theorycrafting

[bronze plume]

just get gilberta on the rerun

did you get her in the 43

[earnest patio]

Yep

[bronze plume]

W

we love gambling

(children over the age of 18 blah blah dont gamble)

over?

under

[earnest patio]

Exactly

43 pulls

[bronze plume]

W

[earnest patio]

Age I am way over it

Dw

[bronze plume]

you will have enuf to guarantee gilberta if you want her at least

[bronze plume]

ok unc

[earnest patio]

Not that old

Still a uni student

[bronze plume]

mid 20s headahh

[earnest patio]

Meh autocorrect

[bronze plume]

older then me is unc status or someshit like that

[earnest patio]

Okay perlica done so which one should I level up then

[dry kindle]

are you having fun yet

[earnest patio]

Arc/alesh

Antel/avy

[bronze plume]

personally

id do arclight and antal

[bronze plume]

ive decided 1.5/m is the best we got

[dry kindle]

im doing 0

[bronze plume]

my 5 digit hours in satisfactory did not sign me up for quad negative income of needed resources

[dry kindle]

and i still dont have enough

[bronze plume]

on the bright side

i can zap stuff with fangyi

dont know how tf she actually properly works

and idc to read yet

so im just zapping shit when i see her skill flash and they die

and that

is a W

[clear iris]

yeah

i got no clue how to use her

i don't even have a team set

they're all level 1

[drifting berry]

I'm just glad that you don't need to spam left click

piss pool

[dry mason]

@dry kindle do you even want to use Arclight's BS

seem consume lots of SP

and waste of time

[dreamy cave]

does zhuang needs to apply her electrification into perlica's electrification for the status level + 1 to work.. or it would still work if its the other way around?

[dry kindle]

former

if latter perlica just replaces zfy electrification

[earnest patio]

What skill to level up for that new char

Fangyi

[drifting berry]

Can't wait for her banner on 3.0 anniversary

[drifting berry]

BS>=Combo>Ult>Basics

[upbeat reef]

I'm building Avywenna (main DPS) and noticed how all her builds don't use Lynx Slab as offpiece. Why? It have will main stat and even more will in substat. That's so much extra attack. Wouldn't it be much better to use lynx slap as offpiece instead of glove offpiece? Does anyone have her gear calculations? Is her build just outdated and were written before putting Lynx on everyone become a trend?

[earnest patio]

So should I d9 everything 9 or leave basics at lvl 1

[dry mason]

no joke now i have to raise Antal ? @dry kindle

[drifting berry]

She's you main dps and while her basic don't represent a big portion of her damage I would still get them to lvl 9, unless you are really low on resources. Maybe lvl 6 if you don't want to spend much

[dry kindle]

just use gilberta and 1 shot boss

[earnest patio]

2 circle is battle skill third is combo skill right?

[drifting berry]

I think that is the case

[dry kindle]

your fault

[earnest patio]

fine??

what is the domain for her weapon gear

[drifting berry]

The one of Valley IV first area

the hub or something like that

You can farm both bp and signature there

[languid gale]

What is the best early gear for Fang yi before I could claim the new gear set?

[drifting berry]

You can use Xiarite gloves and kit. Bonecrusher armor early.

All the ones that have energy recharge

[languid gale]

Okay, thanks a lot.

[drifting berry]

You still want the new gear tho

[teal pawn]

wait till CC bans caster and supporters we'd just be playing phys comp instead

[thorn shore]

Ok boys what’s the team most of you agreed upon

[dry kindle]

zfy perlica arclight

just trio the boss

[drifting berry]

This is the one that you want

[thorn shore]

Why are we still tryna make arclight work I hate her

Do not like her in this team still

[drifting quest]

You dont have to run arclight

But the extra elec on arc ult helps

[dry kindle]

fund my p5 arclight

[drifting quest]

A decent chunk

Fund my p3 fangyi

[dry kindle]

fuck you

whel

[drifting berry]

You don't like combo spam?

[dry kindle]

i want a refund

[drifting quest]

I was debating chasing p1 lol

[languid gale]

Got it, I'm just starting the quest atm. Hope it's not too long

[thorn shore]

We let it turn into electrification or we trying to consume it as elec?

[drifting quest]

You consume it as elec

[dry kindle]

i was considering it before my pulls happened

[drifting quest]

Ok come back when it happens 2 more times in a row

[thorn shore]

It’s huge but like at the end of the day it’s still the same as the rest of it, the price of a extra unit for a power boost

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

Double vg with alesh ake works

Or VG Antal

[drifting berry]

Will wait for her rerun for P1 honestly. Not risking the 50/50

[drifting quest]

Or VG Gilb

[hardy rose]

Is it worth weaving in a perlica battle skill there for lvl 2? In between the delay

[drifting quest]

Generally no

Sometimes yes

[thorn shore]

Also people don’t like Antal??? You can get 2 elec for 100sp which is pretty nice if we’re so desperate to the point we’re using arclight ult for elec

When I played for all of the 2 hours I had on release I ended up with perlica Antal Gil being my favorite

Maybe ake instead of Gil depending on if she needs SP during ult

To keep cs bs spam

[hardy rose]

Gotcha

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

Mostly just the realisation in practical gameplay spending sp on anyone that isnt fangyi sucks balls

[nova lance]

So gilb is not bis?

[dry kindle]

would try qingbo perlica if i wasnt homeless

[drifting quest]

Too early to say

[nova lance]

Wuts the current rot rn?

[dry kindle]

usual just 1 shot the boss bis

[drifting quest]

Bis sucks as a concept anyway

[dry kindle]

mfw 0+1 marble

[drifting berry]

Gilberta can ult twice per ult rotation which is funny

[torn pilot]

Shuo you don’t think Antal will be on fanyi teams?

[thorn shore]

one must suck before you can fuck(the boss)

[dry kindle]

maybe the gilb 4th is real

[drifting quest]

He is on teams yes

[thorn shore]

shes still a pretty mid pick but like were so fucking broke

on teammates

[sturdy hill]

tfw

[drifting quest]

As always

It depends

Use what you want

[sturdy hill]

why rhod is in etchspace too

[thorn shore]

need all these mi fu phys rumors to be wrong and for mi fu to be fangyi support

[earnest patio]

Fangyi perlica arc and antal what should we weapon for others excepted fangyu

The one recommended in game

Is good enough?

