theorycrafting

[dusk isle]

fund me p3 tt

[edgy elk]

fund me p1 tt

[dusk isle]

consider yourself funded

[modest maple]

Good evening, has anyone encountered this before? Could this be a bug?

[tall swift]

this entire video is cursed and you clearly don't know how to artifice

it's not guaranteed chance to increase stat

it's a chance, and your pity counter went up by 1 from 1/6 to 2/6

using xiranflow to artifice xiranflow is far more expensive than using other gears

[modest maple]

Thanks for info

[tall swift]

you can use this, it'll tell you which armors are good for using

https://endfieldtools.dev/gear-artificing-solver/

[tight haven]

oh dear lord that hurt my soul

please do not use hetonite gear to artifice

[frozen tide]

I mean

Your factory will always overproduce if using everything

If you have a big enough reservoir of stuff to sell

I suppose you can

[main nova]

critfishing is real

[frozen tide]

Crihfihshing

[edgy elk]

fihfihfihfih

[outer ermine]

fish

[merry kite]

how would you make a defender kit

[edgy elk]

apply protection
give shield
parry and do X
heal

is defender rn

but please make them more interesting
i think HG wanted a class that has back-and-forth interplay with enemy actions but ended up with, "get hit and do X"

ur making a fankit right

[merry kite]

not rn, just thinking of ideas

[edgy crater]

just give defender a way to counter environment damage

[merry kite]

yeah, i'm just wondering what kind of interplay can be

[dry kindle]

Hoshi alt

[bold rose]

can you force avywenna in the 4th slot of zfy arc per

[fringe dirge]

I'm trying to squeeze out more damage with Da Pan Crush.
I got Ardelia with 20% susceptibility holding Stanza for 16% ATK, and Xiranite for 16% DMG
I got Pog with max Arts Intensity holding Thermite Cutter for 18% ATk
Idk what's better in the last slot tho?
Lifeng for 12% physical susceptibility, or Rossi for 12% increased physical damage taken?

My Da Pan is almost as maxed as he can be...
M3 on combo skill, Max Essence on Exemplar
I'm using Aethertech Body and Swordmancer Gloves (Str Will Arts Intensity)
Both of these are fully artificed.
I got the Aethertech Stabilizers artificed for arts intensity. All I'm missing is 12 strength from the str substat

I kinda wanted to wait until there was an Aethertech Stabilizer that actually gave Strength Mainstat

Hmm
I could also use Endmin Combo skill for 20% DMG

Idk which of those 3 will let me get the highest damage number on Da Pan's crush tho

Also do I use Ginseng Meat Stew or Jakub's legacy?

[unborn panther]

Ginseng for the crit side of it

Also yes Ardelia with Stanza, Pog max asi with thermite, & Lifeng is stronger here

Just run Swordmancer Lifeng with no weapon for stagger as well

[fringe dirge]

Unfortunately even with all that I'm just shy of hitting 1.4Mil

[unborn panther]

Hmm

[fringe dirge]

I saw someone instakill Rodagn by hitting 1.4mil

[unborn panther]

Oh I see

Are u p0 exemplar btw?

[fringe dirge]

Oh, yeah

Maybe they had more pots on Exemplar

[unborn panther]

Yeah p5 I reached 1.7m, really more like 1.8 to 1.9 as only saw first part as mr fatso died due to no HP

However I feel like you can get higher, I just dont know how tbf even if p0 or p5, gotta be more ways

[fringe dirge]

I feel like I'm using all the buffs possible

Tho, have you tried with Endmin?

[unborn panther]

I have not as I don't have him built/done, if you do try it, I'd love to see the results if possible ofc

[fringe dirge]

You don't need any stats on them, you're just using for their Talent 2

[unborn panther]

Oh?

Oh right the +15% attack buff for 15 seconds

[fringe dirge]

Enemies with attached Originium Crystals suffer 20% Physical damage taken

[unborn panther]

That too yeah

The timing though would have to be so precise

[fringe dirge]

That's bigger than a Lifeng 12% susceptibility

[unborn panther]

Correct however 4 second window

[fringe dirge]

Not just that, you also have to somehow align the combo skill trigger

Because the crystals are consumed when you use a vuln app

[unborn panther]

I kinda know somewhat about the crystals not fully though, if you can find the timing for it that would be cool

[fringe dirge]

I don't think it's possible with the team tho

[unborn panther]

Maybe shatter might be better? Using Da Pan

[fringe dirge]

Cause Ardelia combo trigger only works when there's no vuln, and Endmin combo trigger is only when you use a combo skill

Well, I'll try it out and see

[unborn panther]

Kk

[fringe dirge]

What's rought tho is Lifeng and Rossi build vuln like crazy

Endmin can't

[unborn panther]

Yeah

Wait big brain got an idea over ardelia :<

Rossi with Lifeng?

Those 2 can 100% stack and use Lifeng on Xira for the uge/dmg buff

[fringe dirge]

That just sounds worse, cause Ardelia is 20%, and is a stanza holder

[unborn panther]

As that "damage taken" is seperaate

[unborn panther]

Oh true

Nvm then

[fringe dirge]

I thought about maybe Panda Pog Estella Alesh

Alesh can hold Thermite while Pog holds his sig

[unborn panther]

That could work

[fringe dirge]

Alesh provides 15% atk with lucky fin
Estella provides 15% susceptibility which is surprisingly stronger than Lifeng's

[unborn panther]

That 100% is stronger yeah

I'd say give that a go for sure

[fringe dirge]

Ah I see, Lifeng P1 goes to 17% susceptibility

But I do not have, so it's 12%

[unborn panther]

Yep

[fringe dirge]

And Ardelia goes to 28% with P1 👀

I think that's where the missing damage is. Not having P1 on Lifeng and Ardelia

[cold hedge]

The crush dmg with aether tech wouldn't be big as dapan as for now i guess

[unborn panther]

[potent hornet]

jesus, 7 hours, got the jail boss down

iykyk

[edgy elk]

@dusk isle alesh 1.3m
-# || u found sln's fw tag 🎣 ||

[outer ermine]

somnio jumpscare

that was nice dmg ngl

[sacred thicket]

dayum 1.3m

[outer ermine]

forgor abt that below 50

[gaunt mason]

fih

[edgy elk]

🐟 🐡 🐠 🐬 🐳

[edgy elk]

hifu ult swipe is now my muscle memory

[outer ermine]

just need multi cs tap and mobile can catch up

and toggle for skills to stay up out of combat

[edgy elk]

this, was a nightmare, when i was still doing backstab

[outer ermine]

its horrible w estella on bs start

[edgy elk]

-# reset -> press the buttons rly fast before they disappear

u gotta catch the buttons by surprise

[honest onyx]

are the enemies load fast in your stages?

when i'm doing combat stages that has timer, the enemy takes long to load in

that's why the timer just runs without me not doing anything

[fringe dirge]

Everyone called me stupid for building Ult damage Alesh

I think they just can't read kits

Damn I have the same Alesh build, I just need to max my Thermite

[edgy elk]

it takes a special kind of 1-minute rotation to make ult damage alesh worthwhile

that gear's fun but i doubt it's gonna see usage in any legit rotation

[fringe dirge]

Do you have any pots on TT or Gilb?

