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like a few hours
you're on NA can you see how many hours left on Rossi banner?
DST keeps getting to me
yeah nice
technically 4.5 hrs left
since its 4h35
maint should then be uhh
i think they said it will end in 11h from now
but 1.1 ended an hour or two early
10hr 30m at worst
could you play 1.1 right away then?
yeah
yes
More likely 8hr or so
once maint is over the new version starts
hell yeah
Which community do the korea endfield mathheads hang out in anyone knows
Or where they just hang out in general
well im off to sleep now gotta timeskip 8 hours of waiting 
group chats? dcinside? idfk
every jp gacha community i end up in is like, a goddamn glorified gc
One with 6 new stages
I need kr 
I think we still are
tehre should be this channel in kr section
its the same for kr communities ive heard
vn has one so I dont see why kr shouldnt
they just hang out in their own group chats

you gotta know a guy
What’s tehre
typo 
And what kr section
yeah sleep until patch comes out then another 12hrs for her to come out
Kr section of what

you have to get the Korean language role
no we dont have to wait for fangyi
once maints over shes out
Can you imagine
dude if we just had like
I ain't strimming at 5am
is it really that important to be there at launch? can’t even be 3h late?
wouldnt be all bad since we need a few hours to get Zhuang Fangyi's gears anyway
get your sleep man

@outer ermine gimme a time to strim my pulls
a few days*
u right, I will play prob at 8am
few hours to unlock aic and another few hours to figure out how the fuck anything works
new gear needing new ore is going to be a bit of a pain
i hate reactor crucibles man
Surely fangyi isnt a char with prebuilt gearing and little option for diversity
That would never happen
or we can just use the game's blueprint I guess
wont be the most efficient but at least we can get gear and artificing done
im up 12am; when maint ends
bro
SURELY it isnt ult gen spam with a bunch of buffs loaded into her talents, multipliers and signature AGAIN
go to system blueprints and look at xircon
im pretty sure they also gave up cuprum blueprint in 1.1
and tell me that’s useful
wtf what time is it rn for u
Those who know
I havent looked is it that bad 😭
just ping its friday later so im just taking a nap at work 
look at it bruh
1:32pm
im coping that she actually does have electric amp in her talents
pleaseeeee. please
ur 5hrs behind me smh
ok but is the tutorial for it bad tho? I just clicked skip and figured it out myself
oh i forgot about the battery one too
utc-5
Check her bp weapon
will u be awake at 3am
i have not seen it yet lemme see
Proc condition is when wielder gains amp
wtf u mean u won't sleep at all
u have to sleep

ok it is that bad
oooooooh
okay thats good news
Hifumi still gotta do house chores like cleaning cooking laundry
he will be up all night
thank u
That's even better. Tired=better sleep
true
I'm guessing @outer ermine has insomnia
antal mdps weapon
wtf

do u not eat food???
do u not wake up to take a piss or anything
i eat b4 i sleep smh
Some of you have never dealt with insomnia and it shows
riic has done shit to my body
I'll visit u in ur dream
my longest sleep was 15 hours

Hopefully I have enough rocks ready for Fangyi. 
what's riic
4 days awake into like 18h catatonic sleep
I have slept for like 18hrs+

rhodes island infrastructure complex

dijang in ak
U should get the unique frame from the korea collab for collection purposes
but better

endfield dijiang sucks
you mean the gallery where you see your operator do stuff 
i wanna access dijiang from menu without having to tp there
i thought riic was a mistype of iirc back then
why do i have to interrupt everything i’m doing to go click 3 buttons and come back
@outer ermine do u take sleeping pills
no i just sleep
what about sleeping tea
who needs pills for that, are you 47
nothing
shit ton of coffee tho
young people even struggle to sleep so
coffee makes u sleepy?
no they don’t vro
everyone i know sleeps TOO much
nobody i know has issues sleeping
idk
It’s 1:43 and Im awake
no,i drink it to stay awake or ill get fired
I do need to sleep soon
smh
If not I won’t have energy for the new patch
🤝 lets sleep
Bai then
u sleep alone
When is it going live the update it's about 8 hours from now right? 
april 17th
What is the command for the calendar?

