theorycrafting

[civic wolf]

so pulling for Fangyi worth it for antal then? 😭

[torn pilot]

and u can mark my words on it, some day, there will be a super massive electro nuke that requires antal + gilberta in the team to work

[drifting quest]

the agenda must be maintained or something

[torn pilot]

i imagine a perfect world where they release another perlica

[dry kindle]

Fund my tt

[torn pilot]

except this perlica generates sp too

[tough roost]

Before that happens we will get a proper electro xaihi

Rendering gil and antal obsolete

[torn pilot]

tbh i would say that antal is a "propper" electro xaihi

[civic wolf]

do you always control as Fangyi on fangyi comp?

[torn pilot]

its just that the current main dps for electro dont need those same qualities

[tough roost]

He sucks

[sterile moat]

First time i heard of antal sucking

[torn pilot]

yeah antal definitely doesnt suck

just kinda homeless atm

[sterile moat]

Sometimes i control gilberta instead

[drifting quest]

all vibes all agenda no proof

the tc special

[civic wolf]

so ANtal Gilberta?

[warped sorrel]

number crunching will be back in avenger doomsday

[sterile moat]

Number crunching for a back loaded dps comp

[civic wolf]

also isn't the problem with Antal on Lae is that Lae is mobbing centric so Ake > Antal?

[tough roost]

He is only used in the speedrun comp where you use antal gil ardel

[sterile moat]

No idea tbh, i am not a good source for proper zfy comps

[torn pilot]

i suppose the proof is just by reading his buff/debuff numbers and comparing them to other options
-10% heat and electro sus
-20% electro and heat amp
-also applies an infliction every 25s
-can hold deto

[civic wolf]

ok so Fangyi is the most relevant ANtal has been so far then?

[torn pilot]

these are objectively good numbers, comparatively

[drifting quest]

ok what about sp
what about uptime
what about routing
what about aoe
what about alignment
what about a good 15+ other factors

[torn pilot]

theres just currently not much room for him on teams

[torn pilot]

yeah exactly

[tough roost]

Zfy is the only comp where antal became a mainstay

[torn pilot]

homeless

[icy canyon]

what about the content to use all these minmax on ..

[drifting quest]

etchspace rhodagn

[sterile moat]

We dont talk about that here

[tough roost]

Antal main issue is always his long combo cooldown dragging him back from fitting into a multi cycle rotation. Idk how tf zfy managed to make him work

[sturdy hill]

a joke

[drifting quest]

easier than the recrisis rhodagn

[warped sorrel]

minmaxing will be back in 10

[drifting quest]

but a much cooler fight

[sturdy hill]

why tf do i have to stab bro for every time i enter area 6

[sterile moat]

Just purely min maxing it for the game of it

[torn pilot]

and also that hes explicitly single target

most teams in the game are somewhat sp hungry too

[tough roost]

All bosses are st. Multi target scenarios have enemies dying to the slightest touch

So i dont mind that part

[torn pilot]

i would say physical is probably leading the game with sp efficiency

[sterile moat]

Meanwhile umbral 1-3

[tough roost]

Avy comp overflowing with sp

[torn pilot]

i could be wrong tho

[dry kindle]

Same thing

[sturdy hill]

fangyi be lacking some sp

[tough roost]

Those two isnt that tanky. They both die in 2 lae ultbs

[warped sorrel]

2 vanguard feel so good for me

[torn pilot]

now imagine we have 1 good vanguard

electro pog

[sturdy hill]

fangyi ult makes me go ungabunga

[torn pilot]

honestly ive come to realise that none of fangyis teammates are particularly high quality units, comparatively

[tough roost]

Uge buffer support would be interesting

[sterile moat]

More like you need a pog that can generate free sp mid rotation

[warped sorrel]

i hope not
i hate pulling support

[dry kindle]

Can someone math this vs slab I'm lazy

[tough roost]

Perlica literally the enabler of electro comps. Arclight is shit yeah. Gil is just free 40% suscep

[torn pilot]

even perlica doesnt read like anything crazy

shes the definition of bare minimum that slots well

her kit works pretty efficiently, and currently, slots into teams because its really all we got

also my perlica still hits like a wet noodle

[warped sorrel]

i hate him

[torn pilot]

[tough roost]

I mean... if one day we get an electric inflictor that does free electrification and debuffs that also deals a lot of damage, then sure

[sterile moat]

Still wont change that she will be slotted until we get free electrification on cs again

[civic wolf]

how needed/important is tangtang's M3 CD reduction of combo skill?

[torn pilot]

yeah true, and even then, its possible we end up slotting both

[civic wolf]

like when you guys TC do you assume max CD reduction all the time?

[torn pilot]

its not needed but it is a worthwhile investment

[sterile moat]

Usually you tc best case?

Since theres leeway due to sp management anyway

[torn pilot]

the second you save does improve the total damage of your runs especially paired with p1 and/or qingbo set

[civic wolf]

whats the M3 prio for Tangtang rossi anyway

[torn pilot]

more combo skills = more beyblades = let it rip

[tough roost]

Ult > combo > bs i think?

[civic wolf]

is Qingbo set replacing bonekrusha or nah? already near max artificed the damn thing...

[sterile moat]

Rossi ult then cs
Tangtang bs then cs

[tough roost]

[torn pilot]

people are saying its better, yeah - i could see why just guestimating the math, but i havent done math myself and i dont think there are any sources yet

[civic wolf]

...

what do i do with the bonekrusha now

[tough roost]

Give it to avy

[sterile moat]

Just use it still?

