theorycrafting

[edgy crater]

w8 from which one

[edgy elk]

yvonne's crit damage?

[edgy crater]

ye

i know its p3 n p5 effect

[edgy elk]

50% default
+60% when hitting solid
+60% on ult
+30% on p5

[edgy crater]

oh yeah ulti give cdmg too

[edgy elk]

look inside, hifu's p5 artzy is worth more than all my gear artifices put together

[outer ermine]

looks inside, p5 all

[edgy elk]

bro goes in with 14 extra suscep

[edgy crater]

if u no need xaihi ulti, cant u just use alesh with p5 thermite lol

[edgy elk]

stack

alesh is ultbanned too

[edgy crater]

aleshcs

[edgy elk]

i was thinking xai's cryo stack

10% dmg taken, p5 chiv buff, xiranite

[edgy crater]

tang2 can handle it

[edgy elk]

ig u wouldnt rly miss corro2->1

[echo cove]

[edgy elk]

maybe thermite +14%, frontier, and +15% from fih can make up for it? can that baby SP from alesh cs allow yvonne to do bs near the end?

[edgy crater]

no idea lol

[edgy elk]

i'l...try 🪦

[edgy crater]

i never like nor care yvonne

[echo cove]

[edgy elk]

pause. ults stall for operator-swapping too

-# more testing later: totally unnecessary

[outer ermine]

can prob do smt like yv fs, ult, tt... yv

[edgy elk]

the run's sorta boring ngl

there's no tech anywhere

yvonne ult has built in super armor

[edgy elk]

oh hifu, i think speed limit's 16s if u wanna kill with yvonne's efs

fs at ~4sec, yvonne ult immediately, ends at 6s

then +7s = 13s, plus gil ult and some timeslow would be 16s

[outer ermine]

already had cn guy map it, 15.8 w 1dash and fsmvtech

but the midair becomes inconsistent cuz of earlier aggro

[edgy elk]

one dash?

is that when u fs him when he's falling down

right before he hits

then ult iframe

?

[outer ermine]

u warp w fs to get closer instead of another dash, have to walk a bit after 1st dash

[edgy elk]

oh

[outer ermine]

rn they have estella start to be -.3 vs tt

[edgy elk]

i'm testing estella rn

is midair fs possible

like when he's falling down

[outer ermine]

yea

[edgy elk]

oh i got it

it is possible

but not much faster

[outer ermine]

it should just be insta bs and ba on load

[edgy elk]

yeah

[outer ermine]

u hit at like

3.1~ iirc, prob biiiit later

[edgy elk]

surely we can do something with double catas on xai and estella

[edgy elk]

guess not

[outer ermine]

i should revisit cat start on shatter run

fuck i dont remember if i did rossi fs on those tests or not

[ocean turret]

im thinking twice on playing og ak

how good is it? am i going to play it for 8 hrs a day?

[marsh grove]

more like 2 hours a day

you level up characters and do as much as you can and then you need level up characters again

[woven drift]

How big is the gap between Navigator and Artzy Tyrannical on Yvonne?

They look kinda similar, just one bonus activates on crit and the other on solidification

Plus nav has more crit

[drowsy quail]

maygi used this graphic in her yvonne guide from a few months back.

[woven drift]

Are these all at pot 0?

wait nvm i just read the graph more

ty

im guessing Artzy Tyrannical has more uptime

affecting the value

or maybe it's the value of crit falling off, which nav has more of

[daring dove]

If you have P0 Artzy just use that I think is the common sense approach even if you have P5 Wedge. As honestly the trigger condition for Wedge means its uptime for general gameplay will be lower.

The extra 3% theortical damage isn't worth the drawbacks.

[lime nacelle]

Would Tangtang with her sig be a bigger damage boost for Rossi than Akekuri with Thermite?

[daring dove]

I mean what team are you using that's the optimal Rossi team.

Akekuri ain't in it

[obsidian hollow]

I'd like to see a graph like this for every Op

[lime nacelle]

This but with Akekuri instead of Tangtang.

Except I don't have her sig and I'm considering it. Not just for Rossi, but because I also have Yvonne.

-# Also don't have Thermite. Thanks, game.

So I can't even begin to consider the difference.

[daring dove]

Just get her sig Tangtang is arguably the best operator in the game. It's a worth while investment. 07

[lime nacelle]

B-But Gilberta sig is coming, surely..... I should get THAT instead!

Just kidding, that ship has sailed.

[daring dove]

I'd say Tangtang's sig is better the Gils anyway. Since Tangtang doesn't have a good alternative.

Gil does.

[lime nacelle]

The thing is, I also have Rossi and Fangyi sig to consider. I've kinda given up on Rossi's sig since she's already doing big damage.

(And because I've already put a lot of resources into this.)

So the only thing stopping me from getting Tangtang sig is Fangyi.

[lime nacelle]

Yeah I guess when you consider her BP weapon doesn't help team damage at all, that makes sense.

[drifting quest]

a bunch of nuance to it

since in some cases gilb sig is irreplacable while in all* cases tangtangs is
but damage gains can still bias tangtangs sig even in the aforementioned case

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk

[drifting quest]

tldr like pick whatever you want it doesnt really matter

[outer ermine]

but i got extremely lucky w my alesh ult timing lmao

literally pixel perfect gold flash then ult next frame

uses same fs tech as my 14.3 lr rot; no hitlag

my 2 day slaccing paid off my cs speed is pretty good rn

[outer ermine]

..

i can sub 16

[lime nacelle]

For Rossi team does it matter what set I use for Tangtang? Considering I won't be spamming her combo skill.

[daring dove]

Can just use the BS DMG set in that team to be honest.

Although it might hold your back in other teams.

If Tangtang is P1 she doesn't need CS set.

[lime nacelle]

I'm just using her with Yvvone and Rossi.

Nah she's P0.