[nova lance]

Sui will be the fangyi support

[thorn shore]

they both should be fangyi support

[nova lance]

Fr

[earnest patio]

Guys anyone?

[drifting berry]

Yeah, also 4th slot really doesn't matter as much

[nova lance]

Antal on deto, arc on thermite, wild wanderer on perli

[drifting berry]

The only one that is significantly worse is Avywenna in the 4th slot, tho that still like a 10% team damage lost

[earnest patio]

Don't have deto

[nova lance]

Selector

[earnest patio]

Akekuri is using thermite

Wb white night nova

[nova lance]

Swap

[earnest patio]

Okay

[nova lance]

Could also use obj

[drifting berry]

No wonder I was doing no damage lmao

been playing her like this for 3 hours

[dry kindle]

🗿

good job

[nova lance]

Is there any difference in using gilb than ake?

[drifting berry]

There are differences but ultimately both bring about the same/similar results.

I just like Gilberta because I got her signature and she can ult twice per ult rotation

don't know the energy gain breakpoint tho

[thorn shore]

her sig is dmg dealt tho

and we got a ton of that

[drifting berry]

This is the important part

[thorn shore]

stanza for atk sounds juicy

[drifting berry]

My Stanza is P1

xd

[thorn shore]

can she ult twice in fangyi ult u mean

or one outside one in

oh wait thats insane then

[drifting berry]

Twice during Fangyi ult

[thorn shore]

nvm screw stanza

more gil ults plz

[nova lance]

Where is antal in the 4th position ranking?

[earnest patio]

Man is there any better way to etch just lost over 100 essence over very low success rate

[nova lance]

[thorn shore]

@drifting berry do u run full ult gain gear or what?

[drifting berry]

Always do

[nova lance]

Coolant gel

[dry kindle]

spam till +5 then gel

[bronze plume]

https://youtu.be/RPIAmt41oG8?si=SV-foqTzpCu3_9gv i would like to show everyone this funny video from FrostByte

this is a theorycraft break

[thorn shore]

arts intensity is pretty chill cause she can apply corro

but if i need to say fuck it and run more ult gain so be it double ulting sounds insane

[drifting berry]

Honestly I don't know if she has any energy breakpoints

[thorn shore]

yeah idk ill take a look at it later

double ult is huge finding tho

gil meta never ends\

[dry kindle]

250 uge lets gilb 1cs 4bs ult

211.7 for 5bs

[thorn shore]

how many bs is in fangyi ult

[dry kindle]

4 or 5

[thorn shore]

so itd have to be 250 uge

cus u want to have 1 bs left to buff

[dry kindle]

does endaxis still not have zfy

[smoky quarry]

gear updates on iana doc when?

never?

[urban plaza]

iana quit

so never

[drifting berry]

rip iana

[urban plaza]

no endgame = no need to optimize builds

[thorn shore]

iana after seeing cc announcement fuming

[urban plaza]

i mean, maybe they come back if CC in 1.3 is good

but

well, we will see

so far all the endgame content has been very lackluster for tryhards

its def. focused towards casual gaming

[thorn shore]

just have to hope theyre still responsive

[drifting berry]

Hope cc lives up to expectations

[thorn shore]

i think theres been enough endgame complaints

to warrant them doing smth if that smth isnt cc

[dry kindle]

wouldnt really have expectations

but who knows

[urban plaza]

they did listen to lots of stuff, so there is at least some hope

[drifting berry]

Yeah devs have been doing a great job so far

[thorn shore]

benefit of the doubt they have some banger endgame hidden away but didnt wanna drop it till now lol

[dry kindle]

cc is just this isnt a stratergy game

so they better cook something

[drifting berry]

yeah, you cannot give invi to mobs, or remove tiles on this game

[alpine current]

my thoughts precisely

[drifting quest]

At best Iana said they might make a tiny wip section for fangyi

[bronze plume]

the generational flop that cc will be after experiencing all ccs in ak and them just slapping the name cc on it to hype the ak community will go down in history

[drifting quest]

But should prob ask a mod to unpin the doc

[dry kindle]

cant just slap tags on umbral

probably gonna be like 90% enemy design regardless of what they do

[drifting quest]

Esp with #1493499627830251530 as their intended replacement now

[dry kindle]

looks inside

2 cn posts

[bronze plume]

clearly iana should give the doc to someone trustworthy with it

like uhh

damn thats crazy

[dry kindle]

well ones translated but yeah

[bronze plume]

xiranite is recommended for fangyi it must be good the cn person said so

[dry kindle]

i mean

its basically p5 laev uge

but p0

[bronze plume]

she can proc the set effect

[bronze plume]

they be cooking

[drifting quest]

That's crazy

[dry kindle]

that too

[earnest patio]

Which skills to prioritize on perlica all lvl 9?

[bronze plume]

wtf is this bro

[dry kindle]

all lv1

[dry kindle]

.stop2

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[earnest patio]

Eh?

[drifting berry]

They even gave 2nd dash animation to Fangyi, pog powercreep

[earnest patio]

!?

[drifting berry]

Perlica without Oblivion is a lvl 1 all around

her damage is irrelevant without it

[earnest patio]

Even weapon?

Lvl 1

No etch?

[drifting quest]

[drifting berry]

Etch the 3rd stat if anything, maybe 2nd stat tho I'm not sure if it matter on fangyi teams

[bronze plume]

bro lock in

[drifting berry]

similar treatment as thermite cutter

[earnest patio]

Eh

[bronze plume]

im poor again

[drifting quest]

Its so much more fun here now

[bronze plume]

but i have 10 lvl 90 ops now

[drifting quest]

We just say things

[bronze plume]

i can go on another factory aic rant if you want

[thorn shore]

real measure of wealth is 663 essences have i mentioned how much i hate essences yet

i think i have, fuck essences

[bronze plume]

nice p5p5 bet i have more maxxed essences tho

type shit

guys

you can

[earnest patio]

Like i never built her can you show me your build i am confused

[bronze plume]

trim the medal for wuling aurylene and chests now

[bronze plume]

arclight?

