theorycrafting

[icy remnant]

Every single banner we see this from TangTang to Rossi

[rugged vale]

im not saying shes weak

shes probs op

[icy remnant]

Means she can stand to get hugely better over time

Same as Laev ig

Probably a good place to be for main dps units

Since they can pretty much be future proofed via future op releases

[harsh slate]

I wonder what comes next after reaching the Aurora crown

Also heya been I while when I last come back here

[leaden mantle]

does fangyi get more energy based on the electrification level which makes her places more spears?

[drifting quest]

from what I can tell the energy is when a sword deals damage, so it indirectly does scale on elec (2 max)

[leaden mantle]

so it seems you may need the higher levels to accelrate it huh.

[drifting quest]

yes

[leaden mantle]

her ult cost will probably be pretty high :/

[drifting quest]

that it will

[normal tangle]

endfield players when a striker has striker mechanics

[leaden mantle]

honestly, the only thing that's probably is going to make pull her is if perlica's p4 that i spammed throughout the chat

[amber vapor]

Prime theorycrafting image

[leaden mantle]

if perlica's CS on her p4 can give her this, it would be decent qol for fangyi ult gain/sp recovery when the combo skill is off cooldown. Considering its so easy to trigger.

but i think i'm coping at this point

[smoky quarry]

the @GRYPHLINE is genuinely worse than a reddit watermark

[thick terrace]

I honestly at a lost about Contingency Contract

Like what do they expect from us with like 30 operator

[smoky quarry]

I honestly at a lost about Contigency Contract

Why would I do it if it rewards nothing of value?

[thorn shore]

It’s just gonna be abyssal monument but the modifiers are optional and stack

Or at least that’s the gist of it I’ve gotten from hearing OG arknights players talk abt it

So now instead of only having no perfect dodge or SP doesn’t naturally regen, you got both!!

[urban plaza]

It will probably be easy to medium difficulty with rewards

And high difficulty for self imposed challenges and bragging rights

Maybe new medals as well, which would be nice

[smoky quarry]

my gaming edge

[urban plaza]

For the really difficult stuff

[thorn shore]

More medals! Must flex on the people that find my profile via the friends list randomly!

[glass birch]

Roughly around 200 ult energy cost. It's likely the base 10 per skill and additional 5 per shock since you get nearly 25% of her ult energy on cast when she has max swords down (9)

[thick terrace]

Contingency Contract have hype moment and aura

[urban plaza]

Haven't folks already mapped out that its 300 cost?

[thorn shore]

The only thing I hate abt it is they’re teasing us with one of the things that’s needed the most

And it’s not coming in 1.2

What the frick

[urban plaza]

Its a bit meh, but im happy they listen to player feedback

We got a lot nice QoL and stuff coming

[thorn shore]

Besides endgame only thing I really want them to look at is essence and t-cred grind

It’s what 5k sanity per 663 essence

Insane

[urban plaza]

I don't really have a problem with that tbh

Although I only have 4 essence at 663 so far for main units

[glass birch]

not everyone needs a 6/6/3 though

[thorn shore]

I don’t log in daily, like I skipped from maybe a couple of days into Yvonne banner to a couple of days before Rossi banner

So now I’m miles behind in sanity

[glass birch]

majority only needs like 1/1/3 or 6/1/3 or somewhere in-between

[urban plaza]

Yeah like support units
What do i need perfect Thermite essence for
With units like Akekuri

[thorn shore]

Feels bad trying to get rossi and tangtang essence max

And eventually hopefully Yvonne’s

All I got rn is Laev max

And soon I’ll have fangyi’s

Pain in my bum

[urban plaza]

I have Lae (which luckily doubles for Stanza), LR, TT and Fangyi prepared

[thorn shore]

Yeah LR I’ll probably have to do too whenever I feel like playing her

Ember too she’s on my bucket list but very low priority

Just cause she’s hot

[urban plaza]

And so far thats enough for 2 good teams

Will see what units end up with Fangyi

[compact bridge]

Be thankful, other games have infinite sanity grind for their gear

[torn pilot]

Any theorycrafters thought about zhuang teams?

[drifting quest]

no because it all depends on her numbers

only stuff as far as perlica seems good, arclight does not, gilberta probably isnt, etc

could very easily change when we see her talents, weapon, other gear pieces, uge req, dam numbers, missing parts of kit, etc.

[uncut schooner]

why not arclight?

[drifting quest]

bunch of fundamental kit issues with arclight

and some anti synergy

[uncut schooner]

i don't think we'll find a better options

[drifting quest]

there's quite a lot of potential options

we're simply waiting for proper kit info to sort through them and see

[rugged vale]

fangyi perlica frontier bot stanza bot

[torn pilot]

Stanza won’t work with fangyi

Assuming she’s electro

[rugged vale]

I didnt mean perlica on stanza

[drifting quest]

ardelia, gilberta, xaihi etc

can still hold it

[uncut schooner]

xaihi?

for arts amp?

[echo cove]

Xaihi prolly not

[drifting quest]

tangtang xaihi fangyi viberot

that gives fangyi the skill

buff

entirely speculative, unlikely to be good

you get the idea

[echo cove]

Yeah

[drifting quest]

people are so desperate to viberot and feelscraft before release

[uncut schooner]

but what to do with sp gen?

[drifting quest]

so we have garbage like this

[rugged vale]

nothing to do

[drifting quest]

we dont even know if she has sp issues yet

[uncut schooner]

active BS spam, ofc has

[drifting quest]

we dont know if she has sp refund, if you have reason not to bskill as often, if natural gen is sufficient

etc etc

[uncut schooner]

i think one of the next chars will be vang

[drifting quest]

at the very least if sp gen is required arclight certainly isnt the first one to go to fix it

[echo cove]

Yknow, lr bs spam too and she has no sp issue

[uncut schooner]

lr it's last rite?

[echo cove]

Yep

U don't see any vanguard in lr team

[uncut schooner]

yeah

[drifting quest]

the main point is that

we do not know fangyi's entire kit

[uncut schooner]

but she doesn't have direct active spam in all rotations.

[drifting quest]

we don't know what her issues are if any

any speculation is purely that

and historically trying to speculate has been unproductive

[uncut schooner]

yeah ofc, but some people make guesses based on showcase

[echo cove]

Wut?