[chilly bolt]

Is qingbo still good if p1 or it becomes too fast ?

[lime nacelle]

Qingbo is a good quality of life for Yvonne during long fights tho.

BUTTT I'm more interested in Rossi TBH.

[daring dove]

It's ok, but realistically you're just going to be limited by SP before long rather than CS cooldown. I recommend all P1 Tangtang owners just keep with the original set.

[chilly bolt]

Ye so it's too fast to keep up with

[daring dove]

Yeah that an honestly 15% more ATK is better than 15% CS reduction as long as it doesn't impact your rotation.

Which with P1 it's very unlikely to do anyway.

[chilly bolt]

But since there's no hard content that needs it i wouldn't change my already maxed bone set even with p0 tt

[leaden tartan]

Makes sense. Off the top of my head I'd say that the altered damage contribution would actually do more to mitigate the loss of 15% attack if you have p1. But if it's just not practical, it's not practical.

[honest hill]

@dusk isle get a recording of 44s

[dusk isle]

I havent gotten it yet

I have to work on the rot

[honest hill]

how close

oh

[dusk isle]

Change the timeline a bit

[honest hill]

is ake better than arc in zhuang team for speedruns

[dusk isle]

Im out of ginseng

[honest hill]

rip

@pallid shell yk for ur zhuang nefarith speedruns what's the fastest u got without food buffs and stew

[honest hill]

wish we had infinite

[pallid shell]

without food is gonna be tough for p0, if you can't clear it in 1 fangyi ult then she hits like a wet noodle until the next ult

[honest hill]

My fastest clear is 1:26 could've been 1:20 I can get 25s phase 1

been trying different things

[dusk isle]

Sory idk i havent ran zhuang yet

[honest hill]

how

You have her

[stable oxide]

@odd wren are there any changes with the new set for pog lifeng endmin chen team? with the 1.2 sets i mean

[pallid shell]

thats pretty good. how are you doing p2, are you clearing it on stagger?

[dusk isle]

Too busy with school / all of my akef time goes to fishing with lr

[honest hill]

yeah that's the only way at most I can half health boss w the remaining ult

at P0

[outer ermine]

come rossi and fish 27 crits isntead

[drifting quest]

real players never miss a crit

[honest hill]

true

[odd wren]

Nope

[stable oxide]

thanks goat

[honest hill]

Hi Endmin

[outer ermine]

when u grjnding for me shuo ill do the per rot

[odd wren]

[honest hill]

grind for urself peasant smh

[drifting quest]

premium pricing

[honest hill]

how's whel life

premium?

[odd wren]

Whut i just doing events and dailies didnt even bought battle pass, just waiting for cc content to go out, if it sux i go byebye

[honest hill]

go byebye?

Where

[odd wren]

Go quit lul

[honest hill]

bruh

no stay

u whel

provide for dev

[dry kindle]

No u whel

[honest hill]

u whel

wish I could stream here

to see my whel zhuang

is p0

[dusk isle]

Stealth whel stream

[honest hill]

[dusk isle]

Grand total of 0.5 pulls

[honest hill]

yeah okay I can half health the boss in 2nd phase

but then it's cooked af

I also need 2 vuln stacks

[dusk isle]

Just p2 gil it

[honest hill]

600k crit

no joke

maybe p5p5 is like

2M+

Who knows

[dusk isle]

I only got p3p0

And i havent tested her dmg yet

[honest hill]

damn

nah u can easily get 1:15

or less

1:00

[outer ermine]

should be fucking illegal to be able to cancel rossi bs wolf w cs2

[dusk isle]

Isnt p0 alr 40s

[honest hill]

w ginseng + stews + cd food yes

[peak root]

Who wants to see my sub 1hr arc solo nef run? Jk I don’t have one

[honest hill]

[dusk isle]

Stealth cant even afford food

[honest hill]

I don't wanna waste

@outer ermine farm for me pls

[outer ermine]

grind my sub 16

its ez

[honest hill]

gimme ur whel acc

[dry kindle]

Get your own whel

[honest hill]

@dry kindle what's echoing dust

[dry kindle]

Wut

[honest hill]

for the new cd consumable

it say u need echoing dust

[dusk isle]

New thing

Essence thing

Alluvium

Enemies from there drop it i think

[honest hill]

oh

okay

[honest hill]

I didn't get

[dry kindle]

Skill issue

Be luckier

[edgy crater]

new marker essence drop rate seems higher for +3/+4

[dusk isle]

Im not sure if we are talking about the same drop lmao

Ill hop on in game in a few mins i can check

[honest hill]

I just did the marker stone essence thing 2 times

didn't get

[dusk isle]

Im gonna check

[honest hill]

okay whel

wow

zhuang sucks so much out of ult

she deals like 0 damage

[dusk isle]

Just tangtang it

[honest hill]

yeah

I do that now

we need an elec vg to save fangyi team

the sp is non existent

[dusk isle]

P3 gives sp return

[honest hill]

arclight is garbo

[honest hill]

[dry kindle]

Just ult faster

[honest hill]

You should get banned

[dusk isle]

Just ult faster is a good tip as well

P4 gives that, you should get it

[honest hill]

gimme P4

[honest hill]

I cook

[outer ermine]

ur cooked

[honest hill]

ur cooked

cooked whel

medium rare

[dusk isle]

Bruh stealth

[honest hill]

what

[dusk isle]

the alluvium does drop the item

[honest hill]

I never got it

did it 3 times in a row

why u lie

[honest hill]

Yeah I never got it

[dusk isle]

try inside the cube

few of these enemy exist inside i think

[honest hill]

uh where

[dusk isle]

the feranmut heart or whatever, no ?

inside the marker stone

btw it might be related to

if you kill the enemy

since they can blow up

if they blow up they might not drop the item maybe idk

[honest hill]

Bruhh

[dusk isle]

some enemy in dark souls 2 did that

[honest hill]

That's so dumb

[dusk isle]

idk if it is like that

i am getting them

[honest hill]

I'll see tomorrow

If it drops

[dusk isle]

but i only got 2

[honest hill]

Maybe Zhuang sucks thats why no drop

[outer ermine]

rip tt

[dusk isle]

i think it is just bad drop rate @honest hill, i got 2 of them to drop back to back by letting them explode themselves

[honest hill]

That sucks

[honest hill]

why

[inland barn]

@ripe adder do you exist rn

[dry kindle]

No one exists rn

[neon cave]

does akekuri's link buff the entirety of laev's ult's basic attacks?