Ah so set alarm for 04:30 then. 
Ty ty
Wonder if Rossi will have the longest ever weapon banner
Looks to continue for the full next version & into 1.3
umbral is hella far 
u can just bully rhodagn on repeat
u always seem to have fun doing that
CC starts with 1.2 no?
no

did everything already
13.1 rossi
14.6 lr tt
30 rossi shatter
decent shatter mino 36
we will never see him here again
just waiting if new gear can improve my shatter
then im ded until umbral
if it doesn't play another gacha game
Ehh bullying umbral is fun
catching up on shows
the rhinos
oh like what
Umbral is so not fun
I mean bullying umbral
It claps all ur ult to 0 when u get back to ow
What if Fangyi bullies Rhogagn in 4.8 seconds. 
Rhodagn will bully Hifumi in 3.5s
Speedrunners are gonna reset their 3 seconds runs cause they mistimed input by 235ms
just finished medalist few days ago 
rossi supremacy

oh nice, I am currently binge watching To your eternity 
i mean w fresh load starts yea
some other animes like angel spoils me rotten
i just finished s3 today damn
I'm at the end of S1
ep 12 was very sad

S1 eps 7-12
dw theres more
looking forward to it
oblivion, stanza, unsure of what else would work really good
im sure there are no other options 
pinned google doc on this channel goes detonation unit>oblivion>wild wanderer for avy team
For Electric it should be Wild Wanderer instead of Stanza for support
Maxed out hypernova auto
(I'm joking)
obj, oblivion, deto
maybe a zhuang weapon might work for perlica
does perlica consume elec
To give a more srs answer, detonation unit is best for buffing.
Oblivion is best for dmg.
Wild wanderer for a mix of both and playing her outside eletric with some physical.
No
so how would zfy weapon be good for her in any way + having will mainstat
🤷🏾♂️
it doesn't lol, sorry i'm dealing with some personal stuff and wasn't thinking all the way.
ure alright
Oblivion Detonation Unit Mist imo
mist being the new bp?
Mist being the new protocol pass weapon, usable as long as you run Antal. Until its full effects release, won't know how good it actually properly is, but using Wild Wanderer/OBJ just for some DMG Bonus doesn't do much either
wait they posted the weapon skill already?
secondary dps option for Perlica (besides Detonation Unit)
I think even Wild Wanderer is better than Mist for that
It's the will main stat that makes me iffy on it. The atk% number will be the determiner imo
well yeah, oblivion has int stat too
Only decent BP weapon remains Rossi sword 
navi is fine
I think he means it in the sense of providing the most value overall
All of them are fine. They're designed to be good but not the best for the associated character
Just that GM happens to be rlly good on Chen as well while the others are very much only options for their limited operators rn
Actually, idk about navigator. Is that good on anyone else besides yvonne?
Nvm. Just Yvonne
of course
I think as a subsidiary DPS of the team, it's Oblivion > Detonation Unit > Mist
other options might be as good or better than Mist though, depending on the skill's exact details
for example Wild Wanderer is likely to be better of a weapon overall, but might not be better for Perlica's damage
This is just feelscrafting though. Details coming soon anyway
oh if only deto was on fangyis weapon banner
Oh they removed the EU/NA knowledge advantage by getting both servers on the same banner time now.
the best weapon banner is gonna end up being on the worst sig
i can feel it
nothing but hits as off rates but a mediocre rate up