[edgy elk]

nope

all p0

stanza p5

[fringe dirge]

TT sig?

[edgy elk]

p0

i sheeted for deto p0 xai, it's 1.2M

but i cheated and went with my chiv p4

[fringe dirge]

I got p0 Gilb Sig, is p5 stanza better

[edgy elk]

yeah

sig for uptime but my rotation was damage per screenshot

that's also why xai's on intmaxx and tt on xiranite

she still deals too much tho, so that's not ginseng on her, it's fortifying infusion 🫠

TT's just there to get him below 50%, i dont want her to solo rho all by herself

[fringe dirge]

Huh I never tried to get below 50% and line it with stun in phase 1.
I actually went Alesh Xaihi Gilb Perlica and slogged it out till phase 2

Horribly long setup, also getting 4 stacks of vuln for Gilb

[edgy elk]

i couldve either gone with vul2/corro3 or vul1/corro4
no surprise corro is soooo much better than measley 3% suscep

[fringe dirge]

Solo Gilb vuln stacking sucks, especially since my reaction trigger was perlica
I had to line up final strike with the end of the cooldown or I loose all stacks

[edgy elk]

qingbo gil

i use qingbo gil + cs food to get her cs back near the end

[fringe dirge]

I did this before Qingbo existed, that's nice to have now tho

I had to make sure I got enough dodges to scam out the timers through slowdown manipulation

[honest onyx]

people use alesh for sp regen, but you and sin use him for dmg. that's where the deviance goes

[honest onyx]

also, this ^

[edgy elk]

lol i don't
it's just for funzies

aleshlover27

[honest onyx]

you dont use him for dmg?

[fringe dirge]

Imma try to get an Alesh Cosplay done for Otakon

[edgy elk]

-# funnily enough, given enough rerolling, alesh's SP capabilities don't scale with his INT at all

[edgy elk]

i don't even use him in my actual teams

aleshlover27

[honest onyx]

ah, so for challenge and probably simp reasons

[edgy elk]

[fringe dirge]

Oh I actually use him, I played Shatter Physical for the longest time

And I use him on That exact same team you used. It's fun for overworld clear cause Gilb succ and Tang Tang Battle + Shatter is really easy AoE

And an Alesh Ult is just a one button group delete

[outer ermine]

u press the joystick b4 the skill and u just get displaced

[edgy elk]

shuffle shuffle

battle dance

[outer ermine]

maybe fixed w right side who knows

[edgy elk]

just make the joystick smaller

it's not like ur gonna move anw

[fringe dirge]

I only recently got the premium physical team, but tbh I don't like playing that team for anything other than bosses

[honest hill]

Just get whel controller w paddles

[fringe dirge]

It's too slow to set up and has bad AoE

[edgy elk]

hire four people, one to control each operator

[honest hill]

Yeah imma hire @outer ermine

[edgy elk]

hifu, whatever @honest hill is paying, i'll pay double

[honest onyx]

akef co-op, but combo skills is different format

[honest hill]

I'm paying 0 bucks

[fringe dirge]

I saw a clip where a guy got Pog combo skill to pop up before Da Pan's, how is that possible?

[honest onyx]

team lineup?

[honest hill]

Hifumi will pay me

[fringe dirge]

But Da Pan's trigger is having 4 vuln applied, and Pog's is consuming vuln. It doesn't seem possible

In the clip, he timed a pog battle skill to happen the exact moment a vuln was applied

And somehow the vuln was consumed before the Da Pan combo skill went up?

[honest onyx]

dapan cs trigger cd is up, before pog consume vuln?

every cs has cd, so maybe that's why

[fringe dirge]

Nah it was from battle start

Nothing was on cooldown, plus you want to stack 4 vuln, breach, stack 4 vuln, da pan combo

Problem is Da Pan's combo skill popup blocks you from using Pog's combo skill after you apply breach

This was the clip

See how Pog's combo appeared before Da Pan's?

[merry kite]

i think i got an idea

a defender that creates fake/dummy, which will aggro enemies

[dusk isle]

Hifu i got 39s cs connect on nef

[outer ermine]

sub40

[dusk isle]

But my chud ass cannot hit crits

[outer ermine]

does it kill directly or need tt basics

or nado actually

[dusk isle]

It would need tt basic maybe

Or more khra pots

I wont be grinding for sub 40s

[outer ermine]

[dusk isle]

Since it depends on good crits on phase1 as well

[outer ermine]

use my acc when i have ginseng

[dusk isle]

I wonder if all p5p5 can get away with cs3 on phase 2 as well

Being able to skip tt ult would save a few secs

[outer ermine]

do u have enuf for 3 w/o ult

[dusk isle]

Mirage + xai cs + tt bs

[merry kite]

OR
when enemy attacks, freezes them in places (like tt's ult)

[edgy elk]

bro left me on read 💔

as my direct superior u must bear witness to aleshlover27's contributions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1490625654633267312/1501833178774765690/fihh.gif

[dusk isle]

I thought i replied i was sleepy af 💀

[dusk isle]

the fkin mobile ui

[dusk isle]

Oh i did reply but i could only say "where" before falling asleep again

[outer ermine]

oh u can lr 2nd phase start then

free af to ba on tt too

just p5 for the privilege

[merry kite]

can we expect future defenders to have buffs/debuffs in kit

[outer ermine]

nah just atk and def stance, locked by counter

atk stance w hp drain or sum shit and whatever def will do that uses hp lost

[dusk isle]

P5 privilege gets phase 1 consistently way faster than me as well

[edgy elk]

ember already gives +atk%

[dusk isle]

It would just kill on cs connect most likely whereas i need to do another fs with tt

[merry kite]

to herself, not team

[dusk isle]

Imagine 35-36s lr

[edgy elk]

p5

[merry kite]

well, that means buffs/debuffs in defenders aren't unreal

[outer ermine]

oh remind me to remind someone to poach u and sin somewhere

later

[edgy elk]

ah..?