[drifting quest]

no, casting laev ult consumes the link to do absolutely nothing

because laev ult cast does no damage

and link only buffs anything directly related to the cast

same applies to like yvonne and fangyi

[neon cave]

so it only buffs ult dmg and battle skill dmg

but laev's ult technically deals no uult dmg and only basic atk dmg cuz it's a basic attack buff

[drifting quest]

laev ult cast is a state change
so link buffs that state change and then expires
then laev has enhanced basic attacks during ult

compared to something like perlica ult, which does damage on cast

you can see the same on like pog
Pog ult has damage on cast and then later damage tied to steel oath
link will buff the damage dealt on cast but not the later damage

[dry kindle]

Isn't TT ult goofy with link

[neon cave]

i see, thanks

[shrewd granite]

tell me....how to maximize this team power?
especially on rotation

[edgy elk]

yup, link applies to both the ult itself and all nados procced with ult

[gritty olive]

link buffs gets used when someone uses a battle skill or ultimate
surtr ult is a state change, and it will use the link buff

its effectively useless

[neon cave]

but it works for multi hit ults right? like with rossi's ultimate, the link buff should be active for all 27 hits and not just the 1st hit?

[ripe adder]

no buddy I have a work like balance

[inland barn]

so i did some testing and apparently using the stew meeting tactical does give a bit of extra damage output
ran rhodagn 3 times and without got 1:40, 1:41 and 1:46 times and with got 1:32, 1:34 and 1:34

[gritty olive]

Yes

[ripe adder]

dang

so it actually works holy shit

[inland barn]

each run does eat like 15-20 of those so you do need a good afk fillet/slug meat grinder

but yea if you need that bit of dps boost then thats a thing

[ripe adder]

FIFTEEN?

hey this might actually be the only consumable being consumed I might be fine with it

[inland barn]

4 uses per battle
x4 team members
+whatever extra you get by "uses are restored after depletion"

[ripe adder]

don't use it on everyone maybe

[outer ermine]

she bout to get penetrated

[grand lagoon]

[frozen tide]

😭

Hifumi....

[dry kindle]

what no cc does to a mf

[honest hill]

Tangtang's brother will cook you

[edgy elk]

he's a medal on our wall

[honest hill]

[outer ermine]

he ded

[honest hill]

okay whel

[odd wren]

Why is my zhuang stat so high, slab really op? Hmm p0p0 withut food buffs or wuling buff

[swift onyx]

Cuz both her stats match slabs
Has the highest base main stat in the game
Her weapon has atk%

[odd wren]

Zamn

[odd wren]

They love her so much huh

[swift onyx]

Also lvl9 her batk

Now

[odd wren]

Ohh

[swift onyx]

[odd wren]

Should i?

[swift onyx]

Yes

[odd wren]

Wait

[swift onyx]

Shes main dps
Ofc u should

[odd wren]

I just built her just now xd

[sour gazelle]

slab main attribute directly buffs the base atk that many other atk buffs scale on a lynx slab with only stat 3 maxed gives like +1k atk on most characters

[odd wren]

Donezo

[sturdy hill]

i crave for her sig

[swift onyx]

I crave for u

[hexed terrace]

I thought you weren’t gay

[swift onyx]

Post this in #do-not-post-or-get-beaned

[outer ermine]

bruh

[sterile patrol]

@forest lily

?

[forest lily]

still in testing

[sterile patrol]

if you need uge it just calcs better with new gloves + slabge

the main attribute alone makes it worth to run uge chest i found

[honest hill]

whel smh

[daring dove]

Man this event

[drifting quest]

its a web event right

[daring dove]

Yep get a couple of avatars from it for your profile.

[drifting quest]

i like my arknights avatar so prob wont swap but i guess its a new endfield one to use

[warped sorrel]

hmm avatar

[daring dove]

Closing in on my 20th level 90 with maxed out skills now (minus masteries).

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk big fuckin idea lol it works even better

can maybe peak .25 but thats prob it

[potent hornet]

lost a 50/50 to ardelia, 2 single pulls later P1 Fang!!

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[potent hornet]

you got 20 days

i have 49 to my first fang token as well

next paycheck i will probably knock that out

[merry kite]

pssst, who's interested in fankit stuff?

[bold rose]

someone remind me how to ani cancel Rossi BS?

[icy remnant]

Wait I can claim for both games at once

[dry kindle]

I can slack and do neither at once

[merry kite]

[dense plank]

dash as soon as the wolf projectiles come out

[merry kite]

@drifting quest decided to make crit uge conversion to be 1:1 in the fankit
also, what do you think of another idea?

sec, i'll write it here

striker, 6 star, heat
bskill: 1st press - dmg, if there are 1+ stacks, consumes 1 stack, unlocks 2nd sequence of bskill that can be done via 2nd press; 2nd press (if there are 1+ stacks) - consumes 1 stack dmg; 3rd press (if there are 1+ stacks) - consumes remaining stack, giga dmg (dmg increased per stack consumed), heat infl afterwards
cskill: trigger - when there are 3+ arts reaction on the enemy; deals dmg and consumes all arts reaction from enemy and gains same amount of stacks for bskill
ult: dmg and combustion
combat talent 1: if reaction have 2+ status, gains additional stack for every status above 1; for every stack gained - self buff up to 5 times

[drifting quest]

3+ arts reaction is a mighty brutal trigger condition, you might mean infliction

same for talent

somewhat interesting laev adjacent concept otherwise

[merry kite]

no, no, reaction

[drifting quest]

if you mean reaction its prob unplayable

[merry kite]

oh, they can't be place on enemy at the same time?