6★ weapons that may appear in [Drifting Raft Issue] include: Lone Barge (Arts Unit) / Oblivion (Arts Unit) / Chivalric Virtues (Arts Unit) / Eminent Repute (Sword) / JET (Polearm) / Wedge (Handcannon) / Exemplar (Greatsword).
what
Oh Oblivion and Chilvaris is great. Jet for my Avy as well
2 hour wait and then they're here
servers go live right around when I would normally sleep lol
oh well there's a ffxiv livestream at 4am my time anyways
time to caffeinemaxx
oh right
I wonder how big the update
40GB?
they said 11 on pc I think?
it says in the ingame notice
I remember mobile was 7 or so
ur telling me it's 11GB for PC?
I did yes
I was gonna say that considering the content unveiled the patch should be fairly big but
11GB for all that is crazy
I dunno how much size stuff like that typically takes up 🤔
(Referring to more permanent content. Not events with the exceptionof fangyi's ig)
So mainly the story stuff
7 week patch to shuffle through 
but we'll see how much content there is when we play
if it's like 1.1 oof
They did say 1.1 is gonna be smaller patch
Implying the next will be bigger so I don't think this patch being small should be a concern
As in, it's not gonna be small. I could have worded that better
it's almost entirely map and sound files most likely
those are quite hard to compress
especially in all the different languages
yeah
Surely they're gonna go for language pick and download first when game size becomes an issue
They do it on mobile already.
4-6 hours 
Maint starts at the top of the hour
utc-5 is 16:36 / 4:36PM right now anyway
maint ends at 12am for me (UTC-4) 
1am for me 💀
also servers usually start up 20 minutes before the listed time they said maintenance is over
Fuck I am so stupid
I forgot to spend my stamina, it is maxed by now
and they started maint
generational loss
Hope I go 120 because if not I'll have to wait till 1.3
I haven't logged onto the game for 2 days
download is out
Am i due for execution
Actually, since maintenance ends in like what
9 in the morning
I lose about 80 stamina, which is 1 dive
6hr at worst
Can't afford waking up that early, there goes my protocol dive I guess
When are they gonna add tickets that just skip stamina events 
Fangyi banner will last till the 22 of May and people on May 21 will complain because they were one 10-pull away from 120.
Why they can't just let it hang for whole update? The rerun banner is a separate one anyway
the banner ending on the 22nd is weird yeah
The only answer is fomo bait
idk endfield's gacha is just
so bad
so needlessly weird in a lot of unsatisfying ways, i keep going back to it but man it just smells
If they wanted to dedicate whole update to one wife-bait, then let the banner be
Imagine if next update is gonna clump up three banner like the 1.0 lol
Except for time-gated events
I'm sure they are ALL time-gated
cause they really like to stretch those 1.2 pulls
The lastest event starts on May 14
Banner last till the 22
In 8 days any lockes staged would be unlocked
We still have dailies and weeklies, 1/3 of patch pulls come from them
Still 35+ days
1.2 is 49 days long
idk I'm glad it was only 1 banner, anything else would have been really bad for my account
Go do your drugs everyone
another healing talent 
these potentials are insane dude what
that p1
ew she got return sp
3-piece set effect: Wearer's Combo Skill Cooldown Reduction +15%.
When the wearer casts a combo skill, the wearer gains Skill DMG Dealt +20% (for every skill) for 15s. This effect can reach 2 stacks. Duration of each stack is counted separately.
what's this for
Qingbo set
3-piece set effect: Wearer's ATK +10%.
Whenever the wearer consumes Electrification or Corrosion, the wearer gains a number of buff stacks equal to the Status Level of the Arts Reaction consumed, with each buff stack giving Electric DMG Dealt and Nature DMG Dealt +15% for 25s. The number of buff stacks maxes out at 3 stacks. Duration of each stack is counted separately.
is it even good for anyone
good for who
depends on individual pieces
Who uses combos and does skill damage
its new tangtang gear option
set bonus is good for like most people but 85% of gear viability is how the pieces fit
act surprised that the qingbo gear set is for the qingbo leader
int will arts intensity pieces? huh
Doesn't have comand post base skills, gg
whoa datamine out?
who is int will and likes a.int
25second ult
its the same as the leaks from days ago
perlica i guess
looks like CC server leaked again
oh wait this set is just good in general for perli no?
Seems like it
Is that same as laevatein?
she’s currently on pulser labs
would have to see how that -combo cooldown pans out for rots
but it’s for sure promising
Pulser set bonus is very important for perli
Haven't used laev in a while, let me check
wait this set can be good for perlica?
it’s 50% dmg dealt
Laev ult is 15 seconds lmao
this set is 40% and also better combo cooldown
with a 50% uptime, so 25% avg damage increase
true ig
just because of the combo cooldown is better
Survivability talent?
Seems they are preparing for CC
yes but for operator xp instead of weapon xp
this as well

that is laev
holy shit she is wtf
i think i'm capped on int for my ake cause mine is lv90 with some artificing lol
but uge gloves is nice
and we got uge chest last patch
oh i could even swap out a kit now for some more uge
i think i had gloves off-set for ake so now i don't need to anymore
could just do redeemers
Read better
so battle skill is 45%* number of blades?
is swordmancer chen back lmao
(45 + 9 * electrification level)% * (number of blades + 6)
crazy
then during ult that’s amplified
that’s the same thing
fangyi looks pretty sp hungry no?
which chest piece does she wear there's 3
this should be final formula, outside of ult
only two viable ones
what
There's no +1
there is
Also we get to die from cringe doing talent 1 math
you can also wear sm tac gauntlets and wear yinglung heavy
wait
ohhh ur right that would be better
no i misread
wtf
yeah
1000% outside of ult and 1800% in ult is crazy
it's literally Swordmancer's version of Yinglung Pieces
38% self amp on final bskill hit
sm chen with ult dmg pieces 
Because why not
wildd
i remember someone here saying fangyi ult would be 100 energy
I've been lied to
it's just mainly for the stagger
who said this 
grrr