[honest onyx]

poaching like fishing

[edgy elk]

interning for CN whels

[outer ermine]

its just a private server i dont read my pings and ill be busy soon so

just easier

[edgy elk]

oh lol ok

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[honest onyx]

sounds like a "only cool kids" group

[outer ermine]

literally, all cryo

[final plume]

wait am I reading this right
so its better not to trade in the Support Goods so we get extra Wuling Stock Bills and still get Certs by the end of the event?

[swift onyx]

Thats what we've been saying

[edgy elk]

do autotraded gourds count toward trim medal

[swift onyx]

No

[final plume]

but I wonder if that will count to the selling medal
maybe I'll just get the trim medal first just to be safe then I stop selling

[swift onyx]

Cuz its converted not traded

So it doesnt count

So get trim first

[summer narwhal]

SM really worth it?

[drifting quest]

in what respect

[next helm]

If you both like it :^)

[dusk isle]

Is now good for later, or do i wait for more later

[edgy elk]

⏰

[empty dragon]

can anyone share a mountain zipline in marker stone the on near the AIC factory? thanks

[chilly raft]

i really dont get this team

WHY the combo is so damn short

am i missing something

doesnt seem good for roaming

[summer narwhal]

Oh, Pog

[drifting quest]

last rite isnt a great overworld character to begin with, let alone on a subpar team
yvonne is a bit better but still worse than alternatives, again bad team issue

[drifting quest]

yes but compared to what alternative, in what context

[edgy elk]

i don't get this team either

[dusk isle]

Look inside
No synergy
...And fluorite

[edgy elk]

game8's fault probably

[chilly raft]

game8 moment

[edgy elk]

called it

[sturdy hill]

smile

[drifting quest]

it works because the game is so laughably easy

[edgy elk]

somewhat lacking on synergy but hey, "can clear"

[chilly raft]

i rather put gilberta in so she can ground mobs

lmao

[edgy elk]

you have gilberta and you ran..that?

[chilly raft]

i dont know why i got her C2

very funny

[edgy elk]

LR / Yvonne / Xai / Gil actually works pretty well in tailored speedkill runs

but for regular gameplay:
Yvonne / Xai / Gil / Alesh or Perlica
LR / Xai / Perly / Arde or Gil

[sturdy hill]

pot2?

[edgy elk]

gil??

[sturdy hill]

noway

[dusk isle]

[edgy elk]

easy game just got much easier

and instead you went and built fluorite 💀

[chilly raft]

yeah she in fire team rock

clean map in second

maybe i will build the fish dude

[edgy elk]

aleshlover27

[sturdy hill]

27

[chilly raft]

he also eat stack lmao

this is not good

[edgy elk]

just bench his bs

he works with yvonne

[chilly raft]

i need amp

where are ice amp

[edgy elk]

gil+alesh is solid synergy

xai

[drifting quest]

gilb alesh was the previous 'bis' (generic) team pre tt

[chilly raft]

ice team is funny
maybe because i skip the dummy rogue girl

[edgy elk]

oioi i'm 27. u can be 28

[edgy elk]

but turns out dummy rogue girl made it into both cryo teams and also made her own

[chilly raft]

i have to get hit

[edgy elk]

💀

[chilly raft]

to inflict ice

[edgy elk]

in LR's team, it's either TT or LR herself
no sense getting a worse inflictor

[dusk isle]

Atleast he didnt get her to 90 / did masteries

[edgy elk]

if no TT, you'd rather just do ur inflictions from LR bs and xai cs

[chilly raft]

i will build the electro instead

literally every one of them inflict elec

[edgy elk]

💀 cryo loses another one
okay gl

[chilly raft]

i roll yvone cause she hot

i just touched her 2 days ago

[dusk isle]

Interesting choice of words

[outer ermine]

🤝

[chilly raft]

she look like this until 2 days ago

lvl1 nothing ever happened

[edgy elk]

when will they give us a turret that speeds up local SP regen

[chilly raft]

funny how endmin doesnt have turret in kit

literally in the prolog

can he morph rock into something useful

[sturdy hill]

i have lv1 alesh

[chilly raft]

just read her kit
huge nap

[edgy elk]

love knows no bounds

[chilly raft]

she is like
lesser gilberta

[edgy elk]

looks: 2 cryo stacks yay
looks closer: cd 40s, ult cost 90
looks again: no team buffs, no buff-type weapon, cannot proc any buff armor, is supporter

[sturdy hill]

at least i could say this

another 1k+ will

[peak root]

Booo

She sucks

Can’t even support her teammates

[gritty briar]

actually she's a caster

[chilly raft]

electric team like full support bro

why do you need more

[peak root]

I am not serious

[sturdy hill]

caster

look inside: supporter

[edgy elk]

whuuuh a caster who deals no damage/noway

[chilly raft]

no but that is the point
she is dps

you already have handfull support 5*

[edgy elk]

fluo is honorary supporter except she can't support

i guess you can build a rotation around her free stacks
iirc kanos tried making one

[chilly raft]

they should make one more character with "you have to get hit"

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-23345354

hm

let try this team

seem funny enough

[sturdy hill]

hear me out -

[chilly raft]

i have zero big sword 6*

[gritty briar]

no way real people use that weapon

[chilly raft]

wait this guy combo trigger when mobs start cooking

seem good

this is like slap enemies in middle of their transformation

[sturdy hill]

sb would be mad at me

when they see that never rest

[honest onyx]

yep. his cs is good to stop enemies when the red circle appears

[honest onyx]

you have 18+ tag of upper left corner of image

[sturdy hill]

complying with laws

[merry kite]

balls

[sturdy hill]

i could get my hands on akef client from other countries

[edgy elk]

stellion, uh, ... uh...

[dusk isle]

Fangyi decoration

[sturdy hill]

trimmed rhod with it
whats happening?

[edgy elk]

rho would like to know that too

[dusk isle]

I mean all of those characters can trim rhod on their own anyway

[sturdy hill]

ideally its literally functional at 3 ops

[dusk isle]

Maybe not pog

[edgy elk]

even dolly can do it, surely pog can

[dusk isle]

You underestimate dolly

[sturdy hill]

theres nothing wrong

except lifeng and his weirdass uge+ult bonus

hold tfw up

whats the actual pog dps build that allows him to solo

[main nova]

there is one sus

[sturdy hill]

hold up its oldass

its pog ember lifeng fangyi atm

[merry kite]

fangyi wheelchair team?

[outer ermine]

add

[dusk isle]

P sure he is asleep rn

[outer ermine]

[swift onyx]

Pookie..?

