tech-support

[prisma venture]

Maybe it's deliberately so from the manufacturer so it breaks sooner.

[broken swift]

Well that's still in safe area. Try using a gaming phone and you will know what's the unsafe thermal looks like

[prisma venture]

Well...it's always the cooler the better tbh.

[summer pagoda]

just don't fast charge and game

[golden zenith]

now that i see my message, should have stated 'where' instead of 'what'

[slim vale]

Can I charge after game

[summer pagoda]

Keyword: and

[broken swift]

I can charge from 0-100 in 17m

[prisma venture]

Ironically, that's not that bad 💀.... An old, slow charger heats up the phone more cause of how long it takes to do it's job.

[proven sundial]

All good their technical sheet is at request

[summer pagoda]

what's that like 60w fast charge?

[broken swift]

If your phone has by pass charging then do it

[prisma venture]

Sounds like 120 or more

[slim vale]

Ok I'm gonna continue playing

[prisma venture]

60 takes half an hour for 5000mAh more or less

I don't have exact numbers so take it with a grain of salt.

[broken swift]

120w max but i borrow my friend charger which is only 100w (i only have 25w charger so i need to borrow my friend charger for fast charge)

[prisma venture]

Fr... One of those chargers could literally eat a regular one 💀

[summer pagoda]

sheesh I wonder where the battery temp peaks during that

[broken swift]

48-50c , hotter than running doom 2016 on phone

[prisma venture]

Tbh whoever invented this fast charge technology is very impressive, back in the day if you made an 120W charger the phone would just burst into flames

😂

A car headlight has 75W... Like got damn

[broken swift]

Well it's a dual battery phone so the battery is actually 60w per battery

[prisma venture]

Dual battery phone ??? The heck?

Never heard of a phone having two separate batteries.

[summer pagoda]

this site is saying that sustained 45c+ will start degrading the battery

[proven sundial]

True mine is aswell dual phone battery

[broken swift]

Black shark phones tho

[bleak cobalt]

Is server down? I cant login

[prisma venture]

Probably done on purpose by the company....they want you to buy new phones all the time....

[broken swift]

It's Li-Po battery so the temp isn't much of an issue

[prisma venture]

Making it so "you never have to buy our product again!" Is considered bad business... Smh

[summer pagoda]

oh, I was assuming lithium ion
anyways, apparently it really only hurts performance after many high stress cycles

[prisma venture]

Never heard of those.

[prisma venture]

Well, yes, that's how they usually get how many charging cycles your phone lasts

[broken swift]

Black Shark, Rog, red magic

The 3 legends for gaming phones

[prisma venture]

Oh red magic I heard of them, they got a water cooled phone 🤣

I'd love to get one, but ... I'm not a fan of mobile gaming tbh.

[summer pagoda]

isn't asus kind slacking with the rog phone

[broken swift]

Dual battery phone are great, the temp is a lot cooler than single battery

[broken swift]

Well in term of performance it's this
Red Magic>=Black Shark> ROG

[summer pagoda]

they'll probably yoink some of the red's tech for their next release

[prisma venture]

Honestly what do ppl even need a gaming phone for?

What games could possibly be so demanding

I don't know any.

[broken swift]

Look cool, unique design, extra feature (triggers for many stuffs)

[prisma venture]

Well yeah but they also have....a ridiculous level of performance lol.

[proven sundial]

Yeah mine are 3840 mah and 2770 mah

[prisma venture]

My phone isn't even high end and I still can't think of a game who'd require more.

[broken swift]

Mine is divided evenly (4500mah/2). But now it's 3400mah/2

[broken swift]

Pc games, emulators

[prisma venture]

Like.... 8+4 GB ram is ridiculous.... 8 is the bare minimum to run modern PC games 😂😂

[broken swift]

My xperia 1 with 855 got thermal throttling extremely fast and run emulators really bad

[prisma venture]

Then I'd just use PC

[broken swift]

Well i could run gta 5 on this 8gb ram/870 phone

[sinful ruin]

can log in, even tho clearly there is internet

started as this msg, then loaded game, but attempt to claim daily (yvonne event) CRASHED
then next launch was glitched
after just a cannot long in

[prisma venture]

Have you?

[broken swift]

I have only run doom 2016 which is harder to run than gta 5

[sinful ruin]

now this

cant enter the game

[broken swift]

Try cloudflare warp

[prisma venture]

holy shittt....just how much do we get ...

[prisma venture]

cool xD

[proven sundial]

Best to repair the game via launcher

[sinful ruin]

or this error

[wheat turtle]

try vpn like cloudflare

[patent shoal]

at minimum
35 x 9

315 oroberyl

[prisma venture]

no i mean ... i already got 9 chests and theres still so much time until BP ends...

its crazy

to be fair, it isnt that much oroberyls in the end....but we get them for basically doing nothing x.x

[sinful ruin]

if game stops to just work
imma just uninstall

[static compass]

hi guys. so my friend's account got banned. reason stating account risk. so what is account risk exactly?

[toxic atlas]

Did you use mods?

[summer pagoda]

Another one

[static compass]

nope

[toxic atlas]

Then check out #contact-us and hope for a favorable answer

[rancid loom]

I think account risk pertains to a possible modification of an account

or possibly using an account for intentions not under the ToS or against it

[subtle escarp]

i join the game and get unreasonably high ping
my ping is usually around 40-60ms
the ping initially jumps up to 270 then 999
then goes to something like 970 and back to normal
this ping spike is happening like every 5 seconds
and its making it hard for me to play the game at all

[fading slate]

Hi, my controller (xbox one controller) have rumble. On pc, i don't usually see any rumble when opening this wheel, but last time i openned the game my controller rumble like haptic feedback on iphones. But after restarting the game rumble went back to normal (low intensity rumble). Even though i have my rumble setting to highest, Does anyone play on controller help me on this? I really like my controller whenerver i do anything not just when im in a fight

[subtle escarp]

i dont know if this is an ISP issue or some other issue (im using cloudflare warp)

[static compass]

he played on 2 accounts on the same device and both got banned for same reason. is account reroll / playing with multiple account not allowed in this game?

[rancid loom]

are you on wifi perhaps?

[subtle escarp]

nope, ethernet

[rancid loom]

either way your friend needs to explain this to #contact-us and hope for a favorable answer if you wanna dispute the ban

[rancid loom]

checked out speed test?

