theorycrafting

[chilly bolt]

Why is she naked 💀

[sterile moat]

Wait, not even p10 or ur atk will be over 6k

[vivid hamlet]

it's p9

cuz fuck weapon gacha

[dry kindle]

whel

whel to whel communication

[vivid hamlet]

weapon dupe rates in endfield are abysmal

[chilly bolt]

It is

Evil 25% rate up

[lime bear]

I got it

[sterile moat]

Grats

[lime bear]

cutting a bit close like 180s ig

Alesh feels really good in zfy

[chilly bolt]

Feel like this boss is too squishy

[lime bear]

cuz with his combos and sp you can spam tf out of Fangyi ult

Antal have stronger buffs but ur sp will be limited

Alesh might be actual bis

[chilly bolt]

I mean yes people having been theorycrafting alesh in fy team

Because fuck arclight

[lime bear]

I used arc too tho

the usual fangyi perlicka arc alesh

[chilly bolt]

Oh that one team with 2 vgs

[broken shale]

man i already lvld up my arclight, am i cooked

[lime bear]

feels so fucking good during ult window

literally so much sp and just spam tf out of Fangyi EBS

I did it without food

[chilly bolt]

It's not the end of the world she still does the job but i just dont like her

[broken shale]

i still havent evenm gotten armor for fangyi tbh

just got her to 90 and did masteries

[lime bear]

what's the consensus on Gil in Fangyi team

I might pull her in the JO banner

but I'll wait for 1.3 stream

[smoky quarry]

I'd pull rerun banner only if I had too much money, cause you ain't gonna get what you want from first leg drop

25% chance

[dry kindle]

give the money to me instead

need the tt

[warped sorrel]

after i try 2 vanguard in fangyi team
noway im goin back to 1 vanguard team

[vivid hamlet]

im gonna do le funny rossi/fangyi/perlica/gilb team

[drifting berry]

Does arts intensity on Perlica matter on Fangyi teams?

Like since the electrification gets consumed, wouldn't it make it irrelevant/less useful?

[bronze plume]

accurate

no idea if it actually makes her gear diff

but defo makes ai less useful

[drifting berry]

Just looking for an excuse for critlica, tho most the cooldown on combo seems more useful

[bronze plume]

crit 💀

[vivid hamlet]

just checking, perlica can't trigger this can she?

[drifting berry]

Funny enough it's not even the worst

Also Oblivion buffs crit in some way I think

[vivid hamlet]

or at least it'd be significantly difficult

[dry kindle]

no

[drifting berry]

She can with her combo skill

[dry kindle]

zfy combo also overrides perlica elec anyway

[lime bear]

real

[dry kindle]

unless youre doing the funny timing thing you dont even hit into perlica elec

[vivid hamlet]

im trying to think what weapon i should use on perlica to best support rossi and fangyi

[bronze plume]

maybe i should tamper with perlica then

still got her on uhh

[lime bear]

so what's the best stat for her? should still use Qingbo set right

[bronze plume]

whatever her ai set is i think for dps

[lime bear]

Wild Wanderer no

[drifting quest]

Oblivi or WW

Are your perlica choices

Depends on investment

[vivid hamlet]

ww doesn't help rossi much

since ult is the main dmg source

[main nova]

🤔 for some reason with Fangyi I want my perlica do more ult

[drifting quest]

If its rossi team its stanza

[vivid hamlet]

no it's a rossi/fangyi team

[bronze plume]

there using fangyi with rossi

[drifting quest]

If its rossi fangyi its oblivion and you rely on whale priv

[main nova]

i dont want to miss fangyi ultimate window afterall

[vivid hamlet]

alright

[lime bear]

what does perli ult do again

[main nova]

it just a damage but its cost is cheap and p5 give you some crit

[lime bear]

I do have her at P5

[drifting berry]

Finally got Fangyi gear, hopefully she starts doing some damage now

[scenic karma]

is a p5 white night nova good for arclight in fangyi teams or thermite is still better? i prefer using the former just because it looks better

[drifting quest]

p5 of a bad weapon does not beat p0 of a good one

im sorry for your loss

[sterile moat]

trying to use det unit on perlica and it feels pretty cursed

[drifting berry]

bruh

[dry kindle]

L

[honest hill]

[lime bear]

laugh at this user

[silk trellis]

do you guys have weapon calcs for zhuang fangyi

[daring dove]

Shoulda used good match.

[neat snow]

[drifting berry]

So

Arcane wants her signature or not?

[drifting quest]

ragebait

[drifting quest]

prydwens are sufficient

average doesnt skew like much at all per team

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1kXdVBSEB8/

😭

[daring dove]

No she wants Fangyi's sig pull it twice.

[dry kindle]

rossi 2 phase boss when stew meeting

[smoky quarry]

I thought she uses swords

[brazen coral]

zhuang/perlica/arclight then ardelia p2 or antal p6?

[smoky quarry]

antal p5?

[brazen coral]

yeah p5 my bad

[smoky quarry]

having p5 on 4 stars is kinda given

[brazen coral]

which one is better on zhuang team? ardelia or antal?

[smoky quarry]

Ardelia isn't good for fangyi, like at all

Cause her damage susc requires SP

Fangyi needs all SP

Either antal or gilberta for buffer

[ocean turret]

i saw others just use her only for free corrosion

[brazen coral]

tyvm. have a good one

[smoky quarry]

very short-lived resistance shred, meh

[ocean turret]

but if you use her bs, the debuff reaches 30 secs

[smoky quarry]

using whole-ass unit just for occasional corro is a weird pick for me

[ocean turret]

[smoky quarry]

Her ult is useless to say the least

[ocean turret]

oh btw

can u explain the stacks here

does that mean u need to activate electric amp 3 times?

[hidden marlin]

yeah

I mean she spams her skill and that gives amp

[ocean turret]

oh use her skill 3 times?

not the amp skill?

i mean antal's skill?

[ocean turret]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH

she has electric amp

[hidden marlin]

antal can also trigger it but she does it herself too

[ocean turret]

oke then

i dont ahev fangyi so i didnt know

ill pull her tomorrow using my free pulls

[smoky quarry]

reading is optional

just mash buttons

unit so broken that it always works

[potent hornet]

for those that waited all this time for her, was it worth the wait?