[earnest patio]

Perlica arclight and antal

All three

Also fangya artifacts

[drifting quest]

The new stuff looked bad but then doesnt seem that bad after I actually did it

[bronze plume]

bros its so bad what do you mean

its like net negative x4 on cuprium

[dry kindle]

wheres my fuckin cuprium

[drifting quest]

Did you get the new ones

[bronze plume]

its like a wasteland

[drifting quest]

I was still positive on 1 component setup

[bronze plume]

bro

how tf

[dry kindle]

pov 0.5/min

[drifting berry]

I will get Oblivion as soon as it shows on shop so I'm preparing to build her for damage, also she got new gear and my build is not optimized at all

[drifting quest]

6 syringe 12 batt 1 compo

[bronze plume]

im not locked in

[earnest patio]

Wb fangya which artifacts?

[bronze plume]

im at 6/10 1.5

im so cooked

[nova lance]

Woah perli on deto?

[dry kindle]

1 hetonite/min comp is 80 cuprium

[bronze plume]

im doing something wrong im not locked in

[drifting berry]

She got a new gear set this patch, using this on the mean time

[bronze plume]

its 4am

[earnest patio]

Okay wb arclight and antal skills

[drifting berry]

Not using Wild Wanderer

[nova lance]

[drifting berry]

Antal no idea, I dislike him.

Arclight she has every skill at lvl 1

[bronze plume]

have you got 2 sky forges for heavy rest for reg?

[earnest patio]

Is there some guide I can follow

[bronze plume]

none up 2 date

[drifting berry]

Also haven't optimize her gear, guess who also got new gear on this patch

[bronze plume]

just

[earnest patio]

How do build then lot of questions to ask

[bronze plume]

do this for fangyi

[drifting berry]

Look in youtube, I win to lose gaming has a video which is decent enough

[bronze plume]

do this for arclight

[earnest patio]

I can unlock new gear or they need new components?

[drifting berry]

Superwide monitor

[dry kindle]

where slab

smh

[bronze plume]

have fun doing the new story and doing more factory hahahahaha

[bronze plume]

lore accurate

[dry kindle]

man wheres the frontiers uge kit

[bronze plume]

my setup consists of 2 superwide monitors and a potrait monitor

[chilly bolt]

no slab?

[fierce bane]

anyone know youtubers that actually do TC? I cant find anyone comparing lae teams to zhuang teams, they all just say "SHES SO GOOD!" 😂

[bronze plume]

you can use slab

[bold rose]

what's the offpiece kit for zfy or do u just run 4x xiranflow

[bronze plume]

if you are cringe

im not cringe

[bold rose]

slab again?

[bronze plume]

slab or a uge piece

either xiranite kit or bonekrusha body if want uge

[dry kindle]

its all slab

[bronze plume]

its all slab

and every team has gilberta

[chilly bolt]

im just done with aic stuff so now im here to ask for "fangyi best team and build"

[bronze plume]

who has slab on

[drifting berry]

Guobafield but he hasn't made a video for Fangyi yet.

Also Maygi (no video as well)

[drifting quest]

Lin as well

[bronze plume]

yeah the actually good tcer youtubers

[drifting quest]

This fangyi unit is indeed disgustingly good however

[bronze plume]

normally take a bit to get there videos out

[drifting quest]

Slab in top slot is like criminal

[bronze plume]

man

[drifting quest]

It goes in the bottom slot

[dry kindle]

smh imagine not having cc server access

[bronze plume]

bro we are NOT tcing who goes in what slot

[chilly bolt]

how is qingbo gear set on fangyi

[bronze plume]

i mean

[dry kindle]

7376 attack once i finish trust

[bronze plume]

im in servers with them

[dry kindle]

kinda funny

[drifting quest]

The slab goes in the SQUARE HOLE

[bronze plume]

not there servers

[dry kindle]

fuckin

[bronze plume]

thats a circle it has to be a oval

[dry kindle]

cc testing server

smh

[bronze plume]

oh

gang im not a cc

[dry kindle]

smh

[bronze plume]

i tried to twitch stream the cbt2

and failed

fuck having people watch me bro

[drifting quest]

Big CC dont even always get in

Maygi didnt get in 1.1

[bronze plume]

nobody would want to watch my sarcastic ass livestream stuff

[bronze plume]

but i got 1 Billion followers on the hub

they gotta know me

im Beef

[drifting quest]

I prefer chicken

[dry kindle]

welp

[bronze plume]

same (dont tell me tho)

[dry kindle]

back to having no idea what the fuck im doing

[drifting quest]

All vibes

[bronze plume]

icl

been starring at my aic for 2 hours

wondering

why tf

is it like this bruh

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

When was the last time any calcs were ever posted or linked in here

[bronze plume]

DO NOT let me cook

[dry kindle]

me like 12 hours ago probably

[bronze plume]

someone posted stuff from a cc i think

wintolose

i think ive heard of that person

[drifting quest]

Om

Thats

So funny

[bronze plume]

it was like fangyio weapon number thing

[bronze plume]

what is

a fish wearing pants?

[drifting quest]

Iwtl calcs being the stuff posted

[manic jay]

how reliable are the calcs from datafield ?