[subtle escarp]

yep, it says everything is fine

ping, speed, everything is supposed to be fine

[rancid loom]

so if you're on PC and using ethernet, what are your specs?

ping might also be affected due to your hardware capabilities

[subtle escarp]

more than good enough to run the game

ryzen 5 7600
rtx 3060 12 gigs
16 gigs of ram
more than enough space

this only happened now out of every other day i've been playing endfield

[rancid loom]

specs seem fine...and you are playing on the right server correct?

[subtle escarp]

yep

[rancid loom]

try checking game integrity and restart the game

[proven sundial]

Try replugging your controller fixes it for me

[subtle escarp]

alr let me do that

[rancid loom]

game bug for controllers huh

[proven sundial]

Depends on the controller really

Xinput or dinput

[fading slate]

No no it's usually only rumble a little, and only when im in a fight, only 1 time that i experienced that kind of vibration, but after relaunching the game it went back to normal low intensity vibration

[rancid loom]

I really think it's a controller bug from the game

[proven sundial]

So what exactly do you want from your controller in game ?

[toxic atlas]

It's a bug

[fading slate]

High intensive rumble (similar to when play game on iphones that have haptiv feedback)

[toxic atlas]

Sometimes the haptics are fine
Sometimes shit gets turned to 10%

[fading slate]

Or sth similar to ps5

[proven sundial]

Well replug fixes it for me

[subtle escarp]

do i perchance have to use 1.1.1.1 with warp?

[fossil crescent]

Can any1 help me stuck at releasing resource i have done the administration thingy what else do i need to do?

[fading slate]

It's been like that since, tried replug but no use, still that same low intensive

[proven sundial]

Using the new drivers or legacy drivers for the controller

[rancid loom]

you can try doing so if you're getting these lag spikes

[fading slate]

new driver

latest rn

tried all the settings but nothing

[rancid loom]

Go to this directory: C:\Program Files\GRYPHLINK\games\EndField Game\Endfield_Data\Persistent

Once you're in that directory look for the HGDownload folder and delete it (make sure that the game is closed before deleting it)

[proven sundial]

I see Well enfield is using legacy drivers for xbox one controllers

But not sure if they are still available ...

[fossil crescent]

I'll try it thanks!!!

[rancid loom]

@fossil crescent once done restart the game

[subtle escarp]

okay so using 1.1.1.1 with warp did help

thanks

[rancid loom]

Aight. Enjoy!

[proven sundial]

https://github.com/emoose/Xb2XInput

Here legacy drivers

No bloat on these

They work better than the broken updated drivers

[fading slate]

thank you!

[proven sundial]

Hopefully it resolves the issue

[fading slate]

it's actually not an issue
but like i think it's from the game but it need to be a compatible controller rather than a 3rd party ones to be able to use the full rumble support

[proven sundial]

I get what you mean

Regardless

Legacy drivers should work better

Try it out and let me know

[rancid loom]

Legacy drivers being left in the dust when they're supposed to be stable and solid each and every time a phased out device gets used

smh man

[proven sundial]

Ah well in this case

Modern problems

Require functional solutions

[fading slate]

Require old school solutions

[golden zenith]

someone wise desktop wallpaper once said...

[proven sundial]

If a banana is not yellow why eat it when it is green

[steel swift]

[proven sundial]

That aint no endfield issue 😂

[golden zenith]

simple solution, switch to linux

doesnt have issues other then pebcak error

[steel swift]

They using resources causing game to drop fps

[proven sundial]

Disable windows update for a bit then

[steel swift]

I used to use Ubuntu, that thing just breaks lmao

[golden zenith]

i feel like Ubuntu gotten worse

over the time

[proven sundial]

Linux mint for the basic user

[toxic atlas]

Ubuntu has been shit for quite a while now

Ever since canonical started pushing snaps
And dropped Unity for Gnome

[golden zenith]

ahhh......

[toxic atlas]

Mint is for the basic, non-technical user that mostly does office work and web browsing
Maybe at most some old games with Lutris

[fading slate]

Just use arch

There's nothing to worry about

[proven sundial]

Just use LFS

[toxic atlas]

Nah, go with something Fedora-based

[fading slate]

Cuz it have nothing

[toxic atlas]

My 6yr old arch install will beg to differ

[golden zenith]

LFS the true nothingness

[proven sundial]

That being said pop os is not too bad

For people who game

[golden zenith]

there also Bazzite as well

[toxic atlas]

If you only game, and do little stuff on the side, Bazzite all the way

[proven sundial]

But cachy os is my favorite now

Super snappy and responsive

[toxic atlas]

Gnome is just confusing for the usual windows user, and Cosmic is not ready

[fading slate]

Why is it looping lmao

it's been 10 mins

for the xbox driver

[proven sundial]

Hmm windows issue again

Should only take 2 min

[golden zenith]

im already confused by linux.... oh well, there always time learn

[proven sundial]

Want 140 pages of documentation for gentoo ?

[golden zenith]

not yet 😅

[proven sundial]

Well try the game again i'd say

[proven sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[fading slate]

but it doesn't detect

[proven sundial]

Ah damn

W11 ?

[fading slate]

yes

[proven sundial]

Try restarting your pc first

[steel swift]

Man I need more RAM

[proven sundial]

Use your biological ram

[toxic atlas]

Use Google Drive as a swapfile

[arctic depot]

I love this games mobile optimization but will the devs be able to pull of a better optimization than it already is?

[fading slate]

still not detect

[proven sundial]

I guess the only legacy driver that is supported now is the one on device manager in the properties from 2012

[fading slate]

damn

[proven sundial]

Welp

Worth a try though

[toxic atlas]

Porn spammer

[proven sundial]

Disgusting parasites

[fading slate]

damn why the game gave me a trial then just let me regret not trying it more

[toxic atlas]

Honestly impressive
Porn as custom emojis to make a full image

[fading slate]

that rumble's sooo good

[golden zenith]

depends on what optimization you looking for, it also depends on the devs as well

[proven sundial]

You are one of those vibration enjoyers 😂

[fading slate]

I paid for the whole controller 😭

It have HD rumble but can't use it

[proven sundial]

All good i understand

[agile tusk]

what controller are we talking abt

[proven sundial]

Xbox one controller

Original

But i know the new drivers are kaput

Half of the time they don't work

[toxic atlas]

The lack of rumble is a game bug, not driver bug

[agile tusk]

oh i have an xbox controller too but its the S variant i believe..? dont know too much about the One model

is the rumble not working?