[ocean turret]

i have 30 pulls left till 50:50 pity

i have20 free pulls tomorrow

if i dont get her within 20, it means my 10 left goes to mifu

[bronze plume]

how you getting 20 free pulls gang

[ocean turret]

dossier + the 10 free from daily and the shop

my 20th free pull will be claimed tomorrow

[bronze plume]

oh you havent used the dossier yet?

[ocean turret]

nope

just waiting for tomorrow to pull all 20 at once

[bronze plume]

fair enuf

gl

[daring dove]

Who should I build next Pog or Lifeng. I should have enough resources left to largely build one of them right now.

[bronze plume]

pog

[daring dove]

Fair enough then Pog it is.

There we go that'll do for now until I start using him.

[bronze plume]

he says as he upgrades them to max besides masteries

[ocean turret]

M1

[potent hornet]

pog

i got spooked by lifeng on my first 50/50 so i finally have everyone now, might try to get that phys team up and running

[nova lance]

Is alef in the contention of the 4th member of fangyi team?

[daring dove]

That's my next order a business I don't want a really cool PHY waifu to drop an be completely unable to to build a team around her. Next order of business is Lifeng then Chen.

[ocean turret]

who?

[bronze plume]

phy waifu

aka physical waifu

[ocean turret]

MIFU

[bronze plume]

physical the element

[potent hornet]

probably mifu

[bronze plume]

waifu someone striker wants to b-

aka mifu

[ocean turret]

literally mifu

[drifting quest]

[potent hornet]

i'm at the point that anything elemental i basically have all the pieces built and can hotswap just about anyone in that i need without investment

i have very little into phys

[nova lance]

Any1?

[potent hornet]

alesh is fine

wait who are you asking about

who is alef

[nova lance]

Muscle memory

Sry

[daring dove]

I'm actually wondering how many decent characters I have left to build to be honest. I think it's only really Chen / Lifeng / Antal / Alesh that's arguably good.

[potent hornet]

you got arclight up i take it

[smoky quarry]

character i made up two minutes ago

[bronze plume]

dapan also exists

[daring dove]

Yeah she's 90

[bronze plume]

granted i expect endmin pots to say bye to dapan at some point

then a new phys 6 star will kick endmin out

avy was good

then came fangyi

[potent hornet]

i would be sad if endmin potentials would not be good enough to keep them in a team

[daring dove]

Yeah I don't think there's any shelf life left in Depan for that reason.

Endmin already fighting for his slot now.

[bronze plume]

my shelf life for dapan is

i hate endmin

[potent hornet]

tho, i can see endmin falling off for a while and then when p4/p5 drops they earn their slot back

[bronze plume]

really depends on if phys falls off

[ocean turret]

pog will be replaced with mifu in phys team

[potent hornet]

don't say that

[bronze plume]

rossi is keeping it a lil but like elemental rossi is just better

[potent hornet]

POG, Mifu ship all the way

[chilly bolt]

still dunno who goes in 4th slot

[potent hornet]

TangTang

[chilly bolt]

3 man army

i could just slab rossi in and call it a day

[potent hornet]

.bestgirl

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1470981037210337341/ezgif-2ae7fae77d7a0907.gif?ex=69cdded8&is=69cc8d58&hm=392ad922cf28b05caabc292484bc9cfc5948d0836a23ad2c73c44206ed33999c&

[potent hornet]

awww they replaced it

.bestgirl2

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[potent hornet]

how dare they

[bronze plume]

.genericgirl should be fangyi

[daring dove]

This team seems to be doing ok for me so far. It's kind of like 2 mini-teams in one though.

[bronze plume]

tbf its literally just

rossi element team but fangyi not tt

and fangyi team but rossi not vanguard

[smoky quarry]

not oblivion on perlica somehow

[smoky quarry]

I really can't see anything unique about her

[bronze plume]

shes just like the leader of a area

lost all interest with her when we had that weird little 'date' like part in the story with her in cbt2 tbh

[smoky quarry]

Endfield is so mediocre bruh 😭

[bold rose]

even with full UGE Wulf can I keep Clannibal instead of swapping to OBJ?

[bronze plume]

on what team

[ocean turret]

looking good

[bold rose]

lae

[inland quarry]

How are zfy teams looking so far?

[bronze plume]

clannibal on wulf in the first place for laev is interesting

[smoky quarry]

If you want ult every cycle, OBJ is mandatory afaik

If you want clannibal, then build wulf as secondary damage dealer with BK set

[bronze plume]

uge piece and a vanguard or cry for ult

[elder skiff]

wouldn’t even gonna activate clannibal because normally you are not clicking his bs

[bold rose]

what about rossi
I use wulf in both teams

or should I just run Lae + Rossi as a combined duo

[bronze plume]

wulf can use clannibal with rossi but you dont want to go uge gear with it

[inland quarry]

Team comps?

[smoky quarry]

.

[bold rose]

what if I'm running Lae Rossi together

[bronze plume]

i would personally question your life choices

[smoky quarry]

distant cousin 😭

[bold rose]

I mean...
Lae Rossi Wulf Gilb
not that bad

it's just taking out the Akekuri spot

[bronze plume]

you are not

thinking of using wulf bs in a laev rossi no vanguard team

[drifting quest]

if you want to do it then go viberot it

[daring dove]

There we go anyway since I finally leveled Pog & Fangyi just dropped my manufacturing cabin's got a nice upgrade.

[outer ermine]

fuck yes i finally figured it out

faster and better than the 21s kill ver cuz i have sp for next phase too

[dry kindle]

Where my tt

[outer ermine]

welp now i cant test phase 2 cuz i cant kill yet

just lose sworce

[dry kindle]

Fund me

[outer ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891230348950765598/1382350867419762819/GtGvS6GXwAAAIO2.gif

oh wait maybe

[bronze plume]

fund me then?

i would really appreciate some arsenal tickets

[drifting quest]

fund my thermite cutter

[dry kindle]

Surely next cryo pushes tt out of comp

[tight haven]

kill xaihi

[honest hill]

time to find u other games to play

[outer ermine]

21~22 w alesh 2x cs on cs cd food worth af but i dont wanna farm

[honest hill]

peasant farming

[outer ermine]

naw im just testing imma watch in abit

okay this mf is running 2 pudding 1 stew for a 60

[thorn shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaQzqdFELw

are we deadass living in a fangyi rossi meta

[drifting quest]

no different than the last 12 times it was brought up

[thorn shore]

i just now saw it

[drifting quest]

works because game is easy

but a video like that is clickbait

there are faster times

[thorn shore]

i was looking for what fangyi rotations are for speedruns

was gonna ask that

wheres the faster times

[drifting quest]

bilibili

[thorn shore]

got a link perchance?

