tech-support

[broken swift]

Why?

[short ridge]

Idk man

[broken swift]

Yep

[broken swift]

I always uninstall with ddu first before update to new driver

[short ridge]

What do i check/uncheck here

[broken swift]

Wait what?

You only need ddu for this tho

[short ridge]

I am following the tutorial, it said i need to download the drivers from nvclean install before going into safe modd

[slender mantle]

ddu is enough

[broken swift]

That tutorial is overkill man...

[broken swift]

@short ridge check the same boxes as this, uninstall and restart, then open the driver you just downloaded

And btw if you want to be safe, boot to safe mode first

[short ridge]

this files are already downloaded right?do i need to download them again?

[broken swift]

No that's not the driver file

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/

[short ridge]

oh k

[broken swift]

@short ridge choose your gpu correctly here and use game ready driver

[short ridge]

this SHOULD be the correct one

[broken swift]

Yep

Now choose game ready driver (or studio if you work with it)

[short ridge]

so i download this, boot into safe mode, use DDU to uninstall the previous drivers and then what

[broken swift]

Then restart to normal window

Double click this driver you just downloaded

Ok > custom install > tick clean install > install > done

@short ridge if you're unsure about anything here, send me a screenshot

[gloomy fern]

??

[broken swift]

A vpn tunnel service app for 1111 that fix 99% internet related issues

And it's safe

[gloomy fern]

Wdym

[gloomy fern]

Where do i download

[broken swift]

Phone: play/app store
Pc: search it, it's on cloudflare site

[short ridge]

@broken swift i need you to guide me through this, when i enable safe boot option in msconfig, when i restart it will automatically land me in safe boot right

And then i need to uncheck the safe boot option and restart the laptop

[broken swift]

Yes

[gloomy fern]

This?

[gloomy schooner]

Anyone here encountered the problem of pressing start game on the launcher then nothing happens ? (game doesn't open)
It used to work just fine like 2 hours ago

[broken swift]

Try launching the game with .exe file

In /game

[gloomy schooner]

ah shit... now i gotta figure out where epic game is hidding the game files

[short ridge]

You can click the box in epic games and check local files

3 dots next to the game

I think

[broken swift]

@short ridge so have you finished the ddu step?

[gloomy schooner]

manage maybe?

[short ridge]

No i am waiting for driver to finish installing

My internet is bad

Okay its finished

Ima boot into safe mode noe

[broken swift]

Ok

[short ridge]

Someone got hacked

[gloomy fern]

Now what

[short ridge]

Clean do not restart and clear shader cashe yes?

[broken swift]

Clean and restart, if it's still in safe mode then you need to manually exit safe mode

[broken swift]

And no need to clean shader cache (for now)

[short ridge]

Oh so i install the new drivers when i get back to windows?

Outside of safe boot?

[broken swift]

Yep

[short ridge]

I clicked it and its frozen

Needs a minute or?

[broken swift]

Let it run, don't touch it

It's doing it's job

[short ridge]

Okay it restarted

[golden zenith]

depends really, most of the stuttering issues come from people installed to the drive without knowing. otherwise reinstall gpu drivers(DDU if you have to) or re-installed the game. if those still don't work, need to test system parts

[fair summit]

the issue is worse than I initially anticipated

[bleak oxide]

me at work explaining how shit works in the factory:

[broken swift]

Lmao, so true

[short ridge]

I disconnect the wi fi before installing the drivers yes,

?

[broken swift]

Why?

[short ridge]

Idk to not let windows mess with it

I guess

[bleak oxide]

disconnect wifi - install

[broken swift]

The moment you enter window just run the driver file, you will be fine

Unless you wait for like 30m+, window won't mess with it

[golden zenith]

your pc okay @storm cairn ?

[short ridge]

What if i run the game without the gpu😂

Will it even run

[golden zenith]

it will use microsoft display driver

[broken swift]

At best it's a PowerPoint presentation at worse it wouldn't boot lol

[short ridge]

0.1 fps

[golden zenith]

yes, not recommended for everything other then to make sure you can display & troubleshoot

[short ridge]

This can NOT be good

[golden zenith]

MEM issue already

[broken swift]

Ram issue?

[golden zenith]

🙃

yea

[short ridge]

I checked the ram though

[golden zenith]

need to recheck again

[broken swift]

In 2026, it's going to be a big problem 🥀

[golden zenith]

after you download your driver, download & run OCCT Mem test

[short ridge]

Its stuck on 0% help😭

[steel swift]

It's gpu issue pretty sure

[broken swift]

Try holding the power button down

[golden zenith]

let it run for 10mins, if still not moving.... restart system

[steel swift]

Try force restart

*Force shutdown and start again

[short ridge]

Okay force shutdown worked

THANK GOD

Do i try to install the drivers again the same way

[golden zenith]

reinstall gpu driver now

[steel swift]

Whats your issue

[short ridge]

I was tryna install gpu drivers

💀

And it crashed

[broken swift]

Into window run driver file

[short ridge]

Do i need to select a specific folder

[broken swift]

No just ok

[steel swift]

Temp directory?

[broken swift]

Ok > custom install > tick clean install > install > done

[short ridge]

Oh i clicked express install last time...

[broken swift]

But express shouldn't cause that

[steel swift]

You dont have Nvidia app?

Are you overheating?

[short ridge]

Ts what happened with nvidia app

[steel swift]

if you download that from Nvidia web, just click install anyway

[short ridge]

Okay this is progressing

No crashes yet

[steel swift]

And are you OC'ing your gpu?

[broken swift]

There is a rule i made with myself: never install driver using Nvidia app/Gefore experience

[short ridge]

Nope

[gloomy fern]

Still keep getting it

[short ridge]

If anything i underclocked it using msi after burner

[golden zenith]

me: install nvidia app just to use it for to troubleshoot for other ppl

[steel swift]

Change dns to 1111 or 8888

[steel swift]

Why you need to UC that thing tho

[short ridge]

Task manager seems fine

[golden zenith]

no it not fine

gpu missing

[broken swift]

Did the driver finish installing???

[short ridge]

Not yet

Thats why i said fine

Its installing

[short ridge]

Cuz i deleted the old drivers

[golden zenith]

network also missing

[short ridge]

I am installing new ones atm

[short ridge]

I turned that off

[golden zenith]

wtf happened....

[short ridge]

To let the drivers install

[steel swift]

You seems to missing several stuff

[short ridge]

Guys you aint reading what i just said, i turned off the network to not let windows interfere with the installation, and my old drivers are deleted

I am installing new ones

So ofc the gpu wont show up

[gloomy fern]

I did but i keep getting it

[steel swift]

Even the INTEL GPU?

[short ridge]

Igpu doesnt shoe up on the task manager for me for some reason💀

But its there

Otherwise i wouldnt have a display atm

[golden zenith]

either it disabled or you dont have it

[short ridge]

How do i have the display rn then

Cuz my dgpu drivers are gone

[golden zenith]

need to recheck your history log

[steel swift]

Are your connection really stable?