[toxic atlas]

Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it doesn't

[proven sundial]

It's fixed for me with legacy drivers

[fading slate]

It just fully support the rumble for just 1 section, then return to normal low intensive combat only rumble after i relaunch the game

[agile tusk]

i hope they address that issue in 1.1 even if in a minor patch

[proven sundial]

Also other games have the rumble problem

Like darksiders

Remnant

All the same issue

New xbox one controller drivers don't work

[fading slate]

what if i launch through steam

would it work?

[proven sundial]

Have not tried honestly

[agile tusk]

you could try

[fading slate]

trying rn

[proven sundial]

Wait a minute

[fading slate]

Well

Not working

Man

[proven sundial]

Microsoft common controller for windows

Can you search those drivers on your controller

[fading slate]

usually mine's plug and play

let me try to check

[proven sundial]

You should be able to choose out of several drivers

[rancid loom]

wait

[fading slate]

Oh so the xbox wasn't supported
the one i experienced was a bug that thought my game was on PS5 and it's PS5's rumble

[rancid loom]

if you're playing on steam

doesn't the steam controller support clash with your windows??

[fading slate]

idk nothing worked

i'll just play like usual now

let me try to check if the game on real ps5 actually had this kind of rumble

[proven sundial]

Here these ones

[versed nimbus]

[toxic atlas]

Oh shit a 360 controller user
Based

[fading slate]

this?

Let me try

[proven sundial]

Yep

Shit needs to work

I am stubborn like that

[sterile sparrow]

someone said this channel freaky

[fading slate]

Same, bro the rumble's so goooooood

I need that kind of rumble

I have 4 rumble motors

the game only use 2 and only when in combat

[proven sundial]

Freaky want to do some dipping

[sterile sparrow]

🥀

[versed nimbus]

🥀

[rancid loom]

🥀

[proven sundial]

Anyway

Back to it

[rancid loom]

depends of the situation or the conversation

but anyways

[sterile sparrow]

lets take a look

[golden zenith]

we got a bunch of episodes here.... so take your time

[rancid loom]

https://tenor.com/view/endmin-endministrator-pengmin-shocked-surprised-gif-8860803684743085838

[proven sundial]

We may have to remove him from the channel with a real life intervention

[versed nimbus]

who?

[proven sundial]

Nobody in particular

[rancid loom]

[proven sundial]

@fading slate also how are your social credits ?

[fading slate]

Idk we dont have that in my country

[proven sundial]

Alright we good then fam

[rancid loom]

we don't have social credits here but peenoise credits

[proven sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/hana-yashiki-alma-chan-wants-to-be-a-family-alma-chan-wa-kazoku-ni-naritai-red-hair-anime-gif-2062407354144470908

[versed nimbus]

So Xomori when do you want to infect my pc with viruses 😩

[proven sundial]

Why would i do that

[versed nimbus]

[golden zenith]

the doctor here to lobotomize the KLAC

[proven sundial]

I'll try to have a look later

[rancid loom]

[versed nimbus]

Why is there all of the sudden a command prompt when I start my pc

Hmmm

[proven sundial]

Not me 😅

[versed nimbus]

[golden zenith]

microsoft?

[versed nimbus]

Its a joke

Time to suffer in osrs

[proven sundial]

I guess our other customer is enjoying the rumble now

[versed nimbus]

Freaky ahh

[rancid loom]

rumbling is good feedback tho

[sudden sinew]

happens to almost every PCs, bcz startup is so slow the shell got to open the prompt

[proven sundial]

My controller has 6 rumble motors

[versed nimbus]

It was a joke

[sudden sinew]

[rancid loom]

[sudden sinew]

tbh I hate windows bcz it's not windows-ing but more hacky-wacky than linux

[golden zenith]

you know, my brain was fried + tired yesterday... and ppl couldnt solve a soft lock issue when it took me 1 glanced to figured out the issue...

[sudden sinew]

speaking of brain

[golden zenith]

people should learn to read

[sudden sinew]

imma sleep

[sudden sinew]

yes

[proven sundial]

Too early ...

[versed nimbus]

As a non reader

Smhmyh

[sudden sinew]

they should learn understanding what they read

[golden zenith]

aright, gn 👋

[sudden sinew]

guess one day you'll get social issues and can't solve because you don't understand contexts /hj

[sudden sinew]

noon nap haha

work after sleep

[proven sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-head-pat-gute-nacht-thumbsuck-gif-10850164746753810324

[sudden sinew]

oh btw
https://youtube.com/shorts/c4KG9ZaciH8

[sudden sinew]

wanna be your daughter

[proven sundial]

[sudden sinew]

[versed nimbus]

To any knowers

See my torment

[proven sundial]

My daughters are my ultimate treasures you banana

[sudden sinew]

[proven sundial]

But i respect you and appreciate your being

You deserve all the good in the world

[proven sundial]

RS ?

[sudden sinew]

🥹

[versed nimbus]

osrs yeh

Being bottom 95% luck as usual

[proven sundial]

Get some sleep you need it 😂

[proven sundial]

I forgot about runescape honestly

Nowadays i play arc raiders and stalker 2

And the occasional Ultimate tower defense with my oldest daughter

[versed nimbus]

Usually I am bad at everything

but i've done this boss so much

That even someone like me can do it good enough now

[proven sundial]

Practice makes perfect

[versed nimbus]

Some people have talent

Some people learn fast

And others don't have both

[proven sundial]

I'll be back gotta buy another 250.000 euro server

[versed nimbus]

[proven sundial]

[rancid loom]

In short, life is unfair sometimes

[versed nimbus]

On average I should have 6 items from this boss

And I have worst item 3x

[proven sundial]

Welp

Shipment is delayed

For 6 weeks

[toxic atlas]

How about €774k drives?

[proven sundial]

It's just a compute server no thanks 😂

[dapper locust]

Why cant i login?

[proven sundial]

Hello which platform are you playing on ? And what have you tried so far

[dapper locust]

It works now, I think it was a connection error. Thank you

[proven sundial]

Alrighto have fun ❤️

[peak glen]

is there an way to fix my cursor being invisible in the game? it still funtionally works i just cant see it

[proven sundial]

Tried alt+enter

To refocus your cursor

[cloud basin]

Why does the game keeps crashing after 15 mins in my 1+ nord 5 (oxygenos 16.0.3)?

