theorycrafting

[normal tangle]

it is not

well, worse if you assume 100% rare fin chance i guess

but i don't think we have enough int gear for that

[nova lance]

Who the flex

[cold bane]

antal/gilberta/ardelia/akekuri/alesh; avywenna possible but probably not optimal

[thorn shore]

is the p1 for fangyi actually kinda insane? perlica + antal for level 2 inflic, fs, consume it, bs, perlica applies elec again, fs, then repeat another lvl 2 elec chain

thatd be 9 if u have p1

8 without

[tight haven]

uep

[cold bane]

p1 supposedly ~+10% dps

[tight haven]

p1 and p3 are big comfort pots

p4 is a qol pot

p5 is big damage

[daring dove]

Where do I swipe my cc to get P5 Endmin.

[thorn shore]

damn might be worth just rolling for p1

i aint a p5 kinda guy

but i might be a p1 kinda guy

[cold bane]

thank you for funding 1.3

[normal tangle]

what is bro's name

staff01 lmao

[cold bane]

nice channel "No Access"

[dry kindle]

Oh boy this only ends well

[bronze plume]

im sure that channel will be filled with highly accurate and good info

[normal tangle]

i mean

better than an outdated and inaccurate iana doc

current fangyi guide isn't all that bad

[cold bane]

i hope @fringe totem does a Fangyi doodle soon

[dry kindle]

Why is there a xira build 😭

[pure heron]

Dear Endministrators,
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1493499627830251530 is opened! You can share your original advanced/beginners guides in https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1493499627830251530 !
To ensure tactical efficiency across Talos-II, we’ve established this dedicated forum channel for sharing gameplay guides. Use this channel to archive your builds, team synergies, strategic insights and more.

[bronze plume]

it now has a channel name

[dry kindle]

Actually I guess it works xiranite is will int right

[fringe totem]

Why was I summoned

[normal tangle]

i'm not sure what these are doing but erm

remains to be tested i suppose

[dry kindle]

Anyway I'm still downloading send help

[cold bane]

I loved your doodles and was hoping for a Fangyi doodle sometime in the future 🙂

[dry kindle]

[normal tangle]

team comps look fine

[bronze plume]

seems like its meant to be her ult spam build

[normal tangle]

it's full uge%maxxing

doubt it's all that useful

[bronze plume]

she does do amp so she gets the effect of it off but like

[graceful dome]

im curious what the dps difference will be between her sig and others and if it will be as worth as someone's like laev's was

[thorn shore]

stanza or sig on ardelia for fangyi tho, does xiranflow give atk% i forgot

[bronze plume]

might be good if you are using avy with her?

[normal tangle]

sig

[normal tangle]

.......

[dreamy bramble]

Can tangtang work with The new girl or no

[normal tangle]

the whole time i was thinking "huh my arclight is dying oddly fast"

she has no gear on bro

0 defense

[normal tangle]

you can force it to work but it won't be all that good

[bronze plume]

wait for people to test wit that one

[dreamy bramble]

Ok

[bronze plume]

work yes

well? probably not

[dreamy bramble]

I just know people say she applies alot of arts damage

[normal tangle]

you can run solo fangyi and it'll work

it's fine

[dreamy bramble]

I tried her in a trail and legit got down to 1 HP. Most likely me being ass at the game

[daring dove]

Yeah I can't see Tangtang contributing meaningfully to Fangyi team, she works really well with Rossi but Fangyi kind of doesn't want some who inflicts cryo stacks on the team.

[bronze plume]

do i just cut my loses and use the bp wep on fangyi stupid ahh arsenal tickets man

[daring dove]

Rossi didn't care.

[icy remnant]

Bro I missed 1 day and the game is already treating me like a cheater

[tropic oasis]

Seems like if you electrify with ZFY into Perlica CS it goes to level2

[normal tangle]

huh? do i need to do story for this

where lv 4

[tropic oasis]

Makes for a comfy rotation I suppose

[icy remnant]

Looks like it but man I’m busy rn

[bronze plume]

probably

[normal tangle]

man

i muscle memory traded all my stock before seeing that

[daring dove]

I think it's a new zone old one is still capped at 3.

[normal tangle]

there goes 2.8m outpost xp whatever

[bronze plume]

oof

[twin schooner]

same....

[bronze plume]

in livestream it showed it at lvl 4

dont quote that

[twin schooner]

If only I had the patience to watch all that

[daring dove]

Which sig do you guys think is the best to chase P5 on, with my whale credits. I'm, thinking Lifengs currently but open to suggestions?

[bronze plume]

unironically ardelia

not actually bias this time

[daring dove]

Already got that one but should of said in advance.

[normal tangle]

obv thunderberge

[bronze plume]

crazy

[fossil pendant]

am i going insane or does it take way longer to load the map than it used to

[normal tangle]

honestly bro just buy whatever you like best

[bronze plume]

last rite then if you use her

if not lifeng

[normal tangle]

you'll get all of them p5 within a year anyway

[twin schooner]

ive been noticing loading pauses too

[bronze plume]

^

[inland quarry]

Is Striker an oil executive or something, damn

[bronze plume]

yuh

[cold bane]

so ZF is super saturated with dmg%?

[normal tangle]

yuh

like an insane amount

[main nova]

Fangyi is comfortable with Soup2 too wtf

or maybe it just soup2 stuff

[daring dove]

Fair enough I was going to P5 LR weapon but I already prefer Rossi so I might as well get weapon dupes for a character I might end up using.

[bronze plume]

thats just tangtang being tangtang

[main nova]

yeah

[nova lance]

Arclght or ake?

[bronze plume]

good dmg, procs own combo skill

not much more you can ask for atm

[main nova]

Endfield golden child

[dry kindle]

I'm gonna go fuck myself

[bronze plume]

changing my name to "myself"

[normal tangle]

yet to be seen for trims, but for daily content and story 100% arclight

[main nova]

[fallen cedar]

The detonation unit’s arts burst passive trigger when apply electrific infliction for first time?

