tech-support

[toxic atlas]

a BSOD? did you catch what the error code & object were?

[lapis blade]

so i opened the crash log, the actual comp jsut crashes and only this game, only recently like past couple days, changing vulkan and directx11 didnt help

the code was 200

Sun Feb 1 13:21:58 2026:Begin get access info
Sun Feb 1 13:21:58 2026:app:[6c7d06d232],domain:[pc.crashsight.wetest.net]
Sun Feb 1 13:21:58 2026:expuid is 067093B76E1F4CE8A71CF44C150D1B67
Sun Feb 1 13:21:59 2026:response code is 200

each of them look like this basically

[toxic atlas]

that's not the actual crash error
that's the crash handler log, the one sending out the crash data to gryphline

you can look in the windows event viewer to get some more details

[lapis blade]

yeah i didnt have a crash popup bc the whole pc crashes

oh yeah ok

[toxic atlas]

200 is the received status code for the crash upload, which is HTTP speak for "OK"

[lapis blade]

waht info do i tell u

[toxic atlas]

find the application crash in the event viewer, and send a screenshot of the details

[lapis blade]

it wont let me ss ffs

lol

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-TPM-WMI
Date: 2/1/2026 1:43:32 PM
Event ID: 1801
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: MSI
Description:
Updated Secure Boot certificates are available on this device but have not yet been applied to the firmware. Review the published guidance to complete the update and maintain full protection. This device signature information is included here.
DeviceAttributes: BaseBoardManufacturer:Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.;FirmwareManufacturer:American Megatrends International, LLC.;FirmwareVersion:E158NAMS.509;OEMModelBaseBoard:MS-158N;OEMManufacturerName:Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.;OSArchitecture:amd64;
BucketId: 609d7c18327ada04449515ad7563d26868128cd9fce8efc599c26f160e8a02fa
BucketConfidenceLevel:
UpdateType:
For more information, please see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2301018.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-TPM-WMI" Guid="{7d5387b0-cbe0-11da-a94d-0800200c9a66}" />
<EventID>1801</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2026-02-01T18:43:32.0227193Z" />
<EventRecordID>105446</EventRecordID>

<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="15572" ThreadID="10944" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>MSI</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="DeviceAttributes">BaseBoardManufacturer:Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.;FirmwareManufacturer:American Megatrends International, LLC.;FirmwareVersion:E158NAMS.509;OEMModelBaseBoard:MS-158N;OEMManufacturerName:Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.;OSArchitecture:amd64;</Data>
<Data Name="BucketId">609d7c18327ada04449515ad7563d26868128cd9fce8efc599c26f160e8a02fa</Data>
<Data Name="BucketConfidenceLevel">
</Data>
<Data Name="UpdateType">
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

best i can do

[toxic atlas]

that's something else entirely, windows complaining about a secureboot update

[lapis blade]

i think this is the correct thing as its the error event and lines up well

guh

idk which event it is then :c

[toxic atlas]

look through the list, at the time of crash
there should be at least one tied to Endfield.exe

[sand hull]

Still not fix
NPC block this area 100%

[lapis blade]

mother-

is it overwolf

[toxic atlas]

look in applications, on the left

not in system

[toxic atlas]

it's not, that's an information that overwolf checked the system network config data

[cyan pebble]

is there anything to do if you have buggy pipes or water pumps? I can't tell which one of them is causing the problem 100% but its very bizarre

like you can walk up to the pump, stash it, and it will still be displayed on the map and on top of that it causes insane lag that's capable of softlocking you to loading screen 🤣

oh and the pipes will be suspended in mid air lol

Who are you supposed to reach out to?

[lapis blade]

wherew in applications

[cyan pebble]

Its a pain in the ass I thought it would go away on its own but 24h later it didn't

[toxic atlas]

not the folder, the one above system

[lyric talon]

Is this just a graphics bug on my PC or a game bug?

[lapis blade]

ah

[cyan pebble]

nobody knows who you are supposed to reach out to for bugs?

[lapis blade]

thanks

lemme see

[toxic atlas]

#1461653979862925498 or CS (details in #contact-us )

[lapis blade]

ngl idk which error log it is there's so many

some say app crash report too and idk

[cyan pebble]

Appreciate it 🫡

[lapis blade]

WIAT

found

[toxic atlas]

just click through a few, find the one for Endfield.exe

[lapis blade]

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 2/1/2026 1:19:51 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: Application Crashing Events
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: MSI\nguye
Computer: MSI
Description:
Faulting application name: PlatformProcess.exe, version: 1.4.3.1, time stamp: 0x6972ddd1
Faulting module name: Qt5WebEngineCore.dll, version: 5.15.8.0, time stamp: 0x6541809b
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000001d5f4cd
Faulting process id: 0x64EC
Faulting application start time: 0x1DC93A7596A794C
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\GRYPHLINK\games\EndField Game\PlatformProcess.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\GRYPHLINK\games\EndField Game\Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
Report Id: 66130d04-3d1d-4679-936b-cc7df4477000
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">

<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" Guid="{a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57}" />
<EventID>1000</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2026-02-01T18:19:51.1224029Z" />
<EventRecordID>144929</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="22876" ThreadID="22652" />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>MSI</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-21-405932562-2941714874-3818146065-1001" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="AppName">PlatformProcess.exe</Data>
<Data Name="AppVersion">1.4.3.1</Data>
<Data Name="AppTimeStamp">6972ddd1</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleName">Qt5WebEngineCore.dll</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleVersion">5.15.8.0</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleTimeStamp">6541809b</Data>
<Data Name="ExceptionCode">c0000005</Data>
<Data Name="FaultingOffset">0000000001d5f4cd</Data>
<Data Name="ProcessId">0x64ec</Data>
<Data Name="ProcessCreationTime">0x1dc93a7596a794c</Data>
<Data Name="AppPath">C:\Program Files\GRYPHLINK\games\EndField Game\PlatformProcess.exe</Data>
<Data Name="ModulePath">C:\Program Files\GRYPHLINK\games\EndField Game\Qt5WebEngineCore.dll</Data>
<Data Name="IntegratorReportId">66130d04-3d1d-4679-936b-cc7df4477000</Data>
<Data Name="PackageFullName">
</Data>
<Data Name="PackageRelativeAppId">
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

that took awhile to scroll through

at least this is one of the errors

[toxic atlas]

oh for fucks sake
do you use some other antivirus than MS Defender?

Kaspersky, ESET, McAfee, BitDefender, etc

[lapis blade]

ew no

i had wahts it called uhh maleware bytes awhile back

but i deleted it bc i didnt need it

[toxic atlas]

try playing the game, but keep an eye on the memory usage in task manager

[lapis blade]

mcafee is a virus

[toxic atlas]

how much ram you got in your system?

[lapis blade]

32

[toxic atlas]

you're good
if it's not antivirus (kaspersky is actually confirmed to fuck with the game), i suspect memleak

do you use DLSS?

[lapis blade]

the only thing i really do is port forward my wifi for games

no

should i?

[toxic atlas]

no
DX11 & DLSS are known to trigger it from time to time

[lapis blade]

guh back to vulkan ig?

[alpine sparrow]

are there known issues with the ping display on some systems?
it constantly shows me a false 0-1ms but on everyone else's screenshots it shows the real ping

[toxic atlas]

if you have a GPU older than 10 years, DX11
if not, Vulkan

[lapis blade]

ok

hmm ill change some settings with the graphics again after i swap to vulkan

[toxic atlas]

what's your GPU?

[lapis blade]

but uh, if this happens again u mind if i ask u specifically for help again?

4070 laptop

[toxic atlas]

just set it to very high and it'll be fine

unless you want to save on battery

[lapis blade]

nah hehe

do i u think?

also wish lightshot would work with this game but whatever

[toxic atlas]

you could use the native screen snipping tool in windows

[lapis blade]

yeah but win shift s and i move as i try to ss lol

its ok

im just used to using lightshot

[toxic atlas]

go to settings, accessibility, keyboard, check print screen opens snipping tool

[lapis blade]

u mind if i ping u for more help btw?