[proven sundial]

My oneplus open runs the game fine perhaps clear the cache on the app ?

[cloud basin]

mine used to run fine too

but today it crashed 2 times with exact same pattern

game runs fine for 1st 15 mins or so (phone temp = 42c)

then all of a sudden temp rises to 45 and game crashes

this never happened before

[proven sundial]

That's an odd issue

[cloud basin]

i even play without the back cover

and other games like genshin has no issues

[proven sundial]

Does genshin reach the same temp ?

[cloud basin]

genshin mantains the 42 degrees

so did ake earlier

but now it only does for 15 mins

after that it rises to 45 degrees

[proven sundial]

So phone fully restarted cache emptied ?

[cloud basin]

cache emptied didnt restart the phone yet

[proven sundial]

Best to do so and after try the game let me know how it goes

[storm mist]

@proven sundial do you know how to enable lossless scaling on steam deck?

[toxic atlas]

LSFG Decky plugin is the easiest way

[storm mist]

What’s that again?

[proven sundial]

https://decky.net/en-eu/blogs/news-en/lossless-scaling-steam-deck

Easier to follow it here

[storm mist]

Ok thanks

[proven sundial]

You're welcome take your time

[lament patrol]

Guys someone can help me ? i installed arknight in arch with heroic and dwproton, but is stuck at releasing resources (0%)

[storm mist]

I reinstalled Endfield using this guide https://youtu.be/zReK85XjIvg?si=MH0Kuw4tu88J2zuD

Hopefully it doesn’t break again

Deleted the EpicGames version

[lament patrol]

I'm really new in linux

[golden zenith]

im not familiar with linux... what have you tried so other linux user can help you

[proven sundial]

I assume the hgdownload is in the same place in linux

I never deleted it in cachyos

[proven sundial]

Try finding the folder structure

[lament patrol]

Not really so much, is a clear cachyos install with heroic and dwproton, i read around that ppl fix it by run as admin but i don't know how here. I tried changing compatibility in winecgf and that is

[lament patrol]

i will give a shot

[proven sundial]

Sure

Should work the same as windows

I run both

But linux works too well

[toxic atlas]

... Why heroic?

If you don't want to install it in Steam, use Faugus

[proven sundial]

Well advice for the next install eh

[lament patrol]

that was suggested 🙁

[proven sundial]

It's alright you atleast know for next time

[lament patrol]

tbh is running on an "experimental system", to say the least

[proven sundial]

Experimental system ?

[lament patrol]

jailbroken ps4 slim

[golden zenith]

[proven sundial]

Well if you make it work

That will be a miracle

[toxic atlas]

Lmao

Yeah use Faugus
And all low settings

You'll struggle a bit with the RAM
But it should work, spec-wise

[lament patrol]

deleted folder and at launch it dowlonad all again, only to sit again at 0%

would like to see it ingame

[proven sundial]

Time to try with faugus then

[versed nimbus]

Xomori keep reading things about Realtek Ethernet drivers giving issues on amd gpus, could this be something?

[lament patrol]

what change with faugus ?

[proven sundial]

That would be a dumb issue 😂

[toxic atlas]

You'll be using the proper windows version and not the broken Epic shit

[lament patrol]

where is supposed to put released resources ? i can copy it from my pc ?

[toxic atlas]

You can copy the game files from a working install onto the game prefix on the console, should be in \Program Files\GRYPHLINK\

[lament patrol]

wait, it did 0--100%

[versed nimbus]

I see it mentioned a lot tho they disable their lan port on their mobo or remove the driver and their issues are gone

[lament patrol]

now compiling shaders

[toxic atlas]

That sounds like some voodoo shit

[proven sundial]

I mean you can try it

But it is dumb honestly

[storm mist]

@toxic atlas what’s the recommended lossless scaling settings for Endfield?

[toxic atlas]

2x framegen
And that's about it

[storm mist]

2x framegen is?

[proven sundial]

Oh yeah he needs to put the frame blending to 70 percent

[toxic atlas]

Going over 2x will make it look mushy on fast movement

[storm mist]

Is that the flow scale?

[proven sundial]

Yup flow scale

[storm mist]

Or base fps cap?

Ok thanks

Do I turn on performance mode?

[toxic atlas]

Fps multiplier x2
Flow scale 70
Performance mode

[storm mist]

Present mode off?

Do I also leave base fps cap off?

[toxic atlas]

Yup

And set in-game fps to 30

Lsfg will double it

[storm mist]

I’m just restarting it now

But I’m ready for the best Endfield experience of my life

Do you guys play in low settings?

[modern yacht]

why is it that sometimes the voice direction is so weird like it didnt know whether to come from left or right is there some setting i'm missing

[toxic atlas]

For deck you can go all medium, and even set some to high

[proven sundial]

Must be the binaural sound rendering

[toxic atlas]

Play in low if you want power saving

[modern yacht]

this?

[proven sundial]

Uhuh

Turn it off

[tall acorn]

it's an issue on all computers

[toxic atlas]

Yeah
That's directional audio
Only works properly if you have a 5.1 setup or good headphones

[tall acorn]

crappy drivers causing stuttering in games

[modern yacht]

i'm using hyper x cloud 3

[proven sundial]

Only made for 2.1

[modern yacht]

[proven sundial]

True surround headphones are expensive

[toxic atlas]

Though they should support some form of spacial
You have to dig a bit through windows sound settings

[storm mist]

[modern yacht]

alright Thanks!

[storm mist]

Holy shit it’s smooth like butter

@toxic atlas @proven sundial thank you both

[versed nimbus]

Wish my game was butter

[storm mist]

🫂

[proven sundial]

You're welcome have fun

[modern yacht]

because the spatial thingy sound weird when in cutscene

normal when in the open world though

[proven sundial]

Makes sense i have wh 1000xm from sony they support 5.1

[modern yacht]

that's like 3-4 hyper x cloud 3 tf
but i guess i gotta buy new monitor first since i still stuck with 1080p with 5070ti 😭

anyway Thanks!

[proven sundial]

All good take care ❤️

It's actually crazy

Having 4 speakers in headphones

[lament patrol]

Ok, goes in game (Hd 100% resoltion scale, 30 fps, low, hight texture) on ship looks playable but hdd loading time kills it

[proven sundial]

So the hgdownload delete worked ?

