theorycrafting

[forest lily]

on 2nd you can use it immediatelly with uge and get it back for rots that take longer

or

[bronze plume]

actual name of it

[edgy crater]

chain of the fool
night weeping iron stake
unlucky bone

[frozen tide]

So use at same time with zhuang ult?

Ic

[bronze plume]

why do people call them the other thing bruh

[edgy crater]

give u ptsd

[forest lily]

Early use: Zhuang Ult > Gilb Ult > Arc Ult > Zhuang BS > Zhuang BS > Zhuang FS > Zhuang CS > Perly CS > Zhuang BS > Zhuang BS spam (use gilb ult when available)

[bronze plume]

does endfieldtools just continue to update pulls forever once you import

[bronze plume]

gachas give me enuf of that

[forest lily]

or
Late Use: Arclight Only: Zhuang Ult > Arc Ult > Zhuang BS > Zhuang FS > Zhuang BS > Zhuang CS > Gilb Ult > Perly CS > Zhuang BS
@frozen tide

[frozen tide]

Tyty

[edgy crater]

nah, fgo droprate horrible

[forest lily]

no

[bronze plume]

ive heard stories of it being hot garbo pain

[forest lily]

dont diss fgo

[edgy crater]

it is a fucking pain

[outer ermine]

just have ur game run for 30hrs straight

[edgy crater]

theres also demon heart to the point any global raid featuring it gone within few hours

barbatos, give me ur drop

[outer ermine]

i swear i saw someone complaining abt needing 46 chain or sumshit for a skill and i was just fucking laughing

[edgy crater]

nah, its 72 chain x3

[bronze plume]

so you basically just delete then import again whenevery you wanna see it

[forest lily]

dont delte

[outer ermine]

gl to bro

[forest lily]

just import it updates

[edgy crater]

eresh back then literally munching those chain

[outer ermine]

dont miss it at all, good riddance

[bronze plume]

oh so you just import everytime got it thx

[edgy crater]

well yeah

[forest sentinel]

hgwebview don't even give token and link anymore tho

can you still do that clown?

[forest lily]

ytou need to manually get the record link with external apps and knowledge now

it sendsthe link to the server and you need to manually grab the link when it sends it

[dry kindle]

Whel

[bronze plume]

I

Concur

[dry kindle]

Man no p4 arclight is actual aids

[edgy crater]

just pull then

[warped sorrel]

Buy her in shop

[dry kindle]

A fuck yoy

B I'm only p2 not even 3

C fuck you

[grand lagoon]

is it fine to immediately dash after ZF EBS? and also BS

[dry kindle]

Ebs yeah pre sure

Bs you can cancel doing too fast

[bronze plume]

Yoy

[outer ermine]

oh god i need pudding and stew to skip cs2 the critfish on phase 1 is already tough

[dry kindle]

L

Average recrisis speedrunner L

[outer ermine]

maybe i settle for sub 50

[dry kindle]

What boss

[outer ermine]

nef

ill just farm but i need the fucking roccs now too

[dry kindle]

Ew

Not even sub 40

[outer ermine]

after u

if zfy can do it then shatter can do it

[daring dove]

Has Fangyi actually managed to claim any records yet btw?

[dry kindle]

Zfy is 33s

[outer ermine]

it aint u tho

[dry kindle]

Go beat it

[outer ermine]

she has 32 on nef

[dry kindle]

Looks inside

Rossi

[outer ermine]

fraud op can we delete

[dry kindle]

Probably tops when stuff stops dying in 30 seconds

Until then 🗿

[outer ermine]

strikerrr do u set up towers

[grand lagoon]

just use 1 acid

any number of mortar depends on thrash mob and the rest is hyper beam

[dry kindle]

Or just

All mortars anyway

[outer ermine]

i want my dlss5 LMDA

[sterile moat]

@daring dove can you me confirm if using the qb set with gloves + both bdmg accessory is able to ult with rossi at p3 gil

[dry kindle]

Just do math 🥹

[sterile moat]

Wait nvm the stats on the glove sucks lol

Hmm idk if its worth dropping bonekrusher for this

[dry kindle]

Why frontier gloves

Nvm glove uge sucks

[sterile moat]

Is there any other uge gloves

[dry kindle]

Nope

[hollow zodiac]

What exactly is "skill damage" is it the combo skill or the battle skill? or both? or does it include ultimate/other effects?

[reef crescent]

anyone has zhuang calcs?

[lost zinc]

anything other than basic attacks and talents i believe. but i would like confirmation on the talents part (ie rossi's dot damage)

[sterile moat]

Calcs for?

[rugged vale]

calcs stands for calculator

[hearty tree]

energy calcs or damage calcs

[manic kayak]

Any thoughts on having Arclight wear 3pc Type 50 Yinglung set with 1pc Redeemer Seal and holding OBJ Edge of Lightness while Alesh wears 3pc Frontiers set with 1pc Xiranite Gloves and holding Thermite Cutter for Zhuang Fangyi team?
Idk if anyone's tested this yet. Thought running double Frontiers set on Arclight and Alesh was a waste, esp on Arclight since we don't get to use her wild trekker buff anyway

On a sidenote: Perlica on Qingbo Set, should I opt for Oblivion, Detonation Unit, or WIld Wanderer?

[dry kindle]

All skill applies to bskill cskill and ult

[outer ermine]

imagine being smort

[dry kindle]

Fund my tt

[outer ermine]

.paypal

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-me-paypal-paypal-me-30k-perlica-arknights-gif-3472834387034500009

[outer ermine]

30k ginseng
30k meat
30k slug
30k rocc
then
ill p5p5

wait too late and ill add the mats needed for cd food

[sour gazelle]

ig it's time to accept it's better to just not bring avy

[dry kindle]

🗿

[jade hemlock]

how good is P2 Rossi? I got her by accident while rolling on zhuang

[sterile moat]

pretty good

7% crit is nice

[dry kindle]

"Lets" you swap scope to radar

[sterile moat]

makes it less worst on average to swap to radar yea

[heady merlin]

Guys finisher can trigger only when the boss staggered?

