theorycrafting

[lime bear]

at 80th pull

[limpid shadow]

its only those 4

its Joint Operation

[bronze plume]

its the worst thing they coulda done wit it buts its better then just removing the 10 pull thing at 60 even if it is a weird add on in the first place

[digital sinew]

long wait till vampire boi..

[limpid shadow]

but with a guarantee

[lime bear]

wtf isn't this really fucking good? so 80 pull is just normal JO + selector anyway at 120

[bronze plume]

unironically one of the higher sources of standard pulls since launch

[icy remnant]

Overall it’s a pretty good deal for people who want both limiteds since if you luck into one you can pity the other

[limpid shadow]

yup

Arknights could never!

[icy remnant]

Its better than the pity in our normal system

[lime bear]

JO wish they could had this 😭

I got fucked 2 times before trying to get Ines

[icy remnant]

Yea this is better than JO

[bronze plume]

me when arknights you can just buy 6 star operators with certs

[icy remnant]

I’ve waited so long

For them

That I quit and came back 2 times

[limpid shadow]

very old ops 🤫
stinky

[lime bear]

after one year smh

[bronze plume]

and yet in ak said old ops are still usable

[limpid shadow]

I wonder how long 1 year old operators could last in Endfield

but with the lack of anything tryhard, hard to gauge atm

[icy remnant]

This is probably the best part
And also why I ignore all the peeps talking about how many pulls they get in HSR

[bronze plume]

it aint looking good for laev so far hopefully not the same for gilberta

[icy remnant]

Doesn’t matter if your unit gets power crept into nothing

[lime bear]

tbh at first powercreep are very rare for like first 4 years, then after Wis every new ops are just fucking cracked as hell

[dry kindle]

Ak ops cool until yk

They get moved to kernel

[limpid shadow]

the death of flagpipe

[bronze plume]

thats literally just limited ops in ak thing

[limpid shadow]

kinda overblown imo

[icy remnant]

Kernel is one of the best things that could have happened for the cert shop

[lime bear]

Ines Incident, flagpipe still very comfy tho

[icy remnant]

Now we have double the shop operators

[limpid shadow]

fr fr

[icy remnant]

If you’re missing nightingale you don’t need to bash your head and wait a year

Or two

For them to appear in cert shop

Surtr too

Or bagpipe

Kernel banner was needed

[bronze plume]

itll be interesting to see how they do reruns now tho if 1.3 is a double banner again assuming 1.3 and 1.4 is the 3 teased ops + the birb

tho hopefully we get some 5 stars

[limpid shadow]

kernel banner is just a landfill for ancient operators

[icy remnant]

This should be how reruns will be

IMO

Also a pretty fair way to rerun

Concurrently with current banner

[bronze plume]

im not talking about how they do the reruns its not surprising they made their banners similar to og ak stuff im talking about when

[dry kindle]

Where my certs

[lime bear]

Laev stonks rise with proper Heat Support trust

[limpid shadow]

i would imagine one 4* every new major version (like once a year) as a baseline operator for some new gimmick or mechanic

[lime bear]

pls let it be Mi Fu prayge

[bronze plume]

shit we call that a rossi buff

[dry kindle]

Laev stonks when gun stanza for wulf

[icy remnant]

I’m still holding on to the certs I held for a year trying to find bagpipe before I quit
And now I came back and still waiting for bagpipe

[limpid shadow]

simply top op + vanguard

[icy remnant]

I played AK for so long now and I still haven’t seen bagpipe in cert shop

Waiting for Kernel shop to change to her and buy her and get it over with

[dry kindle]

Just be luckier

[bronze plume]

just buy the op selector pack on the anniversaries

just whale 4head

[icy remnant]

I don’t want to

I might buy the selector for Mon3tr though

[limpid shadow]

silverash alter event and then fangyi event 2 days later

busy busy week

[icy remnant]

She’s probably the reason I came back

[dry kindle]

Its fun n games till we get bagpipe recon as 1.0 anni

[bronze plume]

im just a lim event andy now

[icy remnant]

Saw M3 in Endfield and just went to redownload Arknights

[bronze plume]

honestly if we do get a reconvener for 1st anni in ef itll be one of the big ones

[limpid shadow]

Sadly...

[icy remnant]

You pulling for Silverash?

[bronze plume]

i have 20 pulls so define pulling

[icy remnant]

I have 30

[bronze plume]

actually 40 if you count my other account

[icy remnant]

I win

Shit

[bronze plume]

jokes on you i have 2 accounts double the free 10 pull

[lime bear]

isn't Oripathy required for an op to become Reconvener unconfirmed

or just a theory

[bronze plume]

its just a theory because every reconvener has been infected in og ak

[icy remnant]

We don’t even know how the story to proceed and how they want to work with Priestess

[limpid shadow]

its just a theory but it makes logical sense

I personally just treat it ironically

[bronze plume]

Eyja. Surtr, Hellagur, Aurora, Ange

where all infected

[dry kindle]

Needed

[icy remnant]

Anyone can be a reconvener and it won’t be out of place depending on how they write things in OG AK

[limpid shadow]

like haha you can't get any of the current female sankta as reconveners, stop coping!

[lime bear]

is SA infected

[dry kindle]

Kinda hard to have originium data if you're not infected

[bronze plume]

granted it makes sense they need to be infected because they have to have their data assimilated into the hive mind

[limpid shadow]

he shouldn't be, bro is in Kjerag 💀

[bronze plume]

to be "reborn"

[limpid shadow]

even though the upcoming event is literally about Kjerag facing their first catastrophe

so uh

[lime bear]

eh just dump their corpse to originium coffin or something

[bronze plume]

guys if i stab pozy with a rock needle is there a chance

[lime bear]

works the same way

[icy remnant]

Like if the story heads towards Rhodes Island working w Priestess they can easily get assimilated and it would make sense

[lime bear]

😄

[dry kindle]

Anyway

[icy remnant]

We don’t know how anything will go

[dry kindle]

Frostnova recon 1.0

[bronze plume]

i do wonder if and when endfield will go to a more Rhodes Island story and we like go there

but rn its just fuck boi aether twink

[limpid shadow]

huge drama if that happens
"no she needs to stay dead, that's the whole point grr!!!"