[lament patrol]

yes

[proven sundial]

Kk have fun on your experimental hacked ps4

[lament patrol]

will not last long, it's just that i did jailbreak on my ps4 and wanted to try use it for samething, lately is just a paperweight poor thing

[toxic atlas]

Move the game prefix to a USB drive

[lament patrol]

an usb ssd ? would be faster ?

[proven sundial]

Hmm not sure with the ps4 usb connectors

[toxic atlas]

Though he could just replace the internal drive, it's 2.5" SATA

[proven sundial]

That aswell

[toxic atlas]

On random r/w for sure

[lament patrol]

ps4 is sata 2, i don't know if is even worth XD I should clone actual hdd on an ssd and try

[toxic atlas]

Game hammers random r/w

[proven sundial]

I mean it is a 5400 rpm hard drive

So an ssd will help a lot

Even on sata 2

[toxic atlas]

I'd say it's worth getting an older SSD
Even on SATA2

A 512 WD Blue SSD or whatever he can find

[proven sundial]

Anyway gtg

Gotta call for more shit

[lament patrol]

on a side note, there is a way to disable taa on non-nvidea gpu ?

[toxic atlas]

Nope...

Or at least not found yet

[lament patrol]

🙁

[sudden sinew]

ssd yes, hdd no, simple flash drive: good luck seeing your usb burn or loses storage

[sudden sinew]

no unfortunately

[proven sundial]

You could use RIS

But no idea if it will work properly on gcn 2.1

[hazy venture]

good evening wifeyy!!!!

[sudden sinew]

Hi husband!

[hazy venture]

:3

y'all are jealous fr fr UwU

[proven sundial]

I don't need to be jealous

I have a whole army with me

Of nerds

[hazy venture]

loll

can i get one of your daughters

adopt UwU

[sudden sinew]

also got an army here

[proven sundial]

Well my wife wants another daughter

[hazy venture]

(of what-)

[lean dome]

hey brother @proven sundial

[proven sundial]

But i don't have the money to support 5 daughters

[sudden sinew]

of nerds, weebs and haxx0rs

[toxic atlas]

how many fucking kids will you have bro you're 28

[sudden sinew]

[lean dome]

what

[toxic atlas]

y'all enjoyin' life over there huh

[hazy venture]

lmao

[proven sundial]

Welcome

[sudden sinew]

to #tech-support's daily basis

[hazy venture]

Welcome to tech support channel!

[proven sundial]

I think my wife is the equivalent of avywenna

Dangerous

[versed nimbus]

Australian?

[toxic atlas]

time to ask for that raise

[proven sundial]

No more children

I refuse

But i can use a 2nd wife

[toxic atlas]

don't you enjoy the process? :D

[proven sundial]

I want to play games brother

Not do banging every day

[sudden sinew]

go play needy girl overdose

[toxic atlas]

why not both

[toxic atlas]

i could use one wife

[proven sundial]

Then get one from dnd events

[versed nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[toxic atlas]

it's been like a literal decade since i last played DnD with a group

[proven sundial]

Welp

[hazy venture]

DnD?

[sudden sinew]

[proven sundial]

Dungeons and dragons

[hazy venture]

hmm

[proven sundial]

Idk brain is pooped today you'll find one

[swift torrent]

I want to ask, how can I fix this? I'm using a poco f6 device, can you please help me

(Note: I have reinstalled the game and my Google Play Store and Google Service are the latest version)

[proven sundial]

Ahhhh the typical

Ram management issue

[hazy venture]

go!! technicians!!

[golden zenith]

Xiaomi....

[swift torrent]

[proven sundial]

Need to dig into my archive

Brb

[toxic atlas]

what was it again? Core System Services as unrestricted in battery settings?

[proven sundial]

Yeah pretty much

[steel swift]

Poco

[tall acorn]

@fossil lantern #off-topic message

frequently suggested

[fossil lantern]

[proven sundial]

And then core system services

Xiaomi likes killing core components

[steel swift]

Xiaomi the G

[proven sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[golden zenith]

there a new amd driver, time to test

[toxic atlas]

chipset or GPU?

[proven sundial]

Linux windows?

Mesa 2.6.0.1

[golden zenith]

windows

[proven sundial]

Oh okay

[steel swift]

Yall really like driver

[toxic atlas]

we don't really care about drivers in the penguin land

[golden zenith]

26.2.2 WHQL GPU drivers, apparently there also new chipset drivers as well

[proven sundial]

I mean yeahhh

[toxic atlas]

chipset could be important
teapot said he was working on an update to deal with the game's syscall spam behavior and uncontrollable boosting

[proven sundial]

Damn WHQL drivers for once

[golden zenith]

their website stated it...

well, if Teapot need it can go inform him, could be good or bad

[toxic atlas]

i mean... he's probably the one that pushed for said update internally

[golden zenith]

as of now, gonna test out some games with the new drivers

[toxic atlas]

we need a Zen4 user update their shit and try the game

[proven sundial]

Which zen4 cpu ?

[toxic atlas]

doesn't matter, just zen4
7k-series ryzen

[proven sundial]

Hmm k

[mild timber]

What fps should I get on rx 6700xt on 1440p

[toxic atlas]

depends on CPU, but you should be getting over 60 on max settings

[proven sundial]

Guaranteed 75 fps

[mild timber]

Getting 90 rn is it good

[proven sundial]

Yeah 90 fps is totally fine

[mild timber]

I3 14100f

[proven sundial]

That i3 is doing work

[mild timber]

Fr

[proven sundial]

Just don't bottleneck it will ya

Balance the gpu and cpu load

As much as you can

[toxic atlas]

ain't no way a 6700xt is getting bottlenecked by a 14th gen

even if it's an i3

[proven sundial]

Open your task manager

I want to see

[mild timber]

80% CPU

99 gpu

[proven sundial]

Nicely balanced indeed

But close

[toxic atlas]

nah, he's fine

[golden zenith]

right... Drivers for RE: Requiem & Marathon
apparently Nvidia has New GPU drivers (595.59) [WHQL] as well

[mild timber]

[proven sundial]

Ah marathon

Actually runs really well

On amd gpu's

188 fps on 7900 xtx

At 1440p

[golden zenith]

huh....

My GPU Usage shot up...

on Endfield

[proven sundial]

That's good

[inland wing]

I haven't played arknights in awhile, but I'm trying to update and it kept saying that an exception has been encountered.

I changed my DNS when I experienced this previously and it stopped for awhile but now it's back and it won't go away. I'm on PS5 by the way.