[broken swift]

Without driver a gpu can still output images

But it's like 30hz

[toxic atlas]

You're on the Microsoft generic display driver

[steel swift]

After installation, you should check device manager to see

[limber flower]

@tall acorn I fixed the issue. At least for now. I limited the Endfield.exe process memory to use 10GB maximum using a program called Process Governor, and although the monitor reports attempts by the game to allocate 10240MB of memory every few seconds, the game currently runs fine, using only 2.4GB of memory on average. The 10240MB thing makes me think it's a typo and is supposed to say 1024MB/1GB, although, unless the game tries to limit the maximum memory to 10GB, I see no reason to use a zero anywhere in memory allocation programming.

[gloomy fern]

How do I know for sure

[golden zenith]

R5 7235HS does not have igpu

[gloomy fern]

Im on iphone

[steel swift]

It's a phone? you can try ping tools to check whether you get constant rto or not

I don't use iphone sadly, but appstore probably has similar app, just to check your ping status

[gloomy fern]

Whys playing endfield have to be so difficult

[gloomy fern]

Whats rto

[steel swift]

It's memory leak, the game will always ask for more, despite not really using it for anything

[steel swift]

It's when your device lost signal for awhile, you can also test this with watching some livestream and see if it's laggy or not

Otherwise, just your ISP being a jerk

[bleak oxide]

its probs their phone

unless they live in america, its prolly their ISP

[sudden sinew]

use warp might help

[broken swift]

Somehow warp didn't work for him

[short ridge]

i will just intall this and suffer with directx11 man

the laptop keeps crashing when i try to install the drivers i myself downloaded

[golden zenith]

no worries, can open event viewer

[sudden sinew]

recovery time?

dw about ToS, in case you're scared of ban

[short ridge]

and see what in there

[small ravine]

can some1 help me i keep getting this screen during tutorial, i have already checked file integrity 2 times

[golden zenith]

yea

hold on

[sudden sinew]

weird, wondering in which country he lives

[fair summit]

alt to show mouse, click everywhere on lower right screen

[steel swift]

What do you mean?

[sudden sinew]

ah sry should reply the other w/ warp

[golden zenith]

Event Viewer > Windows log > System
Afterward Filter Current log and use these setting in the picture

[sudden sinew]

bad internet and constant packet loss at school lmfao

[small ravine]

nvm it worked on my 6th restart of the game 👍

[sudden sinew]

when your jammer jams even E-Maritime traffics

[short ridge]

and after?

[golden zenith]

ss the event viewer, need to see got any error

[fair summit]

Letsgo

[short ridge]

do i need to open anything here

[sudden sinew]

btw you'd rather check packet ttl than rtos in case of networking first lmfao

[golden zenith]

okay, i slowly guide
Windows log > System

[short ridge]

yes i filtered that already

[steel swift]

They can't even check it tho, if it's PC, I would suggest to just ping google via terminal

[sudden sinew]

bcz packet died means not even rtos can get through

[golden zenith]

your sceen should look like this, logs can be empty as well

[sudden sinew]

speedtest can iirc

[broken swift]

That's definitely an issue...

BIG issue

[golden zenith]

can, you can close it now

[golden zenith]

is windows not letting download driver?

[short ridge]

idk man, the laptop crashes, it doesnt give the memmory managment issue anymore though, it was smth else, but it restarted faster than i could read it

i will just download the drivers my windows reccomends and play with directx11

[steel swift]

Is it bsod

[short ridge]

and wait till the devs fix memory leak issues

[steel swift]

You can check the error with software like WinDbg

[short ridge]

no it had a big message

[golden zenith]

if that the case, check reliability mon again, the error will be there

[short ridge]

it contained smth like "NOT_EQUAL"

[broken swift]

Actually there might be a problem with your laptop tbh

[golden zenith]

IRQL Not Less Or Equal?

[short ridge]

yea

[golden zenith]

RAM issue

[golden zenith]

you got warrenty, USE IT

[short ridge]

i tested ram with WMD, it showed no errors

[toxic atlas]

That's a laptop, right?

[golden zenith]

yes

[short ridge]

ye

[toxic atlas]

Test with MemTest86+ if you want to be sure

[steel swift]

You dont use WMD, you use Memtest with bootable usb for better result

[golden zenith]

^^^

[steel swift]

It'll take the whole day tho

[golden zenith]

Run OCCT Mem Or Memtest86 (the best)

[toxic atlas]

For a 2-pass? Shouldn't take that long (unless he has a fuck ton of ram)

[short ridge]

i have 16 gigs LOL

[steel swift]

Dunno, last time it took me more than 5 hours to test 20GB

[golden zenith]

it the one he reseated the RAM, just 2 sticks

[steel swift]

You can also, clean your ram (Physically)

[short ridge]

i am gonna download this first before running any tests

[short ridge]

i already opened up my laptop and reseated the ram

[toxic atlas]

It took me a week for 128, thought I was going crazy then I discovered the AM4 XMP issue

[short ridge]

even switvhed the places beetween 2

[short ridge]

A WEEK?

[golden zenith]

he using 128GB

[toxic atlas]

At base DDR4 speed, 2133MT

[golden zenith]

ofc it that long

[golden zenith]

your can be done in like 4hrs

[steel swift]

I trashed my 16GB stick after testing lol

[broken swift]

my dad's 3600c18 kit took about 2-3 hours to do memtest so yours could be faster

[steel swift]

And now I'm looking to buy a new one, but the price keep rising smh

[toxic atlas]

Then I discovered XMP fucks over the memory controller auto-voltage and it just stays at 1.2v
Had to manually OC the DRAM to 1.35v, only then it started doing the auto-voltage math properly

[broken swift]

May i ask what ram brand is that? I will avoid them in the future

[toxic atlas]

Not a ram issue. It's a Zen3 issue on some motherboards

[steel swift]

Teamgroup

[broken swift]

Oh i see

[gloomy fern]

What other warp

[broken swift]

I thought team group make good ram?

[golden zenith]

no

[toxic atlas]

Ram brand really doesn't matter, only the chip manufacturer and latency rating

[golden zenith]

it cheap for a reason, but it decent enough

[broken swift]

Yea agree

[toxic atlas]

Okay me back to the void for now
Ping if my assistance is needed

[golden zenith]

sure

[broken swift]

Well still better than kingston . It's dirt cheap and cause issue like 60% of the time lol

[steel swift]

It's broken right after warranty time ends

[golden zenith]

as long as RAM dont give issue, im okay

[toxic atlas]

My ram is pushing 6yrs now and it's still going strong

[short ridge]

so i should run this first when the drivers are done downloading right

[golden zenith]

Yes

[steel swift]

I need new ram

[broken swift]

Mine is almost 5 years and still run like it was new of the box

[short ridge]

fine i will play on the phone for now😔

[slender mantle]

you need an usb drive to use memtest86 btw

[short ridge]

oh...