[normal tangle]

she's just too comfortable

[icy remnant]

? You will most likely get another 6 star right before pity

Hope you miss rate up

[normal tangle]

ake has a really good ult but the downside is she's completely useless outside of ult

[icy remnant]

Wait for the tickets tho

Tmr

[normal tangle]

arclight can have consistent performance

[dry kindle]

Yeah guess what

I fuckin didnt

[outer ermine]

wait huh theres new arsenal pack

[dry kindle]

🗿

[icy remnant]

You also didn’t wait for free tix xd

[graceful dome]

arsenal pack?

[tight haven]

there is?

[tight haven]

what is it

[icy remnant]

Anyways this is why selector is so much better than pity

[icy remnant]

Hopefully if we say we like the joint ops enough they will bring selector to the normal banner

[outer ermine]

its after 3 discount i think?

[tight haven]

oh

those have always been there

have you not noticed

[bronze plume]

why do i not have that

[nova lance]

Is the joint ops banner gud to pull?

[tight haven]

oh

wait

no

[outer ermine]

wtf but i always buy out all the packs

[tight haven]

that IS new

[thorn shore]

who in their right mind locked the camera during fangyi ult

[bronze plume]

gang

[molten orchid]

Which operator would get a higher dmg increase from bp-> sig between hypercarry Double T and Fangyi?

[bronze plume]

i literally dont have that on my screen

[thorn shore]

imma have to pul out my camera mode just to look at her during ult

[outer ermine]

[tight haven]

5.28k 😭

they have this shit calced out

[compact bridge]

Heavily depend on your roster and luck

[tight haven]

oh my lord

[bronze plume]

like seriously where is that

[main nova]

the gilberta one?

[nova lance]

Ya

[main nova]

ya

[bronze plume]

aint no way

you have to whale

[normal tangle]

fangyi by like a couple bajillion

[outer ermine]

u gotta buy the 3 discount lmao

[tight haven]

you have to buy the packs

[bronze plume]

to see whale packs

[nova lance]

I only have laev

[tight haven]

yeah

[bronze plume]

oh hell nah

do you have to buy the value one first

bruh

[inland quarry]

Can't scare off the casuals

[nova lance]

How does the banner work?

[tight haven]

and then 3 of the discount packs

apparently

[cerulean gazelle]

is zfy first dupe worth?

[compact bridge]

That laeva already make joint op banner significantly worse for you lol

[bronze plume]

discount packs?

[tight haven]

the ones that unlock after you buy the value pack

[bronze plume]

no dupe is ever worth it over a entire character

[tight haven]

its like

[normal tangle]

depends on how you define "worth"
it's more comfortable and also roughly ~10% increase

[tight haven]

so crazy

[bronze plume]

bro

[outer ermine]

its 1x value - 3x discount - 10 standard or sumshit

[bronze plume]

so this game does have more packs

[nova lance]

I want gilb

[outer ermine]

lol

[bronze plume]

but they are behind spending money to see them

holy

moly

[molten orchid]

Wait really? Why?

[bronze plume]

please at least tell me they arent more value

[tight haven]

theyre slightly more value

the new ones

[bronze plume]

oh hell nah

[compact bridge]

Then take the loss and pull the joint ops lol

[twin schooner]

is there a consensus on the best build and/or team for zfy yet?

[tight haven]

the new $50 pack is great value compared to the other ones

[outer ermine]

value and discount is nice, standard is robbery

[bronze plume]

anyway disregarding

this story shockingly

im somewhat enjoying

[outer ermine]

-150 every patch?

[bronze plume]

and you want me to buy you bp smh

[tight haven]

the new story is pretty engaging

[main nova]

time to gamba

[tight haven]

they at least acknowledged it ig

buying those standard packs felt like

[outer ermine]

w ur wp luck

[bronze plume]

look in the other server if you want to see a potential interesting lore bit

[tight haven]

its so bad

its so fucking bad

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah

Guess who doesn't have p5 wulf

[main nova]

they trying to see the middle ground for spender but yeah the new $50 really worth it

[dry kindle]

I actually got railed on pulls

At least weapon pulls wernt horrible

[main nova]

the rate is not but how we gain their currency is

[icy remnant]

Oh dam

[outer ermine]

its not even in lootbar

guess ill wait

[molten orchid]

Just to be sure, Fangyi’s sig is a better pull than hypercarry Tangtang’s sig?

[main nova]

3-4 10 pull for 1 pull weapon banner

[dry kindle]

At least I got lifeng offbanner

So I can make phys

Never

[normal tangle]

ermm don't use fangyi's dive attack next to a body of water

turns out that tp goes straight to the very bottom

the olympics aint got nothing on my elite diving form

[bronze plume]

wait

ardashir

you might be cooking

[lime bear]

so ig the new xiranflow gear is her best set

[tight haven]

seems to be

double slab might be better

just feelscraft on that take though

based off of how saturated she is with dmg+

[dry kindle]

Where's my refund

[nova lance]

When is joint op?

[daring dove]

It's more giving up the extra 10% ATK I'd be concerned about, now sure how much more main attribute will compensate for that.

Well 10% ATK & 30% DMG.

You likely aren't getting 45% DMG most of the time.

[dry kindle]

Bruh

Just ebs again

[normal tangle]

the environmental art is honestly quite nice in this new area

i like the wuling aesthetic quite a bit

[lime bear]

Wuling enviromental design always been peak since 1.0

[thorn shore]

4th team member slot is cooked

ardelia makes the already greedy rotation too greedy

[normal tangle]

i mean, i guess but look

[tight haven]

ardelia is so not the move

[normal tangle]

it's just so subtly pretty

[nova lance]

Wuts the general rotation?

[thorn shore]

it might deadass just have to be gil

[normal tangle]

spam the FUCK out of electrification and fangyi battle skill

at all costs

sacrifice everything for fangyi

[tight haven]

perl bs > fs > fangyi cs > fangyi ebs > perl cs > fangyi ebs

[lime bear]

theres also a new set specifically to reduce cs cd

[thorn shore]

antal bs perl bs angyi cs fangyi bs, perlica cs fangyi bs, repeat the first loop

[dry kindle]

Fund me

[thorn shore]

thats what im using for now

[tropic oasis]

In testing seems you can just BS -> FS -> Perl CS and it'll go to 2 elec

[thorn shore]

after this with ult gain gloves that are artificed a bit she should have ult

[safe sparrow]

do we know how to build zhuang yet or r the spreadsheet gurus still brewing

[normal tangle]

the qingbo perlica set yeah

[nova lance]

Then wut to do in ult?