[bronze plume]

whats wrong with whomever that is

i know imma see like

500 other peoples aic and be like

"that looks so much nicer"

[drifting quest]

Depends on case

Some have issues some are fine

They've been made aware of the issues so may be fixed

[drifting quest]

Pretty poor track record from past gacha

[dry kindle]

wow thats a new one

[drifting quest]

At least in Genshin their content was banned from several TC communities for being terrible

[manic jay]

I guess don't blindly use them to compare teams

[drifting quest]

Could be better now

I havent interacted with it

[bronze plume]

do i cave

do i

watch the kyo 1.2 base build

am i chalked

[dry kindle]

fraud

[bronze plume]

fr tho

it just

looks so ugly bro

[distant python]

kyostinv bases are good

[thorn shore]

yall dont just use codes

fuck videos

ill give the new factory mechanics the good ol one over give up then copy and paste

[fierce bane]

when does cc come out

[distant python]

1.3

[bronze plume]

next patch maybe

[fierce bane]

figure ill wait on the team comparisons for that

[bronze plume]

it was part of the showcase for future content

[drifting quest]

Ask again when they tell us

[bronze plume]

we dont know if its 1.3 or not

just

Soon

[distant python]

1.3 prayge

[bronze plume]

cc in endfield will be the biggest letdown in ak community besides whatever that blaze skin was

[thorn shore]

seems pretty ez to make it succeed

do umbral monument but stack the modifiers from all the stages

boom

cc

[bronze plume]

to the average brain of a gacha gamer yes

[thorn shore]

ur welcome

[bronze plume]

if its music isnt on the quality of arknights ccs

its ass

if i dont hover over the menu of the cc in endfield

and im not hearing something like

BURN ME TO THE GROUND

dats ass

0/10

fruad cc behaviour

[thorn shore]

lmao

[drifting quest]

Speeding through the red lights

[bronze plume]

this guy gets it

now buy me more arsenal tickets

how do

i make this goofy mf be 12/6

[dry kindle]

Dupe cuprium

Duh

[bronze plume]

true

wheres my pistol and a chest

[chilly bolt]

Yes im on fire

[bronze plume]

pistol?

piston

[drifting quest]

I like most eps for endfield so far

[bronze plume]

they dont have enuf heavy metal esc tracks for me

im a 1 trick pony

[lime bear]

Fangyi M3 prio is BS > CS?

[river scroll]

so how are fangyi?

is her AoE good?

or she more on ST?

[drifting quest]

pretty stupid in both, moreso aoe

[river scroll]

I see...

[chilly bolt]

Do you think it's a concern with how recent ops being too op

[bronze plume]

normal in gachas like this

the real question will probably be if laevatain can still clear max risk cc

and if so how long can she

[river scroll]

I'm more concerned on cc being baby difficulty

[pliant basalt]

anyone have a fangyi perl arclight galb 2x ult rot

[drifting quest]

i am alarmed but not concerned

[tight haven]

my hot take is that fangyi doesnt seem like

too much more op than laev

[bronze plume]

this from the #1 whale NA

[tight haven]

shes insanely good but i think that both her laev are more or less in the same bracket of power

as it stands

[chilly bolt]

Idk she looks like laev powercreep to me

[tight haven]

shes really not

[lucid flower]

Whats better if im bad at saving starting rn and hoping for the best or wait till the pink hair girl and vampire dude release to start the game again?

[thorn shore]

two entirely diff elements

[drifting quest]

i cant drool over my keyboard with a gearless talentless laev and still clear at similar times

but i never tried to do that with laev

[thorn shore]

whats really gonna make fangyi or laev stronger is their upcoming support

[tight haven]

yeah

[drifting quest]

maybe its a p0p0 vs p5p5 thing but

man i hate this

[tight haven]

im talking p5p5 vs p5p5 yeah

laev at p5p5 is just a different op entirely in my purview due to how hard her ult spam build pops off

[thorn shore]

then we see how op rossi ST is but like thats a actually good team in terms of every char doing a lot

[tight haven]

fangyi could get a partner op that fixes her rotational quirks

[next helm]

I don't have her build at all yet

Does she do okay damage outside ult

[drifting quest]

its not bad out of ult

[tight haven]

that said i only got to play with p5p5 fangyi a bit and def not with optimal gear

[drifting quest]

better than expected

[tight haven]

she deals great damage outside of ult

[smoky quarry]

Who is the most potential unit now?

[next helm]

Or do you hit auto attack worth of damage with elec and Bskill

[tight haven]

tbh her damage is just super consistent

[next helm]

Nice lovely

[drifting quest]

i hate it i hate it i hate it

she's fun though

[tight haven]

shes fun but her numbers are as broken as they sound yea

shes never going to be doing bad damage i think

[next helm]

How much are we talking

💀

[tight haven]

again

[smoky quarry]

600k

[tight haven]

slightly better than laev generally

[smoky quarry]

as i've seen

[drifting quest]

i was clearing protocol sapces as fast as I was on other teams

[next helm]

slightly is fine

[drifting quest]

with a fangyi

that had

no gear

0

pieces

and level 1 talents

on a bad team

[next helm]

Yeah but thats lvl 40 enemies right

[drifting quest]

idr level

40 sounds

too low

60 to 80

[next helm]

area 123 and 4? are lvl 40ish

[tight haven]

no

thats etchspace

shuo is talking abt material farming protocol space stages

[drifting quest]

^

[next helm]

Ohh

Im stupid

[bronze plume]

true

[drifting quest]

its ult start so skewed obviously

[next helm]

I thought the etch space

[soft tendon]

Protocol spaces r 60 im pretty sure

[thorn shore]

i been skipping story and now theres so much random jargon

am i cooked

i dont know what half the words in every sentence mean anymore

[bronze plume]

do you care about the story

[lyric latch]

80

[thorn shore]

not rlly but it cools to know whats happening just found it funny

so much random bs words

[willow blade]

should i skip zfy since i got m12 leav and lr

[bronze plume]

do you want another dps that is of a different element from what you currently have

[abstract fractal]

why does zfy gear got electric damage bonus

is she stupid

and we have no options at all

[bronze plume]

if i had to guess

its cuz shes electric

[urban plaza]

hot take

[abstract fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[abstract fractal]

jokes aside she gets too much damage% from everywhere else no?

[molten star]

How much uptime is gilberta's buff for fangyi?

[bronze plume]

yes she gets alot

[molten star]

Downtime even

[bronze plume]

but like

doesnt really matter

just make atk% buffs from other ops buffs and stuff even more valuable for her

theres too much icing on my icing cake type shit

yes it would be better if her gear buffed something else with how much electric dmg% her wep already gives

[molten star]

Does the buff stay up like for 5 s and fangyi is back to normal for the rest 20s?

[bronze plume]

but like

meh

[thorn shore]

ye but can be cast twice with enough uge

and regardless of uptime zfy doesnt have good enough teammates to replace her

[molten star]

2x within a single fangyi ultimate?

