theorycrafting

[outer ermine]

save me someone take over

[peak fulcrum]

not sure if this is the right place to ask but how important is Ult Gain Efficiency for Avywenna, more specifically referring to the Bonekrusha chestpiece

[drifting quest]

desired but not mandatory

[peak fulcrum]

I'm thinking she would be doing more damage with the MI Security chestpiece's battle skill damage boost along with bonekrusha gloves electro dmg boost

but I've seen so many people run bonekrusha chestpiece instead so I'm a little confused

[drifting quest]

because of avy's talent it's hard to give strict recommendation for uge

[peak fulcrum]

fair enough

[drifting quest]

assuming typical sgt setups uge chest is useful for lining ults up

[peak fulcrum]

I see, thanks

[drifting quest]

slab offpiece with new bk gear is also a big boon to access so incentivises just running the uge chest

[drifting quest]

i didnt even notice, the usual weapon banner datamine source is wrong
jet is the current weekly shop weapon instead of the datamined rascent rerun
either datamine was wrong or it got changed post release
also makes the future ones useless

probably got changed given the rest lined up

[outer ermine]

when is this shit gonna crit when im performing

give me my 400k

[dry kindle]

just be luckier already

[outer ermine]

grind my run ill pay

[normal tangle]

in the theoretical scenario of a nature dps, what are gilberta's options since stanza is off the table?

[swift onyx]

Sig

[dry kindle]

sig sig and sig

[normal tangle]

[limpid rock]

Monaihe ♿

[chilly bolt]

Opus

[edgy crater]

deto

[echo cove]

Chiv, no?

Isn't it just gonna be chiv cos heal every ult?

I mean, it's either that or sig ofc

[dry kindle]

mandatory reading

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk

klills at 616

.

[dry kindle]

L

you out of stew yet

[outer ermine]

fucked up a bit at the end its 3 frames late than wwhat i wwante

d

my fingfers

[echo cove]

I kinda forgot if chiv only works for bs or if it also work for ult too

[outer ermine]

wanted it to be .2-4 but fuck it good enough

[echo cove]

Well even if it doesn't work on ult, if it works for bs, that doesn't matter, no? Cos u can just trigger the effect using bs if it's a nature dps anw

[outer ermine]

nah i habve a lot

[dry kindle]

yeah for 100sp

[outer ermine]

im fucking free

[dry kindle]

and it needs 2 enemies

[echo cove]

I mean, aint that the same deal w antal deto, or perlica deto, or whatever u guys have in zfy too anw for example?

100 sp for 15% atk isn't even bad + her bs is rly good for aoe anw

[echo cove]

But i agree on this one. That'd suck lol

Well also u can just cs to activate it apparently anw so if u don't wanna spend sp, cs would take care of it (unless i read it wrong)

[dry kindle]

we dont run perlica deto

and antal deto is free

[dry kindle]

deto or chiv

[echo cove]

How's it free? Do u not use his bs at all?

[dry kindle]

cs

[echo cove]

Chiv. Am not talking abt deto on gil altho it could be a good alternative

[echo cove]

Eh... Ok i see

[dry kindle]

tf wasnt this bskill

[echo cove]

No

It's any skill

Always has been

That's why i said what i said

[dry kindle]

[echo cove]

It's just that the only one that might use chiv rn is xaihi so like

[dry kindle]

i guess its there

[echo cove]

[dry kindle]

except still needs 2 enemies so lol lmao

[echo cove]

Yeah that's gonna be a pain

Deto is gonna be better i guess

More AI and dmg taken would be strong on her stupid aoe reach

[outer ermine]

i need a good music

[tawny ermine]

plays Operation Blade

Someone mentioned pepe?!

plays Mystic Light Quest

[peak void]

the og 67

[oak vigil]

I thought you at first typed “pope” sob 💔

[peak void]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-mystic-light-quest-pepe-明日方舟-佩佩-gif-15025761417188907313

[tawny ermine]

Fr fr

[main nova]

https://youtu.be/r2DZzyeni6I?si=gt_ZjjShompffdc1

[dusk isle]

Why is the creature presented in such a wide way

[oak vigil]

my bad, here is the fixed version

[main nova]

[chilly bolt]

Damn pot6

[dusk isle]

Aaaah. I understand it now

[daring dove]

[edgy crater]

erika indeed a good music

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1hW9fBJECp

i can sleep

[honest hill]

no

[edgy crater]

*next day got beaten

[honest hill]

yeah someone will beat him up

[edgy crater]

go beat him

[honest hill]

nah he plays this game all day everyday and barely sleeps

I can't compete w that

[outer ermine]

there is like only 2 ppl that i know that can match that speed

[dusk isle]

1.3 of them are stealth for sure

[edgy crater]

watch those 2 peeps do it

[outer ermine]

they wont

[honest hill]

nah

[outer ermine]

hooked a big fish

[potent hornet]

yay my blessing worked

[outer ermine]

🤝 on nef next

[dusk isle]

Hifu what time are you grinding on nef

[outer ermine]

was aiming for sub 45 but idk now w timer update and new findings

cuz

i have a really funni idea

i have a 17s phase1 kill but its shit cuz i start w barely any sp and its a crit grind

[wild skiff]

why lynx glove on fangyi when the new qingbo ult glove got both atribute fit fangyi?

[outer ermine]

revisited, can prob work w it

[tight flax]

Yeah I'm not sure what to get on Fangyi, I thought it would be ultimate efficiency but now I'm a bit unsure

[wild skiff]

i didnt do any essence yet so she wont be able to kill in one ultimate anyway

getting her ult up again is a pain

anyone tried the yinglung combo dmg build on rossi yet? for sub rossi and fun i think it might be good her combo deals good dmg

[edgy crater]

some slapping 1 yinglung ulti kit for higher ulti burst

[outer ermine]

ah yea nef is doomed

only need stew on rossi

alesh got interrupted couldnt see how the run would have turn out but pretty ez from here

[woven drift]

Why is Wulfgard the only one with such a goofy ahh build

[outer ermine]

when rhod is harder moment real endgame boss

[woven drift]

Anyway, im trying to figure out which vulnerability consumer i want for my Rossi/Wulfgard/Gilberta team.