Repeat?

[normal tangle]

xiranflow slab currently

[thorn shore]

i aint really got there yet

[normal tangle]

more niche optimized setups still cooking

[safe sparrow]

understood

[lime bear]

wont this also be good for Wulf in Laev team

[safe sparrow]

thanks

[lime bear]

more infliction and such

[tight haven]

for now you can use eternal xiranite

on her

[lime bear]

but prob wont matter that much idk

[tight haven]

its not the worst set

[normal tangle]

what is arts intensity doing for wulf

[tight haven]

just ult spam

[limpid rock]

How much is Perli's CS cooldown with the Qingbo Set?

[normal tangle]

at m3 it's 16.15s

before m3 it's 17s

[limpid rock]

Aite

[thorn shore]

it so fucking sad i think gilberta gets the 4th team member slot now

after playing it for a bit

[tight haven]

she is just her

sadly

[thorn shore]

just perl bs then fangyi ult then gil ult

so u get corro

then do a huge bs

gil should be using stanza right

probably

[tight haven]

gil uses stanza or delivery yeah

[thorn shore]

i got delivery

but in this team

stanza better no?

[tight haven]

delivery is only useful for increasing ult uptime

[daring dove]

I'mma try both Ardelia & Gilberta see why one works better. Gilberta doesn't require SP to function but has less synergy with team buffs & especially uptime.

[tight haven]

in this case

the atk% is much more valuable besides

[daring dove]

Gilberta sig will be pretty low value in a Fangyi team.

[tight haven]

not necessarily

[thorn shore]

the rotation with perlica and antal being the core parts

is just too greedy on sp for ardelia

it struggles enough as is without a good sp generator

[dry kindle]

What pull tracker to use

[tight haven]

i use endfieldtools

[tropic oasis]

She's so giga strong you probably only need gil's ult for the 9 stack BS

Don't think many things survive beyond that

[outer ermine]

@sterile moat i got ur tt

[sterile moat]

Bruh

[dry kindle]

Need to login bleh

[dry kindle]

Fuck yoy

[thorn shore]

im putting my pulls on fangyi perl antal gil being optimal

[daring dove]

That was I'm thinking this instead to fix the SP issue.

Need to finish building it first.

An see how it feels to play

[thorn shore]

maybe, dunno if ake would generate enough sp but worth giving it a shot

[sterile moat]

But ake also takes a million years to generate ult

[cold bane]

how does the avywenna variant feel?

[daring dove]

Just like Fangyi then I'm hearing.

[normal tangle]

i hard pitied on fangyi weapon banner so unfortunately not gonna be pulling on weapon banners for a while

[normal tangle]

not good

[cold bane]

i had high hopes for spears + swords

[normal tangle]

arclight antal has felt the best so far for like general world stuff, just while doing story

remains to be seen for rhodagn

gilb over antal also feels kinda nice

[daring dove]

For me though Fangyi seems like a character missing a key support like Yvonne did in 1.0. That said I need to get her team fully online first to form a proper opinion.

[tight haven]

okay

i see

i did something wrong

perl slot 1

fangyi slot 2

[normal tangle]

the only thing fangyi is really missing is an enemy debuffer that meshes well with her

[tight haven]

thats why my ordering was off

[radiant hazel]

why is this girl so cracked?? mine's level 80 and 0% built and she's already my best carry. She outperforms my m12 lava by miles.

[normal tangle]

the only multipliers that aren't diluted in her kit are susc% and dmg taken%

[thorn shore]

LOL yeah

[cold bane]

so clearly TangTang is her BiS support because of her gun?

[thorn shore]

that specific rotation being bricked by misordering

kinda funny

[normal tangle]

tangtang cryo inflictions kinda fuck you up, and there aren't many arts bursts in a regular rot

you could make it work though., at the end of the day it's tangtang

[drifting quest]

did anyone speedrun factory yet

[normal tangle]

no i'm experiencing story still

check #aic-factory prolly

[tight haven]

man i fw the pacing so far

[drifting quest]

was just gonna try yoink a quick blueprint so i can go take a nap

[tight haven]

its great

[cold bane]

can you make more skyforges now or do you need to do story?

[normal tangle]

oh

[drifting quest]

more yes

[normal tangle]

in a crowd setting, fangyi's lightning automatically seeks another nearby target if the original one dies

[drifting quest]

like 8 or 10 cap now

[normal tangle]

you don't just completely whiff

that's nice qol

[cold bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAv7xA1jpkA yay Apel did a rotation guide!

[normal tangle]

who on earth is apel

[cold bane]

my favorite rotation-CC person, apparently from ZZZ?

[thorn shore]

10% of time spent on game 90% of time spent speedrunning video editing and thumbnail

[main nova]

not even put tang2

unoptimized

[tight haven]

yeah im ngl id use tangtang before i use ardelia

she is so not bringing anything to the table

[thorn shore]

greedy team it feels bad its so greedy without ardelia already

fangyi is a fat sp muncher

well its mainly bc our best elec inflic ratio is 1 per 100sp

[main nova]

yeah im kinda surprised too how well fangyi work with tang2

[thorn shore]

but still

[main nova]

soup2 bis

[daring dove]

Why do we keep pretending that she doesn't do anything.

Have you even tried her?

[tight haven]

dude i am not spending 100 sp in this economy

are you kidding me

[outer ermine]

in this economy

[daring dove]

If she's going to increase your damage output by about 60% (Whale levels granted) that may well be worth 100 SP considering it's a 20+ second buff.

[inland quarry]

If I click this video and there isn't a spreadsheet, I'm immediately closing it

[tight haven]

gilberta increases my damage by 420% and she doesnt need sp

[thorn shore]

with how the swords have a duration i dont like the idea of waiting on sp to proc ardelia

might be more feasible of a thing on p3

[daring dove]

Swords have like a 47 second duration with potentials seems like a none issue.