[toxic atlas]

sure

[lapis blade]

if this happens more

thanks 💙

[toxic atlas]

though i'll be logging off soon-ish, 9 PM here

[lapis blade]

yeye nws

thanks, ill try some more stuff and cope

time to cope for linux compatability soon :P

[toxic atlas]

we have linux compat

i'm playing on linux
and we even have Steam Deck players in here

[hollow lion]

Trying DirectX 11 this time

Fingers crossed it fixes the heat issue

[lapis blade]

oh i heard it caused issues with the anticheat despite it technically being comp

[lapis blade]

welp ig this means i might just move to linux even sooner hehe, it was my goal this year

[toxic atlas]

no?
it literally runs better than on windows

[lapis blade]

well that's good :D

[toxic atlas]

all the windows update issues, anticheat issues, drivers issues? not a thing in the penguin land

[lapis blade]

it was honestly the thing that was holding me off from moving all the way to linux

[drowsy pier]

I need help...

[lapis blade]

oooo, well later i might ask u for tips on which distro hehe

[toxic atlas]

only games that do not work are those that go out of your way to cut off linux, like Riot Games, Fortnite, Battlefield, CoD

otherwise pretty much all of steam works here

[toxic atlas]

if it's something we can assist with, shoot

[drowsy pier]

The dialogue finished like 3 min ago and the cinematique is still going

[lapis blade]

thank god i have good taste

[toxic atlas]

tried restarting? does it occur every time?

[drowsy pier]

It's going frame per frame even if my option are on extra low

[drowsy pier]

Can't it just don't want to

[toxic atlas]

laptop?

[drowsy pier]

Yes

[toxic atlas]

can you share some specs?
CPU/GPU/RAM etc

[drowsy pier]

It's 16 Ram and the others i don't know

[hollow lion]

Either my changes from last night and today helped, or Gyphline hotpatched it, but so far no red P-cores

DirectX 11 doing pretty good so far

[storm cairn]

u can right click on the taskbar then choose task manager

[drowsy pier]

Oh it's finaly finish but now my pc is making some big sounds

[storm cairn]

for some dx11 does not fix this tho

[hollow lion]

It's still early... the problem usually manifests after doing something, or enough time passes

[storm cairn]

but pls see if its actually improving

[drowsy pier]

I think it's gonna explod...

[storm cairn]

have it bsod-ed before?

[hollow lion]

And actually, I think something got turned off in exchange

Because I can see blur when I rotate camera

[storm cairn]

wdym blur?

[hollow lion]

It used to be picture perfect even while the camera was moving

[storm cairn]

like a motion blur?

[drowsy pier]

Oh no i turned this down like shadows...

[hollow lion]

Yeah. Like if there's the word Bridge on the wall in the spaceship or station

If you rotate camera and it flies by, yesterday I could read it easily

Today, it's blurred and hard to read while in motion

RIP, I broke something

[storm cairn]

check ur dlss or frame gen

[hollow lion]

It seems to be off or not running while in DirectX 11

I'm at 60 fps

[drowsy pier]

So now that there isn't the cinematique prob i think i'm gonna go

Bye and thx to you all

Hope i don't come back soon

[hollow lion]

Well.. I can accept 60fps if the P-cores heat problem is fixed

Switching to 120fps though since frame gen isn't working

[flint solstice]

Anyone started having crash issues after unlocking wuling

[proven sundial]

Turn down screen space reflections and effects

There a so much particles there

[flint solstice]

Everything on low already

I dont have that problem in valley tho

[proven sundial]

Yeah i know just saying there is 3x the particles in wuling and 5x more water

Which is somehow making people crash

[hearty mango]

Does anyone know if there's some sort of program that can be used to check game performance in realtime? Frames per seconds and whatnot

[proven sundial]

Depends on what your gpu is ?

[hearty mango]

NVIDIA

[proven sundial]

There is an nvidia overlay in the nvidia app that shows you fps and cpu and gpu usage

[hearty mango]

Ill try that, thanks

[summer pagoda]

Can I shill RTSS

[proven sundial]

Well you can 😝

[elfin kindle]

Just chiming in, I'm getting the same issue, changing between DX11 and Vulkan, different dwproton versions, messing with graphics options, nothing's worked to resolve it. Seemingly randomly, the game window just completely freezes and doesn't respond to any input.
Without a custom keybind to kill the game window, recovering from it requires a full system restart.

[toxic atlas]

if you are running through Steam, try Faugus instead
Do not use Heroic (Epic), and only the Flatpak version of Lutris works properly on all systems

[elfin kindle]

Yes, running through Steam. I'll try Faugus then.

[sonic salmon]

better to mail customer support, if no troubleshoot is helping.

[summer pagoda]

I don't believe CS is going to be of any help with Linux issues

[low bloom]

Guys is it normal that my CPU temps are higher while playing endfield

than even cinebench

i even changed my thermal paste and bought new CPU fans lol

[proven sundial]

How high is high ?

[low bloom]

if i let it it just hits throttle

it keeps going up overtime

never stops going up

it gets stopped only by the throttle limit

95c is my cpu limit and only this thing can hit it

even benchmarks are not hitting 95

[proven sundial]

Ah yeah seems like the bug is still present then that overloads your cores

3 cores getting pinned hard ?

[summer pagoda]

Yea 3-4 cores

[low bloom]

so is it a known issue

[summer pagoda]

Also, 7700x friend

[proven sundial]

Yeah known issue

[low bloom]

i see, welp i guess my pc got an upgrade from this issue

[proven sundial]

Devs are kinda slow about it

[brittle yarrow]

My cpu fries lol when I play

[low bloom]

i bought new thermal paste and 5 new case fans

LOL

[brittle yarrow]

Dang

[low bloom]

good to know my thing is not broken

[brittle yarrow]

Btw I was wondering if the game would work smooth in mobile I got 12gb ram with snapdragon 888

[hollow lion]

Didn't work

I now have two red P-cores popping up constantly

[proven sundial]

My threadripper is using 180 watts of power on this game so no surprises there

[hollow lion]

Restarting to see if it calms down

[brittle yarrow]

U play on a thread ripper?

[viral eagle]

i connected the power to this electric nexus before it prompted me to do so, and now even when i finished the rest of the quest it doesn't register as finished

where can i bug report this

[toxic atlas]

i play on a 5950x

[proven sundial]

Yeah and even those cores are half loaded on all cores

[toxic atlas]

game barely generates any load but makes my chip boost into tomorrow

[proven sundial]

Have you tried to fully relog ?

[viral eagle]

yes

[hollow lion]

Nevermind @storm cairn - it's still doing this in same spot after I restarted. Either it's the location or something else is happening

[proven sundial]

Well on CachyOs half of my cpu is loaded

[reef mason]

u objective is to actually find "clues" in there, the powering itself sint part of the quets but an outside requirement to open the door

[hearty mango]

Sometimes quests get stuck. I found one where it got stuck on the "get reward" stage of a quest and let me claim premium currency rewards endlessly. (Reported it ofc)

[viral eagle]

yes i found the clues and also finished the entire quest

[hearty mango]

The day after I e-mailed them about it, it was gone. So I think someone removed the quest manually.

[viral eagle]

it doesnt register it as finished

[hollow lion]

The location seems to affect when I go fullscreen.. if I use smaller windowed, the burden on p-cores lift quickly

What on earth is using CPU here, hrm

[viral eagle]

where did you report it

is there an official channel for it

[hearty mango]

As I said, I e-mailed them.

[viral eagle]

ah, i see

[reef mason]

ingame via customer support option

[toxic atlas]

ah.. wuling

[proven sundial]

Wuling

Is a magical place

Full of particles

That wrecks your cpu

[hollow lion]

The land where CPUs go to die and reach heaven?