[slender mantle]

use tm5 or occt if you dont have usb stick

[steel swift]

If any of you work for ram manufacture, pls lower the price smh

[short ridge]

i dont have a usb

[short ridge]

what are those

[golden zenith]

if that the case OCCT

[broken swift]

China just make ram and it's 1/4-1/3 the price of ss/skhynix

[slender mantle]

this, with mono skin

[short ridge]

so i gotta install some more shit

[gloomy fern]

Is there anyway to fix this

[steel swift]

Nah, the seller also marking up the price for CN ram lol

[slender mantle]

true

[broken swift]

Well the only way to get cheap ram now is to order directly from china lol

[steel swift]

WEaboo memory testing

That reminds me, I have access to Chinese marketplace

[golden zenith]

if you want my opinion, you do not need MSI AB, CPU-Z, NVCleanstall, And GPU-Z for a normal experience. Mostly monitoring tools, Debloating Stuff & Overclocking/Undervolting Tools are all to the extreme System users

[steel swift]

Debloat your WIndows!

Also disable some useless services

[short ridge]

finnally

[golden zenith]

time for OCCT

[arctic night]

do devs know about an issue people apparently have with offline factory production calculations

[short ridge]

can you give me a link to download it?

[golden zenith]

https://www.ocbase.com/download

[short ridge]

i used chris titus win utility but idk what to do after that

[elfin willow]

is "error code: -104" a storage space error or...?

[toxic atlas]

When do you get it? At the end of the download in launcher?

[steel swift]

I manually disable some services via regedit

[toxic atlas]

Group Registry is more solid if you have a Pro/Ent edition of Windows

[steel swift]

Yeah I dont

[short ridge]

i have a win home edition

[broken swift]

With MAS you will

[toxic atlas]

... So you both stuck to windows
And don't even pirate it?

[toxic atlas]

Massgrave my beloved

[short ridge]

i did activate windows using scripts

nothing beyond that

[steel swift]

I use KMS tool if that helps

[broken swift]

Why don't you change to pro?

[toxic atlas]

Oh for fucks sake

<@&956153874383781928>

[broken swift]

Kms is outdated tbh

[short ridge]

do i need to?

[toxic atlas]

Nevermind they nuked themselves in #do-not-post-or-get-beaned chat o guess

[elfin willow]

halfway through updating the launcher.

[toxic atlas]

So you pirated Win Home edition

[broken swift]

There are many benefits from pro

But wait doesn't laptops come with home activation?

[steel swift]

it's still windows tho

[short ridge]

no i had to install windows myself, i borrowed a friends usb

[toxic atlas]

Also yeah KMS is outdated, even for server activation
HWID & KMS38 are the best now

[steel swift]

I haven't crack anything for awhile tbh

[broken swift]

But why home? You could have gone with pro or ltsc tho

[gloomy fern]

Is this fixable

I used 2 vpns already

[slender mantle]

yup yup

[short ridge]

idk, i just chose the basic version, i thought pro was for something else, like when they have OS for servers specifically

[halcyon warren]

I got crash by this 2 errors, my specs is good, don't know why

[short ridge]

okay what do i do here

[toxic atlas]

We just some nerds discussing windows piracy at this point in the tech-support chat lmao

We need a random-tech-talk chat

[steel swift]

Should I save for more RAM or just buy SSD?

[sudden sinew]

you use 1.1.1.1 atm, use wrap mode

[broken swift]

If you have 16gb ram then go fo ssd

[toxic atlas]

How much ram you've got rn again?

[steel swift]

12

[slender mantle]

settings > skin > mono

[steel swift]

The 16gb stick broke

[toxic atlas]

Get 2nd hand / refurbished sticks

[golden zenith]

select Memory, use the extreme set. 1 RAM stick = 30min

[short ridge]

and what does that change exactly😂

[golden zenith]

you just get a waifu there

[broken swift]

Has waifu = perform better 🗿

[slender mantle]

yup yup

[golden zenith]

since you have 2 RAMs stick, run 1h.
Memory set to 80%

Max can help me confirm this

[short ridge]

i keep the instruction set on auto?

[broken swift]

And always choose waifu skins for all of these tools 🗿 @short ridge

[golden zenith]

yes

[gloomy fern]

I used warp

[short ridge]

ok so i am good to go now

[slender mantle]

also this

[golden zenith]

looks good, start test

[broken swift]

Niceeee

[steel swift]

Dunno if I want to risk that tbh

[gloomy fern]

Is this a problem with my phone or the game

[short ridge]

goddamn cpu jumped to 100% utilization

[toxic atlas]

With your ISP (internet provider)

[golden zenith]

it normal, we running test

[short ridge]

No errors yet

😂

[golden zenith]

any error, take photo & throw back to the company and get it replaced

[steel swift]

Shizuku ftw

[toxic atlas]

No refurbished shops around/online? You can always return them if you find issues with the sticks

[steel swift]

That's the thing, I'm too lazy to return stuff lmao

[slender mantle]

cool

choose these to see decimal number btw

[toxic atlas]

Fair enough, returns can be either easy or a pain

[sudden sinew]

not work?

[swift flame]

Hey so, I happened to reinstall Endfield to the same PC, and now I’m forever stuck on releasing resources. Like yesterday everything worked OK, and now the game simply won’t start

Cabled Windows SSD

Has anyone figured out the solutions?

[golden zenith]

can send a ss of file explorer, i want to see the drives free space amount

[toxic atlas]

More windows file access permission shenanigans

[toxic atlas]

#tech-support message

[gloomy fern]

If it helps im iphone12

[swift flame]

Sorry, just went away from a keyboard

C: is 20Gb and D: is 200
System is ran on C, and Endfield is on D

[junior prawn]

getting this error every time i try to login is annoying, devs doesnt want to help me with the issue, just telling me "just restart your pc and it will be fixed" but it doesnt fix anything, only thing that temporarily fixes it is restarting my router, then i can login and as long as i stay logged in, i can be on forever, its just the login that has connection issues

[steel swift]

Try warp?

[toxic atlas]

ISP issue, see if either WARP or a VPN fixes it
(and no, VPNs are not inherently against ToS)

[steel swift]

I mean it's their data cannot go through your router

[golden zenith]

try do what Max said to you, also clean up your C: drive. game might use temp dir to extract the game

[junior prawn]

warp?

[toxic atlas]

Restarting router gives another dynamic IP, which changes routes
But ISP ends up prioritizing bad routes instead later on anyway

You will see the same behavior if you plugged the WAN cable out & back into the router

[steel swift]

Ohh

[torn yew]

hi does anyone understand why i cannot put my aic at the very corner of my main base this is quite urgent and i rlly need help

[steel swift]

I just know about the isp thingy lol

[patent shoal]

about the bad route ?

its open secret tho

[golden zenith]

a lot of shit will go on behind the internet tbh

[patent shoal]

good route cost much money, so they will prioritize it for the dedicated / higher paying user

[golden zenith]

there QoS, Bufferbloats, Buffer size...

