theorycrafting

[real mist]

it's been long do we have proper calcs yet of fangyi interms she's like the best dps af of now or not.

[honest hill]

go buy all the arsenal ticket packs

[edgy crater]

fund me

[honest hill]

maybe if my LR was P2/3 like yours

[crystal flicker]

have anyone tested if the new Qingbo set is better or worse compared to the Bone set for Chief Soup?

[honest hill]

it's just consistent dps

makes rotations more comfy

[fossil pendant]

combo m3 with qingbo feels quite nice

esp for super short nuke rotations it makes getting 2 whirlpools before consuming them for vuln much easier

[crystal flicker]

-2s CD on CS feels nice, but losing 15% atk sounds bad ngl. Idk if this actually results in better consistent dmg. Hard decision

[honest hill]

idk

[crystal flicker]

[fossil pendant]

the dmg is very noticeably weaker

from tangtang herself that is

esp because qingbo set dmg% runs on a relatively short timer that you have to play around unlike bk

not that you can't but it's one extra thing to think about

[amber vapor]

@thin swallow

Oh sniped already nice 🫡

[amber vapor]

You can craft the new consumable for CS reduction anyway

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Echoing_Remedy

[daring dove]

It's a decent idea for P0 Tangtang as long as you aren't playing her as a MDPS.

Kinda pointless for P1 Tangtang & beyond as realistcally you'll be limited by SP generation anyway.

Better to have the extra 15% ATK in that instance.

[outer ermine]

holo u wanna do solo nohit nef speedkill?

[patent geyser]

@cold solstice see brother.. previous 2 limited characters among with standard 5 characters.

I got Rossi in Rossi's banner at 20 pulls.. as a result I didn't have Weapon pull to get the weapon.. so I pulled in her banner.. I pulled 70 more which hit soft pity & I lose 50/50 to a previous limited character TangTang.

[outer ermine]

lmk,i already cut 10s off the record

id do it but i dont wanna farm stew for it

[ivory gale]

I have optimized Ember solo Nef run to 3m30s and I genuinely believe I can go no further

[outer ermine]

wuts trim time on nef

[ivory gale]

3m20s

[swift onyx]

200s

[ivory gale]

[outer ermine]

kinda far

thats w ult start already?

[ivory gale]

ult start isn't optimized for Ember
it's better to hold onto it since the ult is only good for extra stagger or damage during stagger phase

if I had P5 Ember then ult start would be optimal

[outer ermine]

dont u ult like 1min in, w all the skill spam and stew u can get it back way before stagger

[ivory gale]

phase 1 ends in 1m20s+
ult recharges in nearly 2m

I also need the damage from the ult at the end of phase 1 to consistently kill her in 1 stagger rotation

[ivory gale]

In the future, I'll just trim the boss the moment they come out just in case Hypergryph decides to patch something and ruin my run

[outer ermine]

fuck 1:27 1s slower i fucked my phase 2

[honest hill]

stop whel

[frozen tide]

do you ever bs with arclight in zhuang comp

for this

[outer ermine]

the crit fish at the end is brutal

[frigid vector]

nop

you don't have the SP for it

[frozen tide]

rip

[frigid vector]

or the stack really

even if you had SP you'd be giving up on sunderblade build

and delaying your ults

and screwing your damage over too

[honest hill]

ur job is a fisherman

[frigid vector]

zfy is so saturated in dmg % already as is

[honest hill]

[honest hill]

never

[warped sorrel]

Only if we have a better vanguard
Like a 6 star vanguard or something

[dry kindle]

Max int arclight is only like +13% buff for solo zfy

[frozen tide]

youve doomed us all

[honest hill]

no one will ever use it

[frozen tide]

next patch is zhuang shill vanguard

[honest hill]

they should give arclight link buff on ult

[warped sorrel]

Where is my laevatain premium team

[honest hill]

maybe is Mi Fu

but I hope we get one

[warped sorrel]

1.0 characters always get pwc curse is always ture?

[normal tangle]

pwc?

[warped sorrel]

I bet she is a defender

[honest hill]

prob

[warped sorrel]

A hot defender

[honest hill]

defenders are meh

[warped sorrel]

Cause her boobs is out something like that

[normal tangle]

another heat phys hybrid defender 😻 surely

[honest hill]

they're not needed

[frozen tide]

if i put the comp in right order can i juust button mash every cs

or do i need to have braincells

[frigid vector]

kind of

[warped sorrel]

She surely nature defender

[frigid vector]

you can mash but you want to partially delay zfy battle skill unless you're speedrun killing in 2 of them

so that you can get x2 arclight procs

for more SP

[warped sorrel]

Because she love vegetables

[frigid vector]

mash combo skills

but delay bs slightly

[drifting quest]

Just pull p3

[honest hill]

pray for elec vg

[frozen tide]

ic

whats the right order

arc perli zhuang

[frigid vector]

zfy > perlica

perlica's hits just before zfy

as it hits you get arclight's + gilberta's (if you have her)

[warped sorrel]

Arclight alter

[frigid vector]

can just mash

[frozen tide]

i meant the order to put the comp in

[frigid vector]

but mash fast

[warped sorrel]

She become darker

[frigid vector]

zfy > perlica > arclight > filler

[warped sorrel]

her personality

[frozen tide]

wouldnt that make zfy cs be above perli cs

[dry kindle]

No

[frigid vector]

yes

that's the point

you use zfy first

perlica second

[dry kindle]

Wait

[frozen tide]

🤔

[frigid vector]

and the timestop on perlica's skill means that it holds zfy in place

so perlica's skill lands before zfy does

if you put perlica first you're waiting years before you can skill which is ass

[frozen tide]

so you go for the 4stack bs nuke?

ic

[dry kindle]

Or just don't wait

[frigid vector]

no just

1 stack on perlica bskill

[honest hill]

if u had full ults at start and wanna do say 4 battle skills what's the fastest way

[frigid vector]

then final strike it

and zfy -> perlica combo

but perlica combo hits first despite being used 2nd

and zfy combo +1s it

[dry kindle]

For blade setup?