[edgy crater]

can go none

[woven drift]

Wondering if anyone has a suggestion

[edgy crater]

all in arts

use those vuln as ange ulti requirement

[potent hornet]

yea gilberta is too good with full vuln stacks

[wild skiff]

been trying endmin estella alesh and rossi sub. pretty hard to trigger estella combo the right sequence to endmin ult-bs bcs rossi combo and endmin cs will consume the cryo inflict

so far its rossi ult opening-bs-alesh ult- rossi cs1- estella cs- endmin cs- rossi cs2-estella ult-endmin ult+bs

[native aurora]

Hi guys

Which one do you think is the best zhuang fangyi team?

[wild skiff]

perlica tangtang gibby, that's the easiest one

if want sp switch tangtang to arclight, want more sp switch gibby with alesh

if no gibby go antal or ardelia, arguably better in longer fight

[native aurora]

tt?

why?

[woven drift]

You dare question the Chief?

[wild skiff]

which one better for endmin?

[native aurora]

No sir!

https://tenor.com/view/endministrator-endmin-arknights-thinking-think-gif-13015367457738449434

[honest hill]

skill issue

[outer ermine]

imma hit u

[honest hill]

https://tenor.com/view/perlica-arknights-endfield-endfield-arknights-beat-up-gif-9166203778869899533

[summer narwhal]

Endmin using newer SM Armor, worth the AI loss?

[drifting quest]

depends on the team but usually yes

can flex an off piece AI glove if you want to

[summer narwhal]

Team is Endmin/Chen/Pog/Lifeng

[drifting quest]

I'd say just stick to what you have until we know for certain how p3 interacts

once that's solved then you can see if you think it's worth the swap also considering things like uge investments

[summer narwhal]

I'm told this is best?

Gotcha

I don't use his Ult nearly as much as Crush, which does insane damage

[drifting quest]

if you're crushbotting then there's an argument for Aethertech instead

[summer narwhal]

Stagger involved too

Anymore with all the content done, you might be right and just wait

[drifting quest]

p3 is later this patch

[summer narwhal]

I'm also AI Pog build too

[drifting quest]

no reason to invest in something that might change when we get that

[summer narwhal]

True, and where was P3 announced?

[drifting quest]

Initially datamined, now you can view it in game on Endmin's potential page

[summer narwhal]

Oh

[dry kindle]

We really couldn't give endmin -ult cost

[drifting quest]

too easy

[drifting quest]

should be (assumption) available with the test site expansion later this patch

they could just be baiting us and it isnt in this patch, however

[gritty briar]

Would be funny if it was just left in there way too early and we get the actual pot at the end of the year

[summer narwhal]

So far it's just less UGE if you CS before Ult, yes?

[drifting quest]

we dont know if it interacts with uge (it says 'does not benefit from other bonuses' but that isnt exactly clear wording, esp with the history of bad TL and errors)

reduced cost to next ult, potential uge interaction from the free energy, etc.

builds are potentially set to change depending on how it works

[summer narwhal]

I see

I barely know what I'm doing, so there's that

[gritty briar]

also kinda depends on if future hard content is gonna give ult start or not. might not wanna bother aiming for uge breakpoints if they're only gonna work after the first ult

[drifting quest]

CC is almost certainly 0 ult start

but you never know

[gritty briar]

yeah i expect that as well

[drifting quest]

i could see them making it an optional tag or something i guess

[gritty briar]

the re-crises giving you ult start just feels like a consequence of it being previously possible to save ults for farming, and not like an intended balance decision for a challenge

and umbrals don't do that

[drifting quest]

protocol spaces changing to ult start was qol because they used to keep the state you entered them in

now they fully heal you and fully charge ultimates

they're all meant to be used for farming hence ult starts for convenience

[summer narwhal]

Correct

[gritty briar]

I wonder if tacticals will be a CC risk

[gritty briar]

I guess if tacticals are allowed, you could also ult food to 'fix' this for the first ult

[summer narwhal]

Can't you pre-eat food before?

[gritty briar]

Pretty sure that doesn't work for umbral. Would expect it to not work in CC as well

[summer narwhal]

Right

Umbral doesn't allow tacticals anyway

At least for agony

Which is why Ember is pretty good, at least she can heal

[drifting quest]

quotation marks would be doing heavy lifting there

"pretty good"

[dry kindle]

It existsTM

[lime nacelle]

For Fangyi, is having Gilberta's sig enough to make her better than Anton for fights where you won't just be doing one ult and one-shotting?

[drifting quest]

the appeal of sig over stanza is 2 gilb ult per fangyi ult

antal vs gilb is still somewhat conditional due to sp usage gaps and a couple other factors

[lime nacelle]

Oh right, I guess her sig does give a buttload of UGE.

[potent hornet]

the largest of the loads

last unit of measurement before you start using craptons

[dry kindle]

🗿

[summer narwhal]

She got me through the last Umbral, that's all I can say

[main nova]

i totally forgot i have saved up sanity, damn its expired today

[proven fractal]

I been they'd be as an option that deducts points

[dry kindle]

I'm banning tacticals no matter what if it's an option

Purely because I CBA making stew meetings

[outer ermine]

💀 0 ult start and u start eating atleast 4 stew per try

[echo cove]

If 0 ult start, just have everyone w the 8% ult charge one to get 2 free ults, no?

[outer ermine]

3 pudding 1 stew if everyone needs to ult

[echo cove]

[rancid musk]

does art intensity on Perlica do anything?

[drifting quest]

improves the debuff applied by her electrification on combo skill

[rancid musk]

so it will improve dmg amp from electrification?

but if fangyi eats it, does enemy still take more dmg?