[dry kindle]

QB cdr is nice

[torn pilot]

tangtang you should max bs -> cs /optional ult
rossi ult -> idfk

[dry kindle]

Idk damage

[torn pilot]

delete it

[sterile moat]

Arguably basic atk > ult since its largest dmg share in a rossi comp over 1 full rota

[torn pilot]

wdym damage share

im thinking of +12 my tangtang, shes currently +9 and i havent done her BAS

who do you even control on arts rossi team

[sterile moat]

Tangtang is controlled op in rossi so she is played like main dps as well

[torn pilot]

ohh nice

that team is calling to me

i think i will max out fangyi and then build that team

[sterile moat]

So you tend to gain more on basic atk on 0 ult runs

Ult runs of course ult tt is better

[dry kindle]

Hg give tt rerun in 1.2 I beg

[torn pilot]

tt is currently my favorite unit in endfield

so i think is worth it

[sterile moat]

tt also cant really ult properly in rossi comp

[torn pilot]

why not

[sterile moat]

Not worth misaligning your Rossi sig buff for tt

Thats a shit ton of dps loss

[torn pilot]

whats her sig do again

also, whats even the reason to play rossi team at all? i got p1 while pulling zhuang kek

like, comparatively speaking, whats rossi team do better than others

[dry kindle]

Stupid number

[torn pilot]

is really that good?

[civic wolf]

versatility

[torn pilot]

biggest guess i had was just QoL team

[sterile moat]

Look at the numbers

[civic wolf]

you can make a lot of team comps with her

though i find Rossi Tangtang to be the most fun

[dry kindle]

🗿

[sterile moat]

(16 x 2.8%) + 67.2%

[civic wolf]

cuz the DPS is mostly comping from Tangtang BS rather than ults

[torn pilot]

gyat that weapon is a whale weapon

insane p5

[sterile moat]

do you think its worth dropping this buff just to ult on tt

Aint no way

[torn pilot]

why is the buff dropped tho

am i misreading smth

u have 20 seconds of that buff

[sterile moat]

All stacks removed after that

You cant fit the whole of rossi ult if you delay just for tt

[civic wolf]

but yeah lmk if Antal is the best in Fangyi or smth i wanna stop ruminating on this

[torn pilot]

ohhh ic now

p1 rossi is pretty good too huh?

i read it and it seems nice

[sterile moat]

Its ok

[torn pilot]

just damage boost

[sterile moat]

P2 is nicer

After that its p5

[torn pilot]

ughh theres so many characters i want to build

now that my electro team is level 80 i might put them on the backburner for a while till 1.3 to decide on who i wanna hyperinvest in

and take this time to finish maxing my physical team and rossi

[sterile moat]

Also you miss perlica electrification timing too

So you missing 2 massive buff just for tt ult

[dry kindle]

It happened

[torn pilot]

send link

wth

[sterile moat]

He has p10 rossi bro

Its a bait

And p2 gil

[dry kindle]

Go my big number dps

[torn pilot]

this is the team right?

[wintry shale]

what's fangyi's bis team?

[dry kindle]

Who needs extended rot when you have zfy rossi gilb hot start

[sterile moat]

Yea, but antal could be better if its a single hp phase boss likr rhod where you dont need tt frontload dps

[torn pilot]

bruh the update reset my item hotbar

[outer ermine]

god i woke up

and theres a 14 zfy rhod

[torn pilot]

okay gotchu

good thing i leveled him up to 80 for electro team

so i can try him out

who do you control on that team tho

just rossi?

[sterile moat]

I am waiting to see the true whale zfy neph run where people instant ult to spam dodge to boss saving like 10s

[dry kindle]

💀

[outer ermine]

this run was actually nice tho

[civic wolf]

so is Antal best/good in Fangyi or nah adlkfjalf

[drifting quest]

you can keep asking but the answer wont change

[civic wolf]

true

[dry kindle]

Gib link

[plush linden]

Is there a video of Iana's physical comp breakdown in action? I don't really understand if/when I am changing controlled characters or what is supposed to be going on

[sterile moat]

The basic idea is you change ops when the op you are controlling needs to use a skill soon

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV1dMdxBME7v
official timer is a fraud but thats a 14

[torn pilot]

[sterile moat]

Wtf endmin

[dry kindle]

Fym endmin

[drifting quest]

atp its going to be less effort to actually write a replacement for iana doc

[torn pilot]

yes antal is good in fangyi team

[drifting quest]

than answer the same question on repeat

[torn pilot]

antal is not significantly better or worse than gilberta or ake/alesh

[sterile moat]

Repute endmin lmao

[dry kindle]

Always has been

[drifting quest]

true enough

prydwen has a fangyi writeup anyway

so no point

[torn pilot]

wait this is big brain

[drifting quest]

should just start linking it

[torn pilot]

+15% attack buff

😂

what is prydwen

[civic wolf]

just wanna make sure i didn't miss anything but is there like, a reason i end up not using Antal on Lava comp?

[drifting quest]

because you dont want to

[torn pilot]

this actually cooks so hard

[drifting quest]

or because otheru nits do the job better

[torn pilot]

i love this and i have to try it

[drifting quest]

or because content is not favoured for antal

[civic wolf]

like i had the feeling Antal isn't as great than going ake wulf ardelia

but i forgot what it is

is it because he's single target geared

while Lava is crowd control centric

[torn pilot]

i wanna know if anybody else tested the endmin soup

[drifting quest]

are you a whale speedrunning rhodagn exactly?

[sturdy hill]

🐳

[torn pilot]

whats the weapon even doing for him there

did he even use endmin battle skill?