Or there's the other way to trigger finisher without staggered

[edgy crater]

uge too

[hearty tree]

Finisher can only be triggered when enemy is fully staggered, ie white bar turns yellow

[rapid heron]

@sterile moat https://youtu.be/WdOp1vFT4_k my 0 Ult start rotation guide for fangyi if you wan to hlep me check if anything can be improve or correct. Sr for the accent though

[sterile moat]

i have 0 clue what her normal 0 ult rota is like lmao

[rapid heron]

XD

i mean it sitll same concept

[dry kindle]

perlica slab its just hit mf with perlica

zfy on uge kit

i kill myself

[rapid heron]

u can chekc if all the possible buff is active or anything can make it faster

[rapid heron]

?

[sterile moat]

no the concept is so different, you dont wanna see what my rotation looks like

Perlica cs > gilb cs > zfy bs
Perlica bs x2 > zfy cs + bs
Perlica cs > gilb cs > zfy bs

i ult in 17s

[rapid heron]

wtf

[dry kindle]

where tf are my watch later vids on pc

[rapid heron]

can you test with lvl 1 wepaon in axe and balista and see if you clsoe to stagger the boss?

[sterile moat]

i dont stagger till after ult

[dry kindle]

meanwhile p0 is 32s

[rapid heron]

so if you get Ult and activate right awya

long long before stagger the boss?

[sterile moat]

yea

[rapid heron]

and any stagger set on support?

[sterile moat]

i think its technically possible on gilberta but i havent tried

might be a p4 gilberta only tech...

[dry kindle]

[sterile moat]

i use xiranite tho on her

[dry kindle]

wait we have a 26s uge kit?

inb4 p4

[sterile moat]

uge kit should be able to save 100sp no?

[dry kindle]

200

500sp 2 combo vs 700sp 3 combo slab pre sure

[sterile moat]

hmm interesting

[rapid heron]

i go for 2 combo and 3 BS

[sterile moat]

since i also take 500 sp with uge kit

just that i force it earlier

[main nova]

record for being lewd eventhough dress less revealing

[outer ermine]

breh 9 runs only dropped 34 energized

[dry kindle]

are you on 3 xiranite

[grim hill]

hey what's a good fangyi weapon and gear, just got her.

is the battle pass weapon good?

[rapid heron]

OK IF YOU F2P

but always go for sig

[dry kindle]

dies

[sterile moat]

whats the 500sp rota

[grim hill]

well I'm somewhat low for the arsenal ticket, just finish digging for LR sig, got like 8k

[main nova]

i guess thats ok, but since she is dps you kinda lock in for sig

[grim hill]

dont know what weapon to look tbh

[main nova]

what do you mean

her weapon is on ther arsenal, gambling man

[grim hill]

like next weapon to focus for, tang tang sig?

[rapid heron]

last rite sig always there

i would go for fangyi sig if you plan to use her

it depend on who u want to use

tangtnag more universal and can fit into mreo teams

more

[grim hill]

well I'm using LR team so I dig for it before fangyi

[main nova]

you approach the game in wrong way, you should pick which character u like to play with and build team around them

[grim hill]

dont know if I would even use fangyi tbh....like as a main team

[main nova]

well its up to you bth ._.

[dry kindle]

can we nuke zfy p1 okty

[civic wolf]

is wild wanderer better than detounit for perlica for fangyi?

[grim hill]

what is her team looks like? I only got perlica properly built

[main nova]

the game has no rock paper scissors system so it up to player to play which they like the most

[grim hill]

is tang tang sig really insane though compared to Home Longing? +39% atk, +44% cryo, with another +56% cryo after skill

[dry kindle]

hujgwqbeknweqwghuyikenbjqwlewq

kill me

its a p1 rot

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[rapid heron]

P2W

[red stream]

for tangtang, battlepass weapon=xirinite, sig=qinbo?

[outer ermine]

finally, 45 is real

[main nova]

definitely sig

dont let her class fools you, she deal as much damage as striker

[red stream]

my priority is physical>electric>cryo, but im setting up the gear so if i make too many and i reach artificing goal, i can shove it onto someone
i have 27k arsenal, so hence my debating on pulling tangtang sig or not. the qinbo stuff looks too good tho

[main nova]

too much character

i only stick to laev and tang2 currently, tho Fangyi is on the way but she still lack those *6 sp regen character

[molten star]

That's like only pog

Oh wait

[red stream]

probably the future characters will be 6 star sps

[molten star]

Mifu is vanguard for fangyi

[main nova]

it probably gonna be mifu but it just my speculation

fangyi need those sp regen who can inflict elec consistently afterall

[red stream]

so ur telling me hold off my fangyi team and not raise alesh for mifu sounds like a deal

ill take waifu lineup anyday

[main nova]

the dev kinda quite deliberately make her sp efficiency locked behind potential

[molten star]

Alesh only needs to be like 600 int and level 60 for gear

[civic wolf]

is it generally a bad idea to pull for perma char sig?

i'm already at P3 Ardelia so uhhh

[dry kindle]

lrs is fine

the rest are just why

[civic wolf]

no reason to if i already have limited chars such as Yvonne and TT do I?

[dry kindle]

ig

[civic wolf]

does Perlica use Detonation Unit in Fangyi team?

[dry kindle]

wild wanderer

det is too cancer to trigger for normal stuff

[civic wolf]

is det unit mainly for when the character stacks the same element?

[dry kindle]

its when you can do it for playing the game

not going out of your way

eg antal and xaihi

[civic wolf]

so is detonation unit overrated this whole time, or nah not really

[dry kindle]

its good

its not use 100sp on nothing else good

[civic wolf]

so this is useful for xaihi because you actually use her battle skill, but has there been any other instance where det unit is useful lol

[dry kindle]

antal

[civic wolf]

right

gilberta uses stanza right? but when i was running Tangtang Rossi, there's no way Perlica or Gilberta can stack element so uh

Stanza on one of them and Monaihe on Gilberta?

[dry kindle]

ideally gilb sig

[civic wolf]

wait no Wild Wanderer would be usable on Perlica even if isn't much cuz of Rossi phys, i think?