[proven sundial]

Screenshot ?

[inland wing]

Hold on a second!

[toxic atlas]

try rebuilding the console's database

[inland wing]

No clue how to do that...

[toxic atlas]

turn off the console (full off)
hold the power button down 'till you hear it beep a second time
connect your controller via USB
then select the "clear cache and rebuild database" option

[inland wing]

Ooh, okay, that won't delete my data or log me out of my accounts?

[toxic atlas]

as long as you don't interrupt the process after starting it, it won't

[inland wing]

Alright! Thank you, ill try that.

[toxic atlas]

it might take in between 5 and 20 minutes
depending on how many games and apps you have installed

[inland wing]

That's alright

It took like 10 seconds, however the issue is still occurring hm

[versed nimbus]

amd driver?

[toxic atlas]

[inland wing]

It seems to now work actually, thank God 😭 just slow but

That's alright

As long as it actually updates

I probably have like 500mb to download though cause of my inactivity

[toxic atlas]

never heard of it taking that little
do you have the game installed on the separate SSD slot? or internal storage?

[inland wing]

Internal storage afaik, I'm not the most tech savvy so i haven't gotten any secondary storage for my ps5 or anything. It was just quick for some odd reason, im assuming it worked though since it yoinked my background

But the games working now, so I cant complain

[proven sundial]

Must be a premium ps5

[compact prawn]

anyone else having problem with new nvidia drivers (595.59) ? the game completely shits itself under vulkan, had to switch to dx11 and it runs normally

[versed nimbus]

sureeely the new driver fixes my issue

[toxic atlas]

you can temporarily downgrade to the last stable (591.86), 595.59 literally just released and people are reporting issues in multiple games with it

[golden zenith]

... are you f-ing kidding AMD....

hold on

[toxic atlas]

updated chipset as well or gpu-only?

[golden zenith]

both

game seems stable when i was running around Wuling

just missing the import/export profile for the UV/OC Tuning

okay, restart fixes it

[toxic atlas]

how's the CPU load?

still boosting to hell?

[golden zenith]

quite good, last i saw was 80% - 90%

now it around 50%

[toxic atlas]

try teleporting a bunch between wuling city and valley hub

also check temps & power on CPU, please

[tall acorn]

last stable?

591.86 drivers and other recent drivers seem to be causing issues for some

i believe the 591.86 drivers cause stuttering on only? 4090's and 5090's, but i'll have to fact check that again

could've also been 50 series related, but i'm pretty sure 40 series users were also experiencing issues

[golden zenith]

i should have record it... oh well guess i start now

going to use my profile see there any issues

[proven sundial]

Btw save your gpu profiles in a separate folder

Amd drivers tend to delete it 😅

[golden zenith]

it inside my nas backup

happen to me once

[proven sundial]

Fair enough

Time to test the golden sample 14900k

[versed nimbus]

Should I try the new driver

[proven sundial]

Let's see how a 9960x and 14900k compete

[versed nimbus]

or useless?

[proven sundial]

Can't do harm with trying

[toxic atlas]

@golden zenith is benching the new drivers rn, you can either wait for a bit for their results or just go for it

[hazy venture]

are y'all talking about fps? wowooo

turns out i have same fps on 1080p than on 1440p, funny

[proven sundial]

Cpu limited ?

[hazy venture]

9960x?

[hazy venture]

yes, it's a r5 7600

tho i can still get 120fps stable

[golden zenith]

im benching the game with my '9070xt', problem about Riko '9070xt' just suddenly dipped for weird reason

no harm in trying i suppose

[proven sundial]

Oh well not cpu limited then

[hazy venture]

it is

i assure you

cpu 8-9ms busy time gpu is like 5ms

gpu can do like 190fps cpu only like 120 ish

[proven sundial]

But you never unlocked your frame rate

[hazy venture]

you.. can't

[proven sundial]

You can

[hazy venture]

unless with frame gen

but it's cheating

[proven sundial]

It's not cheating

[hazy venture]

it just adds fake frames

idk how it works in endfield tbh

[proven sundial]

No frame gen

Just unlock the fps

[hazy venture]

against ToS then

[proven sundial]

Not against tos

[hazy venture]

how to unlock?

[versed nimbus]

can you unlock in genshin too?

[hazy venture]

i thought the max was 120 unless you enable frame gen

[proven sundial]

I'll dm you the method later

[hazy venture]

or use nvidia thingy but it's fake, it's just background fps

[toxic atlas]

you can force-unlock it

[hazy venture]

interesting

[toxic atlas]

but it technically falls under ToS so no tutorials

[hazy venture]

i thought any modification to the game results in breaking ToS.

[tall acorn]

still 120 even with framgen, requires external modification to unlock which is against TOS

[hazy venture]

it is false then?

[hazy venture]

no? frame time shows more when frame gen, tho idk if it's real frame or fake one

[tall acorn]

afaik it's unlockable in most gacha games, still against TOS though

[hazy venture]

maybe it's 120 real frame and added AI frames on top

but it's weird cuz why would my gpu get up to 100% when enabling dlss? weird huh

[proven sundial]

Just interpolation and vector scaling with frame gen

Not real frames

[hazy venture]

so i get 190 fake frames?

even tho my gpu works 100% 5.idk ms busy time?

[proven sundial]

Your base frame rate is real

[hazy venture]

okay?

[proven sundial]

Added frames are not

[hazy venture]

then why does gpu work full then?

[proven sundial]

Read above

[hazy venture]

does DLSS just adds 40 fake frames while using up 50% of gpu?

[tall acorn]

DLSS doesn't have anything to do with the frame generation you're thinking about

[hazy venture]

sorry i meant frame gen

i'm talking about frame gen all along

just dumb brain moment lol

[proven sundial]

#tech-support message

[tall acorn]

happens

[hazy venture]

can you explain please? (i'm not hating i'm just language barrier locked and dumb math brain)

[proven sundial]

It pretty much re-uses your real images generated by your gpu to create new ones along with math to correct it

[hazy venture]

pov you're getting cpu bottlenecked

[hazy venture]

where?

it slides those generated frames between the real ones?

[tall acorn]

FG's most basic explanation for nvidia is just it inserting a generated frame in between your real ones, so if you set 2x frame generation in this game at 120 fps cap, you'll end up having 60 real frames and 60 fake ones

some other frame generation methods can be different, but most of the popular ones function like this

[hazy venture]

fffff i can't even enable it

[tall acorn]

max out sharpening in-game

[hazy venture]

why?