Like I said I'll try her an form a proper opinion

[daring dove]

So Gilberta's making your team do 4.2x its original damage.

[thorn shore]

i guess dps perlica with the new qingbo set is how you build her here huh

[tight haven]

no she's making my team do 5.8x

due to the shred

[thorn shore]

oblivion over the pennies that wild wanderer might give

[bronze plume]

I want death

[daring dove]

[tight haven]

the ever-so-helpful purification node:

[thorn shore]

xircon the worst addition ever

[dry kindle]

Fml

Need wifi to check pull history

[thorn shore]

piss water best addition ever

[edgy crater]

enion, u already got new gear?

[tight haven]

not even close

[edgy crater]

[thorn shore]

or maybe not actually

maybe keep pulsar

idfk

im too dumb for this

[bronze plume]

so like how many sky forges per heavy xiranite is it 4

[thorn shore]

to even know if oblivion for perlica dmg outweighs wild wanderer for fangyi pennies

[inland quarry]

Arts intensity perlica is still good for fangyi

[bronze plume]

no its 2 thank god

[dry kindle]

@drifting quest How did your pulls go

[drifting quest]

GOOD

caps

[dry kindle]

Fuck you

[bronze plume]

bros in the aic

[inland quarry]

People are pulling instead of speedrunning aic? Smh

[drifting quest]

i was

[dry kindle]

Thank fuck it's a 49 day patch

[thorn shore]

yeah fangyi perl antal gil feels really really good like this team a lot

[high finch]

49 years patch

[inland quarry]

It's kinda wack that it's a 2 part patch though

[dry kindle]

Inb4 same thing happens on mifu

[bronze plume]

idk where tf imma put everything

rearranging again man

[edgy crater]

still stuck at story

[inland quarry]

Less pulling, more story

I'm still not ingame yet

Cannot load the game

[daring dove]

It's a shame I was hoping this would of been a constant thing.

[high finch]

why stuck. enjoy it. you wont get any new story in nearest 49 days

[dry kindle]

I got a 35 (7 till pity) lifeng and a fucking 113 (8 till pity) zfy

[edgy crater]

dats just saying bruh

[dry kindle]

If it was ember instead of lifeng I'd jump out a window

[edgy crater]

the story interesting enough

[inland quarry]

Hey, I'd take ember

[dry kindle]

[inland quarry]

She seems like she might be good to have for cc

[real mist]

1 more for p5 xaihi

[dry kindle]

I'd take my pity not getting fucked

[inland quarry]

Wym?

[dry kindle]

Still no p5 wulf

[inland quarry]

Most 6* will be obtained less than 10 pulls from the 80 pity

That's how the pity system works

It's why you may wish to stop doing 10 pulls at around 70 pulls

[dry kindle]

Zfy at 113

Not even offbanner

And 6* pity at 8

Like

Bleh

[inland quarry]

Damn, I wish I had xaihi pots. I run lr team as well soooo

[lime bear]

30 for me frfr

I can actually try to pull Gil now maybe

[inland quarry]

Somehow the two 5* I lack pots for are xaihi and perlica, the only two I actually use

[dry kindle]

So I lose pity

And don't get another 6*

Cbt

[inland quarry]

Idk if I'd describe getting a 6* to be losing pity

[tight haven]

when i pull on the arsenal issue i just want to kill and kill and kill

[urban plaza]

had to spark for weapon but got jet and oblivion on the way, so its ok

[dry kindle]

Could've gotted a bonus one

But game said no

[rose salmon]

feranmut mentioned

[bronze plume]

that happens alot also use a spoiler

[willow blade]

Rossina still in wip how long will it take iana to finish zfy

[tight haven]

okay cool it with the goddamn

unspoilered story screencaps

[tight haven]

iana isnt tcing for endfield

anymore

[outer ermine]

[willow blade]

So no more doc updates?

[urban plaza]

took only 2 months to quit huh

[daring dove]

Arsenal banner system is amazing always give you exactly what you want.

[bronze plume]

when the game is how it is and the community is how it is

[daring dove]

He says after getting lucky once.

[bronze plume]

2 months is a long time

[odd wren]

[civic wolf]

so if i have to pick between fangyi and rossi signature whose would be more imporatnt to the char

[willow blade]

Alright, what is the next doc to use?

[normal tangle]

why am i seeing so many chinese posts using external xiranite on fangyi

[heady pine]

u saw endmin p3?

[normal tangle]

what is cn cooking bro

[heady pine]

its dogshit

[odd wren]

Wait

There's p3 alreadym

[heady pine]

its bad

[normal tangle]

no way bro the real endmin showed up

[odd wren]

Havent seen hahaha

Im lazy to do quest

[heady pine]

aight dont look for it

[odd wren]

Can you spoil me

[urban plaza]

you sure its not xiranflow?
looks similar

[normal tangle]

it doesn't

the pieces look very different

[urban plaza]

both is green

[odd wren]

Lame

[heady pine]

abysmal dogshit

[normal tangle]

this is external xiranite bro

i know what gear looks like

[heady pine]

shes clearly meant to be a subdps for avyenna

this is good

[dry kindle]

Brb swiping to p5 to spite the game

[civic wolf]

so whats the big idea of fangyi always facing the direction of the player's camera?

[urban plaza]

guess its the same ult gain build that plagued Lae at the start

[real mist]

is fangyi's p1 like good good

[odd wren]

Obtainable already?

[civic wolf]

is it so that the player has manual control over the AoE blast area instead of targetting one enemy 😭

[normal tangle]

comfortable and also roughly +10% dps for free

[heady pine]

idk i havent completed story

prob after new boss fight

[odd wren]

Man thats so lame we dont really use ult ngl, i just use it for delaying frames

[heady pine]

im more interested in new sm gear anyway

[odd wren]

Good for chen

Can go back swordmancer set

[heady pine]

good for all tbh

[odd wren]

With the ult damage ones

[heady pine]

swordmancer

Agi/str/phys chest

STR/will/ai hands

Agi/str/ult dmg kit

exactly

[odd wren]

Welp guess i will wait for mifu

[real mist]

what about her p3

[odd wren]

[merry bay]

Do we know if its better to use Avy or Gilberta as the 4th member for Fangyi?