[drifting quest]

they can it's just like really hard to get 3 reactions

perlica combo is 1
something like ard combo is 2
then you need a third, something like arclight ult

if you want to do it for 0 sp

but that bricks teambuilding

trying to do it without spending sp bricks rotations

you also have uptime on reactions to consider, so you're further gated

[merry kite]

i actually thought that the desired team would be 2 vanguards here (since for mass nuke you have to spend 3 sp immediately)

would 2 reactions be alright?

[drifting quest]

even that might suck

[merry kite]

daym

also, i forgot to add that if this dps applies combustion on combusted enemy, comb status increases

[merry kite]

actually, there was a different idea about that
bskill consumes reactions for more sequences instead
cskill applies combustion (let's say, trigger is if there is an arts reaction)
ult does something

[drifting quest]

much nicer to play version

[merry kite]

bskill still needs 3+ arts reaction for mass nuke

anyway, thanks for feedback on both kits

[merry kite]

would it be too much if both cskill and ult apply combustion?

[drifting quest]

prob not

[merry kite]

ooh, nice

bro is more caster than striker, bruh

[drifting quest]

apply inflictions > caster
consume inflictions>reactions > striker

[merry kite]

well, true

oh, got the idea, ult can consume fire infl for applying comb

[dry kindle]

Or 600sp

[hexed terrace]

Unless your name is endmin

[merry kite]

Who wanna check fankits

[fringe dirge]

Is there a certain threshold of ATK where Jakub's Legacy is better than Ginseng Meat Stew?

[drifting quest]

667 base attack

iirc

[fringe dirge]

I'm trying to hit a 1mil crush on Da Pan

Right now my buffers are
Thermite Cutter max arts intensity Pog
Eternal Xiranite Lifeng
Currently I have chen there, but I think I could replace her with a buffer

[drifting quest]

if your goal is merely max screenshot damage you dont need chen

[fringe dirge]

What buffer do I even put in there

[drifting quest]

ardelia, probably

[fringe dirge]

Maybe I'm better off replacing Lifeng with Alesh + Estella
And then Ardelia last slot

I don't have pog sig tho

Then I coulda run thermite alesh, pog with sig

[drifting quest]

not sure why but if you want to do it

[fringe dirge]

Estella has a higher susceptibility than Lifeng
Ardelia would then hold eternal Xiranite
Alesh has 15% atk buff from rare fin

I'm just trying to stack as many buffs as possible

Ah I guess I can give Pog fortmaker instead

[drifting quest]

alesh is just going to be a net damage loss

not worth the what

3% suscept off estella

[fringe dirge]

Net damage doesn't matter, I'm just trying to take a 1Mil screenshot

But I just realized if I slot in Estella + Alesh, I can't slot Ardelia

[drifting quest]

thats what i meant

you'll be doing less damage on your crush with estella alesh

than lifeng ardelia

[fringe dirge]

Ardelia with Stanza should be the play I think

Wait a sec, does physical susceptibility even stack?

[outer ermine]

im gonna destroy the fucking world

[fringe dirge]

WAIT I'M ACTUALLY SO CLOSE

Ah I forgot to pop Ardelia ult

[fringe dirge]

Success!

That's satisfying

@unborn panther I hit 1Mil with Da Pan

[unborn panther]

Aye grats

[peak void]

whos supposed to go first in team order, perlica or fangyi?

i remember smth abt time stop on combo and blah blah

[chilly bolt]

Supposedly perlica first but you'd get the same result doing zfy cs first if you do fast enough

[fringe dirge]

With Fanyi combo skill first, you can actually manually put it in whatever order you want.
If there is already an electrification on the enemy, you want fangyi combo to happen first, so you allow fangyi to finish then press perlica.
If there is no electrification, you want perlicas to go first so you just rapidly click both and Fangyi's will happen after Perlica

[peak void]

i like to just spam click

[fringe dirge]

Perlica combo skill will overwrite the electrification on the enemy, even if the applied one is higher

[peak void]

so perly first right

wtf

hmm

[fringe dirge]

Nah, Fangyi first is better if you just wanna mindlessly do it

[frozen tide]

Lin made a video on it

[peak void]

ok assume im js starting my rot

[frozen tide]

https://youtu.be/CGZwYdcM0dY?si=WRjYa5XCC8AFqaZZ

@peak void

[peak void]

yea and it went over me

[frozen tide]

So basically

If you spam click when you have both cs prompts

Both perli and zhuang

You wanna have zhuang first

[peak void]

ye

[frozen tide]

[peak void]

alr easy fix

dont mind the random ahh avy

[fringe dirge]

I can't think of a reason to have perli first

[frozen tide]

Uhhhh

Idk how avy works but

If avy zhuang and perli cs prompts same time

[peak void]

Avy just deploys spears

not cashing them in yet

anw ill just put her last

[fringe dirge]

Avy doesn't interact

[peak void]

Yeap

[frozen tide]

Oh yeah shouldn't matter

Ultimately perli timestop

Is last

[peak void]

The only thing avy does is take advantage of more arts dmg

but nothing really with order

[frozen tide]

What's important is the perli timestop

[peak void]

mmhm

also i js said dont mind the avy 😭

but whatev is fine

[frozen tide]

If order in spam is zhuang cs>perli cs>smth else cs I'd assume zhuang cs hits before perlis

So perli third sounds right regardless tho idk avy cs timng

[peak void]

avy is js bum 👍

[frozen tide]

Bnnyu

[merry kite]

guys

who might be interested in fankits?