[thorn shore]

teammate economy is fucked

[thorn shore]

yes and if im wrong its the ardelia dudes fault

[molten star]

Mifu will sabe her

[thorn shore]

hope so

[molten star]

Would be bad if they made her physical

[urban plaza]

mifu will be physical

[molten star]

❌

[urban plaza]

we get elec support, heat support and mif physical

[chilly bolt]

Mifu is 90% physical fr

[bronze plume]

mifu is physical,heat, electric

[molten star]

Mifu is rossi

If they make her phys, they better not make her weapon better than exempler like 40%

[cold bane]

Mifu will be TangTang support surely

[bronze plume]

nah

another dps

lets go

who needs more supports when you have gilberta

[smoky quarry]

People who skipped gilberta in favor of yvonne shoud really feel bad

[bronze plume]

what

if they

dont like gilberta

[smoky quarry]

I've seen someone coping that gilberta isn''t that important to yvonne

[bronze plume]

and like yvonne

[abstract fractal]

they can get her now

25% take it or leave it

[ionic vapor]

I'll be honest. I feel Yvonne is pretty forgetable as a character. I just do not understand why she's an operator.

[smoky quarry]

50/50 chance to get event legendary or go home with off-rate leg

[icy remnant]

I’m tired boss

[ionic vapor]

She's the type of person that would work in a lab and be on the research side of Endfield. Not on the ground imo.

[smoky quarry]

i am pretty sure everyone is aware why yvonne was added

https://tenor.com/view/yvonne-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-try-not-to-laugh-gif-262934056176593840

[ionic vapor]

I do.

Sadly I don't really play the characters for 'that' XD

[smoky quarry]

I don't really like throwaway characters

They pop up once in mainquest/sidequest and then never again

[ionic vapor]

I felt Fangyi would have fell into the same trap I feel of Yvonne. Aka there's no point for her to be an operator. But Since I got her and got to grasp why she's an operator, its actually pretty fitting and cool.

[smoky quarry]

I'm quite sure that you won't see yvonne for... ever? They aren't gonna make content with her

[ionic vapor]

Fangyi is unironically an Endmin without the Powers.

[smoky quarry]

and fangyi will just disappear once we go into la fantoma

[bronze plume]

i mean

in majority of gachas

you kinda just stop seeing a good amount of the units

[smoky quarry]

majority of gachas are shit, I get it

[thorn shore]

cant just have infinitely increasing amount of permanent recurring characters

[bronze plume]

like its not easy to make some 50+ people stay relevant forever in changing stories

especially when you go to new entire countries and shit

[ionic vapor]

I don't exactly mind that personally. I just need to feel that there's a reason that operator is an operator. Yvonne has none.

[smoky quarry]

They can't be arsed to make even one personal quest for each char

[ionic vapor]

Testing her new tech on poor fools maybe? That's about it.

[bronze plume]

well its not like

they need to

most gachas like endfield characters show up when there banner is out maybe a bit sooner in there region once region is done they are gone maybe even before region is done

only ever see them again for events where you go back to that place or some goofy summer event kind of thing

[ivory widget]

Yvonne started as integral to dealing with blight, but that immediately got sidelined by Xiranite lol

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk for u

[bronze plume]

might come back for really big plot points

some lower rarity characters dont even get the light of day ever in story

[urban plaza]

unsure if I want oblivion on perlica or Detonation for my Fangyi team 🤔

[smoky quarry]

At least perlica is always with us. I hope at least she will get personal story

[bronze plume]

chen will get 2 alters

and the first one nobody will like

i can see it now

[thorn shore]

well her personal story is probably heavily intertwined with endmin

[bronze plume]

she also knows arcane via stuff and mifu etc

[smoky quarry]

Some people think she's just dorky bookworm, while she is one of the most written characters as of now

[ionic vapor]

Really, I just need for the game to give me a good reason for a character to be Operator. I think most work well, only Yvonne and somewhat Tangtang irk me.

Both feel forced imo.

[thorn shore]

she doesnt have time for reading when shes babysitting the amnesiac CEO

[normal tangle]

? that’s literally like 40% of the cast

[smoky quarry]

she's biker, imagine that

[normal tangle]

why zero in on yvonne specifically lol

[drifting quest]

do we like

not read the lore or what

[bronze plume]

^

[normal tangle]

tangtang has no reason to be an operator using that logic, neither does antal or da pan or whoever isn’t “generic combat unit”

[bronze plume]

people do not read the memos

and it shows

[smoky quarry]

I never read notes in games, one of the laziest storyteller tools

This isn't a novel to read

[bronze plume]

bro would not ever want to touch arknights

[drifting quest]

'i dont get X'
'X is explained if you read'
'i dont read'
the gacha game special

[ionic vapor]

I do read them. I don't think I got to read them all yet, especially that I don't have all characters, but still.

[smoky quarry]

Just a bunch of text without context

[bronze plume]

the context

is in the text

con_text_

[smoky quarry]

I read the files of operators and nexus, cause it is lore and character backgrounds

Most of the notes in the world are just meaningless scribbles

[ionic vapor]

Yeah honestly half of why I've liked Fangyi as an Operator was reading about her background stuff.

[normal tangle]

ngl i want to get into lore but then i get to the ardashir monologue where he spams buzzwords at me and then it’s like

[bronze plume]

so true don sancho of lamachaland

[normal tangle]

whatever man i didn’t wanna understand anyway

[drifting quest]

an idea most

[ionic vapor]

Also I feel Fangyi is pretty old. Also not a clue what a Kylin is, I thought she was a Lung lol.

[smoky quarry]

scaramucha thinks he's tuff

[drifting quest]

i do mald at fangyi being a kylin

[thorn shore]

remember your duties ooooo youre an amnesiac ooooo were gonna meet again ooooo

[drifting quest]

looks like a lung is a kylin
the one who looks more like a kylin is a sarkaz

[ionic vapor]

How so? Genuine question, I do not know what that race is.

[abstract fractal]

ingenious?