[molten orchid]

Probably for smoother gameplay but I was also kinda disappointed that you can’t rotate her in ult

[real mist]

the duration increase is a good QoL no?

[heady pine]

antal

[icy remnant]

Needing to wait 3 days to roll is actually so ass

[molten orchid]

Just do it

[icy remnant]

I’ll at least wait till tmr

[merry bay]

Is it really?

[icy remnant]

For the 2nd set of 2 ticks

[real mist]

okay I'm getting ahead of myself, I need to save for mifu

[heady pine]

sadly yes

[normal tangle]

decent. not as good as p1

more comfort than anything else, little tangible increase in real performance

[dry kindle]

Fund my p1

[normal tangle]

fund dn

[molten orchid]

Collect my pages

Isn’t P1 like a huge scam? 240 for guarantee

[willow blade]

Since iana quit, what doc should I use now

[dry kindle]

Game just told me to go fuck myself and 120 so

[drifting quest]

there is no replacement

you're p much on your own

[willow blade]

Sadge

[bronze plume]

there currently is no actually good doc like ianas

until some makes one

[leaden tartan]

There's info floating around... but it really is just floating around. Hard to parse.

[daring dove]

I really hope this version update doesn't try make me build Antal that'd be horrific.

[willow blade]

Are there good Chinese docs?

[nova lance]

Is antal bis?

[willow blade]

I hope not

[normal tangle]

guys li zhiyan ability was blue. let us spend the next 2 months feelscrafting what element she is

[molten orchid]

Well I do have 100k oroberyls but P1 still seems too expensive in case I have to pull all 240 pulls

[normal tangle]

new cryo swords unit incoming

[nova lance]

Electro tangtang

[bronze plume]

blue?

cleary shes water/hydro whatever you wanna call it and they add a new element

[odd wren]

@heady pine @heady pine wait wait might be good

[heady pine]

sup

[odd wren]

New swordmancer with ult damage

[heady pine]

oh ye u have p5 grand vision

insane dmg

[odd wren]

Might be good ah

Need to check

[brave arrow]

do someone have mission pass art unit P5 vs lone barge P0 damage comparation?

[bronze plume]

nobody

is going to have a accurate dmg comparrison this early

[drifting quest]

it exists

[bronze plume]

bruh

[drifting quest]

idr off the top of my head

[drifting quest]

the numbers were out days ago

unofficially

[bronze plume]

she really was tced before release

[drifting quest]

💧

[bronze plume]

why do characters take -2 weeks or 5 years

[icy remnant]

Guessing it’s again ~10% worse than sig w p5 BP?

[daring dove]

Really there's another disk now.

[normal tangle]

hypergryph does seem to becoming much more lax on info being released

[bronze plume]

25k per

oh hell nah

[icy remnant]

These gears getting more and more expensive

[normal tangle]

they gave us effects of both bp and sig weapon days in advance, when we previous got them literally during the maintenance period for 1.1

we also got next banner characters already

[leaden tartan]

Pretty much across the board this is the case except for maybe wedge.

[leaden breach]

WHYYY, Mommy, WHY
3rd event six star in a row robs me bare absolutely, all 120 needed with 3rd 50/50 lost
All the savings gone again. But that is not enough, right?

Let's not give enough arsenal tickets even through 130 pulls, so you won't have your sig, still have to pull two more times for weapon.
They really should recalculate the arsenal tickets economy, I'm not even bothered by losing 50/50 anymore. Just please don't force me to buy weapons, it should be guaranteed at least in 140~ usual pulls, why

[normal tangle]

a step in the right direction honestly

[normal tangle]

this is the theorycrafting channel bro

[potent hornet]

yea

[leaden breach]

shush, my bad, sorry

[potent hornet]

why here lol

[civic wolf]

atp this game's gamba scheme is such a trainwreck, pulling becomes something theorycraftable

[normal tangle]

can we be theorycrafting wallet dps

[urban plaza]

spm, swipes per minute

[potent hornet]

how many strikers per minute can you do?

[leaden tartan]

damage per wallet seconds is the technical measure.

[icy remnant]

Alright…

[potent hornet]

lifeng

[civic wolf]

I got a pog on the perma banner

[bronze plume]

all channels just become a #salt-mine-gacha-flex for the first day of a new banner

[civic wolf]

early 6*

[high finch]

why did iana quit?

[daring dove]

[icy remnant]

Got it

[potent hornet]

nice!!

gratz

[icy remnant]

No more AIC quota to buy tickets now lol

[potent hornet]

took hard pity for mine but i got my p3 TT so i'm happy

[graceful dome]

from what i saw the game has no real endgame i.e. the game has 0 reason to opti rn which doesn't cater towards players like em

[real mist]

[graceful dome]

their words were "the game is fake"

[civic wolf]

oh

Frontiers ult gain gloves

is this the first ult gain gloves or nah not really

[bronze plume]

no lmao

[urban plaza]

tc comes probably back with 1.3
but thats quite the long wait..

CC should finally bring something thats worth optimizing

[bronze plume]

keyword is should

[normal tangle]

oh, well that image turned out to be a nothing burger

[urban plaza]

[normal tangle]

it's just a memo

[leaden tartan]

The AIC was there all along though.

[inland quarry]

Any idea if it's worth using fangyi cs to upgrade perlica cs electrification yet?

Or should we buff fangyi bs with perlica cs

[icy remnant]

Man I hope Mifu is next banner

[heady pine]

perlica's goes first

[inland quarry]

You can time it to place it when you want it no?

[glacial jackal]

What is zhuang best team

Im using zhuang gill perl arch

[tropic oasis]

Mmm, that'll let you set with 3 every 17s

[dry kindle]

Upgrade pre 9 swords

Ig

[tropic oasis]

But it also depends, pots change the rota abit

[normal tangle]

first time having antal on a team and wow i hate this guy

why is every one of his idle voicelines so annoying

shut up bro

[bronze plume]

YO THEY PLAYING THE OG SONG FROM THE CBT2 LIVESTREAM

GIVE ME THE SONG NAME MFS

[daring dove]

Yay can't wait to get to level 11 for the temporary DEF buff.