[dry kindle]

yeah thats basically all you have

[dense aurora]

worth to get fangyi max copy+ weap?

[civic wolf]

weap? yeah. The gap (if prydwen is belieavable) between BP and sig is stupidly noticeable this time.

Max Copy?? I dont know man there's nothing demanding enough atm in the game to warrant P5 unless you're such a simp you want that leek player profile all over you

[sterile moat]

its a stupidly strong p5 if you want to go for it

[inland quarry]

Long term p5 zfy may be better

Res ignore is a crazy strong stat if res ever matters

[outer ermine]

finally someone stepping up for community timer

hopefully it carries over cuz this official is trash

[dry kindle]

🗿

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1pwdDBJE41/

bruh

[outer ermine]

its just same strat as other one, just w community timer

but still need to do official cuz mfs will atk anything

[dry kindle]

🗿

[sterile moat]

hmm he didnt ult to teleport at the start, would have saved a bit more time

his ult still had leftover time at the end

subs 30s official could be doable

[honest hill]

@outer ermine is qingbo set on tt better?

[distant python]

So why do we use det on perlica in avy teams?, is it just you have spare sp cause avy doesn't use much

[lusty kernel]

Does the weapon banner for zhuang extend till next reset?

[gritty olive]

till next next banner

[lusty kernel]

What about the pity?

[rough inlet]

Electrification

[lusty kernel]

I pulled 6times still have 2 more to guarantee

[rough inlet]

I hope for a better perlica

[lusty kernel]

Does that pity carry over

[river ermine]

weapon issue pity stays in the banner until the banner is gone

[lusty kernel]

Nice i still have a chance on getting her bis

Thanks for the info

[smoky quarry]

Perlica alter when?

[inland quarry]

All limited weapon banners last for 3 limited operator banners, including the one it started on

For example, tangtang's weapon banner ends when zhuang fangyi's banner ends

[outer ermine]

go ask sin im not caught up w cryo rn

[honest hill]

get to work peasant

[outer ermine]

and im literally burst biased smh i dont need cdr for 2 cs b4 bs shenanigans

[inland quarry]

We have this

[outer ermine]

just get p1

[dry kindle]

ok whel

[inland quarry]

P1 doesn't help does it?

Tt cs in cryo teams is to get infliction from ult

[honest hill]

fund me

[honest hill]

I have M3 CS so idk

[outer ermine]

is her ult double dash diff from normal form

[sterile moat]

yea

can be spammed

every dash is a double dash

[outer ermine]

wont u trigger the wave or ig she can jump on ult

[sterile moat]

i mean, it triggers timestop if you dodge it

[sterile moat]

its definitely faster no?

[outer ermine]

ur a bit off on server tick do the -1:-1

so i can see on time

[sterile moat]

just basing it off on normal run time vs ult , should be faster

even if it only saves like 1 or 2s

They just need to put every boss a million miles away and zfy will always get the record

[outer ermine]

u can dash early and take the hit atleast, if u can time it on 2nd wave then its prob good

[sterile moat]

The strat is to gamble on 8% dmg immunity

Idk if it works on the wave lmao

[outer ermine]

mfw 6 dashes reset w 0 stam when u dont crit

or dont immune

[sterile moat]

have fun resetting

[dry kindle]

just be luckier

[outer ermine]

yea u can jump first and take 2,3 u get knocked ur fucked

remember ur fishing w jakubs btw

the dash dash jump ult is actually pretty nice, ur just holding ult on jump in time w 2

[sterile moat]

Yup

[sterile moat]

But i think you can still jump with ult and save time?

[outer ermine]

if u can get used to timing when to ba or else you'll dive

[harsh slate]

Hmm not sure if why my damaged is low even if I have Fangyi almost all max out

Trying to clear the timer on bosses like, within 2 minutes I would get a new medal

I was trying to follow guide in YouTube but I am still confused as how fast they explained it and how fast the fight was

[wispy shuttle]

you get to 10% susc faster and you need less uge on TT if she can CS more often

also very important for TT's personal damage to always have two extra spouts

[inland quarry]

Makes sense

Has any math been done on qingbo for perlica on cryo teams?

[sterile moat]

No math needed

Doesnt really benefit from the reduced cs

[native aurora]

Hi

Guys, do you know the best build and comp for estella?

Or any online calculator where I can do the math?

[sterile moat]

Rossi endmin alesh estella ?

[native aurora]

No tt?

[sterile moat]

No

[native aurora]

Set?

For estella

[sterile moat]

Need to ask @outer ermine

The only shatter player here

[native aurora]

A based person

[dry kindle]

"Shatter"

[sterile moat]

[dry kindle]

Welp back to malding for a not p1 cold start

[ocean turret]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

shatter dapan

[oak vigil]

Tbh I also want to play shatter but holy shit, I am still busy building my second team lol

I am beyond broke

[oak vigil]

Endmin/Estella/Pogranichnik and I forgot who fits here as 4th

Alesh I think?

Okay I rechecked, yeah it is Alesh with solidification

[sterile moat]

bruh can zfy solo 3-1 now?

with dmg immunity

[dry kindle]

Go slap on a uge build and find out

[sterile moat]

WTF

YOU CAN

LOLOLOLOL

AHAHAHA

i dmg immunity the 1 shot

you need to win x2 11%

[gritty briar]

oh the talent

wtf

[sterile moat]

@dry kindle

LOLOLOLOL

i died to the second chain

fuck

[daring dove]

Do it until you win I dare you

[sterile moat]

bet

i feel like i dont have enough artifice on uge gear

FML SO CLOSE

[harsh slate]

Solo?

[sterile moat]

yea

[harsh slate]

Oh

Yeah it's like almost impossible or impossible to dodge that bind attacks... Well for me at least

[summer narwhal]

when do I just start using Gel? I swear that Crit stat does not want to move

[native aurora]

It's better that sword than the steel?

[harsh slate]

Used all my sanity

[summer narwhal]

yes

and I can use it on Rossi (lack her Sig)

[harsh slate]

So or by the way how do I rotation for Fangyi?

[native aurora]

Cool

Is the bis right?