[bronze plume]

her being a elder race kylin is so funny

[drifting quest]

based on the 'real' life qilin

[normal tangle]

kirin monster hunter

[drifting quest]

all previous descriptors and the only previously shown kylin we had

[bronze plume]

chinese mythology lighting horse basically

[drifting quest]

look nothing like fangyi

but do look sort of (but not entirely) like mifu

[normal tangle]

maybe kylins are just old people with lightning powers

[bronze plume]

im more interested in the mf with the crown

[ionic vapor]

A dragon horse? Damn unexpected XD

Or Dog

Unclear

[drifting quest]

new sanguinarch, maybe

[ionic vapor]

I see multiple versions

[drifting quest]

unless you mean someone else

[edgy elk]

HAHA my salvation

[bronze plume]

exactly bro

[drifting quest]

i will say i will dislike it if true

[normal tangle]

if i’m 10 pulls away from dossier should i just send it for free arsenal tickets

any knowers

[drifting quest]

devalues the court if we keep just getting the new versions

and i just dont like lr in general

so biased i guess

[bronze plume]

wtf is the name of the sanguinarch boss in arknights

[bronze plume]

i still believe in my crackhead theory

[drifting quest]

duq'arael

[bronze plume]

there aint no way that the male op has the crown and we still aint know nothing of him yet when hes in the "coming soon" with mifu and the sui sibling

unless they just drop lore next patch

[echo cove]

[drifting quest]

there's the datamined ||mifu graphic with him that probably means both are 1.3||

[normal tangle]

we still have second part of 1.2 story left

[echo cove]

Demn

[normal tangle]

maybe we see him there idk

[drifting quest]

rossi treatment

[bronze plume]

aint no way bruh

thats it im beliving my totally wrong crackhead theory

[echo cove]

Who's him? The vampire guy?

[drifting quest]

cant wait to see a new wendigo that somehow survived

[bronze plume]

last rite has no right being the race she is bro

how did they fall so far

[lyric latch]

||LETS F*CKIN GOOOOO||

[echo cove]

Sarkaz more like sarcasm

Well i like me my blue hair angel tho

[bronze plume]

they just throwing sarkaz left right and center bro

shoulda stopped at laevatain

[lyric latch]

as someone who didnt play the og Arknights, I thought Sarkaz was just another common race

[tender spoke]

how good is Iwintolose's guide

[drifting quest]

hard to comment havent viewed

they have historically been not good

but if its fangyi anything works

she stupid

(ly good)

if it werent clear

[bronze plume]

the lore of the sarkaz is basically they are the original natives of terra

[tender spoke]

isn't Arclight kinda weird? I feel like what's the point wasting sp consuming elec on her instead of Zhuang, is it just for the elec ult?

[smoky quarry]

iana won't update guides?

[normal tangle]

just don’t use battle skill

it’s so free

[bronze plume]

then they unironically got colonized by the predecessors

[tender spoke]

she is just an ult drone then

[normal tangle]

yeah

[drifting quest]

they said they might make a small section for fangyi

but they didnt say anything about updating the now outdated sections

[smoky quarry]

they?

[bronze plume]

Iana

[smoky quarry]

[rare dew]

does zhuang yi work with tangtang

[torn pilot]

the team i have deployed looks like the best team i can make with zhuang, right?

i am kindof stoked to use perlica/antal/arclight since i havent had much reason to use them before but im not really sold on arclight

[drifting quest]

you really want a vanguard

at least one, sometimes two

[rare zodiac]

No van is kinda suffering

How much sp for that team to get from 0 to ult?

[drifting quest]

600? 800?

[torn pilot]

idrk honestly

[drifting quest]

depends on uge

[torn pilot]

maybe i try arclight instead of gilberta

[thorn shore]

i like this team too

fuck arclight im willing to wait a second for the 10 sp she wouldve provided

[torn pilot]

yeah legit tho

i just read her kit and think "ok so shes literally only giving me thermite"

maybe in 1.3 we get another electro vanguard

[drifting quest]

extra elec source for free, consistent sp over time

adds up enough

[rare zodiac]

Yeah her buff condition is ass

[torn pilot]

her buff isnt really real because ur never even using her battle skill

ur legit just spamming her combo skill

[sour gazelle]

800 over 80s

[torn pilot]

i remember seeing something that says zhuangs battle skill can hit for over 2000% multiplier

so im curious to see the nuke setup in action

[rare zodiac]

If you eat a lv4 electrification sure

[echo cove]

100% uptime thermite, free elect stack and electrification, sp overtime

What abt that do u not like?

[drifting quest]

no ones forcing anyone to use any team

fangyi is somewhat self sufficient anyway

[echo cove]

Fair, yeah

[drifting quest]

you can just roll over anything

[rare zodiac]

Pretty much just Fangyi Perlica + 2

[echo cove]

But making it sound like arc is bad kinda puts me off cos she's clearly good here

[thorn shore]

theyre all pretty bad we just dont have good ones

picking the prettier pile of dogshit

[echo cove]

Who's they?

[molten star]

What to buy for fangyi? Waited like 4 hrs finally have 150 hetothigs

[thorn shore]

everything besides perlica as a fangyi teammate

[modest wraith]

Are there alternative armor sets for Zhuang Fangyi I can equip until I can start producing Xiranflow

[echo cove]

Have u even tested that in play for u to say that?

[torn pilot]

is qingbo gear better than bonecrrusha on tangtang?

[trim cipher]

what are the early thoughts on Fangyi meta wise? Is she as backloaded as Laev is? Because playing her until she gets her ult is suffering

[sour gazelle]

heard it is for tt hypercarry

[thorn shore]

brother have you seen how much teammates do for other teams its blatantly obvious fangyi is lacking in the teammate department i didnt expect anyone to even disagree with me

[heady pine]

Seriously broken

[sour gazelle]

more than laev

[proven mauve]

do we know how important fangyi sig is yet

[trim cipher]

So not like Laev but lightning flavored? She is close to a must pull then

[rare zodiac]

She is Lae Pro Max

[trim cipher]

well that sucks

[molten star]

Guys what should I offset on fangyi's gear?

[heady pine]

Not a must pull

[trim cipher]

I hate backloaded kits honestly

pure borefest until ult

[sour gazelle]

she's a clunkier, harder to get ult, more niche, less smooth without ult version of laev

[trim cipher]

wow that kinda screams skip to me

I guess I'll wait for mifu reveal then

or the vampire boi

[sour gazelle]

she's great if u get ult at the start

sucks if not

cuz after the first ult everything is so much smoother

[trim cipher]

so like literally any other content except farming stages?