[reef mason]

common misconception that all grafic related stuff is handled by gpu
cpu is actually doing alot of heavy lifting for graphics too
gpu jsut handles ther more "specialised" tasks of rendering

[hollow lion]

What settings can control it here? Since it's givine me false positive of the heat problem

So I need to turn it off for a while at least

Screen space reflections? Trying it off now

[proven sundial]

Effects and screen space reflections

Apparently 40 percent of particles are handled by cpu

[hollow lion]

That tamed it, thanks

Had to put Special Effects to Low, and Screen Space Reflections to Off

[proven sundial]

Well i do hope they will optimize it more

[hollow lion]

CPU could handle it, but meant at least 1-2 P-cores frequently hitting 96-100 even if it's different P-cores each time

And while that's probably okay as designed, I am trying to detect the issue where 3-4 P-cores are always hitting red later

[reef mason]

its pretty well optimised actually
most issues i see where ppl with older hardware and/or bad graphics settings
there is however the issue of memory leaks i saw from others (i have a higher than usual ram usage withe ndfield but no memory leaks myself so far)

[viral eagle]

also try disabling turbo, or disabling threading. you can probably figure out disabling turbo, and disabling threading is often done by disabling odd numbered threads in your processor, so you can get higher single thread performance for less heat

[proven sundial]

The thing i know is on windows something is looping on 3 cores

Increasing load over time

[hollow lion]

I've disabled turbo before, if I do that the P-cores basically behave normally or are skipped/never boosting. Computer starts lagging

[viral eagle]

try to disable threading on the cores then, maybe that can help the heating issue

[hollow lion]

The way it's supposed to work is P-cores take the burden of starting up fast and burning to keep things going smoothly, right? So I'd only do that if there was a serious problem and it was between losing computer or keeping it running

[clever sleet]

i didnt get the ferrium bottles from tangtang. now my story is locked.

how to fix this

[hollow lion]

It's okay now, now that I turned off or reduced to minimum the special effects and screen space reflections

Everything is running well, just waiting for the original problem to come back (so far it hasn't)

[reef mason]

usually recommended settings (on nvidia cards) that can help alot
V-Sync -> OFF
Nvidia Low Latency -> OFF
DLSS/DLAA -> ON

[viral eagle]

i wonder when will the game get dlss or fsr, if ever

[proven sundial]

It's definitely more optimized then a lot of games but not good enough especially particles

[clever sleet]

or is this not the right channel to discus game issues?

[reef mason]

rtx 3050?

[viral eagle]

3060 mobile, every day is a struggle

[reef mason]

yh dlss is deactivated for 30x cards
dunno if its intended or on accident

[viral eagle]

probably accident, or they use a higher api that 30xx doesnt support

my bet is on the second one

[proven sundial]

It's intentionally disabled

Because of the memory leak and graphical issues

[candid turtle]

How do I link my ps5 endfield account to my phone?

[viral eagle]

that's lowkey a weak reasoning

[hollow lion]

You can create your own Ferrium bottles, you'd have to go back to Valley and make them though. Or acquire from other means

[reef mason]

dlss was there on launch, but first update removed it for 30xx

[candid turtle]

I've been trying to link it with the same email I used but my phone keeps saying that the email has already been used instead of just signing me into my account

[sonic salmon]

Play in lower graphics settings and check if there is any difference

[viral eagle]

i dunno, i was just surprised and a bit disappointed to not see dlss or fsr option in a 30 series gpu.

[proven sundial]

Fsr is not even available

[reef mason]

endfield is actually the first game that even offered me dlaa as an option

[hollow lion]

... Wuling is hating me right now

[viral eagle]

yeah, it should be though

[hollow lion]

Crashed, then got back in, crashed 30 seconds later

Going back to not-DirectX 11

[viral eagle]

wuling was post lv35 right?

[proven sundial]

Amd said fsr is removed becausd the rendering pipelines has issues

[toxic atlas]

wuling is soon after removing the rift in the sky

not based on level

[proven sundial]

So it's the developers fault

[toxic atlas]

the rendering pipeline in this game is not unity-native
they did the same shit with OG AK, modded it to hell and back

if it was, unity has native FSR capabilities

[proven sundial]

Yeah it's not ideal but i am sure it will get resolved

That being said pixel reconstruction works perfectly fine

@toxic atlas does the 5950x have load balancing ?

[toxic atlas]

if it didn't, one side of the die would already be cooked

[proven sundial]

I mean it's not the same kind of load balancing but it works well enough

[clever sleet]

i havent unlocked ant gathering spots

[proven sundial]

How so ?

You should be able to easily get them

[toxic atlas]

@proven sundial apparently they use the WuWa hack
detects SteamDeck and disables ACE
just got a confirmation GE-Proton works for AKEF on the Deck

[royal cobalt]

Is it me or the game is sucking up my ram now, wtf is wrong with this game(as a low end PC user) lol 😂

[hollow lion]

You can teleport to Valley regions - the Chapter 1 regions, in other words. You likely already have a factory system going there, right? By factory system, I mean.. production lines, making at least amethyst parts and other stuff for low level gear

You can mine Ferrium Ore locations and then produce Ferrium Parts - around that tech level is Ferrium Bottles too

[clever sleet]

oh wait i am dumb i am thinking about the wrong ore

[hollow lion]

You basically missed this step, you wouldn't be the first one.. I missed Steel for the longest time before I realized I could shred and refine things more into Steel

[full bluff]

it's normal, for any new game I would say

[royal cobalt]

Bruh u saw my earlier issu right. Even with all low settings?

[proven sundial]

Which one ?

[hollow lion]

Any other CPU-releated settings in Endfield that I can lower or turn off?

I'm very pleased with Screen Space Reflections off and Special Effects low, hoping for more things to disable

[royal cobalt]

I was hitting 100% CPU with 9-10k ram now ram at 15k+ and CPU went down massive

[proven sundial]

Those are the most cpu heavy settings feel free to mess around

[sudden sinew]

game's not optimized after a few bugfixes

[full bluff]

also everyone should check drivers, after newest nvidia drivers my cpu started to act weirdly too. Then new cpu drivers, and some settings in nvidia were turn off

[royal cobalt]

Screen ref always off?

What about Nvidia ref low lat?

[hollow lion]

You know what, maybe I should just try everything off 😂 Get an idea of the baseline or absolute minimum

[proven sundial]

That's really weird how does it switch up like that

[proven sundial]

Well i am glad you did not unlock your fps otherwise your system would fail

My fps is fully unlocked

And running at 183 fps native

[royal cobalt]

[hollow lion]

I'm confused by this, wdym system would fail?

[proven sundial]

It would most definitely overheat your system i mean

[hollow lion]

I don't understand still

I'm having a hard time reconciling the possibility of overheating, with lowering or turning off all the game graphic options?

[proven sundial]

Yeah that's fine as is i mean

I just mean with all those settings cranked and unlocked fps

[hollow lion]

Ohh

[proven sundial]

This game would melt

[hollow lion]

Well I can play with full max but 60 fps and rely on DLSS frame gen to achieve 120 fps

And, it was pretty gorgeous

But, I'm now past the "ooh ahhh wow" phase

[sullen locust]

Idk why but the game feels a bit washed out to me

[hollow lion]

I just want to kill stuff and farm without having to deal with concerns that my computer will melt from a bug 😂

So I'm going to see how the temps will look, when everything is off

I even put on TAAU instead of DLSS but that's probably not right

[proven sundial]

TAAU is fine

You can sharpen with RIS

If needed

[hollow lion]

At this point it can even be in pixels gameplay and I'll be fine 👀

[proven sundial]

Fair enough

[hollow lion]

Temps do look better now

And the game is still pretty. Now more like surrealistic painting though

In Wuling swamp

[proven sundial]

Now promoting Wuling killer of cpus

[hollow lion]

Well, I'll keep it on this settings to see if the actual bug I'm waiting for comes back

After about 1-2 hours of play I start getting 3-4 red p-cores

Even while sitting at factory in Valley, etc

And, a quick full game restart puts them back to normal

[proven sundial]

Ah so you are having the cpu overload bug

[hollow lion]

Right

I tried DirectX 11 and it seemed to help, but then game crashed twice recently and I gave up on trying it

So back on Vulcan and with minimum settings.. everything as low as possible except Render Scale, kept that 100%

[proven sundial]

Seems a lot more common where 3 cores are getting hammered

[hollow lion]

Now fingers crossed it's somehow settings related

[proven sundial]

Well if it can extend your playtime that's a win

And more stability of course

[hollow lion]

Unexpected side effect: Fighting is easier

No distraction or chaos affecting me anymore

[proven sundial]

I do like me some flashy effects

https://tenor.com/view/pug-bright-flashbomb-anime-cute-gif-5398095

[rapid tendon]

For some reason the loading screen for getting in the game is extremely slow

Or just freezes

What should I do?

[proven sundial]

Platform ?