[icy remnant]

All of them are useless except the double drop and stamina increase anyws

[urban plaza]

the atk buff at least does something

[green cipher]

25k too

[daring dove]

I think we need to hire another staffer at HG at this point, one to slap the dev that keeps putting cutscene's in the middle of boss fights. The other for the dev who keeps creating new disks.

[urban plaza]

and they didnt even give us outpost lv4, right?
or is that after new story

[green cipher]

Uhhwhat

[bronze plume]

havent done it yet but there is just

another outpost so like

doesnt look like theres new batteries/meds atm tho

so no reason to level up a outpost to 4

unless thats unlocked later as well

[urban plaza]

yeah going through story now to see whats up
so far only depot upgrade and new stock trade unlock

[digital scroll]

Photo update too

[urban plaza]

true

[digital scroll]

The monitoring tower

[icy remnant]

I think it’s a new outpost instead of outpost leveling up but not sure

Need to finish story first

[bronze plume]

yeah ok

[icy remnant]

I just got flash banged

Anyws I finally got this today for Chen

[daring dove]

Didn't have P5 Chen yet?

[icy remnant]

Nope

I am probably one of the people who rolled the least in this game

[daring dove]

Ah been saving a lot?

[icy remnant]

Yea

[daring dove]

Fair fair

[icy remnant]

Did like 4 singles for Laev
And then 8 singles here for Fangyi

Not counting expiring rolls

[urban plaza]

what are you even saving for lol

[icy remnant]

Mifu maybe?

I would’ve rolled till 120 for Fangyi if I lost the 5050

But I didn’t so

I might roll on Gilbertas rerun for the heck of it
I’ll think about it

[daring dove]

If you're looking to win 50/50's rather than hitting 120 pitty.

Gilberta's banner might not be the place to go

[icy remnant]

I’m always planning around 120

Fangyis weapon should only be here for 1 more banner after the rerun i think

So hopefully thats MiFus banner

[daring dove]

You can kinda skip on Gilberta's sig a lot of the time

Stanza does a pretty good job of pretending to be it

[icy remnant]

Her Ult excess energy gain might have a chance to shine in CC

[urban plaza]

especially cause you can decently max it

[last sedge]

At this point the story is pretty obvious youre the corporate bad guy that infected the planets with Originium Crystals like a virus and the aggeloid are anti-bodys fighting off the virus. Aether is basically a vaccine by seeing how it affects Originium users.

[icy remnant]

When you get a -50% uge tag you really wanna grab anything you can

I hope that’s not a spoiler but I only glanced at it

I should probably avoid discord

[bronze plume]

less spoiler

more a theory

[urban plaza]

theorycrafting..

[tropic oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-are-we-the-baddies-surprised-gif-19176339

[urban plaza]

story theory

[bronze plume]

but thats just a theory

a game theory

oh how i miss you

[icy remnant]

My outpost bills are full and my WuLing batteries are also capped rn but I’m lazy to do story rn

[dry kindle]

[icy remnant]

I’ll go get some food first ig

[bronze plume]

remember to stay hydrated and feed people

you are now manually blinking type shit

[icy remnant]

Feed people sounds like I have slaves in my basement I shouldn’t forget about

Guess I’ll get some chicken for them

[bronze plume]

damn chicken?

i give myine dog food

spelling is hard

[rose salmon]

isnt this the sui revealed on the 1.2? damn

[bronze plume]

yeah

[icy remnant]

Getting a Sui and not even releasing them in Chinese new year

[dry kindle]

Can we smite everyone who got good rng on zfy okty

[bronze plume]

leave me alone

[bronze plume]

can i annoy you

[icy remnant]

It’s okay I can pretend to be upset I got lucky by “complaining” I don’t have enough for arsenals and thus got unlucky

I gotcha

[dry kindle]

🗿

[icy remnant]

I love the braindead Reddit arguments

For why getting lucky is unlucky

[dry kindle]

Surely I pull zfy in next 3 tickets

[bronze plume]

surely

[rare meteor]

Is the new Qingbo set better for Tangtang than her old setup Bonekrusha? Reduce combo skill CD sounds better

[bronze plume]

chat can i join the gang

[daring dove]

I guess it depends on if you care about her personal damage more or her debuff?

[rare meteor]

The latter I suppose. I use her as Last Rite driver

[icy remnant]

Lower combo cd sounds interesting

[dry kindle]

New set should just be better for tt

[daring dove]

I need to test if that new set allows me to loop corrosion on Ardelia as well to be honest.

[dry kindle]

It doesnt

[icy remnant]

P5

[daring dove]

I'll be at most 2 seconds off looping it with P5 I reckon but need to test.

[icy remnant]

Well the diff between 11s and 15s is too long

[dry kindle]

5

Including delay to hit

Iirc

[torn pilot]

So what are we thinking best fanyi teams might be

[dry kindle]

Perlica arclight

[heady pine]

antal

[icy remnant]

Delay to hit is included because your combo starts right when Ardelia fires
So the delay is already factored into the first combo skill

[dry kindle]

Flex last for hot start 1 ult or cold start/2 ult

[dry kindle]

Second hit gets delayed as well anyway

[icy remnant]

?

But you can trigger it even when they have corrosion

[dry kindle]

Just

Throw it on endaxis

I'm on mobile

[icy remnant]

What I’m saying is if it’s for example 15.1/15s it wouldn’t matter

It’s simply not tho

[torn pilot]

Arclight really a staple?

That’s surprising

I read her kit and was sure I wasn’t ever using her

3s combo skill seems like fun gameplay tho

[icy remnant]

Staple?

[dry kindle]

Zfy combo does make it kinda funny

[torn pilot]

Like, a premium pick = staple

[icy remnant]

Is she optimal?