[outer ermine]

god its so sad we're both doing fake rossi hypercarry endmin is just coping

[drifting quest]

cn games are almost always ahead

not on hand

[thorn shore]

im not a connoisseur of the fine bilibili videos

nor korea or chinese or japanese or whatever bilibili is

found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtAvps06YOA

[drifting quest]

worth learning if you care about these sort of things

[thorn shore]

but its the stupid easy boss

[sterile moat]

p0 fangyi
has a p5 rossi carrying

[thorn shore]

not the cool lady dragon

[drifting quest]

its p5p5 p5p5 rossi gilb no

[thorn shore]

was the rossi p5

what the fuck

[sterile moat]

yes lmao

[thorn shore]

actual clickbait vid

[bronze plume]

fangyi rossi isnt real

[drifting quest]

best p0 fangyi comp

[tight haven]

the team is fake because after the first rot you like

die

[drifting quest]

its whalebait team for speedruns

[sterile moat]

i in no way advocate it for p0

[thorn shore]

does it matter if theyre dead after first rot

[bold rose]

should I M3 anything on Endmin in a Rossi team

[sterile moat]

but for p4+ comps, rossi zfy is very legit

[tight haven]

not really

[drifting quest]

sort of kind of works at p0p0 for both but its 4th slot wheelchaired rossi

[tight haven]

if the game continues to validate comps like this then

well i mean you got a point right

[thorn shore]

this mf using ake, no antal or arc

[bronze plume]

cc plz save us

[tight haven]

who cares if the game is braindead easy enough to allow for speedrun nonsense teams in everything

[drifting quest]

ake is better for speedrun

better buff

more short term sp

[thorn shore]

better buffs than antal???

[drifting quest]

relative to the cost yes

one does it for free

[thorn shore]

i mean antal ult tho affects a lot of bs

and hers just one

[tight haven]

link is a bigger buff provided you're killing in 1 ebs

[thorn shore]

oh right its rod

so we are killing in 1

[chilly bolt]

we using speedrun comp as the normal now?

[tight haven]

dude there's a yinglung tianshi angst yaoi sidequest

this patch is fucking epic

[thorn shore]

english pls

[bronze plume]

what

[tight haven]

the one with xi mo and summit

[bronze plume]

brother spoke in tongues

[tight haven]

its so fucking good

[outer ermine]

theres is a world where roshatter can sub 50 nef...

[drifting quest]

say gex

i like this patch a lot

msq has a couple issues but its mostly good

sidequests have been nice

exploration was fun

[tight haven]

deadass i cant be upset at the direction their storytelling has gone

[chilly bolt]

i like everything in this patch except fangyi

[bronze plume]

i like it all but

FUCK YOU AIC

DIE

[tight haven]

its really engaging this patch

[tight haven]

TRUEEEEEE

[thorn shore]

wow the 22s speedrun is literally all in on the one skill

[drifting quest]

the sheer cuprium deficit is annoying

[tight haven]

fucking hell four new cuprium deposits

[thorn shore]

none of it helps me change my team at all

fun

[nova lance]

I thought summit would've been a girl

[tight haven]

are you KIDDING me

[tight haven]

not the only one

[nova lance]

[drifting quest]

heavy xiranite liquid is a blight upon the patch

[bronze plume]

i dont care for the more advanced crucible

[tight haven]

i made 200 bottles and shut it off

[rare zodiac]

can't really look at speedrun for stable rot reference

[bronze plume]

bros there to save space

[drifting quest]

i brute forced what i could with normal xiranite

[bronze plume]

if i run outta space

ill deal with it

[thorn shore]

not that bad when ur making heavy xira anyway

[drifting quest]

im not making heavy xira anyway

[thorn shore]

can grab things here and there from them sometimes theyre the only people who optimized shit and have proof its somewhat optimized

[drifting quest]

i make like 1/min byproduct while making components

and i run components for like a few hours at most

[thorn shore]

i can trust speedrunners to be semi correct bare minimum

[sterile moat]

they can run that only cus of the ult reduc making certain stuff possible

[honest hill]

next time we vc, I'll stream u a good non gacha game

[sterile moat]

trying to copy it is griefing yourself

[thorn shore]

this zimen dude is ragebait

[honest hill]

this time u won't fall asleep

[thorn shore]

rossi teams with fangyi sideline watching

there was that one 30s someone shared in here

it helps a bit to look at cause it wasnt all in on one skill

altho it was arc over perl

so not too realisitic of a comp but things can be taken from it

[undone leaf]

is fangyi guide already in here?

[drifting quest]

prydwen's is good for fangyi

assuming you read it all

[thorn shore]

low chance of there being one in here glhf

[drifting quest]

isnt exhaustive due to space concerns but good enough

for like 90% of people

[outer ermine]

ye, also i wanna set towers on slugs next time imma need alot

all mortars

🤝

[smoky quarry]

who hacked shuo?

[drifting quest]

the rest of prydwen stuff is still

[thorn shore]

i still havent looked at new defense towers need to see if they make essence farming faster

[drifting quest]

not great

but the fangyi one is good

[thorn shore]

yesterday he put down his TC hat and became a casual

[honest hill]

that's abuse

[thorn shore]

probably before that but now hes like a depressed retired man

its funny to watch

[smoky quarry]

HE TURNED IN HIS BADGE AND PISTOL 😭

[tight haven]

cant blame anyone for quitting tc for a while especially if theyre f2p and cant keep up

it doesnt feel worth it to tc when the only thing worth tcing for is like

new players and speedruns

[honest hill]

yeah tc for people who have $$$

[thorn shore]

i want the best team for the sake of having the best team

even if i dont need it

[smoky quarry]

and lack of financial responsibilities

[drifting quest]

the only reason i used to do it was for fun and to help people

[rare zodiac]

48 cost tc

[drifting quest]

if the community were better id have kept doing it

[honest hill]

in other gachas they have media server to test stuff in idk if endfield has that

[smoky quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/slaysol-sad-depressed-wolf-gif-26432334

[drifting quest]

now i do it very casually for fun but there's not much point in that for a unit like fangyi