[drifting quest]

no

[molten grail]

No but Zhuang's cs will do a bit more damage I guess, but you have no other choice except ai anyway because you'll need to run qingbo gear for her

[rancid musk]

I was going to upgrade the art intes for her but i guess i dont need to now

thanks

[icy remnant]

I ended up using 26 sanity potions yesterday with 20 mins to expiry

I forgot they were expiring

[outer ermine]

[dry kindle]

Same

3am sanity stick burning

Can we get cc already I want out of here

[dry kindle]

Not even 9m

[waxen knoll]

any changes to these or nah not really? asking before i max artifice em
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1500738238409736293/image.png?ex=69f986e6&is=69f83566&hm=c4ceb6977f9f31643f5bd4d700d51afd8e5b6f43bba7727e8772c0f403baf432&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086681499496448/1500738506052341800/image.png?ex=69f98726&is=69f835a6&hm=2ddea26f3dcee2a913640869edd8a4f7bb819db020cd06110d9b6c0697397049&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=978&height=944

[cinder oxide]

Nah u gucchi

Most of the changes are for supps (excluding Chen and zfy)

[waxen knoll]

tangtang didn't change to qingbo if she's P1?

[swift onyx]

She changed to qingqo if shes not p1

[karmic burrow]

What does arts intensity mean? Ive been seing it in many gear but idk its meaning

[dry kindle]

Its ingame

[karmic burrow]

Is it in the tutorial? Ive been searching ingame but idk i may be stupid

[dry kindle]

detailed stats

[karmic burrow]

Alright i found it, idk how i missed it, thx

Does arts intensity affect everyone on the team or just that one op only?

[swift onyx]

Wielder

But suff like electrification and breach technicaly benefits the whole team

[karmic burrow]

Ok thx for the info, im trying to build tangtang support and idk if arts intensity can help the team

[swift onyx]

Nope

[bold rose]

is Wild Wanderer mandatory on Perlica in ZFY

[swift onyx]

Its basicaly the only helpful thing she can rum

[frozen tide]

ww isnt mandatory

its bis but

still doesnt do a whole lot

but neither does any other weap

thus its bis

[main nova]

mifu *6 sp regenerator+infliction trust

[summer narwhal]

is it even worth trying to +1 from 7-8 with Essences

or just use gel (250)?

I know 8-9 they say do that (450 gel)

[sturdy hill]

lets go gambling

[outer ermine]

fucking let and louch immediately coming for the score

4ults 16, 3ults 15 is crazy 💀

[dusk isle]

i just got my fastest nef phase 1 but run ended bcs lr got stuck under dragon form chin

[outer ermine]

whats ur time rn

[dusk isle]

consistent 21s for phase 1, 20s if lucky

aiming for 45s total

i got a 49s pre-timer change

and i believe i can shave the rest off with better piloting

[outer ermine]

isnt that fastest lr tt rn

[dusk isle]

idk i dont know how to use bilibili

i was looking for a way to skip lr ult on phase 2 but idk if my roster can output enough dmg

maybe if i had higher pots

but im not willing to test it out so im going for a kill that i know is possible with the dmg i have

in the 47s i just got my lr cs didnt connect

750k ish dmg from ult killed

that means if i hit a crit, ult would have been redundant

im having a stroke

[proud beacon]

dont do that.

[dusk isle]

@outer ermine

i dont think this was a crit, only hit for 588k

gonna test it again

[pliant stump]

give it any theories about possible endgame content in AKE?

[swift onyx]

Time based dps check slop as the rest (we dont know)

[outer ermine]

m back

theres only 53 its an ight run

[outer ermine]

whats ur phase2 rn, just cs4 ult and tt whatshit?

[dusk isle]

xai bs amp on both tt and lr

mirage > tt ult > tt bs > xai cs > lr cs

no lr ult

perli ult used in phase 1 so no perli ult as well

[outer ermine]

thought cs grind might be inconsistent but ig tt ult stops that

46-47 w ult? doable

[dusk isle]

i alr got a 46s with ult

[outer ermine]

ez 43 then

[dusk isle]

all these pots and i cant even compete with p0 zhuang time

2nd phase is so cancer tho

lr auto lock onto nefar

end up hitting brick wall and losing batk chain

[outer ermine]

need to run away first

even funnier w estella alesh, if u dont co cat its 80% chance ur gonna get ur ass interrupted

[dusk isle]

yea i do that but since i have to start phase 2 with tt co

every batk i do propells me into nefs ass

so i have to dash twice to atleast not get interrupted 🥀

[outer ermine]

[dusk isle]

would have been a 42-43s but only the base dmg of cs crit

[echo cove]

Gah demn

[dusk isle]

if you hit all lr cs crits 41s possible

[echo cove]

Sheesh

[gaunt mason]

🎣

[echo cove]

W8 is that solo lr or am just trippin

Where r u r other units

[dusk isle]

xaihi jumpscar

[echo cove]

Oh

Demn sub 45s is crazy doe

[dusk isle]

the ending is so bad

[echo cove]

20s ish for phase 2 is quite good for lr

[dusk isle]

also

[echo cove]

[dusk isle]

this shit is cheating wtf

in game timer ticks to 45, back to 44s

i gotta send this shit wtf

[echo cove]

Happens

[dusk isle]

oh you wanna hit sub 45s lr, just revert time

[outer ermine]

rewind is like when it ticks just b4 kill then just goes back

[echo cove]

[dusk isle]

yea i get the kill on that frame i think

[outer ermine]

theres more runs that can replicate that than the cs one

[dusk isle]

first time seeing it so i was surprised

does it count ?

ill grind for 42-43s anyway but im curious

[outer ermine]

its official so

blame hg

[echo cove]

Oh u r just foregoing lr ult?

Demn

Surprising

[dusk isle]

ye skip lr ult pray for crit

well i did get a crit in that run

[echo cove]

It's faster? Well I'll be damned then

[dusk isle]

but the wrong one

[echo cove]

Didn't think cs crit was enuf to kill it

[outer ermine]

post on bili, give lr whels hope

[echo cove]

Crazy stuff

[dusk isle]

i dont even have bili account 💀

if i get a good run that i am proud of

ill ask you for a title recommendation

[echo cove]

[daring dove]

Do you all think I should swap P5 Lifeng to slab?