[honest hill]

yeah basically

[frozen tide]

perli cs gives 2 ele and zfy cs with 2 electro gives 2 more

so it becomes t4 electrification right

[frigid vector]

no, zfy combo is electric infliction + 1 (if electrification is on)

you'd need 3 inflictions for t4

also you're capped at 3 swords anyways

[frozen tide]

I think

Thats the root of my confusion

[frigid vector]

there's no point at getting anything above level 2 elec unless you're farming energy with combo

[frozen tide]

I thought zfy cs gave electrification

[frigid vector]

it does

[frozen tide]

🤔

[frigid vector]

but if electrification is on the enemy

it's electric infliction +1

if you have 1 electric infliction and a level 1 electrification from perlica

it becomes level 2 infliction

which you then bskill on and get 3 s words

combo is just infliction +1 (if there's elec*)

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/fVWf1TF

[normal tangle]

combo skill is actually worded slightly incorrectly

[honest hill]

scam link

[normal tangle]

it doesn't strictly add +1, it adds whatever level it would usually add

if there were 2 inflictions, it will add +2

[frigid vector]

it's infliction level

+1

ye

so if you have electrificaiton level 2

and 2 infliction

you get elec level 3

[normal tangle]

you get 4

[dry kindle]

You dont

[frigid vector]

no you get 3

[normal tangle]

i got 4

[frigid vector]

show video

[normal tangle]

am i tweaking

[dry kindle]

Status level is inflicts

[normal tangle]

guh

[dry kindle]

Not reactions

[normal tangle]

i'll record next time

[normal tangle]

yes i know

[frigid vector]

see right here

2+2=3

[normal tangle]

wgat

maybe it was 3 inflictions and i was misremembering? i could've sworn it just added together

[frigid vector]

if you have 3 inflictions and electrification

it'll be 4

since 3 inflictions +1 (because electrification exists)

you could have a level 4 electrification

and it'll reset to 2

[frozen tide]

Does perli pot not make her electrification count as t2

[frigid vector]

if you have only 1 infliction on the enemy

[normal tangle]

oh wait arclight ult adds an infliction before exploding doesn't she

[frozen tide]

[frigid vector]

no

[frozen tide]

That's fucked

[frigid vector]

her pot is just % dmg increase

there's nothing to do with the elec level

it's like arts intensity

makes the dmg taken effect stronger

her electrification is always level 1

[honest hill]

@dry kindle look

[frigid vector]

ya

[normal tangle]

might've been it

if arclight consumes the elec infliction before zfy hits with cs, does the cs still +1

[dry kindle]

It did in cbt

[normal tangle]

it does right

[dry kindle]

No

[normal tangle]

if you hit cs with 0 infliction

[dry kindle]

Cs with 0 inflict does nothing

[honest hill]

@dry kindle explain what the video saying

[normal tangle]

at this point i feel like we are playing different games

[honest hill]

it's lv 1 not 2

sad it's not lv 2

[dry kindle]

Fund me

[dry kindle]

It was in cbt

[honest hill]

no why u sending a chinese vid if I don't understand it

all I see is zhuang ult > bs > arclight ult then idk

[frigid vector]

explain this vid?

[dry kindle]

Zfy bs perli bs arclight ult zfy bs after consume perlica cs zfy cs

[honest hill]

idk is just the rot I used in first phase, the thing sworce sent i don't understand

[dry kindle]

P1 ofc gets to cheat 100 sp

[honest hill]

it takes me roughly 31/32s

[honest hill]

if I do that can I kill phase 1 in less than 30s against nefarith

[dry kindle]

This is just sword setup

[honest hill]

100 sp...

[dry kindle]

🗿

[honest hill]

hm

maybe it's possible

lemme try

at 28s I am halfway her ult w 200 sp so

I try this

@frigid vector does the team order matter too much or not

[frigid vector]

it does sinec you want zfy before perlica for the timestop interaction

but that order you got there is fine

[outer ermine]

ahhhhh

bad phase 2 moveset

i want to believe it was fine cuz i had no sp 💀

fuck it

only have 70 meat left its mot worth

[honest hill]

I mean I can switch perli and zhuang around

if that's optimal

cuz I am not sure

[outer ermine]

im perma farming 2morrow

went from 300 to 70

crazy

[honest hill]

here I had half my ult left

more than other one

[dry kindle]

L

[frigid vector]

no

you always want ZFY before perlica

I think

I'll just make a quick video on this lmao

[golden rapids]

Do we have Zhuang damage numbers? I heard shes really f2p and op, but does she really power creeps every current dps I assume her full potental might not be possible to achieve yet bcz of the current character roster we have but atm is she better at p0 than for example p3 lr??

[honest hill]

That's what I thought too

even tho perli hits first I think

[frigid vector]

ya

[honest hill]

does zhuang have any animation cancels

with her normals

[frigid vector]

her 3rd hit, but it's slight

[honest hill]

is it after it?

[frigid vector]

during it

she summons a bunch of swords

as soon as they're summoned you can dash cancel it

not all that worth it though since you're trying to align final strikes

even if you go through strings faster you'll be dodging to delay the final strike to hit when combo skills are coming off CD regardless

[honest hill]

ah

yeah

[frigid vector]

so there isn't much point to it as you aren't getting an additional final strike in the rotation as a result

[honest hill]

hmm

I can't get faster than 30s on first phase

okay I can abuse zhuang knockback immunity to save time

[dry kindle]

And probably combo inflicts while you're at it

[honest hill]

@outer ermine look

I should prob lv perli

[outer ermine]

rossi solo kills at 22

[honest hill]

shut up whel

[outer ermine]

u whel imagine sub 30

[honest hill]

this is F2P damage

smh

my wild wanderer not even P5

@outer ermine

it basically is 29

[outer ermine]

get sig

[honest hill]

I have

You saw me pull

how can you forget

[leaden pewter]

What gear does zf need?