[past mason]

https://haute42.com/haute-pad-s-series/ can Endfield work with this contrller? its programmable

[steel swift]

I mean I used to restart connection once I feel laggy, I just dont know if that's intended

[golden zenith]

depend on ISP

[patent shoal]

isnt bufferbloat "usually" happen on client routers

not in the isp ones (coz if it happen on isp ones, that isp is bad bad)

[toxic atlas]

Good ol' BGP, just fuck my shit up

[golden zenith]

yes, but does ppl know about it

[patent shoal]

ah, sadly no

i bet if they test it on waveform bufferbloat tester, they averaging in C or B

[steel swift]

Probably that's why I got bad ping in valo, despite living near their server lol

[patent shoal]

uhh, check bufferbloat then

if u live near the server

the route "shouldnt" that bad

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

[golden zenith]

i used a 3rd party app to optimize that shit while reading what all those crap does

[patent shoal]

iirc, bufferbloat is caused by cheap isp provided router

[golden zenith]

now my ping is this

[broken swift]

Bro got nasa internet lol

[steel swift]

Yeah, I send a protest to them and I got better ping shortly after

[patent shoal]

is this the app that route the gaming trafic ?

like exit lag ?

and smth similar ?

[golden zenith]

nope, pure optimize

regedit

[patent shoal]

[torn yew]

anyone?

[steel swift]

regedit fan

[patent shoal]

check if u've dropped any item in there

like in the ground

[broken swift]

How did you optimize it with regedit?

[patent shoal]

and tbh, that topic is fit more in #aic-factory

[storm cairn]

mine good whyd u ask?

[golden zenith]

could be the AIC I/O not allowing you to put there

[torn yew]

its within boundaries

what may be the cause of it

[golden zenith]

after the win update you gone tbh

[torn yew]

oh

i see

[steel swift]

Nah, I put mine on the corner and still works

[broken swift]

Drop items like Aresky said

[torn yew]

OKKK

found the problems

problem

[golden zenith]

ah okay, not familar with this

[torn yew]

thanks

[storm cairn]

ohhh im traveling back to my hometown

[patent shoal]

soo the problem caused by blud littering

aight

[golden zenith]

ahh, okay. sorry for disturbing

[torn yew]

💀

[storm cairn]

its lunar new year yk

[golden zenith]

CNY soon

[patent shoal]

threw ur trash outside the AIC imo

[storm cairn]

all good

[broken swift]

So the game teach us not to litter 🤣

[patent shoal]

or use the delete item function

[patent shoal]

[golden zenith]

thought Windows got your PC for good

[golden zenith]

https://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812

they have a app if you want

very useful

[broken swift]

Nice thanks bro

[golden zenith]

cant do anything about bufferbloat, that your router setting at this point

[patent shoal]

if his router is good one, set up a fq codel

or any advanced AQM

im using this on my OPNSense router

https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/shaper_bufferbloat.html

[broken swift]

My router isn't good, it's an entry level tplink with 100/100 limit for ethernet

[patent shoal]

[broken swift]

And most of settings aren't even available on it

[patent shoal]

the usual isp provided router ?

[junior prawn]

you guys have been just as helpful as the devs with this connection issue for me... in other words... worthless

[broken swift]

Nah it's not from isp but i have had it for 8+ years

[patent shoal]

but, we cant blame the dev about connection issue if its not a server issue

coz usually its isp issue

or device issue

wrong configuration or smth

[patent shoal]

thats....... old

[toxic atlas]

We're players, just like you
We volunteer our time here, can't fix what's on the devs or on your internet provider

[broken swift]

Gotta replace it in the future

[patent shoal]

get the 3 in one ones

well in consumer product, router is usually 3 in 1

router, switch, and wifi

[toxic atlas]

Get a Turris Omnia NG

[toxic atlas]

Mine's also 10yrs old now, released 12yrs ago

[patent shoal]

[broken swift]

That cost more than my gpu

[toxic atlas]

But it's still pushing 600mbps over WiFi 5 like a boss

[patent shoal]

or, if u nerdy enough, and have old mini pc / pc laying around and dont care with electricity bills, u can use OPNSense

and build ur own router solution

[marble blade]

if anyone is playing on steamdeck and the game suddenly stopped working you just need to change the directory again to the new folder the game failed to launched because "game.exe" was moved to 1.1.0

[patent shoal]

https://opnsense.org/

[toxic atlas]

Select Endfield.exe from games, not Game.exe

[storm cairn]

thats like a whole year of updates 🥀

[broken swift]

I'm aiming for Asus RT-AX52 AX1800 AiMesh

[marble blade]

i had to update so i need the launcher to start as well

[junior prawn]

it is a developer issue since its the only game that has this issue but they havent wanted to help me, since it seems to be very specific to my network condition... huawei 4g modem/router provided by my isp (telenor), default router settings except my dad changed admin password so i cant go into the router settings and change anything

[broken swift]

That seems interesting

[toxic atlas]

Either select the launcher to start
Or the game executable itself (endfield.exe)

[broken swift]

But i think electric bill is a problem, my rig alone already use alot

[patent shoal]

it might be game issue then, send them (support) an email or get a support ticket i suppose ?

[versed nimbus]

I have a memory issue?

[toxic atlas]

Also it's currently recommended you switch to the beta steamOS branch, Valve added in NTsync (brings a lot more stability and less game crashing)

[patent shoal]

what is NTsync and Fsync that I started to see often about linux gaming for this game

[junior prawn]

tried it and devs just tell me to restart my pc and the issue will be fixed, they dont want to deal with it it seems

[patent shoal]

welp

[golden zenith]

you can get into the game by restarting?

[short ridge]

Np errors yet

[junior prawn]

only if i use my phone as a modem or restart my 4g modem

[patent shoal]

but again, is using vpn fix ur issue ?, if it fixed it then its definitely isp issue

[patent shoal]

ahhh

[golden zenith]

[short ridge]

What

[toxic atlas]

Fsync is the old way of doing syscall synchronization (in userland) for wine/proton apps
NTsync is the new way, basically a bit of the windows syscall timings implemented straight into the Linux core as a separate driver

[golden zenith]

could be your pc network setting

[junior prawn]

phones isp is the exact same as my 4g modem, they are on the same data plan, just that the modem is 4g only, my phone interchangeably uses 4g and 5g

[patent shoal]

is this happen because linux gaming is new thing ?

i mean

[broken swift]

That's the first time you said normal so it's definitely is a surprise

[patent shoal]

or because NTsync is superior

[golden zenith]

No problem at all?