[tight haven]

dude fangyi's best set was so obvious

its kinda sad

full uge doesnt seem to have much benefit rn

[honest hill]

gimme ur credit card, I'll take care of it

[tight haven]

its just xiranslab

[thorn shore]

Maybe we have a problem as a society. Maybe we should fix what’s broken within us. Maybe the problem isn’t me. Maybe it’s you

[smoky quarry]

my credit card is empty, and I'm in debt of 1500 dollars now

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[rare zodiac]

because even if you have ult do you even have enough sp to pull that ult off

[honest hill]

maybe they'll keep making char specific sets w little to no variations

[drifting quest]

me when the pure sheet thing doesnt end up working in practical gameplay

[tight haven]

p much

[drifting quest]

it was more desperation for variety

[tight haven]

shes sp hungry and all the vgs she works with are fake

lol

[smoky quarry]

einstein thought that blackholes exist only in equations too

maybe we just don't get it

[tight haven]

if she had more sp return it could work but she doesnt

arclight is barely a vg

alesh is... alesh

[exotic crypt]

TC in this game is largely a meme when it’s just beating on irrelevant content while no actual difficult content exists yet

[honest hill]

we need a 6* vg

for arts

[tight haven]

we have one but hes phys-locked yeah

if she had a pog to work with that could be something

like another 100 sp to work with every 4 skills used

[rare zodiac]

even then Pog barely regen any sp more than Arc/Alesh

[drifting quest]

something something a mans cope

[tight haven]

you would use fake pog + arc then yeah

[thorn shore]

race to see who has the fastest hydrogen bomb to kill the coughing baby faster

[honest hill]

yeah a 6* elec vg

maybe one day they'll make a gilberta but duration of zfy ult

[tight haven]

gilb doesnt really need to be tbh

well it would be nice if her ult's duration was longer

i suppose

[drifting quest]

can you imagine

a world with like

10s gilb ult

[honest hill]

I mean like sp less w a way longer ult duration but not as strong ig

[tight haven]

she is sp-less already

[honest hill]

like w arde u need to use sp

[tight haven]

tbf

[honest hill]

so it's bad for the team

[tight haven]

oh i getcha

[smoky quarry]

imagine if p5 gilbert was that

[honest hill]

gilb ult duration is too short

[smoky quarry]

holy whale bait

[honest hill]

[rare zodiac]

until that long ass ult give only like 15susc

[honest hill]

how much does gilb one give

[thorn shore]

me complaining about difficulty talking bout buffing gilb

[rare zodiac]

30 susc, 3 more each vul

[honest hill]

maybe they could make elec one w 20% susc

[rare zodiac]

if you want to compare, Arde EBS give 20 susc

[tight haven]

54% at p2 mind you

[honest hill]

they could make sp less arde but work only for elec team

or elec/heat

[rare zodiac]

Antal give 15 susc for 100sp

[thorn shore]

pls just be 3 support 6 stars in a row

dont need anymore dps banners

[rare zodiac]

best i can do is Antal

[honest hill]

like uh combo skill would increase lv of electrification and some susc then ult more susc and reapplies elec

[honest hill]

is he even good for the team

[rare zodiac]

sound like a super specific caster

[honest hill]

I feel like eventually everyone will be super specific

maybe some will be universal

[rare zodiac]

hope they never go that route tho

[tribal sedge]

anyone done calcs on qingbo set for tangtang compared to bonekrusha yet?

[rare zodiac]

i quit Wuwa because of that

[honest hill]

just wait till 2.0 there will be changes

[thorn shore]

despite it just being bc none of fangyis teammates are that good now i do like that we have the options

lots of 3/4 slot op options

only one locked, which tbh isnt even locked for certain speedrunners, is perl

[honest hill]

I been playing WuWa whole time

[daring dove]

looks like level 3 for the second outpost isn't in the game yet regardless of if it's in the files. Unless you're just time-gating content?

[tough nest]

how much faster is zf rot with xira arm artificed? considering it for comfort play

[honest hill]

might have to wait for it

[tight haven]

not meaningfully faster to be honest

it is about 2 bs faster on average from my playing around with it

[rare zodiac]

you get ult faster but not enough sp anyways

[tight haven]

but you're not gonna be killing stuff faster because of the sheer sp deficit

[honest hill]

so it's cooked

lol

[bronze plume]

might be when next area is

[high finch]

lol why when i'm looking for delieveries in wuuling its absolutely zero ones

[tight haven]

shes so sp-hungry man

[tight haven]

new update dried them out

[tough nest]

damn that's a shame

[tight haven]

you still have to refresh a lot

[honest hill]

having no sp to use during ult sucks for her

[tough nest]

i think it's their only way to not make her straight up better than lav in all situations

[honest hill]

so prob stick to slab lol

[tight haven]

yeah im like

just going back to playing w laev lol

[rare zodiac]

so if you go in ult with like 100sp or something, you are in for a bad time, especially in 1 van/no van comp

[tight haven]

fangyi is sooooo clumsy

the frustrating part is that i just know theyre releasing a support that fixes this issue for her

[high finch]

we just need pog+gilberta all in one character and we good

buffs+sp generator 6*

[honest hill]

just like they did with yvonne lol

[bronze plume]

a support 6 star that just mogs vanguards

[daring dove]

Have to refresh like 10-20 times it's a dumb system.

[smoky quarry]

a support that is also best sub-dps

[tough nest]

i hope 1.3 is 2 banners and a free character for her lol

[honest hill]

but Yvonne really needed it

[high finch]

and it will be N1 choice for any elemental team in the game for years

[tough nest]

hard to believe we are getting 3 banners

[rare zodiac]

or a van with buff that put support in shame

[hollow swan]

for this effect on Fangyi combo do we know if it's applying a new electrification or if it's just upgrading the current one? i feel like this matters for how im gearing Perli. like how relevant her arts intensity is.

[bronze plume]

they call her Wis'adel

[sterile moat]

irrelevant because it gets instantly eaten by fangyi

[rare zodiac]

it replace

[honest hill]

I honestly think the 3 banners in 1.0 was just for the gacha system because u lose to 2 other limited characters

[high finch]

but even now without hypothetical 6* uber sp generator+buffer support

zf is op

[tough nest]

yaeh hopefully

[rare zodiac]

also yeah, instantly eaten

[honest hill]

yes better than Yvonne

[hollow swan]

yeah i guess you're right. it gets eaten before the damage happens.