[icy remnant]

I need Warfarin and M3 to interact

My theory is that Aether is another byproduct of Originium

[lime bear]

Skadi Reconvener/Descendant gonna be insane actually

[icy remnant]

We will see

[limpid shadow]

I feels so bad for Warfarin

[lime bear]

imagine Endfield Skadi is Skalter aesthetic

[limpid shadow]

that one gilberta voiceline 💀

[lime bear]

canon Skalter raaahh

[icy remnant]

M3 and Warfarin best buds when

[limpid shadow]

seaborn arc surely

[icy remnant]

Imagine if we just randomly see some sea creatures in Endfield

And we don’t know what it is and leave it vague

[bronze plume]

oh hell nah we dealt with them in AK and Limbus not again bro

i do not want to deal with elemental injury in ef

wait

[icy remnant]

You don’t simply deal with seaborn

[bronze plume]

Ardelia the hvit aska

[icy remnant]

[bronze plume]

ez

[limpid shadow]

imagine a major version concludes with an ominous voice

"...We Many"

[lime bear]

you already got burn combustion from the bull monster so

[icy remnant]

Seaborn has always been a side story iirc

[lime bear]

also next region is probably La Fantoma

[icy remnant]

It wouldn’t fit for main

[lime bear]

it has been teased with so many things and Martina Quest and all

[limpid shadow]

true, no major side story lines in funny 3d anime gacha 😔

[bronze plume]

weve been teased with a desert, a cold desert and hints to La Fantoma

which is a seaside city

please no more water for now wuling is enuf

[icy remnant]

Actually I disagree
I think Rossi might age pretty badly compared to Laev

Laev being AoE means she can actually handle AoE content

And we are getting CC now

Laev might be one of the dpses that age better, she has quite a few things going for her

Like how Surtr is relevant for so long simply off Res ignore

The pseudo immortality can also be huge depending if the tags to remove dodge immunity is a big deal

[dry kindle]

Laev also having res ignore

[icy remnant]

Res ignore is busted

Since it scales in value the harder the content is

90 res with 20 res ignore is a 200% increase in damage

Granted if it’s that high we will also be playing around w corrosion

[dry kindle]

Inb4 they say fuck you defence tags for cc

[icy remnant]

I wish they kept Surtrs true immortality

[proud vector]

“attacks inflict infliction”

[icy remnant]

But I understand it’s actually game breaking

[proud vector]

That’s all they need to give me massive fear

[dry kindle]

Just don't get hit

[icy remnant]

Until today Surtr is relevant and will always be relevant cus of the true immortality

[proud vector]

“disable dodge”

[bronze plume]

just use silence alter 4head

[proud vector]

I’m still annoyed at that stage

[inland quarry]

Ngl a stamina regen debuff like that one umbral monument stage would be cool

You can still dodge, but you can't mindlessly spam dodge

[bronze plume]

ill be very surprised if there isnt literally a disable dodge risk

[proud vector]

Yeah that one is goated

[bronze plume]

and then like a lesser version like the umbral stage

[proud vector]

After all this time

Ember goated?!? With Sauce?!

[inland quarry]

I will be disappointed by an outright ban on dodging, since that's a significant part of the combat sandbox

If ember is required I'm screwed

[bronze plume]

thats why they could make it

[icy remnant]

It’s a choosable risk

[inland quarry]

I'll have to use snowshine instead

[bronze plume]

does bro not know how cc works

[icy remnant]

It’s not a requirement but rather “if you use a defender you can choose this risk”

[inland quarry]

People will target max risk, so having outright unfun risks will suck

[thorn shore]

Is it really choosable if you want to max risk

[icy remnant]

You can’t choose every risk even in max risk

[bronze plume]

yes it is

[icy remnant]

You have to pick

[bronze plume]

max risk you literally cant choose all risks

[thorn shore]

What the frick

[icy remnant]

For example you choose this risk means you can’t choose another risk

[thorn shore]

So it’s fake max

[inland quarry]

How does max risk work then?

[icy remnant]

You get as high as you can get

The person who clears the highest is considered max risk

[bronze plume]

but theres a limit to how many risks you can actually take

[dry kindle]

Max risk is highest possible risk number

[bronze plume]

some risks are 'upgraded' versions of other risks as well

[icy remnant]

Also don’t be surprised if a defender is indeed required for max risk, or some units that aren’t even meta right now

[bronze plume]

^

[dry kindle]

I'm not leveling snowshine

[icy remnant]

Angelina/Gilberta here used to be considered trash
Then CC happened and suddenly they were top tier

[bronze plume]

cant wait for CC to come out and the youtube clickbait

"Was EMBER actually S+ TIER all along?!"

[spring vault]

lets put all risks in and now you cant even play bc every role is banned

[icy remnant]

[bronze plume]

well no

[drifting berry]

What was the 3rd stat for Fangyi bp weapon?

[bronze plume]

supp

[icy remnant]

Suppression

[drifting berry]

I though signature and bp weapon had different 3rd stat

Got it, ty

[sterile moat]

lmao the slow was so clutch suddenly

[icy remnant]

I wish I didn’t have Laev so I could justify pulling the Gilberta rerun

Needs to be 2 limited units you’re missing to be worth it

[bronze plume]

the bp weapon 3rd stat is efficacy

[knotty yoke]

They misinfoed you brother, it’s efficacy

[drifting berry]

Yeah I was already looking on google

[icy remnant]

I didn’t realise the info was out

[drifting berry]

xd

tyty

[bronze plume]

will, electric, efficacy

will, atk, supp

[bronze plume]

you only need 1 pull to get gilberta

[outer ermine]

surely cc has daily stages

[bronze plume]

only time will tell

[dry kindle]

[icy remnant]

Snowshine meta

I dont even have her leveled nor a weapon to give her if that happens

[normal tangle]

laev p1 is good anyway

[bronze plume]

id literally just fight through not using her

[icy remnant]

I don’t generally like dupes

But I’ll go take a look

[dry kindle]

Returned sp

Dies

[normal tangle]

1.2x on her highest dmg contrib

[icy remnant]

Does it even affect anything

lol

Laev can still Ult w 2 skills 2 combos?

[bronze plume]

returned sp can fuck rotations due to it not giving ult energy back

[normal tangle]

i'm pretty sure it boosts ult ebs too, since that's upgraded with battle skill mastery

[icy remnant]

I know but it shouldn’t affect Laevs rotation

[normal tangle]

it has the potential to but i don't think it actually fucks with anything

[bronze plume]

yes thx to the existence of having a vanguard on the team

fucks wit it if you aint using ult gain set

[normal tangle]

just some more comfort for free

why would you not be using ult gain set though

wulf dps?

[dry kindle]

It did fuck with wulf

But they added redeemer chest

So

[bronze plume]

because hot works offers more dmg in bursts

more reason to run hot works now as well since you start of with ult in bosses now

[normal tangle]

hot works wulf?