With his P3 he'll gain stats from the subs on slab anyway.

[outer ermine]

[daring dove]

That seems like the correct play anyway. Boosted ATK by about 400.

Still got a ton of work to do on boosting his essence & artficing as well so I imagine it'll end up boosting it a lot more.

Once he's done.

[outer ermine]

oh

i can post it actually and just credit everything cn style

just need 3-4 ppl i know there to see it and work w the rot

[dusk isle]

you mean my rot ?

[outer ermine]

the run yea, theres prob 3 of them thats gonna bite and try to beat it

[dusk isle]

id be honored if you post it

ill try to get a better one

since i just gave up after seeing the cs didnt kill

im sending the 44s attempt rn

[outer ermine]

sounds like u need to grind on my acc

[dusk isle]

wtf black screen

i should have switched to tt co at the end while doing lr cs but forgot

[honest hill]

gift him P5P5s

then he will

[dusk isle]

also after watching the recording i realized i should cast xai ult before plunge

[outer ermine]

hold on my internet dying

on ur tt perlica cs, to ult sequence btw

[dusk isle]

btw 🗣️
im guessing your internet died ?

[outer ermine]

[echo cove]

Ith, why not lr ult instead of tt ult? Isn't that just gonna be faster?

U can tt bs to activate the sucep from whirl

Xai ult > lr ult > tt bs thingy

[dusk isle]

id need the dmg from tt ult regardless

or i need to fkin hit the jackpot and 3x crit my ult

[outer ermine]

ur .4 1p and .3 2p on that sequence, u can do that in less than .1 w 2 keys and alt; u just ticked to 21 b4 cutscene so if ur lucky u might be able to 19 it whether or not that fucks ur sp idk

[echo cove]

Oh, i thought the dmg from lr ult would be more than lr cs

[outer ermine]

w our timer

[echo cove]

Tt's ult is approx the same dmg as tt bs if u run bk tbh so like... It's just technically cheaper? Maybe?

[dusk isle]

yea but dry ulting wont get me enuf dmg

id need to lr cs before ult regardless

[chilly bolt]

Damn that's sweaty

[dusk isle]

and if im going to do lr cs anyway ill just hit tt ult

[echo cove]

Hm ok i see ur point

[outer ermine]

do u even make the burst b4 he gets back up

w o tt ult

[dusk isle]

if im going to pray on dry lr ult i think so

but i still believe lr ult wil be slower

[echo cove]

Cos i was thinking more in the line of:

Xai bs > Lr fs > xai ult > lr ult > tt bs

But idk if that's enuf dmg

[dusk isle]

since im running knives and not radars

and cant switch to radars due to phase1 constriction

[dusk isle]

alt + ult used to be clunky for me did they change it

i wasnt able to cast ult with alt + 2 while i was in batk animation

ill test it

[echo cove]

Oh w8 nvm ok i noticed my mistake. U needed that xaihi cs

[outer ermine]

can u xai ult in time here, u can just buffer jump after lr bs, ee, ult prob

[dusk isle]

also by 2 key you mean another binding for cs right ?

[outer ermine]

yea

just press em at the same time

[dusk isle]

ok got it

thanks for the feedback

[echo cove]

[outer ermine]

where is sin btw i need to inv ppl

get ppl ready for cc

[dusk isle]

i was thinking lr fs > jump > tt bs > perli xai cs > tt ult > xai ult > plunge

[dusk isle]

he is working rn i think i cant flex my nef times on him due to that

[outer ermine]

[dusk isle]

also, i could just stew meeting

[outer ermine]

unlucky cutscene btw 2s instead of 1

[dusk isle]

is it rng or something i can improve ?

[pure spoke]

Meating

[dusk isle]

stew conference

[outer ermine]

can time tick b4 skipping but its degenerate

ur gonna grind more right? audio where

[dusk isle]

i play low audio

it is there

just crank it up

i didnt bother while trimming the vid

if i get a good run ill amplify the auido a lil bit

like this would be good right

i messed up the batk chain but it was to try the method you gav eme anyway

[pure spoke]

Solo lr when

[dusk isle]

me when i (press the bs button and do a final strike) x4 and then press the cs button and then press the ult button

[tall swift]

whats your best time for nefarith? been practicing with zhuang and wanted to see how she holds up

[dusk isle]

rn 44s

[tall swift]

entire fight 44s?

[dusk isle]

yes

[tall swift]

wow

[dusk isle]

in game timer

[tall swift]

what team

im guessing lr also?

[dusk isle]

the same team in the vid posted 10 messages above

[tall swift]

damnn

[dusk isle]

yea

[tall swift]

holy nuke

[dusk isle]

i mean

zfy always faster

[outer ermine]

.133

yea

[dusk isle]

check out bluejays zfy vids

[outer ermine]

noice

[dusk isle]

thanks, sorry if i asked too much basic stuff, im still an amateur

[dusk isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59p60CJzXjM

[outer ermine]

most of cn is still behind mechanically theres only 2 big monsters ur fine

[tall swift]

holy

[dusk isle]

thanks for the feedback, ill be back on the grind

[outer ermine]

🤝

[tall swift]

damn

and people kept saying arclight is necessary

[dusk isle]

i think bluejay is working on a 38s nef

[tall swift]

well that was a fucking lie

[tall swift]

jesus

[dusk isle]

imagine 1 more batk landed crit

[tall swift]

lmaoooo

[outer ermine]

ill wait for ur run btw or this one if u cant fish for it

i need to work on my nef too

[dusk isle]

idk much about zfy, clown or kreative in tb will be better to ask about zfy

i have p3 zfy rotting in my backpack

[dusk isle]

blessing you with all of the crits

may your rossi achieve 101% cr

[outer ermine]

even worse

[dusk isle]

naked

[tall swift]

i think i understand what's going on tbh

been practicing a lot with her lately, i got all bosses to like, 2 minutes but definitely not what they have atm lol