[patent shoal]

ex: the dev is not experienced enough to utilize the Fsync in userland

[short ridge]

I am telling you i checked the ram🙏they aint faulty, but we will see theres 14 minutes left

Theres not a single error detected yet

[toxic atlas]

It's not a dev issue, it's just the way wine/proton used to "emulate" some windows component synchronization

[patent shoal]

try using 4g only on ur phone ?, bcoz iirc mobile network has a thing called TTL

[toxic atlas]

Ntsync is like the new gen of it, overall way more stable and better

[broken swift]

Let's hope it stay that way, ram are like gold these day

[patent shoal]

yeah, i mean the wine / proton side, not game dev side

[patent shoal]

ah

[short ridge]

Well i do have a warranty if they are bad, i will get it replaced free of charge

But i have to have a actually faulty ram for that

[patent shoal]

and usually its set at TTL 1 on phone to prevent hotspot to work properly

usual company things

bad things

https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/cdn/glossary/time-to-live-ttl/

[golden zenith]

oh wait, you still running

[short ridge]

13 minutes left

[golden zenith]

ahh, i thought you done

[golden zenith]

and you cant access the router... zzzz

[golden zenith]

what your router spec

[toxic atlas]

I hate mobile-connected access points
Only use that shit as a backup for wired

[junior prawn]

i dont remeber exact model but its a 6 year old huawei 4g modem with wifi and 4x 1000g ethernet ports

[patent shoal]

yeah

[golden zenith]

6 yr olds

[patent shoal]

bcoz it has different things than the usual network configuration

company usually add bunch of limitation on mobile data plans

[golden zenith]

what your speed latency.

[patent shoal]

bcoz its cheaper

[junior prawn]

to the endfield servers? about 40ms

[toxic atlas]

2019-2020

[patent shoal]

and they usually set this, so u cant share the mobile data plan to others via hotspot

[broken swift]

Hey, that's still a lot newer than mine

[golden zenith]

can run speedtest.net and tell me the stat

[patent shoal]

dont forget to blur ur public ip @junior prawn

[patent shoal]

oooh 1 gig up and down connection

[golden zenith]

DO NOT POST PHOTO

[patent shoal]

[toxic atlas]

Nah they can just restart router

[patent shoal]

yeah but well

[steel swift]

It's their router I believe

[patent shoal]

I bet its because the mobile data plan thing

[steel swift]

They can play the game using mobile data, but they can't with router

[patent shoal]

iirc he said it dont have issue if he using the 4g modem

but the issue appear when he started hotspot from his phone

[patent shoal]

this

[steel swift]

right?

[patent shoal]

and this

[junior prawn]

right now when im using my phone as modem (and disabled 5g)

[patent shoal]

ahh, now I understand ur message

[golden zenith]

download lat: 255

no wonder

[steel swift]

Send tickets to your ISP

[junior prawn]

as i said, that is with my phone as modem so its not optimal

[golden zenith]

wifi or lan?

discord is acting up on my side

[junior prawn]

since its my phone as a hotspot/modem, its over wifi

[golden zenith]

my message might get delay

[steel swift]

200+ is not normal, this is hotspot

[toxic atlas]

Same here, Europe?

[golden zenith]

Asia

[toxic atlas]

Guess global issues

[golden zenith]

i think it stablizing now

restart discord if you have to

nope i spoke too soon

[steel swift]

I just fc'd dc and reopened it

[toxic atlas]

I killed, cleared cache, then reopened

Seems fine now

[steel swift]

They've been like this for the past few days

[toxic atlas]

Cloudflare became too big for their own good

[steel swift]

cool

Now you can proceed

[junior prawn]

i could have had lower base latency if my connection wasnt routed through stockholm or malmö or sometimes even sundsvall and instead remained routed through gothenburg elsewhere.... when sites try to track my location through my ip or such, its never my actual home city because of that rerouting my isp does

[short ridge]

so if my ram isnt faulty why the fuck am i getting memmory managment issues

[steel swift]

Your ram could be dirty

A very small dirt on the golden part can mess up shit

[toxic atlas]

Some cursed ass configuration I guess

Seen some shit before that literally couldn't be explained nor reproduced

[short ridge]

i told you already i opened my laptop, took the ram sticks out and swapped their places, checking the golden pins in process, there was not a single speck of dust there

[short ridge]

then wtf do i do

[broken swift]

Ask window

[broken swift]

If you have a tech friend with spare laptop ram you can try swap it.

[golden zenith]

hold on, need to afk, irl stuff calling me

[short ridge]

non with a ddr5 ram

[junior prawn]

if its like the blue screen issues i had a bit over a month ago, it was because my cpu didnt get enough volts after a bios update

[short ridge]

their laptops are old as hell, and i obv cant swap out their pc ram sticks

[short ridge]

yes my game when i run on directx11 crashes and gives out memory managment crash message

[hasty flame]

faulty drivers often cause memory violation, doesnt have to be hardware

[golden zenith]

ddr5 very not stable tbh

[short ridge]

i just reinstalled the drivers

[hasty flame]

all of them...?

i dont think thats even possible

[short ridge]

i mean gpu drivers

theres no way motherboard drivers are at fault here

[hasty flame]

it could be any driver tho, even something as basic as a keyboard or mouse driver, I would check the event viewer for more details, although you wont always find something

[steel swift]

Did you clean the golden part properly? when I said tiny, it's not visible to human eye

[golden zenith]

run CPU+RAM for another hour, if no error, can't help you unless you can memtest86

[short ridge]

event viewer has nothing in there, in reliability history i only have platform.exe stopped working and windows crashes

[golden zenith]

can be CPU as well

BUT very less likely

[broken swift]

Well i think he should let the laptop run for at least 6 hours

[steel swift]

Doubt

[broken swift]

Highly doubt the ram

[steel swift]

I got memory error and it's solved only by either cleaning it, or replacing it

[short ridge]

if it was dirty the occt would give errors wouldnt it

[broken swift]

@short ridge oh i know, try swapping the 2 sticks

[short ridge]

already did that LOL

yesterday

[broken swift]

remove 1 and do single stick test?

[steel swift]

^

[golden zenith]

did you switch to CPU+RAM?

[short ridge]

whats the point? the occt was using 14 gigs of ram meaning both rams were at play

[steel swift]

Also I never get error from memtest, but regardless it solved by changing the ram

[short ridge]

what settings do i toggle here

[golden zenith]

Mode set to Extreme
then start

[short ridge]

welp here we go

[toxic atlas]

Shit's haunted

[golden zenith]

Welcome to Techfield

[short ridge]

or the game targets my hardware specifically

[golden zenith]

Technically can happen...