[high finch]

being better than yvonne is not an achievement

[frigid vector]

no hate on yvonne she's actually really good esp post tangtang

has some of the records on re-crisis and

[honest hill]

but pre tt and without gilb is just oof

[frigid vector]

well before some of the anti-shill

with latest umbral being pure rossi

she was doing good too

[chilly bolt]

when applying new electrification it will comepletely overwrite the elec before it

[frigid vector]

pre tt and without gilb

she isn't a character tbh...

[honest hill]

her teammates are carrying her

yeah

[hollow swan]

so its probably better to build Perli for damage rather than ai

[honest hill]

in zfy team her teammates are there for morale support

[high finch]

i've being playing with laev and phys team since 1.0 and saved all my pulls for this patch and i feel like i used a gun and they gave me a nuke. she feels extremely powerful. now waiting for some future good characters. I also got rossi but i dunno if it's worth building her without sig if i already have laev but i can steal r5 bp from chen for her

[honest hill]

just like in leva team

[frigid vector]

her teams are mostly just 4-5 stars cause it's clear it's a yvonne moment where she's missing something

gilb is only good cause she's sp neutral 😔

her buff kinda sucks considering zfy ult is 25s

[drifting quest]

ihateitihateitihateit

[honest hill]

lol yeah

[frigid vector]

but it's good enough

[drifting quest]

stop making a problem to sell a solution

[frigid vector]

because she's so sp hungry

[hollow swan]

oh wth qingbo is also ai on the int pieces 😕

[frigid vector]

yeah it is very

"buy mi fu to make zfy gigabroki"

but at least she's broki even without it

[honest hill]

but that's how devs make u pull

[frigid vector]

just kinda uncomfortable for short fights

[drifting quest]

its a low effort way to do it

[rare zodiac]

both of ZF and Lae team is pretty much wheelchaired by them

[daring dove]

A lot of those records are when you start your timer from first hit (AKA precasting your ult) though. For me it's a bit of a mad category as you're actually taking longer than LR to kill the enemy. But pretending the instance didn't start until you punched the enemy in the face. I haven't looked at all her records though maybe she holds some without the pre-cast nonsense.

[tight haven]

frustrating teambuilding

[frigid vector]

considering we keep getting 2-phase bosses with ruan yi and spoiler boss

she's doing well

[frigid vector]

I'm not talking rho

[tight haven]

yeah her dps like laev is super consistent

[frigid vector]

rossi's got that one

[high finch]

is it actually a problem? yeah you don't have bis support to make her even more busted but even without it she's super strong i feel like every content we have is gonna be super easy with her. untill we get an actual endgame which as og ak players say is not a joke

[drifting quest]

its the most mindnumbing low effort slop appoach to unit design

[sterile moat]

yea, on load makes more sense

[honest hill]

not as bad as Yvonne

[frigid vector]

but marble and I think ruan yi? she was acing

marble for sure

was there a sub 47s clear

besides yvonne

[outer ermine]

thats old news noone does no hp runs anymore aside from low pots

[drifting quest]

yes because
A) bad precedent
B) boring
C) anti f2p which is arguably the most important playerbase
etc etc

[honest hill]

but it's the easiest way, why do sanity tickets exist? other game that have double do it for free same shit lol

[tight haven]

im not mad abt the sanity tickets

[drifting quest]

listing another problem with the game does not justify this one

[tight haven]

they give out so much

they really might as well just remove it

i cant run out even if i tried atp

[drifting quest]

whale gap i run out all the time

[tight haven]

o

damn

[drifting quest]

at least before the new monthly

[high finch]

yeah i know how shitty it can become. like in wuwa when 1 character is like absolute shit without another one and with it it's giga strong

[outer ermine]

she holds marble and ruan
lr holds dorito
rossi rhod

but yvonne is more competitive on umbral this time around cuz of brute force

[bronze plume]

i got 144 from the mail so im chilling for a while

[frigid vector]

ok guess I'm still up to date

[exotic crypt]

especially when dupes are as weak as they are in this game relative to most other gachas

[drifting quest]

its like 8 per run and bp + monthly used to get like 150-200 a patch

[frigid vector]

tbh I'd expect zfy

[drifting quest]

you'd burn like 80-160 a week

[tight haven]

fangyi's are probably the strongest dps dupes in the game

[frigid vector]

to take ruan yi and spoiler boss

[exotic crypt]

They’re going to need to make new characters be the solution to new problems or be straight up busted to get you to pull

[tight haven]

and theyre still not that strong

[outer ermine]

um3-3 this time around is pretty close aside from rossi peaking 20

[frigid vector]

not sure her ult would last long enough for dorito

[honest hill]

they shouldn't exist to begin with, imagine being F2P and u got no sanity tickets ur dailies take way longer than a whale because they can do double but u can't lol

[ocean saffron]

why would you use sanity tickets on anything but boss farms, the other zones take 15 seconds

[tight haven]

overall it's just a ~40% performance increase?

[drifting quest]

im glad fangyi pots ended up being worse than predicted

but they're still ridiculous

[frigid vector]

3-3 on yvonne? or zfy

tbh fangyi are the strongest pots in the game no?

or at least that I remember nothing has such an increase

[exotic crypt]

Sanity tickets shouldn’t exist but let’s not pretend that your dailies are that much longer

[tight haven]

yeah

[drifting quest]

i dont farm bosses to begin with
i spend mine on essence farms because i afk them anyway

[frigid vector]

she's got the same lae ult reduction brokenness too

[tight haven]

laev's are about as good also

[exotic crypt]

It’s the difference of like 2 minutes

[frigid vector]

except more stats/dmg on p1/p5

[tight haven]

yep

[drifting quest]

i do want pots to be more like fangyi p3

but not too extreme

[tight haven]

fangyi p3 is awesome

[drifting quest]

qol upgrades that can matter

[tight haven]

just good qol

[honest hill]

it still matters at least for ppl who play multiple gachas

[rare zodiac]

qol pot is cool

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

as long as they dont start taking what should be base kit qol and locking it behind a pot

[tight haven]

even if its not a meaningful dps boost

[bronze plume]

Enion you know what quest is the urban development hall water area stuff or is that just a puzzle

[honest hill]

what does her P3 do?