[drifting quest]

yes

you can watch the vuln be consumed

[civic wolf]

nah, just general casual use

[drifting quest]

i was referring to the endmin stuff

[outer ermine]

im not responsible gl

[torn pilot]

no, but it still seems kinda big brain tho
15% attack buff + repute buff + damage for only 50sp is kinda nice

[drifting quest]

'for only'

while pretending the damage will be good

or that the buffs are good uptime/worth it

[torn pilot]

20s of uptime is a lot

to be fair

idk about the rotation outside of nuking tho

[drifting quest]

its less than a thermite buff anyway

for repute

at p0

[torn pilot]

yeah true

[drifting quest]

add on that you return sp

not generate it

[torn pilot]

why does that matter

[drifting quest]

returned sp does not generate energy, so you have to route around it potentially

[torn pilot]

oh gotchu

[drifting quest]

overall its a privelege of p5 repute p5p5 fangyi speedrunning only

[torn pilot]

the upside of not running any vanguards and having all p5; more damage

[outer ermine]

shes basically just there to be a mini tc

[sterile moat]

hmm is zfy sig weap that low in % gain at p5

[outer ermine]

sadly that didnt work w rossi, not broken enuf

[dry kindle]

🗿

[torn pilot]

btw i saw some people trying fangyi rossi

is there any sauce behind that or just fun team

[outer ermine]

thats holo

[dry kindle]

P5 go brrr

[sterile moat]

whale only comp for it to make use of both ops efficiently

[drifting quest]

Whale speedrun tech p2

[sterile moat]

theoretically has even higher burst potential

[torn pilot]

what makes it whale only comp

[drifting quest]

Wait until you hear about tangtang fangyi

[torn pilot]

iim still interested

[sterile moat]

has to do with syncing to rossi buffs again, without the culmination into p4, you dont ult fast enough for 0 ult starts

ult start it works as a speed run tech due to circumventing a lot of the issues when starting up with ult

[sturdy hill]

whales be whaling

[ruby compass]

TIL fangyi doesnt have to be the controlled operator during ulti
is there a big damage difference between controlled and uncontrolled during her ulti?

[torn pilot]

seems like the main thing about these "whale techs" is just that they dont have a vanguard on the team and go all in on 1 rotation

[torn pilot]

oh gotcha

[sterile moat]

tldr whales dont need vanguards to have efficient rotation flows

[torn pilot]

naturally

.paypal

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-me-paypal-paypal-me-30k-perlica-arknights-gif-3472834387034500009

[torn pilot]

btw we can surely speculate that the next bp weapon will be a polearm for lifeng

manifest with me guys

i rlly dont wanna use valiant

i was able to get p1 lifeng recently too

i want him to shine bright

💎

[sterile moat]

might need a p5 for that

[molten star]

Lynx slab or ult gain eff for fangyi?

[sterile moat]

starting with ult vs not

[dry kindle]

Math uge bonekrusher chest for me I'm lazy

[sterile moat]

cant math it
not a calc guy

[molten star]

So anything else vs umbral?

[sterile moat]

thats it generally

just use uge against umbral

but since theres 10 min and if you dont care to clear faster, lynx still works for everything

[sturdy hill]

try to math it

[sterile moat]

like ~3% loss over uge kit?

[dry kindle]

Seriously

Bruh

This is why we can't have nice things

[sterile moat]

thats that number supposed to be

[dry kindle]

Second zfy ult in 300sp

[civic wolf]

so whats the deal with people running Rossi in Fangyi

[dry kindle]

Kit is 32 chest is 16

[dry kindle]

P5 go brr

[civic wolf]

huh

my friend also said

Tangtang???

is relevant in Fangyi

what

[sterile moat]

Scroll up and read

[drifting quest]

im gonna have a stroke

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-talking-to-wall-talking-to-a-brick-wall-talking-to-yourself-spouting-nonsense-gif-9223278464067017147

[sterile moat]

Its either speed run tech during ult start or whale tech during non ult

[outer ermine]

oh i think i can replicate breaking game timer now

-1:-1 start

[dry kindle]

[torn pilot]

its kinda weird how fangyi is simultaneously lacking good supports but also one of the strongest operators in endfield

[shrewd root]

i mean, she is the games first Main Push unit

[sterile moat]

the main op in a chinese region

it will be weirder if she wasnt strong

[drifting berry]

We still remember the Zhongli incident

Never make the chinese region main push weak

[shrewd root]

oh btw as iana done their magic with ZF yet or nah

[sour gazelle]

balanced by the speed of getting first ult

[shrewd root]

3000% ult generation time

[sterile moat]

they more or less quit so dont expect anything much

[sour gazelle]

many cn ppl are complaining she's weak rn

[shrewd root]

oh thats a shame, do we have a new tcer to look at sheets for or nah

[sour gazelle]

tho not really enough to become anything

[drifting berry]

they are...

[shrewd root]

i mean, fully f2p team rn kek

[icy remnant]

So Laev syndrome

[drifting berry]

Can't even use the word I want to use

Rather just build full damage and save the ult to actually never use it.

Change slab for uge? nah

[shrewd root]

?^

[drifting berry]

Oh nah, that sheet will be left like that most likely

You will have to look for other tc sources

[shrewd root]

any other sheeters we know of that i can look for?

[drifting berry]

Guobafield and Maygi are good but they haven't made any videos yet.

Prydwen in the other hand is fast but can be unreliable some times

[shrewd root]

hmmm

[icy remnant]

I’m expecting Maygi to jump ship to NTE anyways

Won’t be surprised if NTE gets more mainstream

[shrewd root]

cant really blame her too much tbh, the game is kinda dry rn and it alr wasnt mainstream

[drifting berry]

Yeah endfield is more like a side game once you caught up

[icy remnant]

I don’t really think she did that many videos for Endfield so far anyways

[shrewd root]

yeah i think i saw maybe 2 vids she did on it

[dry kindle]

Inb4 nte folds

[shrewd root]

tbh i find it kinda hard to get hyped for NTE

nothing about it screams to me

[icy remnant]

I don’t know yet what I’m supposed to be hyped about NTE for aside from the fact it has a gacha and people love gambling

[shrewd root]

ikr? i saw the open worlds which looked nice

but everything seemed sorta... stale to me?

if that makes sense

idk

[icy remnant]

Releasing a gacha to be a gacha just sounds like one casino in a field of casinos

[sterile moat]

does it have water physics, if not meh

[shrewd root]

immaculate criteria my good sir

[lilac oracle]

it does

[shrewd root]

sexy name ya got there brosef

[forest lily]

Made a makeshift fangyi sheet that ill continue updating if anybody is interested, if i got anything wrong (i dont think i did) or any minor mistakes plz lmk, i tried to make it similar to iana sheet so that people still understood it if coming from their sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_4X60VnI64Ova1mvMEoAAIZBpSZkC5BfJkQIXYsnSJM/edit?usp=sharing
bleh