[drifting quest]

yes, this always happens

it will continue to happen

the issue is that the one time people are right they will use it to validate their future bad takes, ignoring every time it has been wrong

you also get (dumb) people who will look at prerelease and take it as gospel and go waste resources on units who end up not being good

see all the various rossi teams, even tangtang stuff

[uncut schooner]

Last Right doesn't always spam her skill, and she also has SP return. (Tangtang too)

[outer ermine]

pretc moment

[echo cove]

Am talking abt the old lr pre tt

U almost always spam her bs

[echo cove]

Which is shuo's point

[drifting quest]

i loathe to call it tc because there's no actual tc being done

its prefeelscraft

[echo cove]

Am just giving u example of chara that self sustain even tho she spam bs

[outer ermine]

true

[drifting quest]

i still remember the pretc tt incident

hundreds of man hours into frame analysis, pixel analysis, etc into tt video

was like 0/8 of the guesses

might have been 1/8

[uncut schooner]

well, maybe

anyway we'll see at release

[drifting quest]

Pretty much my entire point

just wait for numbers and go from there

first glances dont mean much

[uncut schooner]

Oh, btw, question about Perlica's P4.
Is that the effect buff x1.33?
I just saw an opinion that it's specifically the second level of electrification.

[uncut schooner]

I understand, I just want to keep myself busy.

[drifting quest]

I was told a while back its l2 by a dataminer
It could have changed or they could be wrong

Either waiting for one I asked recently to confirm or patch to go live to test

[normal tangle]

enough feelscrafting fangyi, lets start tcing vampire guy

vibecrafting promax

[uncut schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/gugugaga-penguin-gif-2647282229865301925

[drifting quest]

Vampire = blood
Blood comes from body
Body has fist
Fist is physical

New physical crusher

[normal tangle]

no way

i should start going all in on phys team right now just for him

[echo cove]

Blood is water too, so cryo

[drifting quest]

tangtang already covered that

[echo cove]

Phy cryo hybrid!?

[normal tangle]

omg new shatter unit

[echo cove]

Then blood is red, so fire

[normal tangle]

vampire shatter premium

[echo cove]

Fire mdps seem to have lifesteal too for sum reason

So

[normal tangle]

wait but he has dragon wings or whatever

so he will be essential for overworld mobility due to his special double dash being a flight

am i cooking lmk

[echo cove]

Atp, just let him be aether

[daring dove]

Cool keep all the husbando's on PHY teams so I don't have to even consider pulling them.

[fossil pendant]

anyone know if it's better to artifice the secondary% lines on xaihi first or the actual int stats on chest and whatnot

too lazy to do the math rn

I did the math it's the secondary lines 🥀

[glass birch]

I still find it funny how people thinking Fangyi will make Arclight usable. When they both fight over wanting to consume Electrification. Lol

Ake would still be a better choice overall for more sp on demand over gaining what? Like 20 SP every 200 SP spent?

[lucid vine]

% first I think

[warped sinew]

today's survival training was nice to solo ember, finishers one shot

[daring dove]

I'm lowkey a bit worried about Fangyi if I'm honest. She seems stuck to a mono-electric team & can't even enable herself like Leavatain can.

She better have some seriously high damage to make up for those shortfalls.

[night jackal]

Do we have any thoughts on teams for her outside of the 2 shown in the reveal?

[drifting quest]

no

we are missing large amounts of her kit

so we cannot make any actually useful conclusions

[night jackal]

We didn't see what any of her passives were did we? I just remember the BA, BS, CS and Ult

[drifting quest]

no passives, no additional skill/combo/ult effects, no weapon passive, no potentials, no ult cost, no combo cooldown, no multipliers, etc.

[night jackal]

I felt like we got more for TangTang and Rossi when they were revealed.

[daring dove]

Pure speculation would say the team I'm most confident in rn would be Fangyi / Pelica / Ardelia / Akekuri, but like Shuo said there's too much unknown about her right now. My general conclusion for the moment is she's in dire need of an electric version of Tangtang releasing.

[drifting quest]

ive said it a bunch but her kit does scream of creating a problem to sell a solution

yvonne reeked of it and then tangtang came along

[night jackal]

Yvonne and TangTang were made for each other lol.

[uncut schooner]

why Akekuri?

[drifting quest]

i would not bat an eyelid if mifu is 1.3 and solves all of fangyi's issues

[night jackal]

I'm guessing sp battery and link

[drifting quest]

link, thermite holder, potentially frontiers holder, sp chunk

[daring dove]

Least terrible SP support in a team that needs a lot of SP.

[drifting quest]

too early to say if its seals ake or frontier ake, if ake is even run

[normal tangle]

this guy is still doomposting the same thing over and over again word for word

[night jackal]

I was hoping for a team to finally use Arclight

[normal tangle]

do you have nothing better to do than engagement bait a discord server lmfao

[drifting quest]

its possible

im not a believer but it could happen

[uncut schooner]

you can only spend link on 1 skill

[drifting quest]

yes

[uncut schooner]

otherwise i agree

[night jackal]

Like you guys have said though there are still many holes in her kit that we know nothing about so maybe just maybe she will work with more units than what we are thinking

[drifting quest]

if her 9 sword bskill damage is sufficient then link is very good
if its not then link is a minor bonus
if sp is needed earlier in the rot then it naturally becomes a lot more wasted

there's also the idea that if someone like rossi ends up on the team as a 4th slot that you can link off onto rossi ult or something

its pointless to speculate on all this so early, however

[normal tangle]

i mean it’s pointless but what else are you gonna do lol

[drifting quest]

something productive

[normal tangle]

gryph insists on giving us absolutely nothing to talk about and hint at nothing

there is no other topic to discuss

[icy remnant]

Time to discuss AK

[drifting quest]

i mean that's a product of this server not tc itself

[icy remnant]

Whos rolling for Silverash

[drifting quest]

other tc communities are active without discussing fangyi

its just there are no theorycrafters in this server lol

[normal tangle]

other tc communities don’t have an orwellian off topic policy

[night jackal]

Honeslty for some reason I'm getting Imbutator Lunae Dan Heng(the OG one) vibes from her.

[icy remnant]

There’s nothing much to even TC for anyways
Just wait till the CC risks come out and then we can actually try to min max risk

[drifting quest]

150 pulls day 1 and a cope

hopefully i finish early, but if I have to go deep i spark skalter at least

[icy remnant]

I hope I get some units Im missing

I didnt actually count the number of pulls i have

[drifting quest]

best case i off rate wisadel so i can finally stop doing wisadel starts in is6

[icy remnant]

However much this is I hope this is enough to get me something nice

[drifting quest]

you've got way more than me lmao

[icy remnant]

I’ve never spent those Origeos outside of skins

[drifting quest]

im at like 40k orundum, 120 or so OP and then cert buyout for the 38 or so regularp ulls

[icy remnant]

I might now tho

[night jackal]

At this point I'm just gonna wait till she is released to see if she is worth pulling for. My Avywenna team is built and performs fine. Was hoping for a good 6* electric dps though. Next I want a nature DPS

[drifting quest]

a lot of nice skins this patch, ill consider grabbing a few if I get sash and pram early

[drifting quest]

the normal advice, yes

give it several days, if not a week or two and check in

[normal tangle]

you have 35 whole days for tc to settle

[outer ermine]

so sadge i miss the halloween skins w taya

was gonna buy all of em

[icy remnant]

If we say the longer you delay the better
Best to pull on the rerun banners xd

[night jackal]

I got TangTang really early and I skipped Rossi so I have like 47k obs.