[bronze plume]

i know what you are

[dry kindle]

Fund my p5

[heady pine]

ye just unbind her b skill tho

[bronze plume]

how much money do you think i have

[dry kindle]

Enough to fund me

[bronze plume]

true however

why would i

[icy remnant]

Sworce will cosplay Ardelia for you

[dry kindle]

Because yes

[dry kindle]

🗿

[bronze plume]

i have a wife for that

[icy remnant]

I didn’t hear a no

[bronze plume]

🗿

[ocean turret]

li zhuan a gunner huh

looks nice

[bronze plume]

wrong one discord

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[ocean turret]

i didnt cook?

[bronze plume]

play bit more of story and youll see what i mean

[verbal palm]

Is there a P5 6* tier list anywhere because I need to decide whether to P5 Laev or roll for Fangyi

[bronze plume]

the awnser is fangyi

[ocean turret]

did you jsut speed run the story?

[torn pilot]

Just do both

[torn pilot]

Real? Why

[heady pine]

consumes electrifiction

[torn pilot]

Arclight seems like she does almost nothing

[heady pine]

not worth the misclick

[torn pilot]

Well what I meant was why is she optimal

Like assuming the team is fangyi antal Perlica, why pick arc instead of someone like Gilberta

[heady pine]

3s combo skill is better than the other options tbh

[torn pilot]

Or even akekuri

[torn pilot]

Hmm I’m a bit skeptical

[heady pine]

she doesnt do anything for zhuang outside of ult

[torn pilot]

It’s the type of Alesh situation where it just feels like a waste when you know she can be replaced so easily

[icy remnant]

I don’t even know what does Arclight do
Pretty sure lvl60 investment is almost nothing tho

[dry kindle]

@drifting quest Do cold starts use uge

[icy remnant]

You can also use her for base skills afterwards

[torn pilot]

Then again, she doesnt exactly read bad, she’s just super homeless I fear

[icy remnant]

How long does it take to finish the story

[torn pilot]

Tru

[torn pilot]

I quadrillion years

(Idk)

[ocean turret]

i know

[nova lance]

When is joint op banner

[heady pine]

mid may

[ocean turret]

if you want 83% electric dmg dealt team buff from her talent

[daring dove]

3 weels for now I think

[nova lance]

Is it worth to pull if I have everyone except gilb

[heady pine]

no

[nova lance]

How am I gonna get fangyi BiS

[daring dove]

Likely not if you don't care about getting dupes as the odds are against you losing two 50/50's before getting to 120 pulls for Gilberta.

[compact bridge]

Fangyi bis is 100% perlica

[torn pilot]

^

[nova lance]

I bet gilb will be in her best teams

[torn pilot]

That may be true but Gilberta is definitely far from her best support

[compact bridge]

Unlikely, gilberta is struggling to beat akekuri i think

[torn pilot]

ATM Gilberta is just an option people are trying

And currently her competition is like, Arclight

[nova lance]

I just hope it's not gilb

Any1 but her

[torn pilot]

"I can’t take it anymore 😭💔 I’m sick of Gilberta. 🤬

I want to use Ardelia ✨, she uses too much SP 😩🔋. I want to use Perlica 🌸, her best team mate is Gilberta 😀🔫. I want to play Rossi 🧨, her best team mate is Gilberta 😀🔫. I want to play Laevatain 🔥⚔️, Last Rite ☠️, all their fastest clears use Gilberta 😀🔫💀. I want to roll for Mifu 🐱💫, Fangyi 🐉🌙, deep down I know they both want Gilberta 😔👌.

She smiles at me 😊💦. She knows I skipped her 🙈❌. I said I didn’t like her story 📖😒 and she held a grudge 🔪👁️.

“Having fun, Endmin? 🎮😏 What a nice stash of Oroberyls you have.” 💎👛💎

She knows I’m going to pull the moment she reruns 🔄💢. I farmed for her ⛏️😤, I built Stanza for her 📚💪. She knows I’m holding 120 pulls specifically for her 🎟️💔😭.

She grabs my credit card 💳👹. It declines ❌📉😱. The banner is gone 🚫🎆😦. I can’t pull for her anymore… 😧🚫🎲 I don’t even know when the next rerun is ⏳❓💀.

“Guess I’ll be taking these for safekeeping 🙂 💎😇💎”, she took all the Oroberyls I stocked up 🏦💥😭. There’s no hint of mercy in her eyes 👁️❄️🔪, just pure 42% SP neutral Arts susceptibility 📊🧪💀.

What a cruel world. 🌍😔✊🌪️"

[ocean turret]

i made rot for arclight but, im not sure if its a proper rotation

[nova lance]

So real

[ocean turret]

i just need fanyi, and i can test run it

when i did the op event, i got distracted by her skill animations

[compact bridge]

Cant blame those people, half of our char is cryo team and the other half is heat team lol

[nova lance]

Is tangtang also in the picture for fangyi?

[torn pilot]

Yea

As a semi fake semi real option

[nova lance]

[torn pilot]

The thing about tangtang is just that she does so much damage

And has an arts sus

But she doesn’t exactly stick out as high synergy

More like she sticks out because Tangtang is just overtuned af

[compact bridge]

Would you say tangtang > gilberta for fangyi?

[torn pilot]

I don’t really know honestly, probably not because corrosion is still a pretty sizeable amount of damage

Tangtang Makes overworld exploration and daily tasks a breeze tho

[nova lance]

All this tangtang talk is making me regret skipping

[compact bridge]

Never thought corrosion and gilberta could go together lol

[torn pilot]

In the end, I suspect Gilberta to be the highest damage pick for the team but I wouldn’t be surprised if we just stick to an sp bot like Arclight/akekuri instead

[torn pilot]

How come?

[tight haven]

dude

i wont lie

gilb feels so fucking good

with fangyi

[nova lance]

Wut da current team look like anyway?

[tight haven]

just stack max uge

she matches her rotations buttery fucking smooth

[torn pilot]

Rn I’m using fangyi antal Perlica Gilberta

I mean I don’t think you’ll find a higher damage option
But it’s possible you find an option with better rotations

[compact bridge]

Corrosion has a ramp up time, gilb buff is less than 5s

[tight haven]

im using arclight over antal

i think you appreciate the more consistent inflictions more for real fights

[bronze plume]

heavy xiranite is just for the new gear rn right?