[shrewd root]

my joat

why is gilberta there

[icy remnant]

I wouldn’t have tried Endfield if not for the fact it had AK’s title

I don’t see the hype behind NTE aside from gacha tourists just jumping on a new gacha

[forest lily]

all my clears have used gilberta, i dont see a reason to not have her

[trim fjord]

what is that racial term again in wuling, when qingbo stockade calls tianshi, wulingers, and when tianshis in wuling call stockaders, "something" term, they said it when one of arcane colleague reports it to zhuang fangyi and she corrects him with a term, stockader

[icy remnant]

Something pirates

[forest lily]

her ult is a high sucsep, sure its low uptime but that gets made up for with high uge

[shrewd root]

cause she doesnt have buffs for all zfs uptime

anyways

[dry kindle]

0sp buffer

[trim fjord]

yeh, like "something" pirates

[shrewd root]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest lily]

i do mention under antal that he fills rotations that gilberta cant use full uptime for

[dry kindle]

Extended doesn't matter when you kill with 1 ebs

[terse valley]

SLAB?

[dry kindle]

Yeah slab is actually good

[shrewd root]

lmao

[dry kindle]

You lose like 1.2k attack without it

[shrewd root]

whatre yall slabbing about

[forest lily]

slab is crazy on fyi

[terse valley]

i'm slabbing it

[forest lily]

but yeah i put gilb as main as most people should be able to clear easily with her without many sp issues for current content

when cc releases this entire doc could change due to 0 ult start

[dry kindle]

Then we just use alesh

[forest lily]

[dry kindle]

You can't run

[shrewd root]

ew.

[shrewd root]

nah i def can run

that dudes lazy as fuck if it aint about fishing

[dry kindle]

Actually idt alesh helps 34s cold start

[shrewd root]

hes like strictly worse the akekuri iirc

[icy remnant]

A lot of Fangyis power lies in being the only dps that can effectively use Slabs Will main stat

It kind of feels artificial

[dry kindle]

Still hits 300% damage dealt by herself with gear

[shrewd root]

artificial
artifice
close enough

[dry kindle]

So

And bskill MV is uh

[forest lily]

850~ main stat is high, do we double slab craft

[dry kindle]

Yeah

2184% for 100sp

[forest lily]

1k will schizopost

[shrewd root]

that one Pog build

[dry kindle]

She just shits out numbers

[shrewd root]

that is how dmg is dealt yeah

[dry kindle]

And we basically have yvonne incident 2.0

Aka waiting for electric tt

[shrewd root]

wdym by that

[dry kindle]

Or similar

[shrewd root]

ah ok

gta wait a whole month to get a team member frfr

[icy remnant]

If Fangyivl gets Electric TangTang she pretty much eclipses every team rn

I’m not sure that would happen so soon

[shrewd root]

doesnt she basically alr do that anyways with similar investment

[icy remnant]

Eclipse? No

[forest lily]

dont expect another elec 6* for a long while, they starved us elec mains this long, they will do it again

[shrewd root]

she do be up there

[shrewd root]

"this long" brother its ver 1.2

[dry kindle]

If we can hit 4 stack elec reasonably it's mildly funny to say the least

[dry kindle]

Elec mifu

You can't run

[icy remnant]

Game just came out man

We don’t even have 1 of each element dps and support yet

[shrewd root]

js run arclight is 12 morbillion ult regen

[icy remnant]

Phys also still eating sand rn
Or the nature dps
Or heat support

[forest lily]

im aware, im just joking about

[icy remnant]

The only element with everything is Cryo

[dry kindle]

Nature is probably

[shrewd root]

phys is the goat wdym

[dry kindle]

Liz dps sui supporr

[shrewd root]

we have John Endfield who clears all

[icy remnant]

Just waiting for LiFeng to get kicked out of Phys

[dry kindle]

Waiting for someone to fund my tt

[icy remnant]

So I can stop waiting for him to twirl his stick

[dry kindle]

[icy remnant]

Needing to wait for LiFeng to finish twirling his stick and finally hit(miss) so I can finally start my combo

[dry kindle]

Skipping tt was actual brick

[shrewd root]

tbh chen will prly go first

[shrewd root]

skill issue
chillin with mphys and zf now

[icy remnant]

Free Vuln stack is too good

[dry kindle]

[shrewd root]

next ones js gna be a free vuln stack with more MV

[sterile moat]

watch elec support get sp return and messes up zfy's ult gain rota

[dry kindle]

Haha

Fuck you.

I swear

[shrewd root]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-cat-blehh-cat-conswayo-yoyo-gif-2728106887809527143

[dry kindle]

Mfw forced to run bk uge chest

Or cope for uge xiraflow next patch

[shrewd root]

then we js make a new rota? whats the issue here

[icy remnant]

The problem is them giving weird amounts of SP return like 20

[dry kindle]

No it fucks with everything

[icy remnant]

A 50 SP return or 100 SP return is fine

[dry kindle]

In very aids ways

[dry kindle]

50 is still pretty shit

[icy remnant]

Just skill twice you’ll manage

[dry kindle]

That's 150 sp for what 100 would charge

🗿

[icy remnant]

Endmin staple 50sp return does well for Phys

[shrewd root]

i dont see how
js make a new rota

[icy remnant]

The extra infliction helps

[dry kindle]

Actually reduces their dps by like 5 or 6%

[dry kindle]

We already in hell with a 700sp cold start to ult

[shrewd root]

wouldnt more SP be better in that case

[dry kindle]

Probably no

[icy remnant]

Anyways it’s firmly “it depends”
It genuinely depends on what the skill actually does

A 50SP refund with a great skill would be huge

It’s only weird sp refund amounts like 20 or 30 that really screws it over

[shrewd root]

i see

[dry kindle]

Can we just kill returned sp

Okty

[shrewd root]

lmao

a lil overcap never hurt anybody

[dry kindle]

Except we're 0.8 energy undercap instead

Ice is like the only team that doesn't just get fucked by returned sp

[sterile moat]

yea since they actually get ult energy pots

[forest lily]

use this sticker again around me i wont be very happy

i keep trying to click off it to unhighlight

its disturbing me heavily

[shrewd root]

oh btw how important are perl and arclights pots to ZF?