[icy remnant]

Highest pull efficiency

[normal tangle]

not if the rerun banners are as terrible as this one lmao

[daring dove]

Best advice would be to not even pull for her until we see what characters are revealed in 1.3. But lets be honest most of us including myself will anyway.

[icy remnant]

It’s not terrible at all

[normal tangle]

it steals an arsenal pull from u

[glass birch]

She doesnt really have an issue enabling herself outside not being able to self-proc her CS outside of ult. Her BS still generates 1 sword when it doesnt consume electrification

[drifting quest]

i dont think there's a huge amount of skins i dont own that i really want, but there's definitely some

a lot of skins for limited units i dont own that i skipped for obvious reasons thatd be nice

[icy remnant]

Math it out yourself and you’ll realise it’s actually better than the normal banner in terms of average rolls per target 6 star assuming you want both limited units

[icy remnant]

No it doesn’t?

You know selectors give arsenals right

[drifting quest]

we dont know if it does or doesnt

[normal tangle]

?

no they don’t

[drifting quest]

the free selector we got for a standard unit didnt give any arsenal tokens

this one might

[normal tangle]

the selector we have does not give arsenal

[drifting quest]

we dont know

[icy remnant]

Huh

[normal tangle]

idk why it would be any different

[icy remnant]

That’s news to me

[glass birch]

Selectors give arsenal?

[drifting quest]

id like to assume this one will

[icy remnant]

Anyways average pull per target 6 star is way cheaper than normal banner

[drifting quest]

but we dont know because it isnt out

[daring dove]

Why are people talking about selectors are we getting another one.

[icy remnant]

Like way way cheaper

[normal tangle]

rerun banner spark is a selector

[icy remnant]

From the rerun banners

120 will be a selector

Instead of a pity

[daring dove]

Ah, so we can pick any of the 4 at that point?

[icy remnant]

A selector is better than a pity any day

[normal tangle]

yeah

[edgy crater]

basically paying 120 pull for 1 selector

[drifting quest]

its contingent on not having bad luck

its worse for chasing a specific rate up

before the endless debates of backpulling

[normal tangle]

laev p1 is good anyway so you can cope

[icy remnant]

Let’s just say you’re not gonna want to win the 50/50 at like 110 pulls

[normal tangle]

if you miss you still hit

i’m happy with anyone but pog if i fail

his potentials blow

[icy remnant]

Back pulling is a lot less relevant right now when these units really just released not that long ago

[normal tangle]

i won the 5050 at 112 pulls on laeva banner

[daring dove]

That's a nice system indeed, considering the only potential I'm missing in the entire game right now is 1 Pog potential that could definitely tempt me to hit that banner up if Fangyi banner doesn't deliver him.

[drifting quest]

naturally but there is still argument for backpulling being bad

see the huge amounts of people insistent on comparing fangyi to laev

[icy remnant]

Now imagine if you have a selector at 120 instead to pick Gilberta

It’s just better than the normal banner by a mile

[normal tangle]

or i could just pick at the start and get the bond quota and tokens anyway

[icy remnant]

Pick at the start?

[normal tangle]

like other games

[icy remnant]

Huh

[normal tangle]

choose an op to get the 50% rate up

[icy remnant]

You mean a normal rerun banners

[normal tangle]

instead of choosing at the spark

yeah

[icy remnant]

Nah man that would just mean the normal banner coming back

And the pity system

I’ll take the spark

[drifting quest]

the argument is that if you lose to the unit you want at like 110 you can still get another at 120

its contingent on you losing to the unit you want, losing that deep and wanting multiple units

[normal tangle]

coping for the 1% ig

[drifting quest]

the main issue is that people will take an arguably niche situation and make it seem like the banner is amazing as a result

[icy remnant]

It is not 1%

[daring dove]

That's pretty cool though, giving Gilberta skippers a second chance at 100% Gilberta. Although I'd of preferred they suffer until version 1.6 at least.

[icy remnant]

It is not niche either

[normal tangle]

i’d still rather get the bond quota and arsenal tokens

but whatever

[uncut schooner]

for example?

[drifting quest]

private subservers

public tc got pushed away pretty early on

now its either know the right people to get in or deal with a public server like this

[normal tangle]

this guy shuo is in like 7 diff tc servers bro

[drifting quest]

a lot of the ones im in specifically dont invite new people

[normal tangle]

i join a random server and he’s in there chatting

[drifting quest]

im in this one, guobas, maygis and prydwen

for public spaces

i dont know if more exist

[daring dove]

Did OG Ark knights have a standard banner like this game btw?

[drifting quest]

then there's i think 8 or 9 group chat subservers im in

[drifting quest]

no

[normal tangle]

you’ve gotta get tired of it bruh

[drifting quest]

there's standard and limited pools
any new unit that isnt limited joins the standard pool

standard banner is 2 semi random units from the standard pool, rotating every 2 weeks

[uncut schooner]

sadly

[uncut schooner]

mb mrpokke

[edgy crater]

pulling 60 pull on a single op just to be spook on the next banner

[drifting quest]

i bought bagpipe with certs way back when i started

and then off rated her

a week later

im still not p5

im like p4

[daring dove]

Ah shame I was hoping to get an idea if there's going to be a point of me saving me standard banner pulls once I get all standard banner characters P5. I guess the safe option is just to save because it might be like Genshin where new standard characters get added over time.

[icy remnant]

You know I’m kind of tired of trying to explain why a spark is better than a pity especially when you can play around with soft pity and do single rolls

You are free to feel that the reroll banner is trash

[drifting quest]

i dont think its trash

but i do think its bait

👍

[icy remnant]

My opinion is that all gacha banners are baits so I choose the ones that can give me the best ones

[drifting quest]

a valid take

[icy remnant]

Best rates to get most targetted 6 star units will be joint op banners with 2 6 stars you want

And it’s a lot better than pulling on initial banners In terms of pulls per average targetted 6 star

[normal tangle]

not a single person is pulling on that banner for laev

[icy remnant]

It’s not a marginal improvement and it’s actually quite massive

[normal tangle]

you have electric laev running alongside her

[icy remnant]

Sure but now I have the option of chilling and rolling for Rossi and Fangyi at the same time

Instead of rolling for Fangyi

[vapid flame]

I want laev 😭

[daring dove]

Problem with this game is there's literally no way of knowing which characters will be the good ones ahead of time. Even on release we're largely speculating on future potential. Only characters I'd say are close to safe pickups right now are Tangtang & Gilberta.