[rapid tendon]

Laptop

[proven sundial]

Does it run on a hdd or ssd

[rapid tendon]

I installed it on an external ssd

[royal cobalt]

Running at 60fps 50-60% CPU usage, finally the game feels playable

[rapid tendon]

Game is pretty smooth even if my gpu is 99% and cpu 60-80 😭 not to compare just wondering how that’s the case

Or why that’s the case

[royal cobalt]

Needs Abit of time for polishing, I was having 100% cpu issue now my ram is tanking it

Let's hope it gets solved

[rapid tendon]

Having 16gb ram probably isn’t great right

[proven sundial]

Well if the loading screen is slow most likely gpu is compiling shaders external ssd should not be a big factor

[royal cobalt]

In this economy? 😭

[rapid tendon]

Gotcha

[rapid tendon]

I got this gaming laptop years ago before all this shit 💔

[proven sundial]

And yes 16 Gb of ram is just fine for this game

[royal cobalt]

Ay laptop?

U are already playing in hard mode lol

[rapid tendon]

That’s great, they’ve done a awesome job on optimisation

[rapid tendon]

Ain’t worse than playing Tarkov or rust a year or two sho

Ago*

That required real fucking willpower

[proven sundial]

Rust yeahhh that is pretty much single threaded

[royal cobalt]

@proven sundial btw I just realized that the game was spiking my CPU temp, I think that pushed my usage to 100 too

Cause now it's sitting at 60-62°

[rapid tendon]

Got curious about the temp aswell

[royal cobalt]

And cup at 50-55%

[rapid tendon]

60-65 🙏

This thing holds up suprisingly well

[proven sundial]

As long as your cpu is not going above 86 degrees

Then you should be okay

Mine is running at 73

[rapid tendon]

When I rechecked actually it got up to 71 so I think I should be okay

Only game that I actually couldn’t play ever was stalker 2 (Xbox gamepass free two weeks)

A game has never been that unplayable for me

[marsh plaza]

What am I supposed to do? I’ve tried every fucking which way to get my game working on my PC and I try to download it on the website, I download it on epic it won’t release my resources. I’ve ran it as the admin. I’ve done everything that people have suggested and yet my game still won’t run and yet it was running 2 days ago…….

[rapid tendon]

If it was fine 2 days ago wouldn’t it be something with your system?

🤔

[marsh plaza]

The thing is, I’ve patched the integrity. I have clear the cache and it was running the game, perfectly fine, except a few stutters because it wasn’t running at the highest graphic settings

[proven sundial]

It has nothing to do with their systems most of the time

[rapid tendon]

I see

If only this stuff just stopped happening

[marsh plaza]

I have done Ram it as admin. I’ve done the Cloudflare thing.

I’ve done the Google thing. I’ve tried everything to fix it and yet it won’t release my resources but yet two days ago it had no issue doing this.

I should’ve just never started this damn game because I knew it was probably gonna give me fucking issues

[proven sundial]

Can you list what you have done so i can think along with you ?

[marsh plaza]

Somebody suggested I do the Cloudflare thing to change my DNS if that didn’t work, then try the Google one my tech friend and me were sitting here trying to clear the cachet files so we did that we’ve ran it as admin we uninstalled it from epic and reinstall it on the webpage and that’s still won’t work I’ve updated my drivers to the best of their ability and even ran the game when there’s nothing else in the background going on and it still won’t work

Somebody suggested that I click the little checkmark box underneath the game a few times to I guess help out with it that didn’t work

I removed it from my internal hard drive to my SSD

So that way it could run smoother

And most of the people I’ve talk to seem to fix their issue is setting their client as running as admin but anytime I do that it just gets stuck on 0% and doesn’t move

[proven sundial]

You haven't removed the Hgdownload yet right ?

[marsh plaza]

That’s one of the things that me and my tech friend did as well I forgot about that

[proven sundial]

After doing the removal of that did you fully restart the system so memory was wiped

[marsh plaza]

Ye

And then, my friend had me do the file integrity thing, so that way all the missing files would be put back on and then we launched it and it didn’t work

[final moss]

Not sure if this is the right channel but am I the only one who gets network errors all the time when I try to play on pc instead of mobile?

[proven sundial]

Common occurance use cloudflare or protonvpn for now

There are routing issues

[proven sundial]

Alright i see and what are your full specs ?

[languid merlin]

Anyone else have an issue with making a purchase on apple pay with paypal and getting the in game rewards but seeing no charge on paypal?

[final moss]

Using cloudflare warp allowed me to log in at least but I got these issues every 40 seconds

[proven sundial]

Well protonvpn might be more stable

Give it a go there is no harm in doing so

[final moss]

on it

[jovial pine]

Does anyone know how long support ticket emails take to be answered? 7 days now with no answer. Going on 8. My main quest line is broken. Other people have the same issue.

[marsh plaza]

My tech friend said that I should not be able to play the game but I decided to download it anyways and it was working for me

[toxic atlas]

game works on integrated as long as you have enough ramm so you're fine on that front

[proven sundial]

It's a dual core cpu ?

That might be tricky

[final moss]

where should I connect to with protonvpn?

[proven sundial]

Closest country to you

[marsh plaza]

I’m not entirely sure because I’m not computer techie so I don’t understand computer lingo lol

[final moss]

seeing as Ill have to pay 10 bucks for that Ig ill try the free usa connection

[proven sundial]

Fair enough

[proven sundial]

Yeah it's a dual core cpu that is probably why it is struggling to unpack resources

[final moss]

My expectations are low considering im in the EU but lets hope it works out

[maiden star]

it's a game optimized to run on phones, of course you'd be able to play it 😛

[marsh plaza]

My friend meant with how bad my stuff was then it might not run very smoothly or at all

[full bluff]

I doubt it will run at all, with only low end cpu with integrated graphics

[proven sundial]

The cpu concerns me the most honestly

[marsh plaza]

That’s the thing it was running perfectly fine and the graphics wear a OK. It wasn’t the greatest graphics, but it was still working.

I mean, yeah, I had a few sputters where is sent this application is not responding, but then it jumped right back and I was able to play

[full bluff]

hmmm maybe after that infamous update it stopped working

[proven sundial]

I have an idea

[marsh plaza]

Yeah, it probably did and that probably means that I probably won’t be able to play it anymore and if so, then I regret even trying to play the game in the first place because I hate starting things and then stopping

[proven sundial]

To accelerate cpu performance let me have a look

[final moss]

my ping is ass but I am at least able to log in, thank you

[proven sundial]

Well atleast it works have a nice day ❤️

[full bluff]

u can always, check game integrity, if it doesnt help try reinstalling it, check drivers on your pc

[marsh plaza]

My friend help me update my drivers to the latest ones that he could find

I reinstalled it in total about six times

[proven sundial]

Can you search for inspectre

It's a program that frees up more cpu overhead

[marsh plaza]

This?

[proven sundial]

Yup that one

Disable both spectre and meltdown

Once downloaded and restart

[marsh plaza]

So download it first, then do the disable

[proven sundial]

Yup yup

[tall badger]

this is a server problem? because my internet is working perfect when I use other games

[proven sundial]

Yes there are known routing issues

[marsh plaza]

OK I did that

[tall badger]

thanks for that info.

[proven sundial]

Fully restarted your laptop ?