[bronze plume]

3 piece xiranite then either slab, uge kit or uge chest as the off piece

[dry kindle]

Xiraflow

Xiranite is the support set smh

[leaden pewter]

So I make these 3?

[bronze plume]

xiranite xiranflow xirantoomuchxiran

[drifting quest]

xichun

[sturdy hill]

xiranflow

[elder skiff]

xiranite zfy is the real build

[lean trellis]

does antal want xiranite gear?

[drifting quest]

he tends to run eternal xiranite yes

[lean trellis]

all 4 pieces or would i want to use an offpiece chest for more ult gain efficiency?

[drifting quest]

usually off piece a uge body for better stats

redeemer chest should be optimal

[lean trellis]

ty ty

[drifting quest]

redeemer armor specifically

i forgot there's multiple now

[lean trellis]

ya i was already lookin at it when i asked 🙂 ty tho very helpful

[sturdy hill]

holy

[ocean turret]

Does soft pity work on standard too?

[trail flume]

Is there a world where running Qingbo 3 on Gilberta is optimal

I hate how long her Combo skill takes to come back

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV16Po3BBEWW
@sterile moat i started it for u

cheese record a bit by abusing -1:-1

[potent hornet]

held off on doing Nefarith trim, got it first shot with my LR, TT team

[ocean turret]

You can really, but you lose the buff from the xira set. Unless you know how to properly use her arts int stat from qingbo

[potent hornet]

its becoming a challenge trying to figure out which silver shiny i want showing

[trail flume]

Wouldnt arts intensity make her combo skill stagger more from lift?

I dont think she can get lift in the Laev team right?

[ocean turret]

yeah but thats kinda sad if thats the only thing that boost her kit

if you can do corrosion its better

[trail flume]

It sounds like Im forced to take an L on this

but waiting for her combo skill sucks big time

[ocean turret]

test it

[trail flume]

;_;

[ocean turret]

rotations matter more than dmg

[drifting quest]

yes

[outer ermine]

oh and i mentioned him and hes already there so he'll prob take my first phase strat

[frigid vector]

https://youtu.be/CGZwYdcM0dY

here we go

[potent hornet]

nicely done

[waxen knoll]

is ult gain artifice for supports a must or naaah not really?

wondering if it's higher prio for 2nd line in gears first over supports artifice

[drifting quest]

must? no
helpful? it depends

[outer ermine]

ig ppl forgor last goes first

[waxen knoll]

well.... in general then. Because i kinda have every character in the game even as of now 💀

[drifting quest]

there is no general take

it differs per unit, per team, per rot

[frigid vector]

ye

quite literally

[drifting quest]

this is how most of endfield gearing works

sadly

[frigid vector]

"do I need it for this rotation?"

if your answer is "no" or "I don't know", then don't bother

[waxen knoll]

clown's spreadsheet doesn't show whether or not the artifice is needed or not

[frigid vector]

even then it depends

like you have steeper ult gain reqs in cold starts a lot of the time

which you may not need if just re-crisis speedrunning

[drifting quest]

you'd have to ask them to start including it then

[frigid vector]

some may depend on having a specific weapon (e.g. gilb with full ult gain for x2 ult in fangyi ult)

[drifting quest]

it's not something I think anyone here has any say in

wulfgard cold start uge req

aware

[trail flume]

Qingbo Gilberta makes playing Zhuang much smoother. 4 less seconds of waiting for her cs to come back which is great

But shaving 4 seconds off in Laev's team does nothing

10 seconds of waiting is shortened to 6 which isnt viable either way

No Xiranite buff for Zhuang but team plays much faster

[drifting quest]

gilberta fighting with pog for most amount of viable sets

she's at what

4 current

5 technically i guess

[trail flume]

Might be more optimal to go Frontier 3 even if she cant activate the buff for the uge

Dont know how much value this arts intensity is giving

Might need a god damn excel spreadsheet to understand it

[drifting quest]

depends on the uge req with extra combos

[trail flume]

Im sure they will add another cs cooldown set with the new character since the streets are saying its a support

[drifting quest]

we love unverified rumours based solely on the vibes of 1 person

[trail flume]

The smoothing of the rotation for Zhuang specifically makes running this optimal in my eyes. Sure her burst with her ultimate is lower, but her signature damage boost is up every single time without waiting an extra 4-5 seconds for it to come back

If it works it works

[drifting quest]

Ill have to put some testing in

Extra stagger might be relevant too

[trail flume]

My next step is to max out her CS for the second off the cooldown at max rank

[warped sorrel]

this will be a problem later for sure

[frigid vector]

the timestop?

even with 3 combo skills it still works

e.g. if you do an avy team

just need to have perlica go last

[drifting quest]

its generally* (who doesnt love things differing for edge cases haha oh my god so fun) last in first out

due to timestop rules

[dry kindle]

Lr combo be like

[terse valley]

i didnt know zfy can add up electrification like that gah damn

man why is this exclusive to zfy and not a general electrification thing

[chilly bolt]

yeah lol this should be a thing for reactions in general

[bronze plume]

i mean its kinda interesting in a way

having certain characters change the reactions in a way that benefit them

and or older/newer ops

@drifting quest do you know if theres anything out there that goes over qingbo vs pulser for perlica in rossi, tt, perlica, gilberta team

[drifting quest]

Not as a formal writeup afaik

[bronze plume]

what are your thoughts on it

and dont say "it depends"

[terse valley]

does qinbo even gives more intensity than pulser

their armor and two kits has the same intensity

[drifting quest]

pulser has set bonus

[terse valley]

exactly

how does qinbo takes place here?