[icy remnant]

Rolling on reroll banners is the best way to only roll on good banners too yes
Power of hindsight is OP

[drifting quest]

its going to be amusing seeing people skip current or future banners assuming we'll get a JO for them later and then JO never comes

[icy remnant]

Yea that will be the risk

If enough people complain that the rerun banner is trash they might just not do it again

[outer ermine]

thatd be funni

[icy remnant]

Even though statistically it’s probably one of the more insane ways to do reruns

[normal tangle]

it’s better if you want multiple sure

[icy remnant]

Normies will dictate whether something feels bad or not and that’s all that matters

[drifting quest]

ive already seen a ton of people advising people to skip banners and only pull on JO from now on

actually insane take

[normal tangle]

but they pit one good op with a not good op and everyone only ever wants one of them

[icy remnant]

Congrats you have the power of free will

[daring dove]

What is JO?

[icy remnant]

If a banner isn’t good for you don’t pull

[drifting quest]

Joint Op
name of the similar (but not the same) banner type in original arknights

[icy remnant]

Combined banners are called Joint Ops in Arknights

They only allow certain operators to be pulled

No spooks

[daring dove]

Ah fair, I'm guessing they where only ever re-run characters as well?

[drifting quest]

example standard and kernel banners too while im at it

[daring dove]

You had to take 50/50 life first time around?

[icy remnant]

My hope is they just run it by sequence

So the next one is possibly Yvonne TangTang and maybe Lastrite as standard unit

Which is also an insane banner

And then Rossi Fangyi

[drifting quest]

They run them alongside harder endgame modes and usually (but not always) have more meta units in them

or well, no sanity cost combat events i should say

[icy remnant]

The full Cryo squad Joint op banners would be hilarious for new players

[drifting quest]

current one is a coop event

[icy remnant]

Roll 1 banner for full meta Cryo team

[drifting quest]

and then hool is not a good unit

[icy remnant]

But yea I am personally in the camp of being open to just rolling in joint ops if they say it’s gonna be a perma feature

And they give it some form of consistency

[drifting quest]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Headhunting/Banners/2025

Gives a good idea of the various types of banner in AK and what might be ported to Endfield in time

[icy remnant]

Like rerun in sequence

And its not like I can’t roll on normal banners anyways if I want a unit way more than anything else

[vapid flame]

my conspiracy theory for JO banners is they choose the ops to make it 50/50 for as many players as possible

[icy remnant]

If anything it gives me the option to save pulls for double banners to maximise target rate ups if I choose to do so

Overall it’s only a net positive

[drifting quest]

there's been JO in the past that are generally speaking 4/4 hits

[daring dove]

I mean I suppose it's like most gacha games the first time a character runs is usually the worse time to pick them up from a value prospective.

[vapid flame]

maybe I'm unlucky lol

[drifting quest]

not always and if you own units then that goes down

but like this one is 4/4 hits really

maybe not at peak meta shill stuff

[icy remnant]

I’ll be waiting for Ines to come to cert shop

I give up on bagpipe

[drifting quest]

she's been and gone

prob a while before she's back

[edgy crater]

just w8 for selection on kernel n buy her lol

[daring dove]

Yeah, the other side of the argument is when a character first releasses they're usually the strongest they'll ever be within a given meta. An their value usually always diminishes over time. Well outside of them getting their planned support / extension units.

[drifting quest]

backpulling is historically not great for these type of gacha

you'd hope endfield is different in that respect

but you never know

[icy remnant]

The worst thing you can do is rolling something that turns out to be trash

Like right now I’m betting Rossi ages horribly

Focusing on single target in a game which has CC coming soon

[drifting quest]

CC could easily be single target

[icy remnant]

Sure some

The harder ones will probably not be

[drifting quest]

if its base + rotating sites too then it'd be both

[icy remnant]

The single target CCs will probably be considered the easy ones

[normal tangle]

i agree that single target chars are not good but i don’t think cc is part of this

[drifting quest]

If I were betting id expect nefarith is the main site

Single target

[icy remnant]

As in easy/hard CCs as a whole

[daring dove]

I mean, she's pretty flexible. So she'll find her way into a lot of teams. I don't think she'll age horribly to be honest. I do think she's not as safe as characters like Tangtang & Gilberta of course.

[normal tangle]

single target is already pretty much trim-exclusive

[icy remnant]

Like CC1 being piss easy cus Nefa is the boss

[normal tangle]

you’ll never see last rite in the open world

[daring dove]

But for a character you can throw into any team Rossi is pretty good.

[icy remnant]

And then CC2 having like 5 worms

[vapid flame]

would be really funny if rhodagn is cc boss

[normal tangle]

i think her bridge between arts and phys gives her some longevity idk

[icy remnant]

Pretty good at dealing damage to a single target

That’s all she has

[normal tangle]

like any hybrid phys arts unit would like her

in theory

[icy remnant]

Laev will probably age better than Rossi

[daring dove]

I dunno about that one, that's certainly a hot take.

Not that I mind people having them.

[normal tangle]

just you wait until 2.8 when ardashir comes out and he’s heat phys

[icy remnant]

Well assuming she can get uge

If she can’t Ult then gg

[drifting quest]

I dont think either will age well because the new units they want to sell will take over

Powercreep comes for everyone

[icy remnant]

Aging well can very well be relevant in getting risk 18

[normal tangle]

supports have a better chance of aging than anyone else i think

[icy remnant]

Rossi might be a case of this unit can’t even be used for risk 18 because you need to focus on AoE

[drifting quest]

We have 1 support and she's not set up to age amazingly

[outer ermine]

inb4 r18 solo catcher

[drifting quest]

So hard to say

[normal tangle]

wym

[drifting quest]

Gilb has a ton of issues that just arent real issues this early on

[daring dove]

I mean I think the power creep we've seen so far as been faster than I seen in the early versions of Genshin to be honest. Nowhere near as bad as the later version though.

That said it could of just been early 1.0 stuff lacking.

[drifting quest]

I havent seen any powercreep in ef yet myself so idk

[icy remnant]

Like for risk 18 it’s fairly possible Laev can still be relevant by dodging uge tags even if it’s single target focused

But you can’t just make Rossi deal AoE damage

[normal tangle]

such as?

[drifting quest]

This still assumes aoe will become a hard requirement

[normal tangle]

is it the nature inflictions? the vuln?

[drifting quest]

Low uptime to higher downtime
Nature inflictions
Do nothing unit for a while in 0 ult start content
Pretty weak sig with a reliance on uge line
Slow anims for weaving in bskill or combo

[daring dove]

Tangtang felt really overtuned in my prospective & Rossi felt like a better less restricted Yvonne to me. But being better than Yvonne wasn't exactly a high bar. Gilberta is a similar level to Rossi / Tangtang though.