[marsh plaza]

Yes

I had to do 2 restarts because my computer is stupid

[proven sundial]

Well now try to just start the game under vulkan

Let's see if it freed up enough cpu performance

[royal cobalt]

Not sure if emulator will work for him, but he can try that later if the game doesn't work(not sure myself) he can play the mobile version on pc

I was gonna do this if my CPU kept on pushing 100%, since it feels like fixed gonna stick to pc ver and hope my pc doesn't die on me

[proven sundial]

With that cpu of his emulation is out of the question

[royal cobalt]

True

[proven sundial]

You need 3 core for emulation

He only has 2

😅

[marsh plaza]

It’s using a lot less CPU for the game but it’s still not loading

[proven sundial]

Let it run for a little

If no changed occur in 15 min

Then we are SOL

[sacred yoke]

Looking to get some clarity on this issue here. I have gone back and forth for 4 days now spending 20-30 mins just throwing bombs at the circled generator with no change to the gate. The other 3 are off and the gate its attached 2 open. Any suggestions / ideas / help appreciated.
Image

[sweet osprey]

My endfield is lowk blackscreening if I select the game but on any other tab it shows

[marsh plaza]

She ^ btw

[proven sundial]

Fair enough will keep it in mind

[edgy plume]

Found a possible bug on PS5 version, the final Infra Station expansion quest prompts you to go to the Archive and select the relevant quest file, but will not go further and just locks you into the file selection screen, with the X button option saying ‘Not Found’

[proven sundial]

Somebody else had the exact same issue you'll have to try it another day for them it worked after

[spiral mulch]

every time i'm starting the game it just don't conmsider that i have set the audio at 0 and feels like 10, and i need to go in setting and go from 0 to 1 and the audio now is will reset

[sacred yoke]

Day 5 of trying

Guess ill look at it every day to see if it works. Hopeing I wake up and there is a zipline inside lol

[proven sundial]

Best to report it then to customer service

[sacred yoke]

Done also. Day 3 of no responce lol

[proven sundial]

Alright then hahaha

You did what you could

[sacred yoke]

Someone suggested I put a 1 star review online for the game. Might get more traction lol

[proven sundial]

That's not really going to solve anything 😂

[sacred yoke]

I agree, so I haven't

[sonic salmon]

Check if there are any gpu updates or do a clean installation

[rapid tendon]

Just actually updated my intel cpu stuff, I’ll check the gpu thanks

[proven sundial]

Whoever has an intel cpu

[rapid tendon]

I just got prefired huh

[sonic salmon]

Nice

[proven sundial]

If you have 10th gen intel cpu or older

Inspectre will free up 20 percent performance

[rapid tendon]

I have an 11th gen

[proven sundial]

Lol well not for you then

But just putting it here

[rapid tendon]

Phew 🙏

[sonic salmon]

What type of steps you have already taken as of now ?

[rapid tendon]

Nah just checking

Didn’t know wether higher meant older

[sacred yoke]

Tried support, tried here, posted on facebook page. Gone back everyday throwing nades for 20-30 mins. Not sure what else I can do

[lunar sequoia]

starege

sir what

spectre and meltdown are sidechannels that can theoretically be performed from inside web sandbox

[sonic salmon]

Game file verification
Complete reinstallation
or new account

[rigid obsidian]

hey. this morning the game started doing something weird for me (it was playing fine last night). I've closed all other programs but after some random amount of time, the game's RAM usage just suddenly plateaus and doesn't come back down, and it becomes unplayable until I restart it. any ideas?

[proven sundial]

On windows cpu's are secured already it's just the redundant code that gets disabled

[lunar sequoia]

no they are not

[marsh plaza]

Sadly, I guess I am Sol until they either do a patch to fix this and I’m missing out on my dailies and my sign in events because of this….

[sweet osprey]

Can someone explain to me why my arknights is constantly crashing?

[lunar sequoia]

microcode updates are not sufficient to patch spectre and meltdown

[proven sundial]

Well nothing to do about it then we tried

[proven sundial]

Well i'm taking the risk anyway

[rigid obsidian]

anyone know if an update was pushed last night or something? RAM usage is suddenly out of the ordinary this morning

[sonic salmon]

Verify your game files first. When this happens again take screenshot of Taskbar where it shows list all apps using memory and make sure if its ark or smtg else. Play other games and check if this happens there too or only with this game.

And even after verifying, if this keep happens again, its best to reach out to Customer support.

[proven sundial]

My other 10900k is running 30 percent faster without meltdown and spectre

I'm not missing out on performance

[sonic salmon]

device ?

[lunar sequoia]

that's complete bogus

[proven sundial]

Not bogus

I tested it again and again

[lunar sequoia]

retropoline is one pipeline flush per return

one pipeline flush is 12 cycles on 10th gen

unless the system calls you're doing are 4 instructions long it will barely matter

[sweet osprey]

Nvm I just needed to restart the game a solid 3 times

[sonic salmon]

haha ok ok

[willow pewter]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThf1hUD1/

[sonic salmon]

not here

[willow pewter]

Where

[proven sundial]

Well regardless of that tell me why a 10900k increases from 130 fps to 169 when i disable it

[sonic salmon]

why tiktok link in #tech-support

[willow pewter]

Is there a channel to upload videos?

[proven sundial]

👀

There's no reason to not disable it on my end

[proper pelican]

May I introduce you to: security

[edgy plume]

Proof of problem

[sonic salmon]

Umm im not sure abt that.

[willow pewter]

I looked, but I don't think there is one

[sonic salmon]

there isnt any self promotion channel

[proven sundial]

I know about security but i am just extracting max performance regardless of risk

[sonic salmon]

If its abt game video or ss then #scenery-captures
if its meme or tiktok, Idk

[latent remnant]

yeah, did a full uninstall and cleanup; game, gryphlink launcher, all gone.
even restarted my pc AND turned it off and on again, tried to launch both in vulkan and directx11.
even now it refuses to work.
very sad indeed

[willow pewter]

Oka

[marsh plaza]

Yeah, just another game for me to throw in the trash because I hate starting things and then not being able to do what I want to do

[lunar sequoia]

just in case you weren't aware there is no reported significant perf loss on 10th gen for enabling spectre and meltdown, it's almost certainly entirely placebo
intel themselves reported that 8th gen, the worst hit, has a 10% hit in syscall heavy tasks

but that is because to mitigate 8th gen needs to flush almost entire dcache at syscall boundaries

[proven sundial]

I get it well you have tried every single thing to no avail

[proven sundial]

This is not placebo my friend

I can tell you the number without it and with it

I am not losing performance on a system

[lunar sequoia]

i am well aware how the cpu works and getting +30% from disabling spectre and meltdown is not how it works

[proven sundial]

I understand that you know how it works

But whatever they did with those patches

If screwed over many older gen intel cpus

I know it is security related

But i still choose to risk it

Get the fuck out of here idiot

[lunar sequoia]

risking it yourself knowing the risks is not the same as telling someone to just disable spectre and meltdown without mentioning any of it, but i digress

[lunar sequoia]

as i was saying it's one dcache flush, there is no world in which a dcache flush is 30% of a syscall's overhead

[marsh plaza]

Last resort was sending them a an email and maybe somebody from customer support can help or maybe that those seeing my ticket and maybe they can see if some thing broke on their end

[proven sundial]

Yeah i get it it's not supposed to be such a huge difference

[night summit]

Is there a bug report channel? there are some chinese voicelines in this scene even tho JP is selected

[proven sundial]

Characters will speak their own language in some scenes

[night summit]

it's more like the robotic sound thing that activates here

[lunar sequoia]

not a single syscall has such a huge overhead, you literally cannot get 30% out something that doesn't have 30% to give

just sounds like a system restart got rid of whatever junk windows was running in the background

[daring lark]

Should fix the anti-cheat, its mess up my Space Marine 2 anti cheat ( they using the same anti cheat), once i delete anti cheat expert from the Arknights folders i can now launch Space Marine 2, fix it

[rigid obsidian]

Something I've observed (like I said, it just started this morning, and still happens after I restarted my PC and checked game file integrity) is that the RAM only seems to spike after some random amount of time if Discord is open. And yes it's Arknights doing it (even tho Discord send to trigger it), the game quickly shoots up from 3GB used to 20GB used and my system starts thrashing. I've also disabled overlays thinking that was it but no dice

[proven sundial]

Weird for sure well worth reporting then if it is unintended

[heavy scroll]

I need help😭😭

[rigid obsidian]

Bring bottles

[heavy scroll]

😭😭 i don’t have any

[odd fossil]

Any chance they would be able to make it so you can open the map while on zipline? Would be amazing!!! 🙌

[proven sundial]

Definitely a multi factor thing then just odd that it increases so much then

[plain gazelle]

For some reason I can't take this one. Anyone have a solution?

[proven sundial]

Backpack is not full ? Did you relog

[lunar sequoia]

the drivers should be compatible, hasn't changed in a while, although perhaps arknights has modified drv that makes it not compatible

[plain gazelle]

Its not and I just relogged now i can take that one but now another is stuck..

[proven sundial]

Weird

[robust delta]

For some reason in Tianjing courtyard there is a gap in the water and you can go below the water.