[bronze plume]

granted will just depend on what the stage(s) and risks look like in cc

[icy remnant]

-75% UGE tag

[bronze plume]

wouldnt be surprised if there was a -25% then a higher version of it

-25%, -75%, you get 0 ult regen lmao

[dry kindle]

Uge tags would just be

[bronze plume]

what if we have a remove gear tag

no gear no ults no stamina no bitches

you want that shiny trim medal dont you endmin?

[icy remnant]

Attack speed -50%
You attack in slow motion

[normal tangle]

no natural sp generation

[sterile moat]

a funny tag would be

off field op increased dmg taken

[peak root]

is there a tool that lets you put in a team and then fidget with the rots?

[rare zodiac]

Endaxis

[icy remnant]

Interesting they actually have a person actually go through all the feedbacks instead of having AI scan through it like usual companies do

I imagine whoever is reading it probably wants to commit seppuku though

[umbral galleon]

Time to astroturf 120 pulls per patch reddit feedback

[icy remnant]

A lot of disrespectful people

[sterile moat]

they did say they have over 1k people working on endfield

or was it 10k

[bronze plume]

id love to get paid to look at people being salty over a videogame wym

[icy remnant]

Maybe the first 100

Or 1000

[peak root]

thnx

[thorn shore]

Time to go purposefully mislabel endfields issues to make the feedback reader have a psychotic break

[normal tangle]

i promise it's not as fun as it sounds

it gets so tiring so quickly

[main nova]

what kind of wizardy is that

[main nova]

a way to fix gacha economy

[icy remnant]

Honest opinion is that there’s nothing to fix

This is the only gacha game where f2ps have most of the limited units as well as their signatures and still complain because they can’t get every single signature for free while being given a great replacement via BP

I hope they all get taken out and go to NTE

[chilly bolt]

Wtf did they really just give you a selector at 120 pulls on the bait banner

[icy remnant]

It’s not a bait banner at all

It’s an actually good banner

[dry mason]

[icy remnant]

But only if you’re missing both limiteds ofc

[chilly bolt]

I mean it was a bait banner

Now it's not

[icy remnant]

I don’t know why people kept assuming there’s no selector at 120

[chilly bolt]

120 for a guaranteed past limited is crazy

[icy remnant]

And it’s not even that old too

They’re like 1 month ago

They’re current limiteds for all things considered

[warped idol]

because of JO

[icy remnant]

So you get to try 50/50 for a limited and then use the selector to get the other you didn’t get

In theory it’s even better than our normal banner

So if you skip every banner and wait for joint ops you can get better value

[chilly bolt]

No it's still bait

But a good one

[sterile moat]

wait you are right lmao

[main nova]

In an interview with GamesRadar+, Arknights: Endfield lead developer Ryan admitted that the game's gacha system has received criticism for being too complicated and confusing, even by gacha game standards.

Players have complained about:

too many currencies
unclear character rates and pity system
rotating banners that make pull progress hard to track

Ryan acknowledges different responses to gacha systems between Asian and Western audiences. "People can be critical about the gacha part of the game because they are not used to this monetization method," he says. "But in East Asia, players are more used to the gacha system."

Ryan says the team is trying to improve the system, including:

giving players more in-game currency
adding selection permits so players can quickly choose a character they want
adjusting the early game so players dont feel blocked by gacha
considering combining currencies to make the UI simpler and less confusing
using player surveys and in-game data to see if free players feel paywalled

Ryan also said they are:

monitoring whether f2p players can clear content
calculating how many pulls players can earn each version
trying to ensure most players can build strong teams without paying

Important note
A Hypergryph representative later clarified that these improvements are still under discussion, so no confirmed changes have been announced yet.

its already admitted

[sterile moat]

skipping all banners for joint op is like big brain play

[icy remnant]

^

It’s actually better than the normal banner

[main nova]

but well i accept any new battlepasses

more currency to pull at least

[icy remnant]

You skip every single banner and then wait for joint ops to give you 2 limiteds at a time and pull on them and then guarantee the other

[main nova]

cough weapon banner suck

[chilly bolt]

I wouldn't say it's better, you still need to hit the 50/50 (or 2/4 chance to be exact)

Literally like normal limited banner

[icy remnant]

You compare it directly

When you hit the 50/50 for normal your 120 pity is gone

Even if you’re at 110

Here you get a selector

[chilly bolt]

In the case of 120 pulls yeah it might be better

[icy remnant]

You can pick whoever you didn’t get or even the potential you want

[icy remnant]

You always assume 120 when going for any banner including this

You need to have 120 on hand to even start pulling

[chilly bolt]

Idk i got gil tt rossi before 120

[sterile moat]

yea but this is so efficient when it comes to 120 gamble

[chilly bolt]

[sterile moat]

less rng needed in terms of collection

[main nova]

no complaint about the game. only the gacha, so if they can somehow make me pay and not feel bad about it then its fine

[icy remnant]

This is exactly the point
Say now you got Gil at 80 or whatever
Now you’re only 40 pulls away for another guaranteed limited

Meanwhile normal banner ur done

If you’re missing both limiteds it’s insane value

[chilly bolt]

And i have 40 pulls saved

[icy remnant]

It’s straight up a better banner than normal banner

[lucid vine]

Zhuang BETA is online on https://endfield.metriclabs.net/
Welcome to test the rotation.

[icy remnant]

That’s why I said assuming you want both limiteds

It can easily be Gil/TangTang here or whatever future 2 limiteds you want

This banner system is just better than the normal one is all I’m saying

And if you are the kind who wants every limited

The best thing for you to do is to skip every banner

[main nova]

feeling pain after buying the battlepasses is the worst experience ive been through, first FGO then Homa Staff then this game

[icy remnant]

And wait for rerun

[main nova]

tho in fgo case is real curreny

[icy remnant]

But yea I don’t know what I feel about making the rerun banner actually better than the normal banner

In terms of pull efficiency

Usually you’re supposed to make the normal banner better

[sterile moat]

technically normal banner is better if you only want to max that 1 op

[icy remnant]

Yea if you only want the 1 op and hyper focus normal is better

But AK doesn’t really have that much to go for potentials

[chilly bolt]

Hmm ok it definitely has better value, tho the cost is you have to wait 2-3 months if you can wait that long then sure

[icy remnant]

Isn’t it just 1 month

Since Laev and Gil

[chilly bolt]

Game released jan 22th

For laev it's 2-3 months

[sterile moat]

Actually it might be better to split for p5

[icy remnant]

Man I’m growing old way too fast

[sterile moat]

240 on normal then 240 on joint op

If you wanna max it efficiently

[icy remnant]

But yea this is probably the new meta if you want to min max pulls

[chilly bolt]

I dont think 240 on joint is good

[icy remnant]

Just skip normal banner and roll JO

[chilly bolt]

It's random

A random token of the 4

[icy remnant]

The selector is only once?