Gotten 1 case here

[broken swift]

Well... Might

[steel swift]

It's a sign... to replace your ram

[junior prawn]

with 5g turned on on my phone as modem

[steel swift]

100 still bad

It's like distance from SG to India

[golden zenith]

try & see if you can go in with that

[short ridge]

dude, they will replace the ram with the same exact brand

if the ram aint faulty then its no use

[junior prawn]

did you even read my first messages here? the issue i had only appeared when using my "stationary" huawei 4g modem, never with my phone

[short ridge]

and i am NOT buying ram in this economy

[golden zenith]

ah fk, i forgot it 4g

[steel swift]

Run it 1 stick by 1 stick, and see which one gave you bsod

[steel swift]

us

waiting for cheap ram from ai project

[golden zenith]

if you want there a 3rd party app you can use to optimize your network/wifi card

but only if you okay to download

[broken swift]

Or just buy the new ram China just made

[steel swift]

Ppl gonna mark up that thing

I need more ram for coding too

[short ridge]

1.25V is the standart right

[junior prawn]

1.25v for what?

[broken swift]

My ram run at 1,4v and my cpu at 1.3v. So i think that's a bit low

[short ridge]

cpu

[broken swift]

Oh that's normal

[junior prawn]

depends on the cpu, for my cpu its a bit high

[broken swift]

1.2-1.4 is acceptable

[broken swift]

For mine it's quite low lol

[autumn notch]

Hello, I'm having an issue. I was playing during a quest and I opened the quest menu just before a dialogue scene started and now I can't touch anywhere on my screen

[junior prawn]

1.15v is default voltage for my cpu, i run it at 1.26v (yes, 1.26, not 1.25) because otherwise i cant run it at 4.4ghz, only at less than 4ghz

[steel swift]

restart

[rotund bane]

Hi guys, am I doing this right? The idea is for wuling battery to be backup when I run out of HC

[autumn notch]

I did, still doesn't work

[rotund bane]

Am I asking in the right channel?

[broken swift]

Wrong thread but 4-8 thermalbanks with batteries are enough

[steel swift]

#aic-factory but you can also go full wulling

[broken swift]

💀 100c

[slender mantle]

holly crap

[short ridge]

Its a laptop

[steel swift]

What doesn't work?

[rotund bane]

Thanks I'll go ask there. Not going full wuling because batteries sell quite well. I am producing 12/min with this setup importing dense originium

[autumn notch]

I can't interact with anything on my screen dude

I logged out of my account and logged back in

Still nothing

[steel swift]

Try repair the game files?

Clear cache too

[short ridge]

@broken swift should i run a gpu test next😂

[broken swift]

Yes you should

[steel swift]

Tbh 100C is cooked

[short ridge]

Its a gaming laptop put under 100% preesure from the cpu....

[broken swift]

Download 3dmark and run speedway 20 rounds or Furmark 2 with 4 hours 1080p

[short ridge]

Ofc its gonna reach high temps...

[steel swift]

But it shouldn't reach 100C...

[short ridge]

It reached 86C on high end games with max graphics, while using 70-80% cpu, i think it can very well reach 100C under 100% load

[lean dome]

everyone next month when discord rolls out the update 💀

[lean dome]

sup my friend

[broken swift]

Well it's understandable tho, my office laptop could easily reach 100c and my friend's 7845hx can do 105c

[broken swift]

Sup

[steel swift]

Y'all have some serious cooling issue

[broken swift]

That's true ngl

[short ridge]

Most laptops have😂

[lean dome]

ah Nvidia crap

[short ridge]

Wym

[steel swift]

Indeed, it's bad design
Which is why I never use bottom case

[broken swift]

What's a bottom case?

[steel swift]

The one that protects your hardware from the ground

[broken swift]

Wait... So you remove it leaving the inside exposed?

[steel swift]

Ofc

Just like pc

[broken swift]

That's risky lol

[broken swift]

Well on pc if you have good airflow then removing it actually make it hotter (cause no airflow and or air direction)

[steel swift]

I'm always taking risk

[lean dome]

you should just go with a laptop that has an amd gpu instead

like 6000 series or something

[steel swift]

Yeah, but on laptop you barely have any space for airflow

[broken swift]

Yea

[autumn notch]

Still nothing

Does customer support usually reply quickly? I just sent an email about the bug

[golden zenith]

about 7 days

[steel swift]

I dont use phone so I can't explore it myself, mb

[autumn notch]

I'm so cooked

I can't even claim the daily oroberyls

[drowsy nexus]

guys is the game running with you cuz i cant log in?

[golden zenith]

what the issue? i gonna read history log meantime

[autumn notch]

I opened the mission menu just as a dialogue scene was about to start, I can't interact with anything

I'm a mobile only player

[golden zenith]

got other device you can try to login?

[autumn notch]

No

[steel swift]

The game got deadlock'd

[toxic atlas]

Do you have a controller around?

[autumn notch]

Nope

My laptop can't run endfield, so I can't log in from there

[steel swift]

You can't?

This game can even run on old hw

[toxic atlas]

If you have the RAM and a good SSD
If not...

[short ridge]

Brotha you have me as a example right here

[steel swift]

I'm running the game under minimum req

[steel swift]

12gb min for w11, other os might can be lower

and 12gb just because windows background takes 6GB lol

[hazy venture]

what's the issue he's having??

also wowoo i'm back y'all

[broken swift]

And I can run it on a super under minimum requirements lol. Technically it will run on 8gb ram vega7 or equivalent

[toxic atlas]

Game can run on 8gb RAM on Linux
Though you need a GPU with 2-4gb VRAM

[golden zenith]

what your phone model?

[autumn notch]

Samsung S23, I haven't had issues running the game

[golden zenith]

give me a while to reply, i playing cs2 meanwhile helping you guys

[lean dome]

i recommend this much better value than your laptop

[broken swift]

Ranked?

[lean dome]

Lenovo also good

[steel swift]

Yeah, the game itself only take 3-4GB of ram in a minimum setting

[short ridge]

I have a lenovo bro...

[hazy venture]

yeah it's okay

it's about 4060 laptop performance tho

[normal kraken]

Anyone here share the same issue while playing on mobile?

[autumn notch]

I hope customer support helps me quickly, I don't want to miss the oroberyls from the montly card, I paid 5 euros for that

[broken swift]

Chinese rom?

[normal kraken]

I check the Facebook theres people that is facing the same problem, but only occured on xiaomi & redmi phone

[golden zenith]

you got game booster for samsung?

[autumn notch]

Yea

[broken swift]

It's only apply on newer hyper os and Huawei tho

Older not hyperos rom work fine

[normal kraken]

Mannnn

I hope they fix this issue

[autumn notch]

I'm pretty sure it isn't an issue with my hardware, the bug happened after I opened the mission menu before a dialogue scene started

[scenic latch]

playing on mobile works, i cant seem to connect when logging in on pc

[steel swift]

miui12 is the best from xiaomi

[broken swift]

Blame it on Xiaomi/Huawei

[autumn notch]

I'm guessing unstuck or smth would fix it, but I can't open the settings menu because I can't interact with the game

[broken swift]

Agree, 12.5 here.
*Don't mind the clock this is an old screenshot from last week

[golden zenith]

got try restart your phone?