[plain gazelle]

it is fixed at 9th relog lol

[jaunty knot]

there's a few other places where the collisions for stuff don't exactly cover the accessible space

[proven sundial]

Well that works

Stupid as it is

[jaunty knot]

for example you can just jump across this puddle, but it doesn't really give you anything

[robust delta]

well i guess as long as nothing breaks its fine

[ember igloo]

posting for someone else, they have good hardware (4070 ti or something iirc)
they've been plagued with pixelated graphics and it affects their experience. any recommendations or is this a common issue at the moment?

[jaunty knot]

i think at this point pixelated backgrounds in cutscenes should be a known bug

idk what triggers it but i've seen it multiple times and i've heard people talking about it already

[proven sundial]

it's a depth of field issue no fix as of yet so nothing to worry about

[ember igloo]

hopefully improved in future patches then if there's no known solution. i haven't had the problem myself thankfully

[short ridge]

shiii i am getting the memory managment 0x1a error

[jaunty knot]

how tf do you even mess up depth of field like that, it's one of the simplest effects to implement

[proven sundial]

is that not the issue where ram is faulty could also be conflicting software

[proven sundial]

i don't know as a former nox developer

[short ridge]

hm, i installed a jdk-windows64 for eclipse today, and i dont think i have done anythin else

[proven sundial]

That should not cause any issues

memory is at stock speeds

or xmp ?

[short ridge]

holy shit why the fuck am i sitting on 5gb ram usage when i only have discord open

naw this is something else

[short ridge]

should be stock, i never tampered with it

what the fuck dude

[proven sundial]

just windows and discord ?

[short ridge]

rn i only have discord and task manager open

and ram usage is on 4.9gb

lol

[proven sundial]

seems about normal to me

looking on my end

[slender mantle]

Check the startup apps tab

[short ridge]

for windows yes but its still too much

i only have 16gb

its using 1/3 on idle

[short ridge]

startup apps i have disablem pretty much everything aside discord

its the background processes

does the chris titus method still work

[proven sundial]

oh that guy

yeah it still works

[slender mantle]

5gb at idle looks normal to me

[hollow lion]

3-4 P-cores hitting 96+ degs simultaneously often and always a few red despite minimal settings. Going back to DirectX 11 now that I've confirmed problem still happens on minimal settings

[proven sundial]

yeah that's definitely not good

no need to kill that cpu

you have reported it right ?

[hollow lion]

Nah, pretty sure others did enmasse already

[proven sundial]

another one never hurts

the more pressure the better

[steep furnace]

i just had this problem occur while i was afk for 30 minutes, after 30 minutes of playing, proving that it has nothing to do with what you're actually doing in the game, and is based on how long you've had the program open

i was literally afk (actually away from the computer, with no other programs open) in some warehouse that isn't graphically intensive at all

[hollow lion]

And DirectX 11 crashes the game for me

Just happened while I was running across a map, RIP

So far it's as if I should just crank things to max and schedule game restarts every 30m or 1h. Then I can enjoy better graphics

[steep furnace]

maybe this game starts mining bitcoin once you hit the 1 hour mark

[hollow lion]

I should level 1 character to 80 or 90 to experience the costs

[proven sundial]

it does not i can assure you

[short ridge]

this is fine right

[copper harbor]

looks like the AA is stacking on top the depth of view

[proven sundial]

looks alright for sure game will at max use 6GB of ram

[jaunty knot]

yeah i suspect something with TAA and/or resolution scaling

[steep furnace]

if that were the case, your cpu would start overheating upon first logging into the game. this problem routinely only kicks in after roughly an hour of playing

[proven sundial]

i played the game for 5 hours straight yesterday

[steep furnace]

did you check your temps at any point?

or just listen to your fan?

[proven sundial]

look right here

and temps were only 75

at max

[steep furnace]

yeah, that's the problem

[proven sundial]

i have 24 cores running

[steep furnace]

my temp maxes out at like 70 too, when it starts hitting this problem. but normally it runs at like 30-40 before the bug kicks in

[proven sundial]

so for me that is pretty normal

[steep furnace]

the point is that around the hour-played mark, your cpu usage doubles

for no reason at all

has nothing to do with what's taking place in the game

[proven sundial]

yeah that is a fact for a lot of the people i know that

but for me it never happens

i cannot replicate it

[sand willow]

anyone else having server issues? it won't let me log in

[jaunty knot]

is that cpu thing gc-related and only happens to people with small amounts of ram?

[proven sundial]

that cpu thing is not gc-related

[naive fractal]

On my case I'm having High MS out of the blue, I'm between 350 to 999..

When hours ago i was between 145 and 250

[proven sundial]

the only thing i see coming up a lot is 3 cores being heavily hammered on a lot of systems

causing overheating or the system becoming unstable

to me it looks like there is a threading issue

[short ridge]

that could be for all sorts of reasons

virtual memory usage, cpu overheating

the game might be trying to even clean up cashe files it collected during that hour all at once

which is a poor choice of engine design but

whatevs

it may be that after an hour of playtime some sort of anticircus scan or a windows update checker triggers and thats why

have you verified all these

[proven sundial]

what i think is happening is cpu instructions in duplication being sent

[jaunty knot]

anticircus is the best name for ms defender i've heard so far

[short ridge]

it was not intentional

[jaunty knot]

yeah but it was very funny

[short ridge]

ima change it back to that

[proven sundial]

i really love how detailed the game looks

[jaunty knot]

please read the "Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer’s Manual" before making ridiculously wrong statements about how cpus work

[proven sundial]

it happened in mass effect andromeda

developers even showed it happened

same kind of thing here

[sand willow]

ah yes, very helpful, now I know why the game doesn't work

[proven sundial]

besides i am on a threadripper cpu

it does not affect me

for some reason

[proven sundial]

server issues ?

[sand willow]

I guess

servers have been very bad for me sadly

[wheat turtle]

u could try vpn

[sand willow]

I'm on PS5

[wheat turtle]

ah well

[proven sundial]

cable wifi ?

[sand willow]

its not my connection

is the game

[proven sundial]

yeah but you can try both options

[wheat turtle]

im not the only one who is affected by this right?

[agile quartz]

i thinkgame need optimisation

[proven sundial]

not the only one multiple people have the issue

[sand willow]

same servers for both eu and na is a choice

[proven sundial]

this is mine in comparison

[wheat turtle]

amd?

[proven sundial]

yes a threadripper

[wheat turtle]

nice

[proven sundial]

but still cpu load should be more balanced

[wheat turtle]

ye

its like ram leek but cpu mode

funny thing that my game performance dont drop at all even tho hits 100% on my P cores

[proven sundial]

well i hope it is not overheating

that is the main concern

[wheat turtle]

nah bro i undervolted it to the roof

lemme show my temps

if i run stock still hits 100c cuz ya know what intel did

[lunar sequoia]

please read “AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual, Volumes 1-5” before making any more statements about cpus thanks

[proven sundial]

i will thanks

but i will come back on my statement then

and reinforce it with proof

[hidden knoll]

good luck, it's like tens of thousands of pages of cpu manpages

[jaunty knot]

okay we're waiting

[proven sundial]

no problem i have the time

time is money

i will find exactly what i meant

[hidden knoll]

probably nothing meaningful

[proven sundial]

mhm

i will find it i promise you

[lunar sequoia]

don't worry, alternatively you can also read the "Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer’s Manual Combined Volumes: 1, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 3A, 3B, 3C, 3D, and 4" which is 5252 pages

[proven sundial]

why not

seems interesting

[jaunty knot]

and that still has undocumented stuff

[hidden knoll]

while I'm at it I might also read AMD RDNA 1-2-3-4 Instruction Set Architecture Reference Guide

just to also get a grip on modern GPU architecture you know

which also still has undocumented stuff

[lunar sequoia]

don't worry, that's because you also need to read the manual for the cpu of your choice which is probably another 2000 pages of MSR listings and other stuff specific to said cpu

[hidden knoll]

why not also read the entire UEFI, USB and PCI specs so that you know which control registers to poke to boot/get to your peripherals/communicate with external hardware