[chilly bolt]

120 is selector yes, but 240 is a random token

[sterile moat]

No

Its also selector

[icy remnant]

That’s broken

[chilly bolt]

What

[icy remnant]

New whale meta

Is to spam JO

F2P meta is also spam JO

[chilly bolt]

I remember reading it's just a random token

[icy remnant]

I read that a lot here about the 120 until it was actually confirmed to be a selector

[sterile moat]

Choose

[icy remnant]

People kept doomposting for no reason

I hate that about Endfield community

[sterile moat]

Both 120 and 240 allows selection which is why i was so willing to whale this banner

[chilly bolt]

Wtf ok holy bait banner

[sterile moat]

You go 240 on both normal and jo banner for pull efficiency

[icy remnant]

This bait is so high quality I might skip Fangyi to pull on her Joint ops

[sterile moat]

For p5

[icy remnant]

[chilly bolt]

Fangyi is low quality bait banner

[sterile moat]

But thats only assuming that the jo banner reruns is always goes in order

For the ops

[icy remnant]

Laev Gil
TangTang Yvonne
Rossi Fangyi

Theoretical pairings for joint ops

Getting both Rossi and Fangyi

[real mist]

fangyi is bait for my mifu

[icy remnant]

Would be huge

In JO

And then I assume Mifu and then the Sankta Hot man

Bruh I want all of em

Aight time to save for Joint ops

[sterile moat]

Theorycrafting new pull meta

[real mist]

I kinda regretted getting laev for AoE and then just use tangtang like 99% of the time (I haven't even used laev cause I haven't finished building her yet)

[icy remnant]

The downside is that this pull system is so efficient you won’t have enough to get enough Arsenal tickets for everyone

Because it changes your average pull per limited 6 star from 81 to like 65-70ish

Need to math it

[sterile moat]

Yea ngl tangtang is so op for aoe and more efficient

[icy remnant]

But hey I’d take more operators

[chilly bolt]

so if we get joint banner every 3 months it's actually gonna become the limited banners of endfield

[icy remnant]

I’m sad now that I already have Laev

[sterile moat]

Time to math it and put it on reddit to counter doom posting or keep the strat a secret

[chilly bolt]

Only pull on joint

Real

[icy remnant]

If I didn’t have Laev

I would be able to roll on Gilberta right now

Aaaaa

[chilly bolt]

Still funny if you lose 50/50 to one of the 2 standard units

[icy remnant]

That’s every banner

[chilly bolt]

Nah you still can spook limited for debut banner

[icy remnant]

I guess

Hard to rely on that and if you even want that

[chilly bolt]

But i guess it's too small to rely on it ye

[icy remnant]

Getting dupes of perma is better in a sense since limited dupes don’t give that much power

[sterile moat]

But the only problem is that for 240, you must own the op to get the token

Unless you unlucky enough to fail the 50/50 to none of the limiteds

[icy remnant]

If you have perma dupes eventually they become the shop thing

[sterile moat]

For all 240 pulls

[icy remnant]

And you can buy standard weapons

So in theory you want JO to give you standard dupes of units you already have

Instead of a random dupe of Laev or whatever

That you might not feel

[chilly bolt]

Idk how math works but is it really 50/50 or something like you gamble the 1/4 twice

[icy remnant]

1/4 for every single of the 4 units

[sterile moat]

Its 50/50 because you can selector the other limited

[icy remnant]

So effectively 50/50 for a limited and 50/50 for a standard

[chilly bolt]

[icy remnant]

And then you use selector for a limited you didn’t hit

If you hit the standard then you can still selector the limited you want more

[sterile moat]

I wonder if they will ever add old sigs to aic shop

[icy remnant]

I assume they just eventually rerun side by side

For the most part

Like you know how AK has like 4 banners right now

Maybe we eventually just have permanently 2 banners 1 JO 1 normal

[sterile moat]

Most likely

[chilly bolt]

Kernel banner moment

[icy remnant]

The fun popcorn part is gonna be the people that keep complaining JO is a bait banner even after the selector news

[sour gazelle]

they did say it's a special banner for a specific circumstance, so maybe not

aka so many ppl complaining not having gil

[icy remnant]

They didn’t say it’s a specific circumstance

They just said it’s a special banner

Source; am Chinese

[chilly bolt]

I wonder if it's still good if i already have 1 of the 2 limited there

[compact bridge]

How many pulls needed for the selector?

[icy remnant]

120

[sterile moat]

Depends if you want their dupes

[sour gazelle]

they did say it

source: am Chinese too

[compact bridge]

That mean its basically the same as a rerun banner

[icy remnant]

But better

[sour gazelle]

but worse

[icy remnant]

It really depends how you interpret it

[icy remnant]

Nah it’s not worse assuming you want both limiteds

[sour gazelle]

u only have 25% chance of getting who u want early

[icy remnant]

It’s way better in pull efficiency

If you only want 1 obviously you don’t pull

Unless you’re desperate then beggars can’t be choosers

[sour gazelle]

99% of the ppl pulling in this would be those that skipped gil

[icy remnant]

If you want both limiteds it’s way better in pull efficiency than pulling on the normal banner

So the current meta is to skip every normal banner and only pull JO

[sour gazelle]

I think it's pretty clear on what it means

[compact bridge]

I assume no dossier or emergency pulls in that banner?

[sour gazelle]

source: have lived in China for 20+ years

[icy remnant]

It just means it’s a special arrangement?
Well we will see
It’s likely they are looking at the stats too

And if it goes well this might be the normal rerun

[icy remnant]

There are emergency pulls
Dossier goes to standard banner

[chilly bolt]

Oh right what about the 60 pulls reward

[icy remnant]

Standard banner

[chilly bolt]

ok welp

Kinda acceptable i guess

[sterile moat]

I only need 3 laev and 4 gilberta

[icy remnant]

I mean yea
Dossier really only has value if you’re going for the next banner

Give and take ig

[sour gazelle]

[compact bridge]

Dossier is for people who like to gamble

For loser dossier is just a way to build their pity

[icy remnant]

There’s still nothing that suggests this is a special circumstance

All it says is this is a special banner with its own rules

This can very well be the way they rerun things

They didn’t confirm it ofc
But theyre probably gonna base it on stats

If it’s received well they can continue it etc

Maybe we need to spread the word that it’s good after getting the math out so people aren’t under the impression that it’s a scam

[compact bridge]