[dusk isle]

Your pookie got corrupted

[swift onyx]

[dusk isle]

14 hours of got to his head

[outer ermine]

whys bro charging up im 5s in

[pure spoke]

bout to bust

[dusk isle]

Solo talulah when

[pure spoke]

7.5 anniversary

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-talulah-fire-gif-13380419961741387288

[honest hill]

because you're on the naughty list

[edgy elk]

[lime nacelle]

Good idea? Big damage boost?

I also have Rossi's and Tangtang's BP weapons to consider.

[outer ermine]

💀 i dont type on that ch schling

[frozen tide]

Flicker in mist is second in slot for fangyi but quite a lot worse than signature

Only p5 flicker if you absolutely wont pull her sig

Don't get me wrong fangyi is incredibly strong with it still

[lime nacelle]

I'll just essence it and see how it is at max first I guess.

[frozen tide]

P0 sig vs p5 flicker is approx 15 percent diff

[lime nacelle]

Guess I'll hold on to these.

Still have like 2 months to pull for the sig anyway.

[frozen tide]

Having to budget arsenal pulls does suck

Cause you usually get more chars than sigs

Flicker fangyi will still smurf on content i wouldn't force the sig if you don't want to

[lime nacelle]

Yeh. To make matters worse, I've gotten ULTRA UNLUCKY on all the 3 weapons I've pulled. All of them made me do the full 8 pulls before getting them.

[frozen tide]

I barely had p3 sig by the time i p5ed fangyi

And it took me p0 hard pity and 2 token hard pities to get fangyi p5 so its not like i didn't pull a lot

[lime nacelle]

😭

Getting multiple copies in the game is something else. lol

[frozen tide]

Yeah...

[potent hornet]

haven't had to go to pity for a weapon yet, characters i have more than a couple of times

[lime nacelle]

Guess I got the opposite end of the stick.

Game literally gave me free characters left and right.

I wasn't expecting to get Yvonne. I literally only did the 30+10 pulls for weapon currency.

[potent hornet]

the game force fed me LR

[lime nacelle]

Then same thing on Fangyi banner. Except the game gives me Rossi, Fangyi, and a random Last Rite for free in just 40 pulls.

[potent hornet]

still is

everyone else it has been a bit of a battle

[lime nacelle]

TBH when I think about it, the fact that I was able to go to full pity on weapons and still have 3 of them is not too bad if I think about what it's like on other games.

Considering it's all been for free.

When you say the game force-fed her to you, do you mean you were forced to use her somehow? 😭

[dusk isle]

my steak is too tender and my lobster is too buttery aah

[potent hornet]

no she just kept popping up

i had p5 before yvonne banner

[lime nacelle]

WOWZA!

P5 Last Rite sounds nice. I still haven't built mine.

[potent hornet]

same with Khrav

[lime nacelle]

She's last on my list though, mainly because I don't have a decent weapon for her.

[potent hornet]

she is the great deleter. The team is super solid

did pretty much the whole story with her except a little bit of the start

[inland quarry]

Lr has such good ba

Zfy is good and all, but I really don't like her ba

[potent hornet]

yea her over the shoulder upstrike makes me think of Seigfried and Nightmare from SoulCalibur

her dive strike wielding the sword with her feet is just wild lol

Fang is fine, i like her more than Laev, mostly because i just like lightning more than fire

still need to finish my Laev team lol

[frozen tide]

Is there any meaningful non fs cancel windows for zfy basics out of ult

With ult you can cancel seq 3 and fs

But out of ult I can't find much

[grand lagoon]

anyone feels that ZFY final strike often missed?

[frozen tide]

🤔

I haven't felt that

Esp compared to who i used to main

Lrs fs misses every other time

[grand lagoon]

by miss i mean she back step and when the distance should hit but just slightly not enough (eventho it looks like a HIT)

[frozen tide]

Ic

[potent hornet]

that would be a spacing issue not an issue with the FS

[grand lagoon]

definitely not an issue if you always attack in close distance, but when you try to do max range... it feels like her step back and final strike makes the gap distance longer and she miss

sigh

[grand lagoon]

yep, obviously

[willow blade]

sup theorycrafting

[potent hornet]

hello

[outer ermine]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[outer ermine]

tidal fight looks funni

estella co value

[dusk isle]

oh my god this shit is impossible

landed three 39s cs connections today none were crit

[outer ermine]

never does when ur on form

[dusk isle]

i even changed the voice to chinese to help with crits

[outer ermine]

cn text, cn voice

minmax

[dusk isle]

ill trim the 39s

i really like it this time

[outer ermine]

pretty close to yv whel time u can do it

[dusk isle]

what yv whel time

[outer ermine]

37.5

ive been playing the rot in my head and lr might be able to beat it

[dusk isle]

wtf why is this file 514mb

i hope i can compress it below 100mb with 1080p

[willow blade]

what build?

[dusk isle]

yinglung cs build + redeemer hand

[willow blade]

what weapon on xaihi?

[dusk isle]

deto

[willow blade]

I seen calcs sey that virtues is better if tangtang is on the team

[dusk isle]

thanks for the advice, i know what my rot needs tho

[willow blade]

hm never seen that

[willow blade]

how does it feel compared to the hanging river + swordmaster armor build?

[dusk isle]

yinglung set mostly used for speedkill

[willow blade]

ya makes sense

[waxen knoll]

what do i upgrade next after Zhuang's battle skill?

ult?

[willow blade]

i think the upgread order was something like lv9 bs combo ult normals, m3 bs m3 ult (can upgread ult and bs at the same time) m3 combo ,m3 normals

[ocean turret]

dang to think i got cooked in the slimes in the 3rd stage is wild

[willow blade]

what stage?

[waxen knoll]

bit surprising cuz i usually think its the combo skill is the one getting M3 second because of 1s reduction

[ocean turret]

the one with the ice in the middle

[waxen knoll]

for Tangtang and Rossi their combo skill is their second priority upgrade, right

[ocean turret]

theyre cc immune so i cant pull them away from it

[willow blade]

from 18 to 17, sure it helps but it kinda hard to determain its exact value

everything but normals get buffed a lot from ult so you want to m3 everything (normals too as the extra finisher dmg can be a lot)

[waxen knoll]

im being indecisive rn, but are all the other main DPS like this?

or is it just Zhuang Fangyi being Zhuang Fangyi

[willow blade]

kinda yes

[willow blade]

its a dps every bit matters

[waxen knoll]

would yyou recommend max etch signatures first over less important M3? or the other way around?

[willow blade]

I have m12ed my leav LR and xfy

[willow blade]

uh maxetch on sig (with atk%) is insanely op, ill say lv 9 everything then max etch or reach about 553 or 453, then m3 the most important skill (or m2 m2 the 2 most important idk up to you)

I dont have exact numbers but I try to max etch before starting to mastering my 2nd skill

[coarse storm]

I got 2 dupes of Fangyis weapon, is that like a decent damage increase?