[tight haven]

i have not run into it yet

[drifting quest]

guy at the entrance

[exotic crypt]

if you are mentally ill enough to play multiple gachas that’s a you problem for running out of time to do dailies

[tight haven]

oh

[exotic crypt]

[drifting quest]

its a like

[rare zodiac]

extend blade duration, some sp return

[drifting quest]

baker text message

to start it

[tight haven]

ohhhh

[honest hill]

That's like a shit load of ppl ngl

[tight haven]

thats why

[normal tangle]

what are your thoughts on gilb p2

[exotic crypt]

I didn’t stutter did I?

[honest hill]

I only play two

[drifting quest]

i grabbed them all when i had to do the msq one

[bronze plume]

im cooked then no idea what one it is

[honest hill]

nah ur right fr fr

[tight haven]

gilb p2 and lifeng p1 are my examples of unhealthy pots

[drifting quest]

good example of what a later tier pot should be

unhealthy as a low pot

but fine as like a p5

[honest hill]

Yeah more chars need qol than just do more damage

[tight haven]

not because theyre obscenely strong or anything but because they're beginning to move toward what i feel to be something that should be baked into an op

like rotation changes

[frigid vector]

didn't they

increase the glow of p5 weapons

[tight haven]

yes

[frigid vector]

it seems like they're gonna play up to whales more

[honest hill]

like imagine zfy had reduced battle skill sp cost

[tight haven]

for delivery and scathe

[drifting quest]

ideally like
p1 qol
p2 dam inc
p3 stat
p4 energy
p5 big dam increase

[normal tangle]

she does

[drifting quest]

would be potential structure i like

[normal tangle]

sp return on p3

[tight haven]

AND they released more arsenal token whale packs

lmao

[frigid vector]

tbh

that's because even whales

couldn't p5 weapons

[tight haven]

yeah

[normal tangle]

what’s the difference between between 2 and 3 here

[outer ermine]

ruan is hard tbh, both lr and yvonne kills first phase at 30s, phase 3 w prestacked 2 cryo lr can oneshot, yvonne just needs bs+gil and xai ult. both for 64 but ofc easier w yvonne

[tight haven]

dude thats me

thats literally me

fuckin p4 delivery

i bought out every pack

[frigid vector]

is the new pack like

[tight haven]

it drives me fucking nuts

[frigid vector]

on top of the existing x10

[tight haven]

yes

$50 for like

uhh

5k?

i think?

[outer ermine]

5.23

[tight haven]

i bought them and forgor

right

[honest hill]

sp return ≠ reduced battle skill cost, also that sp is fake sp

[bronze plume]

$50 usd for 20 pulls

[tight haven]

and you can buy it 3 times

[bronze plume]

W

[tight haven]

we are down that bad fr

[normal tangle]

isn’t it 4

[tight haven]

no

its like 2.5

[normal tangle]

oh hell yeah man

sick

[bronze plume]

at that point id just spend the $50 on character pulls and hope i get 2 6 stars in 40 lol

[tight haven]

sorry

2.64 pulls

👍

rounding up slightly

[honest hill]

that's sad

[normal tangle]

unironically might be worth to spend on a standard banner 10pull if near pity

[tight haven]

the arsenal issue is cooked but i do not fucking care atp

[drifting quest]

im glad that endfield paid packs suck

[tight haven]

im just p0ing weaps from now on

[drifting quest]

id have been more tempted to swipe a few times if they were good

[tight haven]

pulling on arsenal actually just ragebaits me

[honest hill]

it's really bad

[tight haven]

i love when getting a 6* feels the same as getting a 5*

its so cool

[honest hill]

let me convert oro to arsenal tickets

[bronze plume]

the fact the more value packs only show up after buying the worst ones

[honest hill]

pls i beg

[thorn shore]

only good bundle is the 10 pulls for $15

that ones dope

[bronze plume]

20k oro for 1980 arsenal

[tight haven]

its sick

[drifting quest]

FOUR WEDGES
NO THERM NO CHIV NO DETO

[exotic crypt]

Not if you’re tangtang or rossi

[drifting quest]

IM NOT MAD IM NOT MAD IM NOT MAD

[normal tangle]

just play yvonne 🔥

[honest hill]

atp js don't pull weps anymore

[normal tangle]

it’s destined to be

[drifting quest]

IM SO GLAD THERMITE CUTTER EXISTS IN THE WEEKLY ROTATION AND WERE NOT GETTING THIRD APPEARANCES OF WEAPONS

[bronze plume]

fine do you a deal 19,999 oro for 1981 arsenal

[exotic crypt]

Most of the other p5s that aren’t limited weapons are just more colorful

sundered prince becomes more red and less grey

[normal tangle]

stanza p5 is neat

[exotic crypt]

JET has more blue lines

[drifting quest]

THEY WOULD NEVER BLOAT WEEKLY ROTATION WITH RERUNS UPON RERUNS

[honest hill]

that trick actually works on ppl which is why a lot of things u buy are XX.99

[normal tangle]

stanza might be the only good looking non-sig

[honest hill]

[exotic crypt]

gg I missed detonation unit

[normal tangle]

isn’t may 14 when gilb banner starts

[exotic crypt]

While on vacation

[normal tangle]

coincidental chiv surely

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah there's a lot that are

made for rate up banner

some are bait

like rascent left right as rossi banner started iirc

[honest hill]

in one of the wep banners you'll whale on it'll be there

[exotic crypt]

This got a nice glow up but too bad it’s a shit weapon

[outer ermine]

whel

[drifting quest]

but 3 weapons having 0 appearances and then GL giving some their 2nd rerun is just

why

[exotic crypt]

In all the banners they appeared on so far, I got a grand total of 2

[hollow swan]

surely it willl be relevant eventually

[honest hill]

lmao

2

[normal tangle]

wnn leaves right as mifu joins this means she requires her sig

like that one guy was talking about last night

[smoky quarry]

Nice pfp you got there 🥲

[drifting quest]

no thermite means they're saving it for a new vanguard

[exotic crypt]

Here’s sundered prince in case anyone wants to see

[drifting quest]

no jet means avy players are even more in shambles

no wedge so it can appear on every single weapon banner till the end of time

[bronze plume]

they dont exist anymore

well no they do

[smoky quarry]

looks like 5 star

[bronze plume]

they wouldnt want a electric dps thats this brainrottedly easy to use

[smoky quarry]

avy players had free spear in one weapon box

[drifting quest]

aware

[lyric latch]

so we are getting Thermite only when Arcane wakes up

[thorn shore]

the 6 star premium vanguard with skills synergizing with specifically fangyi is next banner

has to be

it is

[smoky quarry]

there's no limit to man's cope

[exotic crypt]