[dry kindle]

[shrewd root]

whyre all your stickers blue

[forest lily]

p4 arc ult is the only one used

for -15% ugc

[shrewd root]

like someone was abouta copy it

[dry kindle]

[shrewd root]

well tragically i dont have that

so how much does that cook me officer

[dry kindle]

Arclight isnt real

Just send it

[forest lily]

yeah actualy thinking about it lmao

[dry kindle]

Idt it does at all

[forest lily]

p4 arc is the only pot that gets used in zfy team

perlica pots do nothing

[dry kindle]

Unless you're trying to do multiple per zfy ult I guess

[forest lily]

ig ult 2 for uec

[icy remnant]

If you raise Arclight you can also use her for DiJiang to produce useless weapon exp

10/10

[dry kindle]

[forest lily]

😭

[shrewd root]

right right
but i still dont have that so whut da fuck do i do now

[dry kindle]

Just don't give a shit

Shrimple

[shrewd root]

js swap her out for akekuri

[shrewd root]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[forest lily]

do you have anything

[dry kindle]

Tf are we doing with arclight ult in zfy ult

[shrewd root]

i have deez

[dry kindle]

[forest lily]

i mean both are just ult energy it means nothing if you're quick enough

[dry kindle]

Feel like there's a way to cheat a lv3 elec or something with it but idfk

Probably upgrading perlica elec

How many stacks arclight ult even apply

[shrewd root]

uno

[dry kindle]

[shrewd root]

if i use some sh like fortmaker for the uge can i effectively replace her p4 with enough of it?

[forest lily]

gg no thermite

[dry kindle]

No therm

Fate worse than death

[shrewd root]

twinjamin its like 8% atk

[dry kindle]

Just don't give a shit about it

Problem solved

[dry kindle]

16

[shrewd root]

isnt that only at p5

[thorn shore]

ATK% is big for zfy

[dry kindle]

It has 2 stacks

[shrewd root]

ah yeah you right

lowk late asf rn

[dry kindle]

Dumbahh

[shrewd root]

im fna eat your kneecaps lil jit

tbh how much of a dmg diff could 16% atk make

[icy remnant]

About 16%?

[shrewd root]

no shot its actually that proportional

aintnoway the games dmg formula allows that

[icy remnant]

Gets diluted by her sig ig
Maybe stanza if you have that on Gil

It’s not that much dilution

[thorn shore]

a lot when zfy has a bajillion dmg dealt%

[shrewd root]

hmmm

well this game is easy as shit rn anyways so its not like it would make much of a diff anyways

[icy remnant]

Thermite cutter isn’t important cus it’s good for FY

Thermite cutter is important cus it’s good for everyone

[forest lily]

that 8% saved my 48s nef clear

without it i wouldnt have made it

[shrewd root]

yeah then itd be 54 seconds

the horror

shivering in my timbers at the thought

[forest lily]

no because he goes into defence mode

[icy remnant]

That’s not how it works

[forest lily]

itll boost it to like a minute

[icy remnant]

If your damage isn’t enough you’ll have to wait for your next burst window

Your 1 rotation can be doubled into 2

[dry kindle]

10%

R9 attack line + xiraflow set

[shrewd root]

tragic

[forest lily]

what looks better on a thumbnail

0:48 or 1:15

[dry kindle]

Sub 40

[shrewd root]

sub 30

[dry kindle]

Just use p11 rossi

[forest lily]

ok

[dry kindle]

Its that shrimple

[shrewd root]

js use p420 zf

ezpz

[dry kindle]

Be like our saviour zimen

[icy remnant]

“GAME DYING EOS SOON DEVS MESSED UP”

[forest lily]

💀

[shrewd root]

so real

[forest lily]

average ||saint|| fan

[thorn shore]

behold my new build

[sterile moat]

ZFY SUCKS?!?! then post the timer

[forest lily]

omg new factories are amazing

[forest lily]

i saw a bili post end the timer 2 seconds early 💀

they were NOT slick with it

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1DKdJBLECc/

[thorn shore]

fixed the only problem i had AFKing before slow boss kills

now they just nuke the alluvium boss

and all mobs

on a 8s cd

[forest lily]

the devious 17s clear

vs the humble in game timer

[sterile moat]

Lmao

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/vKCdf1z

[thorn shore]

the ardelia method what the frig

[forest lily]

this is sick what

[sterile moat]

Endmin zfy speed run being so lore accurate its funny

[forest lily]

first time seeing a actual pot 5 run

cant wait to get mine

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

Where's my p5 tt

[forest lily]

bro i had -0.99 in my bank this morning

[thorn shore]

dud wth who invited endmin to the zfy team

[shrewd root]

thousand bucks for 50% extra dmg

[forest lily]

its bad

[thorn shore]

whats he doin there

[dry kindle]

😭

[sterile moat]

Do you know how much of a difference is her p5 sig

[shrewd root]

how did you even manage that

[forest lily]

foreign conversion fees applied after

like a couple days after

[dry kindle]

Are you vpning to jp

[shrewd root]

lmao

[forest lily]

and its not my main so i only transferred what i was spending

[shrewd root]

vpn to nigeria next time

[forest lily]

~~bro its 1/3 cheaper ~~

protocol is normally 30 buckos, when buying in japan its only 20 after conversion

but im travelling to japan to buy it so dw

SHINY RAYQUAZAZ

OMG

sorry

what even goes down in tc chat anyway

[dry kindle]

Nothing

[forest lily]

i can tell

[dry kindle]

Where's mine

[forest lily]

the only person i owe anything to currently is @river ermine

they won a bet with me and i have to pay up a monthly

[dry kindle]