never ask a striker how much energy their ult costs 
bro’s listening to green names
🎋
💀
who else is consuming them dawg
Oh wait it says it's part of the ult
it actually has to be the ult itself consuming them
not just any time he consumes it
P5 seems quite good?
we love every single team changing gearing
It's not much
- this is why pretc sucks
Yeah
something something arclight bad
Looks like rip tt gear?
Is arclight still bad
no
there's double vg variations that run arclight
Gg forced to raise arclight
not mandatory
wait what
Is zfy on slab or uge
Looking at the bs numbers, is lvl 1 elec still better than lvl 2 if you are using perlica for electric inflictions?
Its so over
to meet uge rots
Does p1 fix the rots 
well 15 out of his 80 energy is slightly better than your typical -15% ult requirement pot
assuming you trigger it every time
Well, worse for the first ult on a no-ult start cause you don't get it until after
is antal's P5
10% -> 14%
or
10% -> 10.4%
heat/elec susceptibility?
its 6 more energy
14
-15% is like x1000 times better lmao
what
So seal off piece or what
😭
when it says "apply focus on the same target for 20s", does that mean i used antal's BS/focus twice on the same enemy+another 20s or does it just mean focus from 1 BS instance has been active for 20s?
Fuck it I'm just doing damage per screenshot math
Only kind of
only
screenshot is a thing in EF? holy Bennett adventure team
That's what we all do u whel
my uge calc is broken for fangyi
btw Wulf ultra cope new gear is dead because Xiranflow only works for Electrification and Corrosion and increases Electric and Nature damage 
i should have put the effort in sooner
Ake is the Bennett of endfield

another op to steamroll the content we currently have
The content that is super easy
For an ult start, no.
Getting 15 of your 80 energy requirement filled after every ult is essentially reducing your energy needs by 18.7%
isnt that like every invested dps 
.roadmap
watch cc make healers/defenders useless
Why tf is umbral so late
depends
is there an update time command
8th may
.maintenance
ccb4 needed those healers and defenders
6 stages i think this time
You think??
if cc requires straight dmg immunity buffs that would suck

they announced it
BGM
亂序
臨界值
Control's Wishes
Original Strat - https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MWeJzMEBm/?
its confirmed to be 6 stages no
arclight needed 2 defenders, 1 medic, and a lot of stall
r we fighting the water blobs now
okay time to sleep then since its midnight for me rn, not staying up until 5 am for patch
well idk honestly we should just wait and see 
I guess but it's so late in the patch we have to wait 3 weeks for it
crownslayer🥀

shes optimized out
Why would u stay up lol
Time to die from cringe doing bskill math
datamine alr?
20m after maint
1 stack ebs is 99 MV right
id suspect they already had the info prepped lol

or they know how to datamine effectively
clueful
we can discuss datamines but not discuss how to get them

it happened in 1.1 too
i had it linked to me by a friend
i dont have an account that could do it
so im not bothering
What's ai perlica electrification number
Do I just put 30% or something
Sounds close enough 🗿
Idk but w qingbo set it will be good
doesn't ai have diminishing returns
16* ( 1 + AI/100) or smth
check the damage formula
29% on full ai gears
Do you fucking mind
its better than usual
How do math good
whatever you feel like broski
jesus christ
yeah lmao
yeah those mults are just
eugh
powercreep allegations are not avoided
i cannot imagine any other team is like
even a little close to this
okay well we'll see but those numbers already are something the fuck else
thankfully her teams all kinda suck
oh
okay that endmin potential is not very good
it's basically just 15 ult energy refund
this is what im thinking
her team comps all feel bad and its arclights fault
if arclight wasnt the most fraudulent op ever to live she'd have an easier time
ult start rots aren't real rots they don't count
we know them already?
yeah i dont think its gonna matter
is it perl ake/arc gilb/antal like we thought
just the way they fixed Rossi
36% no?
36
does her bs hit 9 times?
If you have 9 swords
9 times and then the final hit
each blade is +1 mini hit
final hit does the damage of 6 mini hits
Am i reading the battle skill right? She gets that 45% (81% during ult) hit per sword, for her 9 swords, except the last one does 6x the damage?
we love balanced units
Explodes
yes
The pots are quite good too
p5 is silly
it's not quite 36% though
all except pot 2
Nvm I had 10 hits
p2 is good too
240 for ult
3.9k% 
lets see
On a lv1 elec
she got hoyo style potentials
cough
no wonder shes solo banner
Hi
though
Stellion P5
204 ult energy at p4
is 14-17k dmg per ult fine
i mistyped last night
For who
ember
Lv4 elec consume
Let me summon all the ember mains
alesh arclight intuitively feels like the play
Wait there's none
alesh arclight perli