[icy remnant]

Yvonne’s benefit of being ranged

Will matter

[drifting quest]

She certainly wont be falling off anytime soon

[icy remnant]

Dps isn’t all there is if we’re going to be looking at risk tags

[drifting quest]

Ultimately this is just fangyi discussions mark 2

Speculating on stuff we havent seen

Good for ragebaiting not much else

[edgy crater]

not yet, wheres the rissk list

[icy remnant]

Speculating on what is possible is nice I would argue
Situations where units can shine and won’t shine

[normal tangle]

i still don’t understand the issue you have with everything speculative

this version is over and hg gives us nothing about future versions

there is nothing else to do twin

[icy remnant]

There’s nothing wrong with speculating on possible risk tags and trying to value units beforehand to prepare for it

[normal tangle]

what do you want us to do? tc more shitty shatter teams?

combustion dps?

[icy remnant]

Even CC1 risk tags won’t be the same as CC2

[daring dove]

I mean you don't really need to control Rossi either, I usually play Tangtang in Rossi team to resolve the problem. But that isn't an option for all her teams granted.

[drifting quest]

A) encourages poor practice
B) mostly starts pointless arguments
C) makes actual tc harder to do when we are pushed down rabbit holes that go nowhere, delaying actually relevant tc on launch
D) promotes a vibe of feelscrafting that just brings the state of the channel down

im not stopping anyone who wants to

[icy remnant]

TangTang is probably one of the strongest units to me
Rossi ain’t up there beside her though

[drifting quest]

doesnt mean i dont like it, nor do many others who tc

(part of the reason they all left)

[tight haven]

its fake tc

its fine to do here

but i think it devalues this channel

[drifting quest]

quite

[icy remnant]

Devalue from what else are we actually doing here

There has never been real tc for a day I’ve lurked

[drifting quest]

what minor amounts of tc still happen

but again most people who did it quit so if you take it from that approach who cares

[normal tangle]

there’s real tc when content drops

and then we finish the content and that’s it

2 days of real shit before whatever else happens

[drifting quest]

there's a saying i forget

something about refusing to clean because it's already dirty

[normal tangle]

that is not what we’re doing though

you’re a gardener insisting on watering a very dead plant in soil with no nutrients

there is NOTHING to tc bro

[icy remnant]

Anyways I stand on the side of speculating on possible scenarios where units can and won’t shine being important

[drifting quest]

there's plenty to do

[tight haven]

yeah its fine but then dont be shocked when people dont engage in actual tc in this channel and just argue endlessly abt minutiae instead of testing things out

[drifting quest]

idk where you get the idea that there's nothing to tc from

[tight haven]

its the culture that speculation fosters

[normal tangle]

what else is there

[drifting quest]

ive been testing new physical gear setups this past week personally

there's a ton of rossi stuff to do still

tangtang has a decent chunk still

yvonne and lr stuff is still being optimised

laev has new stuff to mess around with but that to a degree overlaps with rossi

i could rattle off another 10 if you want

[normal tangle]

optimize for what though

trims?

[drifting quest]

there's some people working on super extended rot stuff

[icy remnant]

One shot Rhodagn faster

[drifting quest]

and then there's the usual speedrun optimising stuff

[vapid flame]

even if there were consensus on what tc should be, no new pins or active mods makes it hard for good info to win..seems kinda doomed

[normal tangle]

active mods are for sure not the issue

[icy remnant]

But yea speculating about scenarios where a unit can and won’t shine is basically TCing pull value

[drifting quest]

lack of mods is a huge issue

[normal tangle]

maybe if a tcer was mod but otherwise it’d be even worse

[drifting quest]

but also like i would not expect anything to change

[icy remnant]

TC doesn’t even necessarily need to be about combat
What if I went into the math about pulling on the rerun banner

[drifting quest]

its beaurcracy stuff from hg thats the main issue, from what i know

in terms of moderation

[daring dove]

I mean speculation is the foundation of theory crafting. If all we ever worked off where confirmed concepts & calcs other people had already done you'd get nowhere in making new discoveries. Sometimes it takes people to put forth new ideas to actually make progress. I think sometimes people like the "sheeting" which isn't really what theory crafting is. That's just an extension that helps finalise an argument. Can't see the forest for the trees when it comes to discovering good rotations & strong team concepts.

[normal tangle]

these mods have no idea what nuance is, they’ll see someone spewing bs in a tc channel, a tcer gets mad and corrects them, and the tcer will get warned for aggression

[icy remnant]

Or the other time I was talking about Arsenal ticket income with 65% op to weapon ratio and being patched up w BP and credit shop to near 1:1 if rolled every 2 banners

[daring dove]

People who are against speculation are in essence anti-theorycrafting in my opinion.

[normal tangle]

if a tc channel gets a mod it needs to be a tcer

[icy remnant]

I think that also counts at TC

[normal tangle]

an outsider modding a tc channel is terrible

[drifting quest]

yeah i was only listing purely combat stuff but dijiang, factory and a ton of other misc stuff is all also tc

[drifting quest]

too bad the only people who tc and wanted to mod applied and got rejected

[normal tangle]

dijiang and factory bros are having a good time in #aic-factory still yeah

[icy remnant]

I also even had that stat for Arsenal ticket income from credit shop

[normal tangle]

because there’s real stuff to optimize there

[icy remnant]

Which was 1200 per month

Assuming you min max everything

On avg ofc

Then they also buffed Oros from credit shop recently

[drifting quest]

1200 a month they say as i do my 4th reroll of the day and get 0 orundum 0 arsenal tickets for the 3rd day in a row

life

[outer ermine]

bully hg to release it early

[edgy crater]

yeah, need to know the risk list

[fiery spoke]

Any idea if new char is good?

[drifting quest]

no

[normal tangle]

i mean, she’s zhuang fangyi so probably

but we only have half a kit and no numbers

so no further details

[icy remnant]

Anyways I have something against the fact that we very highly overrate single target dps right now without knowing if AoE content will be prevalent

So I value units that can deal with both ST and AoE easily

That pretty much sums up what I feel about Rossi

And why I think Laev and TangTang will age pretty well cus they can handle both

[daring dove]

Who actually wants to mod.

[drifting quest]

no spoilers

just in case hg gets back to them weeks to month(s) after their application lmao

(i doubt it happens)

but ndas are involved so im not going to get anyone into potential trouble

by namedropping

if they want to say it they can

[daring dove]

Sign an NDA to work for free

[drifting quest]

yeah lmao

[icy remnant]

By telling you they already breached their NDA

Time for HG to track em down

Gg

[daring dove]

Anyway they should just give me mod powers so I can ban Levi

[drifting quest]

i mean they've all heard nothing from hg

no nda to sign

[lyric latch]

does anyone know the stats of the Xiranflow piece they showed in the Special Program?