Whel

[river ermine]

ha

[peak void]

Does anyone know which one is better for chen and endmin

[thorn shore]

There isn’t any TCers left to TC

It’s just people asking questions and random bullshit

[forest lily]

ill come in a bit more often

but only if its an elec character

i only do those

[thorn shore]

As long as you do math

[forest lily]

math is fun

[thorn shore]

No one here wants to do math to figure out what’s best anymore

[peak void]

So this channel is just bum now or what

[thorn shore]

Mostly bums

Nothing even close to how good the doc was

But doc guys done

And no one wants to be new doc guy

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[forest lily]

im already new doc guy

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_4X60VnI64Ova1mvMEoAAIZBpSZkC5BfJkQIXYsnSJM/edit?usp=sharing

-# for elec

if people really need other teams made if you do the math i can do docs

its not that hard to produce, yeah it takes time but i enjoy it, aslong as i have the correct info

[dry kindle]

Fund my mifu and sesqa

[peak void]

Ok can u do phys

[forest lily]

do you have every piece of info accurately able to reproduce the level of info iana did

[peak void]

Brother i just need this comparison

[forest lily]

tbh alot of that was probably just yap

i never read it

[forest lily]

like i said, im the elec guy, i only do elec

[peak void]

smh what a bum

[forest lily]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yap-6

is this my first time interacting with you

i recognize your name

[peak void]

I dont think so

We may have talked before, though briefly

Im more of an #aic-factory regular anyway lol

[forest lily]

calling me a bum on conversation 2, its that bad

[forest lily]

oh did you comment on a bp of mine on 1.1 drop actually

[peak void]

You cant call yourself the new sheet guy and not do a simple comparison between 2 pcs of gear 😭

Thats bum behaviour bro /j

[forest lily]

you did

you were in my bp

[peak void]

I commented on a lot of bps

[forest lily]

dude i legit dont even know what breach does

i know every in and out about elec

and nothing else

[peak void]

[forest lily]

hence why id need the info given to me

[peak void]

Honestly, all we need for this is chen and endmin dmg distribution by skill

I recall ult being a good portion for both, but idk if that makes replacing phys% for ult% worth it

[lime bear]

1.3 info when

[forest lily]

hey i used chen once

it was in a perlica mdps team just to stagger boss fast

[peak void]

wow

okay @forest lily whats the best gear for fangyi

is it xiranflow + slab

[forest lily]

ye

[peak void]

Okay at least i can start building that

[dry kindle]

Never

[signal palm]

don't know for endmin but for chen ultimate damage is very good if you have glorious

[lime bear]

xiranite aux uge trust for umbral

[signal palm]

a lot of people specialize in only one team, for example I only know a lot about physical
people contribute where they can, it's hard to ask for someone like iana who puts in the work and calculations for every team

[peak void]

I said that in jest

[signal palm]

ah ic my bad

[peak void]

Im just happy to get any sort of reputable calc

Even if it may not be the one im looking for atm

[signal palm]

ult% is worth it for chen, but phys% is also worth it depending on your rotation and how much of her bs you use/if you use chen for finisher/if you use chen as controlled so its hard to do calcs to determine which is better
for endmin phys% is better in most rotations due to bs/swordmancer and her common use as controlled op/finisher but i've seen a situation where ult% was better (speedrun rhodagn 20s with panda as crusher)

[peak void]

I think ill give up on endmin

About chen though

Assuming i never pilot her, even for finisher

[signal palm]

become panda main 🥹

[peak void]

nah ill still play endmin, but like i wont force the kit on her anymore

[signal palm]

oh ok

hypercarry panda meme team

p1 exemplar so p0 can still pretty much pull these numbers

[elder skiff]

what is meme about the team though

seems like just da pan, ard, pog, chen

[signal palm]

physical team with ardelia is a meme

[chilly bolt]

aleshlover

[forest lily]

holy

[sturdy hill]

holy

[dry kindle]

Someone translate

[forest lily]

something about hotstart

blah blah single aux arm

gloves

[nova lance]

Is this fangyi calc

[sterile moat]

gear calcs

[nova lance]

For?

[sterile moat]

damage done

[potent hornet]

ahhh dern, i jacked up my new component setup and got it clogged. probably 7 hours of no production 🙁

[inland quarry]

If using antal with zfy, are we using his bs?

[sleek seal]

Does hot work set increase dmg after team applies combustion or after character applies combustion. If it's char then shouldnt it be not thaaat good for laevi since her most dmging skill applies combustion and the dmg increase will be after that

[scarlet apex]

Which account should I main?

[high finch]

2nd one

if you have yvone y'r bricked

why do you have fangyi sig on first but without fangyi?

[scarlet apex]

Cause i was trying to get her on that account and i was 30 pity from guaranteeing her

[scarlet apex]

okay thank you for your help!

[high finch]

it's a joke about yvonne but you kinda want tang-tang for her which you dont have

i think laev+gil+fangyi is more value than 1st one

[scarlet apex]

yeah I was also leaning towards that one because I would be able to save more pulls rather than the 1st one where I completed a lot of the stuff already

[high finch]

i only pulled laev during 1st patch and just saved for 2 patches straight

and this patch i got so lucky i've never been this lucky in any other gachas i played

in 40 pulls i got fangyi+rossi+ardelia+lr

and i started patch at 340 pulls, used my pulls and now i have 348

[dry kindle]

wheres my 340 pulls

[high finch]

if you save from beginning you've probably had it

as i say i only pulled laev

[dry kindle]

i only did 70/80 on laev

[high finch]

i kinda want gilberta but i dunno i think there will be better options in nearest future

[dry kindle]

and chests are only 20k

[high finch]

i almst baited myself into pulling tang-tang

but i also need a sig for her and cause of me pulling very rarely i have fucking 0 wpn gacha tickets

and in both laev and fangyi cases i had to go 8/8 on both wpn banners

so 30k wpn tickets just went there

[dry kindle]

idk where im missing so many pulls from

[high finch]

do you buy mounthly+bp?