They will continue this banner 100%

[icy remnant]

So this actually turns into a rerun with better pull efficiency

[chilly bolt]

It's a nice little bonus, i would go for it if you are at 50 pulls and also planning to pull next banner

[sterile moat]

We can always wait and see what jo2 brings

[compact bridge]

Since they have similiar banner in arknights

[icy remnant]

Thing is with the way HG does things

If there’s a backlash they just won’t bring jo2

Just need to hope people actually digest the math instead of going wtf 4 op scam

[compact bridge]

If they only release one new banner per patch, i would spend 60 pulls on every new limited banner for sure

[icy remnant]

I assume it’s 2/2/1

With the 1 meant for reruns

Well not assume, speculate

[sour gazelle]

I don't think it is good tho
yes u have a chance of getting more than regular banners if u hit early and if u win the 50/50, but then ur getting standard multi at 60 instead of next limited banner multi which is significantly less value

[compact bridge]

Cant say that for sure

[icy remnant]

No math it out slower

[compact bridge]

One thing that can stop me from pulling until dossier on every banner is the free pull income

[sour gazelle]

and that's only if u want both the chars equally

[icy remnant]

Normally when you hit the 50/50 on normal banner that’s it.
So average pull per limited unit is just that at 81
The 120 only exists as a pity

For JO if you want both limiteds. If you hit 2/4= 50/50, you get to pity whichever you didn’t get at 120

The worst is when you hit the unit at 110

And waste your pity

[compact bridge]

It is definitely worse, but its not significantly worse either

[icy remnant]

It brings the average pull per target limited down

Cus you are abusing the 120 as a selector instead of a pity

[sour gazelle]

I'm not saying it's worse, it might even be marginally better

I'm saying it's not really good

[icy remnant]

It’s better if you want both limiteds it doesn’t have to be equally

At 120 you can pity the one you wanted more if you missed em

[chilly bolt]

Might need yo save 240 pulls just to be safe

Oh wait nvm 240 is just token

So ye still a gamble

[sour gazelle]

also u'll need to pull one single at a time if u don't plan on going 120 once u hit whoever u want

cuz no pity share with other banners

[icy remnant]

Yea if you must have both you need the base unit to be safe
But I assume if you must have both then you’re a whale

[compact bridge]

Not really at normal banner you could get 10 or 20 free pulls ticket, i assume this joint banner got no free tickets for us

[sour gazelle]

there is 10 free as usual

[icy remnant]

You get the 10 or 20 regardless

[sour gazelle]

no 20 tho

[compact bridge]

20 is from dossier, so no

[icy remnant]

Dossier is assuming you pull every single banner I guess

[chilly bolt]

There's 10 free?

[icy remnant]

That’s abit too thick for me

[echo cove]

10 dosier
5 login
5 from the shop

[icy remnant]

It’s way easier to roll every JO than every banner

[compact bridge]

Wrong, dossier is assuming you pull previous banner lol

[icy remnant]

That’s basically what I said?

[echo cove]

i used to abuse this anw

[sterile moat]

Also gives you some leeway of hindsight

[icy remnant]

You need 2 consecutive banners you want

[icy remnant]

Yea you can roll for the units only after they are confirmed good

[compact bridge]

Every single banner is different from previous banner

[icy remnant]

If your strategy is to hope the next banner is something you want it’s kind of hard to plan around and put a value on

Esp long term

[echo cove]

it works if ur strat is just... pull every banner cos idgaf enuf to pity

[sour gazelle]

I only decide if I go 60 once I see the next banner tho

so it's valid

[compact bridge]

Also you have 50% chance to lose in joint banner, so only one limited for you

[echo cove]

but this, yeah

[icy remnant]

Yea worst case it’s just the normal banner

[sour gazelle]

I got rossi from going 60 after I saw zhuang banner

[compact bridge]

The same logic also applied to joint, we never know if the next joint pairing is something that you want

[gritty olive]

Im gonna get gilbeta

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-grope-gif-14200454459511844900

[sour gazelle]

this too, u could wait ages for who u want and atp why play a gacha

[peak root]

okay so this tool is new to me so i am using it incorrectly, this is my actual rotation, i havent tried any actual theory crafting with it yet, but id like some help tightening this if possible

[icy remnant]

That’s why I said the “meta” for highest pull efficiency is to skip every banner so you don’t have every limited
So everytime you pull a JO it’s double dipping
Gonna be hard in practice of course

Since people will naturally want to pull right away for a unit they want

Instead of building pull efficiency

[compact bridge]

Highest pull efficiency is just pull for the dossier obviously

[icy remnant]

I can’t afford your pull efficiency

[sour gazelle]

u could tho, if u never go 120

[icy remnant]

Then that’s just a bad strat xd

I know that’s a meme but just had to type that out

[gritty olive]

Isnt the meta 60 75

[tight haven]

thank you andira

[compact bridge]

If you want both unit, your guarantee to get both unit is 240 pulls tho

[bronze plume]

tbf thats normal

[tight haven]

im still convinced that theres no reason to be pulling on banners you dont want to assuming your goal is just to get as many operators that you like as possible

[sour gazelle]

going for reruns also has the disadvantage of, if u really want both, but got unlucky and didn't hit before 120, then u never have a chance to guarantee the other again until another rerun in the distant future

[echo cove]

tbh that's kinda arguable

[compact bridge]

Oh so we dont even have a guarantee to get both unit

[icy remnant]

The 240 is the token thing

[echo cove]

it is a bad strat if u alr have all the charas in the game, but early on, it can arguably be pretty ok

[sour gazelle]

it's like all other banners, only one guarantee

[icy remnant]

You should stop at 120

Unless you’re a whale

[gritty olive]

Valid strat for just maximum amount of pulls

[icy remnant]

If you must have both units then I guess you’re a whale

Then optimal Strat is to roll 1 copy of each in normal banner

And then roll for dupes in JO

[echo cove]

i got all my 5* p5 with that strat LMFAO

[sour gazelle]

that would be great if dupes in this game aren't so meaningless

[peak root]

any1? or should i ask in team build?

[echo cove]

am just trying to maybe get that 15 p5 achievement

[vapid flame]

I don't think any f2p values all characters equally though

[gritty olive]

Thats why i say maximization of (aquirable pulls)

Since youre gonna get more weapon banner pulls

[vapid flame]

yeah I might have to pull on JO for this alone lol

[gritty olive]

For the price of 45 pulls per bammer youre going to get 70 worth of pulls each succeeding banner

[tight haven]

remove arclight

[compact bridge]

Yeah, pulling for dossier on every banner doesnt guarantee you anything, but its the most pulls you can get for sure

[tight haven]

she is not doing anything in that team

[chilly bolt]

It's 40 pulls for 70 pulls isn't it

[bronze plume]

is laev and gilberta banner only rerunning for the time of the JO banner?