[drifting quest]

only the kit

[icy remnant]

I didn’t realise we already got info on anything

[drifting quest]

in the gear qol section

[edgy crater]

we do get a glimpse of it

[drifting quest]

they show off one of the kits and the set effect

[edgy crater]

will int + bs up

[drifting quest]

its in chinese but easily translated

[outer ermine]

was there presets

[icy remnant]

What’s the set effect

[drifting quest]

id have to find the post for the exact wording

[hardy rose]

Share with the class please

[daring dove]

I'll ban @outer ermine as well if anyone is ever stupid enough to give me mod powers.

[swift onyx]

10% atk
When wielder consumes arts reaction, gain 15% arts dmg for 25s, stacking 3 times

For a simple short

[swift onyx]

Basicaly, zhaungs set

[icy remnant]

That’s super specific wth

[outer ermine]

thatd be nice i can stop being lazy to find a good dc

[swift onyx]

From this guy

[drifting quest]

not a great post for tc but a convenient graphic

[icy remnant]

My guess is she will want 3pc of this plus Slab

Cus she has will main stat

And it’s Slab

[drifting quest]

depends on uge req

[icy remnant]

Yep

[drifting quest]

and if other pieces have uge

[icy remnant]

But my fears always come true so it’s gonna be slab

Even if they drop the set

And go double slab

[icy remnant]

Double slab and uge chest and gloves if need be

[edgy crater]

xiranflow set + slab

[swift onyx]

[icy remnant]

All I know is slab will be there

It’s like Thanos

[edgy crater]

most likely

[icy remnant]

If xiranflow set can’t use slab then we will drop xiranflow set and use slabs

[edgy crater]

u can

unless we got shitty xiranflow glove

[swift onyx]

Fuck slabs

They should remove them

[icy remnant]

I can’t believe they actually made a dps with Will main stat

With Slab in the game

[smoky quarry]

wow is that xiranite butterfly knife from cs2???

[lyric latch]

It was that or Oblivion gaming

[icy remnant]

I thought it was gonna be Oblivion gaming

Sadge

But no we get Slab gaming

[daring dove]

Secondary effect is pretty mid, +15% DMG per art reaction consumed. 10% ATK is nice though.

[hardy rose]

Oblivion should still be decent

[smoky quarry]

i still think oblivion will be her top 3 pick

[hardy rose]

Considering all the arts dmg buffs

[icy remnant]

Isn’t Oblivion Int main stat

Mm

[hardy rose]

Yh. So it's a big loss in atk

But u have big multipliers from the middle stat and skill

Also slab

[icy remnant]

okay were talking a very low bar then

[hardy rose]

Can maybe make up for it

[icy remnant]

For top3

[vapid flame]

the competition is sig, bp, oblivion right? what else could be good lol

[hardy rose]

Monaihe as a stat stick

[icy remnant]

There’s no competition
It’s like winning a race with 3 people by coming 3rd

[hardy rose]

Gives uge too and more will

4 people. But fair point

[icy remnant]

If it’s worse than BP p0 there’s just zero reason to use Oblivion on her

[daring dove]

Fangyi is very likely to be a slab character I guess.

[icy remnant]

Maybe we will see a double slab character

wtf is a set effect

[lyric latch]

The Slab merchant

[daring dove]

I reckon she'll hit over 7k ATK once fully artifced if she's getting 49% ATK from set effect + weapon & 1 slab. So she should have the basics to hit hard provided her kit isn't bad.

[icy remnant]

Need to math how much attack she will have with 2 slabs

[swift onyx]

Why is everything slab

[hardy rose]

Do we know her secondary attribute?

[swift onyx]

Int

[daring dove]

I'mma try an just max her for the most part on day one. Although I'll only have 102 artificing materials on-hand.

[vapid flame]

this is known or speculation?

[swift onyx]

Seeing how the xiranflow set is basically hers
Has will main stat, int sub stat
Its safe to say shes int secondary

[hardy rose]

There could be more set pieces

[swift onyx]

Theres not lol

Its that 1 kit, chest and gloves

[hardy rose]

How do you know?

[swift onyx]

They showed it?

[vapid flame]

live stream

[swift onyx]

[hardy rose]

You mean that's all they showed

[swift onyx]

People dont watch shit

[hardy rose]

There could be more

I watched the livestream

[normal tangle]

will int is clearly for ardelia wym

[swift onyx]

There isnt more
Do yk why?
If there was, it would still show up in the gear menu but crossed out like before
But it wasnt
I wonder why

[vapid flame]

int secondary for lore reasons ✌️

[hardy rose]

Wdym show up in the gear menu?

🤔

[swift onyx]

They showed ziranfloe set has only 3 pieces;
Chest, gloves, kit
But only kit stats were shown

[swift onyx]

This
Show up but crossed

If there were more

Maybe there will in fiture
But no on release

[hardy rose]

Cool

Ok

[swift onyx]

I won

[daring dove]

Where are your discs

[swift onyx]

Thats not mine
I stole a random pic off of internet..

[smoky quarry]

Don't you have a redeemer seal?

[swift onyx]

[icy remnant]

So close to greatness sigh

[swift onyx]

What

[vapid flame]

I'm on essence 50 of no zfy match

[lyric latch]

isnt that for the bp one?

[daring dove]

Still no luck hu, just keep saving up hopefully it drops before she releases an you can just dump all the essences into it then.

[icy remnant]

BP one should have electric or smth

Instead of attack

[lyric latch]

oh ic

[icy remnant]

I’m not worried about getting the 1/1/1

They gave us the selector for a reason

I’ll use it if I have to

I’m probably 200+ essences deep though

In trying to find one

[vapid flame]

dang, dedicated

[daring dove]

Yeah I have been saving my selector in-case I ever get massively unlucky myself. Hoping to have my essence 5/6/3 tomorrow.

[icy remnant]

But yea people said the selector was useless

Turns out edge case scenarios are indeed edge case

And do happen

[vapid flame]

I used the selector suboptimally for TT for my own morale

[normal tangle]

i hope progression event thingy gives coolant gel or whatever

something for the essences please

they keep giving us a bunch of progression stuff but essences are still by far the hardest thing to get

[daring dove]

For me I'm more concerned if I ever have to farm an essence I can only get in Wulling. I really don't want to be spending Wulling stock bills on essence tickets.

[normal tangle]

valley crate still gives wuling essences lol

there’s no exclusives

[vapid flame]

need to hold on to the completionist demo

[normal tangle]

you can get laeva sig from it or whatever

[icy remnant]

38x6=228
I’m currently 228 essences deep in trying to find Will Attack Suppression 1/1/1

[daring dove]

You can't get Leavatain's essence in Valley 4

[normal tangle]

you can from the crate

the selector

[icy remnant]

Oh yea imagine getting into this scenario but using WuLing tickets

It’ll be hilarious

The selector is so important to have on hand

[daring dove]

Ah that's cool, yeah I'll save it for the next wulling exclusive character then. Although by that time wulling stock bills may no longer be valuable we'll see.

[vapid flame]

this can't be right..(1-1/24)^228 ??