[dry kindle]

no

[high finch]

maybe from there

[dry kindle]

shouldnt be

[high finch]

You know what I like about this game? The fact that characters are usually appear in some sub quests. Usually in other gachas when we have certain character banner we have it story and after that the characters rarely ever show up as if world is frozen for them until mc appears nearby. Here we usually meet mifu in sub quests. Sometimes tang-tang and perlica+chen is always with us which is a lot better than having paimon or Abby. But still whole valley4 and it’s characters is frozen until we come back there

[daring dove]

Fangyi / Leavatain & Best girl reduce mood reduction by half pretty good EXP farm.

[honest hill]

@forest lily done

[dry kindle]

whel

[forest lily]

now hit 48s nef

[honest hill]

u was waiting for me

[high finch]

My fangyi is assigned for control chamber cause it gives friendship. I usually put everyone there until they’re at 200 friendship

[honest hill]

i don't have the others built...

[daring dove]

Is that fully artificed.

[dry kindle]

wheres your sub 40

[forest lily]

wheres my funds for p5

[honest hill]

yes fully arti max trust P0

[dry kindle]

no

[dry kindle]

wheres my tt

[forest lily]

look behind you

[daring dove]

So P2 is about a 180 ATK increase good to know.

[honest hill]

@forest lily who's her teammates

[forest lily]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_4X60VnI64Ova1mvMEoAAIZBpSZkC5BfJkQIXYsnSJM/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[honest hill]

oh

[honest hill]

whel smh

@forest lily lmao my ww is p0

[forest lily]

gg

[honest hill]

rip

[dry kindle]

Muh crowns

62 left 😔

[honest hill]

infliction hm

lemme see

[dry kindle]

😭

[honest hill]

I don't even have a +3

💀

[high finch]

mine is fully done

full artificed full crowns

[warped idol]

anyone crafted a level 4 electrification rot for zfy?

I have one but it's 300sp start. With arclight it's probably 200sp start but then you'll do much less dmg

[honest hill]

give up

[warped idol]

it will work once a new electric support drops

trust

[dry kindle]

just bribe hg for elec mifu

[warped idol]

https://youtu.be/DBfWoou0AOs

anyway here's the rot. Barely enough sp to function

akekuri ult could be used earlier but im not sure

[honest hill]

I hope soon

[dry kindle]

shu jumpscare

[warped idol]

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-sui-gif-7073468061133619170

Zhuang Fangshu

[heavy herald]

no updated build for yvonne in 1.2?

[honest hill]

Hifumi

[elder skiff]

for her team, maybe qingbo set for tt and new frontier tube for xaihi but i don’t think there’s anything for yvonne

[heavy herald]

does qingbo set affects others? its only the wearer right?

[elder skiff]

yea

[outer ermine]

[honest hill]

Are you still trying

[outer ermine]

nope my rot is done for sub 45, just waiting on gear

[heavy herald]

should I go armor or gloves for soupsoup?

[elder skiff]

what are you running originally on tt first

[heavy herald]

bonekrusha

[elder skiff]

i need to see it

like the whole 4 pc

[elder skiff]

i’d do like 3 qingbo + slab for dmg/redeemer for uge

[heavy herald]

done

welp I wish yvonne has upgraded gears as well

[potent hornet]

whats her potential?

if you have p1 the first set probably would have been better

[frigid vector]

ya, both p1 and p4

with p1 you can use lynx slab on antal and still make it to ultimate if you use his combo skill early (so you get x2 over the 3/3 combo/battle split with zfy)

and with p4 you can use that with literally any team and it'll work (like ardelia)

[frigid vector]

also holy shit

[potent hornet]

its nice having Hifumi around to see max pots in action

[dry kindle]

[dry kindle]

p1 op gg

[distant python]

what weapon does perlica use in fangyi team?

[elder skiff]

ww or deto

[forest lily]

god thew final pop on 5+5+5+5 is just incredible

[distant python]

okay im using deto then when i play that team

[forest lily]

1.6m...

[elder skiff]

use deto if u do double perl bs

don’t if otherwise

[distant python]

i literally just swap avy for fangyi right? with perlica arclight gil

[elder skiff]

yeah

[distant python]

rip avy

[elder skiff]

gilb can be changed with antal but it’s situational

[distant python]

we need more team slots

[potent hornet]

keep in mind those are whale numbers

[heavy herald]

does gib still running eternal xiranite? or there are changes?

[outer ermine]

sheep too stronk

[dry kindle]

money too stronk

[outer ermine]

still looking for a pilot

[sterile moat]

Its so over

Still 25 op and no tt

[outer ermine]

stepup gl

[dry kindle]

ok mf

[outer ermine]

what site is that

[dry kindle]

skport

[outer ermine]

oh wtf

[dry kindle]

shit skland

[sterile moat]

will i offbanner ember finally in 1.3

[distant python]

i got ember 2x before my fangyi

[dry kindle]

still waiting for my tt

[distant python]

p2 ember

[dry kindle]

smh

[distant python]

i will get p5 ember eventually for the profile (also attack buff on ult)

[dry kindle]

i will get tt eventually

(rerun)

(somehow replaced in the next banner)

[sterile moat]

i was 20 off from token pity so was hoping hard i lose to tt

[dry kindle]

ok whel

[outer ermine]

im 2w/7l rn i think

holo take my luck

pls

[dry kindle]

im poor

[sterile moat]

bruh...

[distant python]

bright side of losing to ember x2 is now i have 13k arsenal credits again

do i go for her sig or no

[elder skiff]

zfy?

[distant python]

ye

[elder skiff]

yea go for sig

[distant python]

fuck man

i still need to eventually get khrav

[elder skiff]

just get an early zfy sig then pull khrav ez

[dry kindle]

i have khrav

idk why atp

🗿

[elder skiff]

ok whel

[dry kindle]

no tt

[distant python]

i have never got early win on banner

[dry kindle]

[distant python]

every single time i have to do the full 8 pulls

[outer ermine]

whyd u even skip

[dry kindle]

idfk

😭

[daring dove]

Getting closer 5 more levels on Lifeng then all 6* operators are level 90.