[dusk isle]

well idk how hard zfy rots are mechanically tbh

but pretty sure you should be able to get them all below 1 min with relative ease

[tall swift]

akekuri definitely needed

[tall swift]

without akekuri probably not, gonna have to slot her for runs now

[torn pilot]

very very hard zfy is so mechanically challenging and definitely has a ton of skill expression

[dusk isle]

na without ake would be fine as well for sub 1 min

[tall swift]

really?

huh

[dusk isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFg-JPEuzlY

[outer ermine]

holy godly artif luck today

[dusk isle]

this was when zfy was freshly released

and before in game timer update

pretty sure you can get a sub50s even without p1

[tall swift]

i see i see

[dusk isle]

like i said i didnt watch them in depth so i cant recommend stuff

[tall swift]

im not using arclight efficiently is what im seeing tbh loll

all good

[dusk isle]

but you can ask about it in tb

with recordings ideally

[honest hill]

pretty sure w arclight u can get 40s maybe

[dusk isle]

prolly

i dont know how much luck is needed for these rots

you could just always fish for more crits

[tall swift]

thanks, is theory crafting not a good place to ask for this though?

[honest hill]

I mean without food buffs and cd I can get 25s first phase

[tall swift]

that is with arclight

[honest hill]

yes arclight can

[dusk isle]

i mean, i see more zfy mains active in tb

[tall swift]

[tall swift]

ahhh i see

[honest hill]

I think it'll be hard idk

the issue is just SP

[tall swift]

i mean it looks like bluejay uses akekuri to provide more damage to avoid the sp issue lol

but unsure

[honest hill]

but I do think w arclight is possible but it will be hard

[tall swift]

[honest hill]

maybe w level 4...

[pallid shell]

crazy

[dusk isle]

The ending was so bad i just gave up

Only the base dmg portion of cs crit anyway

So i was gonna rerun it regardless

Ngl even 40s might be possible with the improvements hifu gave

But that would need 4x crit prolly

Im wondering if it would be possible to squeeze out enough dmg in phase 1 without compromising sp economy in phase 2, for p0

[pallid shell]

I was thinking about cata xaihi, she need stews probably

[daring dove]

I did alright with the bits I did, got my second slab upgraded to max main attribute with 4 attempts. Not bad considering I didn't even have a "good" chance.

That was from 0 pips as well.

[dusk isle]

Weird question but im curious about it since how clunky the phase transition works
Can you re proc cata in phase 2?

Since phase transition has stupid interactions with xaihi bs/cs and tangtang whirlpools

Idk if it has smth similar with cata, since i never tested it

[pallid shell]

yes, it counts as a seperate battle

[dusk isle]

Crazy

So you get 1bs for free

[pallid shell]

zfy loses all of her swords too

[dusk isle]

Yea but it atleast shoes her losing the swords

Tt whirlpools stay in the ui but you cannot consume them

And the funnier thing is, you can proc xaihi cs but she swings her wand empty because the cube got deleted

[pure spoke]

LR solo when

that was the fastest delete

[dusk isle]

Sometime

[dusk isle]

Mods landed a crit on that delete

[pure spoke]

ikr

they aint playing around

[outer ermine]

my start is so ass but i dont wanna iframe the wave

[dusk isle]

i was going to get permanent eye damage if i kept trying to iframe the wave i use perl ult iframe bcs im bad at it

with the new cs bindings i am consistently getting 20s on phase 1

[outer ermine]

whel

[dusk isle]

close enough, welcome back stealth

[proven fractal]

Hmm. Making a kit for an Electric Gun caster oc that can make use of inflictions of other elements as a pilot main dps. Only question is how

[dusk isle]

fumbled my last ginseng with bad luck 🥀 🥀

back to akog

[proven fractal]

What happened

[dusk isle]

couldnt hit a crit for a whole 5min buff

[proven fractal]

Isn't that only possible for teams that have crit based members?

It's better to go for pure attack food

[dusk isle]

if you are willing to critfish for an eternity for me i have 500 jacub for you

if not let me use my ginseng in peace

[edgy crater]

jacub differences kinda small, u only do it if u wanna do 0.05^4

[gaunt mason]

endmin is such a bum she won’t crit

and ginseng isn’t enough damage

[gaunt mason]

give me a p1 lifeng when

[dusk isle]

your problem starts here

[gaunt mason]

endman is worse

[edgy crater]

i need him as well lol

john endfield crush crit b2b on my few run

[gaunt mason]

i don’t think i can hit sub 50 without p1 lifeng this rot is so ass

[dusk isle]

johnministrator better always

[gaunt mason]

yeah i need p1 lifeng or have pretty much everything crit

[edgy crater]

go crit fishing

[gaunt mason]

bro it's like

0.05^5*0.245^2

to make up for the lost sus and having to adjust for his vuln condition

[honest hill]

@outer ermine is so poor

he's been living on bread and water

[edgy crater]

just highroll it

[gaunt mason]

you do it

with lifeng p1 you just need to crit on both chen ults and endmin first phase crush

i hope he gets replaced soon what a chud

22s first phase and like 27s second phase just hit the 0.245*0.245*0.05

[gaunt mason]

every day the never rest banner calls to me

[edgy elk]

For the oblivion. I see you

[gaunt mason]

gv too

bro it's never going to go into the weapon shop

[edgy elk]

they said that about JET too

trust

[edgy crater]

do it

im also still tempting to get brigand crate

[edgy elk]

I just realized I somehow saved up 10 pulls on arsenal without knowing how

[edgy crater]

[gaunt mason]

[edgy elk]

Hnaf I pull brig or no

[gaunt mason]

what's in the brigand crate

[edgy elk]

p1

[edgy crater]

thermite/chival

[edgy elk]

chiv, therm, jet

[gaunt mason]

[edgy elk]

Jet? Dunno forgor

[dusk isle]

jet yes

[gaunt mason]

no oblivion rip

[edgy elk]