Gilberta sig also became very red

[normal tangle]

if they do make a premium vanguard at some point i’d be curious to see how they’d make sig better than thermite

[high finch]

i hope it's not that vampire theme dude

i want to skip him

[normal tangle]

actually nvm they could just be not a sword unit

[thorn shore]

the back to back theory right you always put supports back to back to drain our money right shes next right

supports next

it has to be

[smoky quarry]

looks like vivian sidekick guy from zzz

[drifting quest]

pog case but a better buff than nr

they just make it specific to the element the vanguard shills for

[thorn shore]

the forbidden texts dare say he is fire support

[smoky quarry]

they lowkey made nr worse than off-rate leg

[drifting quest]

if the vg is generic they prob force its conditional into being something only the new vg can do

[thorn shore]

since the reddit of forbidden texts got nuked where do yall go to hear rumors now

i have no clue

where to find them

[exotic crypt]

The voices in my head

[bronze plume]

if you are talking about leaks

stfu :)

[thorn shore]

nono

rumors

[normal tangle]

make its sp gen be a massive burst that happens once every 20s so you can’t double stack thermite buff

tech

[frigid vector]

btw how many of the new arsenal bundles can you even get

[warped sorrel]

PLEASE HG WHERE IS MY THERMITE

[rare zodiac]

50sp regen CS but 30s cd

[drifting quest]

endfield leaks are not real

[frigid vector]

is it 3 only or does it reset like the standard

[exotic crypt]

Which ones, the $50 ones?

[drifting quest]

its just people posting fake shit for clout

[frigid vector]

ye

I'm p5ing mifu come hell or high water

so I gotta know if I need to prestock

[normal tangle]

worse sp than arclight

[exotic crypt]

Limit says 3, I only needed to buy 1

[frigid vector]

I haven't really been whaling in the game so far

[exotic crypt]

But my guess is there’s no more after

[frigid vector]

so idk if

the existing bundles +loaded would be enough

[exotic crypt]

Since it roughly maths out to how much you could buy previously

[frigid vector]

guess it'll depend on my luck

[thorn shore]

the only real one was when hypergryph had rossi and tangtang in the operators tab of the message thing before their banners

[drifting quest]

datamine not leak

[thorn shore]

it was just in the game

they leaked themselves

[drifting quest]

wasnt accessible in client afair

maybe it was

[exotic crypt]

also, fangyi sig is very green at p5

[drifting quest]

point was it wasnt a leak

[frigid vector]

that is indeed

very green

environmentally friendly character

[normal tangle]

true

[high finch]

it's radioactive

[rare zodiac]

radioactive lightnight is crazy

[exotic crypt]

Artzy glows blue also

[thorn shore]

ye after someone told me abt it i went and looked and saw them in my message app it was hilarious, then they said that they removed them in patch notes like "dont look over here guys these are NOT the next operators"

[exotic crypt]

A bit more subtle

[craggy pond]

if i wanna run like a sub dps perlica build with qingbo & oblivion should i just do lynx

[outer ermine]

oh wait i forgor rossi holds dorito now too but both 43~ lr and rossi

[normal tangle]

yvonne p5 also gets random strands of hair that glow blue for some reason

[drifting quest]

fwiw we basically knew anyway

[daring dove]

Depends on luck it's quite easy to run out of Arsenal tickets even after buying out all the bundles with with anything less than average/good luck. Even after you have P5'ed the character if you're going for weapon dupes.

[drifting quest]

there was tons of stuff in 1.0 files

the same way they sort of kinda just spoiled 1.3

[craggy pond]

her gear options are so messy for fangyi outside of the set effect

[frigid vector]

ugh guess since weapon banners

last for 3 banners after

[exotic crypt]

All 6* operators at p5 get a small visual change

[frigid vector]

I can just go for the bundles that follow worse case

[normal tangle]

no i know, but yvonne’s is weird

[exotic crypt]

It’s one of the more obvious ones

[normal tangle]

she just gets blue hairs out of nowhere

[exotic crypt]

I like it

[normal tangle]

not related to her design at all

[daring dove]

Yeah it's only a massive problem if you're trying to P5-P5 characters back to back.

[exotic crypt]

It’s probably to match her sig

[thorn shore]

fangyi gets some frosted tips apparently

[frigid vector]

if mifu does end up being perfect fangyi partner

I might just need to 😔

but then I'll do it with the current bundles

[tropic oasis]

Highlights on the underside of her hair

[outer ermine]

me w lr tt gil yvonne rossi moment

i hate this game

[normal tangle]

do you think they’d buff the best unit in the game even more

[sterile moat]

Skipping zfy?

[normal tangle]

not like hg cares about character balance actually

[tropic oasis]

They sort of glow I guess, but its subtle

[exotic crypt]

This is why I’m buying the last 2 $50 packs

[outer ermine]

it was actually lucky that i pretty much 500 all of them so i had enough arsenal everytime

[exotic crypt]

In case next banner I lose hard on

[outer ermine]

[frigid vector]

absolutely yes

[thorn shore]

are we saying fangyi is better than rossi

[frigid vector]

that's kinda the gacha standard

[thorn shore]

i got some words for you man

[outer ermine]

not playing her

[frigid vector]

I'm pretty sure that once we get CC

or any tanky fights

[outer ermine]

waiting for vamp boi

[frigid vector]

she'll mog the rest of the cast

[daring dove]

I haven't bought those 5k packs yet an I'm still carrying this over to the next banner. Weapon banner truly blessed me this time.