[drifting quest]

combo cdr

being more valuable in some cases

[terse valley]

just for the second combo for rossi ult i guess?

faster perlica combo but gil combo would still be on cd

but on one gil combo rotation i guess it dont matter

[drifting quest]

not every team runs gilb and perlica

they asked for a specific one

but in other cases

[terse valley]

well the question was rossi, tt, perlica, gilberta team 🤷‍♂️

[drifting quest]

there's variance even within those exact 4

[terse valley]

as in what triggers gil combo?

[drifting berry]

Whenever an operator uses a bs, it regenerated 6 energy to each other operator, correct?

Or did I got the number wrong

[drifting quest]

6.5 energy per 100 'real' SP consumed

to all allies

[drifting berry]

Ty, so 6,5 to all allies.

And Combo skill is 10 to that specific operator unless stated otherwise, correct?

[dry kindle]

Unless their name is lr

[drifting berry]

lr is not a real character anyways

[dry kindle]

Arclight gets 5

[terse valley]

[drifting berry]

My cannibal cannot be this cute

[bronze plume]

yeah she cant

shes a fraud

[drifting quest]

never let them forget what they took from us

[bronze plume]

for real bruv

[drifting berry]

What did they took, I forgot

[terse valley]

thats not how the saying goes

[bronze plume]

AND YOU TOOK THAT FROM ME

[drifting berry]

They are better gone tbh

[bronze plume]

making last rite the same as them has gotta be the biggest joke bruh

aint no way they go from that to

default shy girl with exposed skin in a gacha game number 384769

[drifting berry]

Is just that they are not on Valley IV or Wulling

[drifting quest]

shameful how they offed the goat

[cinder oxide]

I mean the lore behind that is good tbf.

[bronze plume]

[cinder oxide]

A nachzehrer like LR is how the old ones would've wanted their kids to grow up

Safe happy and fed on not cannibalism

[gritty olive]

qalaisa also has some build but like yeah

also her

[outer ermine]

[drifting berry]

nah not looking for LR images again, was just looking for her in game sprite and I literally got jumpscared

nightmare fuel that I found

[bronze plume]

is it like

nsfw nightmare fuel or

[drifting berry]

nah not to that point, just blood, but I wasn't prepared at all

[gritty olive]

the devourer one

[drifting quest]

caught

i do that all the time

trying to search something and having discord decide no that was meant to be a message

[warped sorrel]

male vs female anime clothes design

[bronze plume]

still wrong

[drifting quest]

it doesnt have to be this way

we could have had it so much better

[leaden pewter]

Does zf use full xianflow gear?

[drifting quest]

3p with one of 3 offpieces for now

see prydwen's guide for info

[soft tendon]

was it the art of her eating someone with those creepy ass eyes

[drifting berry]

Yeah

From a Reddit post of 5 months ago or something

[leaden pewter]

Sorry I’m unsure where to find that, what offpiece can I use?

[drifting quest]

https://www.prydwen.gg/arknights-endfield/characters/zhuang-fangyi

See the Review section for explanation, build for the pieces

[fresh trench]

this is serious question but between ardelia p1 and gilb p0 which one is better when their sig

[bronze plume]

that

completly depends on the team

if you are talking overall

gilberta

[fresh trench]

how much Arts Susceptibility gil did vs ardelia?

[chilly raft]

i nearly got all essences for all of my weapon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220810810658525301/1463777942827171892/xormo.gif

luck maxing

[fresh trench]

for example it said gilb give 30% i asummed it maybe 30-36 usually but i never really looking at debuff for damage showcase but ardelia is 28 for p1 right?

[bronze plume]

p0 gilberta is 30%-42% for 5 seconds on ult
p1 ardelia is 28% for 30 secs on enchanced battle skill

again

completly depends on the team for who is better

[sterile moat]

30% + (no. of vul stack x 3%)
its 6% per stack if p2

[bronze plume]

but normally its gilberta as shes just more universal

[fresh trench]

yeah i see i see

i have p2 dreamer i just wonder if i can show off damage too using her instead

[fresh trench]

i meant those restriction on ardelia combo with no infliction is really bad in most team yeah,thank

[bronze plume]

yeah thats

kinda her point

[swift onyx]

"Not edible" as a con

[bronze plume]

prydwen does that for all their stuff

[sterile moat]

rossi solos a lot faster than i thought

[bronze plume]

well most anyway

[swift onyx]

Peak song

[outer ermine]

thats just baseline time rn w that opening

other guy was suffering even w ovo helping him so

bro been grinding for 3 days apparently

now he needs to farm more slugs

[bronze plume]

yippie 3 m12s now

[outer ermine]

whel

do u have bili acc holo

[sterile moat]

nope, no idea how to open one

been using my friend's account lol

[dry kindle]

Just making one should be easy

Inb4 need to verify to upload

[outer ermine]

[vapid flame]

is re:crisis more sanity efficient for mastery mats?

[warped sorrel]

they are the same

[dry kindle]

@frigid vector have fun with the full guide

Gonna need every possible permutation or someone's gonna question it

Also mfw gfl2 vid

[bronze plume]

tbf this happens in all kinda guide videos for any game

gachas are just really bad for it

because the average iq of gacha players as a whole is below the average

[dry kindle]

[upper dome]

is gloves with elemental stats better than all skill stats?

[dry kindle]

Dependstm

Totally not lazy

[bronze plume]

shockingly

depends

[upper dome]

avy lightning char?