[frozen tide]

What is fankit

[merry kite]

making a description of abilities/mechanics of fan created character or fan version of existing ones

[frozen tide]

Ic

[merry kite]

i can show examples

i'll take that as a yes

[frozen tide]

Sure man

[merry kite]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N85JFf1ZFgy6dp836u4OVNowNk3vKcCwyA-L9Y74S3I/edit?tab=t.0

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UM_-ihXr8jTUJmFEaMg-sXnw4ZvjoBtKuNOj-TWyEwA/edit?tab=t.0

[glad oak]

is there an updated gear articificing spreadsheet?

[wild rose]

https://endfieldtools.dev/gear-artificing-solver/

[edgy elk]

you’d better have upgraded ur trust nodes

[outer ermine]

it was

[edgy elk]

[outer ermine]

just wrong execution but i went thru w it to crit fish

wasnt supposed to be this sequence

[edgy elk]

Wrong execution and 15.3?

[outer ermine]

crystal is late so wolf didnt get the phy dmg

[edgy elk]

oh just dmg huh not speed alright

Guhh so close

[outer ermine]

did u know btw that u can insta ult, not hold

[edgy elk]

on..who

wait WAIT WAIT WAIT

[outer ermine]

just insta ult, on press

[edgy elk]

R u saying what I think ur saying

HOW

[outer ermine]

alt #

[edgy elk]

Oh pc shit

[outer ermine]

yyea does mobile not have any

[edgy elk]

let me press my alt button

Ykw there might be, I’ll press buttons til it works…

[dry kindle]

mobile cant

[edgy elk]

guess I won’t press buttons til it works

[dry kindle]

unless swipe up works

but ew

[edgy elk]

hifuuu noo im banned from speedrunning

til I get a pc

[outer ermine]

smh when

[edgy elk]

-# more likely, emulator on MacBook Air

[outer ermine]

u wanna see the rot btw its ill af

beuh

r

[edgy elk]

oh yeah show

Rossi shatter 15.3s right

[outer ermine]

yea

https://youtu.be/GOM3LlBpHnc
supposed to be cat cs - hold alesh ult - end cs - ult
so it hits b4 wolf

ill prob set a keybind for this alt shit tho seems better since timing ult is inconsistent af

[edgy elk]

was that up there with alt button?

[outer ermine]

hold

just held it a bit early

trying to develop a muscle memory to alt so wait a min

[edgy elk]

No wonder so fast…

[edgy elk]

what’s the proper order to 3cs near the start?

if endmin’s too late rn

or is it also, Alesh ult too late

[outer ermine]

endmin isnt supposed to be there at all lol

[edgy elk]

oh whuh, when then

oh after Estella hits?

[honest hill]

What a whel smh

[edgy elk]

wait I’m confusge how do u not get endmin there, doesn’t she trigger cs when someone else cs

[outer ermine]

right here, check hold duration on ult and press on cs

on a good run u wont even see me press endmin cs, just wont be there after alesh ult

[edgy elk]

oHhh HOLD alesh ult -> end cs -> alesh ult -> 2cs?

[outer ermine]

but its hard getting it right since i cant stutter my taps cuz im holding a button

yea

its not only faster but more dmg lmao

[edgy elk]

So u tank the time slow from Estella cs?

[outer ermine]

she starts it all so nothing i can do

or

[edgy elk]

Alesh ult to cover it

it’ll be rn’s damage tho cus Rossi bs won’t get end

[outer ermine]

ill have to see if i xan press

r u in game check rq if endmin can overtake rossi wolf

[edgy elk]

-# bold of u to assume I got Rossi in the last three days since u checked

[outer ermine]

i forgor

[edgy elk]

if I had her I’d be asking u for gearing

[outer ermine]

if she doesnt then ill tank cat cs

[edgy elk]

oh huh u won’t kill otherwise hm?

is that 15% on bs that big

[outer ermine]

i barely kill lmao, i just need more dmg from a few atks

wolf is the easiest one

i tried swapping but its rng on land

[edgy elk]

are u already maxing the crit req

if no wolf buff it’ll just be same damage as current run right

seems, one more crit would’ve done it too

[outer ermine]

yea, crit on that run is the perfect chase for endmin and rossi

[edgy elk]

even her little hits?

damn

[outer ermine]

or i can funni chase cat bs crit for 27k

[edgy elk]

lowkey, swap her yinglung armor for something crit rate

stat loss but 1.5x does it i think

[outer ermine]

i dont have good cr armor

lol

[edgy elk]

oh nvm that crit rate one sucks

kekw

[outer ermine]

yinglung armor is op af

ty lr

[edgy elk]

Str/will yinglung please

then maybe we skip Xai cs in LR run

-# oh dammit 🧱 I missed my daily echo dust farm ystd

[edgy elk]

so is that, in time?

[outer ermine]

not even close lol

shes first in order anyway

[edgy elk]

does switching alesh and end team position make a difference

I’m guessing not cus Rossi cs will override both their slows

[outer ermine]

w 3cs nope

w 2 yea, it was alesh 2slot b4 but i swapped for faster fish but then this other idea popped up and i couldnt switch back

its gonna ruin my muscle memory

[dry kindle]

ok mobile can swipe up

[outer ermine]

its insta?

[dry kindle]

yeah

[edgy elk]

I’m back in SR

[dry kindle]

its kinda aids

[outer ermine]

learn how to flick w claw sin lol

[dry kindle]

😭

[outer ermine]

got the alt down too lemme try mobile

oh thats what the fucking circle is

[edgy elk]

omg i love this

so fast

today is a good day

[outer ermine]

neat

[edgy elk]

flickflickflick

on critfishing runs my thumb hurts bc how much im holding ult

[outer ermine]

i feel like this has been around for a long ass time i remember this on arclight rossi

[edgy elk]

im fraud i play mobile only and i never bothered to figure out why there's a circle around ults

[outer ermine]

now sub 14 rhod go

[edgy elk]

wait, corrosion overwrites??? not refresh?