[warped sorrel]

Arknights endfield

[native aurora]

Endfield Arknights

[harsh slate]

Endnights

[summer narwhal]

for Chen? It was last patch at least, hopefully that doesn't change

[kind grove]

is it a good idea to drop cr on rossi for lynx slab atk boost?

[native aurora]

I'll claim that sword later

[native aurora]

I don't think so

[kind grove]

I'm confused bc I saw people using it on yvonne but not on rossi

[native aurora]

Maybe the ult

Yvonne have more hits in her ult than rossi

[thorn shore]

rossi offpiece is the ult dmg gloves

bc her ult is busted

[drifting berry]

Does skill dmg dealt mean battle skill?

[thorn shore]

(for every skill)

reading the gear explains the gear

[kind grove]

so that ult multiplier compensates for atk loss?

[thorn shore]

surely, im not the math guy so im not gonna claim i did the math and know for sure

[drifting quest]

Idk why they're so inconsistent with calling it all skill

[kind grove]

ok got it gonna switch to that then ty!

[echo cove]

W8 qingbo is all skill? Not just bs?

[thorn shore]

bonekrusher is the battle skill set

im pretty sure

youre all subconciously mistaking the two

[bronze plume]

good morning fellow people

[honest hill]

All skill

[drifting berry]

yeah I see it now.

idk why I even bother, trying to see if arclight sub-dps is possible while already knowing it's not possible

would be funny if swordmancer worked on her

[drifting quest]

it was a thing in umbral 1

just very redundant

unviable in fangyi comps since it made use of arclight bskill

[drifting berry]

unfortunatelly

[ripe adder]

what do we think about this food

[drifting berry]

Yeah, if you start with full ult energy and don't need to cycle for another ult is actually good.

Perlica current gear isn't good anyways

You only bring Qingbo for the combo cooldown, and arts intencity is useless on fangyi teams

[ripe adder]

I don't think any enemies rn can last for another cycle anyway

20mil hp rhodagn when cygames

[thorn shore]

real

[drifting berry]

yeah, you have to be like real bad for it to outlast Fangyi ult. Even Rhodagn cannot 2nd phase cheese Fangyi.

[warped idol]

slab gaming moment

[thorn shore]

cata makes cold starts feel so good

[drifting quest]

im not sure how short term 50sp beats consistent combo skill alignment on a 0 ult start but pop off i guess

ult start speedrunning sure

[drifting berry]

Because 50 is higher than 2 obviously

[drifting quest]

the sort of logic I would not be surprised to hear

[drifting berry]

bread tastes better than key ahh

[rapid heron]

@sterile moat any specific reason why sopme people and prydwen say the aux xiranite arm is betetr than the xiraniter glove ste up?

or is it juust easier to swap to lynx slab?

i did calculation and the arm give less total DMG than the glove setup

[sterile moat]

idk if theres a breakpoint

[rapid heron]

unless they need specific amount of UGE for rotation

[sterile moat]

i know i need the kit

for my own breakpoint

[thorn shore]

bc i dont use whatever standard bum rotation you arclight using lynx slab having people do

so im not worried abt the 2s gap

and just having another 50 sp makes me indescribably happy

unspeakably overjoyed

[drifting quest]

Use your free will

[sterile moat]

closest i have gotten ahhhhhhhh

do i need p5 weap or something

or some insane lucky crits

[thorn shore]

i am the free thinker

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-gif-17339853886032698653

[smoky quarry]

Space exploration event in 3 days

What are we, some kind of starset society?

[thorn shore]

you dont know how excited i was after hearing the name of the event

only to learn

it some photo thing

[chilly bolt]

Pretty much all the events are ass

[drifting quest]

Something something

[chilly bolt]

But free stuff is free stuff

[drifting quest]

I will travel the distance in your eyes

[bronze plume]

terrible joke

[drifting quest]

#2 starset fan hating on starset

[bronze plume]

ong

they havent realeased a song in like 2 months

dead artist

[drifting berry]

they need to make these birds faster or something

while I typed this message they reset position

not worth the 15 orundum

[sterile moat]

Whats the best dps uge set for fang yi

I dont think its possible to enter ult in 4 skills solo right?

[bronze plume]

xiranite

probably

[drifting berry]

yeah, either Xiranite arm or Redeemer seal

[drifting quest]

The words everyone loved to hear

It depends

[drifting berry]

I'm not sacrificing slab for uge

that's for sure

and the other 3 pieces are set in stone

[sterile moat]

Like legit just solo zfy

[bronze plume]

me when

people have options

[bronze plume]

yeah xiranite

[sterile moat]

I want the fastest and highest dps set to ult

[hollow swan]

does Perlica's P4 make her electrification status level 2?

[bronze plume]

oh other teammates

headass set bonus

[drifting berry]

still lvl 1, just enhanced

[chilly bolt]

Still lvl1

[bronze plume]

give it to the holder as well bruh lock in

[hollow swan]

interesting. is it actually more powerful than a level 2?

[bronze plume]

why does this mf exist

[drifting berry]

Ember shield stuff

[bronze plume]

people play ember?

[chilly bolt]

There's also this

[bronze plume]

thought that was a myth

[bronze plume]

yeah bro thats min maxxing ardelia healing

[chilly bolt]

1k heal per sheep

[inland quarry]

I'm pretty sure their speed is based on your speed. You can get ahead of them but never outrun them

[bronze plume]

no its way more

1k heal is just with lynx bonus and maxxed will ignoring heal output stuff

[drifting berry]

[outer ermine]

healmaxxing

[bronze plume]

i think at least

[drifting berry]

didn't even bother with skills

[bronze plume]

actually i probably used that lynx kit

[chilly bolt]

Wtf fat thermite

[bronze plume]

fuck upgrading any lynx piece

[winged delta]

Ember is badass

[thorn shore]

if only ember was a banner char

so they would bother giving her a good kit

[digital sinew]

Does Wulfgard want to use qingbo gear or still hotworks? as rossi's support

[bronze plume]

its ok she will be useful in max risk surely

[outer ermine]

[native aurora]

Hifumi, do you main shatter?