[trim cipher]

oh ok then

[echo cove]

What consitutes bad? What r u comparing it to?

Am not saying i disagree w ur point, but man, give me number if u want to just completely disrespect all of fangyi's mate except for perlica.

[trim cipher]

how long does it take for her to ult for the first rotation?

[sour gazelle]

tbf the only content that starts with no ult is umbral and time isn't a concern there

but who knows what later content would be like

[rare zodiac]

45 to 50s give or take

[echo cove]

Ppl at least had the decency of doing that during yvone time when they said Yvonne's m8 was ass pre tt

[sour gazelle]

60-80s

[trim cipher]

wtf that's long

[rare zodiac]

No van team?

[trim cipher]

that's like an entire rotation of a wuwa team

[sour gazelle]

u can make it faster by using ult gain gear

but u lose dmg

[trim cipher]

I'm so used to wuwa gameplay I absolutely DESPISE clunky kits

physical team was great in that regard

everything flowing nicely

[sour gazelle]

still gated by cs cd

[trim cipher]

does her team hit like wet noodles like laev's team or do they actually contribute to some damage?

[thorn shore]

bad = doesnt do much, not much synergy

for example, arclight's battleskill is completely useless, does nothing, doesnt get touched

[molten star]

Huh wuwa rot is 80s?

[thorn shore]

a good teammate would have a useful bskill

[normal tangle]

wuwa rots are like 40-50

[trim cipher]

I mean if you don't play quick swap, a regular rotation takes like a min for me

[rare zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZwY61nlkAg

50s should be enough

[sour gazelle]

u can choose to bring avy and she would do dmg

[molten star]

Last open world gacha I played is genshin and was used to the 18s rot

[trim cipher]

what's her bis team as of now?

both for aoe and for single target

I guess antal for single target? similar to laev

[normal tangle]

by this logic akekuri is garbage for everyone

does near nothing outside ult

[echo cove]

Using that logic, i'll ask: Did lr have bad teammates pre tt?

I reckon Gilberta's bs don't get used, nor does perlica.

What's the dif?

[thorn shore]

i dont even have LR on my account

could not tell you

[thorn shore]

shes definitely just a filler teammate

[proven mauve]

arclight perlica, last slot is more flexy

[thorn shore]

ult bot

[echo cove]

So don't act all smug like u know everything if u can't even point that out

[drifting quest]

agendaposting will continue until 1.3 releases

[echo cove]

Anw, am out

[trim cipher]

I thought arclight wasn't very good with her since she also consumes electric infliction

[proven mauve]

infliction and electrification are separate

[thorn shore]

if you use her you never touch bskill

[proven mauve]

which is fine

she's there for combo

[trim cipher]

I don't think I'll have SP to do so anyway lol

[proven mauve]

^

[merry dune]

who has a good guide up right now is it true prydwen did ok on zfy guide

[trim cipher]

so she is trash without her sig huh?

[proven mauve]

i mean it'll be a few days before we have definitive guides

theorycrafters haven't had enough time yet

[trim cipher]

they really want to make you pull on that garbo weapon banner don't they

[normal tangle]

can you link and i’ll check

[trim cipher]

anyway I tried her trial and I'm not permanently blinded (for now)

but I'll still wait for mods

otherwise I gotta play the game in %50 brightness

[merry dune]

https://www.prydwen.gg/arknights-endfield/characters/zhuang-fangyi

[sour gazelle]

hmm yeah ig I was considering doing a 4th full rotation for some reason

[drifting quest]

Prydwens fangyi guide is alright

Not perfect but more than good enough

[trim cipher]

She is not dupe reliant is she?

[merry dune]

trying to redirect people to something when they don’t know how to act without iana

[drifting quest]

there is nothing as good as iana's doc was

in 1.0

[rare zodiac]

Is anyone 6* really dupe reliant?

[drifting quest]

there wont be anything as good as it unless someone else makes a replacement

[proven mauve]

maygii does some pretty good theorycrafting posts on reddit, but no megasheet afaik

[thorn shore]

good luck pal i believe in you making the new doc shouldnt take you too long

[drifting quest]

maygii's are fine on release but has the same issues as any CC that releases youtube guides

[normal tangle]

a couple odd teams but the gear is fine yeah

[trim cipher]

maygii's guides take at least 20 business days to arrive because she really dives deep into calculations

[rare dew]

Anyone know

[drifting quest]

obsolescence by time

[proven mauve]

tangtangs only took a week or so no?

[drifting quest]

i was doing it lmao

i quit

[trim cipher]

man it sucks that iana quit. Their guides were controversial but they were helpful mostly

[drifting quest]

this community is not worth the hundreds of man hours

[thorn shore]

why

[trim cipher]

helped me a lot while building physical team

[rare zodiac]

Not really, like what u gonna do with ice stack

[thorn shore]

oh yeah fair

i was just told i cant say whats bad bc i dont play LR

hate this place

[rare dew]

Apply electro for electrification no?

[normal tangle]

these calculations are odd

0 performance increase from p3?

how are they getting that

[proven mauve]

it's honestly kinda odd how small the tc community for this game seems in comparison to its size

[trim cipher]

other than youtube clickbait guides we have nothing. Prydwen builds are still at 1.0 version lol

[drifting quest]

calced in a way where p3 doesnt matter

[trim cipher]

yeah it's kinda insane

[bronze plume]

its just none of them are in this server

[drifting quest]

which is true in those assumptions

[rare zodiac]

Then without elec infliction how are you gonna trigger Fang CS

[thorn shore]

cause the endgame isnt hard so when everything works everythings a good guide

[bronze plume]

this server is dogass for the actually known tcers

[proven mauve]

is there a tc server?