[outer ermine]

where, i dont corromax i wouldnt know

[edgy elk]

yk how they added corro lvl indicator now, when u overwrite it it shows "corro1" afterward

im suspecting it's just bad UI design tho

i'll have to check

[outer ermine]

this is uh

[edgy elk]

aint that a good thing

pause nvm. ur 🧱

cant rossi bs

[outer ermine]

damn i hate u it works

[edgy elk]

huhh?

u mean rossi +end cs -> alesh ult -> rossi bs?

[outer ermine]

its alesh last too so i get the fin earlier

[edgy elk]

oh no this is after alesh ult nvm

oh yeah alright

[outer ermine]

cat cs alesh ult

[edgy elk]

won't u wanna put endmin last then?

[half perch]

all reactions overwrites with itself

[edgy elk]

rip corro4 then

[half perch]

where you got this from

[outer ermine]

it wouldnt matter if i can get the fin b4 endmin bs

[edgy elk]

endfield.wiki.gg

i'll have to calc it for myself tho, working on it now

[outer ermine]

rn i only get after endmin bs and half of roddi ult

[edgy elk]

oh alright so +15% to endmin bs that'll do it

-# :shock: i actually helped

ig cat -> ult is right move hm

[half perch]

yeah thats a bad information-cross over from the tutorial info inside the game

[outer ermine]

yea i accidentally ulted way too fuckin early and just played it

rn theres slight inconsistencies

w alesh being first if i ult too early

fine tho

[edgy crater]

another bad tl?

[outer ermine]

just gotta see when things happen for now

[half perch]

but seeing how corrosion works, a lv4 one might get into the lowest possible resistance faster (?) and have longer duration. But still reaches a cap, so refreshing with a lower one after a bit doesnt really hurt as much i guess

the only operator so far that consumes corrosion is ardelia for now

otherwise just some other operators that can react / combo from it, example Laevatain

[outer ermine]

its insanely good

[edgy elk]

another bad tl.

**tl;dr: **despite in game icons displaying otherwise, a lower level corrosion does refresh the duration of a higher level one, and does not reset the debuff

• init = hit the moment corrosion applies
• max = let corrosion ramp to max
  -# test values from armorless p2+ yvonne with lv1 opus: the living

tested thrice for consistency, all same value

[edgy crater]

bruh

[edgy elk]

@half perch

[dusk isle]

P2+ is a weird way to write p5

[edgy elk]

shutup

[half perch]

hmm the way corrosion works, is that it lowers resistance - over time

so a "refresh" of corrosion does only to Mantain the lowered resistance...

[merry kite]

lmao

[dusk isle]

Make fun of the whel i was told to shut up

[merry kite]

craz

[half perch]

since the target affected by corrosion 4 might already be capped at minimum resistance cuz of the corrosion 4 with the time it has gone by, i see the posible confusion that might give

[edgy elk]

"possible confusion"

god

alright i've shown the numbers, convo's over, good day

[half perch]

or at least thats the understanding from the text description on how corrosion works

so much for discussion lmao

[outer ermine]

mafs moment

[edgy elk]

i just mean, there's nothing else to discuss...
we've already established that it keeps corro4's lowered resistance.
it does not, in fact, "overwrite itself"

overwrite: corro4 -> 1 would be capped at the max shred of corro1, which is 1+12% instead of 1+24%.
**refresh: **corro4 -> 1 would keep the max shred of corro4, which is 1+24%.

that was the initial confusion in #team-build : whether you can sustain the max shred of corro4 by reapplying corro1. we've tested and resolved it. what more is there to say?

[merry kite]

btw, when zhuang applies electrification on already electrified enemy to increase the status, does the countdown refresh?

[edgy elk]

-# bold of u to assume i pulled her

ask @dusk isle git back here

[merry kite]

i'm asking in general
also, who are you?

[dusk isle]

whar

[edgy elk]

identity, a tough question
even our legend endmin doesn't know
how should i

[merry kite]

i entered the chat pretty much today, so

[edgy elk]

#team-build regular who pops in now and then

i'm nobody lol

[outer ermine]

an orca

[dusk isle]

p5 yvonne haver

[merry kite]

no wonder no zhuang

[edgy elk]

this, or something

[dusk isle]

Tbh i dont run zhuang as well

I have that woman at p3 sititng like a trophy in my backpack

[edgy elk]

"she's alesh's support"

[merry kite]

el bruh

[dusk isle]

Alesh cs enabler

[merry kite]

balls enabler

[dusk isle]

I was too busy optimizing lr nef rot

[merry kite]

diablobiblical

[half perch]

overwrites itself as in the Level of Corrosion (which sure isnt important what level it is at this point of the game, since the only operator that can consume it, doesnt matter how high the stack is)

i didnt said that the amount of resistance shredded would reset.

Just the Level of the reaction, which therefor the timer it will go for
only in the future if any operator would depend on consuming a higher level of corrosion to deal more dmg, it then becomes relevant

i do see your point clearly tho

[dusk isle]

Drama is back time to dip

[merry kite]

[half perch]

there is no drama, just understanding

[edgy elk]

same
basically a misunderstanding. i've solved the original issue anw

[merry kite]

first day of me in this chat, already drama

[edgy crater]

its just some misunderstanding

[merry kite]

well then

chat died

[edgy crater]

back playing ak

coop chess event on global + ranked gambling n how to exploit closure on cn

[merry kite]

the what

[edgy elk]

..chess event?

how come SA2 didn't get a chess event

[edgy crater]

autochess

[edgy elk]

oh

[edgy crater]

[edgy elk]

smh

0-0-0

[edgy crater]

stronghold my lag fest

[dry kindle]

send help

why is dire hard

[edgy crater]

i haven't done s stage too

[merry kite]

what do you think of crit chen

[outer ermine]

actually idk sin

slow on rossi sucks

[edgy elk]

oh..

from which one?