[tall acorn]

you'll get blurry textures otherwise

[hazy venture]

then why does my gpu work to 100%

[hazy venture]

i find 33% sharpening the sweet spot (in nvidia control panel too)

[tall acorn]

50% with FG disabled and 100% with FG enabled?

[hazy venture]

yes.

[tall acorn]

nvidia control panel sharpening is different

[hazy venture]

oh ok

well uh, i'd like to show you but i can't since i can't enable FG 😅

it is cuz i don't have 40/50 series?

or just cuz driver issue or something else

[proven sundial]

There is no way it doubles gpu usage

[hazy venture]

uh.. well, on my laptop it does

well it's not 50->100 yk

i thought i could enable fg on my desktop but now i can't.. weird

[proven sundial]

Another dev patch ?

[tall acorn]

what's your card model?

[hazy venture]

i thought there was FG amd?

[hazy venture]

not a 40XX/50XX series

[tall acorn]

fluid motion frames

commonly enabled in the adrenaline app

[hazy venture]

i don't have amd gpu..?

[proven sundial]

Which one is it silly 😂

[hazy venture]

amd FG is just kinda always there even if you don't amd gpu

[hazy venture]

nvidia

30xx series

[proven sundial]

Exact one

[hazy venture]

bro

curious huh ✨

[proven sundial]

We aint messing around gang

[hazy venture]

i just remember that i could enable amd FG on my desktop in that game.. weird

[versed nimbus]

[tall acorn]

frame generation itself requires resources to run, which.. will naturally utilize more GPU resources

50%~ to 100% is kinda drastic though

[hazy venture]

but it cuts 1/2 of your real frame? i call that bullshit (not against you, i know you're right)

[tall acorn]

lowers the base framerate and returns with a higher overall framerate, consisting of half fake frames

example is you go from 90 stable real frames

to 60 real frames and 60 fake frames

[hazy venture]

then why fps gets higher than 120?

in graphs

yk

[tall acorn]

for a game that has the framerate locked to 120?

[hazy venture]

yes

it just uses 100% gpu and gets x more frames

[tall acorn]

nvidia's frame generation is known to misreport framerates

[proven sundial]

I'll let you explain

[hazy venture]

i'm talking about msi afterburner-

[proven sundial]

Don't want to interrupt

[hazy venture]

not nvidia bullshit graphs

[tall acorn]

there's only a few monitoring tools which accurately report the differences between real and not real frames

[hazy venture]

is msi afterburner one of them

[tall acorn]

don't think so

steam is a known one

[hazy venture]

you sure

how about hwinfo64?

[tall acorn]

honestly don't know 100%, but i'm pretty sure it won't tell the difference

[hazy venture]

with msi afterburner?

[tall acorn]

at least for nvidia

[hazy venture]

maybe you can test it and see for yourself

to know if it's correct

[tall acorn]

i haven't stumbled upon a verified test with MSI afterburner yet that differentiates between the fake frames and real frames generated by nvidia's FG implementations

[hazy venture]

mhm

how tf am i getting 160fps (99%) in the game

that's why RTSS exists ✨

nvm it doesn't fix it

[proven sundial]

All you have to remember is in general 2x framegen reduces base frame rate by about 13 percent

[hazy venture]

so 120x0.87(real frame)+120x1?(generated frame)

is the max fps we should get on endfield with FG 2x on?

[proven sundial]

I'll just give an example after your real frame rate gets reduces it's like 87 fps

Then that gets doubled

[hazy venture]

oh double your reduced frames

ok

so 120x0.87x2

[proven sundial]

Yup

[hazy venture]

that's..not.. 180 fps tho?

wait

it should be 208 fps max

then why do i get 180-190?

brb

[proven sundial]

Depends on your gpu

For me in general it's like that

On my 7900 xtx i lose 13 percent base frame rate

with Frame generation

Could be more with your gpu

[hazy venture]

I have msi 3080 ti gxt aka 3090 FE (or very close at least)

[versed nimbus]

Did Ignores come to a conclusion yet?

[proven sundial]

I suppose after fg your base frame rate is around 95

[hazy venture]

So it's higher?

What about rtx 4060

[proven sundial]

Rtx 4060 should be better at fg

Regardless

[hazy venture]

Then that makes no sense

Apart

If my 4060 cant output those generated frames

Imagine not being able to do that lol

[tall acorn]

what's the current topic inside nvidia FG?

[golden zenith]

ran the thing about 30+ mins, so far no crashes. GPU usage & the Watt is higher. CPU Usage is lower. checking my hwinfo

[tall acorn]

well

[golden zenith]

i should probably set up a decent benching system

[toxic atlas]

how's the cpu power consumption? wattage while playing

[golden zenith]

i didnt pay attention in the past... i can give the stat now only, give me a while...

[proven sundial]

I'm tired i will not explain optical flow accelerators

[tall acorn]

as mentioned earlier, FG requires resources to run which apparently maxes your GPU usage out at 100% for this game, so you might assume your base framerate is even lower than roughly 10%~, which is why you end up with 180 or so FPS instead of 208

i'll think up a poor explanation or something

[cloud basin]

How are you guys going over the capped frame rate?

[proven sundial]

We are not

[golden zenith]

i did saw about 70w when running, but here the detail for the CPU

[tall acorn]

@cloud basin

wouldn't recommend the latter, we're just discussing how nvidia's frame generation works

[cloud basin]

Still how are you guys getting 180 fps while mine only gets stuck at 120 even after fg

[toxic atlas]

so game still boosts, but power consumption is way better

[hazy venture]

LIARRR

Lmao

[proven sundial]

Well i am going above the fps cap

[versed nimbus]

Let me huff some copium

[proven sundial]

No lying there

[versed nimbus]

and update driver

[hazy venture]

Bro said "I'll dm you the method" and then later said well it breaks ToS so actually no

[proven sundial]

But my method does not break TOS

[hazy venture]

But you are?

[hazy venture]

Well you said before it actually does fall under ToS so you can't share the method

Or maybe language barrier

[proven sundial]

I am not modifying any game files

[golden zenith]

well im not too sure, since i didnt do a full benchmark i updated it (cause i didnt think i need to)... might need some other reference from other benchmark

[toxic atlas]

need to restart game to load up mangohud

[hazy venture]

Here?