[outer ermine]

only rossi ver

[native aurora]

Is the best estella comp?

[drifting quest]

rossi shatter and chen shatter are somewhat sidegrades

arguments for both

[raw spruce]

Does someone can help me and tell me the equipments i need to equip on zhuang ? i saw that the pinned excel doesn't cover this at the moment

[outer ermine]

is this another estella mdps or just use estella

[drifting quest]

iana's doc is depreciated and will probably remain that way
give prydwen's guide for fangyi a read, it's the best ive seen

doesnt translate to other unit guides being good on prydwen, just fangyi's for now

[raw spruce]

could you tell me how to acess it then ?

[native aurora]

Is rossi alesh endmi estella?

right?

rossi/chen

[drifting quest]

https://www.prydwen.gg/arknights-endfield/characters/zhuang-fangyi

reliant on reading the review section for information, isn't exhaustive

[outer ermine]

yea

[native aurora]

Prydwen is doing good guides?

[drifting quest]

fangyi's is good

cannot comment on others

[native aurora]

And the set for estella?

[native aurora]

lol

[outer ermine]

depends what u want from her; she can run sm if u need stagger, xira for everything else. on sm w 2 ult rots u just need lynx gloves and go full ai

and cata

[native aurora]

Is so versatile

[outer ermine]

oh wait i forgor u do need the sm uge

[native aurora]

[native aurora]

uge is?

[outer ermine]

ult gain eff

[native aurora]

o

sure

sm is for an estella dps?

[outer ermine]

stagger, mostly for umbral but whether u need it depends on ur rot/boss

mastery is just cs ult m1 for phy sus and stagger respectively, doubt you'd need m3 cs unless speedkill

oh and alesh cs m3
bs+ult m1 is min investment

holy fuck i forgot tacticals work ow i just wasted 4 pudding and stew

[native aurora]

Main estella sounds difficult

Do you do your own ingame test? or use any type of damage calculator?

[chilly bolt]

Hifumi is probably the only shatter player here

[native aurora]

I want to follow hes steps

[outer ermine]

i only calc and test for my own rots

[native aurora]

You're the goat of shatter

[outer ermine]

tide group works on shatter for casual iirc

lemme finish meat farming and ill link em

[native aurora]

go for it

[daring dove]

Think it's worth going for the last two off-piece artifice upgrades?

I can't imagine them adding more than 2-3 ATK each upgrade so not sure it's worth 40 upto 40 artifice materials.

[drifting quest]

you're already what 34 artifices ahead of what you need

it's never going to matter

[daring dove]

I usually leave the sub-stat on all operator off-pieces at rank 2. The first two upgrades are usually cheap enough to be worth it though.

Would be nice to finish an operator or two outslde of Leavatain but to be honest with the frequence of better gear being released.

It's likely not the smart play anyway.

[loud cedar]

Any M3 skills absolutely necessary on Fangyi?

[outer ermine]

i wanna see u suffer go for it

[daring dove]

[sterile moat]

@outer ermine look at this shit

[drifting quest]

not a single mastery in the game is absolutely necessary

[sterile moat]

need to crit fish so hard to kill in time...

[daring dove]

He got you

[sterile moat]

been malding for awhile but i cant get the dps

[modern linden]

oh lifeng avatar

[sterile moat]

anyone in cn crazy enough to do world first solo 3-1 yet

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1fCQYBXEKL
a 'casual' rot for shatter, if ur really gonna play rosshatter u can learn this rot for now, once u know how shatter actually works then u can play around the sequence more freely

we dont actually play like this but its a start

[daring dove]

You got 43 days before they release any new meaningfull content just lock-in.

[sterile moat]

i think i am doing something wrong

just 1 bs at start?

since it starts expiring

[outer ermine]

can u immune the bind

[sterile moat]

no

it always latches

[outer ermine]

shit talent

[sterile moat]

i had a weird glitch where i tele unbinded

then it rebind again

so its a constant latch

and game will keep checking

ngl unless i use a p5 weap account

unlikely for me to get it

[drifting quest]

there was a bug

idk if it got patched

that let you ignore it

[outer ermine]

dam u got bodied at the end

[sterile moat]

the other strat

[outer ermine]

can tt bs ignore it actually

[sterile moat]

is to kill the small fries

then yolo the 17% chance

a second time

[sterile moat]

tt cant get past first bind

only zfy can solo

[outer ermine]

grouping can prob be better dont lock its so shit

[daring dove]

Btw how does everything feel about the new Combo CD set on Tangtang for me it seems a bit pointless with P1?

[sterile moat]

its the green main mob that does the chain

so if you can kill it you dont get 1 shotted

[daring dove]

I can't imagine a world in which combo skill CD is a problem over SP with a 10 second CD?

[sterile moat]

thats why i wanna lock to kill it asap

[sterile moat]

pointless for rossi comp

[outer ermine]

can u pull it on the middle, i know nothing on what mobs can do

[sterile moat]

nah the green shit likes to tele around

[daring dove]

Yeah it seems like one of those sets that would be great for P0 players giving a much similar experience to P1 Tangtang. But excessive for P1+ players as going from a 10 second combo skill to an 8.5 one for the loss of 15% ATK aint it.

[sterile moat]

esp if you are p3

you lose so much dps

[native aurora]

Thx thx

[sterile moat]

fuckkkk i got that shit to 5% hp

i would have gotten the clear if i had p5 weap...

[outer ermine]

its so fucking sad i entered w only 3 stew left

ill grind on pc this weekend ig

u not p5ing zfy sig?

[sterile moat]

was gonna wait till after the jo banner

[outer ermine]

ah

[sterile moat]

my world first 3-1 solo...

[outer ermine]

omg i got thru it only need stew now

i can skip farming roccs

[marsh grove]

Fangyi without ult gain really wokrs? how long she is charing her ult?

