shoal]

2018 2019 ish

[indigo rover]

yeah

[toxic atlas]

Yeah, Lossless Scaling time

[proven sundial]

Oh right i remember mayu

[rancid loom]

I'm not shaming, just surprised

but hey if it works it works

[patent shoal]

fg will not do its justice here. the scaler sure tho

[toxic atlas]

Game will work fine on her system

[indigo rover]

ello

[patent shoal]

but well u can try it

ymmv

[indigo rover]

is there like a recommended setting in lossless?

[patent shoal]

how big ur ram set to the igpu ?

[hazy venture]

16g is barely enough for the game anyway, no?

[patent shoal]

since its igpu, need to know how big is the hardware reserved ram is

[golden zenith]

well, not shaming... but yea, LSFG magic time

[proven sundial]

70 percent frame blending and fg x2

[rancid loom]

yes

[hazy venture]

hmm

[toxic atlas]

Type LSFG latest (3 iirc)
Mode adaptive
Target 60

[indigo rover]

0.3/7.9 shared GPU memory not sure if thats one

[patent shoal]

the dedicated one

[hazy venture]

not the right one

[patent shoal]

not the shared one

[hazy venture]

what's the shared one means btw? out of curiosity

[patent shoal]

the mem where if ur gpu vram overflow, it will be copied to system memory

[toxic atlas]

It's iGPU, that shit's dynamic

[patent shoal]

u can change the size......

and its still listed on dedicated section on task manager....

[toxic atlas]

You can change the minimum allocated size

[hazy venture]

i think it's better to allocate more than to overflow, no?

[toxic atlas]

The OS will dynamically allocate more if needed

[patent shoal]

iirc, relying on the overflow system is laggier than assigning dedicated reserve

but well

[hazy venture]

yeah to the shared, but it will be slower than allocating directly more ram into the igpu, no?

[patent shoal]

go away

[toxic atlas]

It's an iGPU
It's all in RAM anyway

[rancid loom]

ye

did research, he can adjust it accordingly since the igpu uses the RAM itself as its memory

[toxic atlas]

It used to be an issue, like 12yrs ago

[patent shoal]

if we can avoid stutter, why not

[toxic atlas]

Not anymore

[patent shoal]

the dynamic allocation is not better than the dedicated

before going further

[broken swift]

It's normal? Like my 7530u run fine with 512mb dedicated memory and 4gb shared. Window will allocate it because at the end of the day it's just ram used as vram

[patent shoal]

how much ram he has

[rancid loom]

16GB

[patent shoal]

i forgot the important aspect

[indigo rover]

sorry not sure where it is

[hazy venture]

but why do i have such poor fps with my igpu then

[patent shoal]

the dynamic allocaiton wouldnt run fine if it fight with the os

like, if the ram is almost full

the dynamic is just dead

[hazy venture]

bro has NO dedicated vram?

[toxic atlas]

Win 11 or 10?

[indigo rover]

win 11

[toxic atlas]

IT'S A FUCKING IGPU

That shit doesn't have dedicated

[hazy venture]

MY IGPU HAS DEDICATED?

[patent shoal]

it should has

[rancid loom]

it's an iGPU! it doesn't have any!

[rancid loom]

you're using an AMD right?

[hazy venture]

i cant put NO vram on my igpu

[toxic atlas]

That's the forced allocation from bios

[hazy venture]

yes

[rancid loom]

you have an APU in this case

[patent shoal]

yeah thats the one I mentioned

[hazy venture]

even with my i7 6500u my igpu had dedicated vram.

[patent shoal]

what do u think when i talked about hardware reserved memoryy ?

[golden zenith]

🍿

[rancid loom]

[toxic atlas]

It will not give any boost on post-2015 chips

[patent shoal]

but well, on current maya situation sure 16gb, just let the gpu fight for the mem

[hazy venture]

APU means cpu has an igpu, y'all know that right?

[patent shoal]

it doesnt have any excess ram anyway

[patent shoal]

yeah

and u can change the hardware allocation inside the bios....

[hazy venture]

so why do peopel say I have an APU so MINE have dedicated

and not his?

[patent shoal]

APU is IGPU, its the same..

[hazy venture]

it's like his isn't an apu..

[sudden sinew]

soc means there's an APU with embedded RAM you know that?

[patent shoal]

its just AMD term iirc

[sudden sinew]

[toxic atlas]

Game runs on a Steam Deck with good performance mid settings
They'll be fine

[sudden sinew]

yea...