[tight haven]

actually wait i should ask

[gritty olive]

I mightbe been incorrect. It should be 40 for 70 yea

[icy remnant]

It’s possible

[tight haven]

which ops do you own/have you raised

[icy remnant]

No confirmation and likely won’t get confirmation

[peak root]

she deals like 150k of the total damage wdym

[icy remnant]

They might be looking at stats to see if the JO is a viable way to rerun

[gritty olive]

Im gonna play limbus company for now

Ill continue rossi later

[tight haven]

this is gonna sound really mean but i want you to know im being like

honest

and not trying to be an asshole

but that team does look really really bad

[peak root]

the team is ass

i agree but its fun for me so i like it and i want to theory max it

[tight haven]

if perlica isnt dealing the overwhelming majority of the damage in that team then something has gone wrong

she should be the main dps

[peak root]

endmin deals half perl and arc deal 1/4

[tight haven]

arclight should be replaced by akekuri or something

[gritty olive]

Currently we have this by raizer

[tight haven]

if you feel you would like a vg

[gritty olive]

This is 00

[tight haven]

arclight really really is not providing you with any value

[gritty olive]

Pure rossi dps

[tight haven]

unless youre running her for overworld to clean up mobs

another optimisation would be antal > endmin

the team then would just be perlica hypercarry

[dry kindle]

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=46553839

Bleh

[echo cove]

do we have any build on that? am interested

[tight haven]

buff up her ult as much as possible because it has a very high multiplier

[echo cove]

and is it on par w avy?

[tight haven]

its really nothing special, you just abuse the fact that she has a 1000% ult multiplier

[tight haven]

definitely not but perlica's already a subdps in an avy team

[echo cove]

aw man...

[icy remnant]

Crazy that Perlica does so much damage while just sitting there spamming combo skills into Ult

[echo cove]

how much weaker is it than avy?

[tight haven]

not meaningfully so

honestly

[peak root]

this is my other setup arc avy gil perl but that one just doesnt work at all rn

[tight haven]

you really gotta dump arclight

shes just not good

[echo cove]

oh, so it's actually interestingly good

obliv perlica rite?

[tight haven]

yeah it will clear stuff

[tight haven]

yes

[echo cove]

gimme the team comp

[tight haven]

stanza if shes supporting avy, otherwise you always use oblivion

[echo cove]

imma try it out when i have sum resources lyin around

[echo cove]

perlica mdps i mean

[teal pawn]

Monkeygate mentioned

[tight haven]

perli ake gilb antal

[peak root]

i dont have it yet

[main nova]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[tight haven]

for perl hyper

[echo cove]

hyper perlica, whatever u call it

[teal pawn]

Hopefully we won't go back to pre Monkeygate era with this rerun system

[echo cove]

gotcha, so i just have to build 2 more units

[peak root]

crazy team antal doubles stuff

[tight haven]

antal is just him unfortunately

[peak root]

perly goes brrrrrrrrt

[echo cove]

perli obliv
ake thermite
gil sig or stanza?
antal deto?

[tight haven]

it APPEARS that fangyi has a built-in amp

so hes kicked off of her team... maybe

[icy remnant]

What’s that

[echo cove]

this right or am i missin anythin?

[main nova]

i meant... its not gonna farfetched to saying the endfield gacha feels like casino

[teal pawn]

Is this specifically with Gilbertaless is mind

[main nova]

instead 777 you pull apple

[icy remnant]

I mean the guarantee at 120 being such a huge part of the pull system means it’s more like buying a unit to me

[tight haven]

gilb sig p0 is about as good as stanza p4

[icy remnant]

I just see if I can buy them (120 pulls) and then decide if I want to pull

[echo cove]

actually, do u have any vid or like sheet for the full build?

[tight haven]

p5 stanza should be a bit better

[tight haven]

i do not play this team

[echo cove]

got it, i'll do stanza

[tight haven]

im giving you info off of intuition

the team should just work

set up perl for one big nuke

a lot of teams do this already but replace some units like xaihi > antal and lr > perl

[teal pawn]

The precursor to the Tectone Homa incident

[echo cove]

imma look around for the build i guess

[teal pawn]

It's before GBF added the spark system

[icy remnant]

Huh?? Did you not read how the JO banner works

[main nova]

this is the monke btw

[teal pawn]

Which one are we talking about

[icy remnant]

It has a selector at 120, it has an even better pull system than normal banners in terms of target limited pull efficiency if you want both

[tight haven]

the rerun banner

[main nova]

[tight haven]

its called jo because it was called joint ops in og ak

really unfortunate abbreviation

[teal pawn]

Ah

[gritty olive]

My baseline is always 1 cost( the unit itself with bp weap)

[teal pawn]

I mean, if it works like that then sure

[compact bridge]

Its a gacha without pity

[tight haven]

the joint ops banner is fine

[icy remnant]

I played FGO as my first gacha

[tight haven]

you get a selector at 120

[teal pawn]

No info rn tho so I'm just hoping

[main nova]

pure Pain and Suffering

[tight haven]

grab laev shes still fucking broken

[gritty olive]

I always get 0+0 so i always start with sig weapom

[tight haven]

ez

[icy remnant]

The info is out

[gritty olive]

Ok 5+5 haver

[teal pawn]

Wait really?

[icy remnant]

Yes

[tight haven]

we just got info

[teal pawn]

Ooooh

[icy remnant]

It’s an even better system than the normal banner assuming you want both limiteds

[tight haven]

still my only 5+5 btw

[icy remnant]

Since if you win the 50/50 on 1 you can pity the other

[compact bridge]

I heard people who did gacha on that monkey got their money refunded lol

[tight haven]

weapon banner hates my ass

[gritty olive]

I dont want laev dupes

So i hope i get poggy

[icy remnant]

Yes if you already want 1 of the units it gets iffy

But beggars can’t be choosers

[bronze plume]

to waste pulls for a 25% chance of ardelia dupes that is the question

[outer ermine]

enion too whel smh sponsor

[gritty olive]

Its fine

[bronze plume]

@fresh trench are you going to do 120 on the JO banner for the ardelia

[gritty olive]

Expected chance of 6* in 120 pulls is like around 1.5

[dry kindle]

L

[icy remnant]

Yea but not better than normal banner xd

[teal pawn]

Ok maybe we're good then

[gritty olive]

Hey beggars cant be choosers

[icy remnant]