[sterile moat]

[outer ermine]

u mf

how much lol

[sterile moat]

buying out arsenal pack was enough

28 pulls to 6 weap

[outer ermine]

oh damn pretty good actually

[sterile moat]

yea

[outer ermine]

meant to be

[ivory widget]

P5 character pays for most of it, it's pretty decent

[sterile moat]

not even close

[bronze plume]

no it doesnt lmao

[ivory widget]

Depends on your rng, but it's cheaper than most games I've whaled in

[sterile moat]

p5 chara gets u like p2 at best usually

[ivory widget]

If you get on the luckier side true, but if you're unlucky on character pulls it offsets how much you need to dump on weapons

[bronze plume]

thats not on the lucky side

its on average

[ivory widget]

730 pulls on Rossi paid for P5 and 1 extra lupis for me, as well as Tangtang sig

$1200 usd despite getting screwed on characters isn't bad compared to what I've experienced elsewhere

[bronze plume]

just because its slightly better then the usual dogshit gacha

doesnt make it good

but gachas going to gacha

[sterile moat]

@outer ermine @daring dove CLEARED

[ivory widget]

$800 cheaper than other games is more than slightly better imo, but it's subjective I guess

[outer ermine]

already wtf

[ivory widget]

I'm not defending the gacha if that's what you think tho lol

[sterile moat]

power of p5...

[outer ermine]

go beat ovos solo rhod next

[sterile moat]

did i actually get the world first solo on 3-1 tho

[bronze plume]

wtf does 3-1 and 3-3 shit even mean

is it some irrelevant speedrunner thing

[outer ermine]

its umbral stages smh its mot even speedrun related

whats the name for that stage

[bronze plume]

oh the umbrals

[outer ermine]

fuck i just logged out

[sterile moat]

solo zfy

[bronze plume]

i would be very slightly impressive

if it wasnt p5p5

[sterile moat]

bro do you know how screwed up the dps check is

if you fail it you are betting on a 10% dodge chance

its not even possible without p4 at minimum

[bronze plume]

do you want me to be honest

[daring dove]

Congrats

[sterile moat]

only had to pull p5 weap for it

thanks

[daring dove]

[sterile moat]

and they have undodgeable attacks during chain, so its like you have at best 1min 30s to clear it

with supreme rng going your way

[marsh grove]

how much ult gain aantal needs?

do i need to artifice xiranite gear for him?

or leave at 82%

[daring dove]

That's a team dependant quesstion, so maybe add that as well. Not that I can personally give you the answer but just to head up someone else pointing it out.

[outer ermine]

116, laev

[sterile moat]

oh wut, someone cleared it solo with laev?

[outer ermine]

theres a few but 116s is prob the fastest rn?

[sterile moat]

57s clear

based on in game timer

[outer ermine]

my bro was sweating w 125hp

[sterile moat]

whats the vid

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1QdXxBsE7h

[sterile moat]

oh wut

did he build hp laev

[outer ermine]

oh wait theres a 106

[sterile moat]

oh, he used the protection talent from laev wtf

tfw i didnt know about that talent existing

[outer ermine]

[pure spoke]

@unborn panther

https://youtu.be/Z9XEgJ3JWeo?si=hnpwvbP5g4MtJVf8

down to 2:32

[unborn panther]

👀

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-dance-gif-2998593380856704540

[drifting quest]

whats trim req again?

2m?

[pure spoke]

3:20

[drifting quest]

damn you get forever

[pure spoke]

solo is rlly hard

its just an optimzed run thats why

[drifting quest]

im not sure 150/200s solo is an indication of difficulty

[pure spoke]

i was struggling at around 3:40 for a while

[drifting quest]

nothing looked especially difficult to pull off at a glance

[pure spoke]

ye thats what most ppl think xD-. its very technical what you can do in the nefarith run

especially with the new dive attack

[trail flume]

Qingbo on Gilberta so her CS cooldown matches Zhang and Perlica. Is that the play or is Xiranite/Swordmancer still more value

[drifting quest]

doesnt really matter

[pure spoke]

just do 1 run to see. its interesting

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357611796682768385/1496226950694437054/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[sterile moat]

https://youtu.be/Ac262CT_22U

[drifting quest]

i need to build my gm first

[pure spoke]

max essence grand vision does the same dmg

in case u have it

well rlly close to max gm

[drifting quest]

im not sure i believe that but hey

[outer ermine]

reviving astral siu acc

[sterile moat]

technically AK content]

LOL

[outer ermine]

holy grouping

[sterile moat]

yea about as good as it can get tbh

[outer ermine]

yt said ur playing warframe

[sterile moat]

bruh

[outer ermine]

u can prob try for the rho solo btw its 23.8 iirc

[ivory gale]

did you break the chains here using Fangyi talent?

[dry kindle]

Graphics design is my passion ahh thumbnail

[pure spoke]

i did a lot of runs and GM kills nefarith around 1.07-1.15 min and grand vision 1.07-1.20 first phase

[sterile moat]

yea

[pure spoke]

with jakubs tho

[sterile moat]

the fact that you can move while casting is so op as zfy

[ivory gale]

since we're on the topic of solo

https://youtu.be/rc6iv1rwgPU?si=uCnKI5j8ap-zRfcx

I still need to shave like 10s

[pure spoke]

damn so close

do you think u can do that yori?

[ivory gale]

Would've trimmed it already if they didn't patch it

[pure spoke]

im recording Grand vision weapon on chen vs nef rn xD

[ivory gale]

the chances are abyssmal

[pure spoke]

damn. my condolences

i dont think i can trim it solo with ember

skill issue

[ivory gale]

is there a way to rollback a patch

[pure spoke]

rip

[gritty briar]

the phase 2 knockbacks from just being near the boss must be so annoying

[pure spoke]

exremely. xD sometimes i cant even do the dive attack because im stuckinside his body

[cold bane]

stanza in shop today

[pure spoke]

i noticed u animation cancel 2nd attack too 😮 is that better?

i ve been only canceling 3rd

0:20 looks so funny xD

bouncing

[outer ermine]

solo mains

[pure spoke]

yori is insane. my ember runs were around 5+ minutes and he does 3 32

[outer ermine]

cant u just iframe 3rd wave btw, and eat stew

for stagger later on

[ivory gale]

It's faster yes and the routing is super tight so It's only possible like this

[pure spoke]

i also did tang tang solo btw xD was easier than chen. but i had to slap the Slab on tangtang to squeeze out more dmg with ginseng

[ivory gale]

You mean her phase 1 wave attack? Yea I can but I like to avoid it since the slowdown also adds to the timer

[pure spoke]

just an idea, because sometimes i do it with chen too. idk if its better.
you know if nefarith slows down the time and teleports in front of you? i usually just do the dive attack before she teleports so i can attack her. you are doing it too, but do you think you could use your BS before she teleports to you so u can get hit? or maybe u alrdy did that first because using the dive attack is less intuitive

[outer ermine]

ye

[pure spoke]

because of exemplar buff and your gearset buff

[pure spoke]

lmao ignoring

[ivory gale]

She has to be in range of Ember BS BEFORE activation

[pure spoke]

oh nvm

oooof

@outer ermine

it didnt work. xD was i too early or too late?