[patent shoal]

steam deck hardware is newer tho

[indigo rover]

none sadly maybe i need to turn on some setting somewhere? doesnt really show anything besides the photo i sent

[patent shoal]

no need

just let it dynamically allocate

[hazy venture]

APU means cpu+igpu, by amd

[broken swift]

Steamdeck is a lot faster than his 6500t tho

[hazy venture]

tho intel idk what they call it

[indigo rover]

ok ok

[patent shoal]

intel call it igpu no ?

it doesnt have any term

iirc

[toxic atlas]

Fusion has a 6th gen
Mayu has a 9th

[rancid loom]

yes but as a whole it's still called CPU by Intel with xx Graphics

[hazy venture]

6500t? what's that

[patent shoal]

6 is the gen

[hazy venture]

yeah but it's still igpu

[hazy venture]

yeah but why the t

[patent shoal]

xxxt is the type / sku / smth

forgot the details

H is laptop cpu iirc

[hazy venture]

in amd yeah

[patent shoal]

intel too

[hazy venture]

yeah, in newer processors

[patent shoal]

i got i5 8300H

[hazy venture]

6500u doesn't have H but it's also a laptop cpu

[sudden sinew]

imagine U proccessors

[patent shoal]

u is low power

[hazy venture]

don't laugh..

it's shitty enough

[broken swift]

I'm a bit confused, i thought fusion has amd cpu and Mayu has 6500t?

[hazy venture]

i don't understand the link?

[patent shoal]

its still better than Y tho

[hazy venture]

i had both

[rancid loom]

sorry I mistakenly added the reply mb lol

[hazy venture]

lol

[sudden sinew]

me with my old HP:

[hazy venture]

pfff

6500u+940m+6gb ram

HP be like

[patent shoal]

that still had 940m there

[hazy venture]

yeah my hp laptop had 940m

my previous hp was..

[broken swift]

Hey, my 30w 7530u can run Endfield and Elden ring

[hazy venture]

4550U with 840m iirc

[patent shoal]

well, my oldest laptop uses intel and amd igpu combination

funny era

[hazy venture]

lol

[patent shoal]

Ati Radeon 200M

[hazy venture]

you're too old for this

[patent shoal]

and intel core 2 duo

[hazy venture]

/j

[patent shoal]

that laptop carried me through the junior highschool ngl (on windows 10 era)

[sudden sinew]

my 8265u not

[hazy venture]

lol

[patent shoal]

why they didnt put igpu on northbridge anymore

[broken swift]

I didn't say how good it is, it's 30fps 720p medium (barely playable)

[patent shoal]

[hazy venture]

which one?

[dense bronze]

Feel lucky you can even run it

[patent shoal]

device on 2010+ i think ?

[dense bronze]

Imagine playing Wuwa

[hazy venture]

lol

[dense bronze]

[patent shoal]

I forgot the year when they decide igpu is inside the cpu moment

[broken swift]

I don't game on laptop tho

[sudden sinew]

15fps should be what my laptop could

[hazy venture]

pov my laptop rn running endfield 1080p 120fps DLAA with gpu pulling 30w

[dense bronze]

Damm you rich

[hazy venture]

meanwhile my desktop pulls 200w for the SAME fps

[dense bronze]

Ai max 395?

[broken swift]

I thought 8265u is better?

[hazy venture]

no

lol

i said gpu

[sudden sinew]

btw evernight will kill me

[dense bronze]

Oh

[sudden sinew]

nah, core i5

[hazy venture]

i wish i had that cpu in my laptop

[dense bronze]

5070?

[hazy venture]

no

[dense bronze]

[hazy venture]

a bit lower than 5070 laptop

[broken swift]

I thought it's a new amd cpu

[dense bronze]

5060?

[hazy venture]

bit lower than 5060 laptop

[sudden sinew]

lmfaooo

[hazy venture]

😂

4060laptop and 5060laptop difference is a joke, it's like barely 8% iirc

[sudden sinew]

what to gift to her majesty

[hazy venture]

and 5070laptop is like around 8-10% more than 5060laptop iirc

[broken swift]

5070 laptop is the worse scam ever lol

[hazy venture]

yes.

paying 1500 bucks

for a 4060 desktop OC

😂

[rancid loom]

btw if someone wanna watch the DRAM Cartel

[dense bronze]

Me when AI MAX 395 laptop

[broken swift]

8gb only, weaker than 4060 ti 16gb while being 2x expensive overall

[hazy venture]

yk the igpu in that is around a 4060 desktop right?