[potent hornet]

nice

[sterile moat]

that 90 perlica

[distant python]

i had like 1 million credits earlier, now i have 50k

gg

putting fangyi to 90 wiped me out

havent even levelled her weapon yet

[elder skiff]

u claimed the newbie stuff from event yet?

it gives mats and creds

[distant python]

ye

thats why i had like 1 million

[potent hornet]

not quite there yet, workin on it tho

[outer ermine]

how many purples striker

[dry kindle]

gimmie tt

[potent hornet]

she is waiting for you in like 5-10 pulls

[distant python]

Bro i still only have p2 xaihi, this game refuses to give me her

i keep seeing alesh

p20 alesh

[dry kindle]

p16 xaihi

[potent hornet]

it would be funny if he had more p lvls than anyone else. every level after 5 raises the rare fish chance 1%

[distant python]

i dont use alesh and wulf ever

they are still lvl 20

[potent hornet]

i leveled him to make the laev team

just to have it if i need it

wulf anyway

alesh is still baby mode

i really want a 6 star alesh variant

[dry kindle]

surely i 10 pull and get tt + p1 zfy

[potent hornet]

naw just TT

[daring dove]

Not bad at all

[daring dove]

I only have 1 purple 90 Akekuri the rest are level 1

I'm a vertical investment guy so I don't touch a character until I'm going to build them to level 90

[dry kindle]

[daring dove]

One exception being Wulfguard because I didn't realise how bad he was at the beginning so he's been left 80 for a long time.

[outer ermine]

[dry kindle]

fund my tt

[potent hornet]

gimme half your quota exchange tickets!!

[dry kindle]

gimmie all of yours

[potent hornet]

alllllll yours

[potent hornet]

||ohhhh i get it, you played her in the story quest and got a taste of her gameplay.||

[bronze plume]

Bros finna have to wait till her JO banner

Bros gonna have to wait till 1.4 L

[daring dove]

That's fine you give him all of yours an you can have all of mine.

[potent hornet]

lol

[bronze plume]

The one thing whales dont have

Because they can just get them back ez af

[potent hornet]

yea i had just over 1k about 3 hours ago

[dry kindle]

theyre not redoing jo banners

[bronze plume]

Thats uhh

Good for you

[bronze plume]

Damn bro knows lowlight

Can you ask him when the next starset song is coming out

[dry kindle]

no i just wanna play lr tt

[potent hornet]

doesn't mean that they won't do another similar one that is also special for a release

[sterile moat]

i know lowlight, he says that it will be during cc

[dry kindle]

wut

[potent hornet]

this one won't effect other head hunts, meaning pity and stuff from this will not effect other headhunting

but they could still do another similar event for another big patch release

[bronze plume]

Tbf where does that say

[potent hornet]

yea, Fest of Briliance won't

[dry kindle]

pretty sure we only got the jo banner because 49 day patch with a 35 day fangyi

[bronze plume]

This is the pne and only JO banner

[potent hornet]

but what about Bazonga Bonanza? Or Sleep of Silence

[dry kindle]

[potent hornet]

BB is the 2027 anniversary banner, don't tell anyone

/s

[daring dove]

Guess I'll have to start saving my standard banner tickets now. They're all useless to me, hopefully it's a bit like Genshin where the standard banner pool gets updated every year or so.

[dry kindle]

bruh

[sterile moat]

and it would still be useless to you...

[dry kindle]

this fuckin whel

[potent hornet]

thats your purple currency piggy bank

[dry kindle]

tbh i did email cs to ask but got hit with the ill tell my manager so 🗿

anyway back to coping tt somehow gets replaced in lr comp

[potent hornet]

gonna be huffing that one for a while

i think cryo is set for a while

[dry kindle]

i might be able to afford tt rerun mifu liz sui

assuming i dont hit fucking 120x4

[potent hornet]

if you are hoping for a TT spook you will want the 120x4

[dry kindle]

which is looking unlikely because pre sure im 3/3 on going 70+ pity

except yk

tt not on any of their banners

probably

[potent hornet]

oh yea she is gone after Fang drops huh

[dry kindle]

ya

time to offbanner rossi on mifu

🗿

[potent hornet]

you could do a second account and drop the free stuff on TT and get LR selector

well try to get spooked by TT anyway

[dry kindle]

id rather swipe atp

[potent hornet]

its not great but it is an option

if i didn't get rossi i was considering it

[dry kindle]

💀

we love looting chests

[potent hornet]

not too bad when you kinda know where they are and don't miss them on the story path

[dry kindle]

do mine then

[potent hornet]

but i got my TT

[dry kindle]

whel

[potent hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/whalers-on-the-moon-whalers-moon-moon-whalers-gif-514559744655520630

[fierce bane]

funny enough i just offrated rossi on zhuang

and got her first copy with free pulls while planning to skip her banner

[fierce bane]

painful how bad the pots are in this game

[bronze plume]

Would yourather p2 be a 100% dmg increase

If yes

Go play a hoyo game

[fierce bane]

yea, its either shit or op, cant have any inbetween can we

[ocean turret]

who are these people?

[sleek seal]

Do we have %s for fangyi sig and bp wep?

[merry dune]

I thought we get a endmin pot this patch do we not

[bronze plume]

Nitro boost

[ocean turret]

ohh

just rich people

okee

[bronze plume]

All i can respond with is

LMFAO

[bronze plume]

If we do itll be in the 2nd half

[sleek seal]

?

[trim fjord]

server boosters

[terse valley]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

wasup TC what's the dirt

[merry dune]

idk prydwen shows there’s like a ~16% diff between p0 sig and p5 bp

[bronze plume]

Theres no dirt

[vivid hamlet]

ok this team is a lot of fun

[bronze plume]

Fangyis already been tced

[sleek seal]

Alr

[terse valley]

aw

[bronze plume]

So now we wsit like 40 days