[outer ermine]

if i can maybe skip cs2 hit then maybe?

[edgy elk]

what does cs2 even give

[outer ermine]

i just need the buff i think

[edgy crater]

endmin crush will crit more often than chen

[merry kite]

sheesh

[outer ermine]

cr, cdmg and vul

[edgy elk]

buff?

[outer ermine]

vul on hit
cr/dmg on press

[edgy elk]

cr/cdmg buff or just for the cs

ic

what's the difference now that rossi goes first? cs2 pops too quickly?

[outer ermine]

cs2, ult ,burst is delayed

i dont have a good time yet but it close to 16

[merry kite]

guys, would you perchance be interested in the thing called fankits?

[outer ermine]

i might skip vul

fuckk

[edgy elk]

so endmin crush3 then...

[outer ermine]

2

[edgy elk]

ngl the original order might be better

oh god

how'd u get around rossi's cs2 before

[merry kite]

perhaps, you would want join?

[outer ermine]

by not alesh ulting early lol

i unlock it earlier so my it just follows my slot

[edgy elk]

oh icic, so rn cs2 just pops right after whatsit

[outer ermine]

when theres both inf and vul yea

[edgy elk]

so cs1 pops after inf and vul

what's the order?

stella cs -> alesh ult (instant) -> rossi+end+alesh cs -> ?

and what's the bottleneck

[outer ermine]

yea

then just cs2
i get endmin bs, fin early

just waiting on cs2

which is like

8.6

to 11 till ican cs2

[edgy elk]

oh so rossi first = cs2 comes later

icic

[outer ermine]

and thats just for the buff

[dry kindle]

am actually getting fried by dire

[outer ermine]

then another .4 for it to hit

[merry kite]

[edgy elk]

ig just..tank cat slow then

rip i rly thought there was a play there with fishbuffed endmin

ig ur back to critfishing 15.3

[outer ermine]

there is one solution i can think of but its gonna be hell

[edgy elk]

oh?

[outer ermine]

slot3 ross, alesh fin might make it

[edgy elk]

perfect frame fin and cs hit...

well hf fishing for that too ig

atp might as well revert to the original order

[outer ermine]

ill try skipping vul for now

[edgy elk]

slot3 ross wouldn't do anything since hers and alesh's triggers are different

[edgy crater]

40%, big enough to be consistent

[outer ermine]

i trigger them at the same time at this speed lol

[edgy elk]

minus, what, 150% mv for 15% fish buff

[outer ermine]

its really fucking close w bs hitting b4 estella cs anim

its fine trust i have enuf dmg w 3 vul i just need to cut it

[merry kite]

so

[edgy elk]

so if i got into fankits it'd just be speedrun wish fulfillment

so probably not

[merry kite]

daym

[edgy elk]

make us a myrtle tho

[merry kite]

now i'm interested in your wish fulfillments tho

[edgy elk]

bs: gives ult energy
cs: gives ult energy
ult: heals teammates and regens a ton of SP

it'll be funni

force 3op clears with more bs to everyone

[merry kite]

unironically

first version of my first fankit was somewaht similar to this

but i redid it with help of shuo

now it's more balanced

[outer ermine]

no buff

[merry kite]

wanna check?

[edgy elk]

looks copge...

no buff no crit, that much hm

but ig it is faster..?

hey what if u just skipped vul on the old rot? would u kill

[outer ermine]

nope my bs doesnt have fin

[edgy elk]

guessnot

[outer ermine]

lemme do buffs

[edgy elk]

all that hassle for .04 seconds

[merry kite]

[outer ermine]

easier grind i dont have to worry about miss timing cs2 hit for vul

[edgy elk]

im working on a spreadsheet calculator rn
one project at a time
-# i have like, three projects lined up after this

[merry kite]

diablobiblical

good luck

[edgy elk]

diabaoboboabobao yes
-# apparently xaihi finisher can go up to 1.4M so that's on the queue

[merry kite]

i broke orca's brain

[edgy elk]

already broken long before

[merry kite]

crz

[dusk isle]

Elaborate

[edgy elk]

dont ask me ask lapplandwhen

[dusk isle]

Alr

[edgy elk]

the demon who forced me to build my oblivion

[dusk isle]

Finally got my oblivi to 663

[merry kite]

Dr. House

[dusk isle]

skeletan

[merry kite]

would you be interested in fankits?

[dusk isle]

Idk what that is

[merry kite]

basically, description of mechanics/gameplay of fan characters

you make up a kit and such

[outer ermine]

bro asked an lr main to do something other than critfish

[edgy elk]

guilty

u should come back to us

[merry kite]

they... do that..?

[dusk isle]

Name: lr alter
Skill: has a cs that can crit

[edgy elk]

exact same kit but with fangyi multipliers

[warped idol]

yes and it overwrites

you can see it in action ingame

[merry kite]

shit's so fast i can't see anything

[edgy elk]

shit's so fast is @outer ermine 's middle name

[warped idol]

crit support when

[merry kite]

anyway, thanks

[warped idol]

I want my rossi to be even better

150% crit

[edgy elk]

would you be interested in speedrun?

[merry kite]

uuhhhh, i made one

[merry kite]

well, that gives me an opportunity to share, huh

[warped idol]

[merry kite]

i hope you are not on mobile

[merry kite]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N85JFf1ZFgy6dp836u4OVNowNk3vKcCwyA-L9Y74S3I/edit?tab=t.0

[warped idol]

another cryo op

[merry kite]

why it's red...

[honest onyx]

red cryo

the cryo is made of blood of enemies

[merry kite]

wth, are you using inverted colors

[honest onyx]

whats the fankit for?