[steel swift]

I shouldn't've update my phone to 13, it's all downhill from there

[normal kraken]

Well im f cause mine is hyperos

[autumn notch]

I already tried it

Just to clarify, I can log into the game, I just can't interact with it afterwards

[broken swift]

I did try flashing 13 on my dad's old x3 nfc and damn it's buggy

[golden zenith]

what about clear cache or reinstalling

[normal kraken]

Some people on Facebook group have tried but nthing work

[golden zenith]

idk, stop playing tat shit long ago, got draged by my friend

[steel swift]

x3 nfc still alive today is a miracle lol

[golden zenith]

different ppl different phone different problem

[broken swift]

It has dead since last year tho. Battery issue, charging port issue,...

[steel swift]

at least it's not the infamous CPU solder issue

[broken swift]

I'm retired from competitive games in general now

[steel swift]

Poco needs to refine their QA

[broken swift]

Ah the x3 pro...

[autumn notch]

I'm gonna try reinstalling it

[broken swift]

Well poco are technically redmi in china which is the low end for Xiaomi phones

[steel swift]

Yeah, but cpu issue is just ridiculous

[broken swift]

Is it that bad?

I thought the worse cpu soldering issue belong to ROG (especially 2,3)

[steel swift]

Imo if the phone heat itself can mess the solder, then it just bad QA work

[autumn notch]

Hey uh if the bug continues, customer support can log into my account and use the unstuck feature to get me out of that dialogue scene, right?

[short ridge]

I am bouta tweak out, nothing is wrong with my hardware, no issues no errors WHY THE HELL AM I GETTING MEMMORY MANAGMENT CRASHES😭😭😭 WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS KINDA PUNISHMENT

[steel swift]

Like bad bad

[broken swift]

For now just try removing 1 stick

[steel swift]

Customer support can't, but they can forward it to developer

[autumn notch]

Okay

[short ridge]

Another thing is i only get crashes WHILE PLAYIGN ENDFIELD

No other game

Even has slight stutters

Mc with 500+ mods runs like butter

[steel swift]

Driver issue

[golden zenith]

did it bsod?

[short ridge]

No, my laptop didnt crash once since the last time i posted the crash here

[proven sundial]

You know what is sad on linux i only have 40 percent cpu usage windows on the other hand 65 and well yeah i noticed more interrupts

[short ridge]

But i havent booted up endfield so

[broken swift]

Idk man, based on everything you tried i think it's part of hardware issue. Because there is no way installing driver can crash a laptop

[eager sedge]

Hello guys

How do i fix Code: 0 ? I already use vpn and try differents Wi-Fi and still not working

[toxic atlas]

Tried ProtonVPN? It's probs one of the most reliable

[autumn notch]

I hope they fix that bug on the next patch, because I can't be the only person who accidentaly opened the mission menu before a dialogue scene

[golden zenith]

could be endfield causing hardware issue

[short ridge]

May be that windows antivirus is suspending it, because windows likes "stability" and if it doesnt find the driver to be "most stable" ot contests it

[broken swift]

Maybe ACE is the problem all along?

[golden zenith]

also could be

[steel swift]

Idk, I run full WinDef 24/7 and still ok for EF

Should I turn off WinDef actually?

[eager sedge]

Noice, it's work thanks bud

[autumn notch]

So if the reinstall doesn't fix it, am I gonna be stuck until the next patch?

[steel swift]

I can open Endfield, Discord, and Firefox with 12GB ram

[toxic atlas]

If you have a friend you trust enough to login on one of their devices, you could unstuck yourself from there

[golden zenith]

have to contact the staff, you can find their contact in #contact-us

[short ridge]

Holy shit what?when i have discord and endfield open i use like 14-15 gb ram

[steel swift]

Pretty sure after all these bug(s) report, they'll do emergency MT soon

[proven sundial]

Guys keep in mind microsoft itself broke nvidia drivers this week and intel drivers

It's microslops fault

[steel swift]

You're running Max setting, I'm running Min setting
We are not the same.gif

[broken swift]

Check other app maybe Endfield cause other app to memleak

[storm cairn]

THE WIFI IN HERE IS DOOMED

10KB/S

I CANT EVEN GOON

[broken swift]

Actually max setting with discord and stuff only take 10-11gb, the other remaining ram might from Endfield messing with other apps

[icy birch]

in future Arknight Endfield will Support FSR & FSR FrameGen?

[broken swift]

Maybe

[storm cairn]

no they dont have a plan for it

[icy birch]

it very sad for me very much okay thank you

[steel swift]

Probably, since we have several ppl like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1465851381175943451/1470519635450269830/image-7.png?ex=698c4062&is=698aeee2&hm=252a77a6589137303dbe9c0b1e499d5ba6cd70672bab0a86c478e70bf42b5bfc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

They should fix this in the next update

[toxic atlas]

And that's why you download

[storm cairn]

download wut

[toxic atlas]

Your materials, for offline use

[storm cairn]

🥀

i like them freshly posted

😛😛😛😛

[short ridge]

now think carefully before you answer this, the images themselves or the contents of the image...

[storm cairn]

😭

i forgo

this language is to framing people😭😭😭😭

[slender mantle]

try to goon with your avatar

[broken swift]

This sounds so wrong in every way possible 🤣

[storm cairn]

YO I FIXED IT

[golden zenith]

HELPPP

[steel swift]

It's time to run AK

[short ridge]

oh time for the real test eh?

lemme run the game integrity checker first before i launch it

[carmine palm]

anyone know why cause for some reason it is stuttering like 50% of the time and when I use afterburner to check for some reason the gpu keep spiking from 40% to 90% and idk why. is it another new patch that make it even more unstable or something?

[golden zenith]

other game have no issue right

[short ridge]

none

zero

[golden zenith]

fk endfield spaghetti code

[proven sundial]

Blame both endfield and microsoft

[storm cairn]

ur vram

[proven sundial]

[toxic atlas]

I blame MicroSlop

[short ridge]

i fear they had to do some black magic to optimize this game so thats why this is happening

[storm cairn]

have u check the vram?

[short ridge]

WHY IS GAME INTEGRITY CHECKER DOWNLOADING 3.5GIGS

[carmine palm]

no not really cause sitting at vram and I already troubleshoot alot to get to not crash?

[steel swift]

I'm using BLACK magic to run this game underspecs

[short ridge]

ISTG I CHECKED THIS LIKE 3 HOURS AGO IT WAS FINE

[carmine palm]

or am i missing something

[storm cairn]

wha...

like

is ur vram getting maxed out?