[outer ermine]

mkv

[pure spoke]

oof

eeh how do i change file x D

obs be like

[ivory gale]

Not a bad idea

[outer ermine]

u can remux reocrding iirc

im not in front of pc gl

[pure spoke]

ember build different

[outer ermine]

too early, wave needs to pass thru u since dmg is late

[pure spoke]

ah

[outer ermine]

was trying to iframe swap that yesterday

oh wait i cant even test it my chen is lv20 ill straight up die

[pure spoke]

lmao

now too late

[outer ermine]

i got kbed and took no dmg

[pure spoke]

i get hit it gets interupted, but chens ult sound still plays

xD

[outer ermine]

gl u 2 im sleeping

[pure spoke]

ayo

xD

xD

[outer ermine]

@frigid vector ^

[pure spoke]

@drifting quest nvm i take it back GM isnt the same level as Grand vision.
Grand vision is literally better than GM max pot for nefarith fight

its because you cant utilize GM that well vs nefarith

and GV is just a stat stick

so sundering steel and GV are better

[drifting quest]

are you p5 GV or something

[pure spoke]

p1

oh ye right i dont have p0

[outer ermine]

whel

[sterile moat]

hmm is oblivion even worth picking up 1 copy of

[drifting quest]

54 AI ~20% atk vs ~20% cr ~30-90% ult damage is like

[frigid vector]

did

[drifting quest]

not really mathing out in any way I can follow

[frigid vector]

the ult cutscene

end up causing the barrier to skip

that's pretty nuts

[pure spoke]

i mean i can send you the runs if you want.

[edgy crater]

ulti for anti slam shit?

[frigid vector]

dang so it works with controlled and non controlled

that's neat

[drifting quest]

its all going to be within the realm of variance anyway due to small cr

i dont care that much

i just cant imagine it actually doing better unless the AI is somehow staggering perfectly

[outer ermine]

yea slam too slow

[pure spoke]

im using this gear btw

not swordmancer

[edgy crater]

well i use it too on my pysical

pog always got thrown by fatso slam

[outer ermine]

[outer ermine]

i was too lazy to swap moment and just tried

ended up working

i love accidents

[edgy crater]

remember when u try connect fs while fatso mid flight? u can ulti too after fs

[outer ermine]

yea dodge swap after fs is the hardest one to do there

[edgy crater]

not gonna do dat, fs into ulti better

[dry kindle]

Where sub 30

[outer ermine]

the current holder is grinding for it rn

[sterile moat]

Are you part of the record grind squad

[outer ermine]

i got invited but i dont have qq so its just dms but im only in touch w shatter ppl now

[sterile moat]

[outer ermine]

im too burnt out from 14 rhod

i dont wanna see lrs face for a while

theyre trying to get the crit bug

[dry kindle]

Smh

[outer ermine]

gib qq u get tt

🤝

[dry kindle]

My qq never even works

[outer ermine]

smh

[pure spoke]

https://youtu.be/o_qR0Veiz_s?si=b4KqfvlJ36taJbWt

bruh

she is so braindead

[halcyon zenith]

for fangyi team, is there much of a reason to go for UGE on Perlica? she wont rly do much dmg so wouldnt more Arts Intensity make sense? or am I missing sth?

[dry kindle]

Me when everyone fucks up the loop

[pure spoke]

lol

[dry kindle]

I'm going to jump out a window if I see one more p1 cold start

[pure spoke]

i trimmed marble with fangyi. doesnt feel satisfying at all

[drifting quest]

AI is nearly useless because you consume the elec
UGE has the benefit of marginal stagger gains over time, depending on routing can be more damage
Alternative is pulser gloves for damage, or equiv damage off piece

[halcyon zenith]

hmm, ill consider switching once im done with artificing, for now I was using her on ice team foremost so alrdy have an AI set, ig neither doesnt rly matter since her dmg input wont be all that much

[bronze plume]

i wonder if cc will be added to this as the last one

[dry kindle]

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/valentino-rossi-rossi-vr46-thumbs-up-gif-19093973

[dry kindle]

@frigid vector what's fastest zfy p0 cold start

With uge kit

[main nova]

ooo clash of Lung vs Wyrm

if only Chen could transform

[pure spoke]

Fangyi is a kirin tho

[main nova]

you are right

i forgot kirin trait

[pure spoke]

I assumed she was a lung too tho

[main nova]

a thunder dragon bloodline

[pure spoke]

And chen can solo trim nefarith too btw

Chen too strong

[main nova]

but cant transform

Chen need to know her roots

[pure spoke]

Only into a silly goober

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357611796682768385/1496226950694437054/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[dry kindle]

Goofy ass shatter can trim

Truly fraud boss

[pure spoke]

When chen solo ardashir

[main nova]

https://tenor.com/view/дракончик-гиф-gif-5638464075920574165

chen when transform

[pure spoke]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/chen-chen-qianyu-chen-qianyu-gif-chen-gif-arknights-chen-gif-9023266918433407038

[main nova]

tho i dont mind if we got many version of Chen in future tho, I can make team full of Chen

this silly goober team

for now I only got 2 sill goober, tang2 and chen

[drifting quest]

good argument for rossi as a 3rd

bit of a stretch to fill it out but doable with like yvonne or akekuri

[tulip plinth]

umm can someone explain what are these?
is it different to highjump and break dive?