Does it have obli? I rmb it being pretty good

[gaunt mason]

wow clannibal

[edgy crater]

thermite chival already a hard temptation

[gaunt mason]

i think my corro values on the xaihi sheet were a little off for some reason

idk why

[edgy elk]

oh nope. Three fraud weps

[edgy elk]

Too low or high

[gaunt mason]

yeah gilb's corro was set to 209 for some reason oops

[edgy elk]

So it’s not 1.4M, and I’m halfway through my obli already

[gaunt mason]

like 1.3

[edgy elk]

oh well

good enough

I’ll get that as a phase 2 “one shot” and call it a day

[gaunt mason]

do it on marble

should be fine with gear on tangtang and an extra perly/gilb cs at the start

call it double dps

trust

[edgy elk]

It’s antal 300k vs marbs all over again

[gaunt mason]

yeah 145461 first hit + 1309151 second hit should be ok now

can they just make her finisher one hit like perly's

[dusk isle]

washing machine degen or ulpianus

[gaunt mason]

degen

[dusk isle]

alr

looks like it is ulpianus because i dont have chips for degen

[gaunt mason]

😔

[dusk isle]

haha funny blobonr man

[edgy elk]

Oi Ithrene Stronghold Protocol go

[dusk isle]

uuh

gimme 5 mins

spending sanity on story rn

[edgy crater]

time to lagfest lol

[edgy elk]

not w me kek im busy

[drifting quest]

no (guard) chips for degen but (guard) chips for ulpi

[edgy elk]

Go troll Randos

[dusk isle]

my ulpi alr e1 🥀 🥀

[edgy crater]

at least not momoka incident

preparing medic chip for her

[drifting quest]

malding

my first loss on kal2 banner was to her

[gaunt mason]

fixed perlica's elec too idk why it was broken
p0 on all 6 stars p5 on 5 stars

[dusk isle]

scammed

i want a refund on my maxed obli

[gaunt mason]

don't you have gilb p2 too

[dusk isle]

yes

[gaunt mason]

it's def more than 1.4 on the last hit then

[dusk isle]

scammed

[gaunt mason]

[dusk isle]

ask hnaf's gil

[gaunt mason]

does that exist

[dusk isle]

[gaunt mason]

p3 oblivion p2 gil

1.5m

[dusk isle]

can i type scammed again

[gaunt mason]

yes

[dusk isle]

scammed

[gaunt mason]

thank you green man

[dusk isle]

yw washing machine

[pallid shell]

https://youtu.be/BVz9mRsj1Lc?si=28c7Cq9POBWSQclk

[outer ermine]

[honest hill]

blame @outer ermine he didn't let you crit

[honest onyx]

between physical dmg boost and main attribute boost, which is better? cant decide if i should slab or not endmin

[drifting quest]

main att % is better typically but that doesn't mean you should just slab

slab + a mid onset will often lose to a (worse than slab but still good) onset and offpiece

[honest onyx]

i just looked into slab and it has will and INT

which means those two stats alone arent suited for endmin

[outer ermine]

might need to go aether endmin for nef or i sack a +2s for consistency

[dusk isle]

you gotta fish for it hifu you gotta fish for it hifu you gotta fish for it hifu 🐟

or ask stealth to fish for you

[honest onyx]

why is there fishing involved

alesh shatter with endmin?

[frozen tide]

[dusk isle]

aleshlover25

[proven fractal]

I still find it funny that she's so strong she triggers the bonecrushers boss no matter what

[outer ermine]

it needs fin+
crush crit + decent rossi crit
or all in rossi crit

rossi needs stew so its insta -1

im already using xira, frontiers

😭

[honest onyx]

bonekrusha

[dry kindle]

Ew shatter

[dusk isle]

does alesh need 2 redeemer kit uge or can you run 1 tube

[outer ermine]

just frontiers + redeem armor

i have enuf that i can do the cat cs cut 2nd phase

[dry kindle]

P5 whel

[dusk isle]

smarted atleast you can max the gold fih chance

[outer ermine]

oh casual 44 run

w endmin ult lmao

i can plan my phase2 now ig

i hate this boss

gib me -2cs cd

[dusk isle]

I go slep now
Not that bluejay uploaded his vid you have the blessing

[outer ermine]

[dusk isle]

Do whatever you want with the bless, but dont give it to stealth

Rude, s.ln, rude

Bruh acting like help banned

Communicating thru reacts

[edgy elk]

night ith

[dusk isle]

Gnight s.ln

[edgy elk]

-# so i just artificed ai on qb gil and str on xira tt

-#

[dusk isle]

Crazy

I wish i had that type of financial stability

[edgy elk]

24 left + 20 leftover in shop to artifice ai chest on qb gil 🔥

then i go 🐠ing

[dusk isle]

Fight over the blessing with hifu

[outer ermine]

nef planning done, do need pudding for rossi ult

[dry kindle]

L

[pure spoke]

ee

[potent hornet]

thought the pudding was frowned on

[frozen tide]

frown of perseverance

[waxen knoll]

qingbo tangtang or bonekrusha tangtang?

[potent hornet]

qingbo p0, bone p1+

[waxen knoll]

no need for UGE in P1 right

[potent hornet]

if you are doing umbral stuff you will probably want it. everything else it isn't really needed

its mostly useful to get the time down on her CS. Her P1 takes off 2 seconds and makes her CS pretty comfy for most situations.

getting that actually steals some of the power off the cooldown recovery

her CS is clunky as all hell without the cooldown recovery

[outer ermine]

another idea for rhod

this mf will never leave my mind i swear

[edgy crater]

rhodagon became ur ex from school era

u know its done, but u still thinking it

[outer ermine]

[honest hill]

u dated rhodagn because he was huge

[soft tendon]

Hifumi jamaican confirmed?

[summer narwhal]

Does Lifeng even need UGE?