[bronze plume]

well it does actually depends cuz of how much of yo skills will actually benefit from it

[dry kindle]

Its all skill

[bronze plume]

for it to be relevant

[dry kindle]

Question is talents

[bronze plume]

the majority of the characters skills

need to actually

do dmg

0 x 100 is still 0

type shit

the more of the characters skills that are used for there dmg

[dry kindle]

They probably do damage if the question is element vs all skill

[bronze plume]

the better all skill is

its avy so they do indeed

do dmg

[upper dome]

tnx for help guess no need to switch to new gloves that got lightning

[bronze plume]

it all depends on the dmg share of all avys skills to her total dmg

as to which uhh

no idea

[upper dome]

hrmm all avy skill (combo ult)only does decent damage except skill

who deal most damage

[bronze plume]

that is accurate description of the dmg amounts of each skills

not the number % for each however which actually matters for it

[upper dome]

guess i need to login since im to dumb for number ahahah

[bronze plume]

i dont know the actual awnser to what one is the most useful overall

however i can say

even if the xiranflow gloves are better

shit aint worth it

also its will int not will agi

so you are losing out on some atk% not much but its also a consideration into it

[dry kindle]

Not mentioning combo cd still ticks during timestop probably not helping

[upper dome]

here

[ocean turret]

Sad i got her at 66

[upper dome]

actualy there new gloves that has same main stats

[bronze plume]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[ocean turret]

Im not flexing

My mifu is gone

[bronze plume]

flexing or not is irrelevant to the posting of pulls

[ocean turret]

I lost my pity

Fair enough

[upper dome]

thats main reason why im debaiting to switching to new gloves and got no idea if its good

[bronze plume]

tc kinda dead rn with the people that actually test the more obscure shit icl

might have to go test yoself if you are to trying to push the same % dmgs for avy

[upper dome]

ahh rip

sadly my device cant handle those testing since to laggy XD anyway tnx for help sigh

[tulip plinth]

umm which endmin dps should i use? is there any change on 1.2?

[outer ermine]

yvonnes time is ticking on marble

[sterile moat]

zfy gaining time?

[outer ermine]

its tied

41

[chilly bolt]

@sterile moat thoughts on 3p yinglung rossi ?

[echo cove]

Does the 2 cs trigger on rossi count as 2 separate cs for the purpose of sth like yinlung/qingbo?

[wispy shuttle]

if qingbo shows number of stacks on its buff icon then that is easy to test, assuming you have rossi

[echo cove]

I don't

That's why am askin

[sterile moat]

sounds cursed

[tulip plinth]

[gaunt mason]

swordmancer is better overall

aether gets you a bigger crush but you lose damage everywhere else

the new orange armor piece on swordmancer is an option too but i wouldn't bother

[tulip plinth]

is it better swordmancer version? i have the components

[tulip plinth]

i see, tq for helpin me choose

[gaunt mason]

could be if endmin's on field but it's honestly a very small increase you won't notice

also ptn tag i know what you are

[tulip plinth]

an OG arknight player, obviously

like you, LAPPLAND

[gaunt mason]

🙂‍↕️ yep yep

[outer ermine]

dam im in no sleep and its busy as hell

its a fucking friday

i still have to farm meat and slugs

[honest hill]

Busy peasant

[outer ermine]

tell ppl to stop dying 3 emergency case is diabolical

https://vxb23.tv/BV1Bio5B5E58
lots of mobile lately

[honest hill]

Wow

These whel vids aren't impressive, too many of em

[cinder oxide]

What the hell kind of UI layout is this 💀

That Perlica button is massive

And the cs spawns between fy and gil

[chilly bolt]

holy

[real mist]

holy oh nvm p5

[honest hill]

P5P5

Nothing crazy

[sterile moat]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1f4oGBrETw/

31s now @outer ermine

akekuri instead of rossi

[river scroll]

y'all will hate me for saying this. but on very fast rotation, mobile just feel better.

in very fast rotation you don't need to see, you just need to click faster, and the hand & finger position is just feel better

[outer ermine]

yea saw it earlier

its disgustingly easy

[sterile moat]

[dry kindle]

rossi fraud

gg

[outer ermine]

cant bench her on marble tho

[sterile moat]

mfw no thermite p5

[dry kindle]

ok whel

[sterile moat]

"For Endfield speedruns, I always believe: Optimize strategy > Optimize transitions > Optimize critical hits > Optimize timeline"

that video description lmao

[dry kindle]

spend a day crit gambling just to find a better rot tomorrow

[outer ermine]

if u saw that chase for dorito run you'll know why

[sterile moat]

cant wait to see the completed run

[outer ermine]

only reason sheep isnt as burned out cuz mf didnt play lr

[sterile moat]

is he like the main speedrunner now

[honest hill]

where's Hifumi P5P5 Zhuang Speedrun

[sterile moat]

interesting, 13.03 rossi rhod

sub 13s when

[outer ermine]

always been, i took a break from rw and did wuwa speedruns and mf was there

[honest hill]

wuwa speedruns?

[sterile moat]

which rw records did you even chase

[outer ermine]

i took rhod for a while from him then a surge of sub 13/4/7 came flying to beat it

wasnt until rossi

[honest hill]

now Hifumi need zhuang speedrun vs nefarith

[outer ermine]

rhod backstab, load on lr

8s pre tt but never got the crit, 0s w tt, i can beat the current 14lr but not worth unless i can 13

[sterile moat]

i wonder if the new echo food changed any speedruns

[outer ermine]

both ver of rhod speedkill w rossi can peak 12 but lots of muscle memory

[sterile moat]

been farming it but the drop rate is so shit lol

[outer ermine]

cd? fuck that shit

[sterile moat]

14 to 22 a day or so

[outer ermine]

i want something non food related

i hate farming

im chillin after nef, dorito w shatter

oh ig ruan exists too i forgor

but even worse rng, true crit fish on phase 3, balls on 2nd

[sterile moat]

ruan is too much of a pain

[outer ermine]

um3-3 i couldnt stream to join or even get the price so i just copied and rossi clears then started working on shatter

join shatter when

[sterile moat]

i refuse to build alesh

[outer ermine]

u only see his face twice per rot

[sterile moat]

[frigid vector]

getting the bag bro

[frigid vector]

I don't follow this one tbh, since you should only ever get 2 arclight CS unless you're griefing the rotation

[dry kindle]

so you see

[glad kestrel]

For P0 Fangyi is slab good? or should I build UGE?