idt antal's one-every-40-seconds cskill is worth it at all
smh
is this another lae case where fangyi has to drag around poverty teammates
oh 24s
and vg antal
lol mb
Wrong 4*
basically yeah
all her competent teammates suck
except perl
that sounds so fake
That is indeed something
like
ult start things
you just
cycle between 3 individually good units
next 3 ops are all future cryo teammates btw ✌️
lol
and just shit out good unbuffed damage
Is antal good for zfy? The amp doesn't stack right?
Still good
amp stacks
antal is just
Only 36/38 amp on final hit so not much dilution
but roi didnt seem all that good
Stop thinking
xiranite slave
Is there a world were ard is worth the sp?
plus deto
one elec infliction every 24s eugh
p much
It's a lot of susc
no
her talent is an average of 30% amp, relative to the amount of dmg the battle skill deals
since it ramps up to 36 but the final hit is doing the most anyway
i cant imagine there is
yeah
antal works for speedrun comps ig
sp-less elec inflict is too good
most things are pretty solved
back to the monophys mines
couldnt give a shit
new gear for several phys units to look into
yeah its probably just alesh arc perl or something
so in the end it's what, arclight gilb?
what is alesh going to do
sp slave
Antal is just ult+xiranite bot right?
oh
his best
oh awesome
susc on bs
Crit fish
Surely if you are willing to spend sp ard is better
yeah but you aren't
She needs to be buffed
How can she be worse than ake
nobody is willing to spend any sp
So bs doesn't matter and antal is ult+xiranite, as I said?
Even just looking at her battle skill at face value without considering buffs or other rotations that would make it stronger, it just seems insanely strong alone
numbers high
i dont disagree they hit her with the numbers hammer in beta2 iirc
is fangyi on end axis?
joke unit
because in beta1 she was a war crime op
Akekuri is Myrtle, ofc she going to be better than Arclight
so they nerfed her too hard
but ake is also a thing yeah
perl is just never coming off
i cant imagine she does
in ult 9 stack sunderblade linked bskill is
Yeah perli stay
Ake still seems kinda meh due to thermite
Wait will perli use her battle skill
ake on thermite is just never not good
What I mean is that ake gets less thermite stacks than arc
what
isnt the max stacks just 2
Yeah 2
you can either
yeah
fortmaker
its fine
for uge
what level is the electrification in ult normally? you just spam 1stacks right
yep
Just because of the new piece
off piece seals

Thermite is sp or link no? Ake gets it from ult and combo but combo isn't going to happen for ult start
oh word
she procs max stacks of thermite off ult
thats how people have been doing it all week
nobody has been doing anything all week actually
Damn, I hate vague wording
you were too busy doomposting to share anything useful ever
you sure are right
I wonder if link on 9 sword ebs is worth for ult start at all then
its speedrun tech
Doesn't ake ult desc actually say it's 3 flares that give sp tho?
that might not even be faster
so like
her combo also hits twice so she also maxes thermite from a combo activation
It's grouped into a single sp value in description so it seems like the flares are just visual
akekuri just maxes thermite anytime she does anything
its very boring gearing
like i guess
you will equip the gear tailor made for her and you will like it!
is there like a blank fangyi export for endaxis or am i changing all the values myself
feed her as much sp as possible
so she stays in ult forever
because her own buffs are so insane that she doesnt care
super ignorant boring ass op
wym stays in ult forever
oh you mean like ult looping
second loop onwards is always smoother
because arclight is in all of them
yep
her uge is so hard to map out rn
Delete arclight so u won't hate every team

fuck you arclight
you can just viberot it based on your own pots and team
WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING
Just bring back op arclight
let cc cry about uge reqs
Zfy amp talent stacks right
yeah she feels like the most viberot op ever
What's a rotation
its not even like laev where you can choose never to use ebs in ult if you have her maxed out silly style
Just spam ebs
should probably ping iana and ask if they're back