I’m just hyped cus this means I can skip Fangyi and then roll both Rossi and Fangyi at the same time

[gritty olive]

Im gonna make up for ajimu angelina

[main nova]

its to the point where government has to take over because its almost fall into scamming category so many company has to follow the rule these days

[gritty olive]

[icy remnant]

I want to admit that I never got Angelina

[gritty olive]

Longer gif

[icy remnant]

Or Bagpipe

[tight haven]

gbf's gacha is still absolute dogwater regardless

[gritty olive]

Angelina isnt in recruit
So is eyjafjalla

[compact bridge]

Now thats what we called "cope"

[icy remnant]

I hope they continue this system of reruns and go in order

[teal pawn]

It does make my plan to P2 Ange a bit harder because that's basically 240 pulls

[tight haven]

yvonne tangtang rossi banner:

[gritty olive]

Anyways byebye now

I have a lot to complete

Endfield
Limbus
Genshin
Arknights

[icy remnant]

Laev Gil
Yvonne TangTang
Rossi Fangyi
Thats the order I think will happen

[gritty olive]

While still grinding is5 runs for 20 relics d18 ed245

[bronze plume]

itll props be
yvonne tangtang 2 standard then
rossi fangyi 2 standard

[tight haven]

it would be very funny if it wasnt that though

[gritty olive]

Endfield will not add 5 stars

[bronze plume]

agreed

[icy remnant]

I can’t handle it I’m getting destroyed in all the IS
IS2 was so easy since I can start with my E2 Ling

[tight haven]

so you just have the queen of frauds shitting up the pool

[bronze plume]

this will be so ass

[tight haven]

(yvonne)

[icy remnant]

I don’t have enough units for IS

I got hard carried by Ling

[tight haven]

is6 is like

[teal pawn]

Yvonne rerun with Last Rite

[tight haven]

for babies who shit in their diapers

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

once you get raidian

[teal pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-gif-8293915206003753096

[icy remnant]

Oh wow I can see the ice banner being stacked

[dry kindle]

Wasn't that 5

[tight haven]

yes but 6 is even easier

you have to try so fucking hard

to lose in is6

[dry kindle]

[tight haven]

with any squad

[teal pawn]

And Tangtang too

[icy remnant]

Yvonne TangTang Last Rite… LiFeng

[dry kindle]

I mean I can just not play it

[gritty olive]

Raidian is made because no one uses shalem, highmore, valarqin, and tinman

[compact bridge]

The joint banner in arknights is random tho

[gritty olive]

Now they made her exteremely important for an easier time

[tight haven]

theres like 3 separate squads that can somewhat reliably infinitely loop for literally every collectible in the game

[compact bridge]

Even chinese and global have different joint banner i think

[teal pawn]

Well we seem to be following an order

for now

[gritty olive]

Anyways byebyenow

[icy remnant]

Does anyone here have an E2 lvl90 Raidian

[tight haven]

is6 is really fun though i wont lie

[gritty olive]

Me

[tight haven]

even if it gets old quickly

[icy remnant]

Send me your code pls
I’ll add after work

You’ll get friend credits everyday

[gritty olive]

Jlcm10000#6907

[icy remnant]

From me spamming is6

[tight haven]

im finding myself doing a run when im bored bc i know i wont lose at all and i just want the high of snowballing

its like a mirror dungeon

[vapid flame]

they upped friend limit, so plenty of slots

[icy remnant]

Imma add now, Carmina here

[compact bridge]

Its a forced choice, since rossi and tangtang banner is very recent and yvonne got featured on 5 banner already

[bronze plume]

whys bro plugging the discord

[outer ermine]

7-25 rip

[gritty olive]

Hm?

[icy remnant]

Added

I didn’t realise I had this game for 6 years

I left for 4 years tho

[tight haven]

dw my acc is even more bricked

[gritty olive]

389 units

[icy remnant]

Never gonna catch up

[tight haven]

1-11-11

its over.

[icy remnant]

It’s taking me forever to even finish past events
But I’m taking my time

Probably enough content to play for like

4 more years

[outer ermine]

havent been logging in

[icy remnant]

Wow everyone’s lvl120

Am I a filthy casual

[tight haven]

lv78???

[icy remnant]

Yea

[tight haven]

okay that is a bit crazy

[outer ermine]

6years wtf

[bronze plume]

tbf im not lvl 120

well on 1 of my accounts im not

[icy remnant]

I quit for 4 years and reinstalled after I saw M3 in Endfield

I spammed my saved rolls on Ling and Texas Alters banner

I somehow got Specter Alter I think I rolled her cus she’s pretty

[tight haven]

spalter...

[icy remnant]

Back in the day she was pretty okay

[tight haven]

thank god that dollmaker delta module is coming out soon right guys

[gritty olive]

Imagine we get bena

[icy remnant]

Now I think no one is using her

[tight haven]

it'll save spalter

haha

[compact bridge]

Tbh lv 78 is a beginner in arknights

[gritty olive]

Myrtle and saileach conundrum

[icy remnant]

I admit I got hard carried by Ling

Ling cleared all the content for me

[gritty olive]

But its specter vs specter alter

[bronze plume]

what newer player didnt

[icy remnant]

So I didn’t need to level that much

My own Ling lmao

I raised 1 Ling and suddenly I’m clearing risk 25 or smth

[bronze plume]

i have like a lvl 43 account

[tight haven]

im trying to p6 my saileach

[gritty olive]

Just wait for wang atp

[bronze plume]

that literally just has a E2 lvl 90 ling

[tight haven]

just to avoid another dos situation

[bronze plume]

what does wang do even

[tight haven]

i was actually getting gatekept from full clearing dos

[gritty olive]

Dorothy on steroids

Arts wisadel

[tight haven]

because i didnt have fucking saileach

[bronze plume]

seems legit

[icy remnant]

I don’t know if I want to roll for Silverash Alter

Pramanix looks strong

[gritty olive]

Imagine dorothy traps

You place trap then suddenly 4 more traps appear and explode

2 cost mines

[icy remnant]

I don’t have Logos

[tight haven]

and he also has ammo synergy

for some ungodly reason

[gritty olive]

TWO
FUCKING
DP
FOR
20K
DAMAGE

[bronze plume]

making exualter better

[compact bridge]

Dont worry i have him at max pot and he still at e0 lvl 1

[icy remnant]

Oh yea I can’t believe Chen Alter is still so strong but everyone is saying she’s trash now cus of Wisadel

[tight haven]

sash2 is a must-get for me

enables too much funny stuff

[vapid flame]

this is like visiting a time traveler

[gritty olive]