Tho

[tall acorn]

GPU renders a frame -> prepares the next frame -> FG inserts and renders a frame using interpolation between the last frame and next frame -> circle back to the start and repeat

you'll reach a bit less than 2x the original framerate, consisting of half real and half fake interpolated frames

but if you bottleneck at 100% GPU utilization before reaching that rough framerate, you'll reach an even lesser theoretical framerate

[hazy venture]

Oh it's different person hm

Nvm y'all

Sorry

[versed nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[proven sundial]

Lol

[hazy venture]

Ok ok thank you (I understood it a while ago but I'm gonna pretend that I didn't)

[tall acorn]

yeah

[hazy venture]

Hmm

@proven sundial can you gimme method just cuz why not?

[tall acorn]

regardless though, you won't magically display a framerate higher than whatever the game is hard capped to, even if you have frame generation enabled

[hazy venture]

Oki

[proven sundial]

Yeah later not on my pc

[hazy venture]

Oki!

WAIT

Zencrox

I have

Question really hard one

Be prepared

Since FG uses gpu, what if your GPU is already utilized 100% in the first place? Assuming your fps are NOT capped

[tall acorn]

i would steer clear about discussing or sharing any topics that break TOS inside or outside the server, but it's up to you

as long as it isn't, then that's fine

[proven sundial]

Yeah it does not break TOS

So all good

[hazy venture]

Xomori said it doesn't, I trust him

[proven sundial]

I have been using it for 33 days

[tall acorn]

lowers base framerate more and substitutes in fake frames between whatever is left

[hazy venture]

So do you have more total fps?

[tall acorn]

giving you a higher total framerate consisting of both fake and real frames

frame generation will almost always give you a higher total framerate

[hazy venture]

Generated frame cost less GPU?

[tall acorn]

^

[hazy venture]

You sure?

[tall acorn]

that entire process is what causes your base framerate to lower

it's simplified of course though

[hazy venture]

But generated frames need some gpu resources

[proven sundial]

Of course it does

[hazy venture]

If they require less, then you get more total fps

But if they require more, you get less total fps

By logic

[golden zenith]

lol, what happened with fusion?

[tall acorn]

it requires more due to the process above

[hazy venture]

Nothing

[proven sundial]

Fusion is trying to get more brain folds

[tall acorn]

it does that for as long as it can until you can't get a higher base framerate

[hazy venture]

The process needs some ok but what about each generated frames?

[tall acorn]

and as a result, you have a new total fps with generated frames in between the real ones

[versed nimbus]

Driver did nothing

I had no hope but still hope

[hazy venture]

But those generated frame costs the same? Or less? On the gpu

[tall acorn]

more more as in more overall GPU usage

the generated frames utilize specialized hardware on your GPU alongside everything else to create the generated frame

[hazy venture]

That's not.. possible?

[tall acorn]

the generated frames don't just spawn out of thin air

[hazy venture]

But if they cost more then it's not possible to get more total fps

If gpu can make 100 fps total total and you enable FG, it cuts real frames, so lower utilization, but it uses more GPU because you said they do, so you have less than 100 fps since the generated frames cost more than real ones

[hazy venture]

So those generated frames don't use the same resources as the real ones?

[proven sundial]

Fusion generated frames cost less upon your base frame rates

[hazy venture]

Idk what that means

[proven sundial]

Look simple again we have 100 fps base frame rate bam we use fg it becomes for example 87 base frame rate then fake frames get inserted we then have 174 fps

Yess generates frames cost less resources

[hazy venture]

Zencrox said otherwise

[versed nimbus]

pc is doomed

[hazy venture]

Awww sadd

[tall acorn]

tbf asking the same questions in different ways, multiple times in a row, kinda muddies the entire discussion a bit and makes it difficult to understand what's exactly mentioned, but i'm always willing to clear things up and answer regardless

i'm a little lost atm myself, but i'll try to clear things up for the discussion

[hazy venture]

I'll reply to my true question wait

[tall acorn]

they utilize the same resources, and also dedicated hardware on the GPU to generate the fake frames in between the real ones

[hazy venture]

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Oh

[tall acorn]

they're not as intensive, but they do require resources to generate the frames

[hazy venture]

Generated frame uses less GPU then?

Than real one

[tall acorn]

i explained it up here

[tall acorn]

^

[tall acorn]

^

[tall acorn]

i'd also like to mention that it doesn't matter if the frames generated by any FG method increase latency, look smudged, or are just not "real"

same with any upsampling, downsampling, anti-aliasing, or any other technique that people prefer to use, considering they aren't spreading misinformation or are insisting that the technical differences, abilities, or ramifications are better or for worse than what they actually are, without allowing for a constructive discussion on any unsaid possibilities of their respective topics

as long as the brain of the respective user perceives a better image that satisfies them more for their needs, even if that said image doesn't truly exist or is worse, if someone prefers using any method or technology to change or improve image clarity, and they like it alongside it making them happier, it realistically doesn't matter if there's a different or better technique to be used, baring in mind you aren't just trying to prove a point

[hazy venture]

Hmm

So to make things clear

100 real frame costs more than 100frame with FG on capped at 100? So it's 87+13

[clever sandal]

This is triggering Yvonne's extra attack without it being solidified. Error???

[tall acorn]

#team-build

[tall acorn]

small example: @hazy venture

90 Base framerate -> 0 Base framerate [Frame Generation Enabled]

0 Base framerate -> Generates and renders a real frame -> Prepares the next frame -> Frame Generation interpolates a fake frame and slips in a fake frame before the next frame renders -> Loop back to the start and repeat indefinitely, until you can't anymore due to maximum GPU utilization which results in a new TOTAL framerate based off your new fake frames and real frames combined, resulting in a new total base framerate of real frames, combined with those new fake frames that you got, for a total higher FPS

you now probably went from 90 base framerate to only managing to generate 67 real frames and then inputting a fake frame after them, before your GPU maxed out giving you a total of 134 final frames

[pallid owl]

Then you'll loose some 'base' fps before the frame generation. Frame generation is quite GPU intensive. For example in cyberpunk I can get 60fps without frame gen, and then enabling 2x only gets me like 90-100fps. It's going from 60 to around 45-50fps, and then doubling.

I use a second GPU for just frame gen for this reason(With lossless scaling)

[tall acorn]

2x frame generation turns one real frame into two frames, consisting of one real and one fake, 3x is one real and two fake, 4x is one real and three fake frames before the next real frame is rendered