[rare dew]

Oh

[drifting quest]

tc is in small subservers

invite only

blame the community for pushing them away systematically

[proven mauve]

[trim cipher]

any known TC youtubers? Or those who make decent guides at least

[sour gazelle]

I would guess few play this game for the combat tbh

[trim cipher]

other than factory building guides

[bronze plume]

^

[drifting quest]

guoba lin maygi

[proven mauve]

usually there's at least like 2-3 half decent google docs

[normal tangle]

vintage tcers don’t like this server, no new people want to get into tc because there is no reason to whatsoever

[drifting quest]

because tc is all in subservers and done for fun not clout

[normal tangle]

game is easy as fuck, no reason to optimize anything at all

[drifting quest]

there's no incentive to make stuff to be posted

[rare zodiac]

Me

[sour gazelle]

I play for ziplines

[trim cipher]

well their guides weren't exactly f2p/beginner friendly so they were confusing at first. Only if you had proper ball knowledge you could understand, that's why they got that kind of reaction

[drifting quest]

iana was the exception of someone making content for the public that wasnt a CC monetising it

[trim cipher]

Like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1r8znm0/i_just_want_to_build_my_favorite_characters_not/

not to say he was wrong but but their guides were EXTREMELY meta oriented

[rare zodiac]

Oh this post again

[drifting quest]

i planned to make a more exhaustive version covering non optimal but viable shit as well

[trim cipher]

which is kinda weird in a game with tons of new players

[drifting quest]

but plans are plans

[thorn shore]

games gonna go into warframe territory where all the youtuber guides are sub-optimal but they work and theyre praised as gods

[trim cipher]

but anyway endgame is not that difficult for now

[thorn shore]

until we get hard stuff

[proven mauve]

hopefully contingency contract motivates tcers

[drifting quest]

tc does not matter right now and probably never will

bannerslop clears

[normal tangle]

this is a disingenuous and quite frankly egotistical take

[sour gazelle]

→ doesn't like meta
→ checks meta
→ gets angry that it's too meta

[trim cipher]

how is the OG AK TC community btw? That game seems more complicated compared to AKE in terms of mechanics

[drifting quest]

ok 👍

[normal tangle]

your friends are not the only ones that are ever able to look at and understand what a number is

[proven mauve]

i mean thats every gacha game lmao

[drifting quest]

pretty chill

at least where i have participated

[warped sorrel]

it exists?

[molten star]

Tower defense tc?

[trim cipher]

Dude that spreadsheet was literally the first answer when everyone asked a question like ''I just got this character, what set should I get?''

[rare zodiac]

You will be surprised by how many maniacs in there

[trim cipher]

Imagine getting Last Rite and seeing that spreadsheet page lmfao

[drifting quest]

riic (base) tc
IS (roguelike) stuff

[trim cipher]

I would have quit the game just there

[molten star]

I know when passenger got dogpiled

[drifting quest]

then optimising low op, 1 tile, low rarity, etc

there's a ton of og ak stuff

[trim cipher]

but even one TC is important for the game's community so we are basically TCless which kinda sucks

[honest hill]

They shouldn't look to begin with

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbDRCh6-3A

[warped sorrel]

Oh i see

[neat snow]

That girl who posts on reddit seems to do a fine job with tc I'll probably use her stuff going forward

[sour gazelle]

if it was so meta oriented should probably blame ppl that spammed it instead

[honest hill]

Who?

[drifting quest]

just stop taking it so seriously

[neat snow]

Maygi I think is the name

[warped sorrel]

It suck when i wanna follow some guys to try minmaxing but they not exist

[merry dune]

is the general consensus for the zfy team right now perli arclight gil

[drifting quest]

if you stop trying to run the absolute best most minmaxxed shit then you have way more options

[honest hill]

Oh yeah she is good at it

[hardy rose]

Fangyi Arclight Antal Avywenna

[echo cove]

Maygi the goat

[hardy rose]

Only possible with ult start

[warped sorrel]

When i was playing G i always watch zajeff to minmaxing everything due to the game meta

EF is a lot more chill but i want a taste of minmaxing again
Im addicted

[normal tangle]

gacha communities are the only communities i’ve seen that have this much unchecked ego and blind faith when it comes to optimizing and theorycrafting, it’s actually insane to see

[neat snow]

My account is just about completely maxed out so I have no choice but to minmax really

[rare zodiac]

The good old days, PHD In elemental gauges theory

[echo cove]

Minmaxing in gacha game is fun

[drifting quest]

gacha communities are full of people who dont want to use their brain but want the best thing going

is it much of a shock

[normal tangle]

every other community has tons of people sharing stuff and teaching people how to optimize. gacha? if you’re not one of like 3 people fuck you all your opinions are worthless

[echo cove]

That's what gambling does to u

[bronze plume]

welcome

[warped sorrel]

Im one of those people

[trim cipher]

It was literally pinned lol

[drifting quest]

still is pinned

[trim cipher]

new players don't understand sweaty spreadsheets, they require basic information

[echo cove]

That's not even true. But u do have to prove urself to make ppl take ur opinion.

[drifting quest]

should prob be unpinned but depends on iana's plans

[normal tangle]

and if you ARE one of those people then pray to god you don’t make a small mistake or else you get hunted down on the streets

[neat snow]

Some people just want to learn because they are new to gacha but everything is gatekept by discord nerds

[echo cove]

Problem is most ppl don't bother proving themselves, and instead asking for the entitlement

[normal tangle]

name one time this happened ever

[drifting quest]

cough

settle in

grab your popcorn

[echo cove]

I'm sure shuo has alot to say abt that

[drifting quest]

not my fight

i dont care

[echo cove]

Fair enuf

[warped sorrel]

but you already grab the popcorn -

[drifting quest]

im here to watch not participate

[rare zodiac]

Here to observe

[normal tangle]

quite frankly i don’t care what mr “only my private friends are allowed to tc and they don’t like you guys so i’m gonna sit here trolling” has to say about this

[echo cove]

Let's see what we have here hmm

[molten star]

Perlica in fangyi team doesn't care about arts intensity right

[echo cove]

You are too blinded with spite to see his point

[rare zodiac]

Yeah, Fang eat it all before it can do anything meaningful

[drifting quest]

let them be

[echo cove]

I do get that it does get annoying how it became that way

[drifting quest]

dont perpetuate the cycle

be the change you want to see

[echo cove]

Well