[icy remnant]

?

[normal tangle]

is there 24 possibilities?

[vapid flame]

1/3 attribute 1/8 3rd stat no?

[icy remnant]

0.06% chance

[normal tangle]

oh yeah there are 8 3rd stats, huh

[normal tangle]

just think of it like you pulled an early char in genshin

[vapid flame]

probability of missing 228 times is (1-p)^228

[icy remnant]

I mean it’s not that big of a deal since there’s still time

I don’t even know if I’ll end up rolling Fangyi this banner

[rugged vale]

and we have the item that gives a perfect essence for free

[icy remnant]

It’s just a good place to farm up essences right now too

[normal tangle]

bro what 😭

why are we farming essence if we don’t plan to pull char

[rugged vale]

because essence is always useful

[icy remnant]

I spam farm essences to get fodder to level other weapons in the future

[vapid flame]

it's the JO agenda

[rugged vale]

wtf else are you gonna use sanity for

[daring dove]

I'm hoping 1.2 goes a long way to making Wulling stock bills more accessible. It'll be nice if we can increase artifice tokens to 100 a week as well.

[normal tangle]

farming an essence you want vro

[daring dove]

Right now you have to be really careful with wulling stock bills.

[icy remnant]

I already have essences for every weapon I want

[rugged vale]

eh even with a badly build aic you can buy all artificing mats

[icy remnant]

Except Fangyis

[normal tangle]

level your thermite or whatever in hopes of future actually useful damaging vanguard

W investment

[hardy rose]

Meanwhile i spend over 600 sanity and only got 6 will stat essences. And none of them were for any of her weapons

[normal tangle]

just pray thermite doesn’t get powercrept by then

[daring dove]

I have about 25 perfect essences all for 6* weapons. I haven't bothered with 5* stuff.

[normal tangle]

you have 25 663 essences?

[daring dove]

Naw pefect match I have about 5 - 6/6/3.

An quite a few close to that.

[icy remnant]

600 sanity is cute @hardy rose

[normal tangle]

oh so you have 5 perfect essences

[hardy rose]

💀

Oof

Just damn

[daring dove]

Perfect essence for me is 3/3 match, maxed out essence is 6/6/3

[normal tangle]

3/3 matches are way too plentiful and common to be called perfect

[icy remnant]

[daring dove]

[hardy rose]

I've already deicded I'm using the selector for her weapon

I still wanna try and grab a perfect essence for monaihe and flickers in the mist (bp)

[normal tangle]

don’t use selector until you at least fully farmed fodder

never know what can happen

[hardy rose]

Icba

[icy remnant]

I’m not sure what other weapon I’m gonna level right now

[hardy rose]

It's there for reason. If i don't use it, I'll horde it

[normal tangle]

bro ur gonna have to farm it anyway

[normal tangle]

deto unit maybe? oblivion? jet? idk

[vapid flame]

isn't that an argument to never use the selector

[hardy rose]

That's what happened with all the weapon selector chests they gave us

[normal tangle]

any of the main attribute things are probably good

[hardy rose]

I didn't use em until recently

[normal tangle]

well don’t use it if you don’t need it

levi might need it

don’t be like levi

[icy remnant]

Given the choice I’d rather use it on a WuLing essence or a future region essence

To save on the region currency

[hardy rose]

[normal tangle]

idk that seems kinda pointless to me

if you have use for it, use it

[vapid flame]

convincing arknights players to not hoard is probably a losing battle

[icy remnant]

I like finding value in things I want to do
Like even when farming essences
Having a goal for an essence to farm for feels good

[normal tangle]

well i guess no reason to use it until you actually have fangyi and her wep

[icy remnant]

It’s when there are no other essences to farm for when it feels boring

Cus you’re just grinding

[rugged vale]

only essence grind worth doing is getting 1000 of them

[vapid flame]

speculatively farm for one of every essence

[icy remnant]

That’s why I wanted to farm essence of every single weapon

[hardy rose]

Oh i don't play ak. But i hoard in games regardless

[icy remnant]

Is it time to shill Arknights

[vapid flame]

I love ak, but no lol

[icy remnant]

Imagine downloading a single player game with 7 years of content for free which you can play at your own convenience with very in depth world building

I say this as someone who quit for 4 years and went back and have an infinite backlog

Cus they release content faster than I finish them

Lvl78 2020 gamer

(This is considered low investment for a lot of people but I think I sunk hundreds of hours)

Maybe thousands idk actually

[drifting quest]

hundreds more likely

i dont think i even have 1000 hours in the game yet and im level 120

[vapid flame]

still shook by level 78

[manic beacon]

yeah was gonna say, surprised it ain't 120 yet

[icy remnant]

My DBD has 1000 hours so that shocked me

[manic beacon]

did they ever uncap that

[drifting quest]

120's been the cap since I started

[icy remnant]

I uh

Just don’t play as much as some I guess

I haven’t been around for 4 years

Wasn’t lying

I redownloaded AK once I saw M3

[hardy rose]

M3 is in ak as well?

[icy remnant]

Yep

[manic beacon]

also day1 player, played for 4 years, then 2 month hiatus, played another 6 months, then haven't returned in 2ish years

[drifting quest]

m3 ak design >>> m3 endfield design

[manic beacon]

[icy remnant]

We have no idea why it’s even different to begin with
There’s so much to learn

[hardy rose]

Me hoping for a fiona 4* or 5* this year

[drifting quest]

kalcification

[icy remnant]

It might not even be the same person for all we know shrug
Maybe M3 has sacophoclonejustsu

[hardy rose]

Huh?

[icy remnant]

Im just theorising

We don’t know shit

[vapid flame]

arknights lore stuff, don't worry about it lol

[hardy rose]

Ok

[daring dove]

Does anyone actually want another triple 6* patch btw, I'm personally hoping that was just a 1.0 thing. Hoping 1.3 is two 6*'s an a 5 star.

[warped sorrel]

I have no problem with 3 6* in one patch

[honest hill]

ofc not

I only think they did triple 6* was because of the gacha system losing to two other char

[warped sorrel]

i heard an echo

[honest hill]

I misclicked

[warped sorrel]

what if they continue to have only 1 6* every patch from now on tho

[honest hill]

no they'll alternate between 2 and 1

like every other gacha has done

[daring dove]

I personally feel like there isn't enough focus on making the characters 6* characters as good as they could be when they're releasing 3 per patch. Yvonne really seems to fall off compared to the two earlier characters. Although I admit it's a very small sample size.

But yeah 2 per patch at max I think would be best.

[warped sorrel]

I suspect that they give us a full patch time to pull her
Just because a lot more people can have her eventually
So they can make hardcore content center around her

Which i would be fuck

[honest hill]

if the gacha system wasn't losing to 2 limited char then we wouldn't have triple 6* patch

[warped sorrel]

1.0 characters always fell off tho

[daring dove]

Even compared to Leavatain & Gilberta Yvonne feels lacking. But like I said small sample size so doesn't mean much.