[willow blade]

prob by like 5-10%? not too sure

[open hare]

[crystal flicker]

Whats the set for tt? Bone or Qingbo

[dusk isle]

Bone

Im trying to squeeze out every droplet of dmg

Qinbo wont do shit anyway

I only use 1 tt cs per phase, cscd isnt a bottleneck

[merry kite]

Qingbone stokrusher

[outer ermine]

go crit tt

2+min clears for p0 on tidal is funni ngl

[edgy elk]

new umbral

more critfishing yay

[ivory gale]

this umbral hates ember specifically

[merry kite]

What does new umbral do?

[outer ermine]

get hit get fucked

[edgy elk]

back to "solo clear umbral with cryo operator" challenge

@outer ermine who should i use to solo this time

umbral 2 was LR, umbral 3 was TT

-# yvonne doesn't count

better question is this one even solo-able

[dry kindle]

Just dodge

[outer ermine]

frogs theres a chen solo
ovo has laev solo rn on tidal, editing zfy

he was doing tt earlier but i dont know if he did it

[edgy elk]

sweet

i'll do TT then

p0?

-# ig pot dont matter if i just lock in for longer

[dry kindle]

Solo all 6 as 1 run no hit

[outer ermine]

full pot

[dry kindle]

[outer ermine]

it was like 4 mins

[edgy elk]

surely p0p0 won't go past 10 min

alright i got td's agenda

[outer ermine]

phy getting bodied on mob stages

[merry kite]

So, what are the challenges in new umbral?

What do stages have?

[edgy elk]

it's a surprise

[merry kite]

[frozen tide]

yvonne

[chilly bolt]

Yvonne solo

[frozen tide]

yes

[edgy elk]

all in on basics

crit them til they dead

[final plume]

I've been using 5/5/3 and have 2.33k coolant in the bank (guess I've been unlucky, I only have two 6/6/3 and the rest are for support at x/x/3)
do I start using 5/5/2 now? (the 2.33k coolant bank is just from Lae+supp team and Fangyi alone was thinking of just gel the x/x/2 to x/x/3 for Fangyi supp)

[bronze plume]

i dont see i reason to not just go for the 5/5/3

its not like you are going ot be getting characters fast enuf to not be able to keep up with that

unless you are one of them get all characters people and they release 3 in a patch again but i doubt and hope that will hjappen again

[final plume]

no thats the point I dont get all the characters which means I have less to build and wont have anywhere to spend the gel on and im already at 2k+

[chilly bolt]

Not sure what's your point, simply put it just use gel on 5 to 6 etch

2 to 3 on 3rd line is arguably not worth since gel is scarce

It has almost same rate as 4 to 5

[outer ermine]

yv tt and yv estella 47 48

[final plume]

yeah thats what I've been doing and ended up with 2k+ gel reserves so was asking based on the chart if I should just gel 3rd 2 to 3

[chilly bolt]

Sure if you already have a lot

[edgy elk]

estella faster?

[outer ermine]

basically the same

[outer ermine]

The ranged state suffers more Heat DMG, but has significant DMG Reduction against other elements

[edgy elk]

i thought u went

[outer ermine]

not today

[edgy elk]

wait i thought umbral enemies get shared res or smth

is tidal's heat a separate mechanic?

[ocean turret]

[outer ermine]

its under tidals trait so separate mechanic

[edgy elk]

oh woah

you and your rossi ult

[outer ermine]

estella value again

just run and tp

[edgy elk]

holdup intercontinental estella works as stella co??

i cant believe i never thought of this

oh it doesnt

😭

[outer ermine]

bs needs to be offfield but cs can be co

theres still a range on cs tho

[edgy elk]

yeah i realized

im testing rho rn

[outer ermine]

theres use cases in mino, nef wave etc

[edgy elk]

phase through nef wave lmao

[outer ermine]

havent tried actually, i just dgaf and take the wave then insta recover

its hard to setup anyway

[edgy elk]

insta recover?

who has that

[dusk isle]

hifu smth about my nef rot

it might not work for p5p5 i got an insane high roll on phase 1, killing her before tt could land her fs so i was lacking sp on 2nd phase

i got a 3x crit on lr cs

[outer ermine]

not recover as ignore kb

[outer ermine]

double cata

[dusk isle]

xaihi cata actually works true

[outer ermine]

get knocked, after tumble, gap close kind of recover

[dusk isle]

stew meeting + uge food for ult on 2nd phase

[outer ermine]

cant escape stew

[waxen knoll]

so are UGE artifice on supports worth doing or nah not really?

just finished maxing out all of my DPS artifice lol

[summer narwhal]

UGE that good for Lifeng?

[sturdy hill]

his ult alr gives free 3 vuln stack

u knows whats next

[summer narwhal]

Is it really worth losing all of his damage?

[dry kindle]

if you dont have 6* spear you have no damage in the first place

[summer narwhal]

What I have him in, that's why I ask

I have his Sig

[dusk isle]

im jetting my (nonexistent) lifeg rn

[frigid vector]

with new umbral I wonder if we'll get some good speedruns on it

or if it'll be the usual fast clears then back to re-crisis

[drifting quest]

from what ive seen there's some potential but i doubt it gets popular

isnt out on eu/na yet afaik so havent played personally

[outer ermine]

check on other dc for times its very funni theyre running to rock boss instead

[drifting quest]

speedrunners when they can fight nuanced boss vs training dummy

[chilly bolt]

Speedrunning the tidalkast or whatever the name was would be fun

[drifting quest]

i always find the longer speedruns with more chance for skill expression and tech engaging

[outer ermine]

not when theyre just stalling

mino was good even w stall

bypassing roar, preventing roar, accelerating rage etc was peak

rhod w super fast speedkills still uses a bunch of tech but mostly on execution side and smol micros for chip dmg

that gil+ard still lives in my head

can um hurry tf up

[woeful timber]

1.2m dmg mdps TangTang

p3p0 full disclaimer

[chilly bolt]

What's the investment

Oh

[woeful timber]

Curious how much dmg this rot does on p0 though, p3 is only 5% extra susc

Also Rho dies before the last 2 nado bs can do any damage

[chilly bolt]

Food or no food?

[woeful timber]

ginseng here cuz i was trying to speed kill, but it can be done no food

[chilly bolt]

Honestly i never tried tt hyper i dont know the rot

[outer ermine]

2cs, burst

[woeful timber]

I’ve just been experimenting with different rots till i got this. If p0 TT I’d probably use Perli’s ult right after Xaihi’s to stall the cd on TT’s second cs, then you just might not get the 3rd cs.