[proven sundial]

how about we just read a book

[jaunty knot]

documentation is a book

[hidden knoll]

some would argue those are books

extremely boring and stale books, but books nonetheless

[jaunty knot]

physical documentation books are sometimes useful too

[proven sundial]

anyway what i meant i already found

same behavior

[jaunty knot]

please share then

[hidden knoll]

do share

[proven sundial]

So pretty much what i mean is an infinite loop instruction that pretty much get repeated to no end causing a CPU to consume maximum resources (often 98-100% of a core) because the loop's terminating condition is never met

same thing happened in mass effect andromeda

where the cpu just overheated

[toxic atlas]

for some a bit less technical people, practically a zip bomb for your CPU instead of storage

[hidden knoll]

while there is no "infinite loop instruction" in the cpu, an actual infinite loop might be the cause tbh, you we don't know

[proven sundial]

well regardless of that i assume that is what is happeing

since i saw the same pattern

[hidden knoll]

the anticheat could be just trying to poke the same thing over and over again and never getting it done

[jaunty knot]

me when ⁨jmp $⁩

[proven sundial]

we call it code duplication at my work

[hidden knoll]

⁨⁨x86asm mov rcx, -1 next: loop next⁩⁩

[proven sundial]

keeps it simple

well there we have it anyway

code duplication in short

atleast for us here

in belgium

[lunar sequoia]

what

am

i

reading

[hidden knoll]

wym code duplication bro

this is an infinite loop

[toxic atlas]

#tech-support became ⁨#tech-lowlevel-talk⁩

[proven sundial]

we just call it that

keeps it simple

[hidden knoll]

idk how that's simpler

[proven sundial]

not the whole technical bonanza

but yeah it's just a term

[lunar sequoia]

code duplications is not even close to being related to an infinite loop

two entirely different class of problems

[proven sundial]

it's just a term we use here not a general statement

[hidden knoll]

in my book code duplication is not a problem, that's just inlining

hell yeah for inlining

[lunar sequoia]

well i can cause infinite code duplication by just copy pasting [insert enormous function] into each source file i write

[hidden knoll]

fake

linux can only load 64GiB binaries (I think, not actually sure about the limit)

On windows that's even lower, PE64 is only 4GiB

[lunar sequoia]

windows limit is 4 because PE's header runs out of space xdd

[proven sundial]

we also have a stupid statement here

we call it kernel exploder

[lunar sequoia]

I don't think elf itself has a hard limit, but at some point it's so huge you don't have enough virtual memory to map the file

although even before then you'd probably hit a limit on how big of a file ext4 can even store

[hidden knoll]

yea, I think I saw someone do the funny thing about checking for even numbers with an infinite list of if statements but they hit Window's 4 GiB limit for executables

I was just screaming "pls just use elf man, use linux"

[proper pelican]

Each elf section has a 64 bit size field iirc xdd

so that would be the limit

[lunar sequoia]

well your cpu's virtual bus width is almost certainly 56 bits so...

[proper pelican]

you can have more sections tho, so the limit is very very big

[hidden knoll]

⁨```cpp
Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 19.32.31329 for x64
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

program.c
program.c(134397076): warning C4049: compiler limit: terminating line number emission
program.c(134397076): note: Compiler limit for line number is 16777215
program.c(41133672): fatal error C1060: compiler is out of heap space

can't handle 16 million loc source files

[dull sleet]

How do you report bugs to the devs?

[hidden knoll]

#1461653979862925498 tag bug

[proper pelican]

Shout here and hope?

[hidden knoll]

or through email

[molten oar]

i'm always excited to try new game that just got released but i'd never face anything as worse as this that won't let player play the game this long... even wuwa early released got patch as soon to avoid more problems

[proven sundial]

it's quite the mess with so many systems but that's just pc for you

So many configurations

[jaunty knot]

if one person out of millions of players says the game doesn't work, that's a pretty good indication of a problem with their system and not the game

[hidden knoll]

to be completely honest the devs broke a fundamental rule in software engineering

they pushed a patch on friday

you never push a patch on friday

[jaunty knot]

you do

to watch the fireworks

[lunar sequoia]

never push anything to prod on fridays

[hidden knoll]

[lunar sequoia]

unless the game is genshin impact

then it's my problem

[delicate gulch]

hello i cant get done this misions i dont know if its a bug or i dont know how to read

[proven sundial]

you mean genshit impact ?

[peak sierra]

endfield recently got an issues gacha it seems
> open endfield
> -15fps compared to previous run
> reboot pc
> open endfield
> stutters when turning the camera
> reboot pc
> open endfield
> 8gb swap usage

[jaunty knot]

play for 2h: 8gb vram usage

[peak sierra]

unified memory architecture, my vram issues are automatically converted into ram issues

[jaunty knot]

put textures into a swapfile on a hdd, got it

[lunar sequoia]

some people box generated a diagnosis and blamed it on ACE (acewatcher report is no ace update)

[peak sierra]

i can tell with great certainty it is not ace :xdd:

[proven sundial]

great more problems

[peak sierra]

am i the problem?

[proven sundial]

nope

[lunar sequoia]

tbh i have a feeling it's another wine edge case, we seem to be hitting a lot of them recently

[peak sierra]

i doubt that

[jaunty knot]

windows people also have issues

[lunar sequoia]

nvm then

[proven sundial]

Windows / CachyOs / and cryonix have issues with this game

and well other linux distros

[peak sierra]

no i'm pretty sure its just everywhere

[hidden knoll]

the only problem I had today was that QtWebEngine.dll was leaking so much ram my windows pagefile reached 60GB

[peak sierra]

launcher issue probably

[hidden knoll]

classic Qt experience

[raw zodiac]

game is using 70% cpu and sitting at 80c, i have good fan setup etc, dont have this problem in other games, anyone knows how to reduce it

[peak sierra]

just make a shortcut to Endfield.exe

[hidden knoll]

imagine using Qt in the big 26

[peak sierra]

and only use launcher for updates

[peak sierra]

qtwebengine is chromium

also qt is good

[hidden knoll]

I wish we could go back to actual UIs instead of embedding chromium into literally everything

[lunar sequoia]

i'd send the everything is chromium meme but i don't seem to have it on hand somehow

[jaunty knot]

agt is better

[hidden knoll]

do you have quicksearch installed on your system

search for libcef.dll in all your drives

watch the list grow

[toxic atlas]

like, the best desktop experience on linux is qt-based

[hidden knoll]

I currently have 200 copies of libcef.dll

[lunar sequoia]

if it wasn't for the fact that probably 90% of dw dev team in this server i would have said nobody knows the reference xdx

[proven sundial]

sorry to say but the game has this general issue on windows where 3 cores are being heavily hammered

[hidden knoll]

20 gb of storage wasted just to store 200 copies of libcef.dll

[jaunty knot]

omw to search through 20TB

[hidden knoll]

10TB will be just copies of libcef.dll

[peak sierra]

i probably have very few libcef copies

gryphlink launcher is like the only webapp i have, and also the like 3 gachas with web ui i have installed (without launcher)

and thats it

[toxic atlas]

it is currently 3 AM and i forgot to put my user in wheel when flashing a raspi
FML

[lunar sequoia]

i have 970TB to search through
I had to cannibalize 120TB of seagate ironwolf 14TBs from homelab because procurement couldn't get enough xdx

[hidden knoll]

hate this so much

[lunar sequoia]

the're probably all different versions so you can't even link them to one main copy

[peak sierra]

oh i have dna

[hidden knoll]

yea

[lunar sequoia]

but how did tech support turn into tech talk

[peak sierra]

why in the hell does dna ship 4 libcefs

[jaunty knot]

so the launcher is an unreal engine app, and the launcher updater is another unreal engine app

[peak sierra]

why do i even have dna, it doesnt even launch for me

[toxic atlas]

dropped it when they updated the game to 1.1 and silently added ACE

[lunar sequoia]

i have a dna symbols file from jan 1 26 xdd

[peak sierra]

eh ace isnt the biggest issue with that game

[jaunty knot]

which changed almost nothing
other than a few hours of our time to get it working on linux

[peak sierra]

for example it somehow magically doesnt work if it's not in the c: drive

[lunar sequoia]

it's 47 GB and i don't even have anything that can read pdbs

[peak sierra]

and also it doesnt work if the path is too long

[toxic atlas]

the fucking controller / keyboard switching was so damn buggy

i tried to like it, the story was good

[hidden knoll]

why would they ship debug symbols even

[toxic atlas]

not to mention controller selections in menus

[peak sierra]

he asked nicely

to fix it on linux

and they gave him the debug symbols

[hidden knoll]

lmao

[keen fable]

Does anyone else have an issue with cpu temps while playing endfield? When i first start off the game is at a normal 60-65c and then as i play it steadily raises higher and higher even hitting 90c. But if i close the game and restart it my temps go back to 60-65c for awhile and then it repeats.