[warped sorrel]

idk i dont have yv

[honest hill]

Yvonne is mid

no one likes to say it

but she gets wheelchaired by her teammates

she can't do anything by herself

[warped sorrel]

maybe it is hg fault cause
Some main dps can inflict something to tricker their own kit which feel better than operator who dont

[drifting quest]

agendaposting will continue until morale improves

[honest hill]

they showed it on stream

[honest hill]

oh yeah did u see xiranflow set

my message failed to send

it seems made for arclight

and maybe wulgard

wulf

[hardy rose]

What's wrong with Yvonne?

[drifting quest]

a few small issues but nothing particularly huge

[warped sorrel]

If that is the case
I can finally let my ake to rest

I will kill her

[honest hill]

noo

I think it's this
"grant 10% attack. Upon consuming a reaction, gain a stack for 25s, each stack grant 15% bonus dmg"

[hardy rose]

Ok👍🏾

[warped sorrel]

To themselves?

[honest hill]

think it's for the team

[warped sorrel]

This changes everything

[drifting quest]

it should be a self buff

[honest hill]

they showed it on the stream but it was in chinese

[warped sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-explosion-explode-watermelon-gif-12269378

[honest hill]

maybe this set is for her

for zhuang

[drifting quest]

its tailor made for her

[honest hill]

rip arclight and wulfgard

[warped sorrel]

If it self buff then nothing change much

[honest hill]

ye rip

hm maybe arclight good w her ult she can give multiple enemies electrification which zhuang will consume

but single target meh

[dry kindle]

Its self

[dry kindle]

Dead chat

[honest hill]

It's your fault

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

tc is always either dead or feelscrafting

find another server if it bothers you i guess

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

the cope is that they only ever want to do mod recruitments in batches or something and once current trainees are promoted or whatnot they take on new trainees who are invested in tc

but cope is cope

[dry kindle]

Brb feelcrafting alesh zfy

[drifting quest]

Is prob real

[honest hill]

F2P comp

[honest hill]

don't think we will get new mods we got plenty of em!

[drifting quest]

it is what it is

gets more miserable here each day

[dry kindle]

Arclight my fraud

[drifting quest]

the cope remains

[dry kindle]

Where'd opal even go anyway

[drifting quest]

no clue

irl prob

[honest hill]

Yeah sadly

[drifting quest]

i was already planning to quit if 1.2 was rough so i dont lose much to dip out anyway

give it a few more days to a week i guess

[edgy crater]

just go alesh dps with tang2 cryobot

[dry kindle]

[honest hill]

That's fair

[drifting quest]

product of the environment fostered

[honest hill]

tbh I will just pull zhuang and 3-7 days later back to doing dailies only

[drifting quest]

there's not much reason to interact with tc as the average user

game is certainly not hard

quality here is especially down too and other servers seem to be getting more active

so alternatives exist now

[dry kindle]

[honest hill]

[dry kindle]

I kinda wanna get dossier

But no tt

[honest hill]

Risky

tsk tsk

[dry kindle]

We fuckin love gambling

[honest hill]

I'm 41 off 80

I could get dossier

But nahh

[edgy crater]

do it

[drifting quest]

fresh pity because i went to 120

smile

[honest hill]

I'm basically guaranteed to get dossier because zhuang

[honest hill]

Fund me

[dry kindle]

Whel

[dry kindle]

I hope you 10 pull zfy

[drifting quest]

i wish i were rich enough

[honest hill]

wow ty

[dry kindle]

Weapon banner

[edgy crater]

no

[honest hill]

I can flex on f2p

[honest hill]

Yeah i forgot ur so poor hmph

[dry kindle]

Surely I can recreate my shu pulls

[honest hill]

Yes

[honest hill]

Damn

What a whel

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[honest hill]

You're a whel

You can't call me whel

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[honest hill]

[inland berry]

wrong server and channel brotein shake

[dry kindle]

Wrong fuckin year but anyway

[edgy crater]

i have p3 shu so cant be salted

[dry kindle]

Whel

[edgy crater]

no

[dry kindle]

Yes

[edgy crater]

[drifting quest]

It begins, i guess

[potent hornet]

so i am really hoping the new CC mode won't just be the "hope you pulled the new character!" mode

[normal tangle]

wgat is that

[potent hornet]

the beginning duh

[drifting quest]

CR doc

[normal tangle]

so true

[drifting quest]

replacement for iana's now that they're probably done with endfield

[normal tangle]

what does cr mean other than crit rate

[drifting quest]

community resource

[normal tangle]

oh

[potent hornet]

wow that didn't last long

[normal tangle]

aren’t you also done with endfield bro

[honest hill]

Damn so cooked

[drifting quest]

no

just this server

[honest hill]

So iana is done w endfield?

[drifting quest]

if fangyi looked near impossible to tc for without owning and then there was another unit as well i would have quit tc

but neither are the case

[drifting quest]

no clue, havent seen them in a while

[honest hill]

Maybe busy

[drifting quest]

they had mentioned potentially quitting before so waiting to see if they come back

[honest hill]

oof

Eventually no one will be left

[drifting quest]

if they do depends if they plan to stay tc'ing and if they are if they if they plan to continue the doc

[honest hill]

It's too bad there's no media server to test all this

[drifting quest]

there's a cc server

[honest hill]

Oh

[drifting quest]

its just private

NDA'd

[honest hill]

rip

[drifting quest]

im also not a cc

[honest hill]

is tc just dead then

Well here

[drifting quest]

probably yes

[honest hill]

rip

[drifting quest]

there's like morbika and the person they tc with a bit

and thats about it

but morbika got muted again

[honest hill]

damn

[drifting quest]

so hard to say if they'll be around in future either

[dry kindle]

ProbablyTM

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

they posted that liduke art

[potent hornet]

ehh, i forsee the leavers coming back once the main story is actually complete

[drifting quest]

none of the people who quit have come back

they all just stick to subservers lol

main story certainly wouldnt change that

[dry kindle]

[honest hill]

so many ppl on my friendlist quit

They can be lv 60

Then just stop playing

[drifting quest]

oh i thought we were still talking about the people who tc

[honest hill]

Well that too

tc is cooked here

[potent hornet]

i mean, the fact that there is only one doc pinned for the last 2 months in the TC channel was never a good sign

[honest hill]

Yeah

[drifting quest]

no mods

[potent hornet]

and yet, people get banned

[honest hill]

That as well...

I don't think mods wanna talk to any of us

[knotty yoke]

Is there another place I can go to see active theorycrafting or is this pretty much what we got

[drifting quest]

Maygi's server is the most active for theorycrafting stuff

[potent hornet]

it would also help when we have content to actually theory craft over. As is the game can almost be played blindfolded