This rot with p1+ though gets 6 waterspouts in the 5 second burst window and 3 are buffed by diving her ult

[chilly bolt]

Holy

[woeful timber]

And she’s a “support” unit lol

[chilly bolt]

What's the build?

[daring dove]

Naw she's the best character in the game. Fangyi wakes up every morning & wishes she could be the Supreme Chief.

[woeful timber]

Bonekrusha chest, gloves, mask, and slab

[woeful timber]

lol straight up, TangTang can work in literally every team in the game and do pretty well, or she can just be a mdps and do just as well.

[chilly bolt]

Oh rip i don't have that artificed

Im using the bs maxing 3 bone and mi hands

[woeful timber]

Ahh yea I have those too, I just swapped the hands for the Bonekrusha hands and used a slab I already had artificed from another dps. My gloves are barely artificed too.

I just have the 3rd line artificed

[daring dove]

That's the best setup for support Tangtang most of the time to be fair. An it's not a bad option for MDPS either but it will lose to slab.

[woeful timber]

You could probably make it work without slab honestly. This rot mostly just spams her bs anyways

You’d just do a bit less dmg on the ult dive

[chilly bolt]

Worst case i just need to artifice the gloves

I have slab from zfy

[woeful timber]

Yea exactly it’s only 1 piece that needs to be swapped so it’s not too bad and everybody has a slab artificed on their main dps somewhere lol

[daring dove]

I really hope Mifu is anywhere close to as good as Tangtang is when she finally drops.

[woeful timber]

Same, but for heat (please I’m begging you hg)

I have a feeling it’s gonna be that vampire guy who’s the heat unit but I’d much rather pull Mi Fu so ima dream

[daring dove]

Vampire guy should be a 4* Ember support

[woeful timber]

lol for mdps ember meta?

[daring dove]

Or PHY character keep all the husbando's on PHY.

[chilly bolt]

kinda crazy

80% hp with unoptimal rot

[outer ermine]

this mf is tanky

[daring dove]

Well new stuff was fun anyway.

[distant python]

It's open in the west now?

[daring dove]

Yep

[distant python]

Time to log on then

Can I just physical stagger cheese every stage

Or are there mechanics designed to make you use different teams

[chilly bolt]

You can but some stages spawn a shit ton of mobs so good luck with that

[tight haven]

i used phys on the ones with only a boss

as ever it struggles to deal with mobs

laev kinda took a fat dump on every stage though

in the time it took fangyi to ramp up laev already beat it...

goes to show how powerful having a wulfgard is

[chilly bolt]

Yeah lmao zfy is nowhere near laev

2 cycles and ult already up

[drifting quest]

the agendaposters are in shambles

[tight haven]

if cc does have -sp risks fangyi gets launched into the fucking stratosphere

shes already super slow

the only one where fangyi did perform better was tidalklast because her sheer dps actually had somewhere to go in an amount of time during which laev couldn't just beat the stage already

[woeful timber]

Same with Fangyi though

[chilly bolt]

Difference is that how long is zfy cycle

[tight haven]

no, fangyi takes a lot more sp to get ult up from zero

just a free elec proc would be so nice man

[woeful timber]

Literally just FS>Perli cs > ebs > perli bs > fs > zfy cs > ebs > repeat twice and you have full ult

[tight haven]

-100 sp

[woeful timber]

Lae is a bit faster, but Zhuang isnt that far behind

[drifting quest]

900sp and a full minute

[chilly bolt]

that doesn't sound faster

[tight haven]

that is quite a longer cycle than bs > wulf cs > bs > bs > ebs > laev cs

[drifting quest]

vs 400sp and 30-40s

[tight haven]

if theres more than one enemy then scratch two bs

[drifting quest]

if it even takes that

[woeful timber]

I didnt say "faster" i said " 2 cycles and her ult is up"

[tight haven]

the mob stages had her getting to ult in 10 seconds flat

[drifting quest]

2 cycles but 3 listed

[tight haven]

it is night and day

[drifting quest]

idgi

[tight haven]

but yea elec wulf mifu

please

[drifting quest]

longer cycles, more cycles

[tight haven]

or vampire dude

vampire dude being in fangyis team would be rly funny

[drifting quest]

blood = body
body has nerves
nerves use electricity to transmit information

therefore he is electric

[chilly bolt]

[distant python]

i used this team stage 1 agony

holy fuck its sooo fun

its sooo fucking fun man

they just get perma cced with gilberta skill into combo

[tight haven]

gilberta moment

[distant python]

its soo good

and you can inflict corrison if you want by using akekuri skill into ult then rossi ult

and endmin is here to consume crush and give attack boost with crystal

definitely not good vs bosses though, im relies on constant akekuri combo skills from staggering mobs

i literally just built my akekrui for this (lvl 80 , ult to lvl 9, frontiers pieces stolen from xaihi and thermite stolen from pog)

this passive is finally worth something, lets gooo

[warped sinew]

i simply used one team for all stages, and finnaly they gave more levels

and now i wonder when will they give something more challenging

[lime nacelle]

I used Yvonne. Tried to use Fangyi but it was sadness.

[rich heron]

The humble No Gilb risk of CC

[warped sinew]

wdym?

[long kite]

Maybe adding enemies that can't be Pulled

[summer narwhal]

I still don't know the rotation in practice

I lose sword stacks etc

Have the ops, gear etc still lack the skill

[pure spoke]

test

[dusk isle]

bluetooth connected

[pure spoke]

only took 10 minutes

[dusk isle]

can we not upload images rn

or is it just me

[still mason]

yeah we can't

the API is struggling bad

[warped sinew]

should be good now, i was able to send ss in team build channel

[lime nacelle]

Does anyone have Gilberta's weapon and is happy with it?

[woeful timber]

I do, the uge on Gil's weapon(with perplexing) lets her get her ult back just before her cd is up. Its impossible without her sig(without meat stew at least), and this lets me get 2 Gil ults in 1 Zhuang ult. I pretty much use her sig everywhere outside of Rho.

[lime nacelle]

Guess I'll join the club.

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk another cat gear option

may or may not be able to 54

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

need to crit kek

5% gaming time

[outer ermine]

this is too cancer w mv rng

[placid tulip]

should i build endmin with more art intensity for better crush? or just keep the phys dam boost?

[potent hornet]

sigh, first try on all stages except the last one because i got lazy and didn't realize it froze you

1.5 tries for the last one

CC whennnn

[edgy elk]

woah wut

SM cat? catas cat? yinglung cat?