[merry kite]

fun

just making ideas of characters and such

[honest onyx]

reminds me of someone else who create hsr and limbus fankit

[merry kite]

yeah, it's pretty popular there in a sense

i initially started fankitting in hsr

[merry kite]

you can join in checking too

[outer ermine]

its shit

its clos tho

@edgy elk ight back to old rot, did learn a few execution techs w it so can prob improve the old one

or make it faster ig

[outer ermine]

give me an op w

[edgy elk]

ngl i hope they make range relevant

larger map, perpetually in combat

intercontinental estella

[outer ermine]

6 shooter w reload mechanic and slow ba aspd
%chance increase in cr/cdmg w everyatk, that can stack up to 6 times
bs that insta loads then fires 6 bullets
ult that reloads all 6 bullets and has range on dmg dealt, from 69-666%

now

50%cr and 360%cdmg on max stacks

[edgy elk]

literal yvonne alter

[edgy crater]

dats female tourist C

[edgy elk]

water cryo element

i approve

[outer ermine]

gib her a passive that has %chance to give an extra bullet per hit during bs and its a deal

my type of rng fishing

[edgy elk]

if % based then it might as well be 100%

int/agi/dmg kit on MI set when

hifu, say they release all that but it's a male. will u play him

[outer ermine]

if its vamp

he hawt

actually i qant it to be a loli so hmm

[edgy crater]

vamp loli, flander-chan

[dry kindle]

🗿

[outer ermine]

[merry kite]

?

[edgy elk]

hifu commission

• "make her loli"

[merry kite]

hifu can try to make fankit themselves

[edgy elk]

no, hifu must slave to the crit god

u make it

[merry kite]

[outer ermine]

ill sleep it out and grind later, maybe wake up to another idea but doubt it

[edgy elk]

slep slep

night

[outer ermine]

how do i stop game from logging out from inactivity i wanna afk at a meat farm

[edgy elk]

i thought the dogs don't respawn if ur sitting there

[merry kite]

what the dawg doin

[edgy elk]

nothing much just everyday animal cruelty

[merry kite]

diablobiblical

[outer ermine]

im just barely out of range for em to respawn

[merry kite]

wanna check fankits?

[outer ermine]

just menu smh

how to macro 💀

fuck it i have enuf meat

[dry kindle]

do you

[outer ermine]

i just need 1 run to get the crit when i wake up anyway

[main nova]

polo

[daring dove]

Test

[swift onyx]

Ye

[swift onyx]

Wtf

Help channel killed discord

[daring dove]

I dunno, my messages are blocked in help strange.

O well

It'll be back sooner or later.

[drifting quest]

mods finally deleted help

[swift onyx]

And i was the last to send a message

I'll be in the tombstone

[outer ermine]

rip

[edgy crater]

purge session

[outer ermine]

fin buffed bs

[summer narwhal]

https://youtu.be/eSwCUr-lGzE?si=ZNG7ojLNZ1Pf_8L7 this says PD SM Chest for Endmin over AI?

[drifting quest]

it can be better yes

waiting on uge interactions with p3 before committal

[wild rose]

already at 118 dmg bonus only with Grand Vision and 2 Swordsmancer Kits

but yeah

[drifting quest]

mostly just that AI is partial buff vs Phys Damage being full buff

profile wise

which lets it win out

still depends on the # of crushes vs # of ults, who gets fielded, yada yada

[honest hill]

[torn pilot]

what are fangyis mastery priorities?

battle skill, and then what else

lowkey seems like battle skill -> basic -> combo -> ult

[frozen tide]

Nah

Bs>>>everything else

Btk<<<everything else

Cs ult similar priority

Ult is slightly higher prio iirc

[torn pilot]

what set does rossi use on this team?

[frozen tide]

isnt that a speedkill comp where rossi is a burst bot

probably mi still

🤔

[torn pilot]

yeah it is

what pieces should i use?

was thinking 2x scope t1 kitt, 1x t1 gloves, and then ult gain% chest?

redeemer gloves also seem good

[potent hornet]

Thank you endfield for not having a Taygedo, thank you forever.

[frozen tide]

id just use dmg chest

no clue what or if there are cr bps

[pallid shell]

[dusk isle]

is that p0 zfy

[pallid shell]

yes :c

[pallid shell]

btw whats your lr rot for nef

[dusk isle]

i do cs3 + 2 nado for phase 1

and cs4 + 2 nado + lr ult for phase 2

but i am working on a different way of doing it for phase 2

tho, i have not tested if it works or not since it requires hitting a crit

and i am out of ginseng

[pallid shell]

i also just ran out of food

[dusk isle]

[pallid shell]

tomorrow it is

[dusk isle]

btw my lr rot is heavily dependent on pots

[pallid shell]

what if I crit every hit

[dusk isle]

p3p3 lr, p2p1 tt, p5 deto on xaihi 💀

[pallid shell]

nvm

[dusk isle]

sin would be the better choice

for a p0 rot

[pallid shell]

i would be surprised if its sub 50s

[dusk isle]

yea me as well

i would say sub 50s was impossible before timer update

now it is near impossible at best

would be my guess

i had to hit 3 crits to be able to get 49s with all the pots i have

pre timer change

tho i believe it would be possible to shave off time from that 49s with piloting on phase 2

[pallid shell]

3 crits is rough

[dusk isle]

well the 3rd one was the base dmg portion of the cs

i doubt it was necessary but im not gonna complain that i got it

[pallid shell]

expecting a 44s from u soon then

[dusk isle]

me and my academic lifes response to this message

ill try to get some attempts in between my breaks but i doubt i'll be getting it this month

and i dont even know if the rot i am working on will kill with the pots i have

ima sleep now, gnight bluejay

blessing you with all the crits

[pallid shell]

gn! ty and gl on ur academics

[outer ermine]

bless my crits instead

[dusk isle]

share the blessing

one day hifu one day bluejay

cant afford another blessing

[potent hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-blessing-you-giving-blessing-blessed-telugu-ss-rajamouli-gif-17436375