[outer ermine]

no, u can ignore it if u arent pushing for time

[tulip plinth]

like yeah, whats the differences? XD what time? in second?

[chilly bolt]

bypass the wave with ult iframe

[tough nest]

how are these numbers for endmin? not sure how accurate it is

[drifting quest]

Depends on assumptions

Cant comment off just a list

[drifting quest]

Pulser gloves o/e for damage
Seal o/e for uge

Doesnt matter much

[mellow hedge]

uge?

[tough nest]

I think it might be true or at least closer with built phys team

[drifting quest]

Ult gain efficiency

[drifting quest]

Its not universally true, at the least

Cannot comment on their assumptions

[atomic kraken]

chat is it worth getting p2 fangyi or should i stay at p1 and get her weapon instead?

[sterile moat]

Get her sig if you havent yet

[atomic kraken]

oki

[sterile moat]

Dupes of her weap seems to be less effective though

[outer ermine]

the fuckin crit bug interaction is driving ppl nuts

theres 2 32s nef clear so it doesnt change the rec

[sterile moat]

Whats the bug

[main nova]

sig first

then p1

if you want following potential is fine too

[atomic kraken]

i alraedy have p1 xd

[main nova]

it make her sp more efficient and building her more flexible

[atomic kraken]

gacha in this game kinda weird

[main nova]

we just lacking those crazy sp regen character

[atomic kraken]

arc light is not enough ?

[main nova]

nope

tho if you can kill enemy before you worry about those sp, then its fine

[sterile moat]

Her p2 and p3 isnt that effective on its own, p3 might even cause some rotation issues due to sp refund without p4

[atomic kraken]

i want to get her weapon but should i get the weapon gacha currency from charcater or just straight buy the weapon from oriberyl

[sterile moat]

P4 is giga busted as a potential howevrr

[dry kindle]

Fund mine

[main nova]

look at these rich man

his zfy is sp plus with gilberta

[outer ermine]

full crit sequence, overlap display; not showing crit but dmg is crit

but theres something else causing the abnormal dmg fluctuation

[outer ermine]

^he was fishing for it earlier to explain but couldnt get it so just deleted the vid for now

wtf is this account link

[outer ermine]

diff is in break lag

zfy has a long ass break lag, u can bypass w ult but the timing isnt same as normal dive ult where its insta if u just hold

peak time w bypass is just .5~ slower than iframing w ult and breaking normally

[sterile moat]

oh hmm

so ulting and rushing is slower due to not iframing the wave?

[outer ermine]

a really bad zfy dive into ult vs iframe is almost 2s but normally 1

[sterile moat]

[tulip plinth]

UHhh

[outer ermine]

ideally ur fishing for

[tulip plinth]

does the iframe tight or easy enough? does everyone has same iframe?

[sterile moat]

oh the 0.1s break

you get additional dmg from it?

[outer ermine]

i havent grinded enuf to tell, but the zfy jump break is def hard af to get for me

[willow blade]

OnFG so I was comparing how zfy felt shit without her p1 but then when I finally decided to pull for her(so I don’t die of boredom) I first lose to p1 lr(good thing as I built her) then at 12pity to *6 and 20pity to 120 I hit a red lever and was like pls lose, I then see 2 red beams and won 2 zfys

[sterile moat]

posting pull screen here

[tulip plinth]

bro just want a pat or praise

🙏

[outer ermine]

from break? no idea, u get the stagger eitherway if u need it

[willow blade]

Ya ik p0 clears fine it just that without p1 0ult is a bit of a pain

[outer ermine]

i dont have a bad dive recorded smh

[sterile moat]

let me give it a try

[dry kindle]

Aight death

[willow blade]

If you want to talk lucky I lost 2 50/50 to Yvonnep0 and Gilp0 when pulling for tt

[sterile moat]

"losing to gilb" thats called winning

[willow blade]

That is the point

[outer ermine]

winning to gil

[sterile moat]

man JO banner better give me arsenal packs again

[outer ermine]

lemme pull for u, ur abt to pity everytime, free arsenal

[sterile moat]

oh wut, i can see the break delay now

[outer ermine]

need to grind more holo

i wanted to showcase the instabreak on a run but iframe is gonna be funnier

most zfy dive runs rn they just sit there waiting to ult

@edgy crater oh ye theres a 60s mono phy run, go beat it

[bronze plume]

shoulda saved

and or spent money

and or gotten lucky

[dry kindle]

Whel

[sterile moat]

cant they just use some other op then ult + switch to zfy instantly

or does the delay even apply then

[gritty olive]

0+0 gibby yes or no

[outer ermine]

oh i meant the button

[dry kindle]

Did a 10 pill out of spite

Got 9p1y

[outer ermine]

i havent tried co ult zfy dive tho, maybe makes a diff from offfield? copr

[bronze plume]

wtf is a 9p1y

[dry kindle]

9 purple 1 yellow

[outer ermine]

L

[dry kindle]

Your fault

My pity is fucked for next banner anyway

[bronze plume]

so

the normal?

[outer ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891230348950765598/1382350867419762819/GtGvS6GXwAAAIO2.gif

[dry kindle]

Whel

[bronze plume]

L

[dry kindle]

64 pity

I hit 70 on next banner I die

Time to pull out the jp (not real)

[willow blade]

Stanza

[outer ermine]

this idk tbh, some ults last longer than other so it can affect timing

[willow blade]

Question about zfy p1 does it bypass the 3sword cap meaning you get 4 swords if elect teir2

[outer ermine]

when i tried ember she needed to pass the wave, on alesh he could do it earlier

[dry kindle]

Yes

[outer ermine]

maybe its generous idk

i got what i want already so gl on that if theres other ops u want to do it w

deisen has the timing for tt swap

is that ithrene btw

[willow blade]

Do we know the exact %buff zfy gets from p1 with and without ult start?

[dry kindle]

Like 10% dps and can cheat cold start

[willow blade]

How much buff from the p5?

[dry kindle]

Res ignore soooooooo

[bronze plume]

p5 is about a 45% increase from p0