[limpid shadow]

I wonder how much toxicity this place will get once CC drops

[edgy elk]

"what do you MEAN i can't run yvonne xaihi ember fluorite at max risk?? this game is stupid smh. endfield eos tomorrow."

-# watch CC make ember relevant

[potent hornet]

it will be a lot more of "What gear do i put (insert worst possible fight for that character) this stage?" with absolutely no other info

[potent hornet]

i'm hopeing!!

i'm really hopeing every character will find a niche in CC

[limpid shadow]

Striker ban risk tag 🤫

[potent hornet]

do they have class bans in OG arknights?>

[river ermine]

yes but we have like 12 classes there

[potent hornet]

gotcha

[river ermine]

theres
VG, Guard, Caster, Sniper, Defender, Medic, Specialist, Supporter,

or was it 8

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

it is 8

lmao

[edgy crater]

hg class already become flavor text right now

medic dps, supporter medic, sniper specialsit

[distant python]

I think I suffer from severe skill issue with zhuang

[potent hornet]

did you sprain your battle skill finger?

[edgy elk]

agenda, or something

[dusk isle]

Sorry that happened to you

[edgy elk]

[edgy elk]

[dusk isle]

I want one too

[edgy elk]

ok onto the next one

[distant python]

No, I'm just fucking up rotations

I have concluded I don't like characters that need kinda set rotations to do stuff

Give me my ember again so I can just left click better

Also all the ranged DPS are squishy

I get hit 3 times and die

I will beat the slime stage tomorrow

I will be hp maxxing on ember

And simply live the explosions

[merry kite]

https://tenor.com/view/maintaining-the-agenda-agenda-is-priority-priority-agenda-maintain-the-agenda-the-agenda-gif-3278548794073012331

how's new umbral?

[edgy elk]

fun

[merry kite]

i'm kinda scared to try agony mode

[distant python]

Stage 1 use Gil skill , stage 2 I clear with normal physical team

Stage 3 I think I will just try and out sustain it

Stage 6 looks like physical shill again with the need to stagger the boss for actual damage

[dry kindle]

Ok p5 whel

[edgy elk]

keep up, p(easant)0

lae solo now

[edgy crater]

dats @honest hill title smh

[edgy elk]

peasant(1)

[dry kindle]

Smh whels

[edgy elk]

the agenda dies at UM3

[potent hornet]

oop, did they just get warned?

i was about to say just use tang tang

thats what i did

(thats the answer to all the umbrals)

[edgy elk]

yes

i decided that i, in fact, do not hate myself

yvonne solo agenda dies at UM3

it's tang's turn

[potent hornet]

all stages LR, TT, Perl, Xai

[atomic agate]

whats the rotation for ZF perlica arclight antal

[edgy elk]

anyone know UM tidalklast's HP?

[outer ermine]

sub 50 looks doable but the dmg

already rotated thru all my gear just to get here cata, sm, qb, xira

wtf solo

495

[edgy elk]

i think i can push sub 8 min

maybe tomorrow ive reached my yvonne quota for today

does SM vs tidal increase the interruption stagger by 20%?

[outer ermine]

didnt confirm actually it just felt like shit

[edgy elk]

im pretty sure u need SM but it's just vibes atm
i was tryna LR / TT speed

[outer ermine]

i break at 45 or sum shit w/o

interrupt matters more

[edgy elk]

i was just wondering if interrupt gets +20% from SM too

how do u break at 45?

rng his moves?

[outer ermine]

mv fishing

insta reset on missles

[edgy elk]

so thats why mine r taking so long

do yk his HP

[outer ermine]

he glides like 5 times

mf

[edgy elk]

i'll do a sheet to see if the rot is possible first

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-16817230695535296570

[edgy elk]

awh

rip

im tryna see if i can corro3 -> gil ult refresh -> lr cs4 instakill

[outer ermine]

feels like over 1.2m tho

[edgy elk]

if his HP's low enough, cs4 with ramped corro3 true crit can probably do it

[merry kite]

welp, i guess umbral agony is not for me

sad

[edgy elk]

oh-

[outer ermine]

tanky boi

[potent hornet]

you have my respect, i used to do that for White fatalis in MHFU, it is painful.

[edgy elk]

btw did that heat dmg idea work out?

[dry kindle]

who

[edgy elk]

doesnt he take extra heat while ranged

[merry kite]

sadge umbral doesn't have middle difficulty

[edgy elk]

tidal HP

[merry kite]

cause it's just too easy or too hard

no in-between

[edgy elk]

what lvl ru stuck on?

[dry kindle]

917k hp

[potent hornet]

make the current agony mid and give us blighted agony

[edgy elk]

doesnt he get a buff in UM?

"enemies stronger" or smth

or is that just damage

[dry kindle]

isnt that just making them lv90

[edgy elk]

oh srsly that's all?

[dry kindle]

idk

[merry kite]

tbh, all
i've decided to try 2nd stage (i think, that one big chonky monster with hammer on head), i keep dying

[edgy elk]

if it's just 900k i can do it, probably

[drifting quest]

sit and just practice dodging for a bit on it

[potent hornet]

you got TangTang?

[drifting quest]

dont bother trying to clear or deal damage just get into the feel for patterns

then slowly introduce rotation back in around dodging

[outer ermine]

its def more i think i sent my dmg here earlier

[potent hornet]

you did

and it is

[merry kite]

ye

[merry kite]

hmm, that sounds reasonable, thanks

[potent hornet]

in most of them i basically just did TT bs,cs,bs repeat while dodging

[merry kite]

dodging is the hardest part

[potent hornet]

you only kinda have to fight the big rock dude seriously, last dude is actually dangerous

[potent hornet]

keep in mind in the toad level you only have to kill the one

you can just ignore the rest

[edgy elk]

the pig charges three times (usually). for each time he charges, you only need to dodge it once, then ur immune til he pauses and charges again. so try dashing into him instead of away
keep some distance so you see him coming. it's awkward if you're right in front of him when he begins his dash, cus then he'll insta-hit you when the hitbox appears and you can't dodge that

[outer ermine]

- from experience

[edgy elk]

ignore the slugs. they're just tickle damage

i kept them around so they can help me regen SP

[potent hornet]

i deleted the axe head, forgot he is supposed to be hard for some reason

[merry kite]

i think i got minus half hp from one of the slug💀
unless it was just mesh of everyone's attacks at the same time

[potent hornet]

if you have some less filled out gear then you can use xaihi to help tangtang out and get 2 cs off for the 3 full waterspouts

[merry kite]

ok, thanks

[edgy elk]

if u have aoe just line em up, hit the pig and the slugs will die somewhere along the way

positioning matters

they'll always track u so, just let em group tgt

pig dodge, or smth
just run toward him

[potent hornet]

spouts will take care of them

[drifting quest]

a lot of the stages are aoe shill probably for fangyi but then fangyi without ult is something so it's just sort of been laev shill

[merry kite]

daym

[merry kite]

guess, i'll put out lae

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-sinister-malevolent-evil-gif-15342583514003527998

thanks for advices, guys

[merry kite]

what teams did you use?