[frigid vector]

slab good if you run sp neutral or positive chars

i.e. gilberta or double vanguard

otherwise UGE

or get p1 and slab antal

[frozen tide]

What's your preferred fangyi team lin

[frigid vector]

I'm a gilb shill

good stagger

sp neutral

[random dock]

i haven't been followin' the speedrun tournament as closely this time, who's winnin' rn, and is there a clip?

[frigid vector]

giga burst

[frozen tide]

🔥

W gilberta

I love gilberta

[frigid vector]

I'd put my money on maygi but I think she's restricted stream vods to members only so that strats don't get nabbed

if it's like the previous one where 4 stars are P0 doing the ake strat might be rough

then again since everyone is p0

the standard arc gilb routing is probably best

I'd be surprised if they're getting 37s at all P0s though, fastest I had seen was 48s all P0 by haengja

I've seen lower but they used p2 gilb

like zimen had a 41s but it was p3p5 rossi

[random dock]

Maygi is def the one to watch since she absolutely destroyed the competition last time

[outer ermine]

rossi jumpscare

[sterile moat]

this time it should be kinda interesting? to see the strats

[frigid vector]

wait

the new tournament rules

are completely scuffed

LOL

[random dock]

yeah

[dry kindle]

no one has stat nodes or talents

except rossi has stat nodes for no reason

[frigid vector]

no affinity stats (ok)
no food (ok)
no mastery (ok...)
1/1/1 essence (bruh??)
no artificing (????)

[dry kindle]

random p5 stanza

random max slabs

no talents is so meme

mfw zfy without self amp

[frigid vector]

the runs are gonna be

so weird lmao

they somehow managed to make it worse

than the last rossi one

[sturdy hill]

tfw

how does a akef tourney works

[frigid vector]

it's an event held for streamers

[sterile moat]

Actually funny tourney since you get to see cc being skill issued

[frigid vector]

they're invited to a creator server and need to use the featured character and try to get a speedrun/best time on either a collection of stages (e.g. umbral 1-3 and 2-3 combined time) or a single boss (nefarith rn)

usually they don't re-invite many creators but seems like there's quite a few repeat faces on this latest one

since you have to use the creator account they tend to be very... weird

which leads to super awkward rotations lol

but I guess that's part of the entertainment at this point

[sturdy hill]

guh

[outer ermine]

ur not in it lin?

[frigid vector]

I don't stream

or well

I do once a year

😔

gotta keep twitch partner

tournament is strictly a streamer one, since the whole point is to drive up hype around the game by streaming your runs daily

[sterile moat]

Is there even any en speedrun streamer

[frigid vector]

although a lot of them only do final days, not sure if lately they've stipulated that you need to do a certain number

streamers are usually content creators so

not necessarily speedrunners in so far as players that are competent and know how to play well (so it tends to overlap)

[sterile moat]

These types mainly

[lyric latch]

I think they corrected it to allow Talents now

[peak root]

can I get help with this team? I want to replace arclight she isn’t doing much of anything beside generating a negligible amount of sp currently I was using her for her cs to generate sp for perl bs x3 then ult electrical infliction then Gil ult for corro 4 plus’s a three stack of vuln for endmini crush then crystals for ult, if there is any one who can replace arclights role in the team?

[terse valley]

is that dps perlica

with detonate?

[peak root]

It’s not really meant to be anything, so maybe I just like trying random rots and felt this could use some work

[peak root]

No deto

Stanza

[terse valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1065096926128775208.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

u should at least make a goal

like who's the main damage dealer

[peak root]

My goal is endmini corro 4 + 3stack vuln crystal crush

Endmini

[terse valley]

thats uhhh

something indeed

[rugged vale]

Corro doesnt amp crush damage no ?

[peak root]

So I’m thinking either a heat inflictor or elec

[peak root]

Thought it did I wasn’t hitting those numbers without it

[terse valley]

corrosion decreases enemy's resistance to all damage types

but is it worth doing lv4 coro? with our current rosters i dont think so

[peak root]

I get that in the first 30 seconds and half that time is spent waiting for the boss to jump around

And I chose corro over electrification because it boosts both endmini and perl ults

[terse valley]

might as well foregone the 4 stack corro and just use ardelia ebs instead

foregone? thats a word?

forget

whatever, ardelia it

[peak root]

That’s a word and it worked too

[terse valley]

u have oblivion?

[peak root]

I actually really like that word it’s one of my favorites, so ardelia in for arc

[peak root]

No I do have deto I don’t have the essence tho and it’s low lvl

[terse valley]

well if ur still keen on perlica+endmin theres oblivion on sale rn if u have spare arsenals, make a main dps perlica out of it

[peak root]

🫡

Thnx

[pulsar seal]

anyone have video of zhuang fangyi doing triagelos? cause wtf the boss is so annoying with all of his phases

[nova lance]

whos playing on mobile?

[swift onyx]

✋

[nova lance]

is it normal that it heats up?

[swift onyx]

Yeah

Especially if u run on higher settings than the game recommends like i do

[nova lance]

very high is my default and it still heats up

[sturdy hill]

me

[nova lance]

wut settings do u run?

[sturdy hill]

medium ig

[gaunt mason]

as long as you’re not playing for like an hour straight it should be fine

[nova lance]

does it still heat up?

[sturdy hill]

yes but thats not an issue

[nova lance]

...

[sturdy hill]

for me

[nova lance]

phone cooler?

[gaunt mason]

or just lower your settings

[sturdy hill]

walking outside

no phone cooler

[nova lance]

[sturdy hill]

touch grass

[nova lance]

genshin more optimized than this

[swift onyx]

Then lower yoir settings

[sturdy hill]

but its hoyo

[swift onyx]

Its a device hard game

[gaunt mason]

dunno i haven’t played in years

[nova lance]

yeah ill do that 👍

just wondering if people have the same experience or its just me

[swift onyx]

We have, yes pookie

[gaunt mason]

mine doesn’t start heating up till like an hour in on very high

[sturdy hill]

playing ef on this btw

[nova lance]

[nova lance]

wut device do u have

[sturdy hill]

8 cpu core is the biggest flex i can do

[nova lance]

mine heats up after 10 minutes

[nova lance]

im assuming low graphics?