[hidden knoll]

"fuck you, do it yourself"

[peak sierra]

yes everyone

[proven sundial]

bruh customer service just replied to me the exact same thing i mentioned before

[jaunty knot]

just don't be hostile to linux and you'll get an entire community doing tech support and fixing the game for you for free

[keen fable]

okay so long as it's not just me haha

[hidden knoll]

I know some mesa devs that literally do this lol

[lunar sequoia]

and 50k people who use it xdx

[toxic atlas]

and if you're hostile, someone will be spiteful enough to make your shit work anyway on linux

[hidden knoll]

they end up rewriting entire shaders because they are garbage

[peak sierra]

if they're hostile enough there won't be

[jaunty knot]

especially if you use ACE

[peak sierra]

mr epic exploded so hard over fortnite on linux no one is going to try anymore

[hidden knoll]

spite is the most powerful thing in the linux community tbh

"there is no way for this to work on linux stop trying"
"bet"

[lunar sequoia]

oh btw i checked bunny cdn, we can get discounted rates at... 2PB+

[jaunty knot]

monthly?

[toxic atlas]

Stealth VM joining the conversation
(still waiting for the damn patches in libvirt to be upstreamed so i can have shared vulkan to VM through venus)

[lunar sequoia]

i think so

[peak sierra]

welp that's not on linux

[jaunty knot]

okay chat we need about 200 endfield releases per month of traffic

[lunar sequoia]

however past 150TB they tell you to contact sales anyway

[jaunty knot]

at that point i think selfhosting a cdn is cheaper

[toxic atlas]

also if it wasn't known already
they do the WuWa & DNA shit
they detect SteamDeck hardware and disable ACE if found

so the Deck can just use GE

[peak sierra]

that is hardcoded into ace

there is no config option to turn it off

[toxic atlas]

huh? straight into ACE?

[lunar sequoia]

yes mkrsym is the one who found the disable ACE check, it works for 1/3 steamdecks on average

[peak sierra]

yes

[jaunty knot]

amd custom apu 0405 my beloved

[toxic atlas]

lmao what the fuck

[peak sierra]

thankfully the rest of ace is linux friendly too

it just doesnt disable itself if it's not a steam deck

but it doesnt have any anti-linux

so on dwproton it simply just works, it can even detect your cheats

[jaunty knot]

ace doesn't even care if half of it explodes

[lunar sequoia]

well i'm trying to figure out how to fool geolocators to stop putting tarpit on top of my house, and then i will happily provide 750gbps hosting xdx

[toxic atlas]

hey, it can be sandboxed in the wine prefix with the game without touching the rest of the system (in a flatpak), works for me

[proven sundial]

devs have just confirmed the cpu shit is happening to their pc's aswell GREAT

[peak sierra]

eh it's not evil

it doesnt care about your system

it barely even works

[lunar sequoia]

it cares if your clock suddenly moves by 6.5ms xdd

[toxic atlas]

i had a few detections if steam hooked the overlay into the game, it at least does something

[peak sierra]

yes

[peak sierra]

uhhh that is questionable but possible in theory if steam injected a dll

it does not care about linux injections

i think

[lunar sequoia]

oh right what is upstream kernel on now? are we rc8 yet

[peak sierra]

it may have something for vulkan

i wanted to play endfield today, but instead i spent the entire day fixing the winewayland ime issue where you can't hold buttons

[toxic atlas]

6.19-rc8 (3h ago)

[lunar sequoia]

ok time to submit boottime raw

UAPI guys are going to hate me for ccing like half of lkml in 3 emails

[rapid adder]

Any of u guys having a problem those last few days? My CPU usage and Memory grown a lot the more i play. Only exiting the game and opening it again fixes it

[peak sierra]

yes everyone

[jaunty knot]

ah yes it found my 7 copies of wuwa

[toxic atlas]

the memleak has been quite hard to identify
for some people it's DLSS
for others it's DX11
some need a chipset driver update
and others just live with it

[peak sierra]

i have none of that enabled and still have it

[proven sundial]

yeah i just got a reply from the customer service #tech-support message

[toxic atlas]

i never had it
and i'm also on linux

game chills at 10gb ram or less, averaging at ~7-8

[peak sierra]

that is a tremendous amount of ram to "chill" at

[twin wigeon]

When I try to log into my account on mobile I get this error message

[proper pelican]

Not for modern games

[peak sierra]

i think i have less actually

[toxic atlas]

a fun thing i've found
if i systemd-run that shit instead with a cpu core limit of 200% (2 threads), game ram usage goes down to 4-5gb

[jaunty knot]

might be worth playing around with wine cpu topology then

[peak sierra]

what could that issue even be then? thread local storage? that doesnt sound right

[lunar sequoia]

don’t worry, i have such amazing game currently loaded as 24GB of vram for high 4k + 17GB ram + 12 fps gameplay

[peak sierra]

maybe its just slower so it doesnt leak as fast

[hidden knoll]

tls sounds plausible

[toxic atlas]

24gb vram

[hidden knoll]

in my game I mmap 1GB per thread lmao

[toxic atlas]

i just got the 9070xt a few months ago with 16

[peak sierra]

meanwhile me with a 780M integrated gpu

[proven sundial]

7900 xtx here

i do love me some radeon cards

[rapid adder]

Oh, what did they say?

[jaunty knot]

the game can run just fine with 4gb

[toxic atlas]

hey, it's a good iGPU to have

[peak sierra]

isnt that the person who was saying ridiculous things about how they dont understand how cpus work

[toxic atlas]

all-low i assume?

[proven sundial]

look at the link

[rapid adder]

Im thinking this is some issue with a recent update, because otherwise the game runs super smooth

[jaunty knot]

lol no, every setting at max

1080p120fps

[rapid adder]

Hum?

[rapid adder]

Ohh

[toxic atlas]

that's quite interesting
i'm also maxed out, 1080p 120
game starts with a bit over 5gb usage, grows to 6-7, then usually stays around there

[hidden knoll]

how much vm does it commit for you

[toxic atlas]

the VRAM usage is criminal though, 8-10gb depending on area

[hidden knoll]

endfield also only has a working set of 4GB but it reserves 10GB of VM lol

[rapid adder]

Did you start having this problem recently as well? things were fine here like 2 days ago i think

[peak sierra]

look at chromium

chromium maps 2tb virtual memory

[proven sundial]

only on windows i seem to have the issue

[jaunty knot]

i'm on linux so it's not going to be the same, game uses 24.5GB of virtual memory and it almost never changes

[proven sundial]

not on CachyOs or cryonix

[true drum]

xdd

[rapid adder]

I see...

[peak sierra]

what is a cryonix

[hidden knoll]

chromium is special like that

[jaunty knot]

virtual memory doesn't really matter on linux though, discord client has a nice 1416GB

[proven sundial]

Cryonix is just a little linux client specific for games

[peak sierra]

what is a linux client

[raven herald]

Hey, for the last 2-3 days did for anyoen the game start to randomly freeze both the client and the game? I am on linux and it ran flawlessly before

[hidden knoll]

tbf I also mmap like 1GB per thread usually but what the fuck do you mean 1416GB 😭

[peak sierra]

chromium moment

[rapid adder]

Yes, the game

[peak sierra]

thats for everyone, windows too

[rapid adder]

Im guessing its a recent update thing

[raven herald]

Huh

do they have a memory leak?

[jaunty knot]

that's just electron

[rapid adder]

I think so, yea

[lunar sequoia]

oh literally entire dw dev team in here now xdd

[peak sierra]

accidental raid again

[raven herald]

i assume they already know of it and are working on it?

[hidden knoll]

what are y'all developing

[peak sierra]

dwproton

[hidden knoll]

pog