[swift onyx]

Well, why not

1 lifeng ult = 3 vuln stacks

Its quite massive

[summer narwhal]

Fair

[sturdy hill]

a bazillion uge

[tawny lagoon]

by how much % can I boost team damage by giving TT sig over p5 battle pass gun? Yvonne TT team btw

[summer narwhal]

What I got him in now

[drifting quest]

Varies from 5-10% to like 20-30%

[tawny lagoon]

damn, that much?

[drifting quest]

Two extreme ends

[tawny lagoon]

I feel like her ult doesnt add enough utility that you need for damage or am I wrong?

[swift onyx]

Her ult has the big dmg burst
And time stop that can stop phase transitions, so

[tawny lagoon]

but Yvonne is main dmg dealer in the team

[swift onyx]

And tang still contributes to team dmg

[tawny lagoon]

true, just wish she had more utility

[dusk isle]

What counts as utility for you

[rocky monolith]

Which one is better for Anywenna? Bonekrusha Poncho T1 or MI Security Overall T2 for body?

[tawny lagoon]

I guess arts suscept debuff or team amp or something to make her last longer and not be replaced by future units

[swift onyx]

She does have arts susc tho

[dusk isle]

She has arts susc on her kit and arts dmg taken on her sig

Also allows quick acces to stacks for (current) cryo dpses

Which allows various new rots (at least for lr)

[crystal flicker]

and an ult that can stop enemy actions, which gives her a pretty solid spot in Ice teams until they decide to make another support with better buffs and scales ig

Yvonne is far easier to be replaced imo

[molten orchid]

how much % is Fangyi's P1?

[potent hornet]

it will be quite a while before TangTang gets outclassed. her kit is loaded

[swift onyx]

From what i saw, aboit 8-9%

[daring dove]

Is he P0?

Starting to reach decent starts on my Lifeng anyway although he's still half built rn.

[potent hornet]

huh, i really didn't look at him close enough. The dmg from 2 off stats seems pretty good

[daring dove]

There's an ATK buff in there as well. But that would be his actual ATK in combat in a PHY team. Without it (just his personal buff) which is 100% uptime in combat.

He's over 6k ATK.

[potent hornet]

still pretty solid

i assume you have him A5?

[daring dove]

Yep, he's pretty much maxed out, outside of his essence & weapon potentials & a bit more artificing now.

I think fully maxed out he'll reach nearly 9K ATK with just Thermite's ATK buff from Pog.

[potent hornet]

kinda funny, kinda makes him a dress up ken doll. He could wear anything while still getting some sort of attack buff from it

[daring dove]

Yeah, that's why slab is low-key kinda goated on him. He actually wants that Will / INT stat to give him something to build off.

[potent hornet]

Here Lifeng, wear this and hold this weapon.

Lifeng: these will make me fight better right?

Anakin:

[summer narwhal]

Yes

[dusk isle]

@outer ermine i got a (would have been) 41s run, but couldnt hit the crit

[summer narwhal]

Correction, p1

[dusk isle]

@pallid shell @edgy elk pretty much the finalized version of the rot, would have liked to ping you guys in an attempt where i got the crit tho 🥀

[honest hill]

could've been like 40 maybe

[dusk isle]

40s, sure
sub40, prolly not

[honest hill]

yeah

[dusk isle]

my pb for phase1 is 19s

but i got unlucky with nado this attempt

on phase1

[honest hill]

that and the end

42s

[dusk isle]

lr cs connects at 41s

few frames later lr cs connects, pretty sure 252k more dmg kills here

[honest hill]

yeah

[dusk isle]

would have been 41s with shadow crit

[honest hill]

think you should ask @outer ermine to fund ur LR so it's P5P5

[dusk isle]

my tt fund more important rn

i need to be blessed by p3 tt

i wish 1 or 2 or 3 of my zhuang fangyis were tangtang

[honest hill]

well @outer ermine can fund ur tt as well

he's so rich

[outer ermine]

dem close

money cant make u crit

[dusk isle]

if you are free can you check if i have anything major to fix like the 2 button cs

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-5264665088346427047

[pallid shell]

i can get 34s nef with 4 crits

actually got kinda close lol

[dusk isle]

you mean 34s p0 fangyi gg im throwing the towel

[pallid shell]

getting 4 crits is literally 0.1% odds tho

[dusk isle]

basically lr gaming

with jacubs

wait lr with jacub is still 2.5x more likely to land a true crit than 0.1%

good luck

is there a faster p0 zfy nef than urs

[pallid shell]

someone did it in 38s as well but slightly faster

[dusk isle]

what if you hit 34s

[pallid shell]

...

[dusk isle]

thatd be the fastest right

[pallid shell]

almost certainly

[dusk isle]

imagine the glory

[pallid shell]

imagine my mental after fishing 0.1%

[dusk isle]

atleast zfy dont lose attempts to phase1 kb or phase2 resistance

how hard is the rot mechanically

[pallid shell]

pretty easy lol

[dusk isle]

das good to hear, and you only chug 1 ginseng stew

p sure youll get it faster than me at this rate

this is the bs i have to put up with

[pallid shell]

not the bluetooth wall

[outer ermine]

not that much to work w its pretty solid rn

[dusk isle]

https://tenor.com/view/seiun-sky-fish-uma-musume-uma-agnes-tachyon-gif-12539106801576494186

thanks hifu couldnt have done it without you

[outer ermine]

just a bit slower on phase 2, also u have a habit of dashing towards nef during lr ba2 cancel

pref backdash and dont hit the mf at all w lr basics

just something to get used to

.6 on last sequence w lr cs xai ult w hold

[dusk isle]

if i backdash would i even have enough to close the distance with fs

i dont really do it to hit nef but instead close the gap

oh you mean for phase 1 ?