[sturdy hill]

no

[gaunt mason]

17 pro

it heats up less with the case off

my old phone heated up either way tho

[sturdy hill]

very low

[nova lance]

maybe its just my snapdragon heating up

[sturdy hill]

i could pull this off

[nova lance]

30 fps gaming

[honest hill]

@outer ermine I sent u 4 7s

[honest hill]

PC when

[sturdy hill]

no

costs r ass

[honest hill]

what no

[nova lance]

AI bubble dying when?

[sturdy hill]

gpu prices r bad

[honest hill]

especially rn

[sturdy hill]

when the model finally takes less computational reqs

and become smarter

[nova lance]

can the macbook neo run EF?

[sturdy hill]

i dont use apple ecology

too pricey

[nova lance]

less than a PC

[sturdy hill]

nawh

second hand gaming bettr

[nova lance]

ew

[sturdy hill]

ram prices

so less ram

[honest hill]

it sucks too

don't wanna get locked into that ecosystem

[sturdy hill]

i love

adb

[honest hill]

what's that

[nova lance]

not apple

[honest hill]

yeah but what is adb

[nova lance]

idk android?

[honest hill]

idk

[ocean turret]

i can only so 2:30 on nefarith using ember team

[rugged vale]

ember moment

[ocean turret]

im using stagger team cause yeah my dmg isnt strong enough

ember, chen and pog using sm set

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknight-chen-qianyu-perlica-chen-gif-10681615105926501594

[pulsar seal]

ty man

[sterile moat]

phase 2 cant hurt you if it doesnt exist

[river scroll]

who is the fastest atm on new dragon boss? zhuang team?

[sterile moat]

yea

[river scroll]

i see... thx

[sterile moat]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1f4oGBrETw

[honest hill]

Ohh thats smart

[fossil helm]

iana's sheet stopped being updated, so now I am floundering and literally don't know what to do in 1.2

[bronze plume]

crazy idea ask people or

research the awnsers yoself

[sturdy hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229271586352402452/1483274666259906640/IMG_2892.gif

[drifting quest]

If it's fangyi use Prydwen
If future unit guides on prydwen match the quality then just start using prydwen

There's the 'replacement' sheet in #1493499627830251530 but I don't know how good it is so ymmv

Other than that idk use #help and #team-build for their intended purposes

[river scroll]

what is the fastest clear for lr on new boss?

[red stream]

So what should arclight be doing in fangyi teams, only combo skill used? Gear not going to be int focused?

[swift onyx]

Yes, basicaly
While arclights elec dmg buff is decent, the cost of 2 sp bars and 2 electrifications is not worth it

She doesnt need int in fangyi team, no
You either run 3pc frontier + uge off piece
Or just full uge

[red stream]

Uge?

[swift onyx]

Ult gain efficiency

[red stream]

Ty

[cinder oxide]

Just a quick mention that #help yapping has been directed to #infra-station by the mods so uhh we might be silent for a good while . Join us there if yall want to chill to regulars without having to deal with #endfield

[bronze plume]

gang we are theory craft we can yap cuz its fucking dead in here 23 hours of a day

[cinder oxide]

Lmao fair no mod checks on yall either

[bronze plume]

mainly for the worst in that regard tho

[limpid rock]

What's the UGE breakpoints for Akekuri, Antal and Pog?

[drifting quest]

In what team? What rot? What goal?

[tight haven]

ake is really ugly to map out uge breakpoints for because of her cskill trigger

so you will need to be specific when youre asking for breakpoints

[chilly bolt]

Just give as much uge as you can for ake

[karmic tusk]

anybody know how the rossi fangyi team works? ive seen it run but have no clue if its even any good

[bronze plume]

its whale stuff

rossi and or fangyi needs pots for it to be good

if you dont

its just wheelchair rossi

[honest hill]

Don't bother unless you have P5P5 for both

[drifting quest]

It works at p0p0

Its just niche

[ripe adder]

chat is this better than hanging river?

if somone have calcs let me know

[honest hill]

@forest lily so close lol

[drifting quest]

in short timeline speedrun stuff it can be

2nd rot onwards it should begin to fall off

[flint burrow]

What is this UI ?

[ripe adder]

enka

[ripe adder]

i guess that makes sense unless we got 20mil hp rhodagn yinglung is prob better then

[drifting quest]

if all you're doing is bullying rhodagn then sure

[ripe adder]

is there enough hp boss in this game

[drifting quest]

phase changes on every other boss

[ripe adder]

triag skippable i guess

ill just keep hanging river fro now cant waste catalyst when theres so much to artifice

[forest lily]

Niceee

[honest hill]

just have to crit 5%

should I even bother w perlica skills

[cinder oxide]

Lvl 9 is fine unless dps Perlica

[honest hill]

what about her CS

[cinder oxide]

If you somehow need her cs for a rotation go ahead but usually -1s isn’t needed for anything

[honest hill]

ah okay then

I forgot how much qingbo gives

yeah it's prob not worth it then

@forest lily I used this set

that run I did was 1:26 could've been 1:23 if zhuang bs killed it

[forest lily]

Catastrophe perlica is good

[honest hill]

yeah for this team

it's like a must ngl

that extra 50 SP is nice

[pseudo hinge]

Whats best gear for Yvonne?

[drifting quest]

MI Sec

hasn't changed since iana's guide so far so you can just use that

may change in future

[pseudo hinge]

ofc yeah

like endmins did rigth?