[tight haven]

yep

and for exploration

[main nova]

golden child being golden child

[nova lance]

Either I pull on scam banner or wait for mifu to creep gilberta

[bronze plume]

should i just make 2 sky forges be heavy for now then

[torn pilot]

Wdym by this exactly

[bronze plume]

then use 6 on xiranite

[ocean turret]

phys mifu

[compact bridge]

We wont have any info on mifu during fangyi banner right?

[torn pilot]

I like Antal because he’s basically just xaihi for electric team, the amount of buffs/debuffs is very premium from a damage pov

Like would I really replace xaihi in my cryo team with Alesh

[nova lance]

Does the joint op banner pity carry over to sonewhere

[dry kindle]

No

[nova lance]

[daring dove]

Looks like something that's escaped from Roblox though.

[torn pilot]

We need an Antal copypasta

“Antal is not that bad guys trust me…” someone finish it

[tight haven]

with the new frontiers pieces arclight becomes very spammy

with her ult

it feels very good

[torn pilot]

Me omw to delete my tubes for xaihi for these new ones

[torn pilot]

Isn’t it kinda redundant tho?

[ocean turret]

complete story first, make hetonite comps

[torn pilot]

Like eventually you’re still stuck waiting for smth to apply electric

[nova lance]

🐳

[tight haven]

not necessarily

im working out proper timelines but im finding few spots where im wasting her inflicts

[dense aurora]

fangyi build?

[cold bane]

finally arclight has left the bench, i am happy

[outer ermine]

another waiting game on recrisis

[honest hill]

Hifumi

@outer ermine I'm here

[harsh slate]

Perlica after that 30k meme

[outer ermine]

strimming now? gib me like 10 mins lol

[honest hill]

Works for me

[normal tangle]

has anyone run oblivion vs ww calcs on perliguh for fy comp

i'm assuming oblivion diffs but making sure

[bronze pewter]

one million more gil involvements

[fierce ingot]

Doesn't she want electric inflection wouldn't antal be better the gil?

[normal tangle]

literally what am i looking at

[clever sparrow]

i think someone said theres literally no other options lol other then oblivion.

[cold bane]

dps fluorite?

[normal tangle]

there are two options,, i'm asking which one is better in this scenario

[normal tangle]

with xaihi?

[cold bane]

xaihi ult buffs nature

and her amp from skill doesnt care

[normal tangle]

oh yeah i forgot she did that

[cold bane]

though skipping xaihi skill can be simpler since you want to stack nature arts burst alot

[open hare]

I just got her with 30 pulls

[honest hill]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[open hare]

I'm not flexing

[honest hill]

ur not meant to send it here

go there

[open hare]

Damn

[bronze plume]

the point of that channel is for pull showcases to be in that channel not here

[honest hill]

yeah

[bronze plume]

not anywhere else but there

[honest hill]

btw beef does the outpost go lv 4

the one that was lv 3

[open hare]

Didn't they increase the max level

[bronze plume]

naur

not yet at least

[open hare]

For something else

[honest hill]

wtf

[teal pawn]

"i'm not flexing!"

flexes

[bronze plume]

it might with the 2nd part of this update

[teal pawn]

[honest hill]

bruh

[open hare]

2nd part?

Darn

[honest hill]

so I am guessing u did all the story then

[bronze plume]

notice how we

[honest hill]

no change to that outpost

[bronze plume]

only have 1 of the 2 new areas

[open hare]

So the 2nd part is the new area?

[bronze plume]

naur im close but im doing aic stuff

[honest hill]

L

[bronze plume]

obviously

[open hare]

I'm skipping this factory stuff

[bronze plume]

lots of people do that

[honest hill]

inc me

[cold bane]

i like ZF's movement in ult

[open hare]

I honestly don't need gear that much to bulldoze through the story

[cold bane]

zipping and zapping around

[open hare]

I only need the minimum ngl

[tight haven]

fangyi is so fast

[open hare]

Mountain dew Fangyi

[tight haven]

like im pretty sure shes faster than pog?

if not just as fast

[open hare]

Two big reasons to get her

[tight haven]

definitely faster than pog during ult

[real mist]

how is fangyi in overworld. wondering if I should switch my tangtang/gilberta/perlica/xaihi team if fangyi is better.

[outer ermine]

fell into water 6times cuz of double dash

[sage flame]

do i have to refarm the new set for tt?

smh

who uses this besides tt honestly

[dry kindle]

Good job

[outer ermine]

shush did u win

[dry kindle]

[daring dove]

If you're using Tangtang as a damage dealer I can't see the new set being much / any better. it's more if she's a support you'll want the new set.

[sage flame]

i mean she was mainly a support no?

and stil is

[real mist]

I guess I'll just stay with tangtang in overworld considering fangyi seems to not be consistent (needs ult)

[bronze plume]

shes used as both in most teams outside of main dps

[teal pawn]

fuck's sake

[dry kindle]

Support with 35% team dps

[sage flame]

i mean if this would release last patch i would farm this 100%, but the old one was all we got

[dry kindle]

L

[normal tangle]

any team order knowers? what slots do i need my team mates to be in for arclight combo skill to be in between fangyi and perlica in terms of priority

[teal pawn]

She takes no damage with shields out 😭

[bronze plume]

honestly

[normal tangle]

i keep getting cucked out of sp because perlica wants to combo and i don't want her to

it's so annoying

[dry kindle]

Just put arclight 1

[bronze plume]

the new boss is the easiest to trim outside of the punching bag

[tight haven]

cskill order always goes in slot order

[outer ermine]

ight

[tight haven]

so put perl 1 arc 2 fang 3 then

[normal tangle]

it's not though

[tight haven]

it does

[dry kindle]

It does when same trigger

[tight haven]

if two cskills meet their trigger requirements at the same time then they will trigger in order of slot

oh wait arc cskill

im cooked

yeah theres no way to sandwich it

[normal tangle]

that's dumb as hell

[dry kindle]

Just spam it smh

[honest hill]

@outer ermine where u