[outer ermine]

both phases, if u arent too far then u should naturally get sucked in w ba3, fs

[dusk isle]

ill try to get used to it for a few attempts

foodless

[dusk isle]

my brain just didnt register that i should have done cs + alt + ult on that moment i realized that

i dont have as much practice on phase 2 as i do on phase 1 so i tend to miss some small details in phase 2

[outer ermine]

yea figured, muscle memory on phase 1 was way better

[dusk isle]

if i just push thru phase 1, i dont have enough sp to do the rot on phase 2

so i have to get a crit on phase1 to get practice on phase 2

[outer ermine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kOtGVIujExY77MaBUD

[dusk isle]

i still think i did kinda good on phase 2

tho i know there is still to improve upon

also one more ask

why is backdashing preferred

[outer ermine]

stationary is a bit faster, and its better for lr to hit air rather than deal w hitstop

[dusk isle]

just imagine this as a gif

the link got automodded

the caption without spacebars

alr ill try to fit those changes in tomorrow

when i have ginseng again

thanks hifu

[outer ermine]

no hitstop on lr fs is possible too but its not something u aim for

[dusk isle]

oi oi chill

im not that advanced

[outer ermine]

soon

[dusk isle]

soon my finals

[honest hill]

Hifumi can be your sensei

[outer ermine]

bros grinding instead of studying as expected of house

[honest hill]

It's all your fault

[dusk isle]

bruh i just gave electronics 2 midterm this thursday cut me some slack

[honest hill]

No you're going to be working overtime

[dusk isle]

stfu peasant

whels talking

[honest hill]

You're a special peasant like hifumi

[outer ermine]

glgl

[honest hill]

He farms all day everyday on the fields

To make ginseng

[dry kindle]

Just whel for farm slave

[outer ermine]

u, when

[dry kindle]

When you fund me

[honest hill]

you gotta fund for it but everyone knows ur too poor for that peasant

[chilly raft]

☝️ 1 team done

not even touch them yet

[pallid shell]

lr bugged in nef p2
using her skill but no ult gain

[dusk isle]

You know, i am not even surprised at this point

Another cryo bug added to the list

[pallid shell]

would be 50s run if it worked

[dusk isle]

What did you cook

Cata xaihi ?

[pallid shell]

yes

[dusk isle]

How much crit does it need

Would* it need

[dry kindle]

[pallid shell]

4 out of 8 (2 ult 2 cs)

aka not likely

[woeful timber]

Lol anything is possible if you’re determined enough

[dry kindle]

Not even 8/8

Smh

[outer ermine]

@edgy crater https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1w6RJBFEnD
ur turn

[edgy crater]

my dapan still shit

[outer ermine]

smh

[edgy crater]

also give me better rig

[bold rose]

is this still the optimal Lae gear

[drifting quest]

not universally, never was

[potent hornet]

that is the basic catch all set for everyday use. Optimal depends on the content you are doing

[ashen smelt]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[ashen smelt]

Any confirmation of dossier gonna convert in 14th may?

[dry kindle]

It won't

Inb4 localization incident

It specifies chartered banner which fest isnt sooooo

[swift onyx]

It is not

[warped sorrel]

fangyi p0p0 vs p5p5

how dif is the dps %

[edgy elk]

@outer ermine alesh stupided me
dashcanceling his fs pt2 eats ur SP
pt1 does stagger, pt2 gives SP

[outer ermine]

thats hilarious

[merry kite]

what's the point of defenders

[swift onyx]

Counters

+needes for wonderous medal

[merry kite]

can dot crit? I'm sure it can, right?

[swift onyx]

Rossi's dot crits, so presumably

[frozen tide]

They are good for survivability

Built ember is like immortal

[gritty briar]

catcher doesn't even feel that tanky imo

like unless you specifically build something tanky. but you could do that with anyone really or even like have a lynx set healer and have more survivability

[wild rose]

from what source

[merry kite]

rossi?

[wild rose]

Rossi's can, yeah

Just a part of her talent

[merry kite]

a, i see

[frozen tide]

Ok but like

Catcher is catcher

😭

[gritty briar]

😔

[frozen tide]

Snowshine and ember are very much tanky

[gritty briar]

if only catcher had some healing in his kit...

a shield every combo skill isn't enough

especially since it's every 33 seconds

[frozen tide]

Catcher is

A very unfortunate character

Extremely unfortunate

[gritty briar]

at least the parry sounds cool!

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV1yrRxBQEfk
my goat tried the strat

[wild rose]

Why would he not use the 3pc Catastrophe set on Estella here

I feel like this is a 25s clear if u just get enough sp for Endmin BS before phase change there

25s in video time anyway

[pine sky]

what's the greatest food damage buff in the game?

[wild rose]

Jakub's Legacy in general or for 5% critfish, Ginseng Meat Stew if you wanna critfish but with increased CR

[pine sky]

right thanks

[drifting quest]

Ginseng can be higher atk in some cases but its usually jakubs that wins

[pine sky]

aight

[daring dove]

With just Lifeng's self buff... What an annoying amount of ATK.

Just got a few strength pips I artifice on gear at least to push past 6k.

at Least when I apply all the buffs he's starting to look nasty.

[peak root]

Not even m12 smh

[honest hill]

Striker is poor

cut him some slack

[peak root]

Bruh

Just get a job on gawd

🙃🙃🙃

[daring dove]

[dusk isle]

Today was my day hit a 0.016% event

no crits for 50 attempts

[pallid shell]

i thought you meant the reverse, tragic

[dusk isle]

this is the attempt that broke the bad streak

if only i hit a crit on phase 2 as well

[pallid shell]

no fish today = lots of fish tomorrow

[dusk isle]

well i did get a lot better at phase 2

despite only getting 3 attempts where i got to phase 2

i have 2 more ginseng soup

1 last session for today

@pallid shell

BLOW THE HORNS OF VICTORY, SUB 40S LR IS POSSIBLE

[pallid shell]

YO lets goo 🥳

i knew my queen could do it

[edgy elk]

fishers bless me I’m going for it again

[dusk isle]

be blessed

[edgy elk]

fishfishfishfi

[dusk isle]

[edgy elk]

just need rare fih and crit

[dusk isle]

just

[edgy elk]

you trying for two LR cs crits inspired me to not slep

[dusk isle]

was it the me not getting any cs crits for 50 attempts back to back that inspired you

[edgy elk]

your dedication