[golden zenith]

Endfield moment

[golden zenith]

kms

[storm cairn]

cause bouncy gpu usage usually that

[carmine palm]

basically I think I have defective vram since it is kinda old laptop and basically when vram is at like 5gb+ then it crash and need to underclock the memory to make not crash and that is in general

[carmine palm]

only today that it spike that much

[short ridge]

I HAVENT EVEN LAUNCHED THE GAME AFTER I LAST CHECKED IT HOW DID IT BREAK

HOOOOOOOOOOOW

[fallen tusk]

does the crashight log also response code 200?

[steel swift]

hes straight bsod

[golden zenith]

to be safe, clean reinstall everything

[golden zenith]

in endfield

[storm cairn]

js use linux atp

[steel swift]

Clean install safest way ye

[short ridge]

i am not reinstalling the whole 30 gigs game with 1.5mb download speeds😂

[storm cairn]

how much vram did ur card have btw

[short ridge]

took me ages to install this shit

[carmine palm]

6gb but it was fine ytd

[broken swift]

Ah yes more wait for the guy

[golden zenith]

okay

[carmine palm]

and using medium with dlss at balance

[steel swift]

Better safe than sorry

[storm cairn]

do u know how to overdrive the dlss preset?

ingame dlss isnt something ur card can do

[broken swift]

Game use K by default iirc

And K run well on all?

[golden zenith]

run the game and test, no issue then uninstall occt

[storm cairn]

they r using 4.5

[carmine palm]

nope haven't touch the app except the control panel

[storm cairn]

not L or M

just 4.5

[carmine palm]

also using the dx11 launch option

since for some reason if not then crash just like 1 min after launch

[storm cairn]

like vulkan would make u crash?

have u update ur gpu's driver lately?

[toxic atlas]

(for the love of god stop using the built-in DLSS and FrameGen features of the game)

[carmine palm]

oh i do have the latest studio driver when i was troubleshooting my vram thing

[golden zenith]

they remove the disabled button

[carmine palm]

also maybe I should not use hybrid mode on the laptop?

i mean this

[storm cairn]

can u go and change that to game ready one? unless u do using stuff like 3d rendering

[proven sundial]

They'll never learn

[storm cairn]

guys is this one like mux?

[short ridge]

there is not an option to "turn it off" though is there

[carmine palm]

guess I'll try since studio driver was for not crashing

[storm cairn]

taau is an option🥀

[carmine palm]

not sure

[proven sundial]

Yeah just go for taau

[storm cairn]

THOUGH

[broken swift]

Nah taau is the worse imo

[storm cairn]

I BLAMED NVIDIA FOR DEFAULTING 4.5 ON OLDER CARD

[carmine palm]

wait so my 2060 is using dlss 4.5?

[storm cairn]

i mean thats pretty much disable the dlss

[storm cairn]

yes

[carmine palm]

wtf

[broken swift]

They made it to make people that old gpus are obsolete

[storm cairn]

its built in

[patent shoal]

just use K override on nvapp

[carmine palm]

though idk how dlss 4 runs on my 2060m

better but idk how much better

[broken swift]

Dlss2,3,4,4.5 run on all rtx gpu

[patent shoal]

btw dlss 4.5 only cover preset L and M, the older preset is not DLSS 4.5

[carmine palm]

I just know 4.5 is more demanding

[storm cairn]

some game did built in 4.5 for them. js learn how to overdrive the preset 😄

[patent shoal]

yep

[broken swift]

A lot better actually but the fps cut for 20xx/30xx is too high (30-50%)

[broken swift]

So the game just update to 4.5 🥀

[patent shoal]

the difference between DLSS 4 and 4.5 is the ghosting (which is not that bad in K)

the comparison is not apple to apple though

[carmine palm]

so I guess I should override it to use preset K then I forgot which one?

[patent shoal]

since preset K in Quality vs M on Performance

[storm cairn]

yeah they disabled some of the card cause those are just not working great

[broken swift]

K

[carmine palm]

that i also didn't know

maybe that is why it is stuttering but not sure

[patent shoal]

game just use the latest DLSS sdk iirc

[broken swift]

I run 4.5 M since the beginning so i had no idea lol

[storm cairn]

honestly tho. 4.5 is really good

like dark magic

[broken swift]

So that's M/L?

[patent shoal]

yeah, but the performance is so taxing in 4000 series and below

its just good for 5000 series

[patent shoal]

yeah

[broken swift]

40 and 50 run it with the same performance lost. 20/30 don't have the necessary cores to run it

[patent shoal]

eh? performance lost on 5000 ? oh we comparing it with preset K ?

i mean for M and L the baseline is on their newest gpu which is 5000 series

[broken swift]

They said it here, basically 40/50 loss 5-10% fps

[patent shoal]

nothing mentioning 5000 series in there

[broken swift]

20/30 loss 30-50%

[patent shoal]

yeah like i said before, its only working best on 5000 series

but if we use preset comparison between M / L with K

then the newer one is heavier indeed

even on 5000 series

[broken swift]

40 and 50 has the same performance lost ratio tho? It's "work best" on 40/50 cause both of these series have fp8

[patent shoal]

idk but in some testing its still taxing on 4000 series

even tho they had fp8

but not that bad like in 3000 series

maybe its because 5000 is newer

[broken swift]

Yea it's taxting but not much, it's like 5% for me

[patent shoal]

yep

since they using newest gpu as baseline which is 5000 series

[broken swift]

5000 still tax 5% too

[patent shoal]

compared to K ?

definitely

[broken swift]

Yea

[carmine palm]

ok guys just to confirm I override the preset K right or any other ones since I'm using a pretty old gpu?

[patent shoal]

yes

K is the best preset for older nvidia gpu

[broken swift]

@patent shoal Wait oh i misunderstood you. I was comparing K vs M on 20/30/40/50

[patent shoal]

maybe its because my wording is messed

it is indeed that DLSS preset M / L (4.5) is heavier than preset K. (even in 5000 series)

but if we only test it independently (which is only testing M / L on all nvidia lineup, they definitely use 5000 series as baseline

[broken swift]

Yea, that's why Nvidia said M for performance 2k and L for UP 4k

[patent shoal]

yeah

[broken swift]

They should've test all series

[patent shoal]

for balance and above (quality and DLAA) just use K

[broken swift]

It's 5070 vs 4090 all over again lmao

[crude oak]

Hello. is there a real workaround to disable "Image Enhancement" Upscaling/AntiAliasing completely?

[broken swift]

Imo i still think M performance look better than K DLAA at 2k. Cause unlike K, M preserve all particles and details

[patent shoal]

if u guys want to check which dlss preset is used in game, u can use the dlss overlay via regedit

[patent shoal]

ah then its good, I cant test M and L bcoz mine is 3000 series

[broken swift]

You can though, it's just M performance is going to have the same fps as K dlaa or quality

[patent shoal]

its heavier tho in my device

maybe bcoz my vram is not that big and the dlss model use it all