[drifting quest]

i havent had the time to do agony yet, prob going to experiment with a bunch when I can set aside a few hours

do it with bad stuff first, pivot to better/shilled stuff if needed

[merry kite]

oh

[drifting quest]

i need to like dump sanity on avywenna so ill prob try some stuff with her

[merry kite]

bro's gonna cook that game

ngl, i liked previous umbral more

[edgy elk]

solo clear it~!

[drifting quest]

i dont have the hands unfortunately

[edgy elk]

awh

[edgy elk]

"how to make 20 minutes of content last longer"

[drifting quest]

3-5 teams per stage testing makes it stretch a good chunk

it'll probably take me a few days to get through it all

probably more if im being exhaustive

[edgy elk]

but realistically which stages would need extensive testing except the two bosses and maybe frogs?

1,2,3 are all just, dps check, aoe check, heal check

[drifting quest]

laev hyper (gilb + gilbless), laev rossi, yvonne hyper, yvonne lr, yvonne tt, mdps tt, lr tt, rossi tt, rossi hyper, hybrid rossi, phys rossi, monophys, fangyi hyper, fangyi avy, avy hyper

yada yada

[edgy elk]

dam u have a lot of teams built

[drifting quest]

mostly just a case of getting a feel for teams in 'hard' content

[edgy elk]

no wonder u said u were being priced out of tc

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah there's so much im just pure sheet on since i dont have it built

or i have it built subpar

shatter, avywenna till i build her

my cryo shit is like level 60

etc

[edgy elk]

close enough fight UM non-agony and call it even

except cscd etc

[drifting quest]

i cleared the last umbrals with l60 yvonne lr

[edgy elk]

yvonne + LR?

[drifting quest]

yeah

[edgy elk]

daring

sounds fun

[drifting quest]

i test the shit teams so that I can call them terrible with confidence

[edgy elk]

real

which means, i should build fluorite now

[merry kite]

build catcher

[potent hornet]

to be fair for most people if they can't do it with a shit team there is a fair chance they can't do it with a good one either

[drifting quest]

its all about minimising the amount of player agency required for them to clear

[edgy elk]

"if buttons light up, press them"

[drifting quest]

spoonfeeding good teams with good gear and then giving them the 'how to play' setup means all they have to do is dodge on demand

[edgy elk]

"press tangtang bs until lr's button lights up"

[drifting quest]

i need to do my limbus mde run and then spend sanity on cn ogak and then i'll get to testing if I dont have irl commitments

[edgy elk]

woah busy

[drifting quest]

moreso that its free time for once so I can go play the stuff I want to first

[edgy elk]

endfield last sounds about right

[bold rose]

arc gear correct?

[karmic burrow]

If you're running arc as support then u should focus on INT stat

[bold rose]

you're not casting BS anyway
int is meaningless

[karmic burrow]

Well, her 1st talent need INT to gain increased dmg dealt, I js think that helps her as support

[bold rose]

the point is you're never using her BS to trigger her first talent in ZFY team
any electrification you get is better used to stack ZFY blades

[karmic burrow]

Thats true, i forgot about that(I haven't build arc yet)

I think a different frontiers kit would be better

[bold rose]

the other frontiers kit aren't better

[karmic burrow]

I think this one would be better than u have

[bold rose]

sec attrib is int again
you're not using int

it's worthless

[karmic burrow]

It can add 0.2 atk tho

i think your choice would be better

since her combo CD is short

[bold rose]

the point of arclight in zfy is that she's frontiers/thermal carrier + combo/ult bot

the utility stats matter more

[edgy elk]

what's up with this convo? we've been 15 minutes on how to minmax arclight's two damage in fangyi's team?
that kit's going byebye anyway the moment we get an ult gain kit

-# btw im on team "cs damage" bc int is frankly worthless for arc

-# but doesn't change arc's 0 damage output

[karmic burrow]

Yeah i js hope next patch have new ult gain kit

[dry kindle]

Me waiting for arclight p4

[karmic burrow]

i also want to ask, should i change laev gear to slab?

I think slab will give laev more INT

[drifting quest]

If its aoe its fine
If its sgt the uge loss can often cause dps losses due to inefficient cycling

[karmic burrow]

Alr thx for the info

I think i would use the slab from ZFY

[neon knot]

ZFY is truly awful in fights where mobs die before you can consume the electrification

[outer ermine]

i dont wanna, not that i can, artif bk for this

[honest hill]

u gotta whel harder

[outer ermine]

got a oneshot

1s faster than that lmao

fuck it i hate this boss

already beat mono phy but i wanted more

[main nova]

because perlibird actually deal decent amount of damage per-rotation i can see why some mob die too easily

unlike a frkn wulfgard

[honest hill]

You love all the bosses

don't lie

[frozen tide]

hifumi does love every boss dearly

[sturdy hill]

do he loves quilon

[honest hill]

yes

[honest hill]

he spends a lot of time w them

when Hifumi get a husband/wife he'll spend more time w the endfield bosses

[frozen tide]

hifumi will marry rhodagn

no room for 3d humans

[sturdy hill]

like this

shurely

[honest hill]

yes like this

[drifting quest]

lamp gapped

[honest hill]

[neon knot]

i built my wulfgard subdps and he does decent damage

[ripe adder]

help is dead time to chill here and do nothing

is deto better than ww for perlica in fangyi team?

[drifting quest]

can be, usually isnt

[swift onyx]

Can for speedruns using catasrophe from.what ive seen
Cuz u need to use perlica bs after arclight ult/fangyi ult bs

[ripe adder]

I usually do that to stack electrification into 9 sunderblades ebs gil ult

which is what you should do

[ripe adder]

hmm interesting

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV1ogR9B2EG7
can 48 but dont feel like grinding

and i need bk

[undone phoenix]

quick question when weapons say "Max stacks of the same name cant stack"

does it mean if i have 2 weapons with "Flow" for example i cant stack them?

[drifting quest]

for now its exact weapon

[undone phoenix]

can Termite Cutter stack with another weapon using Flow ?

like never rest or edge of lightness

[swift onyx]

Yes
"Same name" refers to the name of the "skill"