[drifting quest]

endmins should change when we get their p3 but we dont have it yet

we dont know exactly how p3 works yet so no certainty

[pseudo hinge]

got it

for endmin I have this but then I saw someone suggesting another

[drifting quest]

off piece gloves has better performance right now

[pseudo hinge]

yeah thats what I saw

[drifting quest]

not enough to be worth changing since you artificed

[pseudo hinge]

exactly

[drifting quest]

wait and see how things land post p3 and go from there

[pseudo hinge]

will do

thanks

[halcyon zenith]

Is the m3 -1s on Gilberta combo skill ever relevant?

[drifting quest]

yes

[halcyon zenith]

For which team? Debating just getting that

[swift onyx]

We dont?
Its clear no?
Consume crystal from combo with ult->gets 15 ult energy back

[halcyon zenith]

Alrdy have fangyi m9, perlica combo m3 and arc light combo and ult m1

[drifting quest]

waiting to hard confirm things like uge interactions

[swift onyx]

Oh that way

[drifting quest]

its probably obvious how it works and interacts yes

but we dont know for certain

[drifting quest]

a lot of teams can make use of it as long as you're routing around it

most people will not actually route around it and have the time save matter

dps interactions are a thing too ofc

[daring dove]

Just 8 & half characters left to go until everyone is maxed out with all skills at least rank 9..

[halcyon zenith]

Alright but is it noticeable on liek regular fangyi rots?

[drifting quest]

if you route around it properly it can be

if you dont then it naturally isnt

there's no one answer

[torn pilot]

Hey guys, i wanted to update my gear for my cryo team and i was wondering if you guys could double check to make sure these sets are all right.

im pretty sure i want to switch to qingbo on tangtang but im not sure what the off-piece is

[bronze plume]

honestly not really worth the swap to qingbo since you have bonekrusha maxxed

[torn pilot]

also wondering what tangtangs best weapon is if she doesnt have sig, asking for a friend

[drifting quest]

bp

[echo cove]

No xira?

[torn pilot]

i think its worth artificing a qingbo set tbh, its a pretty good 3p and at worst i want to have a set stashed away if i ever need

so minaswell throw it on tangtang while its her best

[drifting quest]

there's some stuff with OBJ but it's more niche

[torn pilot]

gilberta and yvonne didnt get much new gear this patch right? still seems like these are optimal builds, unless im missing smth

and btw, whats the off-piece for qingbo tangtang

[echo cove]

Can be if the cs cdr matter in ur rot. U will lose quite abit of dmg on ur tt tho

[torn pilot]

oh really? then is it pretty realistic that this set is still better in some cases?

i do appreciate how much damage she does

i dont have p1 tho

[echo cove]

Better is relative

[bronze plume]

both can be better in different scenarios, team comps and rots

[drifting quest]

gilb has new options

[echo cove]

It's more like it may help reach ult energy needed to ult in conjunction with other stuff

[drifting quest]

yvonne is still same

[echo cove]

By trading quite alot of dmg

[torn pilot]

i must admit, ive never thought to myself that having a lower combo cooldown would improve much for my team

it already does exactly what i need it to, as is

but thats relative to the fact that ive never tried tt with a lower combo skill cd

[drifting quest]

lower combo cdr means more combos means more energy means lower uge req

in turn can mean more damage

[echo cove]

^

[torn pilot]

gotchaa

[echo cove]

Only if it actually is more combo tho

[torn pilot]

hmm maybe ill just artifice perlicas qingbo set for now

and not switch after all

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah but ill be real

[echo cove]

Cos if it's not, then it's kinda useless atp

[drifting quest]

if you dont play around the conditional of a set

[echo cove]

Perlica qingbo is kinda...

[bronze plume]

for qingbo off piece you either use cryo dmg bonus or all skill dmg bonus

[drifting quest]

cant defend you

[bronze plume]

which all skill is qingbo gloves so

[echo cove]

After testing, i feel like it's so garbo

[torn pilot]

shuo what are gilbertas other options btw? are any of them relevant to my team?

[echo cove]

Perlica qingbo don't contribute anything aside from giving u less AI

Unless u run perlica on zhuang ofc

[drifting quest]

qb/frontiers popped up this patch
xir, sm and hw still exist with some off piece considerations
cata is a thing for speedruns in some comps as much as I hate it

[torn pilot]

yeah thats the plan, i got pretty lucky and got p1 zhuang so im excited to build her team

[echo cove]

I don't feel like u even need to artifice perlica's qingbo if u run her on zhuang

[drifting quest]

there's not much incentive to for the average player, no

[echo cove]

Like what's the extra stat for anw? An elec that won't exist?

[drifting quest]

if you only run qb perl on fangyi teams

if you flex her into other teams as well then naturally AI artificing and the like can have more roi

dps'ing attributes for dps can be worth it, esp with oblivi perlica setups

[echo cove]

Most other team u'd rather pulsar for the +30 AI anw

[drifting quest]

differs per team

[echo cove]

Ah well dps perlica might change things

[drifting quest]

anything with clear burst windows prefers the higher ai

others can prefer more uptime

[echo cove]

What's example of others in this case?

[drifting quest]

something like tt main dps has a much more spread out damage profile with less clear burst windows

[echo cove]

Oh right tt mdps exist, i forgot abt that

Fair enuf

[daring dove]

[torn pilot]

do i gamble for MB

ive got all the weapons i needed so far for all my characters, if i pull for mb im just burning the backup stash

[drifting quest]

Wait and see if 1.3 is replacing him or not

[torn pilot]

maybe next bp weapon is an upgrade to valiant as well

[drifting quest]

We have no clue what 1.3 units are even if we can speculate and we have no clue whether they'd be physical and from there if they replace lifeng or someone else

[torn pilot]

whats the rotation to phase skip rhodagn with physical team?

[drifting quest]

Just stagger him and burst in time

[torn pilot]

i cant seem to do it

maybe my rotation is wrong

at most i just deal 75%

[daring dove]

I mean you'd imagine you want P2/P3 Lifeng until you care too much about his sig anyway.