[dense bronze]

(i don't have one i'm Runing 9070 desktop)

[dense bronze]

I know

But hey i don't get bottlenecked by VRAM

[broken swift]

Nah only a bit better than 4060 laptop

[hazy venture]

lol

😂

[broken swift]

But the price tho...

[hazy venture]

lol

well at least you get a very good cpu

[broken swift]

Nice gpu you got there

[hazy venture]

9070? you typo right.. right??

[agile tusk]

oh shit is this another movie after their nvidia investigation

[hazy venture]

that thing is like 4070 desktop no?

[broken swift]

? It exists?

[hazy venture]

yeah ik

[broken swift]

Between 4070, 5070

[rancid loom]

I think so yeah, this was posted 5-6hours ago

[hazy venture]

really?? nahhh

means 4070s yk?

it's not 4070s level.. i hope

[agile tusk]

chat did u help mayu with their game

[broken swift]

https://youtu.be/txwN9aoDI9U

[golden zenith]

im not sure

[hazy venture]

AMD games? huh..

[broken swift]

@hazy venture

[rancid loom]

I'm too busy eating popcorns tho

[hazy venture]

ye i'll watch it hold on

[proven sundial]

I think mayu ran

[hazy venture]

LOL

[golden zenith]

See....

[rancid loom]

[golden zenith]

you guys scaring people

[broken swift]

[rancid loom]

more like they went off a tangent

and forgot the customer

[golden zenith]

Hey Max

[toxic atlas]

Can y'all stop arguing or shaming people for their systems?

[golden zenith]

you good

[toxic atlas]

No I'm fucking not

[proven sundial]

I said nothing

[hazy venture]

damn, didn't expect that, how much does the 9070 costs for you?

[sudden sinew]

may I see the bar on the left of this please?

[golden zenith]

here, have some hearts

[rancid loom]

I have a 530 but don't think it will show up here in task manager

it shows on dxdiag tho

[sudden sinew]

you're not asked

[rancid loom]

I know but what I'm saying is if it was Mayu's it wouldn't show in the task manager

[sudden sinew]

oh ok

[rancid loom]

anyways gonna wait for the next customer

[hazy venture]

lol

[dense bronze]

You get paid for being tech support here?

[golden zenith]

No

Unpaid labour here

[rancid loom]

I get paid thru happiness...if they're happy that I helped, that's my payment

[sudden sinew]

[dense bronze]

Damm go get a GF

[sudden sinew]

.paypal

[scenic orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-me-paypal-paypal-me-30k-perlica-arknights-gif-3472834387034500009

[agile tusk]

unpaid labor but we get knowledge and lowkey customer support experience

[sudden sinew]

this

[rancid loom]

agreed

[hazy venture]

approved

[sudden sinew]

accepted

[agile tusk]

weve dealt with pebcak more than we receive oroberyls in mail

[sudden sinew]

imagine devs giving us oroberyls for tech supporting

[golden zenith]

worst part is, there a pebcak among us

[proven sundial]

Motivation +500 percent

If reward are given

[rancid loom]

[sudden sinew]

there are more pebmacs among us

[hazy venture]

zencrox would be the most eligible

[agile tusk]

50 / hour

[short ridge]

pebmacs

[broken swift]

[sudden sinew]

yes and you earn only 1/10 from us all

[short ridge]

100 hours of work for just 1 10 pull

insane

[hazy venture]

lol

wait what

[agile tusk]

10 hours of tech support = 1 pull

[proven sundial]

I earn cupcakes

[hazy venture]

seems about right

[sudden sinew]

I earn time for Perlica

[proven sundial]

You mean brrrrrlica

[sudden sinew]

[short ridge]

[hazy venture]

[proven sundial]

I saw too many gmod stuff with perlica

[short ridge]

i am getting absolutelly shafted with these echo rolls man

wtf is this

[short ridge]

yes first time in wuwa

in genshin i get shafted always

i built sk and verina in 2 days

and this is the best echo i got for galbrena in 3 days

[summer pagoda]

oof low rolls on crit

[short ridge]

idc atp man, i just want decent echoes

i also run out of the echo upgraders

[proven sundial]

Small tip

roll per 10 levels

Higher rng

[summer pagoda]

please tell me you are trashing your bad echoes and not fusing them

I raise to 15 and if no crit I dip

[short ridge]

i am using them as a exp for next echo, isnt this how i should do it

[summer pagoda]

NOOOOOOOO

Trash them from your backpack

you get turners back and better xp

[broken swift]

Same, my Angel build is bad

[short ridge]

that looks almost like a 1 to 1 copy of my build LOL

thing is i cant level my charas to 90 yet

i am at lvl 55