[normal tangle]

usually gachas at least wait a patch or two 💔

[frigid vector]

rossi's burst queen though

still remember

everyone telling me rossi was shit

because she was split element

[thorn shore]

maybe, fangyi rotations a bitch tho

long

[frigid vector]

my nose pointing to the sky rn

[thorn shore]

for now

[frigid vector]

they are but that's the problem

[outer ermine]

pretc moment

[frigid vector]

she kills everything before her ult state is even like

halfway done

[drifting quest]

artificially brick her with natural sp regen down tag and ult cost up tags, i guess

[exotic crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243600189768601660/1361540942913605792/togif-7.gif

[drifting quest]

240% uge fangyi build

[tight haven]

only 3

it might reset?

we dunno

[outer ermine]

it has duration so maybe

[tight haven]

these packs arent even announced anywhere that i can tell

[rare zodiac]

with just like 50% sp regen Fang is already ded

[tight haven]

yeah

hg is like

reinventing korean mmo whalebait

from first principles

[frigid vector]

if they nerf SP regen but increase SP gen from vanguards

it's ok

arclight can do her job

[drifting quest]

i really do pray

[frigid vector]

but if it's just sp down generally it's doomed

then again so are most chars

[drifting quest]

that they give us both positive and negative tags

in cc

[frigid vector]

sp regen in this game generally feels sluggish

[normal tangle]

no natural sp generation, +50% sp gained from sp recovery

aura

[rare zodiac]

but Fang will be doom^2

[drifting quest]

if its just pick debuffs for allied chars and buffs for enemies then its gonna be so miserable

[bronze plume]

does heavy xiranite bottles use cuprium or ferrium

[normal tangle]

it uses whatever you want i’m pretty sure

use cryston, go bananas

[craggy pond]

idr the specific calcs but if i p4 fangyi then i basically don't need to worry about uge period right ig unless i wanna go for 2 rotations ult or something

[daring dove]

I wasn't so sure on her on pre-release, but yeah after trying her she really clicked with me. Really easy to play great damage for me the top 3 characters are still Gilberta / Rossi / Tangtang. Fangyi didn't change that at all.

[frigid vector]

yeah I feel very vindicated with rossi

the amount of "prydwen t0 rossi what are they smoking" angle I saw

meanwhile record holder and absolutely demolishing umbrals

[sterile moat]

P4 fangyi needs like 5 skills to enter ult with 1 uge kit

[frigid vector]

even at p0 mind you

flex char too

which isn't something we can say for the other dps like zfy

[sterile moat]

Which you can do within 17s or so

[exotic crypt]

I see new character I pull, no vindication needed

[frigid vector]

based

I'd do the same but I juggle 2 gachas

so I gotta pick and choose...

[exotic crypt]

But please for fucks sake release actual content and endgame

[frigid vector]

TRUE

re crisis speedrunning is so ass

I'm tired of farming meats bro

[outer ermine]

holo fund my zfy all my dps are st im doomed for cc if theres mobs

[craggy pond]

is it worth losing the dmg over, i feel like the standard 600sp rotation is good enough

[exotic crypt]

I’m willing to tolerate the game being dry for the first few months of its existence but not forever

[drifting quest]

its insane her zero to hero climb from the 1.1 devlog to a couple weeks post release

[frigid vector]

oh right

if you went lr/yvonne/rossi hifumi

very aoe gated rn...

[sterile moat]

By the time you enter 600sp rota 17s later boss is dead by the uge kit

[exotic crypt]

Same and the other one is Granblue

[outer ermine]

tt mdps is the only way lmao

[exotic crypt]

[frigid vector]

wait granblue enjoyer? holy based

[exotic crypt]

rip wallet

[frigid vector]

sparking in gbf is a fucking scam

but at least most units aren't really worth rolling

the amount of seasonals we've gotten that are hella mid

[exotic crypt]

I’m like

[craggy pond]

does this account for the mismatch since we're basically cutting off 1 infliction altogether

[frigid vector]

everything is insanely niche

[exotic crypt]

Close to $100k in the hole on gbf over 8 years

[craggy pond]

so she gets less energy from both combo & bs

[sterile moat]

Basically its going for 3 perlica cs right?

[frigid vector]

made sure they hit the 10 year anni

[craggy pond]

it would be 3 perlica cs, 3 fangyi cs, 2 perlica bs, 3 fangyi bs

so it caps out at 8 blades

[exotic crypt]

They’ll last to the 20th easily

Game is impossible to die

[craggy pond]

well ig if you count p1 then it's still 9 blades

[sterile moat]

Yea with uge kit you can enter it within 2 perlica cs at 8 blades with 500 sp, so a whole 17s faster which the boss will be dead by then

At p4 at least

[frigid vector]

cockroach game indeed

[daring dove]

Getting so close to maxing every 6* operator now.

[warped sorrel]

Staying here make me realise i should have pull everyone

[exotic crypt]

gg endmin

[torn pilot]

guys i really think the zhuang tangtang agenda is cooking

its working rlly well for me

im using antal on the team to trigger arts burst for tangtang combo -> tangtang battle skill

[exotic crypt]

I only have ardelia out of the regular pool maxed

[torn pilot]

and ofc for everything else

[sterile moat]

I should try tt zfy also

[craggy pond]

for a moment i wished i had tangtang yesterday because i didn't deal enough stagger

[craggy pond]

well ig it's something to consider when i get there

[sterile moat]

Det unit perlica for rossi zfy is so dead, the rotation sucks

[torn pilot]

yeah it works a bit more intuitively than i expected, rn im using fangyi + antal + tangtang + perlica

[sterile moat]

Any video of a run during 0 ult?

[daring dove]

To be honest 1.2 just seems like a nothing burger patch in terms of meta shift. For me this remains the best team for whales & it's really not close.

[torn pilot]

nah i dont have one

[daring dove]

I'm still enjoying Fangyi though.

[neat snow]

I need to learn new teams:(

[sterile moat]

I will make rossi zfy work...

[exotic crypt]

Now that I see lupine from that view model

Is it more purple

[neat snow]

But I don't know what I want to play

[exotic crypt]

[chilly bolt]

The gains on rossi pots and her sig pots are crazy

[winged delta]

How's Fangyi powerwise. Went in hibernation this 1.2 patch.

[exotic crypt]

Someone post a p0 lupine

Or I’ll go look in another channel

[torn pilot]

is rossi p1 good? i was able to get a dupe on my way to fangyi pitty

[chilly bolt]

It's p5 yes

[sterile moat]

Its like ok

[torn pilot]

strange to hear you say its not close, i see a lot of people saying fangyi damage is just a lot better than other dps options

[daring dove]

Good, but feels like she's a potential character right now. We're waiting for a premium support to go alongslide her. If you want to play it safe I'd just not wish for her until we see 1.3 livestream.

[outer ermine]

u can do it

[frigid vector]

idk I genuinely feel zfy is one of those