32 dp cost fraud with no good offskill dps

[icy remnant]

Chen Alter module 2

Is 23 dp

[gritty olive]

Still no offskill dps

[icy remnant]

I guess

[tight haven]

yeah the problem with chalter1 is her goddamn dp cost is ridiculous and she just sits there pissing in the soil if shes off-skill

[icy remnant]

I thought the point of Thorns and Mountain and Ptilopsis was to buy time for Chen

[tight haven]

wisadel existing is a second-order problem

[icy remnant]

Her being only useful on skill is true

[bronze plume]

these are mine

[icy remnant]

But she’s still ridiculously strong imo
But I say this as someone who doesn’t have all the new units

Im gonna buy M3 soon though

I returned for her after all

[compact bridge]

Chen alter got her own time tho, she is the best for a long time

[smoky quarry]

I thought these are steam profiles for a second

[edgy crater]

chelter can be used for wisadel

chelter talent

[gritty olive]

Chalter has a semi long 55 sp cost skill with 16 shots

Its quite hard for single target

[smoky quarry]

are we theorycrafting og arknights units now?

[gritty olive]

And awkward reverse pyramid range

[vapid flame]

no mods, we can do whatever

[bronze plume]

what else we finna do type shit

[gritty olive]

Chen alters only worth is during cc#6 on wild scales

Mudrock kafka stall tech

[icy remnant]

The way I play right now is using Chen Alter Thorns Mountain and Skalter for defense
And helidrop Texas Surtr and Silverash

[gritty olive]

until you run out of dp

[icy remnant]

I guess if you have Logos that basically does what Chen Alter does for me but better

[smoky quarry]

i thought you would be drooling to fangyi for three weeks straight

[compact bridge]

This is fun too, we have a lot ammo char now to build an ammo team

[icy remnant]

Logos looks broken

[gritty olive]

https://youtu.be/t0r6LBgshC0

[edgy crater]

well yeah, 10 ammo on sadel s3

[tight haven]

logos IS broken

[gritty olive]

The last time ash and chalter are used for max risk

[tight haven]

still hasnt faced much competition really

[gritty olive]

Chalter got used for cc12 but it was an “offmeta” pick tbf

[tight haven]

all three of his skills are pretty relevant in different contexts

[icy remnant]

Too bad he has no banner at all

[tight haven]

yeah he did rerun on joint ops uhhh

god was it two months ago

[bronze plume]

i did that

[icy remnant]

Arknights men are also all so likeable

[icy remnant]

Can also see in Endfield with Pog and that Sankta

[compact bridge]

Now thats interesting, i dont even know what his s2 do

[edgy crater]

logos is always good pull

[gritty olive]

Single target burst

[edgy crater]

anti his own mother lol

[gritty olive]

Mid

[icy remnant]

This is the first furry that I’ve seen people actually like

People actually like mountain and I do too

[gritty olive]

Theres also lee

[tight haven]

his s2 is really good, just much more niche than s1 and s3 due to being only good for bursting down bosses/elites

[fresh trench]

I think i will just do the usual i usually just pull until i get free 10 pull for next banner cause thats meant more 6 stars for id over all

[vapid flame]

niche use with res

[gritty olive]

Bro already has some res ignore

[icy remnant]

But yea Arknights designs men very well

[gritty olive]

Just use s3 atp

[tight haven]

also yeah it turns him into a res tank

[bronze plume]

ok but 120 guarantees her smh

[tight haven]

if you care about that

[icy remnant]

God I wish Thorns came to Endfield but he won’t

[gritty olive]

Elysium is infected

[fresh trench]

Im brokie i cant and mifu is there 😭

[vapid flame]

i used logos s2 on the priestess robot iirc

[icy remnant]

What does that have anything to do with Thorns

[fresh trench]

Mifu is coming soon

[bronze plume]

hopefully in ef they actually release them cuz its like a 1;9 ratio for the limited so far

[gritty olive]

His mate is at least infected and hell habe hazy memories of a very close friend

[tight haven]

vampire dude looks so fucking hot

[icy remnant]

Counting limiteds only is bad faith imo
Pog is top quality man

[tight haven]

i cant wait to pull for him in 1.3 1.4 1.5

[edgy crater]

enthe/midnight friend (?)

[icy remnant]

The standard banner females I don’t really care for

Pog tho

[compact bridge]

Thats very normal tho, what game has the best male ratio ?

[gritty olive]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/images/Duq'arael.png?7f1360

[vapid flame]

LADS

[bronze plume]

that one female focused hoyo game

[gritty olive]

LADS with 1:0

[gritty olive]

Tears of thermis?

[compact bridge]

Tears of themis lol

[tight haven]

LADS is an otome

[edgy crater]

not dat asshole

[tight haven]

that doesnt count

[bronze plume]

im just saying the sankta dude also has the crown

[tight haven]

ToT is also an otome

[bronze plume]

idfk

[icy remnant]

If I liked Men I would be stuck to Arknights forever btw

Their men are all insane

[gritty olive]

Btw in is5

[bronze plume]

i want it to be 1:5 at the worst tbh

[gritty olive]

I start with base silverash

[tight haven]

its like, true, but also its like going "GIRLS frontline has the highest women to men ratio"

[gritty olive]

The strat i employ use four 6* male guards

[tight haven]

its kinda in the name???

[icy remnant]

Yo that’s my is2 Strat

Before Ling came

Then it just became use Ling

[edgy crater]

chelter jaye

[icy remnant]

I’m leveling Chen Alters module right now

Making everywhere water is wild

Leveling the girl with the doll first

For the base skill

I forgot her name

The one that does -50% def and atk

[tight haven]

shamare

[bronze plume]

shamare

[gritty olive]

Shamare

[tight haven]

my goat

[gritty olive]

[edgy crater]

precharge the doll lol

[icy remnant]

Shamare into Chen Alter
But yea since I cleared all the way through Chapter 16 without using guides with a 4 year old account without modules I guess it really speaks to AK being well designed

[outer ermine]

good times w exubuff army

[gritty olive]

Bro is doing bibeak tequila shamare

[icy remnant]

It wasn’t easy ofc but I love that it was doable

[tight haven]

kafka tequila shamare*

[gritty olive]

Just to get beaten by tachanka buff army

[edgy crater]

dats e2 kafka needed

[bronze plume]

i should check if my tachanka is M6

[tight haven]

wdym you dont have an e2 kafka

[edgy crater]

[gritty olive]

Makes her worse

[icy remnant]

New Strat is to use Silverash and that Abyssal hunter Crusher uh

[edgy crater]

i dont have e2 kafka

[gritty olive]

Mine is p6 since forever